A quick word on Monstera Epipremnoides to avoid some of the confusion: it is also a super rare plant and will not accidentally be sold in shops. Mick Mittermeier himself has had some trouble sourcing these kinds of plants. I apologise if I've made people think they might have Epipremnoides- it cannot be found in shops! You have Adansonii I promise! Lol 😂😅
Hi Kaylee! First of all, I love your videos, especially your rare plant indexes, hauls and just your general aura! You make amazing videos basically! Now, I am so confused between the three forms - of course, I clearly see the differences when you show them in this video, however all adansoniis are very different I find. On the Swedish bidding market place "Tradera", a lot of people are selling them :) Can you make a more in depth video on how to differentiate the three forms, with more different plants of the same form or something? Good work!
My grandfather was a rare plant collector and he had an obliqua and it was his pride and joy it only had two small leaves but when he died he requested my step nan to have it be donated to kew gardens and they now have it in a private archived collection in his name
The obliqua is cool because of its rarity - but if it wasn't so rare and someone offered me the choice between it and adansonii, I'd take the adansonii. I like to see my plants grow new leaves, etc. I don't think I'd like just having runners grow from my plant. I guess if I owned it I would keep it in a vivarium then with humidity and artificial light. For me I'm happy with adansonii- but cool to know! I hope people don't destroy these delicate plants by harvesting too many from the wild
Nevertheless, it is a fast proliferator rather than a fast grower. You can let the new plants cover the ground instead of climbing. That is, if you have the suitable conditions.
the sad thing to me is that so many people want it because of the IG hype, those people probably aren't even real plant collectors, they are only interested in 'rare plants from IG for IG'
I think we need to appreciate the amount of research Kaylee Ellen has put in making this video, as well as her effort in getting these plants to show us the difference!
Kaylee Ellen Definitely 😂 Sadly, many plants get mislabeled - I even saw m. deliciosa labeled as a ficus?! And where I live many people still think of m. deliciosa as a philodendron. :/ Then they think I am crazy when I tell them they are calling it wrong 😒
Kaylee! Freaking love you for making this video. I can say that I´m new and have never heard about the Obliqua. But this video is SO WELL DONE! The editing is so freaking good that I got goosebumps. I love that you don´t start rambling. You are staying with the subject and I really appreciate it. I always learn so much from your videos so thank you for making this 😊
... besides it being so rare, why in the heck would you actually want an obliqua? It seems like a lot of stress for a small plant that doesn't grow and costs a ton of money.
I bought a monstera "obliqua" in my local dobbies garden centre. It was labelled at £50. I took it to customer services and told them it was definitely not an obliqua and it looked a bit frazzled. They reduced it to 12.99. Its deffo not an obliqua. But I love it anyway
I love my Monstera Adansonii, but I have the round form and I always see people’s on instagram and was always really confused because mine looked different. I’m glad you cleared that up for me 😂 Now I have a reason to look for and get the narrow form 🤫💚🌱
The next time you feel different, misunderstood and just like you have nobody to relate with in the world, smile: you are the human equivalent of a Monstera Obliqua. Super precious.
I bought a beautiful Monstera Obliqua (that's how it was labeled) a couple months ago at my local nursery. It was looking very good with big leaves and I didn't knew the plant so I bought it. this video made me realize that it is not an Obliqua but its an Adonsonii. Lucky for me it was only 12 euros :) but maybe I should let the nursery know when I see it the next time cause I generally think they don't know the difference. Thanks for the amazing video with so much information! my Adonsonii is doing great btw. its climbing on a little wooden stairs I made.
Such an interesting video! I did know about the Obliqua being extremely rare. I bought an Adonsonii at my local garden centre which was labelled as an Obliqua, I went and told an employee that they were labelling it wrong but they wouldn't listen to me. Oh well. Also thanks for clearing something up, I have got two Adonsonii's but they look quite different. Which always had me puzzled. But I now think one is the round form and the other is the regular form. Now I really want to add an Adonsonii narrow form to my collection haha
Kaylee, you are freaking awesome! This was a monster; research wise. You sure schooled us. Thank you so much. You're becoming my Ecyclopedia Botanica. My botanical library even. Have a splendid week too. See you next Friday when you come to visit 😆. Bye
Wow!! You are the very first person that I have seen in UA-cam that goes way beyond to find the true, and... SHARE IT!! THANK YOU! This is very educational. Specially because You didn't only talk and educate us on the subject, but also have the plants on hand. I am very impressed, and greatful for your well make video.
Fantastic and Scholarly presentation. People ought to wonder why such-and-such is Rare and Costly. For obliqua, it's because its fussy and grows painfully slow. So pleased to see you showcasing the various forms of obliqua which no one in N. A. will ever see. I hope this helps many collectors. TYVM!
Thank you so much I regard that as a major compliment! I hope we can spread some awareness. Especially where things like stolons and that manner of growth are concerned.
Finally! It's so so sooo annoying to se people misnaming their plants everywhere over and over again, now we can finally refer back to this awesome video 💪🏻😊👍🏻💕
Yesss! This needed to be put out there in video format! Thank you! I would be very curious to see a video on other botanical unicorns. There must be more than one, right?
Thank you very much for this video, I recently bought my first ever monstera from eBay for dirt cheap that was sold as an Obliqua, I had no idea what the differences were and I’m now very glad to say it is a round form Adansonii! Thank you again
This is so fascinating! I love the history and facts you list with the botanists behind its discovery. I've known nothing about this identification controversy, but it's nice to know as a new plant mom! I'd love to see more scientific/historical plant breakdowns like this!
I also understand the frilling, but do you think that's from the fact alone that the humidity conditions are just impossible to meet in household conditions? Like it's just always on the verge of being too dry? 😂 I'm not a botanist either, just throwing around ideas
What I find most interesting, at least here in the US, is how many nurseries, and websites, just think it’s another interchangeable name for adansonii. Thanks for more great content!!
@@Helenjenna1 pretty much, about a month ago a seller from Florida posted one for one thousand dollars it was about a 4 inch plant, and yes it was the resl deal but can you imagine all that money 😧
We sell Adansonii at work. I'd pass on an Obliqua, anytime. Their are many other more beautiful plants. Especially since they will actually grow and be enjoyed with all the hard work, fertilizer (and micros, etc), and money value
Hello Kaylee Ellen, my name is Tales Valério and I live in Brazil, more precisely in Northeast Brazil. I study Architecture and Urbanism and have deepened my research in Landscaping. Our biggest reference in Brazilian and world landscaping regarding landscape projects and species research is undoubtedly Roberto Burle Marx. I would like to congratulate you on your beautiful and thorough work on the differences between Monstera Obliqua and Monstera Adansonii. Particularly I have some copies of M. Adansonii here at home. Very beautiful. I believe I saw M. Obliqua somewhere here in Brazil. I don't remember where. But, finally, I may be wrong, but it is so common and so easy to find rare species here in Brazil due to the richness of our diverse flora, that for many people it is natural to own or live among so many rare and fantastic species. God loves gardens. He took care of the details of each of his creations. I am following your posts from this video. Thanks for the information and seriousness. Hugs from the Brazilian people.
Very interesting and informative video, thank you!! I'd only comment on the adansonii pronunciation, the double ii is a prolonged eee and the obliqua is obliCOOa, in Latin, what you see, is what you pronounce 😊 To be honest, I prefer the adansonii, the obliqua looks a bit sickly with all these holes. Not that I would mind having one, of course!!! The runners are so cool, though!! Have a great day!!
So excited to see this pop up😊. I just got my first Monstera Adansonii cuttings so I'm stoked to see it grow😊👍❤. It's pretty hilarious that there is an actual hashtag #itsneverobliqua 😆😆😆.
You’re amazing! By far my favourite plant channel I love the detail you put in to these videos. Longer is better with your videos. Please keep them coming, I can’t wait for the next one!
This was a very interesting video. I just repotted my Adansonii Narrow Form, thanks to you I know the name now. I propagated the plant two years ago in a propagation class I took at a local nursery. They called it a Swiss Cheese Vine. Very Helpful to know the actual name.
I read the muggleplants article a few days ago and it cleared up so much confusion. Thanks for elaborating on the subject. I have now added a plant to my wishlist that I will never own
@@kristine5561 aaah just you wait!! 😄 The more videos you watch, the more the planticorn list grows!! Especially if you are across the world from the rest of the youtubers 😁
Such a shame that obliquas aren't given the justice they deserve for how incredibly rare they are. My adansonii was labelled obliqua so I assumed it was. So glad I now know what my lil guy is now. P.s. Thai constellation looking gorgeous 😍
Good morning, Kaylee Ellen. I am delighted to have discovered your channel. Man, my little peanut is fried after all the righteous info you poured into my brain in such an organized, concise, and dynamic manner. Thank you for all of your efforts on the behalf of all Monstera lovers and Monstera’s every/any where. I look forward to learning from your other tutorials and/or other presented content.
I’m assuming this doesn’t apply anymore? I see lots of obliqua these days, maybe after this video folks started to capitalize on the ‘rarity’ of the plant. I’ve watched other plant UA-camrs lately referencing that people ‘pretended it was rare and fragile’…wondering if anyone can comment on this, or @kayleeellen herself?
It’s not rare anymore and you can grow them in house conditions I grow mine on a windowsill in my bedroom and it’s not making runners yet and I’m currently growing a cutting in my grow tent to compare it with the one in my room
Thank you for doing this video. I’ve been thinking that someone needed to do a video like this so that people don’t get fooled into paying to much for a miss labeled plant. The obliqua truly is a beautiful unicorn.
Great video. I (and I think all of you followers) really appreciate the work you put in. I saw a adansonii listed as obliqua today at our local nursery and was sceptical. I asked the staf and they confirmed that the plant is a „true obliqua which justifies a price tag of almost 100€”. Now having actually seen this video I am very very sure that the plant was a narrow form of adansonii. Love #itsneverobliqua 😂🌱
Awh honestly this is great to hear! I have so much respect for this plant after doing so much research on it. Hopefully over time nurseries will stop doing this and change their names because it's not fair to the plant or the people paying the money. #itsneverobliqua ♥️
I think this kind of video is such an important topic to touch base on, specially now that growing plants has become the next trendy hobby. I've always collected plants, ever since I was 10 years old, and have seen so many people confused over some plants common name, never mind the scientific one! People mislabel plants all the time, sometimes on purpose, sometimes it's just a small mistake, and when you add up hybrids and specific collection points or 'forms' of certain plants it becomes really confusing and easy to do. People out there just need to be aware that what truly matters is that you like your plant, no matter what it is. It can become a little unhealthy when we hunt down plants just because they are rare, or nobody else has it, we should grow plants because we like them. Also, be realistic on what you grow, don't go thinking you'll be able to grow a saguaro in an apartment to it's full potential or an oak on your window sill. If you want to keep them it's perfectly good, I'd do it, but understand that if you want that kind of look you might have to get a plant that looks the part but isn't necessarily the exact one you wanted. Love all the videos, I really enjoy how you do research and really make an effort to properly identify plants and make everything as clear as possible. Keep them coming ;)
That is one really good video, one of the best from all those kinda show offs on various subjects. Very proffesional, clear, understandable for average ordinary person, with references, sources, non official opinion is pointed out, nice apperience beside it ... extremely good done on so many levels. Thank you very much for that and for so many infos
4 years later I have an Obliqua in my collection. Still rare, still expensive, but not as bad as the year you published this video. I enjoyed watching, though, very informative and a few facts I did not know.
There was an adansonii cutting I bought for 5$ at a flower shop and they said it was a monstera deliciosa. Didn't really matter to me. It's still pretty, but goes to show how easy things can be mislabeled. I didn't even know mine was a 'rounded' until your video. So your video is very informative! :)
Thank you so much for all this knowledge! I recently bought my first Monstera last week, which was labeled as both Monkey Leaf plant and Monstera Obliqua. I was confused after researching until now (yay youtube suggestions).
Thank you for this video! It definitely explains how rare obliqua is (and very unsustainable/ impractical as a houseplant?) As I said on your previous post, I was able to get a hold of something labeled M. Leichtlinii which (due to some google search) I believed is a hybrid of obliqua - I found it listed somewhere as a M. Obliqua "Leichtlinii" but now I believe it's just a round form of Adansonii or something very similar - it's definitely not regular or narrow form though. But your video has been very helpful to me to somewhat closely identify what I have :D
I know this is an old video. But could not resist to not comment on this informative video. Today In San Francisco bay area Home Depot a big box store. there were hundreds of plants in different sizes from $9.98 to $19.98 and all were labelled Oblique!! Not for a second believed it. However I bought a (most probably a round form Adansonii) very healthy one for $9.98. Thank you Kaylee I am watching your videos for a while now. This video was very informative. Thank you.
You’re an amazing teacher! I had no idea they were so different but your video is structured and cited in such a way that is so easy to understand! Thank you, keep doing what you’re doing 🤩
I always thought I had an adansonii from looking at my plant (and it looking like others on Google), but the pot it came in from Notcutts said Obliqua. I didn't even read the label at the time as I wasn't very planty then and I've only noticed now because I used it to pot my first cutting (I guess you could call that growth lmao), but I find it hard to believe no one at these garden centres or at least in the supply chain knows they're misrepresenting it 👀 Thank you for this video! It was much more informative than Reddit!
Wow! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Very thorough and informative. Much appreciated for all your research on this topic. I have an adansonii round form and very happy with how it’s growing. Look forward to your next video kaylee! 🙌🏼🙋🏻♀️🇵🇭
Hey Ally Cat, last week, I found an adonsaii at Walmart of all places and my Calloway's (North Tarrant Pkwy) has several large adonsaii that are vining well (seen this past Saturday).
Great video, fantastic effort! The only thing I'd say that everybody in English speaking world seems to butcher the Latin names of plants. It's not Adansoni-eye, it's Adansoni-e. Oxx
Thank you, I would comment on the pronunciation as well. Latin pronunciation is pretty straightforward, in fact I'll be making a video on that. I think the second "i" is added for accent purposes 😃
@@claudiagiannetto1463 your input would be so appreciated when I make the plant pronounciation video!! I'll be focusing on the (latinised) greek words, but I have some accent questions, let me know if you'd mind asking you a few things. Have a great weekend!! 😊
I was heart broken at first when I came to know how rare the m obliqua is as I wanted to have one just for the sheer beauty of it but now I’m happy and content by my adensonii because I can see it grow and as for obliqua # stay home stay safe❤️
So in other words your the only one who will see a Monstera Obliqua and alot of other rare plants you are truely blessed as far as the plant world goes thanks for sharing this and all the other videos with rare plants that i would never know about or see unless i watch your videos❤
Update: 2022 August... The market is about to be flooded with Obliqua. As the pandemiv boom seems to die down, people are now letting go of a temporary hobby, as they're not indoors constantly any longer, and thus have no more infinite time to fuss over their plants. Professional players on the market have been growing obliqua Peru for the last 3 years from these runners, and now have hundreds, if not thousands of this plant in stock! So, from thousands, it'll now be around 200 for a small, rooted plant or a few nodes.
Very well done. I got so excited last night seeing one 'online' at our local garden center here in Austria - slightly higher in price than the regular adansonii - I thought 'could it beeeeeee????' Wah. I guess not. Man, what a bummer. Great video. xoxo
Thank you, I have just correctly labeled my wee monstera now! It's weird that people buying plants can sometimes label them better than the plant shop selling them ...The other week I went to my local garden shop and there was a crate of parlor palms labeled as ponytail palms....
Stumbled upon this video while looking for something else and gotta say that i was super impressed with the content, never imagined a youtube video with such amount of factual details and quality information. Smashed the Like button I wonder if anyone could help me to understand if there's different varieties of a Monstera Adansonii which trails, i have 2 of them and one grows vertically but the other trails like Pathos, it was so hard to get it and it was the last 3 that could find that were abandoned at a local shop. Its also Interesting to know that there's multiple sellers here in Malaysia selling Obliqua, thanks for this detailed video which help identify them, and yes their prices are shocking but still much cheaper than the UK i guess.
obliqua or adansonii, I just love my plant! It gives me so much joy. I'm thinking of buying it more to cover some more spaces in my house. thank you for this informative video.
This video has been so informative and interesting. Thank you so much for all of the research that took you and for sharing it with the world. Today my boyfriend bought an Obliqua for me, of course it is an Adasonii, and of course I only know that because of your video. 💚
I have an adansonii and after watching this video I now know it is the narrow form. Listening to you talk about the difficult environment to replicate to grow the obliqua I’ll stick to my adansonii... also I don’t have $800 for a plant anyway 🤷🏽♀️ but it is beautiful!
Wonderful and informative video! :) I have just a regular run off the mill Adansonii that I got for dirt cheap but it's my pride and joy. Can't wait to see a Rare plant index on Monsteras!
I love how during the pandemic so many hard to buy plants went from "OMG I finaly found it and Im willing do whatever the seller asks" to "every plant youtuber has it so im gonna go to the plant store and buy it for 50$"
I just bought one at Plant Con in houston texas. I was super skeptical because I had seen this video a while ago, but it checks every box, even the frills. If I tell you how much I paid you really wouldn't believe me.
This video was truly interesting, informative, and very well executed. Thank you for your efforts. While I do not have any of the plants discussed, or have any interest owning, I enjoyed the education of them nevertheless. Keep up the great work! 👌👏
Wow! Thank you for educating us on the characteristics of a true, real, authentic Monstera obliqua specially its distinct features, the "runners" as well as being "miniature". I almost bought a fake one at very high cost in Floridablanca, Pampanga in the Philippines. Thank you so much. Godspeed.
Thank you for making this video! I was always slightly confused when I ordered two monsters adosoniis from different nurseries and they looked different (one was regular and the other round).
I wonder if in 20 years people would look back and say ''remember when people were obsessed with those plants that had holes in them, and they paid thousands of dollars for the ones that looked like they had been painted?'' hahahahaha
First, I have learned so much from your videos and watch them and review them often. Thank you. You are a great and generous teacher! Im still a little confused about adonsonii-- How is it possible to tell the difference between laniata versus regular adonsonii (narrow or wide), especially when it's in its juvenile state? Or how would I know im buying a laniata versus a large/mature leaf of adonsonii? I think I can see the difference between wide and narrow adonsonii, but cant figure out the laniata...I would like to collect all three forms. Thank you!!!
@@KayleeEllenOfficial Oh yes please! I basically have researched the differences already, but some people deny that there is a difference... so I'm confused
Fantastic video! I've been waiting for this. I'm glad you noted the frills too because I noticed that! Also my pal and I visited Flourish at the weekend after seeing your video and it was fab! May have spent too much....😂
@@KayleeEllenOfficial I was visiting my pal in Manchester and they were amazed that I'd come all the way from Margate for plants! But they just have stuff we don't get here. My friend however does live in Manchester and is now cursing me for showing her a new way to spend all her money
@@KayleeEllenOfficial they were really lovely as well. They helped my 5 year old pick a plant that she could look after and gave her her own little bag to carry it in. Lovely people.
A quick word on Monstera Epipremnoides to avoid some of the confusion: it is also a super rare plant and will not accidentally be sold in shops. Mick Mittermeier himself has had some trouble sourcing these kinds of plants. I apologise if I've made people think they might have Epipremnoides- it cannot be found in shops! You have Adansonii I promise! Lol 😂😅
Could you pls explain the differences between adansonii and accuminata next? And ways to identify accuminata. Thanks
@@chuuuuu_k yes please! i got confused about accuminata too and i hoped to find it in this video x)
Hi Kaylee! First of all, I love your videos, especially your rare plant indexes, hauls and just your general aura! You make amazing videos basically!
Now, I am so confused between the three forms - of course, I clearly see the differences when you show them in this video, however all adansoniis are very different I find. On the Swedish bidding market place "Tradera", a lot of people are selling them :) Can you make a more in depth video on how to differentiate the three forms, with more different plants of the same form or something?
Good work!
Just found the channel and I’m hooked. Great video. This cleared so much up. How did you get an obliqua?!
Oops! I guess I have some narrow form and round and that’s it 😂 Not an Epipremnoides as I briefly thought. 😂
My grandfather was a rare plant collector and he had an obliqua and it was his pride and joy it only had two small leaves but when he died he requested my step nan to have it be donated to kew gardens and they now have it in a private archived collection in his name
Wow beautiful and touching story 😍
rest in peace 🙏🏽
What a sweet story. Your grandfather sounds awesome. Where is Kew Gardens?
Sounds like that obliqua has been verified! Seems like a nice family heritage.
@@kendalnewman3922 london
Fact: Monstera Obliqua makes bigger holes in your pocket.
The obliqua is cool because of its rarity - but if it wasn't so rare and someone offered me the choice between it and adansonii, I'd take the adansonii. I like to see my plants grow new leaves, etc. I don't think I'd like just having runners grow from my plant. I guess if I owned it I would keep it in a vivarium then with humidity and artificial light. For me I'm happy with adansonii- but cool to know! I hope people don't destroy these delicate plants by harvesting too many from the wild
Nevertheless, it is a fast proliferator rather than a fast grower. You can let the new plants cover the ground instead of climbing. That is, if you have the suitable conditions.
the sad thing to me is that so many people want it because of the IG hype, those people probably aren't even real plant collectors, they are only interested in 'rare plants from IG for IG'
@@XLightChanX precisely
I prefer the look of adensonii better too. The only reason I would accept an obliqua so that I can trade it for an albo 😊
If you pin the runners down into the media they make leaves. Use a moss pole :)
I think we need to appreciate the amount of research Kaylee Ellen has put in making this video, as well as her effort in getting these plants to show us the difference!
You're becoming the best! Keep pushing yourself to tackle topics yet to be covered in such visual detail!
Anyone else get extremely nervous whenever she touches or waves the obliqua around? 😅
Thank you! 😂 I was dying imagining the plant owner watching her wave it around like that.
“This plant is so so soooo rare” (while shaking the plant violently) haha
@@joaocoelho2624 😅 glad I'm not the only one, don't shake your babies 🌱🌱
Yes!!!
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Guys what do you think - should we start a #justiceforobliqua hashtag!? 😂😁😜
Kaylee Ellen Definitely 😂 Sadly, many plants get mislabeled - I even saw m. deliciosa labeled as a ficus?! And where I live many people still think of m. deliciosa as a philodendron. :/ Then they think I am crazy when I tell them they are calling it wrong 😒
I'd say #justiceforadansonii make them proud for being what they are! ;)
YES!!! 😄
Do u think it can be tissue cultured?
I support it! Thank you for clearing our misunderstanding.
Kaylee! Freaking love you for making this video. I can say that I´m new and have never heard about the Obliqua. But this video is SO WELL DONE! The editing is so freaking good that I got goosebumps. I love that you don´t start rambling. You are staying with the subject and I really appreciate it. I always learn so much from your videos so thank you for making this 😊
... besides it being so rare, why in the heck would you actually want an obliqua? It seems like a lot of stress for a small plant that doesn't grow and costs a ton of money.
Tbh it's kinda ugly
just because it is rare. The thrill of having such a rare plant is simply about having something that others don't.
I bought a monstera "obliqua" in my local dobbies garden centre. It was labelled at £50. I took it to customer services and told them it was definitely not an obliqua and it looked a bit frazzled. They reduced it to 12.99. Its deffo not an obliqua. But I love it anyway
I love my Monstera Adansonii, but I have the round form and I always see people’s on instagram and was always really confused because mine looked different. I’m glad you cleared that up for me 😂 Now I have a reason to look for and get the narrow form 🤫💚🌱
That’s how I came across this video! I wanted to know why everyone’s adansonii looks different than mine, haha
I have both and it amazes me how different they look
I found an obliqua labeled monstera in my local hardware store reduced in price to 1,73€. Seems legit 😂
The next time you feel different, misunderstood and just like you have nobody to relate with in the world, smile: you are the human equivalent of a Monstera Obliqua. Super precious.
Haha love it!!
I bought a beautiful Monstera Obliqua (that's how it was labeled) a couple months ago at my local nursery. It was looking very good with big leaves and I didn't knew the plant so I bought it. this video made me realize that it is not an Obliqua but its an Adonsonii. Lucky for me it was only 12 euros :) but maybe I should let the nursery know when I see it the next time cause I generally think they don't know the difference.
Thanks for the amazing video with so much information! my Adonsonii is doing great btw. its climbing on a little wooden stairs I made.
Such an interesting video! I did know about the Obliqua being extremely rare. I bought an Adonsonii at my local garden centre which was labelled as an Obliqua, I went and told an employee that they were labelling it wrong but they wouldn't listen to me. Oh well. Also thanks for clearing something up, I have got two Adonsonii's but they look quite different. Which always had me puzzled. But I now think one is the round form and the other is the regular form. Now I really want to add an Adonsonii narrow form to my collection haha
I have sent this video to the local shop where I bought my Adansonii too
(no shade - 100% serious) I love that you have your obliqua in an Ikea pot
Kaylee, you are freaking awesome! This was a monster; research wise. You sure schooled us. Thank you so much. You're becoming my Ecyclopedia Botanica. My botanical library even. Have a splendid week too. See you next Friday when you come to visit 😆. Bye
And 4 years later there are obliquas in my nearest OBI gardening center... this is truly a lesson to be patient and wait 😅
This was an excellently educational video. Thanks! 😊
Wow!! You are the very first person that I have seen in UA-cam that goes way beyond to find the true, and... SHARE IT!! THANK YOU! This is very educational. Specially because You didn't only talk and educate us on the subject, but also have the plants on hand. I am very impressed, and greatful for your well make video.
Fantastic and Scholarly presentation.
People ought to wonder why such-and-such is Rare and Costly. For obliqua, it's because its fussy and grows painfully slow. So pleased to see you showcasing the various forms of obliqua which no one in N. A. will ever see. I hope this helps many collectors. TYVM!
Thank you so much I regard that as a major compliment! I hope we can spread some awareness. Especially where things like stolons and that manner of growth are concerned.
I’d really love to see an updated video of this comparison and a video about how they have spread more.
So much can change in 5 years! I just got one & it’s amazing! I have all the Adonsonii & this is very different from the rest. I love the ruffles ❤
Finally! It's so so sooo annoying to se people misnaming their plants everywhere over and over again, now we can finally refer back to this awesome video 💪🏻😊👍🏻💕
Yesss! This needed to be put out there in video format! Thank you!
I would be very curious to see a video on other botanical unicorns. There must be more than one, right?
Thank you very much for this video, I recently bought my first ever monstera from eBay for dirt cheap that was sold as an Obliqua, I had no idea what the differences were and I’m now very glad to say it is a round form Adansonii! Thank you again
This is so fascinating! I love the history and facts you list with the botanists behind its discovery. I've known nothing about this identification controversy, but it's nice to know as a new plant mom! I'd love to see more scientific/historical plant breakdowns like this!
I also understand the frilling, but do you think that's from the fact alone that the humidity conditions are just impossible to meet in household conditions? Like it's just always on the verge of being too dry? 😂 I'm not a botanist either, just throwing around ideas
Nah I've noticed it on obliqua in the wild too - but I see what you're saying though!
What I find most interesting, at least here in the US, is how many nurseries, and websites, just think it’s another interchangeable name for adansonii. Thanks for more great content!!
You know its an obliquea when its a thousand dollars
Lol basically 😂
I’m selling my adansonaii for 999,99 😄
@@Helenjenna1 pretty much, about a month ago a seller from Florida posted one for one thousand dollars it was about a 4 inch plant, and yes it was the resl deal but can you imagine all that money 😧
Recently a girl on a plant group I belong to sold one for $3701 on eBay. 😮
We sell Adansonii at work. I'd pass on an Obliqua, anytime. Their are many other more beautiful plants. Especially since they will actually grow and be enjoyed with all the hard work, fertilizer (and micros, etc), and money value
Hello Kaylee Ellen, my name is Tales Valério and I live in Brazil, more precisely in Northeast Brazil. I study Architecture and Urbanism and have deepened my research in Landscaping. Our biggest reference in Brazilian and world landscaping regarding landscape projects and species research is undoubtedly Roberto Burle Marx. I would like to congratulate you on your beautiful and thorough work on the differences between Monstera Obliqua and Monstera Adansonii. Particularly I have some copies of M. Adansonii here at home. Very beautiful. I believe I saw M. Obliqua somewhere here in Brazil. I don't remember where. But, finally, I may be wrong, but it is so common and so easy to find rare species here in Brazil due to the richness of our diverse flora, that for many people it is natural to own or live among so many rare and fantastic species. God loves gardens. He took care of the details of each of his creations. I am following your posts from this video. Thanks for the information and seriousness. Hugs from the Brazilian people.
Yesss! Thank you for making this video 🙌🏻💜💜
So incredibly informative and interesting as always! Absolutely loved it 😍
Very interesting and informative video, thank you!!
I'd only comment on the adansonii pronunciation, the double ii is a prolonged eee and the obliqua is obliCOOa, in Latin, what you see, is what you pronounce 😊
To be honest, I prefer the adansonii, the obliqua looks a bit sickly with all these holes. Not that I would mind having one, of course!!! The runners are so cool, though!!
Have a great day!!
yes!!! so glad someone else knows this. i have so far never heard a english speaking person pronounce it the correct way. especially the adansonii.
So excited to see this pop up😊. I just got my first Monstera Adansonii cuttings so I'm stoked to see it grow😊👍❤. It's pretty hilarious that there is an actual hashtag #itsneverobliqua 😆😆😆.
You’re amazing! By far my favourite plant channel I love the detail you put in to these videos. Longer is better with your videos. Please keep them coming, I can’t wait for the next one!
This was a very interesting video. I just repotted my Adansonii Narrow Form, thanks to you I know the name now. I propagated the plant two years ago in a propagation class I took at a local nursery. They called it a Swiss Cheese Vine. Very Helpful to know the actual name.
Been waiting for this video! Very informational and apparently I have Adansonii round form!
You're amazing, love you and your videos!!
THIS VIDEO IS WHY YOU'RE THE BEST WOMAN!! We needed this so badly hahah I'm going to refer to this video for years
I read the muggleplants article a few days ago and it cleared up so much confusion. Thanks for elaborating on the subject. I have now added a plant to my wishlist that I will never own
Aaah the planticorn wishlist!! I think we all have a huge one!! 😂
Valium K. There used to be only 1, but then again, I haven’t really been into house plants for very long.
@@kristine5561 aaah just you wait!! 😄
The more videos you watch, the more the planticorn list grows!!
Especially if you are across the world from the rest of the youtubers 😁
Such a shame that obliquas aren't given the justice they deserve for how incredibly rare they are. My adansonii was labelled obliqua so I assumed it was. So glad I now know what my lil guy is now.
P.s. Thai constellation looking gorgeous 😍
Good morning, Kaylee Ellen. I am delighted to have discovered your channel. Man, my little peanut is fried after all the righteous info you poured into my brain in such an organized, concise, and dynamic manner. Thank you for all of your efforts on the behalf of all Monstera lovers and Monstera’s every/any where. I look forward to learning from your other tutorials and/or other presented content.
Monstera Obliqua is sold at around $8 for a two-leaf rooted cutting in China now. For $20, you can get a fairly large one with 20-ish leaves.
I’m assuming this doesn’t apply anymore? I see lots of obliqua these days, maybe after this video folks started to capitalize on the ‘rarity’ of the plant. I’ve watched other plant UA-camrs lately referencing that people ‘pretended it was rare and fragile’…wondering if anyone can comment on this, or @kayleeellen herself?
It’s not rare anymore and you can grow them in house conditions I grow mine on a windowsill in my bedroom and it’s not making runners yet and I’m currently growing a cutting in my grow tent to compare it with the one in my room
I bought 2 adensonia , one has a long more narrow leaf and one more round , I’m glad this happened by accident tfs so much great information 🌱
Thank you for doing this video. I’ve been thinking that someone needed to do a video like this so that people don’t get fooled into paying to much for a miss labeled plant. The obliqua truly is a beautiful unicorn.
I have an Adansonii regular form and I love it.... 🌱🥰
Great video. I (and I think all of you followers) really appreciate the work you put in.
I saw a adansonii listed as obliqua today at our local nursery and was sceptical. I asked the staf and they confirmed that the plant is a „true obliqua which justifies a price tag of almost 100€”. Now having actually seen this video I am very very sure that the plant was a narrow form of adansonii.
Love #itsneverobliqua 😂🌱
Awh honestly this is great to hear! I have so much respect for this plant after doing so much research on it. Hopefully over time nurseries will stop doing this and change their names because it's not fair to the plant or the people paying the money. #itsneverobliqua ♥️
Please send them this video xD 100euros is a rip off
It is! I happily would lol but I'm due a LOT of hate on this video as the viewcount grows 😂
Been waiting for this video a while but it was really worth it. Thank you for putting so much effort into this
I think this kind of video is such an important topic to touch base on, specially now that growing plants has become the next trendy hobby. I've always collected plants, ever since I was 10 years old, and have seen so many people confused over some plants common name, never mind the scientific one! People mislabel plants all the time, sometimes on purpose, sometimes it's just a small mistake, and when you add up hybrids and specific collection points or 'forms' of certain plants it becomes really confusing and easy to do. People out there just need to be aware that what truly matters is that you like your plant, no matter what it is. It can become a little unhealthy when we hunt down plants just because they are rare, or nobody else has it, we should grow plants because we like them. Also, be realistic on what you grow, don't go thinking you'll be able to grow a saguaro in an apartment to it's full potential or an oak on your window sill. If you want to keep them it's perfectly good, I'd do it, but understand that if you want that kind of look you might have to get a plant that looks the part but isn't necessarily the exact one you wanted.
Love all the videos, I really enjoy how you do research and really make an effort to properly identify plants and make everything as clear as possible. Keep them coming ;)
Franz von Köller thank you for putting into words something I’ve been thinking for a while!!
That is one really good video, one of the best from all those kinda show offs on various subjects. Very proffesional, clear, understandable for average ordinary person, with references, sources, non official opinion is pointed out, nice apperience beside it ... extremely good done on so many levels. Thank you very much for that and for so many infos
4 years later I have an Obliqua in my collection. Still rare, still expensive, but not as bad as the year you published this video. I enjoyed watching, though, very informative and a few facts I did not know.
There was an adansonii cutting I bought for 5$ at a flower shop and they said it was a monstera deliciosa.
Didn't really matter to me. It's still pretty, but goes to show how easy things can be mislabeled.
I didn't even know mine was a 'rounded' until your video. So your video is very informative! :)
Thank you so much for all this knowledge! I recently bought my first Monstera last week, which was labeled as both Monkey Leaf plant and Monstera Obliqua. I was confused after researching until now (yay youtube suggestions).
Such effort. So informative. Thank you 😘🌱. So Great that THAT PERSON❤️ borrow you such plant gems!🤘🙋🏼♀️🌱
Thank you for this video! It definitely explains how rare obliqua is (and very unsustainable/ impractical as a houseplant?) As I said on your previous post, I was able to get a hold of something labeled M. Leichtlinii which (due to some google search) I believed is a hybrid of obliqua - I found it listed somewhere as a M. Obliqua "Leichtlinii" but now I believe it's just a round form of Adansonii or something very similar - it's definitely not regular or narrow form though. But your video has been very helpful to me to somewhat closely identify what I have :D
I know this is an old video. But could not resist to not comment on this informative video. Today In San Francisco bay area Home Depot a big box store. there were hundreds of plants in different sizes from $9.98 to $19.98 and all were labelled Oblique!! Not for a second believed it. However I bought a (most probably a round form Adansonii) very healthy one for $9.98. Thank you Kaylee I am watching your videos for a while now. This video was very informative. Thank you.
Incredibly insightful and knowledgeable video, thank you Kaylee Ellen
You’re an amazing teacher! I had no idea they were so different but your video is structured and cited in such a way that is so easy to understand! Thank you, keep doing what you’re doing 🤩
BETTER material on that subject EVER! Congrats! Wonderful work!
I always thought I had an adansonii from looking at my plant (and it looking like others on Google), but the pot it came in from Notcutts said Obliqua. I didn't even read the label at the time as I wasn't very planty then and I've only noticed now because I used it to pot my first cutting (I guess you could call that growth lmao), but I find it hard to believe no one at these garden centres or at least in the supply chain knows they're misrepresenting it 👀
Thank you for this video! It was much more informative than Reddit!
Wow! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Very thorough and informative. Much appreciated for all your research on this topic. I have an adansonii round form and very happy with how it’s growing. Look forward to your next video kaylee! 🙌🏼🙋🏻♀️🇵🇭
I don't have access to either of these plants (get it together North Texas!!), but I'm still so excited for this video!
@Lluvia Luna How awesome! I'm in McKinney (north of Dallas)
Hi!!! I’m in Fort Worth
Hey Ally Cat, last week, I found an adonsaii at Walmart of all places and my Calloway's (North Tarrant Pkwy) has several large adonsaii that are vining well (seen this past Saturday).
Thank you Kaylee, for taking the time to explain the difference between these rare plants. I love your channel and appreciate your input on plants.👏🌴
this is such an informative video, thank you so much kaylee for your time and dedication. ❤️ just bought my adansonii the other day, very happy
This is a really helpful breakdown of so many different kinds of monstera! Thank you for making it! That epripomoides does look so cool mature
Damn girl, your makeup is always on point and looking fabulous!
Oh my god, what an amazing plant. Thanks for the info!
Great video, fantastic effort! The only thing I'd say that everybody in English speaking world seems to butcher the Latin names of plants. It's not Adansoni-eye, it's Adansoni-e. Oxx
Thank you, I would comment on the pronunciation as well. Latin pronunciation is pretty straightforward, in fact I'll be making a video on that. I think the second "i" is added for accent purposes 😃
Correct. And the same goes for Obliqua: the correct pronounciation is oblekwa, not obleka.
@@claudiagiannetto1463 your input would be so appreciated when I make the plant pronounciation video!! I'll be focusing on the (latinised) greek words, but I have some accent questions, let me know if you'd mind asking you a few things. Have a great weekend!! 😊
Thank you!! This does drive me nuts sometimes but we all learned it from someone else as well :)
I was heart broken at first when I came to know how rare the m obliqua is as I wanted to have one just for the sheer beauty of it but now I’m happy and content by my adensonii because I can see it grow and as for obliqua # stay home stay safe❤️
So in other words your the only one who will see a Monstera Obliqua and alot of other rare plants you are truely blessed as far as the plant world goes thanks for sharing this and all the other videos with rare plants that i would never know about or see unless i watch your videos❤
Wow, this was very accurate and well researched. Congratulations! Love these educational contents, please make more videos like this!
I am glad that I have come across this video of yours. This is a very helpful information. I hope more people will see this. Thank you. Well done.
Thanks for making the extensive research and sharing your results. The video is very exciting and I love you reference to sources.
Update: 2022 August... The market is about to be flooded with Obliqua. As the pandemiv boom seems to die down, people are now letting go of a temporary hobby, as they're not indoors constantly any longer, and thus have no more infinite time to fuss over their plants. Professional players on the market have been growing obliqua Peru for the last 3 years from these runners, and now have hundreds, if not thousands of this plant in stock! So, from thousands, it'll now be around 200 for a small, rooted plant or a few nodes.
Yes, definitively outdated
Very well done. I got so excited last night seeing one 'online' at our local garden center here in Austria - slightly higher in price than the regular adansonii - I thought 'could it beeeeeee????' Wah. I guess not. Man, what a bummer. Great video. xoxo
Thank you, I have just correctly labeled my wee monstera now! It's weird that people buying plants can sometimes label them better than the plant shop selling them ...The other week I went to my local garden shop and there was a crate of parlor palms labeled as ponytail palms....
Stumbled upon this video while looking for something else and gotta say that i was super impressed with the content, never imagined a youtube video with such amount of factual details and quality information.
Smashed the Like button
I wonder if anyone could help me to understand if there's different varieties of a Monstera Adansonii which trails, i have 2 of them and one grows vertically but the other trails like Pathos, it was so hard to get it and it was the last 3 that could find that were abandoned at a local shop.
Its also Interesting to know that there's multiple sellers here in Malaysia selling Obliqua, thanks for this detailed video which help identify them, and yes their prices are shocking but still much cheaper than the UK i guess.
thanks for all the information, Kaylee! love how in depth you are
obliqua or adansonii, I just love my plant! It gives me so much joy. I'm thinking of buying it more to cover some more spaces in my house. thank you for this informative video.
This video has been so informative and interesting. Thank you so much for all of the research that took you and for sharing it with the world. Today my boyfriend bought an Obliqua for me, of course it is an Adasonii, and of course I only know that because of your video. 💚
I have an adansonii and after watching this video I now know it is the narrow form. Listening to you talk about the difficult environment to replicate to grow the obliqua I’ll stick to my adansonii... also I don’t have $800 for a plant anyway 🤷🏽♀️ but it is beautiful!
Same! I don't have one but I think someone else can deal with the obliqua, some of my calatheas are giving me a hard enough time! 🤣
You do such a great job at making videos......very informative and entertaining. Thank you, Kaylee!
Wonderful and informative video! :) I have just a regular run off the mill Adansonii that I got for dirt cheap but it's my pride and joy. Can't wait to see a Rare plant index on Monsteras!
I love how during the pandemic so many hard to buy plants went from "OMG I finaly found it and Im willing do whatever the seller asks" to "every plant youtuber has it so im gonna go to the plant store and buy it for 50$"
Well I don’t have an adansonii either :^>
Fluffy Corn maybe it’s a hybrid, I am also confused about mine.
I live in France and I went to two plant stores today....both had Adansonii plants but all were labelled obliqua.
stiffaniek same here in vienna
Same in uk
same here in germany🙄🙄
I just bought one at Plant Con in houston texas. I was super skeptical because I had seen this video a while ago, but it checks every box, even the frills.
If I tell you how much I paid you really wouldn't believe me.
Your knowledge and delivery are wonderful. Thank you for sharing your interest with us
This video was truly interesting, informative, and very well executed. Thank you for your efforts. While I do not have any of the plants discussed, or have any interest owning, I enjoyed the education of them nevertheless. Keep up the great work! 👌👏
Wow! Thank you for educating us on the characteristics of a true, real, authentic Monstera obliqua specially its distinct features, the "runners" as well as being "miniature". I almost bought a fake one at very high cost in Floridablanca, Pampanga in the Philippines. Thank you so much. Godspeed.
Thank you for making this video! I was always slightly confused when I ordered two monsters adosoniis from different nurseries and they looked different (one was regular and the other round).
I wonder if in 20 years people would look back and say ''remember when people were obsessed with those plants that had holes in them, and they paid thousands of dollars for the ones that looked like they had been painted?'' hahahahaha
I bought a monstera adansonii for my birthday with a gift card, and my daughter loves to tease me that I paid money for more hole than plant 😆
Thankyou so much for all your hard work that went into this awesome video! You're a botanical superhero!
Thank you for the research and education on this. I have been confused about the differences and now you enlightened me.
Awesome and informative video! Nice work covering the bases.
Wow!! Your video is absolutely amazing!! Very educational and easy to understand!! You are the best!! 💚💚
First, I have learned so much from your videos and watch them and review them often. Thank you. You are a great and generous teacher! Im still a little confused about adonsonii-- How is it possible to tell the difference between laniata versus regular adonsonii (narrow or wide), especially when it's in its juvenile state? Or how would I know im buying a laniata versus a large/mature leaf of adonsonii? I think I can see the difference between wide and narrow adonsonii, but cant figure out the laniata...I would like to collect all three forms. Thank you!!!
Amazing! Do you think you could one on monstera deliciosa sp. borsigiana versus the monstera deliciosa that is not borsigiana?
Yes I think that's a great idea! The video wont be as long as this one of course but yes! 😁
@@KayleeEllenOfficial Oh yes please! I basically have researched the differences already, but some people deny that there is a difference... so I'm confused
Ilkku I’ve even seen people reverse the differences, for extra confusion!!
@@meeks6798 what do you mean?
Fantastic video! I've been waiting for this. I'm glad you noted the frills too because I noticed that! Also my pal and I visited Flourish at the weekend after seeing your video and it was fab! May have spent too much....😂
Awhh! I haven't been to Flourish in so long! I might have to have a little visit 😁 Ant the owner is lovely! Along with Diana
@@KayleeEllenOfficial I was visiting my pal in Manchester and they were amazed that I'd come all the way from Margate for plants! But they just have stuff we don't get here. My friend however does live in Manchester and is now cursing me for showing her a new way to spend all her money
@@KayleeEllenOfficial they were really lovely as well. They helped my 5 year old pick a plant that she could look after and gave her her own little bag to carry it in. Lovely people.
Very interesting video! It held my attention from the start to the end! Please do similar videos in the future!
I really appreciate your research on making this video!