At last, somebody who's into ''rare'' tropical plants but who's also educated and has substance to his videos! Glad to subscribe! So yes, $200 is quite expensive but I guess it's what it's still going for here in Canada unless the bubble really has burst. Got myself runners of both the peruvian form and amazonas for 70CAD a few months ago but I had to look around a LONG time to get that deal. My peruvian form now has 2 leaves and I'm really excited to get it bigger and then share its runners with other people!
Hey, lol totally read your name as "Naked Girls". Well played... And nice work, re: getting peru and amazonas. I haven't seen many people into the non-peruvian form, so it's awesome to meet a fellow obliqua nut haha. And yeah, they seem to really go off once they start going, so I think you're in for a ride. I got mine a few months ago too and it's already onto its 3rd new leaf in my care (5 total). The big one in that video. I'm in love! Definitely want to grow it up a moss pole and get it LARRRRRGE and in charge.
Its crazy i just got a wetstick for 10$ , last year that cost 100$ and its been 3 weeks and a leaf is pushing out ! I feel good about this plant so far . I watched your obliqua wet stick - runner propagation vid and was looking for an update vid ?
That science story was so interesting, I enjoyed it very much. I've been hunting for an obliqua for a while, but my budget is not at their price point, yet.
Australian native mice are so cool. I found a book in Borders once that had all the species in it and it's still one of my favourite books. Sadly many have gone extinct since that book was published and that's greatly disturbing.
I hope you see this comment even though this is a bit of an older video now, I loved hearing about taxonomy and native Australian species. I'm in Queensland and like choosing native tropical plants where possible, but I've found there's not a lot of information out there about native tropical/house plants. Seeing as you've got the biology background, I would love to see more info on native plants from you!
See, the problem is, you missed he oblivious. Everyone knows if it lives outside, it’s a Rat. Mice live inside! Depending where they found it, it could be two different species. In the tent, mouse, in the field, rat. (Vague ‘Scary Movie’ reference) What’s the mix you have those in? Standard aroid mix? Do you find Obliqua any more susceptible to root rot or is that just plant myth? Just got my first rooted cutting. Got it in perlite right now with some Esqueleto cuttings. Decent roots. Need to decide what to do. Right now I’m leaning toward my aroid mix going heavier on the cocopeat for extra good drainage.
In scientific terms, rats and mice are both rats (like frogs and toads are both frogs). However, the common names with 'mouse' in them will be used for any rat
A obliqa like yours would be Sadley only $100 USD here or $154 Australian dollar I bought a runner with two nodes for $45 and now if I wanted to sell them I could get $20 MAX, it is crazy..
Yeah interesting discussion! Taxonomy is such a rabbit hole, it leads to some quite philosophical musings because in many ways its pretty arbitrary...the species hybridising thing for instance. If two species can create viable offspring, then I guess you either have to look at the definition of 'species' and remove the 'cannot breed viable offspring' part of the definition, or you have to lose some of the morphology aspects of the definition, or... In the end maybe a lot of it is human distinctions as well as biological ones in many cases! The obliqua story is interesting, morphologically they are really pretty different looking...! I've also heard / seen that the thaumatophyllum thing is a bit conflicted and that may change again, putting everything back under the philodendron umbrella!
@@petevsplants7516 Hey I’ve got 2 of those 😅 Thanks for the reply! I really enjoyed your story! Micks video was very enlightening thanks for the recommendation. My love for plants has turned into a love for botany ♥️
Good to know that obliqua might be renamed. Americans can't pronounce obliqua at all. The new species should be named something Amricans can pronounce like hamburger
Sigh! And these are unlikely the unicorn olbiqua. The holy grail obliqua. There are many accepted forms floating around and I have one myself, purchased from a reputable seller who was transparent, that although it an accepted form of obliqua, it's not the unicorn. I paid $12 aus for it. Im sorry but they dont look like the unicorn.
@@petevsplants7516 something around that. Thats because it was an honest seller, actually a professional business/grower that has been in the business for years. The only reason the unicorn costs as much as it does is because its so rare. And from what I've been told by those in the know, is that most in the industry dont believe the real unicorn is even in Australia atm. Therefore spending anything over normal retail plant price on an obliqua is crazy. The real unicorn grows exceptionally slowly and is a drama queen, so that also lends to its rareness.
Really cool video! I think Marco Cedeño is from Costa Rica, I follow his insta and also Mick( I think he is from the USA but they are friends I think) they are so passionate about monsteras and taxonomy, impressive work!
Gash this is so cool and exciting that there is still a bunch of plant taxonomy that is to be determined
I know, there's probably way more than we expect :D
Appreciate the edits and memes 🤌🏼 especially 1:05 had me rolling!
Hehe cheers, Karliah :D
At last, somebody who's into ''rare'' tropical plants but who's also educated and has substance to his videos! Glad to subscribe!
So yes, $200 is quite expensive but I guess it's what it's still going for here in Canada unless the bubble really has burst. Got myself runners of both the peruvian form and amazonas for 70CAD a few months ago but I had to look around a LONG time to get that deal. My peruvian form now has 2 leaves and I'm really excited to get it bigger and then share its runners with other people!
Hey, lol totally read your name as "Naked Girls". Well played...
And nice work, re: getting peru and amazonas. I haven't seen many people into the non-peruvian form, so it's awesome to meet a fellow obliqua nut haha. And yeah, they seem to really go off once they start going, so I think you're in for a ride. I got mine a few months ago too and it's already onto its 3rd new leaf in my care (5 total). The big one in that video. I'm in love! Definitely want to grow it up a moss pole and get it LARRRRRGE and in charge.
Pete, thank you so much for the lesson on australian mice and taxonomy. Loved hearing it. Keep up with your great videos.
My pleasure, mate! Hope you enjoyed it :D Will try to cover more stuff like this in the future in more depth.
@@petevsplants7516 pls do! You’ve got some graduate students watching! (Me haha)
@@brianschuster4235 Oh nice! Studying?
Really liked the mouse story!!! The plants are neat too 😊
Thanks, mate! Gotta love rats and plants haha
Love your videos, especially when you have scientific information to share 🥰. Always good to learn something new every day 🥰
Thanks so much, Debra. I probably need to brush up on a lot of this stuff but will try to talk more about it in the future :D
Nicely done, Pete. 😊
Enjoyed listening to this.
Cheers, James! Hopefully I can dig more into these topics in the future
An established obliqua is 30$ in my area of the US…
Its crazy i just got a wetstick for 10$ , last year that cost 100$ and its been 3 weeks and a leaf is pushing out ! I feel good about this plant so far .
I watched your obliqua wet stick - runner propagation vid and was looking for an update vid ?
They got so popular that they're now more widely available, and about $80 USD for a plant that size today in summer of '24
Absolutely fabulous video today! Loved all the info.
Cheers, Elizabeth! Where are you watching from? :D
Such an interesting video to listen to. Thank you
Cheers, mate!
That science story was so interesting, I enjoyed it very much. I've been hunting for an obliqua for a while, but my budget is not at their price point, yet.
Thanks Aileen! They're getting cheaper so I'm sure you'll have one soon :D
Such an interesting example of how things become reclassified. Very enjoyable rant. 😁
Hehe cheers, Julia :D
Australian native mice are so cool. I found a book in Borders once that had all the species in it and it's still one of my favourite books. Sadly many have gone extinct since that book was published and that's greatly disturbing.
Oh nice! Is this the one by Breed? I think that was my bible at uni haha
Very interesting chat. Thanks
Woahh $200 still! Great vid Pete!
Haha not any more, definitely
Really interesting and informative about the taxonomy. Talk more about it if you want to, it's fascinating. Thank You.
Cheers, Meriel :D I'll try to keep yacking about the sciencey stuff :D
I hope you see this comment even though this is a bit of an older video now, I loved hearing about taxonomy and native Australian species. I'm in Queensland and like choosing native tropical plants where possible, but I've found there's not a lot of information out there about native tropical/house plants. Seeing as you've got the biology background, I would love to see more info on native plants from you!
Hey Chloe. I still read all the comments hehe the channel isn't too big and out of control yet. I'll try to do more on native plants in the future :)
Legit I have a love/hate relationship with members of the Monstera genus. The taxonomy around them is cloudy, and that’s cool AND a nightmare.
See, the problem is, you missed he oblivious. Everyone knows if it lives outside, it’s a Rat. Mice live inside! Depending where they found it, it could be two different species. In the tent, mouse, in the field, rat. (Vague ‘Scary Movie’ reference)
What’s the mix you have those in? Standard aroid mix? Do you find Obliqua any more susceptible to root rot or is that just plant myth?
Just got my first rooted cutting. Got it in perlite right now with some Esqueleto cuttings. Decent roots. Need to decide what to do. Right now I’m leaning toward my aroid mix going heavier on the cocopeat for extra good drainage.
In scientific terms, rats and mice are both rats (like frogs and toads are both frogs). However, the common names with 'mouse' in them will be used for any rat
This is so fascinating
Cheers, Agnes :D
We love unboxing videos 😊
Haha who doesn't!? :D
I but a wet stick for 150 here in Usa and the fast grow my have 6 leave waiting for runners
Ah so it's around the same price there still? It must be getting nice and large now :D
It’s a beauty 🌿
:D who doesn't love obliqua!
Thank you. Very good video. I would think Enid Offelter had one before Mr. Mitty.
Yeah, I believe she did. I think he says in the video he went to her place after a hurricane and found a HUGE pot of them haha
Can you name them ? All that u have in the photo
Well done on this video! It’s like you wrote a chapter in a book! (Hint hint!) It would sell!
I got three rooted cuttings for 15 USD
Hehe nice work! How the times have changed.
A obliqa like yours would be Sadley only $100 USD here or $154 Australian dollar I bought a runner with two nodes for $45 and now if I wanted to sell them I could get $20 MAX, it is crazy..
Yeah, prices have started diving after Covid I think :(
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Weird, wonder what happened?
Yeah interesting discussion! Taxonomy is such a rabbit hole, it leads to some quite philosophical musings because in many ways its pretty arbitrary...the species hybridising thing for instance. If two species can create viable offspring, then I guess you either have to look at the definition of 'species' and remove the 'cannot breed viable offspring' part of the definition, or you have to lose some of the morphology aspects of the definition, or... In the end maybe a lot of it is human distinctions as well as biological ones in many cases!
The obliqua story is interesting, morphologically they are really pretty different looking...!
I've also heard / seen that the thaumatophyllum thing is a bit conflicted and that may change again, putting everything back under the philodendron umbrella!
Yeah, I think it just goes to show how messy/complex biology is and that not everything fits into easy discrete boxes hehe
@@petevsplants7516 Yeah absolutely, nature is infinitely complex and infinitely interesting! :D
#scienceiscoolaf
Hehe it is :D
I want to help you unwrap that so bad 😂
Haha I can always use a hand!
@@petevsplants7516 Hey I’ve got 2 of those 😅 Thanks for the reply! I really enjoyed your story! Micks video was very enlightening thanks for the recommendation. My love for plants has turned into a love for botany ♥️
🐭🐁🐀
Hehe long live the rats!
Ooooops yes it is sorry
:D glad it's sorted!
I paid $200 for a wetstick haha
Fingers crossed!
@@petevsplants7516 thank you from New Zealand where indoor plants can be the same price as a deposit for a house 😂😂.
Good to know that obliqua might be renamed. Americans can't pronounce obliqua at all. The new species should be named something Amricans can pronounce like hamburger
Lolllll Obleeka? :D
200 Dollars ?!?! LMFAO
I got mine for 10 and it was bigger.
Sigh! And these are unlikely the unicorn olbiqua. The holy grail obliqua. There are many accepted forms floating around and I have one myself, purchased from a reputable seller who was transparent, that although it an accepted form of obliqua, it's not the unicorn. I paid $12 aus for it. Im sorry but they dont look like the unicorn.
Wow, $12AUD?! That's crazy!
@@petevsplants7516 something around that. Thats because it was an honest seller, actually a professional business/grower that has been in the business for years. The only reason the unicorn costs as much as it does is because its so rare. And from what I've been told by those in the know, is that most in the industry dont believe the real unicorn is even in Australia atm. Therefore spending anything over normal retail plant price on an obliqua is crazy. The real unicorn grows exceptionally slowly and is a drama queen, so that also lends to its rareness.
Really cool video! I think Marco Cedeño is from Costa Rica, I follow his insta and also Mick( I think he is from the USA but they are friends I think) they are so passionate about monsteras and taxonomy, impressive work!
Ah okay, cool. Yeah it'll be so awesome to know more about Monstera and Philodendron as the years go by.