Jack - enjoyed your content - especially focused on DF83. You up-sold me from DF64 to DF83 at 2x price - kind of a big deal. Really enjoy your detailed but coherent insights in such a well-conceived package. You have a skill and facility that falls well within the class of your well-known and respected peers. Keep up the great work!
I really learned to appreciate the contents of your videos Jack. You seem to have quite a good palate and easily verbalize the nuances, characteristics and differences between two cups, which is easier said than done ;) What I keep from this comparison is that both these grinders do great with roasts across the spectrum, for espresso. Seems the Shurikones actually do even better than just great! The MC5 may very well be the most versatile espresso grinder at the moment. Your DF83 videos have convinced me that it's the right grinder for me. Thanks 👍
Thank you for watching. I verbalise it easily, possibly because I have limited vocabulary 😛. Since I started my coffee adventure I have learned a lot. The sense of taste is like a muscle- we all have them, but the more you train the better they become. I bought myself The Flavour Thesaurus book to help with my adventure. You should be happy with DF83- really good value for money and tastes great as well.
Nice to watch you talking about MC5 again! 🙂I'll need to wait until May to try your experiment at home. Hopefully when my holiday in January finished I'll get the P100 delivery first.
Yes, I think so. With Kafatek you pay for that attention to details, burrs alignment and so on. DF83 with SSP burrs is no longer a mid range grinder and it will have to fight with big boys equipment. I strongly feel it can do it or at least it won’t be far behind.
@@mycoffeeshow111 I have noticed that in your two comparsions with MC 5, i.e. Niche vs MC 5 and DF83 Itamill vs MC 5, it seems you were so amazed and impressed by the espresso produced by MC 5. But I can't see anything similar in your comparsion videos of Flat MAX and DF 83. Therefore, I am more inclined to buy a MC 5. However, it would be great if I can watch more comparsions on MC 5, e.g. MC 5 vs Flat MAX; MC 5 vs DF83 HU... BTW, thank you so much for your videos.
@@photobillyli with MC5 it was a love for the first sip. Therefore I had very high expectations of Max and initially I was disappointed. It is the best flat burr grinder I own, but the improvement in taste is much smaller than the price tag would suggest.
Merry christmas Jack, after all the bad luck you had at the start of your youtube adventure, getting the DF83 for £600 is a great result. I am a bit jealous lol.👏👍😎🇬🇧
Thank you! It would be even cheaper but when I got it the £vs $ was really low. I don’t think I have any warranty on this grinder while you would get 2 years from Bella Barista. Merry Christmas!
Glad to see another positive review of the MC5. I have one on order, waiting for a May 23 delivery. Have you noticed that the MC5 typically delivers what you experienced on the video, a good combination of texture and clarity?
@@caffeinated_slacker thank you and congratulations! Not sure about other high end grinders, but MC5 is awesome. Obviously you still need to spend some time to dial in your shot, but the results can be mind blowing. I remember when I got it, I had a coffee beans I knew really well, and couldn’t believe I can get so much more flavours with this grinder. Great body and clarity. Pour over though is average at best.
@@mycoffeeshow111 That’s really great to hear, thank you. There really aren’t a ton of reviews for the new MC5, so it was a bit of an act of faith to pre-order one. I figured it would be easy to sell at full purchase price in the unlikely event I end up not liking it. Luckily I’m mostly an espresso drinker, at least 99% of the time, so, filter or immersion performance isn’t important to me. Love your show, by the way, informative with a fun energy.
My DF83 funnel also rattles, it looks like they semi-thoughtfully included a silicon gasket on the funnel to prevent that from happening, however it's too tiny to actually do anything. Using the same funnel on a DF64, it doesn't seem to rattle, or not as much anyway, so it seems to vibrate less. So they just need to tweak the DF83 to vibrate less (Eureka somehow did it on the Oro Single Dose grinder) or even easier tweak the design of the silicon gasket on the funnel so it fits a bit more snug on a portafilter. My DF83 doesn't jump or slip around, you might want to clean the coffee grounds off your counter and wipe the feet with a damp cloth and it might fix that, unless 220v (you're in 220v land right?) DF83s just start with more Torque maybe.
I think they wanted to be as cost effective as possible. I am sure future versions will solve some of these issues. Overall, for the price I don’t have many complaints. The electric wire is the biggest annoyance. We have proper electricity here- 220. Maybe that is why it costs so much
Haha ! There will be a Christmas special video coming soon. I love flat white with oat milk but today I only had one as I try to dial in geisha coffee and it would be a sacrilege to mix it with milk.
After I got VBM Domabar Super with pressure profiling was thinking of upgrading my Specialita 55 with SD mode. Was looking for a big conical burr grinder with low or adjustable RPM. Are there any good options under 1k-1,5k? Only found MACAP m7d. Only drink espresso made drinks, cappuccino in the morning and Americano after lounch. What grinder would you recommend? Besides mentioned 83mm version of df64v with lab sweet burrs might be interesting.
How do you like your Domabar? At one point I was considering it but went for Crem One. We don’t have that many conical grinders, especially in that mid range price range. Even if you consider Key grinder, which is expensive, lots of people say it’s not that good. One obvious choice could be the Niche, at330 rpm. I would still recommend DF83 or wait for DF64 V- I should have it here at some point. So far I am not a fan of 64mm cast silver burrs: ua-cam.com/video/75zddfqOT2k/v-deo.html
@@mycoffeeshow111 so far I just used standard 9 bar for dark roasted coffee and another preinfusion 15 second 9 bar with drop to 6 bar totalling to 18g coffee 36g for 20 seconds since the first drop. The second one is good with light roast cappuccino, but meh with dark roast cappuccino. Although the dark roast Americano is nice. It's good to have the tools, but as my first machine I struggle a bit to get best consistent result. After I master it might try the turbo shot. Is Nich a big step up? I also worry a bit with letting go of Microadjusment since I usually switch in between 0,5-1 steps. I feel df83v when it comes out might have everything I need)))
@@Val_Smith Every year there will be a new version or new must have grinder/tool. Personally I don’t think RPM control is that important. The Niche would be an improvement especially with work flow plus it is super easy to use. Taste wise, it would be better but don’t think it would be a game changer. You may also consider a HG-2 from Weber Workshops- you will have a full control over RPM
@@mycoffeeshow111 As far as workflow I don't have a problem with specialita using my kit with silicon bellows and rdt. So my focus is taste and better puck consistency. Heard conical are better for puck stability couse of more fines. Also heard lab sweet cast burrs are the next best thing. Df83 V2 also has an anti static plasma technology like fellow v2. DF64v design wise with the magnets, brushless motor and I can use my hg-1 clone bell dosing cup))) I just feel if I"ll go for DF grinders I don't want to feel I missed out on getting best of both worlds: bigger burrs, and get rid of the static. As far as hand grinders I don't feel you can have as much consistency. Most people using those I know DIY a motor for it.
@@Val_Smith I agree with pretty much everything you said. My first serious grinder was Specialita and I modified it for single dosing as well. Great grinder for the price.
I’m holding out on buying a df83 for when they come out with the ssp cast burrs. I’d buy one now and install later but i just can’t be bothered installing and aligning burrs later on lol
I see your point. I hate aligning burrs myself. Would happily pay £100 if someone did it for me (I would just record it for a video 😁). Do you think cast burrs will be so much better? The 64mm I have are great for pour overs but average for espresso
@@mycoffeeshow111 I didn't love the 64mm SSP burrs either but they might need seasoning before they're good. I didn't think they did well for grinding coarser for aeropress either. I did get a chance to try a shot from the original 80mm sweet lab burrs at my buds roaster / espresso shop and it was pretty nice. Good natural sweetness, decent clarity and body. The 64mm SSP cast was nothing like that at least, pre-seasoned. So not sure if they can pull off something better or not with the 83mm burr size, maybe that geometry does just work better on a larger burr and doesn't scale down nicely.
Yea idk honestly, that’s the other reason i want to hold out until they come around and get some feedback on it before i drop 1k on something that may not even be that great compared to what’s already out there lol
@@mycoffeeshow111 yeah so much coffee Innovation lately. And before I went 10 years without upgrading anything. But I think if you have good gear and you like the results you're getting it is good to master what you have instead of getting every new coffee Gadget out there because it doesn't seem like it's ever going to end.
Hey Jack, Just a quick question. What made you pick the mc5 over the max? I know the max is designed for light roast mainly, how do you find the mc5 with different roasts and is the shots more traditional or modern?
Hi, I have recently done a proper review:ua-cam.com/video/XogV9yrsEyM/v-deo.html I went for MC5 as I was curious about this dual grinding system. Also, it was cheaper option. It works perfectly but sometimes I miss some sharpness in the flavour. That is why I ordered Max 2 which should arrive in May.
@@mycoffeeshow111 not until May unfortunately, I can’t wait! Your review and Denis’ recommendation convinced me to get it. I’m sure it will be a nice upgrade from my Niche with my DE1Pro. Was just feeling like I should have gone for the flat max, although I do drink mostly flat whites…
@@richardshaw7449 if you only want to have 1 high end grinder, MC5 is the best option. Having said that, I already pre ordered Max for May next year. That should be a perfect combo. I also want to use them as a benchmark for all other grinders I will compare on the channel.
@@mycoffeeshow111 Some people like having a hopper and don't single dose, not sure why but they exist! I recently heard some people were having issues when they tried using the hopper, it clogs up pretty fast, seems like a pretty silly fail if that's the case. I haven't tried it myself.
@@mycoffeeshow111 How much are the burrs there? I'm still thinking of jumping on it, but I'm also tempted to get the P100 SSP HU, or EH1 Core, but I need to save up for them. Not sure how big of a difference it is. I'm currently using HG1 and KEY, I love my HG1, but KEY is very inconsistent, I think I have a faulty unit.
@@yskwong I think the ssp 83 burrs are around £300. So many people mentioned they are not entirely happy with Key grinder. It looks soo good. Do you think that those conical burrs are misaligned or something with the engine?
@@mycoffeeshow111 Yes, they're misaligned. My HG1 is so good, I've used it for 3 years, loved it so much that I decided to jump on the KEY, because I thought it's literally the same thing with motor, but I was very wrong. The shafts are not aligned properly, wobbling, and my grounds are not consistent.
I would love to do it but don’t have SSP burrs. Still considering if I should get HU or wait for some new options. I heard that 83 Lab Sweet are coming which should complement my setup nicely. In May I should also get Flat Max which should work nicely with MC5 as a pair.
Have you tried using the DF83 without using the bellows? Seems like low enough retention that you don't 'need' to. I've been meaning to try it that way and see if there's any issues, like clogging up or inconsistent doses but haven't gotten around to it, maybe just too used to pumping the bellows :D
Hello! New to the channel. Thank you so much for this comparison. I am just wondering if Kafatek offers an MC5 that can handle commercial loads, motor and burr wise. Would you know anything about this? Additionally, if you ever pick up the SSP HU burrs for the DF83, I'd love to know how they compare to the Kafatek. Check out the Timemore Sculptor 078. I am receiving one in a few days and I am very excited for its pourover output. Lastly, if you like handgrinding for your pourover, please consider picking up the 1Zpresso Zp6. I promise you it is the best conical burr handgrinder for pourover if you are looking for a more unimodal grind distribution. I would say it is 5-10% better than C40, and 64mm SSP Brew Burrs v1 (original version of the MP with slightly lower fines) is around 5% better than Zp6. If you have any friends in Taiwan, it is only around $150 compared to $199 internationally (though I think the $199 comes with shipping?).
Thank you very much! I think Kafatek is mostly for home use. It takes about 20sec to grind 18g which would be too slow. You can ask on Kafatek forum for more details. I think I will wait for the new 83mm cast burrs- this could be interesting. I am considering to buy Timemore 64s on Kickstarter to review. Possibly we will be getting new DF64 V soon as well. As for hand grinders, maybe at some point I will get it but have to sell some I already have- not enough space in my tiny flat.
Jack - enjoyed your content - especially focused on DF83. You up-sold me from DF64 to DF83 at 2x price - kind of a big deal. Really enjoy your detailed but coherent insights in such a well-conceived package. You have a skill and facility that falls well within the class of your well-known and respected peers. Keep up the great work!
Thank you for your kind words. You should be very happy with DF83. Please let me know how you like it, when you get it.
All the best!
I really learned to appreciate the contents of your videos Jack. You seem to have quite a good palate and easily verbalize the nuances, characteristics and differences between two cups, which is easier said than done ;)
What I keep from this comparison is that both these grinders do great with roasts across the spectrum, for espresso. Seems the Shurikones actually do even better than just great!
The MC5 may very well be the most versatile espresso grinder at the moment.
Your DF83 videos have convinced me that it's the right grinder for me. Thanks 👍
Thank you for watching. I verbalise it easily, possibly because I have limited vocabulary 😛. Since I started my coffee adventure I have learned a lot. The sense of taste is like a muscle- we all have them, but the more you train the better they become. I bought myself The Flavour Thesaurus book to help with my adventure.
You should be happy with DF83- really good value for money and tastes great as well.
Nice to watch you talking about MC5 again! 🙂I'll need to wait until May to try your experiment at home. Hopefully when my holiday in January finished I'll get the P100 delivery first.
Are there any videos comparing MC5 with P100? Definitely great 2 grinders to have.
@@mycoffeeshow111 Not the grinders as far as I remember. But Brian talked in one of his videos about Shurikone and SSP burrs.
Amazing that the DF83 can compete with a grinder that is 4x the price of it. Once there are Ssp burrs in the DF83 it will be even closer.
Yes, I think so. With Kafatek you pay for that attention to details, burrs alignment and so on. DF83 with SSP burrs is no longer a mid range grinder and it will have to fight with big boys equipment. I strongly feel it can do it or at least it won’t be far behind.
Could you please make a video on comparing Df83 HU with MC 5?? Please🙏🙏
Sure. Not that much difference between Itamill and HU burrs imo but why not. Thx for watching!
@@mycoffeeshow111 I have noticed that in your two comparsions with MC 5, i.e. Niche vs MC 5 and DF83 Itamill vs MC 5, it seems you were so amazed and impressed by the espresso produced by MC 5. But I can't see anything similar in your comparsion videos of Flat MAX and DF 83. Therefore, I am more inclined to buy a MC 5. However, it would be great if I can watch more comparsions on MC 5, e.g. MC 5 vs Flat MAX; MC 5 vs DF83 HU... BTW, thank you so much for your videos.
@@photobillyli with MC5 it was a love for the first sip. Therefore I had very high expectations of Max and initially I was disappointed. It is the best flat burr grinder I own, but the improvement in taste is much smaller than the price tag would suggest.
Merry christmas Jack, after all the bad luck you had at the start of your youtube adventure, getting the DF83 for £600 is a great result. I am a bit jealous lol.👏👍😎🇬🇧
Thank you! It would be even cheaper but when I got it the £vs $ was really low. I don’t think I have any warranty on this grinder while you would get 2 years from Bella Barista.
Merry Christmas!
Hello jack , is there any video how to use DF64 and how to attach every piece for the first time after opening ?
Hi, check this one ua-cam.com/video/BxPESW_X-IQ/v-deo.html
@@mycoffeeshow111 i will check it nw thank u dear
Glad to see another positive review of the MC5. I have one on order, waiting for a May 23 delivery. Have you noticed that the MC5 typically delivers what you experienced on the video, a good combination of texture and clarity?
@@caffeinated_slacker thank you and congratulations! Not sure about other high end grinders, but MC5 is awesome. Obviously you still need to spend some time to dial in your shot, but the results can be mind blowing. I remember when I got it, I had a coffee beans I knew really well, and couldn’t believe I can get so much more flavours with this grinder. Great body and clarity. Pour over though is average at best.
@@mycoffeeshow111 That’s really great to hear, thank you. There really aren’t a ton of reviews for the new MC5, so it was a bit of an act of faith to pre-order one. I figured it would be easy to sell at full purchase price in the unlikely event I end up not liking it. Luckily I’m mostly an espresso drinker, at least 99% of the time, so, filter or immersion performance isn’t important to me. Love your show, by the way, informative with a fun energy.
My DF83 funnel also rattles, it looks like they semi-thoughtfully included a silicon gasket on the funnel to prevent that from happening, however it's too tiny to actually do anything.
Using the same funnel on a DF64, it doesn't seem to rattle, or not as much anyway, so it seems to vibrate less. So they just need to tweak the DF83 to vibrate less (Eureka somehow did it on the Oro Single Dose grinder) or even easier tweak the design of the silicon gasket on the funnel so it fits a bit more snug on a portafilter.
My DF83 doesn't jump or slip around, you might want to clean the coffee grounds off your counter and wipe the feet with a damp cloth and it might fix that, unless 220v (you're in 220v land right?) DF83s just start with more Torque maybe.
I think they wanted to be as cost effective as possible. I am sure future versions will solve some of these issues. Overall, for the price I don’t have many complaints. The electric wire is the biggest annoyance.
We have proper electricity here- 220. Maybe that is why it costs so much
You know it must be a Christmas miracle when Jack does a milk based drink 🤣 Flat Whites are my personal fav 😋
Haha ! There will be a Christmas special video coming soon. I love flat white with oat milk but today I only had one as I try to dial in geisha coffee and it would be a sacrilege to mix it with milk.
After I got VBM Domabar Super with pressure profiling was thinking of upgrading my Specialita 55 with SD mode. Was looking for a big conical burr grinder with low or adjustable RPM. Are there any good options under 1k-1,5k? Only found MACAP m7d. Only drink espresso made drinks, cappuccino in the morning and Americano after lounch. What grinder would you recommend? Besides mentioned 83mm version of df64v with lab sweet burrs might be interesting.
How do you like your Domabar? At one point I was considering it but went for Crem One. We don’t have that many conical grinders, especially in that mid range price range. Even if you consider Key grinder, which is expensive, lots of people say it’s not that good. One obvious choice could be the Niche, at330 rpm. I would still recommend DF83 or wait for DF64 V- I should have it here at some point. So far I am not a fan of 64mm cast silver burrs: ua-cam.com/video/75zddfqOT2k/v-deo.html
@@mycoffeeshow111 so far I just used standard 9 bar for dark roasted coffee and another preinfusion 15 second 9 bar with drop to 6 bar totalling to 18g coffee 36g for 20 seconds since the first drop. The second one is good with light roast cappuccino, but meh with dark roast cappuccino. Although the dark roast Americano is nice. It's good to have the tools, but as my first machine I struggle a bit to get best consistent result. After I master it might try the turbo shot. Is Nich a big step up? I also worry a bit with letting go of Microadjusment since I usually switch in between 0,5-1 steps. I feel df83v when it comes out might have everything I need)))
@@Val_Smith Every year there will be a new version or new must have grinder/tool. Personally I don’t think RPM control is that important. The Niche would be an improvement especially with work flow plus it is super easy to use. Taste wise, it would be better but don’t think it would be a game changer.
You may also consider a HG-2 from Weber Workshops- you will have a full control over RPM
@@mycoffeeshow111 As far as workflow I don't have a problem with specialita using my kit with silicon bellows and rdt. So my focus is taste and better puck consistency. Heard conical are better for puck stability couse of more fines. Also heard lab sweet cast burrs are the next best thing. Df83 V2 also has an anti static plasma technology like fellow v2. DF64v design wise with the magnets, brushless motor and I can use my hg-1 clone bell dosing cup))) I just feel if I"ll go for DF grinders I don't want to feel I missed out on getting best of both worlds: bigger burrs, and get rid of the static. As far as hand grinders I don't feel you can have as much consistency. Most people using those I know DIY a motor for it.
@@Val_Smith I agree with pretty much everything you said. My first serious grinder was Specialita and I modified it for single dosing as well. Great grinder for the price.
I’m holding out on buying a df83 for when they come out with the ssp cast burrs. I’d buy one now and install later but i just can’t be bothered installing and aligning burrs later on lol
I see your point. I hate aligning burrs myself. Would happily pay £100 if someone did it for me (I would just record it for a video 😁).
Do you think cast burrs will be so much better? The 64mm I have are great for pour overs but average for espresso
@@mycoffeeshow111 I didn't love the 64mm SSP burrs either but they might need seasoning before they're good. I didn't think they did well for grinding coarser for aeropress either. I did get a chance to try a shot from the original 80mm sweet lab burrs at my buds roaster / espresso shop and it was pretty nice. Good natural sweetness, decent clarity and body. The 64mm SSP cast was nothing like that at least, pre-seasoned. So not sure if they can pull off something better or not with the 83mm burr size, maybe that geometry does just work better on a larger burr and doesn't scale down nicely.
Yea idk honestly, that’s the other reason i want to hold out until they come around and get some feedback on it before i drop 1k on something that may not even be that great compared to what’s already out there lol
@@Jahloveipraise looks like every year we have next new awesome must have grinder/burr set/tool that is soo much better than last years 😛
@@mycoffeeshow111 yeah so much coffee Innovation lately. And before I went 10 years without upgrading anything. But I think if you have good gear and you like the results you're getting it is good to master what you have instead of getting every new coffee Gadget out there because it doesn't seem like it's ever going to end.
Hey Jack,
Just a quick question. What made you pick the mc5 over the max? I know the max is designed for light roast mainly, how do you find the mc5 with different roasts and is the shots more traditional or modern?
Hi, I have recently done a proper review:ua-cam.com/video/XogV9yrsEyM/v-deo.html
I went for MC5 as I was curious about this dual grinding system. Also, it was cheaper option. It works perfectly but sometimes I miss some sharpness in the flavour. That is why I ordered Max 2 which should arrive in May.
@@mycoffeeshow111 cheers, how much did shipping cost to the UK?
@@navidqowsi5618 If I remember correctly, $180.
@My Coffee Show thank you
This makes me happy that I preordered an MC5! 😅
Congratulations! When are you expecting to get it? I am sure you will love it.
@@mycoffeeshow111 not until May unfortunately, I can’t wait! Your review and Denis’ recommendation convinced me to get it. I’m sure it will be a nice upgrade from my Niche with my DE1Pro. Was just feeling like I should have gone for the flat max, although I do drink mostly flat whites…
@@richardshaw7449 if you only want to have 1 high end grinder, MC5 is the best option. Having said that, I already pre ordered Max for May next year. That should be a perfect combo. I also want to use them as a benchmark for all other grinders I will compare on the channel.
@@mycoffeeshow111 I will look forward to your comparison! :)
"You can also put a hopper... but why would you!? " lol :D
Not sure why they included it with single dose grinder.
@@mycoffeeshow111 Some people like having a hopper and don't single dose, not sure why but they exist!
I recently heard some people were having issues when they tried using the hopper, it clogs up pretty fast, seems like a pretty silly fail if that's the case. I haven't tried it myself.
@@BensCoffeeRants Maybe they wanted those grinders to be used at small coffee shops as well ?
@@mycoffeeshow111 I don't know. I'm curious how well it would hold up in a commercial environment. I'm skeptical.
Try 83mm SSP HU, and later, the Lab Sweet / Cast Burrs. See if it helps?
Possibly I will get Lab Sweet. My budget is limited though and this channel earns just about enough money for the coffee beans that I use.
@@mycoffeeshow111 How much are the burrs there? I'm still thinking of jumping on it, but I'm also tempted to get the P100 SSP HU, or EH1 Core, but I need to save up for them. Not sure how big of a difference it is. I'm currently using HG1 and KEY, I love my HG1, but KEY is very inconsistent, I think I have a faulty unit.
@@yskwong I think the ssp 83 burrs are around £300. So many people mentioned they are not entirely happy with Key grinder. It looks soo good. Do you think that those conical burrs are misaligned or something with the engine?
@@mycoffeeshow111 Yes, they're misaligned. My HG1 is so good, I've used it for 3 years, loved it so much that I decided to jump on the KEY, because I thought it's literally the same thing with motor, but I was very wrong. The shafts are not aligned properly, wobbling, and my grounds are not consistent.
@@yskwong any luck dealing with Weber Workshop about this issue?
MC5 vs DF83 with ssp burrs please
I would love to do it but don’t have SSP burrs. Still considering if I should get HU or wait for some new options. I heard that 83 Lab Sweet are coming which should complement my setup nicely. In May I should also get Flat Max which should work nicely with MC5 as a pair.
Have you tried using the DF83 without using the bellows? Seems like low enough retention that you don't 'need' to. I've been meaning to try it that way and see if there's any issues, like clogging up or inconsistent doses but haven't gotten around to it, maybe just too used to pumping the bellows :D
I have not tried it but it would make sense, at least in theory.
I stopped using the bellows for a while now (with Rdt) and only push it before switching beans. The retention is quite low.
@@louisazou412Oh nice, thanks. Glad it works well even without a bellows.
@@BensCoffeeRants It makes the workflow very smooth. Just rdt and grind directly into the basket, no more other fussy steps!
@@louisazou412 Nice but No RDT for me I don't think the df83 needs it unless you're grinding light roast chaffy coffee coarsely for pour over maybe.
Hello! New to the channel. Thank you so much for this comparison. I am just wondering if Kafatek offers an MC5 that can handle commercial loads, motor and burr wise. Would you know anything about this?
Additionally, if you ever pick up the SSP HU burrs for the DF83, I'd love to know how they compare to the Kafatek. Check out the Timemore Sculptor 078. I am receiving one in a few days and I am very excited for its pourover output.
Lastly, if you like handgrinding for your pourover, please consider picking up the 1Zpresso Zp6. I promise you it is the best conical burr handgrinder for pourover if you are looking for a more unimodal grind distribution. I would say it is 5-10% better than C40, and 64mm SSP Brew Burrs v1 (original version of the MP with slightly lower fines) is around 5% better than Zp6. If you have any friends in Taiwan, it is only around $150 compared to $199 internationally (though I think the $199 comes with shipping?).
Thank you very much! I think Kafatek is mostly for home use. It takes about 20sec to grind 18g which would be too slow. You can ask on Kafatek forum for more details.
I think I will wait for the new 83mm cast burrs- this could be interesting.
I am considering to buy Timemore 64s on Kickstarter to review. Possibly we will be getting new DF64 V soon as well.
As for hand grinders, maybe at some point I will get it but have to sell some I already have- not enough space in my tiny flat.