@@bhaveshtochabbra6853 Typically you need impulse response (I know it sounds complicated but its really easy and it'll sound more realistic and nice). But there is cab in ableton stock.
another thing, closed 7th voicings are known to be very difficult or sometimes impossible on guitar, so if you're going for a convincing guitar effect, maybe open the voicings more. So instead of CEGB for a major 7th, you have CEBG or something like that. space between the notes helps to sell the effect. this is because guitar strings are tuned a fourth apart (with 1 exception.)
ye, I think its good to try and match the voicings that would be available to actually play on guitar. so I would just set my open EADGBE first and then "fret" them around as needed, then remove the ones I didnt "strum"
True. I learned this when my guitarist friend consulted me about chord progression. After I gave him some ideas he had trouble playing it, because my chords are based on piano playing. Took him a minute to rearrange the notes to his liking.
Also try spreading out the chord voicing around 2-3 octaves. Guitar strings are spread out by 5-6 semitones, you can't play traditional piano chords on a guitar because you can't play 2 notes on the same string, at the same time. You can also repeat any of the Root, 3rd or 5th notes in a higher octave because guitar chords are usually more than 3 notes and the shapes typically have repeating notes spread out an octave to fill it out. Normally an extension like a 7th or 9th will be only 1 note in the chord though. Just mess around with your midi chords, spread them out and it'll sound a lot more realistic than traditional piano shapes.
The extraordinary thing about the guitar is that you can play the same note in multiple positions on the neck. For instance, an e, (4th string, 2nd fret) is the same note and pitch as (5th string, 7th fret) AND 6th string, 12th fret).
Mental kill is my favorite, I'm listening to it everyday now since it came out ! I actually thought they were real guitars and I'm a guiter player.would like to do another 1 on 1 lesson with you sometime from Canada. You told me to use real drums last private ,I actually bought a drum kit haha
for metal its basically powerchords everywhere (root fifth and sometimes octave) soloing is mostly up and down the scale- unlike a jazz solo- with tons of guitar specific things like bends tapping pulloffs hammerons so yea you will need a real guitarist for that
@@kormendymatyas8667 you can only get so far with a fake guitar and will quickly run into limitations. It can sound great for electronic music but will be very crippling with metal or rock
As someone who very happily paid ableton all my money for the suite, I am always so forgetful of the fact that I own like a billion packs that I just never installed.
Honestly, there are so many things in ableton suite that a lot of people don't use because they just google plugins instead of trying to actually learn all of the ways to use the software they paid real money for. It's really refreshing to challenge yourself by forcing yourself to use only stock plugins and learn to make the fullest out of your choice of daw.
@@beseakos I was that kind of man. Now besides some external synths I am using only what I have bundled in live suite. EQ, compression, saturation. Even limiting but I find Live 10 limiter not the best. Still, Live stock stuff is great and very capable. No need to look for anything else unless there is some specific need for. Definitely no need for beginners, all is there
Dude this is actually sick, I thought it was a real guitar when I listened to it. Your album reminds me of opeth with electronic music. Super dope man.
I LOVE YOU!!! Thanks for putting this out there. I've been looking a way for make fake guitar sounds cause I will NEVER play one, no offense to anyone who plays. You're funny as heck and you're an excellent producer. Just thought you should know.
You a goddamn genius bro, every video i learn some new shit. This keeps me exctied to keep making music and getting better. Thanks for the service you provide.
Never tried to fuck around with a MIDI guitar because I was afraid of how unrealistic it would sound. I just used loops and got over the fact that they weren't my own riffs. After watching this video, however, I think I'll try and create a track with a MIDI guitar.
And if you want some of the best engines on the market for electric guitars and e-bass, (7-9-Strings too), the Shreddage 3 series with a free, limited Kontakt demo sure satisfies a bunch of requirements. Impact Soundworks has some real bangers.
@@Spiritbeats69 yeah, I'd like to see tutorials composition wise and so on.. Like few examples how to make metal.. I have some songs but they don't feel right all the way thru.
@@Spiritbeats69 You should check out my productions. Shreddage is the only thing I use for chords and leads and I get incredible results from them. Just listen to one of my songs and you'll hear it. Links available upon request.
As you were talking about the sustain pedal I was thinking: "Is there going to be a foot-cam gag?" This dingus doesn't disappoint. Like for the comedy alone.
Thats because hes soundshaping according to the track he's applying the guitar too. If he didnt quantize it, it may sound out of context with the 'electronic' elements. If he didnt apply OTT then it wouldn't come through the mix enough. I understand your point if he was doing something more traditional however.
@@Reeceline sure quantizing can be good if done very carefully. But for OTT there’s never an excuse. It’s just bad and most people use it out of habit. It ruins the soul of your tracks.
@@LIFEAFTEREVERYTHING I simply explained why I think he made the choices he did. I didnt state that OTT sounds good. Its also ironic that you assume I use it when in fact I dont even own it. Well done on the passive aggressive tone 👍
@@lucmermans37 fair enough and thanks for a balanced argument. Ive stated above I dont use OTT and can only go by the context at which he seemed to use it here. Quantizing (or lack of) comes with experience. I suspect he felt it made more sense to quantize given its a tutorial and the average viewer may not have the timing skills he has.
OTT is necessary sometimes to cut thru the mix, it sucks but it’s true However I do agree with you on the quantize part, it took the human element out of the track, no matter how skilled no guitar player can sound that robotic, the slight imperfections is what makes playing an instrument sound so unique
Impressive mastery of Ableton. thx. Sustain pedal ? Isn't there anything in Ableton that will sustain the notes without having to buy external hardware ?
WJAT absit a HARDWARE MIDI CONTROLLER where I employ my STRUMMING SKILLS, aimed at all my VST Sample Libraries, AMPLE and IMPACT SOUNDWORKS and on and on. I'm a KEYS player, but also a guitar player. I just want a STICK that I can STRUM ON. Any thoughts? It's just, for me, HELL is programming in all this tedious strumming biz. thanks
Is this actually getting a guitar fingerstylist closer to writing out tabs in Guitar Pro 8 by playing in Abelton ? Searching n not finding the holy grail of writing out tabs the easy way. I’ve never tried Abelton!
Not a single person in the comments pointing out that what he calls a "hammer on" is actually just a slide. I let it slide the first time, but then he said it like 3 more times.
you rocked that sound too much, congrats. I would like to know how to make a guitar in power chords with distortion and some palm mute, do you know how to do it with ableton live?
I like how he has a real guitar next to him the whole time lol
I'm watching this with a real guitar next to me as well. It's crying
Guitars make good decorations!
🤣
I play guitar and I still want to do it his way haha
This way of working with music is nice to learn music theory and expand your instruments knowledge.
The sustain pedal foot shot really got me
Me too, I had to stop the video, I was laughing so hard and loud...
id never even heard of instruments until this video.
Those toe nails cracked me up so hard I almost peed my pants like a drunken race horse. Great vid thanks for sharing.
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i dont see whats funny lol
Beautiful red toenail, painted to perfection!
🤣🤣
@@AbsoluteAbsurd ikr those red nails absolutely slay
I'm learning everyday WOWZERS!
TIP: After puting an amp in your chain, you need the cab too so it doesn't sound too aggressive
What's that? Is it available in guitar rig?
@@bhaveshtochabbra6853 try to cabinet in ableton
@@bhaveshtochabbra6853 Typically you need impulse response (I know it sounds complicated but its really easy and it'll sound more realistic and nice).
But there is cab in ableton stock.
@@ghastlyshimmer the thing is i use fl :/
@@bhaveshtochabbra6853 There are free Impulse responses and cab sim online, I'm pretty sure.
another thing, closed 7th voicings are known to be very difficult or sometimes impossible on guitar, so if you're going for a convincing guitar effect, maybe open the voicings more. So instead of CEGB for a major 7th, you have CEBG or something like that. space between the notes helps to sell the effect. this is because guitar strings are tuned a fourth apart (with 1 exception.)
Damn a fourth a part??? I didn’t know this, good looks homie
ye, I think its good to try and match the voicings that would be available to actually play on guitar. so I would just set my open EADGBE first and then "fret" them around as needed, then remove the ones I didnt "strum"
True. I learned this when my guitarist friend consulted me about chord progression. After I gave him some ideas he had trouble playing it, because my chords are based on piano playing. Took him a minute to rearrange the notes to his liking.
That's why I program in "riffer" (ample sounds built in) rather than in piano roll. Since in riffer it plays like what guitarist would do.
Great tip!
Tip: also utilize the pitch wheel to connect certain notes nearby
Also try spreading out the chord voicing around 2-3 octaves. Guitar strings are spread out by 5-6 semitones, you can't play traditional piano chords on a guitar because you can't play 2 notes on the same string, at the same time. You can also repeat any of the Root, 3rd or 5th notes in a higher octave because guitar chords are usually more than 3 notes and the shapes typically have repeating notes spread out an octave to fill it out. Normally an extension like a 7th or 9th will be only 1 note in the chord though. Just mess around with your midi chords, spread them out and it'll sound a lot more realistic than traditional piano shapes.
The extraordinary thing about the guitar is that you can play the same note in multiple positions on the neck. For instance, an e, (4th string, 2nd fret) is the same note and pitch as (5th string, 7th fret) AND 6th string, 12th fret).
i died when you filmed your foot to demonstrate how to activate the sustain pedal 🤣
Love your tutorials !
Always something helpful
Mental kill is my favorite, I'm listening to it everyday now since it came out ! I actually thought they were real guitars and I'm a guiter player.would like to do another 1 on 1 lesson with you sometime from Canada. You told me to use real drums last private ,I actually bought a drum kit haha
Now we just need a tutorial for funk rhythm and bass guitars, heavy metal chord and solo guitar, and blues slide guitar.
Every metal tone starts with a clean guitar signal ;)
My man if you're gonna be using guitar that much in your music it'll be best in the long run to just learn it yourself.
for metal its basically powerchords everywhere (root fifth and sometimes octave) soloing is mostly up and down the scale- unlike a jazz solo- with tons of guitar specific things like bends tapping pulloffs hammerons so yea you will need a real guitarist for that
@@kormendymatyas8667 you can only get so far with a fake guitar and will quickly run into limitations. It can sound great for electronic music but will be very crippling with metal or rock
have you guys heard of the odin 2 plugin? you literally wont need a guitar player ever...
I cant stress this enough but ur an amazing creatorS super under rated Thank you for making amazing content.
I saw your tutorials way back a couple years ago, didnt know you were still doing stuff! Good to see you again.
🤣 “we’re not Axl Rose over here.” Real talk this is super helpful and impressive per usual.
This is the first time I'm seeing someone use OTT after reverb, sounds awesome!
Thanks!
The subdivision of this 4/4 part is pretty nice. - those chords have some nice American Football vibes to them!
just when i needed this exact video. thank you underbelly.
Same, I bought Ample guitar Stratocaster like two weeks ago and really needed something like this.
As someone who very happily paid ableton all my money for the suite, I am always so forgetful of the fact that I own like a billion packs that I just never installed.
It’s overwhelming at times, all stuff in the Suite
Buy me ableton
Honestly, there are so many things in ableton suite that a lot of people don't use because they just google plugins instead of trying to actually learn all of the ways to use the software they paid real money for. It's really refreshing to challenge yourself by forcing yourself to use only stock plugins and learn to make the fullest out of your choice of daw.
@@beseakos I was that kind of man. Now besides some external synths I am using only what I have bundled in live suite. EQ, compression, saturation. Even limiting but I find Live 10 limiter not the best. Still, Live stock stuff is great and very capable. No need to look for anything else unless there is some specific need for. Definitely no need for beginners, all is there
Literally same.
Dude this is actually sick, I thought it was a real guitar when I listened to it. Your album reminds me of opeth with electronic music. Super dope man.
damn boi wunderbilly pumping out the content! :D
Great tutorial as always, i've been learning something and my depression was cured. Hope to see a tutorial on these sick bass and drum sounds aswell
9:28 hahahah the final wowzers got me !! amazing tutorial, thank you!
Wowsers!! This is great info. Thx for sharing
Dope video bro, helped out alot
Laughed my fkkin ass off at this CLASSIC YSAP! Please do keep it up
@3:57 LOLOL you kill me dude, you are the GOAT
You and navie d are di Best of di Best , thanks a lot dude , greetings from argentina
WOWZERS!
Your high mids are wowzers.
Dude. Your amazing with your representations
I LOVE YOU!!! Thanks for putting this out there. I've been looking a way for make fake guitar sounds cause I will NEVER play one, no offense to anyone who plays. You're funny as heck and you're an excellent producer. Just thought you should know.
I nearly died with the foot
These videos are the best thing I’ve ever seen 😂
You a goddamn genius bro, every video i learn some new shit. This keeps me exctied to keep making music and getting better. Thanks for the service you provide.
Thoroughly enjoying 'Machine Yearning'. Thanks for being uncompromising in what you do 🙌
New to ableton, really needed this actually. Why bother with strings and wires for little riffs. Most excellent.
Wowsers, great tutorial
You also need to put an ir/cab sim after the guitar amp!
made my day man, good stuff
Excellent video!
the toes threw me off
super cool tutorial
Never tried to fuck around with a MIDI guitar because I was afraid of how unrealistic it would sound. I just used loops and got over the fact that they weren't my own riffs. After watching this video, however, I think I'll try and create a track with a MIDI guitar.
Wowzers.
truly awesome video lol, love this guy
Dig the red toe nails Underbelly! 💅
you're a legend man
Today I learned this man has beautifully pedicured feet :) That sustain pedal must have a wonderful life.
lol
or it could be someone elses, but yea
after I moved to Germany without my guitar, I thought this is the end, but this video saved my life!!!
Oh it happened to you too
Undebelly s the main man ✨
This is an awesome video! Subscribed and im gonna check out your album
Incredible Shit. Wowzers!
thanks for this!!! ill follow this in the future
Fantastic video !!! Very helpful indeed. Thanks
I wouldn't put the quantize all the way to 100%, sometimes just a slight human element packs a big punch. ....I'd set it between 90%-100% ymmv
Idk man, this sounds like an absolute banger. 0:27
WOWZERSSSS!!!
I dont have this stock guitar in Live 11. Can someone tell me why?
very awesome tutorial! thanks a lot!
I fucking love u man
Highly recommend ample guitar to anyone watching and needing good guitar plugins! I have not been able to find a plugin I use more :)
1000%. I use the free version of Ample P-Bass and it is PHENOMENAL.
And if you want some of the best engines on the market for electric guitars and e-bass, (7-9-Strings too), the Shreddage 3 series with a free, limited Kontakt demo sure satisfies a bunch of requirements. Impact Soundworks has some real bangers.
this is greatness!!!
3:44 caught me off guard lol
Wowzers. I learned so much in this video. I hope My fake guitar track in the future turns out well too
I wish there were more metal geared tutorials out there, I use fl studio but orc daw doesn't really matter that much on a tutorial
Shreddage vsts are mad for chords, haven’t seen solos replicated well unless they done with a seaboard or a sensitive controller
@@Spiritbeats69 yeah, I'd like to see tutorials composition wise and so on.. Like few examples how to make metal.. I have some songs but they don't feel right all the way thru.
@@Spiritbeats69 You should check out my productions. Shreddage is the only thing I use for chords and leads and I get incredible results from them. Just listen to one of my songs and you'll hear it.
Links available upon request.
@@stardustie Where can I hear them? I could give you some tips on how to make them sound better.
Midwest-midi
instructive and hilarious. thank you sir
Your name is so true and how convienient i was tryna make it sound real and the day after i see this
Oh Underbelly, how I love thee! 💖💖🤗🤗
that OTT is especially usefull for making it sound realistic !!!!
😍 This is premium!
That foot had me dead
As you were talking about the sustain pedal I was thinking: "Is there going to be a foot-cam gag?"
This dingus doesn't disappoint. Like for the comedy alone.
I was thinking about buying a guitar again since I have money, but honestly I just need to finally use all the sweet tools on my computer.
i love this channel
3:04
I was waiting for a video on guitars! You can also use MPE for guitar slides
DEREK TOES 💅🏻
I love your videos so much, I can’t stop laughing and I learn so much. Thank you thank you thank you!
great viddd
“A guitar only has six strings so theoretically only six notes can be played”
*9+ string guitars would like to know your location*
12 string guitars are my favourite
Bro wtf, how did you know I was struggling with this 😭
Quantizing and slapping OTT on immediately takes all the life out of it. You played it pretty well, why take out the human feel
Thats because hes soundshaping according to the track he's applying the guitar too. If he didnt quantize it, it may sound out of context with the 'electronic' elements. If he didnt apply OTT then it wouldn't come through the mix enough. I understand your point if he was doing something more traditional however.
@@Reeceline sure quantizing can be good if done very carefully. But for OTT there’s never an excuse. It’s just bad and most people use it out of habit. It ruins the soul of your tracks.
@@LIFEAFTEREVERYTHING I simply explained why I think he made the choices he did. I didnt state that OTT sounds good. Its also ironic that you assume I use it when in fact I dont even own it. Well done on the passive aggressive tone 👍
@@lucmermans37 fair enough and thanks for a balanced argument. Ive stated above I dont use OTT and can only go by the context at which he seemed to use it here. Quantizing (or lack of) comes with experience. I suspect he felt it made more sense to quantize given its a tutorial and the average viewer may not have the timing skills he has.
OTT is necessary sometimes to cut thru the mix, it sucks but it’s true
However I do agree with you on the quantize part, it took the human element out of the track, no matter how skilled no guitar player can sound that robotic, the slight imperfections is what makes playing an instrument sound so unique
It costs money but the ample metal hellrazer 9 string is pretty cool.
Impact Soundworks' Shreddage line are the ultimate virtual guitars on the market today.
is it necessary to apply nail polish before using the sustain pedal?
Essential
yes
Guitar and bass is only designed for live 12 or higher, sadly. Any tips?
Impressive mastery of Ableton. thx. Sustain pedal ? Isn't there anything in Ableton that will sustain the notes without having to buy external hardware ?
WJAT absit a HARDWARE MIDI CONTROLLER where I employ my STRUMMING SKILLS, aimed at all my VST Sample Libraries, AMPLE and IMPACT SOUNDWORKS and on and on. I'm a KEYS player, but also a guitar player. I just want a STICK that I can STRUM ON. Any thoughts? It's just, for me, HELL is programming in all this tedious strumming biz. thanks
Is this actually getting a guitar fingerstylist closer to writing out tabs in Guitar Pro 8 by playing in Abelton ?
Searching n not finding the holy grail of writing out tabs the easy way. I’ve never tried Abelton!
wowzers！
the foot joke almost killed me !
👁️👄👁️
what if it isnt a joke
Not a single person in the comments pointing out that what he calls a "hammer on" is actually just a slide. I let it slide the first time, but then he said it like 3 more times.
Yeah, that was annoying to me, as well.
Yeah I thought it was odd that he kept saying that
THANKS!
...whose foot was that on the sustain pedal
yours
you rocked that sound too much, congrats. I would like to know how to make a guitar in power chords with distortion and some palm mute, do you know how to do it with ableton live?
Wowzers
That intro was every boomer’s worst nightmare realized