What aspects would you like me to test in the final review? Currently on my list I have: - comparison with ROG Ally and others - more PC game and emulation testing - fan noise testing - ambient heat testing (especially near handles) - SD card testing - USB4/eGPU and docked mode testing - battery life
Hey Russ, I think you said in your video that you upgraded the drivers to the latest AMD ones that just came out a week or so ago. Apparently there’s an issue with those ones and they actually decrease performance compared to the previous drivers. I’ve seen both The Phawx and Digital Foundry post on Twitter about it and a few news sites reporting it too. Would it be possible to look into this and maybe compare one of your other 7840u handhelds that you haven’t upgraded yet to the Onexfly with the latest drivers.
I'd say all of them, but I'm curious about battery life under different tests, like emulation, high end games, lighter indie, and cpu heavy like factorio or ashes of the singularity.
Great review Russ, thanks for always being transparent such as sharing how the prototype panel is only 60hz! No one else has shared that detail and that's why you're the go-to trusted source imo. Always great unbiased impressions/reviews with no stone unturned! Even actually weighing it! Cheers! Keep up the great work.
Thanks! Could you tell that those comparisons were from two different recording sessions? I filmed everything and then realized the next day I forgot a couple devices. Lining it all up again was a huge pain! 😆
This is the first of these “off name” higher end handhelds that I am actually thinking of getting. I love my Ally and Deck, but this thing looks pretty great, especially battery. Thanks for another great quality video!!
Chill out buddy you already have the two best handhelds out there lol, i dont really think you need this 3rd one. Sometimes a person must think: "do i WANT this or NEED this". huge difference
@@heyjeySigma you're 100% right. I have 7 handhelds, and only two hands. It's not about money, I've spent more on board games than all my tech. I just like collecting them.
I can't for the life of me understand why there is so much hate when people buy stuff. Even when I couldn't afford even an Xbox, I didn't hate on those with an Xbox, ps2, and GameCube. I was happy for them.
Most likely pretty decent I've had 3 oxps so far including the 6800u mini which this is the successor to the cooling is typically not the problem in my experience
@@rg9465 the software and whatnot is not as robust for their launcher etc but it doesn't really matter since it's a Windows pc can really use whatever you like on it. So far I've probably had a the least amt of issues that would result hardware wise on oxp stuff their cooling in their stuff is typically overkill love to see it. Vs something like Aya where cooling is barely just enough to keep things going on average but two very philosophies and approaches towards gaming handhelds love both the brands for what they're doing trying to push innovation
@@rg9465 a lot of people collect these devices. The onexplayer 1, onexmini pro and now the onexplayer 2/pro. I’ve seen people buy a steam deck and an ally just because.
That handheld looks really neat! If I was a channel like you and I really liked pc handhelds I'd probably get a one like this. But I'm perfectly ok with the Steamdeck. I am glad that handhelds are coming back. that's pretty awesome.
Smaller handheld with a full 7" screen and a lot of horsepower under the hood makes this a big deal. Hopefully it doesn't kill SD cards like the Ally has been reported to do. Pricing is going to be a big deal, and they're being very quiet about it.
Kinda an unrelated topic but Honestly this needs more attention. The steam deck has a huge issue with getting a black screen where device works but the screen just doesn’t. Everyone on reddit is reporting this issue and all valve does is replace it than actually do something to fix this issue. I wasn’t lucky they wanted to charge me 145 to fix the deck even though it’s they’re fault for the faulty hardware.
I enjoy how you specifically critique the d-pads in your videos. In your experience what is the best d-pads you’ve encountered? Not just handheld PCs but handhelds in general.
Appriciate❤ Thank You very much for review Onexplayer. Honestly we still need information about the price per each as well😢. It will really help for us to make purchase decision.
Somehow I have a little more confidence with OneNetbook as a company. I have the OneMix4 and the build quality is excellent. I also follow most gaming handheld subreddits, and OneNetbook/OneX has the least amount of complaints, duds, RMAs, and general issues with their products after they ship. It seems they take product R&D, and Quality Control and Assurance seriously. The OneXfly is already looking like one of the best contenders even against the GPD win 4 and the ROG Ally. But I'm still waiting for a model that is as small as the OneXfly or smaller that atleast has a couple rear programmable buttons. Even a pro version of the OneXfly with just that would be on top of the handheld tier list for me. Second place would be the GPD win 4 for all of the features it packs for the size. I'm not touching anything Ayaneo though, too many red flags over there. Edit: Somehow despite being a sister company to AOKZOE, i don't trust that brand, it's kind of like the Oneplus vs Oppo, I'd trust Oneplus or OneNetbook in this case over Oppo or AOKZOE, the latter ones are a bit shady.
Hey, Russ. So I just recently got an RG351V and wanted to download ArkOS or amberELEC onto it. I followed your UA-cam tutorials, which were EXTREMELY well made and comprehensive. However, I ran into a problem with the firmware. Apparently the RG351V model has two screen models, and if you buy one on Amazon today, then your tutorials are outdated. It would be great if you could address this issue in the channel, because I’d hate more people to experience the same issue.
Ohh i would be interested in that as well, i bought my 351v a long time ago so i didn't experience anything like that, BUT, since it's my favorite handheld overall, i'd love if it were more accessible for everyone!
@@claraginjas yeah I’m new to the emulator game but the 351v is freaking impressive to me. You get the amazing childhood nostalgia with the game boy like vertical shape, and you can play basically every game ever made in my childhood. It’s insane, and a great reason for me to get back into the video game scene.
Hey as a follow-up, I went back and did more testing after this comment, and it was the updated AMD graphics drivers that were being inefficient -- they were somehow spoofing the 680M iGPU as a 660M and it was causing performance loss. For my full review I went back to the original drivers provided by OneNetbook, and got better performance. Thanks for making the comment!
@@RetroGameCorps Oh, I've heard of people talking about that issue with the new AMD drivers. I just hope we get some good official drivers in the meantime. No need to thank, thank you for making these awesome videos =)
Do you know if they have some "battery limiter" on Onexpfly? Example, after 80% will stop charging to protect the battery! Thanks for another great review
Why would anyone keep the battery at 80% !! All devices disconnect the battery from charging when they reach 100% and the you get the power from the chrger directly with the battery disconnected, thats how you protect the battery not 80%
@@Ybm9000 its the battery wear my concern... and yes thats why many laptops like asus have the "app" to stop charging at 80%... google it before talking this things
Looks great on the 60hz fresh rate, but it’s a bummer that they boast 120hz but send a test kit of only 60. I would be interested to see if there is a difference in battery life when using 120hz panel and how it compares with the ROG Ally.
12:08 I would like all the hardware manufacturers to stop using the 2000s “gamer interface” for their apps. Just use a normal UI, visually compatible with the os they’re running on and focus on features and polish first.
Im having trouble getting my onexfly to read as a controller on pscx...its like the the contols arent working properly an its like its reading as a mouse an keyboard
This is probably a minority opinion, but I really love this barebones launcher on my A1. Because it does nothing other than show a grid of games and allow you to launch them, it's super, super fast. It starts basically immediately, going through the list of games is completely lag-free - nothing has to be loaded when you select a game, because it shows no metadata. There are some things that are missing, for example, it doesn't seem to find Steam games that aren't on the main drive, but other than fixing those problems, I really hope they don't bog it down with tons of features. I don't need this to be a games downloader, I don't need it to integrate with stores, I don't need it to delete games for me, I just need it to be a super fast games launcher.
I think that's a great point, I guess the features I am hoping for are akin to what you can find in Amoury Crate, like the ability to manage per-game configurations. It would be nice to bring up a sub-menu for each game and determine the default TDP, for example.
I have been using playnite on my windows deck and was wondering if youve used this on any of these handheld pcs and if you feel its worth using over steam big picture mode
Is the screen native landscape? Other devices of this form factor have a flipped landscape display, and when I play the Steam version of Tales of Symphonia, the screen is flipped!
What is it with all of these manufacturers that keep copying the Switch or Xbox layout? Valve are the only one's that have gotten the layout and ergonomics right with the Deck.
onexfly is awesome looking but does it not preform less than the steam deck for half the price? i am considering selling my gpu from old desktop thats bottlenecked and want a handheld but from my gathering the steam deck preforms great? plz lmk
Please comment on how easy it is to upgrade the SSD (if possible). I briefly viewed the upgrade options for anything higher than 512GB and paying over a $1000 U.S. is a very tough pill to swallow when you can get an Asus ROG Ally for less than $800 and buy a value priced 1T or 2TB SSD. Also consider that this is a crowd funded endeavour and that buyers will be waiting months to get their hands on it and the potential downsides of having to return the device back overseas if something goes wrong. I'm spoiled by the customer service of Valve on their Steam Deck and the Ally's Best Buy return policy.
My god look at the i/o! Actually has a usb A port....not to mention 2 usb 4.0 C ports ! However, with the lack of VRR or freesync, its going to be a tough sell over the ROG Ally. If it had trackpads and Freesync, I'd preorder and sell my Deck
Steamdeck is okay in weight. My issue with it mainly the layout. IMy hands are a bit small, so sometimes found arrow keys and back buttons hard to press.
Good reviews as always. Got my white one and I love It! I was watching the gameplay here and It looks like It performs really well, for some reason my GPU won’t go over 800mhz no matter what TDP, and some games just completely freeze… did you have to do anything or install anything to get It to run full speed?
steam deck really showed that 800p @40Hz looks great on these small screens and that pushing higher resolutions and frame rates beyond 60Hz is really diminishing returns especially when factoring in battery life and overall performance. these capabilities are relevant when connecting to a larger display, but for a built-in panel i'd much rather see something like the steam deck's display.
it won't be less but close at 739, which isn't bad, while it maybe doesn't have the vrr, for some the fact it has hall effect sticks and the 7840u being slightly better than the z1e in comparison may have some rather choose it over the rog, i think it also has the faster ram if i remember correctly, but to each their own tho
@@melxb without vrr means it consume even more of the Ally, this means the battery lasts even less and the Ally is not a champion already in this field.
@@melxb yeah but your "personally" does not match with 90% of the use case for this device. I would not risk buying a device the few owns with the risk that if there is an issue I'm left hanging because who cares of those few users.
@@Macs does it really not tho, i would say the average person doesn't have enough time to game outdoors, what maybe during a lunch break at work or btw classes if they are still at school or their short bus ride home, and most dont travel or vacation nearly enough maybe once every other year...besides outdoors just isn't as great as at home in peace without the noise/hustle and bustle and distractions, it's more immersive laid back on bed or the couch will always be most ideal, but sure to each their own
The Video I'd like to see is: WHICH MAKES THE BETTER TELEVISION CONSOLE? THIS, the ALLY, OR STEAM DECK? ...or something else? The main thing I want one of these for is an easy game console for my TV. I'd play it handheld, but mainly I want something easier that my laptop to use on my TV? So, if it's plugged in.. which is the better console experience?
120 htz but no vrr is an absolute bummer and makes this an easy pass. For this price point I feel like a VRR screen needs to be the norm now on in my opinion
so if the ideal handheld gaming system im looking for would be something that is actually reasonably pocket size, like the vita or retroid pocket 3+ or maybe very slightly bigger, that can play ps2 gamecube vita and older perfect or near perfect, should i wait, do u think something will come out like that, like maybe the next retroid pocket, or do you think the retroid pocket 3+ or rg405 are the closest there will be and to just get one now? because the trend seems to be very big handheld devices so not sure if another better pocket size device will even come. also don't really want to use smartphone plus controller because battery life for using the phone
The onexplayer is just a bad handheld, the heat will warp the sd card slot and or kill the sd card, tech support is almost non existent, there are so many complaints from that thing
pretty sure the price is supposed to be 730 or so, didn't they have a milestone up if certain number of preorders were reached they'd permanently price it at 730 and a couple of weeks ago i remember that it was nearly reached with only a few pre orders left with plenty days left to reach the goal, must have been reached by now
My bet on price. $50-100 less than the Ally, and I think it would be hit. That VRR is a big deal, so the Ally wins this one right now but, if they price it right, it could be a win for everyone who needs it (I might sell my SteamDeck for it)
Nearly all of my pre-release reviews are prototypes -- all of the AYANEO devices, the ROG Ally, and all the mini PCs have been the same. They often will be missing a feature or two, but admittedly, the lack of one of its main features (the 120Hz screen) on the OneXFly is a pretty big disappointment, and I'll mention that again with more context in my review video next week.
I admit this might be a stupid gripe, but why do so many of these devices insist on going with asymmetric sticks? I admit, I've been a playstation player for most of my life, so I admit I'm biased, but I'm really not a fan of the offset sticks. The parallel ones always fit and made more sense to me
It's a little tougher with handhelds because they don't have those flared grips that you can find on PS controllers to help balance everything. Without those grips (and their 45-ish degree angled design) it's pretty uncomfortable when both sticks are at the bottom unless they are really far inset or located near the center of the device, like on the PS Vita. I think that might be why the Project Q is basically a DualSense controller chopped in half, it's hard to design it otherwise!
@@RetroGameCorps Hey, Russ! Thanks for replying. You have good points, I guess I should clarify that I am probably on the minority here, but I find it easier to slide my thumbs quickly DOWN off the sticks to push a face button or a d pad, so I'd like to see the sticks up high with the d pad and face buttons below them. There's probably things wrong with this design that I can't currently think of. The Steam Deck is actually what made me think this would actually work and be comfortable, because of how you can assign radial menus to the track pads, and that can be done extremely quickly and comfortably. I'm probably alone here in wanting this. You have tons of handheld experience, is there a device with this setup, and was it any good? Appreciate your time, thanks for the great content. I forgot to add, you're right. I actually bought one of those cases for the vita that made it more like the PlayStation controller because of the discomfort in my thumbs from having to crook them awkwardly to use the sticks
@@LiteraryCurtastrophe I think the closest approximation to what you are describing is the Wii U's screenpad, which had its analog sticks up top, and a lot of people really loved that pad. So I think it's definitely possible!
What aspects would you like me to test in the final review? Currently on my list I have:
- comparison with ROG Ally and others
- more PC game and emulation testing
- fan noise testing
- ambient heat testing (especially near handles)
- SD card testing
- USB4/eGPU and docked mode testing
- battery life
ALL OF THEM!!! but seriously, I'd rather you gave priority to vs ROG Ally and batery life
Hey Russ, I think you said in your video that you upgraded the drivers to the latest AMD ones that just came out a week or so ago. Apparently there’s an issue with those ones and they actually decrease performance compared to the previous drivers. I’ve seen both The Phawx and Digital Foundry post on Twitter about it and a few news sites reporting it too.
Would it be possible to look into this and maybe compare one of your other 7840u handhelds that you haven’t upgraded yet to the Onexfly with the latest drivers.
Hey, if it's not a bother could you also add a best d-pad battle please? Fighting games fan here 😂 Also, awesome video once again 😎
For me, screen color saturation and brightness vs the Ayaneo 2s and other handhelds
I'd say all of them, but I'm curious about battery life under different tests, like emulation, high end games, lighter indie, and cpu heavy like factorio or ashes of the singularity.
Great review Russ, thanks for always being transparent such as sharing how the prototype panel is only 60hz! No one else has shared that detail and that's why you're the go-to trusted source imo. Always great unbiased impressions/reviews with no stone unturned! Even actually weighing it!
Cheers! Keep up the great work.
Thanks for watching!
Lovely shape. My favourite looking handheld for sure. Speakers are dope too.
ur dope bb
i think the aokzoe a2 will be my favorite it looks ever so slightly more sleeker than this onexfly
I really like the flow and style of the size comparison. It seems like you did that different there compared to usual and I like it!
Thanks! Could you tell that those comparisons were from two different recording sessions? I filmed everything and then realized the next day I forgot a couple devices. Lining it all up again was a huge pain! 😆
thanks so much for making these size comparisons. really helps out a lot.
Happy to help!
This is the first of these “off name” higher end handhelds that I am actually thinking of getting. I love my Ally and Deck, but this thing looks pretty great, especially battery. Thanks for another great quality video!!
Chill out buddy you already have the two best handhelds out there lol, i dont really think you need this 3rd one.
Sometimes a person must think: "do i WANT this or NEED this". huge difference
@@heyjeySigma some people just have that money burning in their pockets waiting to be spent
And are the same people turning around on IG trying to sell shit for bills because they lack self control
@@heyjeySigma you're 100% right. I have 7 handhelds, and only two hands. It's not about money, I've spent more on board games than all my tech. I just like collecting them.
I can't for the life of me understand why there is so much hate when people buy stuff. Even when I couldn't afford even an Xbox, I didn't hate on those with an Xbox, ps2, and GameCube. I was happy for them.
I'm interested in seeing how well this Handheld can dissipate heat.
Most likely pretty decent I've had 3 oxps so far including the 6800u mini which this is the successor to the cooling is typically not the problem in my experience
@@ghostsauce3109Having had 3 of their devices, what WOULD you say are typically their shortcomings?
@@rg9465 the software and whatnot is not as robust for their launcher etc but it doesn't really matter since it's a Windows pc can really use whatever you like on it. So far I've probably had a the least amt of issues that would result hardware wise on oxp stuff their cooling in their stuff is typically overkill love to see it. Vs something like Aya where cooling is barely just enough to keep things going on average but two very philosophies and approaches towards gaming handhelds love both the brands for what they're doing trying to push innovation
@@rg9465 a lot of people collect these devices. The onexplayer 1, onexmini pro and now the onexplayer 2/pro. I’ve seen people buy a steam deck and an ally just because.
@@ghostsauce3109I’m looking to get one and I’m torn between the onexplayer 2 pro and this what would you recommend?
Love your backgrounds... Doom ! 🙌
32x version too 😎
That handheld looks really neat! If I was a channel like you and I really liked pc handhelds I'd probably get a one like this. But I'm perfectly ok with the Steamdeck. I am glad that handhelds are coming back. that's pretty awesome.
Smaller handheld with a full 7" screen and a lot of horsepower under the hood makes this a big deal. Hopefully it doesn't kill SD cards like the Ally has been reported to do. Pricing is going to be a big deal, and they're being very quiet about it.
No they are not quit about pricing .. it already out
739$ 😉
@@Ybm9000 Have a source for that?
@@holzapfela it’s on their website and yes it’s official
@@holzapfelapresale newsletter
@@holzapfela yes on their website .. its been out for more than a week
The freesync on the Ally still takes the cake
I hope you would upload the full review a day before the IGG starts so we can decide. 😊
Thorough review for a thorough viewer. Class.
Kinda an unrelated topic but Honestly this needs more attention. The steam deck has a huge issue with getting a black screen where device works but the screen just doesn’t. Everyone on reddit is reporting this issue and all valve does is replace it than actually do something to fix this issue. I wasn’t lucky they wanted to charge me 145 to fix the deck even though it’s they’re fault for the faulty hardware.
I enjoy how you specifically critique the d-pads in your videos.
In your experience what is the best d-pads you’ve encountered? Not just handheld PCs but handhelds in general.
Appriciate❤
Thank You very much for review Onexplayer.
Honestly we still need information about the price per each as well😢. It will really help for us to make purchase decision.
Cool to see the Mario and Daisy thing still going on
Keep doing what makes you happy
Somehow I have a little more confidence with OneNetbook as a company. I have the OneMix4 and the build quality is excellent. I also follow most gaming handheld subreddits, and OneNetbook/OneX has the least amount of complaints, duds, RMAs, and general issues with their products after they ship. It seems they take product R&D, and Quality Control and Assurance seriously. The OneXfly is already looking like one of the best contenders even against the GPD win 4 and the ROG Ally. But I'm still waiting for a model that is as small as the OneXfly or smaller that atleast has a couple rear programmable buttons. Even a pro version of the OneXfly with just that would be on top of the handheld tier list for me. Second place would be the GPD win 4 for all of the features it packs for the size. I'm not touching anything Ayaneo though, too many red flags over there. Edit: Somehow despite being a sister company to AOKZOE, i don't trust that brand, it's kind of like the Oneplus vs Oppo, I'd trust Oneplus or OneNetbook in this case over Oppo or AOKZOE, the latter ones are a bit shady.
not bad can't wait to see how the aokzoe a2 compare, it looks similar compact, but a bit more sleeker
Hey, Russ. So I just recently got an RG351V and wanted to download ArkOS or amberELEC onto it. I followed your UA-cam tutorials, which were EXTREMELY well made and comprehensive. However, I ran into a problem with the firmware. Apparently the RG351V model has two screen models, and if you buy one on Amazon today, then your tutorials are outdated. It would be great if you could address this issue in the channel, because I’d hate more people to experience the same issue.
Ohh i would be interested in that as well, i bought my 351v a long time ago so i didn't experience anything like that, BUT, since it's my favorite handheld overall, i'd love if it were more accessible for everyone!
@@claraginjas yeah I’m new to the emulator game but the 351v is freaking impressive to me. You get the amazing childhood nostalgia with the game boy like vertical shape, and you can play basically every game ever made in my childhood. It’s insane, and a great reason for me to get back into the video game scene.
Great impressions of this device Russ, I have my eyes on it! Any follow up yet? :)
Would love to know how loud the fan is compared to the steam deck and ally
This is running Hades 60 fps at 15 Watt TDP. Ayaneo 2s runs it at 8 W TDP. Considering the APU is the same, why such a big difference?
Hey as a follow-up, I went back and did more testing after this comment, and it was the updated AMD graphics drivers that were being inefficient -- they were somehow spoofing the 680M iGPU as a 660M and it was causing performance loss. For my full review I went back to the original drivers provided by OneNetbook, and got better performance. Thanks for making the comment!
@@RetroGameCorps Oh, I've heard of people talking about that issue with the new AMD drivers. I just hope we get some good official drivers in the meantime. No need to thank, thank you for making these awesome videos =)
Do you know if they have some "battery limiter" on Onexpfly? Example, after 80% will stop charging to protect the battery! Thanks for another great review
Why would anyone keep the battery at 80% !!
All devices disconnect the battery from charging when they reach 100% and the you get the power from the chrger directly with the battery disconnected, thats how you protect the battery not 80%
@@Ybm9000 its the battery wear my concern... and yes thats why many laptops like asus have the "app" to stop charging at 80%... google it before talking this things
Looks great on the 60hz fresh rate, but it’s a bummer that they boast 120hz but send a test kit of only 60. I would be interested to see if there is a difference in battery life when using 120hz panel and how it compares with the ROG Ally.
Yeah, that would have been nice, it was definitely something I was planning on testing. Hopefully they will send me a retail unit when it's ready.
Love the Fugazi t-shirt. Based music taste.
Thanks, I wish I still had the old "This is not a Fugazi shirt" shirt but I haven't seen it for sale since the 1990s :(
12:08 I would like all the hardware manufacturers to stop using the 2000s “gamer interface” for their apps. Just use a normal UI, visually compatible with the os they’re running on and focus on features and polish first.
Im having trouble getting my onexfly to read as a controller on pscx...its like the the contols arent working properly an its like its reading as a mouse an keyboard
I wish your emulation and pc game testing section was longer.
This is probably a minority opinion, but I really love this barebones launcher on my A1. Because it does nothing other than show a grid of games and allow you to launch them, it's super, super fast. It starts basically immediately, going through the list of games is completely lag-free - nothing has to be loaded when you select a game, because it shows no metadata. There are some things that are missing, for example, it doesn't seem to find Steam games that aren't on the main drive, but other than fixing those problems, I really hope they don't bog it down with tons of features.
I don't need this to be a games downloader, I don't need it to integrate with stores, I don't need it to delete games for me, I just need it to be a super fast games launcher.
I think that's a great point, I guess the features I am hoping for are akin to what you can find in Amoury Crate, like the ability to manage per-game configurations. It would be nice to bring up a sub-menu for each game and determine the default TDP, for example.
@@RetroGameCorpstrue ayaspace 2 also allows per game configs if i remember correctly
@@RetroGameCorps Fair, per-game configs would be super useful.
Try forward back down forward for the dragon uppercut works better until you get the hang of the pad
Man ROG Ally will remain on top to me as long as it’s the only device with VRR…makes a big difference to me
Win mini
@@thethelostboys1 Win Mini is not going to have VRR.
I installed a 4 tb SSD on my rog ally, now I'm using it as main PC .
@@mistervo8185 No you didn't. The Ally has a 2230 M.2 slot and there aren't any 4TB 2230 drives on the market.
@@mistervo8185how hard was that to do?
Are you gonna review the onexfly f1 pro?
I have been using playnite on my windows deck and was wondering if youve used this on any of these handheld pcs and if you feel its worth using over steam big picture mode
Is the screen native landscape? Other devices of this form factor have a flipped landscape display, and when I play the Steam version of Tales of Symphonia, the screen is flipped!
When will we see the OneXPlayer 2 Pro 8840U on this channel?? 😬
It's mind blowing how this console performs Spider-Man so good
The video I was waiting for
I’m 85% convinced I’m going to get this… waiting to see if the screen is good (contrast and colours).
I stop working to watch your videos 💯
Don't get fired bro
@@j_crust4582 don’t tell my boss, bro
@@j_crust4582It's cool I won't fire him
Me too 😂
The loki is such a perfect size and shape. All the others are so big and chunky.
La Onexfly tiene Giroscopio/ Gyroscope???. .¿...
RGC personalized Prototype RGB...on the Left... Nice...🧐🤓😎
What is it with all of these manufacturers that keep copying the Switch or Xbox layout?
Valve are the only one's that have gotten the layout and ergonomics right with the Deck.
I really like the design of this device.
Although not a big fan of those rgb displays in the bottom corners. I would prefer some rubbery grips
onexfly is awesome looking but does it not preform less than the steam deck for half the price? i am considering selling my gpu from old desktop thats bottlenecked and want a handheld but from my gathering the steam deck preforms great? plz lmk
No VRR/free-sync is a hard no go for me.
Thank you for the test.
If a joypad cant make a good shoryuken , its over. It looked interesting but i would not be happy with that .
Was wondering if you were going to do a review of the pocket 2s?
Please comment on how easy it is to upgrade the SSD (if possible). I briefly viewed the upgrade options for anything higher than 512GB and paying over a $1000 U.S. is a very tough pill to swallow when you can get an Asus ROG Ally for less than $800 and buy a value priced 1T or 2TB SSD. Also consider that this is a crowd funded endeavour and that buyers will be waiting months to get their hands on it and the potential downsides of having to return the device back overseas if something goes wrong. I'm spoiled by the customer service of Valve on their Steam Deck and the Ally's Best Buy return policy.
My god look at the i/o! Actually has a usb A port....not to mention 2 usb 4.0 C ports !
However, with the lack of VRR or freesync, its going to be a tough sell over the ROG Ally.
If it had trackpads and Freesync, I'd preorder and sell my Deck
Something like this is exactly what I'm looking for as I'm scared to order the steam deck in case it's too heavy for my weak ass hands 🤕
😂 It's not THAT heavy. I even have a case on mine.
Steamdeck is okay in weight. My issue with it mainly the layout. IMy hands are a bit small, so sometimes found arrow keys and back buttons hard to press.
@@kris2501100 how long can u hold it up and play? Yea I understand ur problem my hands are small too
does this have vrr like the rog ally ?
Worth noting the 120hz screen on this and the GPD Mini won't be vrr so Ally will still have the edge in screen
Oh my, too many handhelds. I need a second job :) Thanks for the preview video.
have u got your hands on the POWKIDDY RGB10MAX3 Pro yet?
Good reviews as always. Got my white one and I love It! I was watching the gameplay here and It looks like It performs really well, for some reason my GPU won’t go over 800mhz no matter what TDP, and some games just completely freeze… did you have to do anything or install anything to get It to run full speed?
steam deck really showed that 800p @40Hz looks great on these small screens and that pushing higher resolutions and frame rates beyond 60Hz is really diminishing returns especially when factoring in battery life and overall performance. these capabilities are relevant when connecting to a larger display, but for a built-in panel i'd much rather see something like the steam deck's display.
I agree. This gets lost on people
i want a rg35xx but can run ps2 it has to be linux usning somtheng like batocera any suggestions ?
Nice compact looking handheld device
I doubt this will cost less than the Rog Ally and the no VRR display means it will remain on the shelf
it won't be less but close at 739, which isn't bad, while it maybe doesn't have the vrr, for some the fact it has hall effect sticks and the 7840u being slightly better than the z1e in comparison may have some rather choose it over the rog, i think it also has the faster ram if i remember correctly, but to each their own tho
@@melxb without vrr means it consume even more of the Ally, this means the battery lasts even less and the Ally is not a champion already in this field.
@@Macs eh i don't care for battery personally, play while charging 90% of the time anyways
@@melxb yeah but your "personally" does not match with 90% of the use case for this device. I would not risk buying a device the few owns with the risk that if there is an issue I'm left hanging because who cares of those few users.
@@Macs does it really not tho, i would say the average person doesn't have enough time to game outdoors, what maybe during a lunch break at work or btw classes if they are still at school or their short bus ride home, and most dont travel or vacation nearly enough maybe once every other year...besides outdoors just isn't as great as at home in peace without the noise/hustle and bustle and distractions, it's more immersive laid back on bed or the couch will always be most ideal, but sure to each their own
Love it!
The Video I'd like to see is:
WHICH MAKES THE BETTER TELEVISION CONSOLE? THIS, the ALLY, OR STEAM DECK? ...or something else?
The main thing I want one of these for is an easy game console for my TV. I'd play it handheld, but mainly I want something easier that my laptop to use on my TV?
So, if it's plugged in.. which is the better console experience?
I definitely hope valve can get the deck 2 a little smaller these smaller devices are very interesting
*sees your fugazi shirt* That's awesome.
I really wish it had vrr, would totally take it over my ally. For now keeping my ally and getting the 7840u win 4
Did you make the device names like that or was it like that on the website?
pls also review manufacturer, warranty, support etc
I really wish you talked about how loud the fans get when under load. If this thing is noisy it might be a deal breaker for me.
more handheld to get me confused what to buy :( any advice ? for AAA games
120 htz but no vrr is an absolute bummer and makes this an easy pass. For this price point I feel like a VRR screen needs to be the norm now on in my opinion
Would I be able to go up more than 30 watts using 3rd party software?
Can you compare the mouse, keyboard, and biometric security to the GPD Win 4?😌
What’s the fps game u were showing?
so if the ideal handheld gaming system im looking for would be something that is actually reasonably pocket size, like the vita or retroid pocket 3+ or maybe very slightly bigger, that can play ps2 gamecube vita and older perfect or near perfect, should i wait, do u think something will come out like that, like maybe the next retroid pocket, or do you think the retroid pocket 3+ or rg405 are the closest there will be and to just get one now? because the trend seems to be very big handheld devices so not sure if another better pocket size device will even come. also don't really want to use smartphone plus controller because battery life for using the phone
This honestly looks like it's better than the Steam Deck. Hopefully it's not too expensive.
Slightly better 2 years later and for twice the cost, what an achievement
Around $800 for the 16GB - 512GB version
@@DrewDragoon Deck came out for early buyers JUST on April 2022... not close to two years.
Chill out.
Deck and Ally will both be cheaper
It's just more powerful.
the GaN (Gallium based) charger is a gamechanger
Are the triggers analog and good for racing games?
I remember the Onenextplayer had a keyboard attachment that set it apart from the other handhelds out there, will they include one with this?
The onexplayer is just a bad handheld, the heat will warp the sd card slot and or kill the sd card, tech support is almost non existent, there are so many complaints from that thing
Much appreciated, could u please show how Remnant 2 play on any of these mini PC’s. Thanks.
Usb4 is nice
I live oculink but i want one cable and hotplug functionality
The ally does miss that unfortunately
Are the sticks touch sensitive?
New to all this. Onexfly or geek 1s? Why? Why not?
pretty sure the price is supposed to be 730 or so, didn't they have a milestone up if certain number of preorders were reached they'd permanently price it at 730 and a couple of weeks ago i remember that it was nearly reached with only a few pre orders left with plenty days left to reach the goal, must have been reached by now
I just want to buy a cheap handheld that can play PS2...so confused...any recommendations?
My bet on price. $50-100 less than the Ally, and I think it would be hit. That VRR is a big deal, so the Ally wins this one right now but, if they price it right, it could be a win for everyone who needs it (I might sell my SteamDeck for it)
If it's less expensive than the Steam Deck in my region, then I'd be very interested
Anyone know if this is better than the Onexplayer mini pro.
Is there FSR in this device??
And what about freesync ?? Is it making a big difference in these devices?
I need answers before buying 😢
Yes of corse it has FSR if its AMD based
But no VRR
@@Ybm9000 is it confirmed that it will come without VRR??
@yousufalbaker4599
Is there a handheld with VRR nowadays??
Sorry to bother you with my questions.
@@amabka.n101 sadly only the rog ally
@@amabka.n101 yes 100%
Since the device is compact, can you feel any heat when holding it?
I watch all of RGC's videos as they pop up in my feed, but I'm not subscribed. Welp, fixed that problem!
Thanks for the support!
When its releasing?
The 16 gb ram and 512 ssd starts at $739 for crowdfunders.
I LOVE YOUR CONTENT USALLY BUT...
What good is a PROTOTYPE review?
Nearly all of my pre-release reviews are prototypes -- all of the AYANEO devices, the ROG Ally, and all the mini PCs have been the same. They often will be missing a feature or two, but admittedly, the lack of one of its main features (the 120Hz screen) on the OneXFly is a pretty big disappointment, and I'll mention that again with more context in my review video next week.
Any word on the price? Because it comes down to that.
739$
@@Ybm9000 ouch no thanks xD
gotta do the hadouken/shoryuken test, thanks.
You bet!
Do any of these x86 handhelds have a thunderbolt port for using an egpu?
All of them have thunder bolt 4 for egpu
@@Ybm9000 steam deck doesn't, not even thunderbolt 3.
@@kokobeans6956 because steam deck is shit 😂 all other except steamdeck had thunder bolt 4
I admit this might be a stupid gripe, but why do so many of these devices insist on going with asymmetric sticks? I admit, I've been a playstation player for most of my life, so I admit I'm biased, but I'm really not a fan of the offset sticks. The parallel ones always fit and made more sense to me
It's a little tougher with handhelds because they don't have those flared grips that you can find on PS controllers to help balance everything. Without those grips (and their 45-ish degree angled design) it's pretty uncomfortable when both sticks are at the bottom unless they are really far inset or located near the center of the device, like on the PS Vita. I think that might be why the Project Q is basically a DualSense controller chopped in half, it's hard to design it otherwise!
@@RetroGameCorps Hey, Russ! Thanks for replying.
You have good points, I guess I should clarify that I am probably on the minority here, but I find it easier to slide my thumbs quickly DOWN off the sticks to push a face button or a d pad, so I'd like to see the sticks up high with the d pad and face buttons below them. There's probably things wrong with this design that I can't currently think of. The Steam Deck is actually what made me think this would actually work and be comfortable, because of how you can assign radial menus to the track pads, and that can be done extremely quickly and comfortably.
I'm probably alone here in wanting this. You have tons of handheld experience, is there a device with this setup, and was it any good?
Appreciate your time, thanks for the great content.
I forgot to add, you're right. I actually bought one of those cases for the vita that made it more like the PlayStation controller because of the discomfort in my thumbs from having to crook them awkwardly to use the sticks
@@LiteraryCurtastrophe I think the closest approximation to what you are describing is the Wii U's screenpad, which had its analog sticks up top, and a lot of people really loved that pad. So I think it's definitely possible!
yeah man i wanna do it
Russ might say that D-Pad is okay but I still hate Smooth and Flat D-Pads. 😕