Mike Israetel | Renaissance Periodization, Bulking With Dr. Mike, Table Talk

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    Dr. Mike Israetel joins us AGAIN for another Dave Tate's Table Talk Podcast in episode #273
    Dr. Mike Israetel is a Ph.D. in Sport Physiology and a professor at Lehman College (the only Bronx senior college of the City University of New York). He is the co-founder of Renaissance Periodization-a scientifically sound and reliable diet and training consultation service for anyone who wants to use it to achieve results. Mike has a BJJ purple belt and a jiu jitsu brown belt and is an author and an NPC bodybuilder.
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    Timestamps
    0:00 Introduction: Welcome to Table Talk
    01:09 - Meet Dr. Mike, Co-Founder of RP Strength
    05:05 - The Meathead Test: Identifying True Meatheads
    12:20 - The Taco Bell Cleanse: Humorous Diet Ideas
    16:28 - Free Weights Vs. Machines: A Changing Perspective
    20:16 - Supplements: Financial Commitments
    23:14 - Kai Green: Handling Steroid Questions
    48:37 - Humorous Anecdotes and Lifestyle Insights
    50:18 - The Benefits of Aging: Personal Growth and Happiness
    1:04:38 - Lifestyle Choices and Longevity
    1:06:48 - Debunking Muscle-Building Myths
    1:10:52 - Worst Chest Exercises Explained
    1:11:30 - Exercises to Avoid for Shoulders
    1:11:56 - Misguided Tricep Workouts
    1:12:29 - Back Exercises to Rethink
    1:14:22 - Misconceptions in Strength Training
    1:14:42 - Ineffective Leg Workouts for Quads
    1:46:02 - Importance of Carbs Around Workouts
    1:48:44 - Protein Shakes as Food, Not Magic
    1:52:10 - Pre-Exhaust Technique in Training
    1:53:58 - Rest-Pause and Myo-Reps Explanation
    1:55:52 - Understanding Drop Sets
    1:56:16 - Fast Twitch Muscle Focus in Drop Sets
    1:56:44 - Super Sets for Time Efficiency
    1:59:59 - Tempo Changes Within Sets
    2:04:37 - Benefits of Long-Term Exercise Selection
    2:09:43 - Duration of Hypertrophy Phases
    2:12:27 - Maintaining Size in Strength Phases
    2:17:30 - Common Misconceptions on Strength Training
    2:21:39 - Misconceptions Among American Powerlifters
    2:26:47 - Response to "Stay in Your Lane" Criticism
    2:36:26 - Encountering Dismissive Responses
    2:36:47 - Enjoying Conversations and Sharing Knowledge
    2:37:16 - Appreciation for Meaningful Discussions
    2:37:40 - Future Topics of Interest
    2:38:33 - Closing Remarks and Where to Find More Information
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  • @eliteftsofficial
    @eliteftsofficial  2 місяці тому +6

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  • @user-ii7xc1ry3x
    @user-ii7xc1ry3x 2 місяці тому +293

    I'm a simple man: I see Dr Mike, I click.

  • @speedftw32
    @speedftw32 2 місяці тому +66

    This is the most well-intentioned, wholesome discussion about steroids I've ever heard.

  • @razman95x
    @razman95x 2 місяці тому +73

    Whoever is in charge of finding clips for the shorts must love when Mike comes on, content for days 😂

  • @caguama.charlie
    @caguama.charlie 2 місяці тому +96

    Always nice to see long form Dr Mike content!

    • @pricklycats
      @pricklycats 2 місяці тому +4

      I’ve probably listened to 30+ podcast episodes with Dr. Mike and there’s still like 100 more left lmao

  • @Wetterwet
    @Wetterwet 2 місяці тому +74

    Dr. Mike rules.
    Would be cool to see Jared Feather on here

  • @michaelholder98
    @michaelholder98 2 місяці тому +23

    Mike’s perspective on the steroid question lying or not was very eye opening and totally correct. Marine Mike 🇺🇸 💪

    • @strongmansam289
      @strongmansam289 2 місяці тому +4

      He also didn’t mention sponsorships - I think a lot of athletes lie or avoid that question for fear of losing monetary support

  • @zachlloyd9392
    @zachlloyd9392 2 місяці тому +8

    Please please don't wait 6 months to a year to have him back to talk about S&C for sports. Two of my favorite people to listen to.

  • @BrianDeCosta
    @BrianDeCosta 2 місяці тому +27

    Mike led me through a leg workout last month. Fucking killed me. He's the real deal

    • @Wetterwet
      @Wetterwet 2 місяці тому +1

      You’re jacked dude

  • @hubertchristopher9180
    @hubertchristopher9180 Місяць тому +1

    That was awesome! When you get Dave Tate and Mike Israetel together you get two people who are interested in educating people and helping them get better. They put out so much high-quality content for free that you can truly see that they are not solely motivated by money. I wish them both continued success.

  • @666specter666
    @666specter666 2 місяці тому +17

    Dave and Dr.Mike whats not to love!

  • @Dave_Gunderson
    @Dave_Gunderson 2 місяці тому +12

    I love how even though Dave has been doing this for so long, these podcasts never miss! Im convinced that EliteFTS and Dave will still be the number 1 source of info for lifting until the asteroid comes 🤣

  • @ryancounts8131
    @ryancounts8131 27 днів тому +1

    Always enjoyable to watch these interviews with Dr. Mike. At the end of the interview Dr. Mike mentions discussing sports training for his next visit. That would be a great interview to watch.

  • @sjmonville
    @sjmonville 2 місяці тому +5

    Great Pod Dave! I love hearing Dr. Mike's insights. Very well-thought-out and easy to digest.

  • @AndrewSledge
    @AndrewSledge 2 місяці тому +3

    hands down the best TT session in a while - thanks Dave and Mike

  • @jacksonr260
    @jacksonr260 12 днів тому +1

    Having to stop the podcast to get a meal in is real af 😂

  • @Nick_Lawhead93
    @Nick_Lawhead93 2 місяці тому +5

    Yea Dr Mikes back! Love this podcast duo!

  • @hansnordby6932
    @hansnordby6932 18 днів тому

    Would love to see a conversation with Dr Mike talking about training sport athletes especially hockey players. Please make it happen soon!

  • @ohiomp7606
    @ohiomp7606 2 місяці тому +2

    Looking forward to seeing a long video of Mike! Haven’t watched EliteFTS in just under a year but I’m sure this will be a good one!

  • @henryramirezmoreno3927
    @henryramirezmoreno3927 2 місяці тому

    This is gold, love you guys the impact of what you’ve done has no limits. Thanks!

  • @LearningwithDrWalck
    @LearningwithDrWalck 2 місяці тому

    This is by far my favorite interview of Mike. He honesty and kindness explaining the drugs is amazing! I cant wait to share this with my students.

  • @azulsimmons1040
    @azulsimmons1040 2 місяці тому +27

    Heroin movies never end well. Hollywood movies are great to show the difference between pot and heroin. Pot is Cheech and Chong, Harold and Kumar, and Pineapple Express, heroin is Trainspotting and Requiem for a Dream. You don't want any part of heroin.

    • @JB-qt3wo
      @JB-qt3wo 2 місяці тому +3

      Man this whole time I thought heroin and pot were the same thing 😋

    • @pricklycats
      @pricklycats 2 місяці тому

      I did heroin once and never did it again. Not everyone is the same lol

    • @pricklycats
      @pricklycats 2 місяці тому +1

      I actually never enjoyed opioids much luckily. They just made me feel more mentally disabled than I already am. Stimulants were great though.

    • @chrisd5774
      @chrisd5774 2 місяці тому +2

      A close friend of mine tried smoking heroin once and once only, said it was too good and he could see himself losing everything to it.
      Another friend had a fairly long relationship fixing H, and had been clean for 30 + years, and to this day, can't watch any scene in a movie where someone is shooting up, he has to get up and leave the room, the mental pull of it is that strong even 30 years on

    • @1234Cheesus
      @1234Cheesus 2 місяці тому +2

      When I was given morphine in hospital, I realised I could never dabble in heroin at all. It was arguably a very bad situation as to why I was in hospital, but I remember the morphine made it the greatest time ever and I can still remember 10 years later how great it felt.

  • @RATM77777
    @RATM77777 2 місяці тому +12

    Great balance between dead serious and hillarious. A lot of great info and wisdom in this one

  • @casey5384
    @casey5384 2 місяці тому +3

    I dig the new intro, Dave! Good job getting Mike on as well 👏

  • @JenovaImproved
    @JenovaImproved 2 місяці тому +1

    So much good info in here. "Most people only need side delt work", "Deficit deadlifts will bulletproof your back"

  • @devlin76
    @devlin76 2 місяці тому +2

    Great episode Dave! I look forward to Mike coming back to talk about strength training for sport.

  • @kusjr4388
    @kusjr4388 2 місяці тому +2

    Thanks alot fellas .❤❤❤

  • @Jegkedermigmega
    @Jegkedermigmega 2 місяці тому

    Awesome episode :) Lovely bante and info!

  • @charliearnold4459
    @charliearnold4459 Місяць тому +2

    Is it ok if I eat real quick 🥺🙂 god bless Dr Mike what an angel

  • @albertpaxton4855
    @albertpaxton4855 2 місяці тому +1

    Great video! can't wait for next one!

  • @AgentOfLogos
    @AgentOfLogos 2 місяці тому +1

    Nice episode! I haven't finished yet but hopefully you guys get into some strength training talk as well

  • @lametrain4991
    @lametrain4991 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for helping me get through some cardio!

  • @mithilaum
    @mithilaum 2 місяці тому +1

    Delightful. Loved it fellers

  • @mariusjohansen702
    @mariusjohansen702 2 місяці тому

    Liked this podcast a lot. Mike is always a good listen.

  • @dustinmartin4621
    @dustinmartin4621 2 місяці тому +4

    Amazing episode

  • @dfgndfghdfghdfgh
    @dfgndfghdfghdfgh 28 днів тому

    This took a few visits to finish as its so long but my god the amount of information is unbelievable.

  • @bethany2902
    @bethany2902 2 місяці тому +5

    Rack pulls with a wide grip, and right under my knees have helped me tremendously in that I’ve been breast-feeding for the last year and I have this giant baby to lug around so my upper back has been a mess. I noticed if I do them at least once a week it keeps things Pretty good for me. Other than that, I rather just do deadlifts because time and may as well hit everything

    • @user-cc9vw4mo6g
      @user-cc9vw4mo6g 14 днів тому

      Not gonna build strength or size with rack pulls, but I can see it helping you with functionality like you said. Most people just use it for ego obviously I’m not saying you do

  • @chaddragosflagstaffluxuryhomes
    @chaddragosflagstaffluxuryhomes 2 місяці тому +2

    Great real discussion.

  • @LetsEatSomethingNew
    @LetsEatSomethingNew 2 місяці тому +16

    Could they put a wind screen over the microphone? Their breathing is like listening to 2 pugs try to eat a Sack full of peanut butter

  • @syrupnuggt
    @syrupnuggt 2 місяці тому +2

    Great podcast.
    The Dr. spittin fax

  • @brianjackson4177
    @brianjackson4177 2 місяці тому

    Those two topics at the end would be amazing!!

  • @emmang2010
    @emmang2010 2 місяці тому +2

    awesome episode

  • @John_on_the_mountain
    @John_on_the_mountain 2 місяці тому +3

    Weed use totally blew up when it was legalized lol. I now know no one who doesnt smoke. Everyone hitting their pens all day, edibles all the time, etc lol

  • @albertpaxton4855
    @albertpaxton4855 2 місяці тому +4

    Great video! Mike is right, Trainspotting is awesome

  • @JoshuaMarley-mj5cs
    @JoshuaMarley-mj5cs 2 місяці тому +5

    Pardon the departure from training talk but... is Dr. Mike sporting a GBRS Group T-Shirt? Because that's a collaboration I would die to see. Praise be to Space King.

  • @nunosanfins
    @nunosanfins Місяць тому

    Amazing talk

  • @jamesjanotta2363
    @jamesjanotta2363 2 місяці тому +1

    Outstanding

  • @lowbarsociety8094
    @lowbarsociety8094 2 місяці тому +1

    My two favorite channels coming together again? Say less. LFG

  • @Mm-om9ol
    @Mm-om9ol 2 місяці тому

    Dr Mike always cracks me up 😂

  • @Funymoney010
    @Funymoney010 2 місяці тому

    Holy shit let’s go this is going to be awesome!

  • @briancavanaugh7604
    @briancavanaugh7604 Місяць тому

    Thank you Gentlemen!

  • @Esqud
    @Esqud Місяць тому

    Please do the strength and conditioning for sport athletes. I would love to watch a podcast about that!

  • @andyf5315
    @andyf5315 2 місяці тому +1

    Great episode. Even though you had to ruin my day with the alternating bicep curls thing shooting down one of my staples lol, I'll definitely be back for the sports strength convo. if you can make a note for that one to address what us old guys that are still active in sports can do that would be great! (52 yr old hockey goalie here)

  • @nb9797
    @nb9797 2 місяці тому

    Great content

  • @Damian.Williams
    @Damian.Williams 2 місяці тому +3

    After watching so many of friends speed run through life... I'm glad that I never took drugs/roids ... their health is ruined now but I'm still in the gym going strong...

    • @pricklycats
      @pricklycats 2 місяці тому +1

      I’ll probably start steroids once I’m
      like 50-60 or something and then for my last decade or two just use TRT lol

    • @Damian.Williams
      @Damian.Williams 2 місяці тому

      @@pricklycats my age now then as I'm 50 😂... I don't feel the need to take anything as I've been able to maintain most of size and strength and I always take care of the most important muscle I have which is my heart 😉

    • @Wetterwet
      @Wetterwet 2 місяці тому

      Same, but mushrooms are not too shabby

  • @shizzl0rable
    @shizzl0rable Місяць тому

    The point when you talked about that realist and the enabler one needs to be great: i think you both are both ! You are the reason that soooo many kids and young men and even older manlets like me are hyped for the gym ever fn day 😎😎

  • @thedolenorway
    @thedolenorway 2 місяці тому +1

    Mike saying he has never been to planet fitness makes me want to se Dave and Mike go there together!

  • @TheBigshot789
    @TheBigshot789 2 місяці тому +1

    The "non gym goers as civilians" was so funny 😂

  • @DantheSavageProject
    @DantheSavageProject 2 місяці тому

    Awesome

  • @CG-dh3ow
    @CG-dh3ow 27 днів тому

    Needs more views

  • @razman95x
    @razman95x 2 місяці тому +2

    I can attest that train spotting is an accurate depiction of opiate addiction and withdrawal. Don’t do sleepy drugs kids, unless you wanna potentially sleep forever.

  • @nzsaiantt
    @nzsaiantt 2 місяці тому

    Dr. Mike, remember big arms win every argument!

  • @Mr.Ciobanu
    @Mr.Ciobanu 2 місяці тому +1

    The fact that you had to stop the podcast for him to eat I think passed the meathead test!

  • @sutton_trout
    @sutton_trout 2 місяці тому +1

    Mike needs to come back and discuss the strength side!!

  • @Genital.Wartzenegger
    @Genital.Wartzenegger 2 місяці тому +4

    I wish you could do a dr mike monthly

  • @KasumovMedia
    @KasumovMedia Місяць тому

    Trainspotting is amazing. That baby scene is crazy.

  • @MUST-TRT
    @MUST-TRT Місяць тому

    “What’s a ‘strip set’…? It sounds sexy.” 🤣
    - gotta love Dr.Mike. 👊
    Nobody throws in more quality BS(aka humor) while dispensing such high quality, NON-BS content. One of a kind. Dare I say LEGEND.

  • @user-ii7xc1ry3x
    @user-ii7xc1ry3x 2 місяці тому

    Yeah Dave, get Dr Mike back for a Strength side and also a Sports side. But also, get him back for a Thirsty Comments side: search his channel's comments section, I'm sure you will find some interesting stuff...for entertainment's sake! just a light-hearted segment of a future podcast, you the right man for it.

  • @user-ri4mc6bb6q
    @user-ri4mc6bb6q 2 місяці тому

    Great

  • @maxxsstrengthandpowerlifti188
    @maxxsstrengthandpowerlifti188 2 місяці тому

    Im not a fan of a bro split. But they work well cuz of the crazy volumes and longer recovery. Plus you get cross over (with lower volume for the cross over exercises). Ex Some may do Biceps and Shoulders on the same day. Then 3 days later they do Back and Calves

  • @JamesAnderson-ez2df
    @JamesAnderson-ez2df Місяць тому

    I admire and love discussions about strength training and diet sprinkled with intelligence.👍,2025

  • @entre9199
    @entre9199 Місяць тому

    Funny and educationalish

  • @darrianweathington1923
    @darrianweathington1923 2 місяці тому +1

    2:30:24 cool, Dr. Mike finally noticed me... except I'm not mean...and I cant speak chinese, but I understand the example 😀❤

  • @Shady2x0Boyz
    @Shady2x0Boyz 2 місяці тому +3

    When Mike talks about getting off drugs for health reasons after competing a little more, does he mean completely off drugs or remaining on TRT (maybe including hCG)?

    • @666specter666
      @666specter666 2 місяці тому +1

      atleast TRT prob a little extra lets call it TRT+

    • @shorecasted9295
      @shorecasted9295 Місяць тому

      When they say that it usually depends on where PCT puts their natural levels. Generally levels don’t recover very well with decade+ of heavy use, so these guys will end up on TRT and will refer to that as “getting off drugs”. Like the other guy said, sometimes they’ll run something like primo as well, which isn’t really therapeutic TRT, but is conceptually pretty similar to a dude who has taken grams.

  • @Flahtort
    @Flahtort Місяць тому

    1:24:40 Why deadlifts tho and not a Jefferson Curl of some sort?

  • @topboi9392
    @topboi9392 2 місяці тому

    I’m confused so is the seated calve raise machine bad to do? Or was he just saying if you do it wrong it is bad, wrong as in overloading it with weight and doing half reps etc.

  • @michaelholder98
    @michaelholder98 2 місяці тому +1

    This was an epic start of a podcast bahahaha!!! The Are You A Meat Head? Questionnaire!!! Fucking hilarious! I think I’m a meathead as well…Marine Mike 🇺🇸 💪

  • @duffbeer989
    @duffbeer989 2 місяці тому

    Any tips for nice traps? Not the eddie murphy kind.

  • @ChristopherAndersonsj2great
    @ChristopherAndersonsj2great Місяць тому

    1:28:22 I like DB rows lol

  • @TevynSmith
    @TevynSmith 2 місяці тому +4

    How can someone maintain good mental health while consuming excessive steroids? I imagine the anxiety attacks must be intense.

    • @Meerjongfraumann
      @Meerjongfraumann 2 місяці тому +1

      “A friend” told me that you have to make sure your mental health is pretty solid, before you hop on gear. In addition, one’s partner should be informed, educated, and be somewhat on board. They can often be a good source of reason when the paranoia sets in, or when one is angry at the world and everyone on it for no reason. Lastly, the agreement should be made that your partner or a close friend can say “Hey, you are out of line, you need to come off.”, and if you agree to that, then it’s a good motivation to simply not let your emotions run out of control - because you don’t want to go off, therefore you’ll figure out how to handle mental sides.
      But I wouldn’t know any of this that is just what my friend told me😉😅

  • @Mr.PotatoAWESOMEFitnessTips
    @Mr.PotatoAWESOMEFitnessTips 2 місяці тому +1

    OK- a break to eat in the middle of the podcast makes him score 100 on the meathead test HAHAHA

  • @nicholaswarman1597
    @nicholaswarman1597 2 місяці тому

    Go Blue!

  • @donjuanmckenzie4897
    @donjuanmckenzie4897 2 місяці тому +1

    Is the meat-head test posted anywhere?

  • @Michael-qe1xo
    @Michael-qe1xo Місяць тому

    I love drugs. I quit around 3 years ago but I’ll probably use recreationally. They aren’t bad or life consuming if you can control it

  • @CarmenLout
    @CarmenLout Місяць тому

    Chihuahuas!!!! AHHHHHH omg this is the best comic strength routine ever

  • @everestl5426
    @everestl5426 2 місяці тому

    21:00 the prices smell like a laundromat

  • @victorcano8762
    @victorcano8762 2 місяці тому

    Dr. Izzy what up yeah hell yeah shit yeah my work day is better

  • @CarmenLout
    @CarmenLout 2 місяці тому

    I need the meathead screening list.

  • @kban77
    @kban77 2 місяці тому

    Wisdom

  • @jerzey22
    @jerzey22 2 місяці тому

    ❤❤❤

  • @wunderbaum69
    @wunderbaum69 2 місяці тому

    Requiem for a Dream is also a great movie to show the kids that drugs can be fun buuut with some side effects

  • @blackenedsprite8542
    @blackenedsprite8542 2 місяці тому

    I love that after that second question about eating it gives the impression that UK restaurants are all hoity-toity about clothing and won't let you in unless you're in Sunday best, your favourite monocle and father's top hat, when in reality that's bonkers and for the most part you can dress however the fuck you want.
    Now excuse me, my chariot is outside.

  • @JB-qt3wo
    @JB-qt3wo 2 місяці тому +1

    It is a burden injecting yourself everyday like a pin cushion. I still do it though because even though it is a burden….it is also fun 😈

  • @user-le8mk6fe4f
    @user-le8mk6fe4f 2 місяці тому

    Is it just me or are the time stamps off?

  • @NoQuadsNoMasters
    @NoQuadsNoMasters 2 місяці тому

    Mike is on less of a cycle than last time 😂

  • @jesusguzman1421
    @jesusguzman1421 Місяць тому

    2:34:32 😂😆🔥

  • @theusualyt
    @theusualyt 2 місяці тому

    "not that bad" hahaha

  • @NYstranger74
    @NYstranger74 2 місяці тому

    I always enjoy jacked David Draiman

  • @dinorij
    @dinorij 2 місяці тому

    1:24:50 😂

  • @tas1424
    @tas1424 2 місяці тому

    Yes Nandos!!