Gosh, I remember when this happened. I was just a little kid and it happened not too far from where I live. It was sad and scary. And afterwards, whenever us kids were getting too wild in the car, my dad would start acting like he was getting a leg cramp.😬
I feel bad for Delisle's mother. She had just lost her husband to suicide, then she lost all four of her grandchildren to murder in one shot, and her son went to prison for life for murder.
You think that really??? Why did she do Nothing to save her children? She did rescue and saved herself, but she is guilty too. She must have tried to save somebody in car , the infant or another child . So ein egoist!!! , Must be punished too!!!!!!😬😬
@@marielleo4715 DeLisle's mother they feel sorry for. She wasn't in the car with him and his family when he drove his car into the river. You're referring to his wife, they weren't.
You didn't care good"! LAWRENCE AND SUSANNE WERE ABLE TO ESCAPE THROUG THE WIND SCHEIB""-- says Dr. Grande. She was there and she saved her kwn life,but not the kids!!!!!!!!!!!
seems to me that this was a failed murder/suicide whereas he failed at the suicide but succeeded at murder. what a horrific way for those poor children to die.
The stress of the daily grind, the sacrifices made in a marriage and the pressure to financially provide for a family are undoubtedly challenging tasks that requires, among other things, courage. I can understand the despair but I can’t understand the murder. It’s hard to know what brings someone to commit the unimaginable. Thank you for another excellent analysis, Dr. Grande.❤
This is so sad that his family thought they were just out for a fun family trip 😢 I can't imagine what the conversation was like in that car before the crash 😩 The biggest tragedy is that he's the one who survived and not his children 🙄 Thanks for another great video, Dr Grande! Forever will be one of my favorite TC UA-camrs 👑 As always, much love from WV 🤙 🏔️ 💙 💛
He didn't want help. He wanted to be "free". This is a cold-blooded killer, not someone who cracked under mental strain. He cased out the street multiple times.
There was zero help back in them days. Nobody ever talked about depression anxiety,, you were either fat skinny tall or short I just turned 50 years old and think about doing everyday since I’ve been homeless living in a 28 year old Toyota van
If anyone watched the Netflix doc, or listened to grande said, it was STILL capable of committing more murder as the water trip hadn't killed it either. Unreal. What a tragedy.
Good evening, Dr. Grande! I am forever impressed with the ingenuity of people discovering new methods of making birth control retro-active. I sincerely doubt that the cause of the accident was a leg cramp. And as for married people normally feeling pessimistic, well, the first hundred years are always the hardest. Thanks for sharing.
I’m from Wyandotte, mi… i remember when this happened … we used to go south to monroe to drink .. we were cominghome outta monroe back to Wyandotte via Jefferson road north… we see all these cops and ambulance lights… we get out at McDonald’s and walk over to field when all these camera vans are .. this camera man comes flying into the van and we go look into the back windows . He puts in a video tape and we see them pulling kids body’s out of the water,a couple upside down by feet.. never will forget this ..we got ushered away by cops just after seeing this… was the “ biggest story of our town” we were just outta high school about a year.
The O.G. of psychological analysis, Dr. G! Thank you! You said everything that caught my attention. Especially rubbing his leg as a set up for the event. He didn't have a leg cramp, purposely steering between the poles to go into the water, taking that route. They went there the day before because he was scoping it out to see what he could do. Then he got the layout and mental picture in his head so the next night he could just make his turn and go barreling down the road to his mark between the poles and into the water. He prob intended for his wife to survive and the kids to drown and she would corroborate the leg cramp and having to pull his foot off the gas and he fig it would be ruled a tragic accident and he and his wife would live happily ( in his mind ) ever after, just the two of them. That's exactly what happened too. Except that the police didn't buy his story. What surprises me is the fact that the wife knew that he had told police he intentionally accelerated quickly and was going to slam on the brakes at the last minute to scare her but she still testified on his behalf. I mean, doing that would have terrified the children. Plus, jarring them around like that. They could have been badly hurt and who the heck tries to terrify their wife that their car is gonna wreck with their babies inside. He's twisted! You can see the b.s. in that story. Conveniently, at the time he decides to terrify her, with the brakes being an integral part of the scare, they just happen to not work and simultaneously the accelerator sticks. How can she not see that he premeditated the murder of their children. Clearly I do agree with you Dr. G. I feel that he is guilty of premeditated first degree murder beyond a reasonable doubt. Thx Dr. Grande! ❤ Oh, one last thing... Did either one of them even attempt to save any of their children at all?? Just asking because they both lived and between the two of them they couldn't get even one of their children out? Where were they when police got to the scene because you couldn't force me out of the water if my babies were trapped in a sinking car. Especially without emergency crews there yet trying to help. Just wondering.
I always wondered that too. I remember this being on the news when it happened. I was 12. Even then I thought why didn't they each grab a child by the arm. I wouldn't swim to the top without my kids. In a reenactment of the crime they said the baby Emily was sitting in the front in her car seat between both parents. How do you not save one child between two adults. Then they swam to the top and were rescued by a boat and just hugged each other. I would have been screaming that my babies are down there and trying to get to them.
Perks of driving with a manual transmission: you could technically still end up in a river, but it would be much more difficult to accomplish. For example, if the accelerator became stuck somehow, both the driver and the front-seat passenger could throw the car out of gear by pulling the gearshift. Plus the driver could not accelerate indefinitely without clutching and shifting gears.
@@KA-in6sx It's a running joke. However, lots of married people become fed up with each other but stay together for the kids or because a divorce is a hassle and expensive.
I've said it before, I'll say it again: It's AWESOME that doc breaks down Guilt in Actuality and Guilt Beyond a Reasonable Doubt. He even went a step further here and pointed out that not only did the judge have second thoughts...but Dr. G. himself did not feel like this guy got a fair trial. Many ppl may be of the opinion that 4children are dead and so what does it matter. But this is 1 of the Main principles our nation was founded upon AND certainly is a defining characteristic of a civilized society.
As somebody who builds cars and works on them, this guy is very suspect. Decided to take his family out but couldn't take it on life out, hope he's reminded of the coward that he is rest of his life. Another great video sir Yeah he may have had leg cramps but if he'd gotten out of the car he would have worked them all out. Sticky throttle cables too bad we didn't have the car yeah? Maybe 1 and hundreds thousands have to happen
@@rubyoro0 at the point my 4 kids were drowning and I already intended to die, I probably would've just let the Lake take me. Otherwise, why didn't he try to save his kids if he did it on purpose and he regretted it? Maybe he was just a terrible swimmer. It's just odd because I know that river. It's very, very slow. There had to be plenty of time to pull the kids out if it traveled 90 feet before sinking. I feel that the deaths of the kids could've been prevented in some way had someone with skill and knowledge been on hand, but, sadly, it seems like no one like that was around. Honestly, I want to see the evidence and the video footage for myself.
@@Thecommander248 You'd think one or both of the parents could've rescued at least one or two of the four kids, especially if they both could swim. Each grab a kid and swim.
Another fascinating analysis! Wonder if the good doctor would consider analyzing the relationship between the late, great Joan Crawford and her daughter Christina?
I've had some pretty bad leg cramps. I've thought about chopping my own leg off but not killing anyone else. I was more concerned with the searing pain in my leg.
I would guess that it was the terminal pressure to have to support a do-nothing wife that was only interested in shopping and breeding. She knew his income couldn't support all those kids but she kept having them anyway, then pressured him for a "big house" and all the trappings. On the day this happened, she wanted "new furniture for the children".... as if little kids cared about designer furniture.
How could he live with himself, killing all 4 of his children, even if it was a mistake? He is a monster in my book. He kills his whole family in sits in jail the rest of his life, rather than raise his kids? WOW
I had a 1967 ford fairlane and once the engine mount broke. I drove it like that for a few weeks. If i pushed the accelerator too far when starting from a stop, the accelerator would get pulled to the floor as the engine shifted, pulling the linkage until we got up to a certain speed and the torque on the engine decreased. But i don't really think that is what happened here. Seems like he wanted to go into the river
I'm not trying to judge the mom, but I'm gonna die drowning trying to save my kids from a sinking car. I've never understood how adults survive something like this while their kids die.
Where he grew up, lived and worked were lower income/ lower education areas. They should have practiced family planning. I think he was depressed and realized he was never going to get ahead. His whole existence was working long hours and financially supporting a family. Taylor housewives weren't known for homemaking skills. We had a mid 70's Ford station wagon and pulled a Colman pop-up camper all over the USA. They were known to be safe family cars.
Most people work long hours whether they have a family or not. Everyone complains that they're under paid and that their lives are like the movie 'Groundhog Day,' even upper middle class people do. Maybe very wealthy people don't, but they probably complain about something.
I think he married too young, had too many children too soon combined with heavy debt and boredom. He may have been depressed and suicidal. So he decided to end it in a moment of irrationality but when the car hit the water his desire to live kicked in so he did. He's guilty of killing his children.
I do not drive, but when I did I used to always check the amount of space to the right of the gas pedal in case my leg locked up. Any person that gets severe leg cramps knows what happened in this case. Severe leg cramps are not little 'charlie horse cramps. Your leg becomes totally locked and you get a very strong awareness of the locked muscle, not really pain but intense awareness, which supersedes anything else that might be on your mind. My opinion is that it has something to do with calcium, but whatever it is the locked muscles are easily reproducible and observable which should be tested with this individual. Give him a lot of calcium for one week, then no calcium the next week, and he will spend at least a few days incapacitated. Edit to add A funny story. Years ago I was driving a cab. At some point another driver drove up beside my cab and said 'call the police, you tripped an alarm' or something like that. The cab had an alarm system that was triggered by a small button to the right of the gas pedal. When I had straightened my leg a short while before I moved my right leg to the right of the pedal and tripped the alarm. The company I leased the can from never told me about the alarm but that incident surely generated some paperwork around roughly the late 90s or early 2000s. In fact if you go through the records of cab companies that have that kind of alarm you will probably find there are a number of people with that problem. I know exactly how he moved after his leg locked up, he moved his backside up and tried to straighten his leg, but if he was not used to that issue he would have had to almost stand up to get his foot off the gas. And there is a sort of panicky sensation that prevents a person from bending/contracting the leg so that is not an easy option regardless what people think. One more edit Dr Grande recites items from the interrogation without providing the actual video of the interrogation. I'm sure Dr Grande understands his mistake but it should be pointed out for others. A person can watch the Melissa Lucio interrogation, for example, which is on UA-cam, or study any of thousands of other similar ones which are described by people present or audio recorded. Police generally avoid video taping interrogations for just that reason since if you don't let people see how you get the suspect to say something you can pretty much get anybody to confess to anything. Brown v. Mississippi, (1936) made getting confessions by torture illegal in the U.S. but there are many other psychological techniques, such as the Reid technique, which reliably get confessions regardless of guilt or innocence.
Just wanted to add comment below. When the pedal stuck the car went full throttle. It took me about a quarter mile to get it under control & shut down. I was white as a sheet when i walked in & told my dad what happened.
I think he did it but I also think the wife might have played a part too. I questioned why they didn't try to get the kids out. Neither parent did and when a boat found them they didn't say " please help me my children are inside!" He didn't go back for them. I then thought back to them going to the drug store I thought " what if they drugged the kids so they couldn't get out?" Which means the wife would have knowledge too. I wonder if they got them Phenergan which I think ( quote me if wrong ) is used to calm kids down and he did say the kids was crying. I bet they didn't do a toxicology on the children, not back then. Though, I wonder if they tried to find what he got from the pharmacy..... Idk maybe I'm wrong but I do think he's guilty and I feel like she is too....
I had an experience with an 2002 Nissan Altima. I did have the accelerator get stuck to the floor for a few moments and had to push the brake with both feet for the car to stop. That was awfully scary. It only happened one time thank god.
Thank you for another infotaining presentation. You manage to use humor in it's right place, even though it was a tragic event. What about the wordplay? I hope you still do that. Being a poet and general word-nerd, I enjoy your alliteration. Thanks again from New Brunswick, Canada.🌵
I always hear stories like this, or about house fires where the adults get out, but the children don't. I don't know if it's the mother in me, but if my children didn't survive, would I want to? I don’t think he mentioned it, but did anybody try to go back for the children? I don’t want to blame the wife, but if my husband drove us into the river, I'm not sure I would be as forgiving.
I believe that he was probably guilty but there is plenty of room for reasonable doubt. That is primarily based on the tests on the accelerator linkage and plates which backs up his story and his wife's about lifting his foot off the pedal. Of course, he could have known of the accelerator problem and used that as an excuse. There was no indication of prior behavior which would have pointed to the incident. There were many flaws in his trial such that he should have been granted a retrial.
Can you cover the case of the man who drove his two small children out into the Outback and abandoned them there? (They survived, if I'm remembering correctly)
please can you do something on the Sing family murders in Brisbane Australia by Max Sica no one has done anything on them and they are very very “ interesting” but not got any information
Right where he drove his family into the Detroit River me and a friend were sitting in that very spot about 45 minutes before he did it, throwing rocks into the Detroit river. Soon as we heard this happened, my friend, and I were both in total shock because we could have a very easily been sitting there when he come barreling through. I was raised in the town of Wyandotte where this happened. And it absolutely rocked our little town, because nothing like this happens there. The barrier that he went through to hit the water was in all honesty insane. When you went down Eureka, the only thing that stopped you from driving into the Detroit river, and what he actually blasted through wasn’t any kind of official guard rails. It was three railroad ties Buried down in the dirt, I don’t know how many feet deep, but the three railroad ties stood about 3 feet out of the ground. If you know anything about railroad ties, they are just planks of wood about a half a foot all the way around. Not strong at all, and if you stood there and kicked long enough and we’re strong enough I’m sure you could break one in half. Three of those about 2 feet apart is what was supposed to “Stop” someone from driving into the Detroit river. He didn’t drive between them as you stated in your video, because they weren’t far enough apart. He completely blasted right through them. Most people thought he was guilty from the next day after it happened. But what really hurt him and his wife was a couple days later they agreed to do a live interview on the news, and clearly they were stoned on something, whether it be prescription drugs, or illegal drugs I don’t know because I was only 13. But it was clear to see they were on something, and that killed them with the public. Wyandotte didn’t really have a dive team as is mentioned in a lot of these videos. Mostly when it happened it was in uniform police officers diving into the river and swimming down and trying to get these kids out. we are a small towel, so we all know who the cops were that bravely dived down. It really affected a lot of them for the rest of their careers.
Wow! How sad that "despondency & pessimism are not uncommon in married people." Marriage should be bliss, but I get why they fail, more love of self than God & others -greed.
Your comment about how the 70’s ford was still able to kill people floating in a river made me crack up!!! The lack of canned laughter makes your humor hilarious!😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
If memory serves me right, at the time it was reported that Mrs. DeLisle had attempted to unbuckle the youngest child, who I seem to remember was in a car seat in the front of the car between her and Lawrence.
What a piece of human garbage, those poor babies. Like you mentioned, I would rather drive the car into a wall or car before it ever reached the river. And I definitely wouldn't have left the vehicle without trying to rescue my own children if I was in that case. Is absolutely guilty, and I'm pretty sure has a special place in hell
If you have time, read about the “Pinto Memo.” Ford did a cost benefit analysis comparing the cost of repairing the fuel system in all ford Pintos vs. the cost of paying out lawsuits to the families of those that were burned to death. One article says “it’s cheaper to let them burn!”
Absolutely Lawrence was guilty. Like an immature child, he refused to accept the responsibilities of adulthood. No one forced him to be a husband and father.
This exact same thing happened to me when i was 16 years old. My dad had a 1967 ford station & the motor mount broke . The gas pedal stuck & i was in the fight of my life. My dad worked for ford for 35 years & this was a well known problem Ford covered up. If i had not had the driving coarse i had i could have been killed. He should not be in prison.
It was a sad story but there is so much we can learn from it - how easy a family can change their situation for worse or better- 4 kids never had a chance- sad and painful- the mom got married again- same old same old ways - never change - definitely depend of your self as a mother also to protect and provide for your own kids - don’t expect the man do it all - cause sometimes they break in the middle ( they married young , before each get a college degree, good income - soon bringing more kids - even when they already stressed- yet another baby was add to a stressful situation 😢- my heart breaks for the kids who had no say on this situation- they lost it all - the father became a killer of his own kids and mom started a new marriage- Sad situation without a help they didn’t have a chance Why she ignored all the screaming her man did !!! She just didn’t understood either..
He's 100% guilty and he deserves to rot in jail with other prisoners who know what he did. I don't care how depressed he was. He wasn't depressed enough to take his own life. He let his children die. At first, he said he should be executed and now he wants to be released. Why? So he can enjoy life? If I had four of my own children's screams for help and deaths on my conscience, I could never enjoy a good night's rest, let alone a meal, a social gathering, a recreational activity etc. etc. Own up to what you did ant rot in prison, followed by Hell!
In your final thoughts why didn't his wife's comment that she lifted his foot two inches of the accelerator get mentioned? I think that your conclusion as to what happened are correct but I do believe that the accelerator got stuck. I don't think his wife would have made that up. It could have been a floor mat his shoe or a mechanical issue or combination of more then one of them. Irregardless it doesn't change his responsibility and ultimately his guilt.
Two bedrooms and four children. The math does not work! Haven't these people heard of family planning? But then pretty soon there won't be any family planning!
You've lost a lot of weight Dr Grande 😮 I truly hope you're taking care of yourself 🙏 It can't be easy being surrounded by so much negativity like you are. I firmly believe that in your spare time Dr Grande you shld use some of it doing and thinking positive thoughts and actions to counteract all that neg you're living in xx
Had a 97 Chevy. Throttle cable frayed. Got stuck accelerating. It takes a moment for your brain to figure out what the heck is going on and respond to it. I was on a highway so a crash wasn't likely but yikes, it puts the fear of God in you.
I worked with Larry at a Tireman tire store in Allen Park in 1985(he was the wheel alignment mechanic back then) and I remember him being a strange dude back then. When I saw this on the news back in the 80s my first thought was what kind of mechanic doesn't know to turn the key halfway back when the gas pedal is stuck on the floorboard.
He earned little money, only 31.000 USD in the 80s, and they had 4 kids, 6 persons to feed. But he cannot do this. Life goes on, maybe if the children get a little older, the mother could work part time or on 2 days a week. And when they get 18 maybe the children earn a little money too on the weekend or so? There are only some very hard years and then it will get better.
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Gosh, I remember when this happened. I was just a little kid and it happened not too far from where I live. It was sad and scary. And afterwards, whenever us kids were getting too wild in the car, my dad would start acting like he was getting a leg cramp.😬
Those were the days, when parents could use terror to control their kids. We have no leverage now.
That's terrible. I'm sorry your dad did that. I'm sure he didn't realize how bad that is.
That's something my dad would have done too. Dark humor.
@ChelseyJianni chill
Lol
I feel bad for Delisle's mother. She had just lost her husband to suicide, then she lost all four of her grandchildren to murder in one shot, and her son went to prison for life for murder.
That poor woman. How awful.
You think that really??? Why did she do Nothing to save her children? She did rescue and saved herself, but she is guilty too. She must have tried to save somebody in car ,
the infant or another child . So ein egoist!!! , Must be punished too!!!!!!😬😬
@@marielleo4715 DeLisle's mother they feel sorry for. She wasn't in the car with him and his family when he drove his car into the river. You're referring to his wife, they weren't.
You didn't care good"! LAWRENCE AND SUSANNE WERE ABLE TO ESCAPE THROUG THE WIND SCHEIB""-- says Dr. Grande. She was there and she saved her kwn life,but not the kids!!!!!!!!!!!
@marielle o Jesus Christ, you guys really do not read. They are not talking about his wife, they are talking about his mother. It's pretty clear.
seems to me that this was a failed murder/suicide whereas he failed at the suicide but succeeded at murder. what a horrific way for those poor children to die.
It's astounding how many family annihilatora "fail" at suicide.
The stress of the daily grind, the sacrifices made in a marriage and the pressure to financially provide for a family are undoubtedly challenging tasks that requires, among other things, courage. I can understand the despair but I can’t understand the murder. It’s hard to know what brings someone to commit the unimaginable.
Thank you for another excellent analysis, Dr. Grande.❤
I agree. If he wanted to be 'free' why didn't he pack a bag and leave? Why did it have to include the death of his family?
4 kids and a $31,000 yearly income....that'll do it
@@crysp-mv9ss if he didn't have a great income then why have four children? 🤔 maybe he didn't know about birth control.
@@reneethorn145 ask him.
@@reneethorn145he was young
This is so sad that his family thought they were just out for a fun family trip 😢 I can't imagine what the conversation was like in that car before the crash 😩 The biggest tragedy is that he's the one who survived and not his children 🙄 Thanks for another great video, Dr Grande! Forever will be one of my favorite TC UA-camrs 👑 As always, much love from WV 🤙 🏔️ 💙 💛
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@T Raybern sick
It’s to bad people don’t know when to ask for help. Thanks Dr. Grande for another fascinating video.
Even worse when people ask for help & dont get it.... the systems fucked so even if he wouldve asked he probably wouldn't have gotten it.
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He didn't want help. He wanted to be "free". This is a cold-blooded killer, not someone who cracked under mental strain. He cased out the street multiple times.
He probably wouldn't have qualified with his income and didn't have a father or siblings.
There was zero help back in them days. Nobody ever talked about depression anxiety,, you were either fat skinny tall or short I just turned 50 years old and think about doing everyday since I’ve been homeless living in a 28 year old Toyota van
this station wagon had 5 confirmed kills...definitely gives Christine a run for her money!
It's like Maximum Overdrive all over again 😂
I don't find any of this funny. There are dead children here!!!
If anyone watched the Netflix doc, or listened to grande said, it was STILL capable of committing more murder as the water trip hadn't killed it either. Unreal. What a tragedy.
Good evening, Dr. Grande!
I am forever impressed with the ingenuity of people discovering new methods of making birth control retro-active.
I sincerely doubt that the cause of the accident was a leg cramp.
And as for married people normally feeling pessimistic, well, the first hundred years are always the hardest.
Thanks for sharing.
Retroactive birth control, I see what you did there!
"Retroactive birth control" 😮that's ingenious 😂
Sad, but true
Goes hand to hand with preventive obituary !
Yeah he’s a real wordsmith alright.
Fart.
"I'm really impressed by child killers"
Stay out of jail Andreas
😢 those poor children
I’m from Wyandotte, mi… i remember when this happened … we used to go south to monroe to drink .. we were cominghome outta monroe back to Wyandotte via Jefferson road north… we see all these cops and ambulance lights… we get out at McDonald’s and walk over to field when all these camera vans are .. this camera man comes flying into the van and we go look into the back windows . He puts in a video tape and we see them pulling kids body’s out of the water,a couple upside down by feet.. never will forget this ..we got ushered away by cops just after seeing this… was the “ biggest story of our town” we were just outta high school about a year.
I used to live in Wyandotte as a kid. It’s not “dote” or “dough” but “dot” rhymes with “spot.” Why-un-dot.
Down river.
Thanks 4 the lesson!
The O.G. of psychological analysis, Dr. G!
Thank you! You said everything that caught my attention. Especially rubbing his leg as a set up for the event. He didn't have a leg cramp, purposely steering between the poles to go into the water, taking that route. They went there the day before because he was scoping it out to see what he could do. Then he got the layout and mental picture in his head so the next night he could just make his turn and go barreling down the road to his mark between the poles and into the water.
He prob intended for his wife to survive and the kids to drown and she would corroborate the leg cramp and having to pull his foot off the gas and he fig it would be ruled a tragic accident and he and his wife would live happily ( in his mind ) ever after, just the two of them.
That's exactly what happened too. Except that the police didn't buy his story. What surprises me is the fact that the wife knew that he had told police he intentionally accelerated quickly and was going to slam on the brakes at the last minute to scare her but she still testified on his behalf. I mean, doing that would have terrified the children. Plus, jarring them around like that. They could have been badly hurt and who the heck tries to terrify their wife that their car is gonna wreck with their babies inside. He's twisted! You can see the b.s. in that story. Conveniently, at the time he decides to terrify her, with the brakes being an integral part of the scare, they just happen to not work and simultaneously the accelerator sticks. How can she not see that he premeditated the murder of their children.
Clearly I do agree with you Dr. G. I feel that he is guilty of premeditated first degree murder beyond a reasonable doubt.
Thx Dr. Grande! ❤
Oh, one last thing... Did either one of them even attempt to save any of their children at all?? Just asking because they both lived and between the two of them they couldn't get even one of their children out? Where were they when police got to the scene because you couldn't force me out of the water if my babies were trapped in a sinking car. Especially without emergency crews there yet trying to help. Just wondering.
I always wondered that too. I remember this being on the news when it happened. I was 12. Even then I thought why didn't they each grab a child by the arm. I wouldn't swim to the top without my kids. In a reenactment of the crime they said the baby Emily was sitting in the front in her car seat between both parents. How do you not save one child between two adults. Then they swam to the top and were rescued by a boat and just hugged each other. I would have been screaming that my babies are down there and trying to get to them.
And back then they probably weren't wearing seat belts. They should have been even easier to get out of the car.
The vehicle was equipped with a steering wheel that would turn either way......🤣
You are classically clever with your critiquing comments. Thank - you!
Perks of driving with a manual transmission: you could technically still end up in a river, but it would be much more difficult to accomplish. For example, if the accelerator became stuck somehow, both the driver and the front-seat passenger could throw the car out of gear by pulling the gearshift.
Plus the driver could not accelerate indefinitely without clutching and shifting gears.
downside of a manual, you end up with twice as many leg cramps and are twice as likely to drive into the river
@@carlholland3819 not if you're used to it 😉
"It may indicate someone who is despondent and pessimistic. This is not uncommon among people who are married." Great Grande quote.
😂😂 someone definitely had a fight with the wife before recording this
Funny and yet very true statement 😅
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@@KA-in6sx It's a running joke. However, lots of married people become fed up with each other but stay together for the kids or because a divorce is a hassle and expensive.
I've said it before, I'll say it again: It's AWESOME that doc breaks down Guilt in Actuality and Guilt Beyond a Reasonable Doubt. He even went a step further here and pointed out that not only did the judge have second thoughts...but Dr. G. himself did not feel like this guy got a fair trial. Many ppl may be of the opinion that 4children are dead and so what does it matter. But this is 1 of the Main principles our nation was founded upon AND certainly is a defining characteristic of a civilized society.
As somebody who builds cars and works on them, this guy is very suspect. Decided to take his family out but couldn't take it on life out, hope he's reminded of the coward that he is rest of his life. Another great video sir
Yeah he may have had leg cramps but if he'd gotten out of the car he would have worked them all out. Sticky throttle cables too bad we didn't have the car yeah? Maybe 1 and hundreds thousands have to happen
Okay, but my question is, if he intended to die, why did he escape the vehicle instead of "going down with the ship"?
He regretted his decision.
@@rubyoro0 at the point my 4 kids were drowning and I already intended to die, I probably would've just let the Lake take me. Otherwise, why didn't he try to save his kids if he did it on purpose and he regretted it?
Maybe he was just a terrible swimmer. It's just odd because I know that river. It's very, very slow. There had to be plenty of time to pull the kids out if it traveled 90 feet before sinking.
I feel that the deaths of the kids could've been prevented in some way had someone with skill and knowledge been on hand, but, sadly, it seems like no one like that was around.
Honestly, I want to see the evidence and the video footage for myself.
@@Thecommander248 You'd think one or both of the parents could've rescued at least one or two of the four kids, especially if they both could swim. Each grab a kid and swim.
@@Thecommander248 im also surprised aqua man wasnt on hand
@@TheBOG3 seems a bit ridiculous, the car must've flipped.
Another fascinating analysis! Wonder if the good doctor would consider analyzing the relationship between the late, great Joan Crawford and her daughter Christina?
Yes! Analyze 'Mommie Dearest' and Christina Crawford, please. 🧠
Great idea for a vid, I'm surprised he hasn't done it...
That leg cramp must have been awfully painful for him to want to intentionally kill his children
I've had some pretty bad leg cramps. I've thought about chopping my own leg off but not killing anyone else. I was more concerned with the searing pain in my leg.
Mighty sore leg indeed
A `charlie horse' is excruciating and incapacitating.
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I would guess that it was the terminal pressure to have to support a do-nothing wife that was only interested in shopping and breeding. She knew his income couldn't support all those kids but she kept having them anyway, then pressured him for a "big house" and all the trappings. On the day this happened, she wanted "new furniture for the children".... as if little kids cared about designer furniture.
How could he live with himself, killing all 4 of his children, even if it was a mistake? He is a monster in my book. He kills his whole family in sits in jail the rest of his life, rather than raise his kids? WOW
This type of thing makes my blood boil. If you are miserable don't take it out on innocent people.
I had a 1967 ford fairlane and once the engine mount broke. I drove it like that for a few weeks. If i pushed the accelerator too far when starting from a stop, the accelerator would get pulled to the floor as the engine shifted, pulling the linkage until we got up to a certain speed and the torque on the engine decreased. But i don't really think that is what happened here. Seems like he wanted to go into the river
What a sad,sad story.
Please consider the Circleville Letters case? Thanks Dr.Grande.
I'm not trying to judge the mom, but I'm gonna die drowning trying to save my kids from a sinking car. I've never understood how adults survive something like this while their kids die.
Dead ass
You have absolutely no idea how you’d react. I’m a swim teacher. People won’t willingly drown themselves. Just stop.
Good evening Dr Grande, great analysis. Love your dry humor.
He couldn't use his left leg to hit the brake???
He confessed he didn't mean to hurt his babies
That's what I thought.
He didn’t want to. He doesn’t know why. My guess is he didn’t want to because that would make it harder to kill his family.
the left leg had sympathy pains
🌵🌵Hi, Dr. Grande!🌵I look forward to watching your case analyses each day. You are truly the best. Thank you for all you do 🙏🏻
Thank you Dr Grande. Looking forward to your comments on Terry Sanderson vs Gwaneth Paltrow ski crash case.
Yes!
He blamed a "leg cramp"???!!! I don't believe it!
Those poor children
Where he grew up, lived and worked were lower income/ lower education areas. They should have practiced family planning. I think he was depressed and realized he was never going to get ahead. His whole existence was working long hours and financially supporting a family. Taylor housewives weren't known for homemaking skills.
We had a mid 70's Ford station wagon and pulled a Colman pop-up camper all over the USA. They were known to be safe family cars.
Most people work long hours whether they have a family or not. Everyone complains that they're under paid and that their lives are like the movie 'Groundhog Day,' even upper middle class people do. Maybe very wealthy people don't, but they probably complain about something.
@@TheBOG3 ya they complain about us peasants
i agree, poor people shouldnt have babies. also ugly people
I think he married too young, had too many children too soon combined with heavy debt and boredom. He may have been depressed and suicidal. So he decided to end it in a moment of irrationality but when the car hit the water his desire to live kicked in so he did. He's guilty of killing his children.
Love your channel Dr Grande, always look forward to your analysis of these horrendous and heartbreaking cases. 4 very young lives lost , just so sad.
Late night, I listen to these to ease me to sleep.
What I do is record his voice and then overlay it with ambient music. 😂nah I’m kidding, but it’s possible
i thought i was the only one , if it weren t for the comercials id leave his videos playing while i drift to sleep lol
Same here..I wake up around 1am my time, then I peacefully fall back asleep after listening to his calming voice. ❤️
I would rather die trying to get my kids out of a sinking car than live with the guilt of surviving.
I do not drive, but when I did I used to always check the amount of space to the right of the gas pedal in case my leg locked up. Any person that gets severe leg cramps knows what happened in this case. Severe leg cramps are not little 'charlie horse cramps. Your leg becomes totally locked and you get a very strong awareness of the locked muscle, not really pain but intense awareness, which supersedes anything else that might be on your mind. My opinion is that it has something to do with calcium, but whatever it is the locked muscles are easily reproducible and observable which should be tested with this individual. Give him a lot of calcium for one week, then no calcium the next week, and he will spend at least a few days incapacitated.
Edit to add
A funny story. Years ago I was driving a cab. At some point another driver drove up beside my cab and said 'call the police, you tripped an alarm' or something like that. The cab had an alarm system that was triggered by a small button to the right of the gas pedal. When I had straightened my leg a short while before I moved my right leg to the right of the pedal and tripped the alarm. The company I leased the can from never told me about the alarm but that incident surely generated some paperwork around roughly the late 90s or early 2000s. In fact if you go through the records of cab companies that have that kind of alarm you will probably find there are a number of people with that problem. I know exactly how he moved after his leg locked up, he moved his backside up and tried to straighten his leg, but if he was not used to that issue he would have had to almost stand up to get his foot off the gas. And there is a sort of panicky sensation that prevents a person from bending/contracting the leg so that is not an easy option regardless what people think.
One more edit Dr Grande recites items from the interrogation without providing the actual video of the interrogation. I'm sure Dr Grande understands his mistake but it should be pointed out for others.
A person can watch the Melissa Lucio interrogation, for example, which is on UA-cam, or study any of thousands of other similar ones which are described by people present or audio recorded. Police generally avoid video taping interrogations for just that reason since if you don't let people see how you get the suspect to say something you can pretty much get anybody to confess to anything. Brown v. Mississippi, (1936) made getting confessions by torture illegal in the U.S. but there are many other psychological techniques, such as the Reid technique, which reliably get confessions regardless of guilt or innocence.
whats a cab?
The rubbing of his leg was likely part of the ruse
Just wanted to add comment below. When the pedal stuck the car went full throttle. It took me about a quarter mile to get it under control & shut down. I was white as a sheet when i walked in & told my dad what happened.
How horrific for those poor children.
I live in Michigan, right near Detroit but I don't remember this story! What a sad and tragic story. RIP to his children. 😢
I think he did it but I also think the wife might have played a part too. I questioned why they didn't try to get the kids out. Neither parent did and when a boat found them they didn't say " please help me my children are inside!" He didn't go back for them. I then thought back to them going to the drug store I thought " what if they drugged the kids so they couldn't get out?" Which means the wife would have knowledge too. I wonder if they got them Phenergan which I think ( quote me if wrong ) is used to calm kids down and he did say the kids was crying. I bet they didn't do a toxicology on the children, not back then. Though, I wonder if they tried to find what he got from the pharmacy..... Idk maybe I'm wrong but I do think he's guilty and I feel like she is too....
"It was one of those steering wheels that turns right and left". Classic Doctor Grande.
I had an experience with an 2002 Nissan Altima. I did have the accelerator get stuck to the floor for a few moments and had to push the brake with both feet for the car to stop. That was awfully scary. It only happened one time thank god.
Thank you for another infotaining presentation. You manage to use humor in it's right place, even though it was a tragic event. What about the wordplay? I hope you still do that. Being a poet and general word-nerd, I enjoy your alliteration. Thanks again from New Brunswick, Canada.🌵
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That made me lol 😂😂😂
The cactus King!!! 🌵
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I find myself looking forward to your comment on a daily basis! 😅 It's become part of the show!
@@darktower0603 yess 🙌 🤠💯
I always hear stories like this, or about house fires where the adults get out, but the children don't. I don't know if it's the mother in me, but if my children didn't survive, would I want to? I don’t think he mentioned it, but did anybody try to go back for the children? I don’t want to blame the wife, but if my husband drove us into the river, I'm not sure I would be as forgiving.
he shouldve asked for directions
I believe that he was probably guilty but there is plenty of room for reasonable doubt. That is primarily based on the tests on the accelerator linkage and plates which backs up his story and his wife's about lifting his foot off the pedal. Of course, he could have known of the accelerator problem and used that as an excuse. There was no indication of prior behavior which would have pointed to the incident. There were many flaws in his trial such that he should have been granted a retrial.
the courts dont have a 99% conviction rate for nothing
Always interesting.
Again outstanding humor
Thank you
Peace 💕🇺🇲
Can you cover the case of the man who drove his two small children out into the Outback and abandoned them there? (They survived, if I'm remembering correctly)
OMG! What year or decade did that happen? I never heard of that.
please can you do something on the Sing family murders in Brisbane Australia by Max Sica no one has done anything on them and they are very very “ interesting” but not got any information
That station wagon is a tank
Right where he drove his family into the Detroit River me and a friend were sitting in that very spot about 45 minutes before he did it, throwing rocks into the Detroit river. Soon as we heard this happened, my friend, and I were both in total shock because we could have a very easily been sitting there when he come barreling through. I was raised in the town of Wyandotte where this happened. And it absolutely rocked our little town, because nothing like this happens there. The barrier that he went through to hit the water was in all honesty insane. When you went down Eureka, the only thing that stopped you from driving into the Detroit river, and what he actually blasted through wasn’t any kind of official guard rails. It was three railroad ties Buried down in the dirt, I don’t know how many feet deep, but the three railroad ties stood about 3 feet out of the ground. If you know anything about railroad ties, they are just planks of wood about a half a foot all the way around. Not strong at all, and if you stood there and kicked long enough and we’re strong enough I’m sure you could break one in half. Three of those about 2 feet apart is what was supposed to “Stop” someone from driving into the Detroit river. He didn’t drive between them as you stated in your video, because they weren’t far enough apart. He completely blasted right through them. Most people thought he was guilty from the next day after it happened. But what really hurt him and his wife was a couple days later they agreed to do a live interview on the news, and clearly they were stoned on something, whether it be prescription drugs, or illegal drugs I don’t know because I was only 13. But it was clear to see they were on something, and that killed them with the public. Wyandotte didn’t really have a dive team as is mentioned in a lot of these videos. Mostly when it happened it was in uniform police officers diving into the river and swimming down and trying to get these kids out. we are a small towel, so we all know who the cops were that bravely dived down. It really affected a lot of them for the rest of their careers.
Wow! How sad that "despondency & pessimism are not uncommon in married people." Marriage should be bliss, but I get why they fail, more love of self than God & others -greed.
One of those vehicles that was equipped with a steering wheel that could turn either way 😂
Your comment about how the 70’s ford was still able to kill people floating in a river made me crack up!!! The lack of canned laughter makes your humor hilarious!😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Maybe I missed it….but did either of the parents attempt to save the children?
If memory serves me right, at the time it was reported that Mrs. DeLisle had attempted to unbuckle the youngest child, who I seem to remember was in a car seat in the front of the car between her and Lawrence.
Hi.Dr. Grande! Would love to hear your thoughts regarding the Gwyneth Paltrow case. Thx ☺️
What a piece of human garbage, those poor babies.
Like you mentioned, I would rather drive the car into a wall or car before it ever reached the river.
And I definitely wouldn't have left the vehicle without trying to rescue my own children if I was in that case.
Is absolutely guilty, and I'm pretty sure has a special place in hell
Great analysis Dr Grande 👍🏻
If you have time, read about the “Pinto Memo.” Ford did a cost benefit analysis comparing the cost of repairing the fuel system in all ford Pintos vs. the cost of paying out lawsuits to the families of those that were burned to death. One article says “it’s cheaper to let them burn!”
The Ford shade was epic
Ngl the title of this video immediately hooked me
This could have been premeditated and he faked leg cramps for a while until he drove into the water.
Semi late night grande time! 1105pm here now
Insert factor or hello fresh ad here 14:52 - great time for a segue
Their is so much rich irony in this delivery that I shall not need any extra helpings of Corn Flakes this
morning.
Absolutely Lawrence was guilty. Like an immature child, he refused to accept the responsibilities of adulthood. No one forced him to be a husband and father.
Laughed out loud at the marriage quote!!!
taking is shoes off like he is about to go swimming or something
This murderer is ridiculous and insults the memory of his childrens. No cramps can force you to push pedals anyway.
This exact same thing happened to me when i was 16 years old. My dad had a 1967 ford station & the motor mount broke . The gas pedal stuck & i was in the fight of my life. My dad worked for ford for 35 years & this was a well known problem Ford covered up. If i had not had the driving coarse i had i could have been killed. He should not be in prison.
yet your dad never considered replacing or reinforcing the motor mount? maybe he was also trying to kill you
I need to know where he gets his shirts from cause I'm buying the hole rack...come on man...😂😂😂😂😂
The only mistake he made: He didn‘t stay in the car.
Wyndotte is pronounced “Wine-dot” if you’re from Michigan. Always enjoy when you cover cases from here.
Those leg cramps can be murder! Great analysis as usual, Dr. Grande.
It was a sad story but there is so much we can learn from it - how easy a family can change their situation for worse or better- 4 kids never had a chance- sad and painful- the mom got married again- same old same old ways - never change - definitely depend of your self as a mother also to protect and provide for your own kids - don’t expect the man do it all - cause sometimes they break in the middle ( they married young , before each get a college degree, good income - soon bringing more kids - even when they already stressed- yet another baby was add to a stressful situation 😢- my heart breaks for the kids who had no say on this situation- they lost it all - the father became a killer of his own kids and mom started a new marriage-
Sad situation without a help they didn’t have a chance
Why she ignored all the screaming her man did !!! She just didn’t understood either..
He's 100% guilty and he deserves to rot in jail with other prisoners who know what he did. I don't care how depressed he was. He wasn't depressed enough to take his own life. He let his children die. At first, he said he should be executed and now he wants to be released. Why? So he can enjoy life? If I had four of my own children's screams for help and deaths on my conscience, I could never enjoy a good night's rest, let alone a meal, a social gathering, a recreational activity etc. etc. Own up to what you did ant rot in prison, followed by Hell!
In your final thoughts why didn't his wife's comment that she lifted his foot two inches of the accelerator get mentioned? I think that your conclusion as to what happened are correct but I do believe that the accelerator got stuck. I don't think his wife would have made that up. It could have been a floor mat his shoe or a mechanical issue or combination of more then one of them. Irregardless it doesn't change his responsibility and ultimately his guilt.
Two bedrooms and four children. The math does not work! Haven't these people heard of family planning? But then pretty soon there won't be any family planning!
How do you put four kids into one bedroom! Did the give the kids the bigger room, I wonder, and take the smaller one for themselves?
Very sad.. in fact, too sad for me to watch.
Married, despondent, and pessimistic- good one Doc.
I live here and have never heard of this!
You've lost a lot of weight Dr Grande 😮 I truly hope you're taking care of yourself 🙏 It can't be easy being surrounded by so much negativity like you are. I firmly believe that in your spare time Dr Grande you shld use some of it doing and thinking positive thoughts and actions to counteract all that neg you're living in xx
1:55 the most shocking thing about this video is when you said, "Thursday August the three" 😂
Hey man I think will make for an awesome podcast. Have you ever thought about starting a podcast? I’d definitely listen every time.
Can you analyze the case of Ari Liggett? Was he really criminally insane or was it deceiving?
Had a 97 Chevy. Throttle cable frayed. Got stuck accelerating. It takes a moment for your brain to figure out what the heck is going on and respond to it. I was on a highway so a crash wasn't likely but yikes, it puts the fear of God in you.
Who can you trust anymore?
Wi-an-dot is the pronunciation
I worked with Larry at a Tireman tire store in Allen Park in 1985(he was the wheel alignment mechanic back then) and I remember him being a strange dude back then. When I saw this on the news back in the 80s my first thought was what kind of mechanic doesn't know to turn the key halfway back when the gas pedal is stuck on the floorboard.
He probably knew that - he just didn’t know that in a moment of panic he would end up freezing. Jeeze this is such a bad take.
Why did he have to kill his children!? That's the tragic part of this story!
Thanks, Captain Obvious.
You're so witty!
Works at a tyre shop, tries to peddle a story about a leg cramp and stuck accelerator...ignition key stuck, too?
I dont know about anyone else, but if I couldn't have at least gotten 1 of my babies out of that car, I would have died with them.
Thank You Dr. Grande. ❤🌵
He earned little money, only 31.000 USD in the 80s, and they had 4 kids, 6 persons to feed. But he cannot do this.
Life goes on, maybe if the children get a little older, the mother could work part time or on 2 days a week. And when they get 18 maybe the children earn a little money too on the weekend or so?
There are only some very hard years and then it will get better.
omg this all happened where i live