Is The 2022 Toyota Sienna The ULTIMATE Snow-Ready Family Mover? Here's Your Answer!
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This video came at a opportune time. Since my third son was born last Wednesday, my wife and I are looking at 3 row vehicles with AWD. Thank you.
I have this exact van. A 2022 xse awd in the same color even. It's been a tank so far and always over 30 mpg and plenty of power. My only complaint is head room. Im 6'4" and the passenger seat is too high.
Congrats man! We got a 2021 w/AWD and it has been awesome. Can't really go wrong here in my opinion.
Congrats!!!!
I have a 21 which I use for roadtrips and camping. It's been amazing. 35 MPG all day long!
@Keyser Soze ouch! Just got a 22 XLE AWD at msrp. Has some packages. Out the door at $47k. But you’ll have the tow package too!
After a lift kit and dedicated snow tires, it would truly be unstoppable in the snow.
My wife and I just came home with this van today. Love it so far. Toyota really knocked it out of the park.
Hi
How long did you have to wait? My dealer is saying 2-3 months?
@@YouAhdaMnLie I think we waited roughly a month, but only because the spec we were looking for happened to already be making its way through the factory when our dealer looked.
I have the same XSE but a 2wd and it’s been awesome. Fits the family, the strollers, gets good mpg, great tech, reliably and comfy
Did you compare it to highlander or other minivans, and how is the noise level and interior quality feel compared to them?
@@Harry-uq9qd it is very quite and hybrid drive.
Using hybrid to get AWD is genius. Hope it becomes a more popular option.
I go ice fishing here in Minnesota and I see entire family on the lake with this van.
Is kinda impressive..
Journeys off road also makes 2 and 3 inch lift kits for it as well as wheel spacers. I'm 90% sure this is my next vehicle.
I don't see why Mini Vans get more Love. A 4wd/Hybrid Mini Van. Is the Perfect Road Trip/ Family Hauler...
I have owned a Sequoia, Corvette, 3 minivans and now a Durango. I’ve also owned 2 side by sides. Who gives a turd if some people think minivans aren’t cool, they are awesome to own! Have adult rear passengers and want to take a trip? In an SUV there are jammed up tight to the back of your headrest. In a minivan they can slide back, stretch their legs and enjoy the better view. There is also way more room for cargo. If I didn’t have to tow, I would ditch my Durango for a Sienna in a heartbeat!
..I wish they made a high clearance Sienna. (The woodland trim is only 0.5” higher)
@@stephenfiore9960 I agree completely. A while back I found a dealer had a video on lifting a Sienna. A factory option would be far more appealing and I think it would sell well. Thinking a wannabe Sprinter 4x4 for normal folks. Or at least a TRD lift kit.
I have done so well in the snow on my 13 limited awd . Love it. Family snow wagon is a good term
We got an LE last summer. It kickass. Love it.
I have the same one ( even the same color )
it does very good on icy and snowy roads 👌🏻
I saw Haystack Mtn! I used to live in Frederick and these videos always make me miss it. Great video btw
So glad you made this video as I was wondering if I made the right choice in mini van living in Eagle Colorado. Ordered my XSE awd a month ago . I get mine on Monday !
these are already being lifted here in Alaska. pretty excited to drive one later this year
It wouldnt be Nathan without the automotive enuendo!! Love it and quiet as kept, i really like this minivan. The pacifica is hard to beat tho
Nathan's reviews = gold
Very honest and best review as always
TFL + minivan = sexy, somehow! You rock, TFL team! 🤩
I wish I could find one of these on the lot to test drive.
Love the Review and the RUSH shirt!
Super impressive rallying!
Thank you, Nathan! Mini V Donuts!
My wife and I picked the exact same one in white up last weekend in Boulder from Larry H. Sigh… why you gotta tempt us to thrash it? Glad and proud to know it can do these things.
Journeys Off Road sells a 2” or 3” lift kit. 3” kit is only $575. Many problems solved.
I have one of their 2” kits on my Grand Caravan, and have a 3.5” kit on order for my 2006 Sienna AWD.
I would definitely buy a new Hybrid AWD Sienna as our next minivan.
@@americandude3825 I have the journey kit installed on my 21 Sienna. Overall, everything's been fine. Getting some minor creaking noises on the driver side dash since installed the lift. Had multiple shops check it out, no resolve. If you go this route, would love to hear if you experience that too.
@@americandude3825 Yeah, I was in the same boat. I found a dealership in PA who was willing to ship it to CA and it was still cheaper than buying local due to price hikes.
Is there limitations to wheel height/weight for the electric motors?
I don't trust their trash lifts. I bought one for mine to save time and their welds are atrocious. Almost as bad as their powder coating. They wouldn't even refund the shipping after mailed the kit back. It actually took 3 weeks for them to refund me too.
@@americandude3825 The Journey lifts suck. Just get smaller spacer blocks. Nothing can go wrong with those..
Thanks Nathan! Always positive reviews. We wanted initially trade Rav4 for new Sienna. But recentl sno on North East changed me. I saw few Sienna drivers shoveling snow around Sienna to get out . It is very low car. The competitor has recently reported fire on parked vans from battery's
Plz contact me about the hybrid cable corrosion safety recall.
I like these type of videos explain and go thorough there AWD system as they are very complex these days.
AWD hybrid Siennas have the same cable corrosion defect as the Rav4. Contact me for details.
Nathan is the metal rock man and probably the most fun to watch do reviews. Fantastic video
Love the snow drive
I would like see it snow covered uphill driving instead of making donuts, somewhere like Tommy did tire comparison tests, side by side with awd pacifica if possible.
Absolutely. Tommy should’ve gotten the rollers out and tested it on the rollers as well. The inconsistencies on this channel is showing.
I was thinking this exact same thing…thank god somebody else was too. I feel like this was not a good AWD test.
I was thinking EXACTLY the same thing... People want to know if it can climb the steep snow-covered driveway to the mountain house, not do donuts.
These guys don't know what they're doing. That's why their tests are such a joke and why I love watching.
@@veganpotterthevegan I’ve always been way too nice to say it…Their lack of knowledge drives me nuts, and when I read the comments of praise it makes me cringe… But I also really appreciate the effort they put in, the vehicles they get their hands on, and that they genuinely seem to enjoy giving the info to people…But they are a joke when it comes to any type of driving and are far behind other reviewers in their knowledge of vehicles..Still fun to watch.
Tried finding a platinum trim for months last year and never could, ended up getting a Pacifica Hybrid. Big mistake. It has been at the dealer now since December 21 with no estimated date to be fixed due to supply chain issues. Waiting on a power inverter module.
It never surprises me.
@@TaijiArban we ended up selling the Pacifica for $5k more than we bought it for after it got fixed.
@@John-vh1fk RIP to the one that bought it 😂
In Houstonnhere. How is the front seat comfort for long drives? How is the susover sharp bumps and the noise level?
I've had a 2017 for 5 years and it's the best snow vehicle I've ever had. It's better then my 4wd 1/2 ton pickup
Awesome shirt. RUSH!
Toyota really should capitalize on the commercial vehicle market with a Sienna variant
I upvoted for the Rush shirt alone.
We have this exact van. A 2022 xse awd in the ruby flare. Ours has been a tank and never gotten less that 30 mpg. The snow and the muddy yards have been effortless. Has plenty of power. Most of all it's a toyota. Hauls all our stuff. My complaint is the seats sit too high in the front. Also i wish the xse had the 17s like the xle. There's a lot of little changes between the awd and the 2wd. Like the black wheels, no ottomans, no 3rd row sun shades.
We've had our XLE for maybe a month. Have you experienced RCTA failure due to mud inside the bumper?
@@erikkpritchard nope its been flawless except the hvac had a whistle from a defective blend door. We have 6k miles on it so far and it's gotten pretty dirty.
Sienna has the cablegate corrosion defect like Rav4. Plz contact me about the safety recall.
I'm trying to get a new Sienna XSE in Colorado - I'm just waiting and waiting! Did you have an excellent dealer that got you one?
Any tow hooks? Just in case if your stuck and need a tug.
So I have a 2011 toyota sennia LE 109,00 miles front wheel drive still going strong total costs Maintenance 2date about 4,500 I want a new one so bad but can't justify getting it These things are just strong💪
Can it tow a 3000 lb pop-up up the mountain roads? What happens when the hybrid assist runs out?
Says what minivan he’d buy while wearing a Rush t shirt. 😔 it’s ok Nathan life comes at ya fast 💨 😂😂 great video he always makes me laugh.
as far as removing the mid row seats, a couple of notes from someone who did: the mid row seats contain the air bags for the rear bench seat passengers. if you remove the mid row seats, the rear passengers don't have airbags. I don't recommend removing the mid row seats and hauling people in the back, might not be *as* safe, but its still pretty safe. also, the seat rails don't come out easily, so you are left with a set of slide rails in the way, its very annoying. As far as the airbag system goes, disconnect the 12v battery thats in the back, unplug the seats, and use a 2.5ohm resistor for the air bag plug, the van doesn't know the difference. if you don't resistor the air bag circuits, the dash will pop up a warning that is not clearable and will cover everything . also, toyota at one point likely had the mid row seats removeable. how can I tell? with the mid row out, and the seats uplugged, it does not look for seatbelts or weights in the mid row seats, nor does it throw any codes or BCM errors, and the "seat belt lights" on the infotainment screen don't light up for the mid row seats upon first turn on.
I had a 2015 Sienna SE and it was a really good vehicle overall but when it came time to replace it, I didn't get the all new Sienna. I need a minivan first and foremost for cargo capacity. The non-removable second row seats was a deal breaker. Second, I need something that can get to the ski hill in snowstorm. The low ground clearance and lack of a mechanical AWD system didn't appeal to me. But if you're driving around the city all the time and don't need maximum cargo space, this might be the van for you--especially if it is as reliable as the previous generation.
As someone that transports people to ski for a living, I see no shortage of lowered WRX's get up Snowbird and Alta in Utah...some of the worst conditions in the country. Ground clearance is rarely an issue on roads going to ski resorts. Dealing with the parking lot is a different story once the plows can't get in there due to all the cars. But a Sienna's weight will more than make up for the low ground clearance.
*I'll happily drive my 95 300zx up the mountain with all weather tires and just a couple 45lb plates in the back. I have about 5" of ground clearance on the Z
When you want to go sideways in the snow with FAMILY.
Nathan, Did you say 35 mpg and AWD? The obvious question is - when will Toyota adapt this platform and start selling Hybrid delivery vans?
I was thinking the same thing. I’m looking to buy a van coming up here and I would of considered this Toyota if they offered it as a cargo version.
@@lawnmowerdude Ye the old Sienna sort of did with the L trim. No center console and the seat were removal or flat
Too much competition. Ford and Nissan and gm own the cargo van market. Toyota won’t invest in it because it’s not worth their time and money even tho the products will sell.
Ford and gm will under price the Toyotas just to take the sales. Even tho ford and gm are as reliable as a politicians promise.
Around wet corners its a FWD just like the Odyssey, so the one you'd rather have is the one with the best tires installed.
Dig the RUSH shirt! 🤘🤘
One thing missing when see these “dumb but fun things to do in a minivan” is the response from someone sitting in the 3rd row😂.
1x(10/20/22)…..at time 1:48 he discusses ground clearance & later he discusses problem that come with putting on a trailer hitch….done thank you excellent
I had this as a rental and the impression that remained with me was the engine noise that came with any thing above gentle acceleration. Wish Toyota could make it quieter in in the 3000 to 5000 rpm range, engine noise is really noticeable even though a year has passed since I last drove it. I hear it's more subdued in the Highlander hybrid version but need to verify.
For the RAV4, they made insulation that can be put under the hood to reduce noise.
nailed it 🤜
So it's OK on the flat but what about starting on a hill?
We absolutely love our new awd Sienna, thanks for sharing this video. It’s so comfortable, spacious, efficient and capable. Nothing out there quite like it. Side note: no one in the real world needs to remove the second row seats.
Being able to take out the (or stow) the second row is one of the best things about mini-vans. Makes it easy to haul mountain bikes, 4x8 sheets, or a lot of furniture. Vans are actually one of the most secure way to transport bikes around.
@@afoolishman12 Toyota correctly assumed that the customer base would prefer safety, in the form of curtain airbags over removable seats. If you’re hauling sheets of plywood, or furniture, buy a truck or rent a trailer. If you’re using it for mountain bikes, they will fit in there with the second row seats slid forward.
@@afoolishman12 the second row seats move all the way against the passenger or driver seats, there’s plenty of room, and I haven’t tried it, but supposedly you can still haul 4’ x 8’ plywood panels
standing up on it’s side and between the second row seats
Are you kidding me. When we lived in Colorado and I would go solo for the weekend mountain biking I would take out the second row seats, drop the third row seat and I could store my mountain bike and myself sleeping inside the van for the night. Being able to take out the second row seats is absolutely beneficial to anybody who uses their minivan for other things besides hauling people.
Guess you never camped before...
Thanks for the review, been pricing the Sienna AWD, against a base Yukon XL 4x4 and its a good $18k difference. both are good people movers, but Sienna gets the MPG while the Yukon has the hulling capability.
Yukon Xl diesel gets 26 mpg for the 4x4 but costs $60-65k.
I wish there was a sequoia XL. I would not care the price or mpg haha.
I love my sequoia but the Sienna is bigger inside.
That is my dilema… buy a sienna awd now or save more money and buy a yukon xl diesel by the end of the year
@@jminaya90 just checked My local Toyota dealer. Sienna wait list is 70+ people and it will take ten months possibly. Thankfully I can wait.
@@americandude3825 I don’t know where you live but here in PA (east side) i saw a lot of siennas in the show room I don’t know is they already sold or what version is but i saw a lot also carvana has many even with low mileage lower than 3k miles (not all awd)
@@jminaya90 i grew up in PA! Y’all’s gas prices right now are awful compared to south eastern area like va and North Carolina.
best looking van
..I like the looks of a Honda Odyssey, but Toyota reliability and mpg. Want a Toyota
3 star for driver side safety rating! Careful!
AWD is not needed for most families unless you live in heavy snow areas. I am in Toronto and usual 2 wheel drive with winter tires are enough.
In my experience it has a lot more to do with your local terrain than how much snow you get. I used to live in Edmonton, Alberta and FWD was pretty much always fine, because 99% of the roads were flat or a slight incline. When it is snowy and cold with FWD you accelerate a bit slower, but no big deal. AWD doesn't help you stop any faster, so it's not any safer on flat roads.
Now I live in the Okanagan, and our next minivan will definitely be AWD even though our winter is milder here. That's because only about half the roads are flat, there are lots of roads that are substantially inclined and it's not uncommon to find roads with pretty extreme inclines. On these inclines AWD makes the difference between getting completely stuck or needing to turn around vs. getting to your destination. Also, in circumstances where you are needing to accelerate uphill to stay safe (like an uphill left hand turn we need to make every time we drive to our house), AWD could avoid some big problems.
Watch you do donuts kind of makes me want a minivan lol
We were considering this exact spec, makes a ton of sense if you need a three row, road trip capable, all season vehicle. My only concern is battery pack life and the eventual need to replace it if keeping the vehicle fit super long term. We are probably unusual in our rationale but looking for a daily driver, durable, long term low upkeep, 3 row that is a road trip machine. Under those criteria we decided on a 22 SR5 Premium 4 runner 3 row. Yes aware of the comparative lack of space and economy but utmost reliability, build quality, and the plus of having another capable 4wd for backcountry travels makes it the best choice for us. I want to embrace the new hybrid stuff but I fear the longterm upkeep. And by longterm, we are looking fir a 20-25 year device Luce for us. Which I realize is a bit strange... but also the reason I think these kind of old school SUV’s will hold their value well.
Btw, I think a revisit of the final year of the 4Runner and the virtues of being the last true Old school rig on the market would be a cool story. And showcase the capability of a more base one like an SR5.
Toyota warranties the hybrid battery for 10 years or 150k miles.
The warranty the hybrid components for 8 years or 150k miles.
The cost to replace the hybrid battery is anywhere from 5-10k. But the battery usually lasts 180-200k miles.
@@americandude3825 yeah and I think that’s really good for a hybrid/battery warrantee. My last Land Cruiser I had for 20 years. I want something that can really last and out on the miles. That’s the only way I justify spending what a new Toyota costs these days. And while that warrantee is good, at 150,000 to 200,000 miles I would be looking at a 5-10k service to replace the battery, possibly higher given inflation in 10 years time. So saying I wanted to keep it for 10 years versus 20, then I would be faced with selling a vehicle that is known to need a full battery replacement in the near future. I would have to think that would have a big impact on the resale. As much as the mpg’s and Toyota’s good track record with hybrids is, for me it doesn’t offset that possibly giant monetary risk between 150-200k miles. Whereas with the older Sienna and a current 4 Runner, with routine upkeep they can exceed 400k miles without needing major work. The taxi industry was really bummed when they switched to a hybrid as the gas Sienna was a staple in the sector that saw huge service life in harsh driving conditions.
@@Kristian_Saile
4runner: 200,000 miles at 19mpg at $4 per gallon= $42,105
Sienna 200,000 miles at 35mpg at $4 per gallon= $22,857
That’s over $19,000 in fuel savings with the Sienna. And those batteries are known to last well over 300,000 miles, potentially saving you more.
@@thekongman6828 are they making 300k regularly? I hear all these anecdotal cases of them going bad before 200. We live in a northern environment with extreme cold and likely large demands on the battery, I have heard cold weather is better for battery life than warm but despite that I hear from people I know who had bad experiences with Prius batteries. One friend was absolutely furious about it around 150k and had nothing to say positive about the experience. Maybe it’s related to our climate around here though 🤷♂️
Rush kick a$$, rock on!
We’ve been contemplating about trading in our 21 Rav4 for a Sienna for the added space
..Yah, 1st I wanted a Prius Prime then aRAV4 Prime, then a Hybrid Highlander, but am tending toward a Toyota Sienna Hybrid now
There is one versio that comes with stock .5" lift and it only comes in Cement and one other color. I'll stay tuned for an upgrade lifted vehicle. Also raise the interior roof. And make the rear lights bigger to see like the old ones. And a bigger engine. I will wait for that review with the update.
…..It’s called the woodland trim. It comes in two color choices I believe
Our 20 mpg with the cold weather and continental cross contact tires we put on it 😔
If I am driving up Vail pass in snow is there ever a point that I could be without allwheel drive or will (ice) always make enough battery power to drive mg3. I have an xse on order and that is my worry. Everyone so far says welll probably. Thanks
…good question
Would a 3inch lift with all terrain tires greatly affect the mileage?
Yes
I’ve been waiting for mine since November. No sign of it yet.
Hey Nathan we have the Toyota Sienna Woodland version with the higher ground clearance if you want to compare.
I was just thinking he didn't mention that option for ground clearance. I also have michelin cross climate 2 on mine and it gets thru the snow like a beast
So I watched the rest of the video and he mentioned it at the very end!. Gas mileage for me in temps around 20-30 degrees is around 31mpg of driving harder and 33-34 driving easier. If it's over 40-50 I get around 35-37mpgand above 50 I get 38-40 and my personal best is a summer day with minimal ac and I got 45.6mpg over a 320 miles of mixed driving. I usually drive 320 miles every 2 days.
@Varanont Ruchira NICE...!! Love to see that trim with a practicality of a minivan with crossover suv like ground clearance for active life style. Congratz. Here in CO something like Honda Odyssey is useless without AWD option and won't get the confidence of having your family on a long trip with a Fiat-Chrysler product.
I mention it at 11:05
@@NathanDAdlen yes but its for sale already and you made it seem like you couldn't get it now! Well you probabilities still can't with how sparse supply is!
Rented the Pacifica. Extremely comfortable, nice to drive, great cup holder / front storages. However, it has stupid and fiddly controls on top of being a "Chrystler". So nice though that it actually makes me want to check out other mini vans. Hybrids are an automatic disqualification.
You guys should've tested the Woodland Edition.
They didn't give us one yet. I mention it at 11:05
@nathan adlen Ahh right, i didn't even watch til that part, my bad! 😅
Waiting on the plug in hybrid version to replace my 2006 Sienna AWD. Hopefully Toyota makes that happen.
Toyota Sienna prime !
@@americandude3825 But needs to be AWD otherwise I will buy a different Toyota PHEV. Hoping there will be lots to choose from in the next two years.
@@aharquail agreed. Once having AWD I don’t want anything else.
Can an off road kit be put on this van's front & rear suspension to lift it 1.5 inches?
Yes, journey
I started to like those minivan more than suvs
Don’t be scaring Geoff like that. He wont come back and then we wont know, “Does it fit?”
Is this same 4-four system in the RAV4 hybrid?
Similar in tech, but different output and performance
Same exact AWD hybrid corrosion defect as the Rav4. Contact me about the safety recall.
still waiting for an update on a higher ground clearance sienna minivan
AWD get less MPG , but not this E-AWD. you actually can get higher MPG if you can control the regenerative braking better. the motor on the back also adds additional regenerative braking to charge the battery compare to the 2wd version.
So which one do you think is better, awd or 2wd? The price is 2000 more
@@AaAa-pp1cr I will pick awd for all my vehicles if possible. you don't need awd 99.9% of the time you drive. it is always that 0.1% that gets you. It is a little scary driving a 5000 lb vehicle with a couple kids on the back on a rainy cold morning going up a hill and the two front tires slip and you don't have 4wd. I hope this info helps. :) I will suggest to pick trim model that comes with 18inch wheel instead of upgraded 20 inch for just the look.
@@JCJourney thanks so much
i want one so bad
I’d have much preferred seeing it go up the snowy hill and Nathan’s Crack. Doing doughnuts in a field isn’t really a good representation of its capabilities.
Yea, what point was the demonstrated how the power is fed to the rear wheels. It won’t go up on rollers, and it is an easy graphic representation. On top of that, it was fun.
@@NathanDAdlen I can definitely understand your point. Thank you for clarifying.
I miss Nathan. He needs to do some off road reviews please 🙏.
The ground clearance kills it. Any time I've ever had a problem in snow, it's because the snow was relatively deep and the car would get hung up. My friend's Chevy Blazer had crappy 2WD but the ground clearance meant it never got stuck.
That said, this ghetto AWD system would probably work 99% of the time. Won't get stuck in the ruts at a McDonalds drivethrough (yes this happen to me once in a Corolla).
It's a shame no more 3.5L V6 :( Love my 2015 XLE Premium and my 2010 RAV4 V6 AWD Limited!
Dude you look great bc you re doing donuts in a mini van, with a bear watching over your shoulder!
They already have the “woodland edition” out yes?? Supposedly has more ground clearance
It’s only 1cm higher.
From the Toyota website. Reg vs woodland in inches; 6.37 …. 6.96. Pretty useless.
The Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid has been recalled for a fire risk for the third time since 2019
Should have done it in the woodland edition it has better ground clearance.
Yep. I mention it at 11:05
I am about to order one, but your comment on the factory hitch and ground clearance has me wondering. Is it better to opt for an after market hitch? Will that provide more ground clearance?
..Good question. The Car Care Nut UA-cam channel is a master Toyota mechanic, but he recommends buying an aftermarket tow bar, but a genuine Toyota wire harness. He has a UA-cam video on this.
Is that salt on that van? Thought they didn’t use salt up there. Don’t see a lot of rust coming out of Colorado.
Sienna has the cable corrosion defect that Rav4 has. Plz contact me.
I bought a 2017 AWD Sienna last year. It gets decent mileage with the V6. The styling is pretty classic. I am really enjoying the versatility of this van. I have been using my Sienna to move my kids to college cross country. The fact that the captains chairs are not removable in the new models is a big disappointment.
I’m a dad not embarrassed about being seen in a van, but the ground clearance in the Sienna just wasn’t high enough for our beach trips to confidently get through loose, deep sand and ruts.
They actually are removeable. You just need a tool to take them out. That said, if you're going cross country, you be better off removing the back seats for extra storage. That way, the kids will get to sit in the more comfy captains chairs .
We had the same one..very nice..but our new one is much better
That's b/c the seats have built-in airbag for extra safety.
omg. i have an awd van, not hybrid, im getting anxiety just watching this spinning around!
It still continues to shock me that car companies will lend car reviewers in the dead of winter and in particular high elevation reviewers like you guys an AWD car with 3 season tires on it. Do they like seeing their cars do poorly in the snow, do they like their cars to be shown to be unsafe? I don't get it.
Id wager that 90% of the vehicles on the road in snowy winter states only have all season tires. I guess it’s more of a luxury than a necessity to most people. Despite my disagreement.
Honestly, they test them with all-season tires because 99% of the people will only ever put all-season tires on their vehicle. Tires make a huge difference in handling/StabilityTraction and even mpg yet are the most neglected item on a vehicle.
We usually test them as they were produced. Very few vehicles come from the factory with snow tires
Siennas are unsafe on salted roads because of hybrid AWD cable corrosion. Contact me about the safety recall.
But there's no spare tire and 2nd row can't be removed?
…At one point you could order a spare donut with rim for $75. It can be stored in a hole I. the back behind the 3rd row seat. There are UA-cam videos on how to remove 2nd row seats but it is not recommended. Takes a ratchet set, unplugging the battery and a guy above said you need a 2.5 ohm resistor
Please compare odessey vs Sienna in snow
Sienna has hybrid cable corrosion defect on salted roads. Plz contact me.
Seeing Nathan without the boot on is like seeing Tommy without his glasses. It just ain't right.
People want to know if it can climb the steep snow-covered driveway to the mountain house, not if it can do donuts. Where's the roller test? Snowy diagonal test? We need it to carry 6 to the slopes without chains. We don't need it to do donuts, lol.
I sold mine because its so awful in snow, when cruising it goes into fwd to when you give it a little gas in an icy corner it starts plowing straight like no car ive ever owned it also would only give me 26 mpg in the winter with careful driving
What did you replace it with? Do you feel you made the right decision? Thanks
Front wheel drive would probably be plenty good with the heavy weight of that vehicle
….What do other people think??
I agree. I had a 2015 VW Jetta Sportswagon TDI (Diesel engine). That car was HEAVY and it’s weight was always enough to remain so stable in snow. I’d cruise by all the stranded SUVs in ditches during each scow storm and I’d just cruise by. The tires were below average OEM tires-nothing special. Diesel engines are so heavy and that was enuff to do the trick. I still miss my beautiful wagon…the power of the diesel engine was phenomenal. I even passed a Maserati once. MPG was 58-59. Better than a hybrid!
Impressive catch on door sensor, i wonder toyota engineer didnt thought about it. Toyota engineer failed on sensor on side door for winter and trunk sensor if hitch is installed. Kia raised the bar for carnival over sienna in the engineering side.
Kia vs Toyota with respect to engine. No comparison.
My old first-gen (2005) Highlander would blow through a foot a snow with ease - much better than any RAV4 or CRV that I've owned. I'm not sure what kind of 4WD system it had, or if it was all in my head (or tires!) but if this Sienna's electric motor system compares to that old Highlander, then it's a true Snow Machine!
That said, the new Sienna's front end IS ugly, and not only is the fact the 2nd row seats don't come out, the whole load floor is full of bumps and latches and stuff that would tear up the bottom of any heavy object slid into the van. It also would make for uncomfortable sleeping in the back, should one want to use the van for camping/travel trips.
This is a lot better than a gas guzzling low traction Odyssey.
The odyssey would pass this thing going uphill fully loaded with people. That’s the trade off between no this power greenie weenie mobile and a vehicle that will get it done effortlessly, like the odyssey.
@@Matthew-ip6xl Actually the Sienna would dust the Odyssey in the mountains. Electric motors aren’t affected by thin air, not to mention the Odyssey couldn’t put the power down with the front wheels unloaded.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q you do realize that the majority of the siennas power is from the combustion engine correct? Those two tiny electric motors don’t make it a Tesla. The difference is astonishing- not that you’ve ever driven both in that situation, otherwise you wouldn’t be saying such nonsense.
@@Matthew-ip6xl Yes, but it will make up the difference in power at high altitudes. The difference between a high compression I4 and a mild compression V6 is barely anything. With the electric motor torque it will easily out muscle the V6. In addition the Sienna will have better traction. I was underwhelmed with the ancient Honda V6. It makes a lot of noise, uses a lot of gas, and is just barely faster at sea level.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q you clearly haven’t driven them if you’re complaining about noise in the odyssey lol. The sienna has the serious noise and droning issues. You can talk elevation all day long but at the end of the day it still doesn’t equalize the sienna only have 174 ft lbs of torque and the odyssey having 262. Even a mile above sea level isn’t enough to level the playing field with a spread that large. The sienna is dog shit in comparison.
wondering why would you need an "athletic" car on a car designed for family travel in mind, shouldn't it be more efficient on mileage and safe awd that we need to look for? not to mention toyota is very reliable
Because some people still don’t want a vehicle that’s a bore to dive, no matter the use of it. All of the above can be important, but aren’t necessarily equal to everyone. We’re still allowed to have individual preferences last I checked…