The 2022 Genesis G80 Sport Takes On BMW And Mercedes
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- This is the sedan Lexus could have built and should have built, but it turns out the only Asian luxury car company willing to take the fight to Germany is Genesis. If you're looking for a luxury sedan with poise, refinement, comfort, high predicted reliability and a lower MSRP, the G80 should be on your list. If you want a better dealer experience and more customization, you'll find that somewhere else but be prepared to pay extra for it...
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Genesis G80 is very much understating their mileage I have had this vehicle for nearly 5 months now and over 9k miles My highway driving it get 29-31 MPG combined normally around 23 MPG so all in all not bad for a car that has 4400lbs and 375 HP It drives alot better that the e-class and is way more comfortable than the BMW
Much better than the charger rt. Same power level, a lil lighter, v8 power, same mpg rating on paper
I’m absolutely enamored with Genesis and how they’ve evolved over the past couple of years. Having gone from Lexus to Infiniti, I’ve wanted something else without going to European brands because of their historical reliability. As such, I wanted to stay with an Asian brand, and believe Genesis entered the market at the right time. They truly remind me of Lexus & Acura during their “genesis”, yet with something completely different in terms of their aesthetics. I’m excited about leasing for the first time and doing so with a G80 Sport. My fiancée is also excited about purchasing a GV70 Sport. I truly don’t believe Genesis can be beat for their incredible value. - Dope, detailed review as always, Alex! 🔥
Have fun trying to get MSRP prices
Yup, the GV70 will replace my Audi Q3.
Awesome comment mate I agree with all you said! Genesis for the win!!
Great review Alex. As someone who's 6'6" and with decades of chronic spine issiues I'm so happy Genesis went on the comfort side of ride. It does my head in how stiffly sprung cars are today even hatchbacks that are supposed to be daily drivers rattle your teeth loose. Most cars spend 99 percent of their lives on our shit pot hole riddled roads so having a comfortable riding car is for me fantastic.
When I hear this "If your front seat passenger is looking for the same comforts as the driver...." it reminds that front seat passenger is known as "the wife" in most cases :). And yeah, my wife had been complaining about her seat isn't as comfy as mine (I drive 99% of the time when we are going places together) forever in every car we bought so far. Thanks Alex for another great review video.
As always, a top shelf objective and clear test summary. Take Alex to the bank.
Perhaps I haven’t paid enough attention lately, but this is the first time I’ve seen the “Final Scores” graphic. I really like this!
I know I know is the sport trim but wood instead of carbon fiber looks so much better on this car.
Seriously only car review you need!!
So intuitive and so well thought out.
I love everything about it!!
Thank you Alex!!
@@oi32df he is good to especially how he exposed crappy Lexus are using parts from past decades. But I love how Alex is concise & precise. Also the cars I test drove, lots of times Alex take the words right out of my mouth as if he read my mind.
No folding rear seats = no sale
@@oi32df Savagegeese have very different priorities. Despite the 'Sport' in the name this is still a fairly soft luxury car. Nothing wrong with that.
Awesome review...Genesis is awesome...Btw, the video skipped the Cabin Noise- although I suspected the A.
To answer your question: I got the 2023 G80 awd 2.5t Sport Prestige. Sticker was $64,650 US and got it $58,650 with two Genesis rebates last Christmas. 30+ mpg on the interstate and I can still pass anything in my way with ease. Traded in my 2022 GV70 3.5t with 31k flawless miles on it and loved that motor when I needed it, problem is you just don’t need that often. It’s a work car that puts on 3k miles a month so the interstate mileage matters to me, but still not as much as comfort. Sometimes I lull myself into thinking this is gramp’s luxury sedan and then I put the 245 and meaty 275 staggered to work and remember it has Sport in its name for a reason.
Good review btw…I like it when you don’t quite talk as fast as you did when you started because your reviews are oh so good with details 👍🏻
TWO absolutely HUGE ISSUES going against this car: First, no folding rear seats is HUGE oversight. If I'm going to have one vehicle in my family, it HAS to have a folding rear seat. Midsize German luxury cars have been doing this for DECADES! So there's no excuse. Also, the mpg numbers are laughably terrible. 16 mpg city and 20 combined? Are you kidding me? The 540i xdrive gets 23 and 26 respectively. EVEN THE TWIN TURBO m550i xdrive gets better mpg at 17 and 20 combined -- with 523hp! I'm an old school Hyundai fan, but I'm not sure what they are thinking here.
I like folding seats too but in Korea and China, the back seat is reserved for important people, not lumber from Lowe's. LOL. Unfortunately, Asian sedans are no longer designed with Americans and Europeans in mind.
@@sprague49 Exactly. We're a very minor market for Genesis. I do think they should have made the seat fold, as it's an easy feature to include, but in. Asia this is often chauffeur-driven. That's why the passenger seat controls for the rear-seat passenger, a feature it shares with the G90.
Great pricing and comparison section! Love the new format.
I wish they offered the 3.5 tt as a rwd option. Better fuel economy, lighter, and longer tire life/rotation
Genesis has got a huge improvement. Hope they can redesign the transmission shift controller or the info controller, they look similar.
Could you include the MSRP in the description as well? Price is always something people will be interested in looking at
It’s incorporated into the Competitive Pricing graphic at the 21:00 mark.
My Cousin in Charlotte NC is on her 3rd Genesis G80. She Leases tho. And she said the Dealer Experience is AWEFUL but she still loves them.
Just an ol FYI...I saw a review on a early model 2009 Lexus LS 460 and it had those seat controls that you can move the seat from the rear from the side.
I like this a lot. It’s a shame they removed the rear wheel drive option from the 3.5T trim. I prefer a choice between rear drive and AWD.
You might prefer it, but 90% of people buying this car don’t.
Honestly, the prior gen G80 was a much better value. And I believe they came mostly in RWD form, whether the 3.3T or the 5.0. Also, the looks of the prior one, while more conservative, was more coherent. This new one is sharper and louder, but not necessarily prettier. I also dislike that they've employed the corporate language in making all their models resemble one another. Loved how the prior G70, G80, and G90 looked different from each other. Still, they're leaps and bounds above the Japanese brands. It'd be interesting to see if Kia decides to create a luxury offspring of its own.
@@philhenderson3516 I agree the last Gen was obviously better value, but the new gen competes directly with the European competition. The price is still far from unfair or uncompetitive.
Right? Changing tires more frequently, more weight, poorer fuel economy, slightly slower than a rwd variant, etc
I recently rented a 3.5 for my trip from Nashville to New Orleans. This machine is awesome! I believe it has closer 400hp instead of 375hp. The car accelerates using smooth, effortless power. The ride and handling are in par with the Germans and Japanese. It garners attention and shout from people as I pass by. I have a rear drive 3.5. And the ride is smooth and well damped on the moon crater like streets of New Orleans. There is no perfect car. My only issues with this one are; the trunk is small for such a large car, the engine start stop mechanism feels as if someone has hit the car in the rear when it engages from a stop, it takes premium fuel and the rear seat doesn't fold. However, given the car's capabilities, I can live with those issues. I plan to sample the GV80 for comparison. It being an SUV with the same engine and more cargo room is what I really need. I just hope that it performs as well as the sedan when I push on the accelerator pedal. Oh, and the brakes are awesome!
Love your new diagram when comparing with others product. Good job
Man those Koreans are killing it. RIP to all Japanese brands. The Koreans are the real deal
Agreed. RIP Lexus and Infiniti
Although Acuras fine since only they can give stiff competition to genesis
"This is a lot of fun but it is going to cost you more to fill up long term... if you're willing to pay the fuel bill the G80 rewards with excellent handling and a well polished ride..." I love your reviews, Alex, but do people spending $50-$70K on a Genesis really care about fuel economy?
Yes. Just because you bought a $50,000 or $70,000 car, doesn’t mean you are loaded, especially these days. You’re not poor obviously but you don’t have so much money that you just don’t care about pricing of anything.
This is not a high end segment. It's really mid level these days. This is also a very commuter car oriented purchase vs something you will garage and take only on weekends. So, yes, it does matter, quite a bit.
Sticking with my 2018 G80 3.3T for now. Great review.
Great review and great car! I loved the new section at the end with scores.
G80 Electric
All the goodies plus efficiency AND 516 lb-ft instant torque
But with the loss of an inch of rear seat headroom, three inches of rear seat legroom, and three cubic feet of trunk space, as Alex mentioned. I’m a big EV proponent, but it seems like Genesis kind of phoned in the EV integration here as many of the most modern EVs are finding ways to better tuck away the batteries, inverters, etc. and actually increase cabin/trunk space over the equivalent ICE model.
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Genesis
What Lexus did in the 1990's, Genesis is doing today
Genesis is what Lexus needed to evolve into. They are The Next Lexus!😎
They are. Meanwhile the real Lexus is dead at this point
They aren’t relevant and don’t deserve to exist. They keep putting out brand new mediocre products that quickly get thrown in the garbage by its rivals before they hit dealerships.
Cases in point: NX LX RX RZ LS possibly the TX.
RIP 🪦 the real Lexus just like RIP 🪦 infiniti
@@naveenthemachine lol cry louder dramatic boy
@@GuiltyNoticer give it time. It’ll happen. Lexus isn’t putting out award receiving products. They are putting out laughable luxury products that are just rebadged Toyota Camrys in some form. The LX though is beyond reprehensible
@@naveenthemachine I think that's an overstatement, but I do.think their current products are very ho-hum. However, they are also extremely reliable and inexpensive to own, and for their mostly older buyers that is often the main priority.
@@markmiller3279 if you want reliability you may as well save the cash and just buy a Toyota in its top end trim.
As always I love your details that can be hard to find.
Outstanding graphics. Well worth your time. 👍🏼
Great job, Alex! I like the new format at the end of your review!
ALEX, GREAT JOB ON THE YARD 👏👏👏❤️ LOOKS GREAT ....
I like the pricing of this model, but this makes me wonder why is the new GV90 so expensive?
It doesn't start where this leaves off, around $70k. The new G90 jumps all the way to $88k to start?
This is an excellent value. They went the other way with the G90. The G90 has less power than the Lexus LS, but costs $10-15k more. Tough sell for a brand most have never heard of.
The G90 is considerably nicer than the Lexus LS, it's a much larger & nicer luxury sedan than the G80, and competes with the S-Class (which costs far more).
@@CrazyWeeMonkey If only it were that simple, kid
I’m willing to give up all the luxury dealer experience to get a superior quality car.
Lexus has the best quality luxury vehicle ownership experience but genesis has better quality luxury vehicles period
@@InvestBetter.
But it is. It costs more for the same reason the G80 costs more than a G70, or an Audi A8 costs more than an Audi A6.
The G90 is incredibly plush and well equipped, far more so than the LS, which actually feels quite a bit more like the G80 in size and amenities. It may be Lexuses flagship, but the current LS isn't really a competitor for the big German sedans - or even the G90.
I heard that Mr. North Korea himself got one of those GV80. Gotta be good.
Hahaha this can't be real
After going through 3 optimas with engines catching fire, I wouldn't touch a Korean product.
I may lease it though.
Damn that's crazy. Which model year Optimas did you have though?
@@NileshR12optima 2011 2014 and 2016 lol
Those model year optimas had engine issues
But the new ones are fine
@@naveenthemachine lmao 6 years of optimas all catching fire
Never again.
Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I really enjoyed the video
The Lexus ES has a combined legroom of 81.6 while your figure for the G80 shows 81.2. Where are you getting that the G80 has more legroom than an ES?
Also your own video says 81.6.
A quick google-search tells me they have about the same combined legroom. I assume the wheelbase has to do with it. The ES has a 113" wheelbase while the G80 has an 118.5" wheelbase.
Wireless Apple CarPlay, and android auto is extremely convenient paired with a Qi wireless charger
Don't know if anyone mentioned it here but the G80 take regular where the others is premium
Recommended 91 octane right on the gas door…put in what you want.
@@vanceforrest4085 Ahh...mine is the 2019. Newer one must be 91 now.
Alex's song choices are my favorite Easter eggs in his videos
A low end 4cyl G80 prices out like a high end Arteon. I think The hatchback form wins it.
I really like the Arteon's styling and the hatchback, but it's a lot smaller than the G80, and nowhere near as luxurious. It's more like the Kia Stinger.
Genesis is THE car
I’d choose the G80 Electrified over the 3.5T. This would be at the top of my list for sure
I prefer to plug in also.....for apple car play.....who I get phone calls from is a private matter and not for passengers in the vehicle. I know you can turn it off in wireless by going into the menu, but it look weird when you have a guest in the car. Yes, folding back seat would be good in some circumstances. Nice to hear it is less expensive.
Cabin noise reading??
Grille seems a bit too big, and I prefer wood in interior. Does Lexus have wood in interior in ES350?
Only on higher trim levels
4500 lb! It seems Korean and Japanese car makers keep struggling with weight reduce for their luxury models.
Have a good day everyone...Happy Tuesday..
Back seats that dont fold is a deal breaker for me
I never liked that nighttime skyline image on the main screen. When viewed with peripheral vision it always looks like the screen is dirty filthy especially on the right side. Can you turn that off on Genesis models?
It's a compelling package for sure, but I'm surprised that more people don't find the exterior design a bit...polarizing. As much as I try to like it, something about this car's looks just don't do it for me. Both the G70 and G90 look more aesthetically pleasing to me.
G70 the best looking.
The Dark Horse terrifying this entire Industry remains in my opinion as a former Limo Driver Cadillac.
Cadillac still remains King of the Limo market.
Lincoln still big in the Hearse Market unsurprisingly.
Still I have hope for the Industry that someone and I mean *ANYONE* will post up against Cadillac in the very lucrative Limousine Market in North America.
Alex, With the GS gone, lets' see how the new 340 hp, top spec Toyota Crown Hybrid competes🤔
It doesn’t. The crown lost badly and I mean VERY badly. Fwd and anemic for the class and also ugly looking too
@@naveenthemachine 340hp isn’t anemic
@@garrettw99 0-60 in 5.7 seconds for the expected price tag isn’t great. The more you spend the more performance you kind of expect.
I’m okay with 0-60 in 5.7 seconds in a Toyota but at 50K is a hard sell. If it’s 40K or less it’s a great deal
@@naveenthemachine that’s only .5 second slower than a $57k BMW 530e. Idk what else to compare the Crown PHEV to. Volvo S60 Recharge is smaller but way faster. S90 is $70k and 4.6 seconds.
@@garrettw99 well the crown is based off the Camry so I wouldn’t compare them since the driving dynamics compared to the bmw or even the Volvo will be very different. The bmw is RWD but the Volvo has a double wishbone front suspension and the eAWD system in the phev is still more powerful than even the max hybrid (Toyotas direct4 AWD)
Those gas estimate is bad for today standards, like no mild hybrid idea came across??
I drove the G80 Sport a few days ago. I liked it but isn’t a really a sport ride. While you can get the sport and sport plus to change to suspension, it doesn’t have the feel of the European or even Lexus F sport. The power is really good though. I wish it did have a true Shifter instead that Rotary dial that is gimmicky. Also as you mention the trunk is small and gas mileage isn’t the greatest.
It’s an amazing car but I miss some of the design from the previous generation
Why can't they make that front censor less conspicuous?
This man must really hate Audi. 🤣 I love your reviews Alex, but your refusal to mention Audi is a bit frustrating.
But well done for including the A6 on the Competitive Pricing slide. 😃
I think it's because Audi is always second string. They have great tech and dynamics, but Mercedes has the showiest interiors, and BMW is the most sporty. So Audi just gets lumped in as "the Germans". They also act like an underdog in the US: like Genesis, they try and underprice the competition and rely on trim levels instead of individual packages/options. Mercedes and BMW act more like dominant.
Well, if it's any consolation, Peter Schreyer, formerly of Audi, has been 1 of 3 presidents of the Hyundai Automotive group for the last 10 years, designer for the past 16 years.
Removing RWD only is a no go for me. Such a shame... Packaging is not right, worse than 2021.
You wouldn't rather have AWD?
@@greg.anywhere no, I live in Texas, I don't need extra weight on front axle and worse mpg.
No reclining rear seat?? Even the K900 has a reclining rear seat. Come on Genesis !!
No view of the rear? Wanted to see how it looked more from the back
The Genesis 3.5 will need about 4.6 seconds to go to 60 mph. That will get you out of any unsafe situation. And I am speaking from experience. But if money is no object, go ahead and spend over 100k and go to 60 in
Koreans are making the finest auto right up there with European makers. All the Jap stuff is in the toilet they all make the ugliest vehicles on the road today along with those crappy rubberband trannys.
The issue with the entire Genesis brand is that despite being competitive in the segments they compete in, they can't shake off the previous reputation of their parent company for making unreliable and unsafe cars. The recent recalls for engine fires makes the situation worse too. This is where Lexus and Acura have an advantage over them. That aside, apart from the M and AMG performance models, and the Blackwing performance models of Cadillac (don't know why Genesis won't offer their own performance line), this beats every entry in its segment. Would also love to see a full size SUV from them that should knock the Escalade and Range Rover out of their top spots.
Don’t forget Lexus has recalls too. Take the nx. They are recalling it for parking brake issues
Most people know nothing about those recalls. Hyundai/Kia sell in large numbers and don't have the same reputation they once did.
@@markmiller3279 Yeah agreed. Overall most people enjoy their Hyundai Group vehicles.....otherwise how would they be outselling most manufacturers still.
That said...it's more about the stigma about social prestige.
That's really it.
what are the length and width compared to competitors.
Genesis gets newer Nvidia chips than Hyundai, Kia.
One day, all cars will have rear wheel steering.
Alex snuck a new conclusion to his reviews on us.
Great vid! Fuel consumption is not that great..
The electric back seats are a no go and the drivers position is too high.
Saying 'smartphone' these days is like saying 'colour TV'.
I'll take a Acura or Lexus over any Hyundai product.
I’d take genesis over Lexus (except the LC GX or is500). Heck I’d save and get a mainstream Toyota over Lexus
I think they're not very comparable. Acura is aiming for the premium market; even their website says "premium" instead of "luxury". They are okay with baking compromises into their cars, like the poor packaging of the TLX, because they seem to have a smaller R&D budget. Lexus sells on cushy comfort and reliability and is fine with shamelessly recycling from Toyota because their customers don't care about differentiation. Genesis seems to be directly targeting Mercedes (and the other Germans) with luxurious interiors, good technology, and careful tuning. Of course they'll still compete for buyers that are more ambivalent about these features, but I think Genesis has found a good niche by offering "Mercedes on a budget".
@@naveenthemachine Off course you would except. Go on and buy one put 200,00 miles on it then talk to me.
@@ryanjoseph8694 don't wast your time on that dude. He a lexus hater 🤣
@@naveenthemachine even if genesis build a car that can fly, I still not going to buy it . Just not my style
Alex…as a music composer …it’s time for new music for your introduction. The music you are using for your brand/channel sounds extremely outdated. Add some exciting dance music…it makes it more exciting before your video presentations
I know there a Genesis G80 special edition coming out
23 model ? i have seen custom painted ones sides are one color top ,hood trunk different ,,,looks great ,,makes it look way more expensive
My guy said GV80 4:05
If it’s going to get v8 fuel economy it should have a v8
still prefer a used 2020 GS F V8 5.0L
I think you mean GS F.
@@naveenthemachine yes
Genesis is asian I thought? Part of Hyundai
It is Korean. Part of HMG, the world's third largest automaker.
Nice
Lexus is making pretty bad but expensive cars now, not even fair to compare Korean cars with Toyota’s modern junk…
I own a Toyota and I’d probably say my next car down the future will be Korean
RIP Lexus
Alex, lets get real here. An AMG 53 creams this car in all performance categories. The interior is also light years better looking and better designed. The fuel economy is quite frankly horrendous again the AMG gets over 30 mph highway. Leave this car in its true category, "entry luxury".
I agree. I'm not a hardcore German brand vehicles I do like BMW. I don't think Genesis brand can beat the Germans other than value and reliability somewhat. Everyone likes cheaper and less repair and maintenance. For me German European brands own this market. If the Genesis brand were unreliable people would go away from them more than people would an unreliable BMW or Mercedes Benz and Audi.
Go sit in one. The interior is just as nice as the Mercedes. I think it actually feels nicer. Definitely beats the BMW 750 iL I used to own. Better than my Lexus GS I used to own. It’s not “entry level” just because it’s thousands less and doesn’t have a German name associated with it.
Don't blaspheme
Nice car overall but it doesn’t look as nice as the GS or Q70. Def doesn’t look as good as the Germans.
I would rather buy a used GSF and keep it for a long time.
I think it's hilarious to say this doesn't look as nice as the Q70. This one Genesis nicer than anything Infiniti makes.
The g80 beats the laughing stock Lexus GS. The g80 is what killed the GS and I say good for genesis
I hope genesis kills more Lexus products and eventually the brand considering that Lexus can’t compete in the space anymore. They had a good 30 year run but as they say all things must come to an end
RIP Lexus.
You have joined infiniti and gone to the grave. You’ll be out of business very soon. And your awful luxury vehicles really prove it
Seriously why does Alex even bother wasting time driving the real Lexus when genesis has ended them? Also why does Lexus still exist?
I can 💯 guarantee Alex that Lexus will eventually go out of business since they can’t compete anymore. They consistently lose ground before they even go on sale. Don’t believe me just because you all think I’m the internet’s biggest Toyota hater?
Cases in point: NX LX RX RZ BZ4X
This video and Alex commenting on what we wish Lexus would do shows that my harsh words on Lexus are 100% valid
You're very good at using circular logic to substantiate claims without any evidence.
@@notsodelusional those claims are backed up by facts and observations and articles
The LX I mean come on it’s a flagship suv yet it’s already a dead last place suv and it just barely went on sale. But it’s brand new and the freshest of the bunch so shouldn’t it be best in class? …
The RZ. Cmon it’s a tarted up bz4x with the same range but no performance or luxury or dynamism or fast charging to back it up
The RX is ugly at the front and the interior is not even luxurious. It looks like a Toyota and it has laughable powertrains. Plus their “performance” RX does 0-60 in 5.8 seconds. My Toyota Camry has the same performance but out of a v6 (what Lexus should have carried over), and half the price
The NX. Brand new the freshest but again last place suv. It cannot compete with the best in the segment.
In fact none of these Lexus products mentioned can even compete. Where’s the GS? Oh yeah, dead. Where’s the ES or RX? Oh right those are tarted up Camrys
@@naveenthemachine Your claims about Lexus being in the grave simply wrong, especially if you look at comparative sales figures. There's not much else to say. Maybe you are speaking in an exaggerated manner just to make your point, but the ES, for example, outsells many non-luxury mid-size sedans.
Have you driven an RX? An ES? I have, and they are far superior to the Camry. Now are the Lexus brands worth the premium? That's a different question.
Listen, I can't stand the RAV4. There are better small SUVs out there, or at least competitive offerings. The fact remains, however, that the RAV4 is the RAV$$$. One could say the same about the Camry. What does it do well? Not much, but it's very reliable and does enough things at a passable rate.
How can lexus go out of business when they selling more cars, I don't understand. Genesis not selling more cars then lexus. Please explain that. Cars go out of business if they are not selling, but lexus still sell more cars then Genesis.
@@matthewalexis he don't know what he talking about
The electric one is a joke a cramped interior
because Lexus is milking the RX
And we can see that the new RX is a joke. Suckers see it’s paying off but for us smart luxury buyers it’s clearly not
that's there problem,,,there cars don't change ,,,on my 4th es looked at a new one not much different then my first one ,,,even same wheels for last 10 years
That front grille has the subtlety of a rapper. Ewww.
First
When is the fire hazard recall on this model coming? Kia's and Hyundai's are rolling fire pits. The national recalls don't lie, don't buy!
Considering the engine is different, who knows. I forgot that no other cars on this planet except Hyundai have ever had a high risk recall before. Oh wait.
Lmao No one cares as in no one gives a crap about Hyundai Genesis. Even if the car can fly, it’s still a Hyundai. 🤢
Or you could look at it in a more positive way - a Hyundai is like a cheap Genesis, a Toyota a cheap Lexus, a VW a cheap Audi(*), etc. If Mercedes introduced a budget brand now - "Dogsballs" - would you then declare that Mercedes were just expensive Dogsballs? Your attitude is silly IMHO.
(*) Sorry for mentioning that word again Alex. 🤣🤣
The car is quite good for the price. GV70 looks and drives like a 100k merc suv for a little over half the price
@@gregsullivan7408 Don't bother. Jasper couldn't even afford Hyundai or Genesis with his supermarket paycheck. LMAO
Jasper sounds like you're jealous of Hyundai and Genesis, huh kid. LMAO
BMW is Mini, Audi is VW, and Mercedes is Smart. Who cares if they are related to Hyundai? Hyundai puts out some of the most desirable mainstream cars right now.
I got a G80 Sport Plus as a loaner while my G90 was in for servicing... I wasn't a fan... suspension was rough, seats were hard, didn't like the gear selector and the rear steer was actually making me car sick. True it was the sportiest sport model, maybe the regular model would be more comfy. I came from a 2015 Genesis 5.0 and only recently upgraded to the G90 because it was the last of the NA V8 luxury sedans.
Prior G80 Sport or this new 2022 version? Just asking because the prior one with the 3.3T was smooth as silk, even smoother than the 5.0's due to the adaptive suspension which the 5.0's didn't have (except for the 2015 5.0 which was the only model year to feature the adaptive suspension).