The BEST VALUE Warhammer army!

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    What is the best value Warhammer army? 40k, Age of Sigmar, Kill Team, Warcry, they all require armies, which take time. Painting and looking at models, I'll try and help you make the right decisions, based upon what you value the most.
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  • @BroadswordWargaming
    @BroadswordWargaming  11 місяців тому +11

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  • @willpenn966
    @willpenn966 11 місяців тому +39

    For me, the best value I've ever gotten from a single purchase was the Carnevale starter box. 80 USD for two skirmish size crews, a rulebook, a box of terrain, a plastic gondola, terrain tiles, dice and tokens. It was amazing.

  • @alexc2626
    @alexc2626 11 місяців тому +13

    Love to see the Dakota Irish shout!
    And feels great to have that in store banter about Chaos Daemon Supremacy validated in the video 😆

    • @BroadswordWargaming
      @BroadswordWargaming  11 місяців тому +2

      Haha, what have I done. What have I become. FOR DORN.

  • @johnbruce4004
    @johnbruce4004 11 місяців тому +3

    Good choice of 'value', time. One thing always in short supply, ironically more so if you have a hobby business. Excellent video Olly.

  • @MentoliptusBanko
    @MentoliptusBanko 10 місяців тому +1

    Hahahahaha, I didn't expect that...but that was my logic when I start playing Warhammer. CHAOS DEMONS FTW! It also helps that I really like the models.
    I always joke with my friends when a new WH game comes out that I already have a Demon army ready to play it.

  • @WeirdWolfGames
    @WeirdWolfGames 11 місяців тому +4

    I found Grey Knights a super cost effective way of building up a good force, and so easy to paint up! A lot of terminator = a lot of points.

    • @BroadswordWargaming
      @BroadswordWargaming  11 місяців тому

      Yeah, absolutely. Grey knights and custodes are high point/low model count armies. :)

    • @thequestbro
      @thequestbro 9 місяців тому

      Grey Knight? Easy to paint? Are you high?

  • @ThePlayplay64
    @ThePlayplay64 8 місяців тому +1

    I wish they would bring back the boarding patrol boxs. They looked fun had nice value and sold out...

    • @BroadswordWargaming
      @BroadswordWargaming  8 місяців тому

      They were really good. I think we have a few in our store, but the majority went so quickly!

  • @blaked7532
    @blaked7532 11 місяців тому +2

    I'm a fan of the imperial guard mechanized armour group. Gotta love a bunch of tanks rollin' across the battlefield.

  • @RonyTheRhombus.
    @RonyTheRhombus. 11 місяців тому

    Love a good value for money video! Also great to see Dakota Irish! Love them and their dice

    • @BroadswordWargaming
      @BroadswordWargaming  11 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, they're so good. Love the swirly inside bits. 😀

  • @kitoushi66
    @kitoushi66 11 місяців тому +2

    Love the video. Both of your content is great but I wanted to comment on Dakota Irish. Love that you found a local sponsor with cool products and great values. I love to see it. I will buy from them soon.

    • @BroadswordWargaming
      @BroadswordWargaming  11 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, they do really good stuff! Make sure to check them out :) And thank you :)

  • @snoopyxcore
    @snoopyxcore 11 місяців тому

    Basing Chaos is a breeze, too! mud for texture, dry brush a bright contrasting color, then use a counter contrast paint.
    for this red demon, bright white dry brush, then either hexwraith or imperial fist yellow. makes the minis pop

  • @kenhitchcock4075
    @kenhitchcock4075 11 місяців тому

    Amazing job and well explained.

  • @danielwielki3490
    @danielwielki3490 11 місяців тому

    pudelko do grania i na kostki super sie prezentuje , dzieki za filmik😉

  • @RootsBassCanada
    @RootsBassCanada 11 місяців тому +5

    I'm a Necrons guy but now I'm attracted to Chaos Daemons. Thanks for the inspiration. 😊

  • @PaintsOnA4Up
    @PaintsOnA4Up 11 місяців тому

    This was a very nice video and well described way of it. As a veteran I get exactly what you’re meaning by like all of this 😅 I’ll send my friends this way if they ever ask :)

  • @SPQRKlio
    @SPQRKlio 11 місяців тому +2

    Tinny Tin + Verdigris, plus adding in some highlights with a bright brass, is my favourite combination of paints at the moment. I’ll use it at any excuse.

    • @BroadswordWargaming
      @BroadswordWargaming  11 місяців тому +1

      Absolutely! That's exactly what I did here! It's so good. I tell everyone to do it haha.

  • @wardaddyminiatures
    @wardaddyminiatures 11 місяців тому +9

    Khorne has always been my favourite chaos god! Nice work 👍

  • @beardhammerwargaming
    @beardhammerwargaming 11 місяців тому +1

    Really good video, thank you for this one!❤

  • @ngangkh
    @ngangkh 11 місяців тому +2

    Chaos knights were my jump back into 40k.
    I used to play Orks and that gave me an aversion to building n painting hordes.
    Knights meant I only needed 5 models to get to an easy 1000 points.
    I bought two boxes of Armigers on sale and modded an old Warmachine Colossal into my Knight.
    All in all it was an easy project.

    • @BroadswordWargaming
      @BroadswordWargaming  11 місяців тому

      Yeah, Knights are a great way to pick up an army. Low model count is brilliant!

    • @ngangkh
      @ngangkh 11 місяців тому

      @@BroadswordWargaming oh yeah they also double as a handy points filler if I wanna branch into Chaos in general

  • @S.W.A.G40k
    @S.W.A.G40k 11 місяців тому

    I collect Nurgle Daemons for the same reason. Have played 40k and AoS with them. Still waiting on HH rules. A tad more expensive than Khorne to get started though.

  • @joshuagarcia4523
    @joshuagarcia4523 11 місяців тому +1

    I've been thinking about this a lot too. My main game is (and probably always will be) MESBG. But sometimes I get tempted by the various worlds of Warhammer. By purchasing the Chaos Daemons Combat Patrol, you instantly have an official army for 40k, AoS, WHFB, Old World, Kill Team, Warcry, Grimdark Future, and Age of Fantasy, and the models could also be used in Horus Heresy, Blood Bowl, or Mordheim using unofficial fan rules. That's some pretty good value for money in terms of the ability to dip your toes into basically every 28mm Warhammer game and setting.
    The problem is...I don't LIKE daemons 😂

  • @user-ko3tv7jl2r
    @user-ko3tv7jl2r 11 місяців тому +1

    Daemons really are great fun to paint.

    • @BroadswordWargaming
      @BroadswordWargaming  11 місяців тому

      I think so too! I'm going to finish everything here by tomorrow, then add in some big stuf! Can't wait to actually be able to play games with a painted army. SO easy.

  • @PearlJam2k6
    @PearlJam2k6 11 місяців тому

    That verdigris product is very interesting, i always just used turquoise watered down about 75-25 paint to water and let it dry a bit before wiping it off from the raised surface.

    • @BroadswordWargaming
      @BroadswordWargaming  11 місяців тому

      I would highly recommend it, it's a wonderful product. They do a rust which is even better. 😀

  • @adamherring9803
    @adamherring9803 11 місяців тому +1

    This strikes a chord for me. Returned to the hobby last year by buying the Thousand Sons xmas box as I love how they look, but it seems my key resource is time just like you. 8 months later i have built everything and painted a grand total of almost 5 rubric marines!
    So this week I lost patience and just started getting paint on Magnus, which is lots of fun. I will keep going with the rubrics as I like them, but I need something less detailed too to keep it fun definitely! So based on this vid maybe some horrors to go alongside them...

    • @SixCylinderSamurai
      @SixCylinderSamurai 11 місяців тому +1

      Tsons power armour trim will literally grind you to dust.

  • @williams7713
    @williams7713 11 місяців тому +1

    I bought the recruit edition then sold the marines then i bought a necron box

  • @tennesseedogpack
    @tennesseedogpack 11 місяців тому

    Recommending area militarum is a cheeky thing

    • @BroadswordWargaming
      @BroadswordWargaming  11 місяців тому

      Why? If you want lots of models for your money, they're good value. That combat patrol (and genestealer cults) contains more models per pound than other sets. Therefore, value for money!
      The video is about what value means to people. Not everyone wants to spend their money on 12 models worth of painting.

  • @ObsidianCrane
    @ObsidianCrane 11 місяців тому +4

    While I agree for GW Systems Daemons are the best $$ value, they are not so flexible if you don't build into Khorne (or maybe Slaanesh if you can find the old Start Collecting). But, they're not to useful for Infinity, Legion or Shatterpoint ;)
    For a predominantly red scheme like Khorne an interesting variant on your approach is this:
    Prime Ultramarine (pick your brand), wash with a dark purple, zenithal with white, apply Express Colour - Cardinal Purple to the majority of the model, leaving things like the face and the tops of shoulders etc. Then apply Express Colour - Plasma Red over the bits you left, making sure you overlap a bit as well. It sounds more complicated, but you can potentially skip all the drybrushing, or just do the 1 layer of it. If you happen to have an airbrush, using it to apply the Cardinal Purple and Plasma Red makes it even faster.

    • @tennesseedogpack
      @tennesseedogpack 11 місяців тому

      Of course they won’t be good for legion or shatterpoint

    • @ObsidianCrane
      @ObsidianCrane 11 місяців тому

      @@tennesseedogpack so not good for "every system" and variants there of? :p

    • @BroadswordWargaming
      @BroadswordWargaming  11 місяців тому

      Probably being a tad pedantic. They're good for most systems, which is true. Obviously, not for specific IP games..

    • @ObsidianCrane
      @ObsidianCrane 11 місяців тому

      @@BroadswordWargaming sure, but I'm old and grumpy and consider non-GW stuff a lot.

  • @dragonwyrmdracodracul8361
    @dragonwyrmdracodracul8361 11 місяців тому

    If you want a GW army you can get a couple Warlord Games Landsknecht boxes and have an Empire army. Or get a couple boxes of Perry Miniatures instead/in addition, Perry can also be used for Bretonia.
    For WH40k? Get Some WW1 to Modern historic figures. Maybe even some tanks (You may need to look into 1/35 scale for the oversized figures).
    As long as You don't play in-store/competitions this seems the best.

  • @hobbybro3902
    @hobbybro3902 11 місяців тому

    Enjoy your videos, I don’t feel so bad about my pile of opportunity after seeing all your grey 🤣🤣🤣

    • @BroadswordWargaming
      @BroadswordWargaming  11 місяців тому

      Haha, well, that's good! Tip of the iceberg, my friend.. 😄

  • @roryhatfield6696
    @roryhatfield6696 11 місяців тому

    Excellent video and very informative

  • @A.L.E.X.42
    @A.L.E.X.42 11 місяців тому

    Have you successfully varnished over the dirty down verdigris? Or rust for that matter.

  • @EdySok17
    @EdySok17 11 місяців тому +2

    You forgot to say in the video that the best value you get when buying an army is when you buy said armies on a certain shop in west Ireland

  • @sggee
    @sggee 11 місяців тому +1

    Which dice were being rolled at the 4:41 second mark. Those are gorgeous dice.

    • @BroadswordWargaming
      @BroadswordWargaming  11 місяців тому

      Ooo, I'll have to double-check. They're beautiful right!? I've never owned dice with a moving inside bit!

    • @sggee
      @sggee 11 місяців тому

      I went on the dakota irish website thinking they might of been 1 of theirs but didnt see one that matched.
      If you find out please let me know - ill pick ‘em up :D

  • @Scoob609
    @Scoob609 11 місяців тому

    The answer is always daemons in my opinion because they're interchangeable for systems but then if you don't like daemons it's generic space marines because you can play near every space marine book or even chaos with them(they're renegades not chaos worshippers)
    But if you're me.. the best value is the thing that can be modelled for maximum hours. Eg, Orks and knights courtesy of kitbashing for orkz and magnetising, greenstuff and customising knights bases to death.
    I've seen people invest over 500 hours to 1500 points in knights.

  • @ancientgraybear
    @ancientgraybear 11 місяців тому +1

    Hey cool. New video. I love my Necrons.

  • @Ankhtowe
    @Ankhtowe 11 місяців тому +1

    Correct answer: whichever STLs you like the best.

  • @zaynevanday142
    @zaynevanday142 11 місяців тому +5

    My first 4 Armies I got for Free in 1996 wood Elves, High Elves, Empire & Bretonnians my friends partner at the time made him throw them out in the Barracks Skip bin so I liberated Them 🔥 🔥 🔥 😂😂😂

    • @zaynevanday142
      @zaynevanday142 11 місяців тому +1

      There was 4 dragons in amongst that lot 😂

    • @BroadswordWargaming
      @BroadswordWargaming  11 місяців тому

      That's awesome. I used to have a few of those back in the day too.. all gone now though! Noooo.

    • @zaynevanday142
      @zaynevanday142 11 місяців тому

      @@BroadswordWargaming half my collection in back home in New Zealand 🇳🇿 and half with me here in Australia 🇦🇺 you on Instagram I’ll send you some photos of it

    • @zaynevanday142
      @zaynevanday142 11 місяців тому

      @@BroadswordWargaming sent

  • @torbjjohn8786
    @torbjjohn8786 11 місяців тому

    Good video!🥳👍🏻

  • @zebr
    @zebr 11 місяців тому

    Considering how good Custodes are I'd say they are the clear answer

    • @BroadswordWargaming
      @BroadswordWargaming  11 місяців тому

      They're definitely a contender but can't be used in Age of Sigmar or Wacry. 😀 They're good for HH, though!

  • @ninjagumpi
    @ninjagumpi 11 місяців тому

    I feel like they didn’t do their research, I didn’t see a 3D printer.

    • @BroadswordWargaming
      @BroadswordWargaming  11 місяців тому

      That's not the point of the video, though. That's a different topic altogether.
      You'd still need to print AND paint 5+ armies to do the job of daemons. Sure. Print them if you like, but you still need to paint them..

  • @littlejimmy5020
    @littlejimmy5020 11 місяців тому

    Waiting for forgeworld to release start collecting Imperial titans

  • @Starbladesarcane
    @Starbladesarcane 11 місяців тому +1

    Maybe the true value is the friendships we make along the way in this hobby haha

    • @B__C__
      @B__C__ 11 місяців тому

      Or in this case all the daemons we made and painted along the way. 😉

  • @jmc7034
    @jmc7034 11 місяців тому +2

    Oooooooo fancy dice 😮😅. Great vid and I agree with the daemons. Excellent for both games

  • @Hokum_Paints
    @Hokum_Paints 11 місяців тому +4

    Arguably the best value, so I assume GW will change that at some stage :P

  • @larrysmith703
    @larrysmith703 11 місяців тому

    The best Warhammer 40k army when it comes to price is not to buy one to walk away from 40K all together. That's the best value

  • @romeo.3472
    @romeo.3472 10 місяців тому

    Hi Oliver, did I hear you doing the voice over on a Metal Gear Solid advert? Convinced it was you, if not someone has stolen your voice.

  • @MrTrilbe
    @MrTrilbe 11 місяців тому +1

    The issue with combat patrol and the box contents is that the rules are connected to the main rules and points, as min-maxers in comps abuse the systems that GW didn't bother really testing the game value of the boxes is going to change, either from the changes in rules or the points values of the contents of the boxes creating unbalance, GW should just bridge the Combat Patrol rules off fully from the main rules and balance them by combat patrol vs combat patrol games only to create their ~50% desired win rate for each army.

  • @KenLives333
    @KenLives333 11 місяців тому +1

    +1

  • @bopaintsminis
    @bopaintsminis 11 місяців тому +2

    I like Sisters, but I couldn't buy a starter box, because arco-flagellents and penitent engines are gross. 🤢🤮

    • @BroadswordWargaming
      @BroadswordWargaming  11 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, that's fair. They're pretty grim! Always hard to settle down on an army.

    • @bopaintsminis
      @bopaintsminis 11 місяців тому +1

      @@BroadswordWargaming Yeah, I think I would go with something like all of the sisters variants and rhinos.
      Probably never win a single game with an army like that? but at least you could look cool loosing.

    • @BroadswordWargaming
      @BroadswordWargaming  11 місяців тому +1

      @@bopaintsminis that's all the matters!

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 11 місяців тому +2

    Thank you , Broadsword .
    🐺 Loupis Canis .

  • @justarandomname420
    @justarandomname420 11 місяців тому +1

    So, you have chosen heresy.
    Yes, Inquisitor, right this way.

  • @3Xero3
    @3Xero3 11 місяців тому

    Warning! Pure heresy ahead!!

  • @Phenixtri
    @Phenixtri 11 місяців тому +25

    indeed i dont waste money because my 3d printer goes burr.

    • @golvic1436
      @golvic1436 11 місяців тому +1

      Same

    • @BroadswordWargaming
      @BroadswordWargaming  11 місяців тому +8

      Sure, you Burr away! Not quite what I was looking at, but the more models the merrier!

  • @piotrjeske4599
    @piotrjeske4599 11 місяців тому +1

    I fell for the "play what you like" and " everything is good once in a while meme" . Picked my army at the start of 8th ed. Horrible expiriance, first l went with what l liked (terminators) then slowly began buying in to what was considered the proper way to play with the army (zero terminators) . Found out that even the best of the best for my faction pales in comperation to what other factions were running localy. 9th was a slog for 2 years, one of the worse factions to play, no new models , but l invested so much money, that l wanted to wait for the new codex. When it dropped in 9th, the army became good, but only if you used 6 (later 5) of one of the worse looking models in the entire game. By the time l got to 3 of those, GW nerfed the army and released so much crazy stuff that the army went back to being unfun to play. Ah and in 9th we got one new model a special character, and what l thought was a terminator librarian. But l later found out it was a general all space marine librarian model. Then 10th came . The army seemed interesting with new core rules, but then l saw and later played with the index, and it felt like being in 8th ed index all over again. Now l feel just bad. Wasted a ton of money, 7 years of my life, was frustrated at something that was suppose to make me forget about work, war etc. On top of that l couldnt even get in to painting, or lore, because in three editions GW didn't release much new stuff .

  • @zaynevanday142
    @zaynevanday142 11 місяців тому +1

    Korn 😂

    • @BroadswordWargaming
      @BroadswordWargaming  11 місяців тому

      Just a "freak on a leash".

    • @MrTrilbe
      @MrTrilbe 11 місяців тому

      @@BroadswordWargaming always knew Ciara wore the pants in your relationship, but now we know she holds the leash too 😉

  • @devinstewart8073
    @devinstewart8073 11 місяців тому +2

    HERESY!

  • @Thatworldeatersguy
    @Thatworldeatersguy 11 місяців тому

    Best value Warhammer army is a 3D printed one😂

    • @BroadswordWargaming
      @BroadswordWargaming  11 місяців тому

      Not quite where I was going here, but sure, 3d printing them is cheaper.. but you'd still need to paint multiple armies. I value my time above all else, really.

  • @danieljvanrensburg
    @danieljvanrensburg 11 місяців тому +2

    3d printing literally gives you 2000 points armies for 70 euros of resin

    • @BroadswordWargaming
      @BroadswordWargaming  11 місяців тому +2

      Sure! Not quite where I was going with it, but that is true.

    • @danieljvanrensburg
      @danieljvanrensburg 11 місяців тому

      @@BroadswordWargaming yeah, tbh as a 17 year old it's all I can afford 🤣