What is Apple authorized repair REALLY like?

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 909

  • @laminatedsamurai
    @laminatedsamurai 2 роки тому +596

    Personal opinion from someone that has never worked for CSAT and has no relation to it.
    Why keep people from bringing their cell phones into the facility? Probably to help prevent any kind of documentation video/audio/photos of these exact conditions and treatments of workers. The isolation from the outside world is just a bonus.

    • @chudchadanstud
      @chudchadanstud 2 роки тому +61

      yup. It's quite common in production facilities.I work in R&D so I move from site to site. I'm not allowed to bring my cellphone in unless it's a company phone. Those things riddled with corporate spyware so I never take turn them on when I'm traveling.

    • @rossmanngroup
      @rossmanngroup  2 роки тому +77

      Have some pride in your abusive working conditions, that's what we do.
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    • @adamcarter7826
      @adamcarter7826 2 роки тому +41

      Honestly, I don't blame a large repair "factory" having 100's of employees, not allowing personal devices. Dishonest employees could use the device to take photos of customers private information, or steal files from customers devices, using a bluetooth connection.... I worked at GeekSquad for a bit before opening my own shop, and if I remember correctly they had the same policy if you were in the geek squad repair area. (this was one of the only areas that had this limitation) This is to protect the customers. They also had a policy that ONLY employees of Geek Squad were allowed in the repair area, to limit issues like this, or employees stealing customers devices. It sucks, but eventually if you are big enough, one bad employee can screw it up for everyone else. My shop has a policy that if you are caught looking at someone's personal files ONCE, your fired, no write up, no second chance, your gone. I have been in the repair industry for 23 years, and I have seen this happen before, and 100% not acceptable. In a small businesses like mine or yours, WE have better control, due to having less employees...
      Everything else, ya they suck.. But they have to protect customers data, and you can't be mad at them for that.

    • @chudchadanstud
      @chudchadanstud 2 роки тому +10

      @@rossmanngroup They're repairing customers products. They probably don't want sensitive info getting out. It's not like a small facility with 10 workers. I'm not supporting their behaviour, in the UK they'd be in court, most of the stuff reported is illegal here.

    • @chrismarku
      @chrismarku 2 роки тому +10

      'And goddamn you if you're calling me about my car's extended warranty...I WILL FUCK YOU UP SO BAD' Funniest thing ever heard. Keep up the good work sir 👍🏼

  • @Heizenberg32
    @Heizenberg32 2 роки тому +168

    I arranged "authorized" repairs for hundreds of Macs and thousands of I-devices in a previous job. Years of handling such repairs in the "manufacturer approved" way led me to the false belief that board-level repair was something that just wasn't done at any significant scale. That swapping out entire mother boards, displays, etc. was the only practical way to repair these kind of devices commercially. I thought desoldering and replacing individual components like chips and capacitors was relegated to enthusiasts who had a lot of free time and were willing to risk breaking the thing even worse. I know better now. It hurts to think of all of the customers who I was not serving as well as I thought I was at the time.

    • @petlahk4119
      @petlahk4119 2 роки тому +2

      This facility does not do board level repair. 90% sure they send that overseas.

    • @Rose.Of.Hizaki
      @Rose.Of.Hizaki 2 роки тому +3

      Im 99% sure that Apple sends a lot of their faulty devices overseas where they get completely stripped down and recycled. With a lot of the components either sold to other manufacturers if not re-used to repair other faulty devices.

  • @calvinteh3297
    @calvinteh3297 2 роки тому +368

    These stories remind me of movies like Snowpiercer, Hunger Games, Elysium, etc. Everything looks slick and clean but underneath it all, the people toiling away to maintain the facade live and work in deplorable conditions.

    • @SaHaRaSquad
      @SaHaRaSquad 2 роки тому +38

      In dictatorships this is reality. Turkmenistan's capital city has over 500 buildings covered with white marble.
      When you don't want people to look too closely, show them some shiny things. Works with oppressive regimes, works with Apple.

    • @bgiv2010
      @bgiv2010 2 роки тому +8

      At the heart of dystopian fiction is the sober observation of the relationship between misery and greed.

    • @Steel0079
      @Steel0079 2 роки тому +4

      Is Elysium worth watching?

    • @shsnehansen661
      @shsnehansen661 2 роки тому +4

      @@Steel0079 yeah. Probably. It won't change your life but it's definitely not a waste of time.

    • @Pyxis10
      @Pyxis10 2 роки тому +8

      We live in a boring dystopia.

  • @GrifFungin
    @GrifFungin 2 роки тому +128

    They can’t take their phones inside the building because it would allow them to video record the poor working conditions.

    • @nffan696
      @nffan696 2 роки тому +6

      True

    • @Kirainian_Gaming
      @Kirainian_Gaming Рік тому +2

      Poor work conditions? No no no… this borders on inhumane.

    • @katkatthecat
      @katkatthecat 9 місяців тому

      Correct! No evidence, it didn’t happen, and is conspiracy theorist hearsay! But once you see the truth you cannot unsee it

  • @KabukeeJo
    @KabukeeJo 2 роки тому +278

    I am just waiting for Apple to double down and design a chip that self destructs after you solder it a 2nd time.

    • @AdamIsUrqed
      @AdamIsUrqed 2 роки тому +45

      They'll call it the MI chip for "Mission Impossible" just to further troll independent shops.

    • @ian2372
      @ian2372 2 роки тому +49

      As soon as you touch the screws to release the back panel it self dissolves in a puff of smoke that makes a middle finger on the way up.

    • @TheOriginalJphyper
      @TheOriginalJphyper 2 роки тому +11

      Don't give them ideas!

    • @user-ty2uz4gb7v
      @user-ty2uz4gb7v 2 роки тому +9

      Serialization is worse

    • @pilotavery
      @pilotavery 2 роки тому +25

      They do that. It's called a flux fuse. If reflowed for too long, the solder bridges shorting itself. TPM chips use it, but I'd be surprised if apple didn't.

  • @user-vu8fm5vb4n
    @user-vu8fm5vb4n 2 роки тому +172

    "Who designs computer like this? Why?"
    Apple does, because they "think different"

    • @youtubesucks8024
      @youtubesucks8024 2 роки тому +7

      Differently*
      It drives me mad that they ran that campaign with the grammar quality of their product design.

    • @SharpBritannia
      @SharpBritannia 2 роки тому +1

      And by different they actually mean wrong

    • @louistournas120
      @louistournas120 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@SharpBritannia Maybe Apple devices are not meant to be repaired. They are like paper cups and paper plates and plastic forks.
      Remember Funcams? Use it once and then they develop the film and the camera gets thrown away.
      Remember one time use DVDs? I don't remember but you rent the DVD and once you open the package, it lasts for 1 day. The plastic becomes dark red and unreadable. You throw it away.
      At certain dollar stores, you have one time use battery chargers. They contain a Li-ion batt. You use it to charge your cellphone and throw away the battery.

    • @kwhyes5619
      @kwhyes5619 2 роки тому

      @@louistournas120 yes

    • @arahman56
      @arahman56 2 роки тому +1

      C O U R A G E

  • @MrDavepeters
    @MrDavepeters 2 роки тому +69

    Many Asian countries consider using sit-on toilets to be unclean, they use squatting toilets. So some tend to squat on the toilet and may miss....
    Isle of Wight, UK.

    • @mlindholm
      @mlindholm 2 роки тому +13

      That's exactly it...squatting or hovering to avoid touching the seat with a western toilet, leads to pissing and shitting on the seat, which means anyone else after them will only do the same, exacerbating the issue. So having a high ratio of folks who would do that by default, means the seat will ALWAYS have some piss or shit on it.

    • @carlangelo653
      @carlangelo653 2 роки тому +4

      @@mlindholm Also some people are pretty much forced to squat because they want to avoid the shit on the seat. Making the initial problem worsen.

    • @shakalpb1164
      @shakalpb1164 2 роки тому +15

      Damn a positive shit loop, how long for the entire world to be covered

    • @beware_the_moose
      @beware_the_moose 2 роки тому +1

      @@shakalpb1164 positurd feedback!

    • @rexsceleratorum1632
      @rexsceleratorum1632 2 роки тому +9

      As a south Asian, I find this a reasonable explanation. In Asia there is always a hand-held bidet or other access to water in a squatting toilet to wash off any mishaps

  • @DamianInman
    @DamianInman 2 роки тому +173

    I used Authorized repair to replace a screen that cracked. I then got a recall on the battery and took it to an Apple Store for replacement. They hesitated to change the battery because the authorized repair did not use an Apple Screen... What good is Authorized repair if they do not even use the genuine Apple parts?

    • @liucyrus22
      @liucyrus22 2 роки тому +10

      Should have their license revoked, given that you have paid good money for that screen. Chinese sources for the Retina screens are going for perhaps $150 a pop for fakes and $300 for the real deal. That is the case if you are not able to just swap the LCD like how they are able to on a hot table.

    • @declanashmore
      @declanashmore 2 роки тому +4

      My question is: what does the screen have to do with replacing the battery that was bad enough for even Apple to do a recall?

    • @trashtronics1700
      @trashtronics1700 2 роки тому +1

      The real issue is all and I mean all electronics from apple come from china but if u don't get it threw them including parts they won't warranty it

    • @Antervis
      @Antervis 2 роки тому

      simple: certain repair shops can swap original working parts with fakes to resell them later. This malpractice was first discovered at large in 2013, China.

  • @Bigredtower
    @Bigredtower 2 роки тому +120

    When someone says "authorized repair", I hear, "teenage wage slaves who want to creep your photos really, really bad".
    Also, I get a massive surge of those exact spam calls every month when my cable bill is due. Phone scamming is highly profitable, just ask Comcast.

    • @maxmyzer9172
      @maxmyzer9172 2 роки тому +1

      I get the same calls, wonder if someone has my number down on their phone bill

    • @Antervis
      @Antervis 2 роки тому +1

      this can happen in both authorized and unauthorized repair shops. Tbh I wonder why apple didn't yet come up with "repair mode" that will only give personnel access to settings, not data. It can be done simply by implementing "guest" account.

  • @c3pu333
    @c3pu333 2 роки тому +70

    Whenever a company calls their employee "associates" you know their staff is treated like shit.

  • @excitedbox5705
    @excitedbox5705 2 роки тому +149

    Authorized repair doesn't fix, they replace. The reason it is so expensive is because they replace a motherboard because a 10 cent part is broken. AND the high service fees of course.

    • @SaHaRaSquad
      @SaHaRaSquad 2 роки тому +10

      If they are even able to replace anything other than the whole device. With the Surface Pro 1 it would take professionals a full hour just to open the device without destroying the display, and then it cannot be closed again without visible glue traces. The Surface Laptop can't be opened without literally melting the keyboard.

    • @3v068
      @3v068 2 роки тому +2

      replace a motherboard? Bruv they wont even do THAT. They straight up give you a brand new device and transfer all of your files onto it, and not even in a smart way. They make a backup of your phone, copy it to their own servers in the cloud, and put it on a new device. These fucking losers dont even know how to fix the things they create.

    • @duketogo2616
      @duketogo2616 2 роки тому +3

      @@3v068 - They don't handle data. You're getting back a refurbed device and your old phone is being harvested for useable parts.

    • @3v068
      @3v068 2 роки тому +2

      @@duketogo2616 incorrect. If they didn't handle your data, they would be giving you a refurbished phone without any data whatsoever on it. The fact that companies will copy your data to another device when going in for a "repair" means they are handling your data.
      Considering they're the manufacturer of the phone as well, they can easily get into the operating system without a password if they so choose and even take your data from there just for the hell of it (just because it's illegal doesn't mean that companies still don't do it.)
      The entire job of the person handling your "repair" is to take all of your data and transfer it to a new device. That's data handling 101

    • @duketogo2616
      @duketogo2616 2 роки тому +5

      @@3v068 - I work for Apple. If you send in a phone for mail in repair the unit you receive will be what's called an FRU or Factory Replacement Unit. It's a device made specifically for service replacement and any remaining warranty from your old phone is transferred over to it. The serial number will be different. If you forgot to remove the SIM or any screen protectors, you won't be getting those back. Any data on the phone will be lost as you will not be getting the same unit returned and Apple will not transfer any data from the old device. Apple can't access your data without your passcode and they won't ask you for it.
      The only time you're getting the same phone back is if you have service done at an Apple Retail Store and the only way you're getting the data back is if you already have a backup or if the issue isn't with something on the logic board which contains all your data. If anything is wrong with that board and you don't have a backup, you either get someone like Louis or Jessa to repair the board or that data is gone.

  • @marcopollo366
    @marcopollo366 2 роки тому +128

    "PLEASE DONT BE CALLING ABOUT MY CAR WARRANTY!!!"
    "This is Hilton Hotels"
    🤪😂🤫 Be careful what you ask for

    • @Nirrrina
      @Nirrrina 2 роки тому +3

      I get that same damn call about the car warranty.
      I've never owned a car & I've never had a driver's license.

  • @raymondrenfrowrayren98trib34
    @raymondrenfrowrayren98trib34 2 роки тому +42

    I think the reason authorized repair shops only do certain repairs is because if their workers knew how to do everything like the way Louis does they would open up their own shops.

    • @sigma6656
      @sigma6656 2 роки тому +6

      I'd be interested to see the contracts they sign. There may be a clause to prevent just that.

  • @hailembradley8618
    @hailembradley8618 2 роки тому +26

    No AC in a Texas building is freaking insane!

    • @mikek9297
      @mikek9297 2 роки тому

      Texas ! No AC is the summer. No power in the winter.

  • @deadbzeus
    @deadbzeus 2 роки тому +168

    Some people make a living doing what they love, Louis deals with things he hates.

    • @rossmanngroup
      @rossmanngroup  2 роки тому +106

      I like making people happy by fixing their stuff, saving their data, and saving them money over what they would've paid at the genius bar.

    • @WanderTheNomad
      @WanderTheNomad 2 роки тому +16

      Spite is a pretty common motivator.

    • @EpicGamer-no3yj
      @EpicGamer-no3yj 2 роки тому +14

      Some people live to improve everything. He started at laptops and now is working to improve social sentiment, awareness, and policy.
      Really just an inspirational dude.

  • @eaglefalcon
    @eaglefalcon 2 роки тому +55

    Might I recommend trying to get the car extended warranty people to extend the warranty on the Volvo VNL 780 Semi truck you totally have? Just make sure not to tell them it's an 18 wheeler so they get frustrated when they find out you gave the model number of a semi. That's how I got them to finally take me off their list.

    • @rossmanngroup
      @rossmanngroup  2 роки тому +35

      Paul asks them about his 1987 ford bronco and they hang up on him every time. Not even a goodbye...

    • @throwaway692
      @throwaway692 2 роки тому +13

      I tell them I have a 56 DeSoto and that I'd love to buy a warranty. I keep them on the phone for as long as I can and they are the ones that always end the call. And wouldn't you know it... those stupid assclowns still call.

    • @eaglefalcon
      @eaglefalcon 2 роки тому +14

      @@throwaway692 what I've learned is that you really need to piss them off. If you mention an old car, they just hang up and move to the next guy. With a modern semi, they have to put effort into finding out I'm screwing with them this becoming more than just white noise

    • @---jj9lf
      @---jj9lf 2 роки тому

      @@eaglefalcon what would be the most expensive semi to tell them?

    • @---jj9lf
      @---jj9lf 2 роки тому +5

      @@eaglefalcon even better, tell them a fake, but believable, vehicle so they wast their time searching.

  • @jameswest848
    @jameswest848 2 роки тому +38

    In the UK, on building sites at least, it's illegal to have less than one toilet available per 20 employees. This was an exam question on the building site safety certification I have to renew every few years.

    • @leonro
      @leonro 2 роки тому +5

      The problem is that even here they might have one toilet for every 20 employees, it's just that most of those toilets are only available to the high ranking guys. Either that or they are somehow evading the law by having the workers not actually "employed".

    • @owensparks5013
      @owensparks5013 2 роки тому +1

      Can confirm similar laws regarding factories in the UK.

    • @PacificNatureTV
      @PacificNatureTV 2 роки тому

      Remember this company is in texas which has decimated workers rights and doesnt care about their safety or health. It's called "being business friendly"

    • @stusue9733
      @stusue9733 2 роки тому

      I do wonder if its because they are working in a "warehouse". Sure it was built as a warehouse, then they rolled in 300 desks.

    • @BigJProductions
      @BigJProductions 2 роки тому +1

      the bit you don't mention is the vast majority of workers on uk building sites are NOT employees. mostly sub-contractors. in my experience the only employees are the foreman and the labourer. .....soooo...2 employees=1toilet. 1 toilets used by 300 workers in total. uk is a joke.

  • @iyeetsecurity922
    @iyeetsecurity922 2 роки тому +28

    I have an authorized repair facility in the spare room of my house. I've been taking my electronics there for years. The guy working there's a bit odd but he gets the job done properly and on the cheap. *4/5 Stars*

  • @Bri-bn5kt
    @Bri-bn5kt 2 роки тому +6

    Authorized Repair = "We signed a contract and paid a fee so we could slap a badge on our website to attract customers and look like we know what we're doing". That's it. That's all there is to "authorized repair".

  • @BlindMango
    @BlindMango 2 роки тому +9

    "Here's a 50 cent raise after 3 years" lmfao that's an insult - how would that not encourage her EVEN MORE to leave?

  • @CyReVolt
    @CyReVolt 2 роки тому +74

    Louis' daily rants on Apple 🧡

    • @joedennehy386
      @joedennehy386 2 роки тому +7

      Thoroughly deserved " rants" evil bastards

    • @AppleReviews
      @AppleReviews 2 роки тому +4

      it is time to do same thing on Samsung, Dell and others :/

    • @ACOnetwork
      @ACOnetwork 2 роки тому

      @@AppleReviews you know... other companies love copyi g apple stuff 🤔

  • @r.b.ratieta6111
    @r.b.ratieta6111 2 роки тому +24

    All the dislikes on this video are from Hilton executives.

  • @insertnamehere8121
    @insertnamehere8121 2 роки тому +45

    " *Take it to the authorized repair center, they're going to do it properly* "
    Aka Once you receive Apple approval, you are suddenly bestowed with a level of human accuracy that the ordinary human is not.
    Many of these people would literally tell you that the exact same repair performed under Apple approval is better for what amounts to "because Apple bestowed its blessing".
    Apple has done a great job of creating a cult mentality around that logo, and I'm an Apple user btw

    • @AstonGryffynn
      @AstonGryffynn 2 роки тому +1

      Word. In an Apple user too, but I would never deal with them directly.

    • @chaddts
      @chaddts 2 роки тому +2

      Apple uses you.

    • @miscl_anon
      @miscl_anon Рік тому

      >suddenly bestowed
      it's less that, and more apple's reputation. apple's customers expect that apple's high standards for quality extend to repairs, and so the places that are authorized to do them must be the best of the best. not so, quite evidently

  • @ra7orblade
    @ra7orblade 2 роки тому +9

    Some Asians don't sit on the toilet, they squat after standing on top of it - that's how you get it on the seat.
    Its so bad, some building sites here in Australia have "Do not squat over the toilet" signs and icons in the dunnies.

  • @reedriker4772
    @reedriker4772 2 роки тому +21

    Unbelievable. Absolutely insane they are still trying to frame us as the ones unsuited for repair. The condition of the CSAT work environment makes me sick; if only we had worker unions in this country to prevent mistreatment of employees and stand up to misconduct and this heinous behavior.

    • @MessyPointedBlob
      @MessyPointedBlob 2 роки тому

      That's exactly why CSAT doesn't directly hire the employees but instead recontract the labor. If the sub-contractor suddenly has unionizing employees, they can drop them like a rock.
      Many companies from big tech to legacy multinationals do the same thing.

    • @silverhawkscape2677
      @silverhawkscape2677 2 роки тому +1

      Amd once we get Unions, they'll start abusing their power and screwing us over instead. :(
      We can't have nice things anymore.

  • @StriKe_jk
    @StriKe_jk 2 роки тому +73

    The ONLY benefit of these branded repairshop is that they have access to all parts and software tools. That is why they try to limit these at all costs. They would be blown out of the water in terms of quality and pricing of the repair if everyone had access to all hardware parts and software tools and documentations.

    • @queazocotal
      @queazocotal 2 роки тому +2

      I wonder how meaningfully true this is, and what level of repair they are doing.

    • @queazocotal
      @queazocotal 2 роки тому +1

      That is, what fraction of board level repairs are done for non-absolutely-trivial issues that are repairable with commodity parts, vs deeming stuff unrepairable for throughput reasons.

    • @testaccount4191
      @testaccount4191 2 роки тому

      i wonder if those parts go walk about sometimes

    • @xys007
      @xys007 2 роки тому

      The only miss one piece from your jigsaw puzzle. A stuff that do care.

    • @adamcarter7826
      @adamcarter7826 2 роки тому

      @@testaccount4191 One company that I worked for years ago had metal detectors, every single employee had to go pass them at the end of the day... and they only made CD/DVD's... Can't have Jay-Z's new album hitting the streets a few weeks early. Once the album was released, employees could buy it for $1

  • @BeardGrizzly
    @BeardGrizzly 2 роки тому +26

    Apple is in the business of "as cheap as possible" which translates to "paid as little as possible." It's not good for them, says the investors.

    • @carlangelo653
      @carlangelo653 2 роки тому +2

      For such a large and wealthy company their devices are repaired and built at extremely low prices in appalling conditions.
      Which is fucked since they already try to earn as much as possible from their consumers, yet they still feel the need to make even more money from the people who build their overpriced garbage. Apple really is the embodiment of GREED.

    • @lvsluggo007
      @lvsluggo007 5 місяців тому

      Thats how Apple can reach that trillion+ market cap... You don't want Tim Cook to not be able to afford another yacht or jet, do you?

  • @williefleete
    @williefleete 2 роки тому +19

    The person crapping on the seat is probably a “hover-er”

    • @REIDAE
      @REIDAE 2 роки тому +1

      Well, would you want to touch a toilet seat used by hundreds of people?

  • @TheOtherInsuranceGuy
    @TheOtherInsuranceGuy 2 роки тому +4

    I love how Louis' voice immediately changes to that of Lord Farquaad

  • @game_master_rukia
    @game_master_rukia 2 роки тому +17

    why didn't you do a macbook repair in front of all those lawmakers to show them how your shop does things

  • @ZontarDow
    @ZontarDow 2 роки тому +3

    As someone who lives in a place where having an understanding of the language is required to immigrate, I'm constantly baffled by how there can be not just individuals but entire communities in the US that don't speak English.

  • @mikedavison4313
    @mikedavison4313 2 роки тому +5

    When they say "complies with federal laws" it means they provide the bare minimum, or push the boundaries of interpreting those laws to an even lower level.

  • @6581punk
    @6581punk 2 роки тому +8

    So basically if a garage repaired your car like Apple repairs laptops they would replace the engine if it wouldn't start.

  • @KhalilBigtas
    @KhalilBigtas 2 роки тому +2

    Explanation on how people end up shitting on the toilet seat:
    Toilet seat is disgusting and unsanitary enough that people refuse to sit properly on it. So some of them will squat on the toilet or prop themselves up in an awkward position so their asses don't line up properly with the bowl.
    I used to live in a crappy dormitory where some people would do this. It's horrible and it makes the problem a lot worse, mainly because janitors become much more intimidated about cleaning the bowls than before.

  • @stuartpenman6387
    @stuartpenman6387 2 роки тому +16

    it's like taking your car to the dealership for repair - costs more and done by - by the book robots

    • @marxmaiale9981
      @marxmaiale9981 2 роки тому +1

      At least the dealership repair people, repair the car. Instead of sending it to a sweatshop. Its still at least a 500$ markup.

    • @ieatvirgins
      @ieatvirgins 2 роки тому

      What's the best way to find a good local repair shop for my car?

    • @stuartpenman6387
      @stuartpenman6387 2 роки тому

      @@ieatvirgins honestly, word of mouth and goggle but for me what works best to talk to the owner and then say ok am going to shop around as money as tight,the good ones offer alternatives and advice

  • @deilusi
    @deilusi 2 роки тому +3

    9:00 "we take allegations seriously", next day all of those workers will have an unpaid standup meeting with managers on a hall that will be set twice as hot as usual, and will probably stand there unless 5 people will say that they are the ones who talked to press.

  • @quadsnipershotp1lvl4
    @quadsnipershotp1lvl4 2 роки тому +12

    Should open a shop in Houston and be next the repair place lol

  • @port_of_dandong
    @port_of_dandong 2 роки тому +1

    Fun fact: Mac computers taken in for service at the Genius Bar are only sent to Depot for Apple Stores based in the US. In Canada and pretty much every other country, units are repaired directly AT THE STORE, and the people working the Genius Bar are VERY well compensated, with very good working conditions.

  • @zachanikwano
    @zachanikwano 2 роки тому +1

    We need more people like you in this world Louis.
    Thank you for being you -- honest, hardworking and funny among other amazing attributes -- and especially for taking a stand for what's ethical regarding business and spreading awareness.
    Also the cats. 💯👌🏽

  • @yepme6484
    @yepme6484 2 роки тому +3

    Louis you're right you have a passion to do a great job

  • @HeadsetHistorian
    @HeadsetHistorian 2 роки тому +3

    Apple authorized repair could be the best in the world but it wouldn't change the fact that a lot of the repairs they do are either unnecessary or shouldn't have been an issue in the first place.
    Genius.

  • @Nick-Lab
    @Nick-Lab 2 роки тому +1

    When I was a teenager, my 1st job was at walmart. There, the cart boys had to maintain the bathrooms too. The way u get poo on the seat is when the toilets are filthy to begin with, people try to hover while they do their business. Clearly, when your knees start shaking, your aim goes out the door.

  • @Zeldon567
    @Zeldon567 2 роки тому +2

    19:35 Worked at Walmart as maintenance. Still a mystery to me how so much shit ends up outside of the bowl.

  • @brianwillis3892
    @brianwillis3892 2 роки тому +4

    Alleged: "feces on the toilet seat"
    Louis: ~short circuits~

  • @Kitsunary
    @Kitsunary 2 роки тому +3

    I hope Framework's laptops work out. An easy to fix modular laptop is the only way to counter bs.

  • @christianrichert5197
    @christianrichert5197 2 роки тому

    I love your work!
    Showing people how to do something properly is so important, and as you say, whether you know how to repair something or not is not related to whether you are approved by the OEM.
    This becomes really apparent in cars, it really doesn't make a difference if you go to a brand contracted garage or a free one, you always have a 50/50 chance to get skreewed over.
    There is a great german channel (Die Autodoktoren) who are doing basically what you are doing but with cars. In terms of advocating that free garages are also good.
    Again, your work is very important. Keep it up!

  • @surpriseraisin5892
    @surpriseraisin5892 2 роки тому +2

    Fantastic article, good job Rachel

  • @excitedbox5705
    @excitedbox5705 2 роки тому +4

    Interesting that apple values the people pushing the brand image 2x as high as the people doing repairs.

  • @EarlHare
    @EarlHare 2 роки тому +3

    "If he worked his butt off."
    They are being literal here.

  • @AdjutorMusic
    @AdjutorMusic 2 роки тому +1

    This channel is just great man🙏

  • @Sivertsen3
    @Sivertsen3 2 роки тому +2

    The branded repair shop is working exactly as intended. It's extracting as much profits out of the repairs as possible with the minimum possible pay, minimum effort spent on worker conditions, and of course minimum effort repairs with prices for them as high as possible. Independent repair is a threat to this business model, as it takes away business from the profit machine that is branded repair.
    You have to understand, the trillion dollar companies didn't become trillion dollar companies by being nice to employees or customers, or producing the best products. Pulling out profits wherever possible, while keeping the appearance of being the nice guy plays a major role in the strategy.

  • @ZeddPl
    @ZeddPl 2 роки тому +3

    Louis, did you see that modular laptop from Framework, that Linus featured in recent video? Great example that laptops *can* be done repairable.

  • @insertnamehere8121
    @insertnamehere8121 2 роки тому +15

    How can Apple be the end-point authority on construction and repair of Apple devices, when those devices are assembled by Chinese manufacturers ? See how that works ?

    • @jame3shook
      @jame3shook 2 роки тому

      they cant...Apple is an assembler (term borrowed from automotive industry) of parts.

  • @user-eq8ww1gr6v
    @user-eq8ww1gr6v 2 роки тому +2

    You brought the receipts. You would make my old college professors (Cite your sources!) very happy,

  • @skaterballbreaker
    @skaterballbreaker 2 роки тому

    Loved the "flummoxed Louis" cold open. Great stuff.

  • @pronoob6927
    @pronoob6927 2 роки тому +3

    Glad to see u did not lose ur ballz after this mornings bike ride.

  • @alcedob.5850
    @alcedob.5850 2 роки тому +7

    Yeah, few steps of outsourcing are surely safer in terms of privacy...

  • @oswaldjh
    @oswaldjh 2 роки тому +2

    Some people squat on the toilet seat.
    I found this out when I walked into a bathroom stall at an electronics assembly plant and saw foot prints on the seat.

  • @lanmastersassistant659
    @lanmastersassistant659 2 роки тому

    this was really educational. i have a good local repair place, i've used them in the past, im gonna trust them much more now

  • @hellowaves
    @hellowaves 2 роки тому +4

    I hate Apple, but after watching your channel, I truly despise them and banned their products in our house.

    • @jamesdallas1493
      @jamesdallas1493 2 роки тому

      I agree with you. No Apple products in my house

  • @eugenet453
    @eugenet453 2 роки тому +6

    "Thank you for choosing Hilton hotel"

  • @drwombat
    @drwombat 2 роки тому +1

    Hey Louis, seems like R2R is causing some heads to turn and it appears your message is being heard by loads of new listeners. Really glad for you.

  • @scottmc2626
    @scottmc2626 2 роки тому

    Two bathroom stalls for hundreds of workers: That tells me they were using warehouse space (which costs a fraction per square foot of office space) for am office use. In a warehouse there are usually a dozen employees with most of the space being taken up by "wares" (hence the name). When they converted this space to a use it wasn't designed for, they apparently did nothing to adapt it to the new use, such as add more bathrooms and 400 BTU per body of A/C.
    This all tracks because the workers also complained about the A/C. In addition to what was in place for a warehouse, if there were 250 more people working there than anticipated by the design, an additional 250*400 = 100,000 BTU of A/C is necessary, which they obviously also neglected, making the whole place LITERALLY a sweatshop.

  • @EdyBraun
    @EdyBraun 2 роки тому +6

    Feces on toilet seats... When you're waiting for 10 minutes to use the toilet as your gut is about to bust open from that burrito you engulfed over your brief lunch so you can squeeze in a few more fixes, and you don't have time to properly position yourself and take proper aim...

  • @9madness9
    @9madness9 2 роки тому +3

    Lets hope for company like Framework to out sell apple soon as the idea is awesome

  • @CubicSpline7713
    @CubicSpline7713 2 роки тому +1

    People from the middle east and far east are very used to "squat toilets". If you dont know what that is, google it.
    When they come to the west they continue that way of doing their business. So they put their feet on either side of the toilet lid (where you are meant to sit)
    and then squat.
    So they inevitably miss and shit goes everywhere.
    I used to work in a company where they had graphical signs on the inside of the toilet door showing how to do a shit into the toilet, because some of our staff were from China and didnt understand that they were meant to "just sit". Not saying that all people from those parts of the world do this, but it is very common.

  • @kattz753
    @kattz753 2 роки тому +1

    I can attest to the work of these "authorized repair centres." Years ago I bought a Galaxy Note II from my carrier. It was a lemon from the word go. I returned it to the carrier several times and it just came back worse. Finally, the warranty was running out so I drove to Samsung in Toronto. They called me to the counter and told me that they weren't going to cover it because I had brutalized it. I had to return home and fax the paperwork before they would cover it. It finally worked but I had to use a $75 Windows Phone for a year instead of my very expensive Samsung.

  • @purplerunner1715
    @purplerunner1715 2 роки тому +9

    When the toilet is dirty, I guess you would stand on the seat with your shoes on and then crutch down and aim the best you can. It's a common thing in drug addict living locations in this country years ago. But I guess it's a common thing for American workers as well, when companies are allowed to have no shame and plenty of greed.

  • @rijaja
    @rijaja 2 роки тому +11

    I knew Apple was full of shit, but not to the point of having a higher profit percentage on their repairs than on their overpriced products.

  • @Dragon_Screamer
    @Dragon_Screamer 2 роки тому

    Clover Wireless ex-employee here. I worked both as a repair technician and one of their main IT technicians. Clover Wireless was an authorized Apple repair warehouse here in Mexico. The exact same conditions CSAT Solutions keep their employees in, applied here. Employees were kept in two outsourcing companies and never were truly contracted by the parent company itself. We often got visits from Apple representatives, that looked at us like pieces of meat that should kneel to them. The wage was miserable, the conditions were repulsive. The exact same problems, and the exact same excuses CSAT gave, were given by Clover Wireless representatives to act the way they do.
    I am completely, and utterly sure Apple KNOWS about all this.

  • @rossmanngroup
    @rossmanngroup  2 роки тому +417

    She spent 3+ months researching this piece... 3 months. I had two other journalists reach out to me who were interested in this story in 2019, but I never heard back from them. Doing cursory investigation was probably too much work, and god forbid they piss off a company that's a major advertiser. This was good stuff. Say thanks. twitter.com/rrpre/status/1420049932854218757 Good journalism necessitates appreciation so we get more of it.

    • @AexisRai
      @AexisRai 2 роки тому +6

      The third post in Rachel's short thread is interesting to me:
      ".@munster_gene says that Apple must have a repair process that works "flawlessly" - no shipping delays or faulty service
      That puts the pressure on the contract workers who work up to 13 hours a day fixing your MacBooks"
      That word "flawlessly" sure is interesting in the context of Apple repair practices! Sure, perhaps it *does* "flawlessly" perform the specific wasteful process it was designed to perform!

    • @DT-Nicky
      @DT-Nicky 2 роки тому

      If you want a data only plan Tello is an option.

    • @Steel0079
      @Steel0079 2 роки тому

      It's a complex supply chain, Louis

    • @Bill_DeBerry
      @Bill_DeBerry 2 роки тому +4

      hey Louis, have you seen Linus's new video about the framework laptop? If not i recommend checking it out, it could provide some ammo for the next time you're speaking out for right to repair.

    • @METALmurdererOG
      @METALmurdererOG 2 роки тому +4

      Good journalism doesn't get done these days. Doesn't generate enough rage clicks, sadly. Props to the writer of this piece, glad to see there are still a few actual *journalists* out there instead of morons trying to spin news to their personal politics.

  • @quartzofcourse
    @quartzofcourse 2 роки тому

    You’re telling me I get to hear someone read this article to me, get around their insider pay wall, and have commentary from Louis all in one video? What a deal!

  • @tylerward6723
    @tylerward6723 2 роки тому +4

    Apple does. This has always been one of the problems with Apple.

  • @DannyPhix
    @DannyPhix 2 роки тому +11

    “And god damn you if you’re calling me about my car’s extended warranty, I’ll F you up so bad”.
    This is me everyday day. Lmfao

  • @MichaelJantzen42
    @MichaelJantzen42 2 роки тому

    This article reminded me of life at a call center tbh - around the same pay, and the same conditions (except we had more toilets and air conditioning).

  • @randyneves9701
    @randyneves9701 2 роки тому

    Your repair videos are great for having background noise while studying

  • @RadDadisRad
    @RadDadisRad 2 роки тому +11

    As an Apple consumer I really want someone other than Apple to be able to repair my devices. Apple customer service SUCKS!!!!!!!

  • @skenzyme81
    @skenzyme81 2 роки тому +3

    Is this article some kind of weird gambit to discredit repair in general? Many readers won’t get the nuance about this being an “authorized” repair operation.

  • @ondrejsedlak4935
    @ondrejsedlak4935 2 роки тому

    The few iMacs and MacBooks I revived with a simple HDD to SSD upgrade, every single person was told by apple to either have the main board replaced or upgrade to a newer model.
    I am not surprised anymore at the antics of apple and other similar companies.

  • @TechXTech91
    @TechXTech91 2 роки тому

    I worked for a place in Westlake Ohio that was good pay, but they wanted speed over efficiency and good work. They started displaying every one's repair numbers publically and tried to make it a competition, which didn't make any sense because everyone worked on different things. On top of that, i noticed over my bosses shoulder that an email went to all managers to stop employees from chit chatting during repairs because "they might try to unionize"
    Getting laid off because of covid was the best thing that happened to me because i could actually job hunt instead of working monday-friday. most places near me in my electronics field don't do interviews on saturday. We'd get yelled at if we used our sick days because managers had no ideas of scheduling

  • @monara97
    @monara97 2 роки тому +3

    even with the right to repair people with such a stupid mindset could still go for authorized repair. but still, some are not happy 😂

  • @kellcd
    @kellcd 2 роки тому +4

    The guy who shit on the toilet seat probably didn't want to sit down bc the seat was dirty, so he did it standing up and missed. Yeah... I speak from experience.

  • @GregInHouston2
    @GregInHouston2 2 роки тому +1

    No AC??? In Houston!!!! That is nuts. I'm glad I live in the Southeast and not the Northwest.

  • @HitBit_Gaming
    @HitBit_Gaming 2 роки тому

    I worked at a repair shop once on minimum wage repairing branded phones that are under warranty or insurance cases. The people the hired are untrained and only teached a bit by people surrounding them and most of didn't even have any experience with electronics or any idea on how to measure things. The repair time we had for each phone repair was about 15 minutes to reach your target. And that includes ordering parts, take pictures if required, check warranty, repairing, flash software to latest version, test the device and logging every step.
    So basicly people there would rush and replace some random parts and hopefully it tested ok after that. But if you had an intermittent issue it was very hard to under those conditions and ended up being just flashed and returned in the end. I don't work there anymore.
    And this is is happening in the Netherlands, and the only difference was that at least the toilets are clean.

  • @zrtgvbnjkop
    @zrtgvbnjkop 2 роки тому +2

    @Louis Rossmann When you said ”why?!!” @0:02 I could hear the Seinfeld bass starting to play.

  • @TheAVJ2
    @TheAVJ2 2 роки тому

    ive had certified repair from lg for an old led tv and casio for 2 old gshocks theyre from independent shops and typically family owned i havent had issues and in fact the products i had repaired ran better than before.

  • @OmniscientWarrior
    @OmniscientWarrior 2 роки тому +1

    A lot of the same issues that exist with Amazon, which is actually why I stopped using Amazon; which kinda sucked because some of the things I buy regularly is only available in my area through Amazon.

  • @maksudurrahman6489
    @maksudurrahman6489 2 роки тому

    You are right. I worked there last 3 years

  • @scottjones7279
    @scottjones7279 2 роки тому +1

    I would imagine the same holds true with independent auto repair shops and the manufacturer's stealerships.

  • @Dark_Daedalus
    @Dark_Daedalus 2 роки тому +1

    Got a buddy working at a transformer assembly plant, some type of electrical grid system for Amazon and the like. All his employees work out in the warehouse and he just recently got bumped up to an office manager, though 7-9 hours of his 12 hour day is running around the uncooled warehouse. In Houston. It’s absurd.

  • @wylieecoyote
    @wylieecoyote 8 місяців тому

    @Louis Rossmannrepair : Feces on the toilet seat is caused by dirty seats and not much toilet paper.. the people 'hover' above the seat when using them to avoid touching them, which causes misses that hit the seat.
    Authorized repair is trading on their high priced name, while independent repair is about saving the day.

  • @santista211
    @santista211 2 роки тому

    Hey Louis when I was working with Toshiba Canada they pretty much did the same. There was a company that would fix our boards and they were paid by piece work. So about $5.00 per board repair. If the board was not fixable it became parts board for the other boards.

  • @Archabolt
    @Archabolt 2 роки тому

    My factory job has no ac. We had voids in some plastic parts due to summer humidity. Also working around hot mold injection presses.

  • @corey________________1589
    @corey________________1589 2 роки тому

    By far the best UA-cam channel in the world

  • @rohithiyyattil8519
    @rohithiyyattil8519 2 роки тому

    Louis, I am a 90's kid with just 1 genre of apple product, the classic ipods... I agree with you totally when you convey your opinions, and ipods are one of the most easiest things to repair... From that level of customer concern to this? Yes I did learn not to sell my kidneys (because I'm an Indian and it costs us more than 130,000 Rs more than what selling 2 kidneys in the black market would fetch me and it is almost as expensive as my daily commuter bike a Royal Enfield Classic 350,) for a product they have put in as much care as a lousy drunk surgeon operating on a person's brain... Thank you so much for bringing this out here, now I have the ammunition to spread the word, brother... Thank you so much for your efforts regarding the right to repair and unmasking of self-made smartphone monopoly, Apple Inc. I wish I was in New York supporting your cause, but I can never be there... Thank you so much brother...

  • @skaardd
    @skaardd 2 роки тому

    Lewis, you asked how someone could possibly get crap on a toilet seat. There's a thing called "hovering" and its when you try to take a crap without actually sitting on the seat due to sanitary concerns. its easy to miss.
    love your work, keep fighting the good fight.

    • @tylern6420
      @tylern6420 10 місяців тому

      Because toilet paper is overrated

  • @lorenzo42p
    @lorenzo42p Рік тому

    my last job was at a datacenter in nyc. it didn't pay enough to afford an apartment, and I worked nights and weekends when the building would turn off the heat and air conditioning. dealing with emails was insanity. there were many times I'd come in to 100k new emails in my inbox. it was up to each employee to find a solution to deal with it.

  • @OGThinkster
    @OGThinkster 2 роки тому

    12:10. A long time ago, I worked at a repair center that did component level repairs for a large consumer electronics retailer. We got payed a base rate, but in addition to that, each unit we repaired had to be categorized as easy, moderate or complex and each of those had a bonus dollar amount associated with them that would be added to our base rate. This meant, the more "complex" repairs you did per hour, the more money you would make. The problem with this was that workers would lie and put down that repair was complex when really it was easy and sometimes replace parts that didn't need replacing. If this was an out of warranty repair, then the consumer would be charged the higher amount! Repairs that were "easy" were typically gone through as quickly as possible without thoroughness so just the main reported problem was addressed and other obvious potential issues were ignored. I think the hourly model is better at keeping employees more honest!

  • @denisdespins1127
    @denisdespins1127 2 роки тому

    Man Luis, I'm glad you read the whole stinking thing. I can see the mess spread right before me. CRAZY, it's horible for these poor folks. They SHOULD start their own business like you did. They are already doing the work.

  • @cileecemiddleton5334
    @cileecemiddleton5334 2 роки тому +2

    Authorized repair centers are like dealerships mechanics, avoid at all costs. I miss customer replaceable batteries in phones so much.