Thanks so much for this very relevant review. I too live in Perth, WA. I own the extended version in the BYD 'white' which is actually more of a very light oyster grey colour. I was very pleasantly surprised by the colour on picking up the vehicle. Just don't expect a white car! It's light enough to repel a lot of heat in the summer which is my primary reason for always choosing white cars. The safety aspect of white over a darker grey is another important reason too, much as I love grey cars. Now I must say right up front, that I have never driven a Tesla of any description. I intend to take one for a test drive soon, but at this stage, the BYD is the only EV I have ever driven. I have driven some high end cars in my time including some European models renowned for comfort. Personally, I would rate the BYD Atto 3 as the best car I have ever driven. It astounds me every time I drive it, how well put together it is and the level of comfort as standard. The only two misgivings I have so far, are the standard tyres supplied with the car which I replaced with Continentals after a few hundred kMs. The Continentals grip much better so must elevate the safety aspect too. The other is the ride which I find too soft. This is my personal opinion. Some people may really like the ultra soft ride but I think it would be better if there was more damping of the suspension. Getting into our 2016 KIA Sportage GT-Line after driving the Atto 3 is a very noticeable difference in suspension firmness and control. I have very minor gripes with the Atto 3 and would give it a personal 8.5/10 if I was asked to rate it.
Agreed Lou. I have a blue Atto 3 and live in Mandurah and though I've owned a few reasonably expensive mid luxury cars (plus the usual 20 odd dross ones), the Atto is simply the best all round car we've owned. Would still prefer the Ioniq 5 but at 65yo, I'm not going to play some silly lottery game every time Hyundai releases another 80-100 cars. Take my deposit Hyundai, and I'll wait the year.
I live in New Zealand and we have two Teslas, a BYD Atto 3 and an MG ZS EV. I don't regret buying any of them as they all have their pros and cons. Much as I like our MG ZS EV 2022, I think the Atto 3 is worth the extra NZ$6K that it cost me. The Atto 3 is just fine for doing the 470km trip to our holiday home without spending two much time charging. It is comfortable and efficient.
That’s a honest review. You can see your love for Tesla , and how hard it was to be positive about the BYD, so everything you have said is true🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 Thanks👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
The BYD satnav is the only reason for the speed warnings, it doesn't do it otherwise. Also I'm nearly 6'2" and I can still sit comfortably behind the driver seat comfortably.
And Thank You, Sir! Excellent test drive. I did learn more with Your test drive - than I did in mine! Knowledgable man that friend of Yours. Thank You for both of You! It's good to have mates in Perth! Your opinions do matter to me. Anyway, my very own (test drive) went on a similar note. I do love the vibes and comfort of it. Greetings from Adelaide gentleman! Adam. Bye.
Good review thanks. After 7000+km on them in all except icy conditions I can confidently say that the only thing wrong with the standard Batman tyres is the name, they're actually a very good tyre. The problem (if we can call it a problem) is that at 1700kg the A3 is under-tyred with only 215s. For comparison Tesla's similar weight Mod Y runs on 255s, more appropriate to the weight. Having driven the A3 and the MY a fair bit the only advantage I see about the MY is that Tesla's Supercharger network, apart from that I think the A3 is a better all round car despite the price difference. Finally, if you put the A3 into dragstrip mode it does zero to 100 in 6.8, about the same as the standard range MY.
This will be our first EV. Test drove out uncle's one and liked it. Fingers crossed EVDirect needs improvement and hopefully the warranty and servicing isn't too painful....
Servicing; the 1st 12 months $189 $ then $390 2nd year, then 3rd year is $189 and so on every 12months. You pay a lot more for a service the. $189, twice a year, so I feel it’s cheap, yes people say what do you service, well I’m nor a mechanic but for $189 it doesn’t matter to me. 8 year warranty on battery. Toyota have just signed a deal with BYD to make build and deliver the new EV Corolla, Toyota would not sign away the worlds number one selling car most years to ‘any’ company🙏🏼😊😊
400km at 60km/h, many owners it seems are getting about 350km on a full battery but as with any car including ICE cars how you drive, weather conditions, topography, etc will determine range. Also has from memory 3.3kW for VTL system and only is limited to 10A due to the power board otherwise could do up to 16A.
Hello, thanks for the review, I'm from India, BYD recently launched in India as well but unfortunately here it was launched at 66k Australian Dollars on road price making it into a premium category offering, but still have gone ahead and booked one, I really liked it, deliveries expected from Jan 2023, your review was a boosting factor for me to book 1..:)
@@grumpyoldmanandhisev I have both ready for delivery this month, don't like Tesla 3 for it's height being problem for ingress/egress, Tesla Y is great but $25k diff is where I am now thinking, whether is it better value for that price difference?
Interesting review thanks. Funny, no comment on THAT interior design when you first hopped in? Or ever? Very subjective I suppose....not important to some I suspect🙂.
Yes the VTL can be very useful. We had an EV meet recently and the BYD owner brought along an electric BBQ and we had a sausage sizzle courtesy of the Atto 3 :-)
Very informative, but please tell us your height. Also, it may be illegal to disable the noise maker, because the sound is to warn pedestrians of an oncoming vehicle.
I am 6ft tall. In Australia it is not a legal requirement to have an active pedestrian noise generator. Having been around Europe a fair bit recently even as a pedestrian its bloody annoying!
Honestly couldn't care less about one pedal driving. I've driven with it and hated it. It's like driving on low gears on manual, not smooth at all. Coasting/rolling is more efficient than regen braking, you're not losing anything by using brakes - they still regen until the car needs absolute stopping power. I can see numpties getting used to only using the gas pedal and smashing that in an emergency instead of brakes.
Don't understand your nasty attitude about it - you don't have to use it. If people like it then so what? Let them. I've test driven a few with it and no big deal to me - I very quickly got used to it. "You're not losing anything by using brakes... " - well obviously you're wearing out your brakes quicker. A new set of pads isn't always cheap. AND you're missing out on regen - not sure what you mean by: "they still regen until the car needs absolute stopping power" - ??
I've often thought it would be good to have it as part of the breaking system, as you apply the breaks it uses increasing levels of regenerative breaking, with physical breaks making up the last part.
@@ecurb10 pressing on the brakes in any ev is all regen to a certain point. It's the same as lifting the go pedal on Tesla's. Just because you don't have 1 pedal driving, doesn't mean you don't have regen. What I meant is I'd rather have full control of when the car regents rather than feathering the go pedal to keep the car coasting instead of going regen.
@@grumpyoldmanandhisev Very true, however I think premium Chinese EVs are still cheap and have a much better value gap than similar quality premium EVs from the traditional brands. Also i think cheap EVs are still much more expensive than similar quality Gas engine cars.
Fancy indicators being on the RIGHT. I guess that’s for the U.K. market………but that means it’s actually counterintuitive for RHD markets because we have retrained ourselves to accepting them being on the WRONG side.
Bosch and VW want to cater for those who can’t ditch their old driving ways……..eg, coasting which is a hangover from the old emissions test schedule. Nobody beats the RWD Tesla in efficiency.
Why are you showing how to disable the low speed "noise generator" ? It's hardly a hassle (a low hum). And it's not for the driver, it's for pedestrians. Jeez Grumpy, my first look at one of your videos, and you've already pissed me off. Bad form man, bad form.
@@grumpyoldmanandhisev So... it's a safety issue for kids, old folk and distracted people. It's a low hum (or music, 2 settings) up to 20km/h (?). It's not any hassle and we don't want to give any excuses to those who hate progress. For goodness sake everyone, leave it connected. P.S. Grumpy, it's also not illegal to park a petrol car in an electric charging bay... but we'd all prefer if people didn't. Legality has nothing to do with it.
@@stephenodonohue9876up to 35 km/h. But yes, "I'm doing A because it's legal" is a bad argument. If seatbelts are no longer mandatory, I'd still wear them.
The noise generator sound is awful. Not surprised people want to disable it...however you can change the sound to another more melodic sound..which is weird but does the job. Alternatively, there is also a loud horn to blast at any pedestrian daft enough to get in your way!......only joking!
Tesla VS BYD Daily Intelligence November 13, 2022 (Sunday)，North America time 1. Recently, a data company has counted the profit of a single car based on the financial reports of major automobile companies. The most, while Neo’s single car lost 15,000 US dollars, which also set the world’s largest single car loss. 2 my youtu..
Thanks so much for this very relevant review. I too live in Perth, WA. I own the extended version in the BYD 'white' which is actually more of a very light oyster grey colour. I was very pleasantly surprised by the colour on picking up the vehicle. Just don't expect a white car! It's light enough to repel a lot of heat in the summer which is my primary reason for always choosing white cars. The safety aspect of white over a darker grey is another important reason too, much as I love grey cars. Now I must say right up front, that I have never driven a Tesla of any description. I intend to take one for a test drive soon, but at this stage, the BYD is the only EV I have ever driven. I have driven some high end cars in my time including some European models renowned for comfort. Personally, I would rate the BYD Atto 3 as the best car I have ever driven. It astounds me every time I drive it, how well put together it is and the level of comfort as standard. The only two misgivings I have so far, are the standard tyres supplied with the car which I replaced with Continentals after a few hundred kMs. The Continentals grip much better so must elevate the safety aspect too. The other is the ride which I find too soft. This is my personal opinion. Some people may really like the ultra soft ride but I think it would be better if there was more damping of the suspension. Getting into our 2016 KIA Sportage GT-Line after driving the Atto 3 is a very noticeable difference in suspension firmness and control. I have very minor gripes with the Atto 3 and would give it a personal 8.5/10 if I was asked to rate it.
I think your rating of 8.5/10 is about right
Agreed Lou. I have a blue Atto 3 and live in Mandurah and though I've owned a few reasonably expensive mid luxury cars (plus the usual 20 odd dross ones), the Atto is simply the best all round car we've owned. Would still prefer the Ioniq 5 but at 65yo, I'm not going to play some silly lottery game every time Hyundai releases another 80-100 cars. Take my deposit Hyundai, and I'll wait the year.
I live in New Zealand and we have two Teslas, a BYD Atto 3 and an MG ZS EV. I don't regret buying any of them as they all have their pros and cons. Much as I like our MG ZS EV 2022, I think the Atto 3 is worth the extra NZ$6K that it cost me. The Atto 3 is just fine for doing the 470km trip to our holiday home without spending two much time charging. It is comfortable and efficient.
What's the range you get with atto 3? Is it the 60 kWh version?
@@maddyc503 I have the 60kWh battery version. It does seem efficient and I'd estimated between 350 to 400km.
@@DavidKent0407 great, thanks for the information.
Great to know thanks
Why do you have 4 EVs?
Your videos are earning good subscriber numbers G.O.M. Keep up the good work.
That’s a honest review. You can see your love for Tesla , and how hard it was to be positive about the BYD, so everything you have said is true🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 Thanks👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
thanks
The BYD satnav is the only reason for the speed warnings, it doesn't do it otherwise. Also I'm nearly 6'2" and I can still sit comfortably behind the driver seat comfortably.
Yeah I thought he must be like 7' to think there wasn't much room in the back lol
And Thank You, Sir! Excellent test drive. I did learn more with Your test drive - than I did in mine! Knowledgable man that friend of Yours. Thank You for both of You! It's good to have mates in Perth! Your opinions do matter to me. Anyway, my very own (test drive) went on a similar note. I do love the vibes and comfort of it. Greetings from Adelaide gentleman! Adam. Bye.
Thank you. If you are getting one then I dont think you are going to be disappointed
Really good and clean test drive video. Discusses all the necessary points. Thank you.
Thank you. I appreciate the positive feedback
Great video Grumpy - thank you
Thanks for you review. And in Perth too!
Good review thanks. After 7000+km on them in all except icy conditions I can confidently say that the only thing wrong with the standard Batman tyres is the name, they're actually a very good tyre. The problem (if we can call it a problem) is that at 1700kg the A3 is under-tyred with only 215s. For comparison Tesla's similar weight Mod Y runs on 255s, more appropriate to the weight. Having driven the A3 and the MY a fair bit the only advantage I see about the MY is that Tesla's Supercharger network, apart from that I think the A3 is a better all round car despite the price difference. Finally, if you put the A3 into dragstrip mode it does zero to 100 in 6.8, about the same as the standard range MY.
Very interesting thanks especially about the tyres as they are an unknown really here in Australia.
This will be our first EV. Test drove out uncle's one and liked it. Fingers crossed EVDirect needs improvement and hopefully the warranty and servicing isn't too painful....
I think that the positives in the car will outweight the negatives of EVD
Servicing; the 1st 12 months $189 $ then $390 2nd year, then 3rd year is $189 and so on every 12months. You pay a lot more for a service the. $189, twice a year, so I feel it’s cheap, yes people say what do you service, well I’m nor a mechanic but for $189 it doesn’t matter to me. 8 year warranty on battery. Toyota have just signed a deal with BYD to make build and deliver the new EV Corolla, Toyota would not sign away the worlds number one selling car most years to ‘any’ company🙏🏼😊😊
You won't be disappointed DC, love mine and yet to find something I'm disappointed with.
Thanks, good review
400km at 60km/h, many owners it seems are getting about 350km on a full battery but as with any car including ICE cars how you drive, weather conditions, topography, etc will determine range. Also has from memory 3.3kW for VTL system and only is limited to 10A due to the power board otherwise could do up to 16A.
Thanks for that
Hello, thanks for the review, I'm from India, BYD recently launched in India as well but unfortunately here it was launched at 66k Australian Dollars on road price making it into a premium category offering, but still have gone ahead and booked one, I really liked it, deliveries expected from Jan 2023, your review was a boosting factor for me to book 1..:)
I think the Indian import duty is responsible here
@@grumpyoldmanandhisev True
@@thrishulreddy6433 are you from Hyderabad?
@@voicevy3210 Yes
@@thrishulreddy6433 cool. did you test drive the car before booking
Best review so far I have watched!!
If you had test driven this and Tesla, would you buy this or Tesla still?
Many thanks. Honestly, despite the price hike, I am glad I got the Tesla. I did have an Atto 3 on order but it took so long that I got the Tesla first
@@grumpyoldmanandhisev I have both ready for delivery this month, don't like Tesla 3 for it's height being problem for ingress/egress, Tesla Y is great but $25k diff is where I am now thinking, whether is it better value for that price difference?
@@vivMak23 each to his own. This is why some people drive $150,000+ cars and some drive $25,000 cars
Interesting review thanks.
Funny, no comment on THAT interior design when you first hopped in? Or ever?
Very subjective I suppose....not important to some I suspect🙂.
It is easy to boil water in an electric kettle using the VTL
Yes the VTL can be very useful. We had an EV meet recently and the BYD owner brought along an electric BBQ and we had a sausage sizzle courtesy of the Atto 3 :-)
This was really, genuinely, almost comically helpful. BYD should give you a cut. Thank you!
I should be more grumpy maybe?!
Very informative, but please tell us your height. Also, it may be illegal to disable the noise maker, because the sound is to warn pedestrians of an oncoming vehicle.
I am 6ft tall. In Australia it is not a legal requirement to have an active pedestrian noise generator. Having been around Europe a fair bit recently even as a pedestrian its bloody annoying!
Price point
Which one do you prefer? MG ZS EV or BYD Atto 3?
Honestly the MG ZS EV even though it is based on an ICE platform has more going for it IMHO
@@grumpyoldmanandhisev thank you so much for the advise. My order for the blue MG ZS EV ESSENCE is coming in April. So excited.
@@Sikad4 Enjoy
I may have missed it but how tall are you Grumpy old man? Looking to get one of these when they come to the UK, if I fit (6f4 194cm)!
I am 6ft with severe arthritis in the spine from top to toe and have had many procedures (fusions etc) so my bedability is restricted.
Honestly couldn't care less about one pedal driving. I've driven with it and hated it. It's like driving on low gears on manual, not smooth at all.
Coasting/rolling is more efficient than regen braking, you're not losing anything by using brakes - they still regen until the car needs absolute stopping power. I can see numpties getting used to only using the gas pedal and smashing that in an emergency instead of brakes.
You just need to get used to it. Yes, its not for everyone but the majorityof people love it
Don't understand your nasty attitude about it - you don't have to use it. If people like it then so what? Let them. I've test driven a few with it and no big deal to me - I very quickly got used to it.
"You're not losing anything by using brakes... " - well obviously you're wearing out your brakes quicker. A new set of pads isn't always cheap. AND you're missing out on regen - not sure what you mean by: "they still regen until the car needs absolute stopping power" - ??
I've often thought it would be good to have it as part of the breaking system, as you apply the breaks it uses increasing levels of regenerative breaking, with physical breaks making up the last part.
@@ecurb10 pressing on the brakes in any ev is all regen to a certain point. It's the same as lifting the go pedal on Tesla's. Just because you don't have 1 pedal driving, doesn't mean you don't have regen. What I meant is I'd rather have full control of when the car regents rather than feathering the go pedal to keep the car coasting instead of going regen.
This 100%. Cruising is the best way to conserve energy.
Nice vid.
Thank you
please dont disable the noisemaker.
I wish the Chinese can bring their luxury EVs to the Australian market...
I wish they would bring a lot of EVs here especially cheaper ones to help the take up
@@grumpyoldmanandhisev Very true, however I think premium Chinese EVs are still cheap and have a much better value gap than similar quality premium EVs from the traditional brands. Also i think cheap EVs are still much more expensive than similar quality Gas engine cars.
Fancy indicators being on the RIGHT. I guess that’s for the U.K. market………but that means it’s actually counterintuitive for RHD markets because we have retrained ourselves to accepting them being on the WRONG side.
I could only watch 7 minutes lol I want to hear about the car not what a Tesla can and cant do zzz
No mention of the rip off servicing costs
Already covered that. This was a review of the car not EVD
@@grumpyoldmanandhisev It was a good review, if I was given the option I would go the updated MG ZS EV.
@@clayton4115 That is also a good reasonably priced EV. The thing I dont like about it is that it is still based on an ICE platform
Bosch and VW want to cater for those who can’t ditch their old driving ways……..eg, coasting which is a hangover from the old emissions test schedule.
Nobody beats the RWD Tesla in efficiency.
Thanks for telling everyone how to turn a safety feature off. High counter productive
Yes it appears to be a nice EV but I just cant get excited, my Tesla has heaps of excitement without even trying.
yeah its not 'exciting' but its not bad either. For people getting into an EV for the first time its certainly well worth it
tesla is overpriced. if that is not an issue, then a bugatti has way more excitement, doesn't it?
LOL Tesla is the most boring cars to look at. Just look like blobs of plastic with wheels
imo there's nothing exciting about a Tesla. A lot of useless features like fart noise n stuff.
"I wouldn't say it looks pretty. I wouldn't say it looks ugly." But I would say it looks like any other boring compact SUV.
Why are you showing how to disable the low speed "noise generator" ? It's hardly a hassle (a low hum). And it's not for the driver, it's for pedestrians. Jeez Grumpy, my first look at one of your videos, and you've already pissed me off. Bad form man, bad form.
most people are disabling it. its not a legal requirement in Australia.
@@grumpyoldmanandhisev So... it's a safety issue for kids, old folk and distracted people. It's a low hum (or music, 2 settings) up to 20km/h (?). It's not any hassle and we don't want to give any excuses to those who hate progress. For goodness sake everyone, leave it connected.
P.S. Grumpy, it's also not illegal to park a petrol car in an electric charging bay... but we'd all prefer if people didn't. Legality has nothing to do with it.
@@stephenodonohue9876up to 35 km/h. But yes, "I'm doing A because it's legal" is a bad argument. If seatbelts are no longer mandatory, I'd still wear them.
The noise generator sound is awful. Not surprised people want to disable it...however you can change the sound to another more melodic sound..which is weird but does the job. Alternatively, there is also a loud horn to blast at any pedestrian daft enough to get in your way!......only joking!
Tesla VS BYD Daily Intelligence
November 13, 2022 (Sunday)，North America time
1. Recently, a data company has counted the profit of a single car based on the financial reports of major automobile companies. The most, while Neo’s single car lost 15,000 US dollars, which also set the world’s largest single car loss. 2 my youtu..