As an owner of a Ferrari Specialè, I love taking my NC on the track, its such a hilarious car and so much fun. Ive got cams, throttle bodies, CAE shifter, GT1 suspension, the thing is such a blast. I love the steering on these too! I have an ND as well, but I always choose the NC.
@ it can be quite noisy (rattles) other than that it’s a small compromise for actual shift action and the sensations of tactility and fun. I wouldn’t revert, I have it on the ND as well! :)
Loved this video. I have an 07 with the 5 speed and the same coilovers and wheels. Simply a joy to drive. Got it for $13k with 35k miles a few years ago with the OEM hardtop (and soft top) and I am never getting rid of this thing!
also have to say, driving along ACH and stopping at newcomb’s is a whole different vibe than driving cars back to back in a 25mph zone around in the Oakland hills.
I've owned an na 1.8 for over a decade, and invested many dollars and hours into perfecting it. Got to admit, this video and a few others are making me want to start over again with an NC.
I've recently changed from a 1.8 NB to a 1.8 NC (european engine) and the difference is crazy, the weight difference is not noticeable after some Eibach springs on the NC too. I'd recommend :)
A next level upgrade is a 2.5 litre swap (without cams). The low end torque is so additive. Add a full Roadstersport 2.5 inch exhaust, HDR coil overs and wider rims/tires, in my case 225/45-17's, and you have a little beast. All in, $12,000 Canadian (with labour) upgrades! Super fun.
is there a big upgrade from the 2.0 to the 2.5L while keeping them NA ? I thought the whole point of the 2.5 swap was to put a cam or FI 🤔 I'm currently looking to buy an NC
I bought my stock 2008 NC that with only 33,000 original miles for $9000. I got a real bargain. Soon as I bought it I changed all the fluids, replaced the brake lines with braided stainless steel lines, replaced the plastic coolant reservoir with an aluminum unit and got a front end alignment. I thing I get a really good deal. I love driving this car.
Was the first guy's girlfriend around when you asked for total price with mods??? $4k of seats alone. Clean NC2 is $16k. So no way engine mods, suspension, exhaust, wheels, tires, brakes etc. were $5k. Prob getting closer to $30k with that list, which is a lot for a Miata.
@@Samurai6936I'm actually glad I caught this comment. I just bought a 2013 PRHT Club with only 19k original miles on it for $17k. So I'm +$4k ahead of you in starting cost. I'm planning a build similar in nature to yours but hoping to keep it at $25k total. I guess I'll just stick to stock seats for a while. Will be primarily a public road weapon, although I'd love to dabble in track sometime, so I might not get as serious as you on the suspension. Something good but I might try and find whatever the best I can get under $2k price point.
@@Samurai6936 can you shed some light for me on lsd’s in the NC2? I’m about to buy a 2011 grand touring 6 speed. Not sure what packages it has from factory, so I’m going to do a vin check with mazda corporate. Does it have the fuji lsd from factory? Thanks!
As someone that spent ~40k on my built turbo nc I can tell you it drives amazing, however I probably took it a little far for a street car. But the platform is superb
Great review, thank you. I wonder how this compares to a ND3 in regards to the driving experience. I currently have a ND1 and am considering either saving up to upgrade to a ND3, or getting a NC2 and mod it lightly.
Interesting, I thought the increased induction sound in NC2 is from the intake sound tube which routes from the airbox into the drivers sidewall (you can see it - the black plastic tube on the right side around 50 seconds in). I have a stock NC2.5, no cams and have the same great intake sound. The sound tube is added for nc2 and nc2.5 generations. It’s not a speaker - actually conveys the sound/vibration to the cabin.
How do the Xida’s compare to the MiesterR GT1s from the video when you compared all 4 generations? Similar dampening technology but the Xida have more travel. Also $3000 vs $2000.
@@jjchockey i have a friend that went w ohlins originally. but when he went to xidas, it was night and day different on the street because of the additional travel in both downtravel and droop. i suppose it’s less of an issue if you only track your car, but on poorly maintained canyon roads, it could be the difference between a blown out disc in your back and having a few extra years of canyon runs to look forward to. damping technology hasn’t changed much over the years, but the techniques at providing better damping as well as suspension system consistency have gotten cheaper. because of that there are some boutique brands that will customize your setup and maximize the one way setup. check out annex suspension for one. they use a combination of taiwanese parts like most of the other budget brands, but they also will listen to your track needs, consider motion ratio constraints of your platform and help you eek out the best compromise between ride and handling precision.
@ I had Miester R CRDs on an NB2 and now have XIDA on an NA8. The CRDs high speed dampening is quite similar to the Xida I found but the low speed dampening on the Xida is wayyyy more aggressive. I’m considering moving to an NC and was wondering how the GT1s would feel compared to those.
@@jjchockeythose GT1s are not good at taking bumps on track. Only thing they are good at is marketing. They aren’t bad on smooth roads though for the price point.
@you just said they are good at taking bumps for the price and they suck at taking bumps in the same sentence. Which one is it? I don’t know of any other $2000 coilovers that utilize a double digressive larger diameter piston so I feel like they should be quite good for the price. Not Xida level but not far off for $1000 less. I don’t have experience with the GT1s but the CRDs were better than the other $1000 Coilovers I’ve driven on the Miata.
I currently have my eye on this 2013 NC miata with 89k miles on it for 12k usd. Just wondering if that’s a good deal or not. This would be my first big purchase.
@hidan8292 yeah someone I know spent like close to $12k USD getting it done. Labour's costs add up and it's not like you just chuck a minivan engine and it's good. Glorious car now he's done the work to make it rev
@Zygrene Thank you, when you drive one I'd love to hear about how good of a drivers car it is, steering and shift feel specifically and compare it o a SS 1LE as both of those cars are being considered for purchase.
@@rodrigot.7179 lmao this comment was supposed to be on a celica video that I had up on another tab. I love the NC, its my favorite generation of miata
As an owner of a Ferrari Specialè, I love taking my NC on the track, its such a hilarious car and so much fun. Ive got cams, throttle bodies, CAE shifter, GT1 suspension, the thing is such a blast. I love the steering on these too! I have an ND as well, but I always choose the NC.
Wow cool insight, I’ve always wondered if there were super car owners that also owned a Miata
@ Certainly, many of us do. It’s incredibly fun and fantastic value for money, great and diverse community in the world of MX5s!
@@ShinySenpai How have you found the CAE shifter, do you think its worth it?
@ it can be quite noisy (rattles) other than that it’s a small compromise for actual shift action and the sensations of tactility and fun. I wouldn’t revert, I have it on the ND as well! :)
Would love to see more high vs low build comparisons! Incredibly helpful
Mx5 plays a big role in car enthusiasts world so much that everyone needs to go out and buy one 😂
I'll be getting one soon. I would also add that everyone should try a dirt bike for some offroading single track fun.
Loved this video. I have an 07 with the 5 speed and the same coilovers and wheels. Simply a joy to drive. Got it for $13k with 35k miles a few years ago with the OEM hardtop (and soft top) and I am never getting rid of this thing!
also have to say, driving along ACH and stopping at newcomb’s is a whole different vibe than driving cars back to back in a 25mph zone around in the Oakland hills.
I've owned an na 1.8 for over a decade, and invested many dollars and hours into perfecting it. Got to admit, this video and a few others are making me want to start over again with an NC.
I've recently changed from a 1.8 NB to a 1.8 NC (european engine) and the difference is crazy, the weight difference is not noticeable after some Eibach springs on the NC too. I'd recommend :)
Swapping a 2.5 with cams into one makes it so, so good also. Make about 200 whp.
Great video concept, I always wondered how different the NCs were
A next level upgrade is a 2.5 litre swap (without cams). The low end torque is so additive. Add a full Roadstersport 2.5 inch exhaust, HDR coil overs and wider rims/tires, in my case 225/45-17's, and you have a little beast. All in, $12,000 Canadian (with labour) upgrades! Super fun.
is there a big upgrade from the 2.0 to the 2.5L while keeping them NA ? I thought the whole point of the 2.5 swap was to put a cam or FI 🤔
I'm currently looking to buy an NC
Would be nice to see a comparison of just stock lower priced NC1 vs higher priced stock NC2 or 3. Modified cars are kind of difficult to compare.
The best NC you find for sub $15K plus a high revving 2.4 Scalpel engine is absolutely the way to go with these! The NC is a phenomenal platform.
Thanks for this, currently working on building an nc
I bought my stock 2008 NC that with only 33,000 original miles for $9000. I got a real bargain. Soon as I bought it I changed all the fluids, replaced the brake lines with braided stainless steel lines, replaced the plastic coolant reservoir with an aluminum unit and got a front end alignment. I thing I get a really good deal. I love driving this car.
Luv my track-modded 2.5 NC!!! 👍😊👊💥
Was the first guy's girlfriend around when you asked for total price with mods??? $4k of seats alone. Clean NC2 is $16k. So no way engine mods, suspension, exhaust, wheels, tires, brakes etc. were $5k. Prob getting closer to $30k with that list, which is a lot for a Miata.
I got the car for you 13k. Dropped about another 12 - 13k into it.
@@Samurai6936I'm actually glad I caught this comment. I just bought a 2013 PRHT Club with only 19k original miles on it for $17k. So I'm +$4k ahead of you in starting cost. I'm planning a build similar in nature to yours but hoping to keep it at $25k total. I guess I'll just stick to stock seats for a while.
Will be primarily a public road weapon, although I'd love to dabble in track sometime, so I might not get as serious as you on the suspension. Something good but I might try and find whatever the best I can get under $2k price point.
@@Samurai6936 can you shed some light for me on lsd’s in the NC2? I’m about to buy a 2011 grand touring 6 speed. Not sure what packages it has from factory, so I’m going to do a vin check with mazda corporate. Does it have the fuji lsd from factory? Thanks!
@@daviddapra4028 If its a GT it'll come with an lsd and 6 speed. I went aftermarket cause my pumpkin exploded so I figured I'd might as well.
As someone that spent ~40k on my built turbo nc I can tell you it drives amazing, however I probably took it a little far for a street car. But the platform is superb
Great review, thank you. I wonder how this compares to a ND3 in regards to the driving experience. I currently have a ND1 and am considering either saving up to upgrade to a ND3, or getting a NC2 and mod it lightly.
Another great comparison video would be Miata to Fiat 124 Spider :-)
Interesting, I thought the increased induction sound in NC2 is from the intake sound tube which routes from the airbox into the drivers sidewall (you can see it - the black plastic tube on the right side around 50 seconds in). I have a stock NC2.5, no cams and have the same great intake sound. The sound tube is added for nc2 and nc2.5 generations. It’s not a speaker - actually conveys the sound/vibration to the cabin.
Love it!
You can someshat see the difference between suspensions at soaking up the small bumps in th3 shakiness of the camera.
Waiting for 2.5 nc review
It's such an awasome upgrade. I wish this on all MX5 owners. Its perfect for the street!
Then there is a world of power mods from 2.5 swaps, to turbos and superchargers like the BBR kits, to K-swaps.
Damn, the tread on the tires of the NC2 looks pretty low. I may just be ignorant, but they look almost like F1 rain slicks.
Do we have IG accounts for the two owners?
do a reveiw of the citroen
How do the Xida’s compare to the MiesterR GT1s from the video when you compared all 4 generations? Similar dampening technology but the Xida have more travel. Also $3000 vs $2000.
@@jjchockey I thought about this exact question recently. Would need to drive them on the same road. Both were very impressive.
@@jjchockey i have a friend that went w ohlins originally. but when he went to xidas, it was night and day different on the street because of the additional travel in both downtravel and droop. i suppose it’s less of an issue if you only track your car, but on poorly maintained canyon roads, it could be the difference between a blown out disc in your back and having a few extra years of canyon runs to look forward to.
damping technology hasn’t changed much over the years, but the techniques at providing better damping as well as suspension system consistency have gotten cheaper. because of that there are some boutique brands that will customize your setup and maximize the one way setup. check out annex suspension for one. they use a combination of taiwanese parts like most of the other budget brands, but they also will listen to your track needs, consider motion ratio constraints of your platform and help you eek out the best compromise between ride and handling precision.
@ I had Miester R CRDs on an NB2 and now have XIDA on an NA8. The CRDs high speed dampening is quite similar to the Xida I found but the low speed dampening on the Xida is wayyyy more aggressive. I’m considering moving to an NC and was wondering how the GT1s would feel compared to those.
@@jjchockeythose GT1s are not good at taking bumps on track. Only thing they are good at is marketing. They aren’t bad on smooth roads though for the price point.
@you just said they are good at taking bumps for the price and they suck at taking bumps in the same sentence. Which one is it? I don’t know of any other $2000 coilovers that utilize a double digressive larger diameter piston so I feel like they should be quite good for the price. Not Xida level but not far off for $1000 less. I don’t have experience with the GT1s but the CRDs were better than the other $1000 Coilovers I’ve driven on the Miata.
So if you had 15k - 20k for a street/track car, how would you spend the money? What's the sweet spot to get the best bang for the buck?
Is the autoexe induction box also contributed to the induction noise? Is that the one with the carbon cover?
That Miata might cost 25K including mods, but that's definitely not how much that car is worth. It's worth maybe half that.
Just like all heavily modified cars. You'll never get your money out of it when selling.
Can you please ask where he got his phone holder? Looks nice.
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I currently have my eye on this 2013 NC miata with 89k miles on it for 12k usd. Just wondering if that’s a good deal or not. This would be my first big purchase.
Why in the world would you swap an NC2 engine into an NC1... Might as well swap in a cammed 2.5 into it for WAAAY less money.
Previous owner blew the engine and just found a replacement.
I think you're underestimating how expensive the 2.5 swap is.
@@christopherjohnston6343 definitely not underestimating how much a 2.5 costs. The engine itself is about 1/3 the cost of a 2.0.
@@christopherjohnston6343correct. I just did about a month ago, and shit adds up 💀
@hidan8292 yeah someone I know spent like close to $12k USD getting it done. Labour's costs add up and it's not like you just chuck a minivan engine and it's good. Glorious car now he's done the work to make it rev
Random, but could you source a C7 grandsport and Z06 for the channel, i couldn't find any of your reviews on them.
@@masterkendro I haven't driven either but really want to. Especially the C7 GS. Owners - please reach out!
@Zygrene Thank you, when you drive one I'd love to hear about how good of a drivers car it is, steering and shift feel specifically and compare it o a SS 1LE as both of those cars are being considered for purchase.
Yes. That would be a very good comparo.
never drive with cracked windscreen !!!
its a pretty cool, albeit absolutely hideous car.
That's just like, your opinion, man
@@rodrigot.7179 lmao this comment was supposed to be on a celica video that I had up on another tab.
I love the NC, its my favorite generation of miata
Why is it that there are so many ratted-out Miatas? Seems like that's all I see out in the real world.
NC2 > nd2/3
As someone looking to buy an nd explain why you think this
Spend that $ on a c5 or c6 and be done with it.
Agreed. Toss some coilover & tires and you are set
@@pab3783 very different cars but you make a good point. I need to get a C5/6 on the channel.
@Zygrene also a c7 please grand sport and z06, i was looking for a review by you on them and to my suprise you don't have one.
@masterkendro TheTopher just posted a nice review of a C7 Z06. That car looked like an absolute beast.
@@Zygrenedifferent indeed. I’ve owned both and the Corvette is it.
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