Yessir! Always appreciate the informative and useful Raven content man! I've been trying to implement B44 more as a wall combo ender but have using BT D4 which hits if they try to roll but BT f4 looks to be a wayyyyyyy better option haha. 😅 I can't say goodbye to BT D4 despite is launch punishable frames in this game. Keep up the great content man, 10K subs is on the horizon for you!
13:21 I’m a noob in Tekken, but it’s not a bug, it’s an untechable in my game. Usually it’s landing an attack on the same frame that person hits the ground. I don’t know if it’s the same in Tekken though, but if it takes even 1 frame to do anything like crouch, jump, block, etc then there’s nothing they can do about it, it’s just guaranteed. It’s most likely having to turn around that’s getting hit. It takes frames to turn around and between turning around and being able to block the move hits.
Thanks for the guides! I started with Lee as my main in T8 but after watching your videos made me switch to Raven lol uf4 is one of my favorite moves to use against players who love to duck but I just finish the string, didn't think to use the first hit for oki. That's gonna be a nice addition to my tool kit
Soulzone from crouch dash was such a helpful tip. So much of the time my opponent will just freeze up and either get hit or because they freeze up, be forced to block whatever SZ move I use
@@imortalXsoul That combo is so fun to do, do you use it in matches or is it too inconsinstent for you? When I don't sidestep enough the szn4 doesn't connect but it's 63 dmg, same as my regular combo so I'm gonna use your fancy one now.
@@imortalXsoul brother!!! soooo damn satisfying to pull off. The SSL SZ makes me feel like a pro. Any other way to land this variation aside from ws 3,2, or CH 236 1,2? Is there a way to land it off BT d3? I've tried many ways but to no avail!
Wow. I learned a whole lot here. This whole time i was never sure how to make use of his uf 4, 4 and b 4, 4. Also, im now realizing how important Okie really is and i often dont take it into consideration. This video has helped me a ton. Thanks a lot 🙏
@imortalXsoul 14:00 the reason it can’t be blocked is because the opponent is in FUFA recovery - when they do a backwards recovery it extends the amount of time their back is facing towards you (since they turn around while they stand up) and you can’t block while your back is turned. This is the same reason that Dragunov used to be able to launch you if you backrolled after his 1+2 grab. A POSSIBLE way to block is to directly hold down-back (or hold up and swap to down-back), since that recovers a bit quicker and doesn’t build as much space (which might cause the SZ4 to be more minus on block also) - although that also turns the back for a bit, so it may still be not enough time to block. This also all applies to FDFT recovery, which has the same back-facing recovery animation.
@@imortalXsoul I watched your Master Raven guides and when I saw Raven announced I just knew your Raven info and guides would be top tier 🔥 Keep em coming
I've been questioning oki options for Raven (I usually just do d3 but that whiffs on techrolls) and no guide out there covers it as well as yours. This also goes for the other guides and I think I've been spoiled by how in-depth your guides are for learning Raven that when I wanted to learn other characters, I have a hard time since there is no guide that is as in-depth on other characters as yours is. Thank you
Haze seems to be using a very different Oki set up at the wall. He would do the spike into "safe" slide or spike into wall splat mix up. very effective.
I found that it’s inconsistent and also depends on character regarding how safe the slide actually is but still a nice set up regardless. You can’t set up a safe slide at the wall. It’s qcf1 sz 4 and it can be -12
@@imortalXsoul Lol 😂 Bro it’s always a great day when you upload!! Because of you I’m gonna start doing f2,3 into oki wayyy more! As you’ve shown in your vid the options are practically endless 🔥‼️
Quick question, if they block the soulzone slide on wakeup consistently is there another option to deal with this. Being minus 9 in someones face basically ends your turn on wakeup but i didint see any ither way to deal with this. Loving the content! Looking forward to more!
It depends on where you are on the stage, usually SZ 2 will not hit, you can use SZ white hole to continue pressure. The purpose of the -9 slide is to bait a punish. Usually players will try to launch it or try something -12/13 for example, which are usually either duck launchable or straight up punishable
Yo what's Imortal ! I recently got my first arcade stick. It's a used Mayflash F300 and it's pretty good for its price. But to use it on my PS5 it needs an adaptor. Do you think it's worth it for Tekken 8? Especially for characters like Raven, Victor, and some Mishimas...
Thanks alot for your effort! I don't want to be negative in anyway, but as a beginner its a bit hard for me to follow. The move list on the left is pretty rough to follow, is it possible to have it in the middle of the screen? If not i understand and thanks again for your effort in the videos!
@@emiliano3873 combo videos have those, i photoshopped custom notation in for my combo videos but this is a guide not a combo vid. Also they take literally 5 hours + for one vid lol
Just picked up raven when you get the backturn slide bb3+4 but you do it from a far range and dont go through your opponent and stay in front can you get a combo still? (sorry if thats confusing)
Next time do you think you could give a brief description of what the term means? Especially on how you perceive, just to have a better understanding throughout the video.
@@imortalXsoul yo Speakin on the BT F, F, 3+4 combo that gives u a auto slide 4 I couldnt get the timing..the cpu kept blocking it but what did come out and is the 3 and then i started doin 3,2 Wonder if this is legit tho it does come out faster than the subzero slide a bit....
I played him online got him to garyu but compared to the other characters like jin that can pretty much do any and everything and be safe raven lacks everything his back turn is a complete joke i wish they give him back his haze instead of soul zone that opponents can just poke you outta it felt like harada didn't like him cause he buff paul who didn't need the buff even steve got buff beside making aqua spider easier that's it that's all they did with him.
Yessir! Always appreciate the informative and useful Raven content man! I've been trying to implement B44 more as a wall combo ender but have using BT D4 which hits if they try to roll but BT f4 looks to be a wayyyyyyy better option haha. 😅 I can't say goodbye to BT D4 despite is launch punishable frames in this game. Keep up the great content man, 10K subs is on the horizon for you!
Thanks bro! Patiently waiting for it!!!
The one we were all waiting for
👀
13:21 I’m a noob in Tekken, but it’s not a bug, it’s an untechable in my game. Usually it’s landing an attack on the same frame that person hits the ground. I don’t know if it’s the same in Tekken though, but if it takes even 1 frame to do anything like crouch, jump, block, etc then there’s nothing they can do about it, it’s just guaranteed.
It’s most likely having to turn around that’s getting hit. It takes frames to turn around and between turning around and being able to block the move hits.
9:01 That's true, I've done this too and the opponent didn't know what to do.
🤣🤣🤣 it’s really cheap
I’m having so much trouble learning this character 😭 thank you for helping
Thanks for the guides! I started with Lee as my main in T8 but after watching your videos made me switch to Raven lol
uf4 is one of my favorite moves to use against players who love to duck but I just finish the string, didn't think to use the first hit for oki. That's gonna be a nice addition to my tool kit
its so good for oki, been using it since T7 but less cos the move was nerfed a bit regarding whiff recovery LMAO
Soulzone from crouch dash was such a helpful tip. So much of the time my opponent will just freeze up and either get hit or because they freeze up, be forced to block whatever SZ move I use
@@siyoiii7709 yea it’s mad good
11:07, what a combo!!! You never cease to impress. As Always thanks for the info!
thanks bro!!
@@imortalXsoul That combo is so fun to do, do you use it in matches or is it too inconsinstent for you? When I don't sidestep enough the szn4 doesn't connect but it's 63 dmg, same as my regular combo so I'm gonna use your fancy one now.
@@imb__ yeah i use it in matches, it’s not too difficult once you get the ssl sz 1+2 down
@@imortalXsoul brother!!! soooo damn satisfying to pull off. The SSL SZ makes me feel like a pro.
Any other way to land this variation aside from ws 3,2, or CH 236 1,2?
Is there a way to land it off BT d3? I've tried many ways but to no avail!
Really, really good video man, big thanks
thanks for watching bro 🙏🏽
Thank you for giving us the oki guide!
thanks for watching! :D
Wow. I learned a whole lot here. This whole time i was never sure how to make use of his uf 4, 4 and b 4, 4. Also, im now realizing how important Okie really is and i often dont take it into consideration. This video has helped me a ton. Thanks a lot 🙏
thanks for watching gang!
@@imortalXsoul yessirrr
@imortalXsoul 14:00 the reason it can’t be blocked is because the opponent is in FUFA recovery - when they do a backwards recovery it extends the amount of time their back is facing towards you (since they turn around while they stand up) and you can’t block while your back is turned. This is the same reason that Dragunov used to be able to launch you if you backrolled after his 1+2 grab.
A POSSIBLE way to block is to directly hold down-back (or hold up and swap to down-back), since that recovers a bit quicker and doesn’t build as much space (which might cause the SZ4 to be more minus on block also) - although that also turns the back for a bit, so it may still be not enough time to block.
This also all applies to FDFT recovery, which has the same back-facing recovery animation.
Nice, yes it's very good for oki :D
Amazing video as always
thanks gang!
@@imortalXsoul I watched your Master Raven guides and when I saw Raven announced I just knew your Raven info and guides would be top tier 🔥 Keep em coming
These vids are a godsend
thank you :D
I've been questioning oki options for Raven (I usually just do d3 but that whiffs on techrolls) and no guide out there covers it as well as yours. This also goes for the other guides and I think I've been spoiled by how in-depth your guides are for learning Raven that when I wanted to learn other characters, I have a hard time since there is no guide that is as in-depth on other characters as yours is. Thank you
Thank you!
Haze seems to be using a very different Oki set up at the wall. He would do the spike into "safe" slide or spike into wall splat mix up. very effective.
I found that it’s inconsistent and also depends on character regarding how safe the slide actually is but still a nice set up regardless. You can’t set up a safe slide at the wall. It’s qcf1 sz 4 and it can be -12
@@imortalXsoulThanks for the information.
Another home run and I'm still looking for that ball, i am a Raven main and this vid is very helpful. Great source of Raven info, love it!!!!!
much love, thank you!
Been waiting for this one 😊
Was waiting for this one. Thank you! 🙏🏼
preciate that fam!
BT slide is one my fav moves , def gonna mess around with the spacing. Thanks for the lessons bro.
no probs bro!
🗣️BABE WAKE UP!! SOUL UPLOADED AGAIN!!
LMFAOOOOOOO
@@imortalXsoul Lol 😂 Bro it’s always a great day when you upload!! Because of you I’m gonna start doing f2,3 into oki wayyy more! As you’ve shown in your vid the options are practically endless 🔥‼️
@@YungKuroKami Its REALLY good bro
@@imortalXsoul Nah FR!!!!
damn those mixups are insaneand cool combo btw help me very well in the video for the okis ^^
thanks for watching 😁😁😁
Kinda hadn’t thought about using BT dashing, gonna have to try that out
very effective
I actually made it to fujin with all these vids. Very nice job👌
BIG W!!
Love it bro!
ty!
LONG AWAITED
ong
I'm gonna apply this.
Let me know how the strats work!
@imortalXsoul will do bro thanks a lot.
Hey @imortalxsoul,
Thx for the okazumi guide. Quick question, how do you counter people down jabbing Raven's mixups?
bt 4
So much doomposting about Raven right now makes your enthusiasm always such a breath of fresh air. Reminds us why we all love this character.
He’s still trash!!! 🌚 I still love Raven, he’s too cool to ever drop, but I do hope they give him some love in June 🥷🏿
7:40 How do you get the f23 to hit after the sz1+2? I always manage to only hit the 2nd hit with it
I'm not using the exact same combo though
ty
Quick question, if they block the soulzone slide on wakeup consistently is there another option to deal with this. Being minus 9 in someones face basically ends your turn on wakeup but i didint see any ither way to deal with this. Loving the content! Looking forward to more!
It depends on where you are on the stage, usually SZ 2 will not hit, you can use SZ white hole to continue pressure. The purpose of the -9 slide is to bait a punish. Usually players will try to launch it or try something -12/13 for example, which are usually either duck launchable or straight up punishable
Thanks for showing the alternative combo for the -> 2 3 slide ender , first one had me losing my mind. How do you get the quarter circle 1 2 in ??
just timing man no secret or trick!
Sick
ty!
What to do after full crouch sweep hits and opponent rolls forward to avoid oki? Lovely video 🎉
White hole transitions
Yo what's Imortal !
I recently got my first arcade stick. It's a used Mayflash F300 and it's pretty good for its price. But to use it on my PS5 it needs an adaptor. Do you think it's worth it for Tekken 8? Especially for characters like Raven, Victor, and some Mishimas...
Mishimas yes, Raven no. But peripheral is personal preference!
Thanks alot for your effort! I don't want to be negative in anyway, but as a beginner its a bit hard for me to follow. The move list on the left is pretty rough to follow, is it possible to have it in the middle of the screen? If not i understand and thanks again for your effort in the videos!
Unfortunately they don’t give us the option to move stuff around. We’ve been asking for command history to be reverted back to Tekken 7 layout 😅😅😅
@@imortalXsouli seen another video where those commands where in the middle of the screen or do they like photo shop that in?
@@emiliano3873 combo videos have those, i photoshopped custom notation in for my combo videos but this is a guide not a combo vid. Also they take literally 5 hours + for one vid lol
@@imortalXsoul oh wauw thanks for the answers!
This is pretty advanced. I'm not 100% getting it yet.
🤟🏿
Any tips for getting the f2,3 after soulzone 1+2 combo ender? Always seem to get ff2
dash f23 not ff23 - ff f23 is a better way of describing it
How do you get the f2 3 after SZ 1+2?
No inputs??
What are some options on block with B44 ? Since it make u plus 1 on block BT.
bt g clef (bt 22/bt 221) is the only option that actually frame traps. Everything else can be mashed out of
Just picked up raven when you get the backturn slide bb3+4 but you do it from a far range and dont go through your opponent and stay in front can you get a combo still? (sorry if thats confusing)
yes, ff4 or db2
Is this f2 3 oki only viable if they back roll or tech roll. I have the cpu on guard all and it's blocking sz4 at -14
Both, you're probably timing it wrong. The further away the f23 hits, the more safe it is
Next time do you think you could give a brief description of what the term means? Especially on how you perceive, just to have a better understanding throughout the video.
Please and thank you!!!
Oki literally means when you attack (mix) your opponent when they are getting up! That’s the definition
@@imortalXsoul I appreciate you! Thank you. You help my raven play so much!
big fakkin W
does the wall oki work even if they do a mid or low kick from ground?
yes, they don't have frames to do anything after it
thanks bro, all the raven content from you helped me improve as a player, I got 9th place on my locals with 80+ players
@@MinusC24 damn good stuff man!!
Can someone link me to the raven clan discord i cannot find it on tekken r/
Wats g clef
In Raven’s case: BT 2,2,1. G-clef denotes a string where if the first hit is a counter hit the rest of the string cannot be blocked.
124 or BT 221
@@imortalXsoul ty
@@imortalXsoul yo
Speakin on the BT F, F, 3+4 combo that gives u a auto slide 4
I couldnt get the timing..the cpu kept blocking it but what did come out and is the 3 and then i started doin 3,2
Wonder if this is legit tho it does come out faster than the subzero slide a bit....
@@finnz7786 My cpu also block the szn4 with -14f for me, wonder what I'm doing wrong
I played him online got him to garyu but compared to the other characters like jin that can pretty much do any and everything and be safe raven lacks everything his back turn is a complete joke i wish they give him back his haze instead of soul zone that opponents can just poke you outta it felt like harada didn't like him cause he buff paul who didn't need the buff even steve got buff beside making aqua spider easier that's it that's all they did with him.
i think SZ could be great if they added movement options from it like haze