So here's a funny thing i discovered : In the paragon Spacea fight, if your pokemon has fainted the turn a shield breaks, she will not be able to steal your mons and will keep any negative effects she currently has (Except for the last shield)
@@ricardocordero263 Araquanid EVS: HP 252/ SPDEF 252 Moves: Mirror Coat Ability: Water Absorb I don’t remember the Suicune set but that’s interchangeable with anything that can tank a Spacial Rend, set up on the special side and has recovery of some sort The biggest problem I’d have is that I wouldn’t be able to one shot Spacea with any of my mons without a turn of set up (I hadn’t realised how stupidly good Curse + Toxic was for these fights) but I couldn’t set up properly because Spacea steals your Mon every time you knock out a shield. I knew that Araquanid could live 1 Spacial Rend quite easily and could KO with Mirror Coat, but it would then always set up Sticky Web against me when it was stolen, or hit hard with Water Bubble Liquidation. So I eventually realised: ‘I don’t actually use any mother moves besides Mirror Coat, so what if I just gave it Mirror Coat as it’s only move and ignore it when it get stolen?’ This gave me ample time to set up Calm Mind with Suicune, until Spacea started spamming Surf, which is when I switched the ability to Water Absorb to improve the longevity of Araquanid. Thus, my Spacea cheese was born. It’s not the best but it does allow for a variety of different set up strategies
I like to think that the paragon route would be impossible without the renegade route and vice versa (maybe EoN gathers energy from every use and the items passed between)
Basically, the Paragon Route sees the Broken Timeline after the events seen in the Renegade Route's Broken Timeline? This is pretty confusing. I do wonder if there are other beings like Spacea and Tiempa...
A strat I used for Paragon Spacea was to toxic her then make sure the mon I had out when it ticked down for the first health bar was a Beheeyem with Telepathy, Rest, Protect, and no attacking moves. He couldn't do anything to me, and Spacea couldn't accidentally kill him with Surf. As long as she already has a stolen mon on her side she can't take any more.
Okay, so if I get this complicated story right, it is... Her Majesty / Creator = Aldrest's mother and scientist behind The Core (? - not sure of this one) The Core = Garufa Inc.'s invention to reset the world to anything close to its former balance after betraying Arceus, which includes attributing humans with the Archetype and the power of certain legendary Pokémon Overseers = Spacea and Tiempa Keepers of balance between life and death = Nimiyera (Xerneas host), Vitus (Yveltal host) and the mystery Zygarde host Karma = The mystery eye that controls the "narrative of the world", allowing or not allowing things based on a sort of merit system that alludes to how Karma is believed to work as in asian religion; might have something to do with Nim imo Interceptor = A special inhabitant of the world, chosen to have special access credentials to important Garufan tools such as Zeight and The Core itself the ensure success with the recycles Archetype = Arceus remnants and the key to power up The Core mainly, currently split by Vitus' children (Erin, Melia, Alice and Allan).
To m2, the point was probably to take them off guard/by surprise after beating them to make them lose their dignity/resolve before dying, instead overwhelming their senses and making them feel vulnerable.
SPOILER FOR CHAPTER 15: Be very mean against everyone and then you can choose for it in chapter 15 (you need a karma value of 0 or lower) and when you are in the protagonist nightmare realm you will see a weird cube. Interact with it once and it will move locations to a further point in the protagonists nightmare realm eventually you will get a secret entrance. Kieren and Clear will then appear in front of you to tell you to join them or to stay with your friends.
There is a password that will allow you to skip east gearen city and blacksteeple castle and you will start at Terajuma. This will start you with 0 karma points since you basically skipped the entire thing and no good karma was collected
SO BASICALLY BE RUDE TO EVERYONE (NO FRIENDSHIP ALLOWED) DONT SAVE PEOPLE GRAB BOOK AND DONT SHOW LET THE PERSON IN HIDDEN LIBRARY DIE GRAB BOOK AND DONT SHOW P2 LET SOME DUDE DIE IDK WHO and there you have it! renegade
@@guillaumelassus9307 OHHHH WAIT that's the interceptium-z????? i always thought it would still have the old moves that were pretty mediocre. but anyway, thank you!
Spacea: Uses the power of Space to steal your Pokemon
Tiempa: Uses the power of Time to spam revive
For anyone who is curious, yes the Tera Battle scene is meant to take forever.
Melia/M2 taking her sweet time to draw Spacea/Tiempa terror/distress as long as she can before finishing them off
I literally pity Tiempa more than Spacea.
I will never view Tera Raids the same way again after watching this.
So here's a funny thing i discovered :
In the paragon Spacea fight, if your pokemon has fainted the turn a shield breaks, she will not be able to steal your mons and will keep any negative effects she currently has (Except for the last shield)
🎉yeah used that to my advantage against her
yeah i kinda abused poison stalling with that :P
In the paragon spacea fight, if she steals a pokemon holding a black prism she just can't attack until your pokemon faints
@@stardust1781 Yea Black Prisms are their kryptonite it seems.
@@vince5456 except IT was just a game bug lmao
23:12 unexpected Tera raid reference!
Cheesing Paragon Spacea with an Araquanid and Suicune was very satisfying to figure out
Okay now im curious. How?
@@ricardocordero263
Araquanid
EVS: HP 252/ SPDEF 252
Moves: Mirror Coat
Ability: Water Absorb
I don’t remember the Suicune set but that’s interchangeable with anything that can tank a Spacial Rend, set up on the special side and has recovery of some sort
The biggest problem I’d have is that I wouldn’t be able to one shot Spacea with any of my mons without a turn of set up (I hadn’t realised how stupidly good Curse + Toxic was for these fights) but I couldn’t set up properly because Spacea steals your Mon every time you knock out a shield. I knew that Araquanid could live 1 Spacial Rend quite easily and could KO with Mirror Coat, but it would then always set up Sticky Web against me when it was stolen, or hit hard with Water Bubble Liquidation. So I eventually realised: ‘I don’t actually use any mother moves besides Mirror Coat, so what if I just gave it Mirror Coat as it’s only move and ignore it when it get stolen?’ This gave me ample time to set up Calm Mind with Suicune, until Spacea started spamming Surf, which is when I switched the ability to Water Absorb to improve the longevity of Araquanid.
Thus, my Spacea cheese was born. It’s not the best but it does allow for a variety of different set up strategies
I love that pink Phione. So cute!
I like to think that the paragon route would be impossible without the renegade route and vice versa (maybe EoN gathers energy from every use and the items passed between)
Yeah, the routes are basically parallel
Basically, the Paragon Route sees the Broken Timeline after the events seen in the Renegade Route's Broken Timeline? This is pretty confusing.
I do wonder if there are other beings like Spacea and Tiempa...
There ,they are 2 of the 18 souls meant to monitor the world post reset one was adrest,3 of them have fused with the kalos legends trio
The paragon route and renegade happen at the same time you give the renegade you end of night and they give you the red chain
@azeria1 why is this the case though? There has to be some bigger foreshadowing for thus
Man i swear M2 scenes are like danganronpa ones whenever killing someone, a fever dream
A strat I used for Paragon Spacea was to toxic her then make sure the mon I had out when it ticked down for the first health bar was a Beheeyem with Telepathy, Rest, Protect, and no attacking moves. He couldn't do anything to me, and Spacea couldn't accidentally kill him with Surf. As long as she already has a stolen mon on her side she can't take any more.
Does anybody know if the history of the game IS finished???
omg dred i am your biggest fan !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Okay, so if I get this complicated story right, it is...
Her Majesty / Creator = Aldrest's mother and scientist behind The Core (? - not sure of this one)
The Core = Garufa Inc.'s invention to reset the world to anything close to its former balance after betraying Arceus, which includes attributing humans with the Archetype and the power of certain legendary Pokémon
Overseers = Spacea and Tiempa
Keepers of balance between life and death = Nimiyera (Xerneas host), Vitus (Yveltal host) and the mystery Zygarde host
Karma = The mystery eye that controls the "narrative of the world", allowing or not allowing things based on a sort of merit system that alludes to how Karma is believed to work as in asian religion; might have something to do with Nim imo
Interceptor = A special inhabitant of the world, chosen to have special access credentials to important Garufan tools such as Zeight and The Core itself the ensure success with the recycles
Archetype = Arceus remnants and the key to power up The Core mainly, currently split by Vitus' children (Erin, Melia, Alice and Allan).
why is the torment not expiring for you in Renegade? For me it always expires after some turns with the same exact set-up
Older patch
I wanted to see the kill option since I also chose the explodey wodey option.
How is your shivally changing types during battle mine doesn't do that
new world field
What is the music when you fight origin palkia or dialga the final part of the fight?
It's a Lavender town remix
So the real Name of Spacea and tiempa Are Stella And Trinity?
The original people (Similar to the protagonists) were, yes.
Anyway....
an execution alla Terastal raid
So Unexpected
To m2, the point was probably to take them off guard/by surprise after beating them to make them lose their dignity/resolve before dying, instead overwhelming their senses and making them feel vulnerable.
dred gaming
So... Is Renagade Route worth playing?
Yes
yup if u don't like the other characters/ tired of them betraying you or u wanna be a bad guy
Yeah, lore from both routes play into each other.
Wait when and how do u battle them
Wait then... how do i unlock Renegade route? I know I did Paragon
SPOILER FOR CHAPTER 15:
Be very mean against everyone and then you can choose for it in chapter 15 (you need a karma value of 0 or lower) and when you are in the protagonist nightmare realm you will see a weird cube. Interact with it once and it will move locations to a further point in the protagonists nightmare realm eventually you will get a secret entrance. Kieren and Clear will then appear in front of you to tell you to join them or to stay with your friends.
There is a password that will allow you to skip east gearen city and blacksteeple castle and you will start at Terajuma. This will start you with 0 karma points since you basically skipped the entire thing and no good karma was collected
@@daanvanhoeven4692 you dont need to be mean to anyone you just have to make all the bad choices which you will start seeing at terajuma
SO BASICALLY
BE RUDE TO EVERYONE (NO FRIENDSHIP ALLOWED)
DONT SAVE PEOPLE
GRAB BOOK AND DONT SHOW
LET THE PERSON IN HIDDEN LIBRARY DIE
GRAB BOOK AND DONT SHOW P2
LET SOME DUDE DIE IDK WHO
and there you have it! renegade
how do you get that z-stone that lets you use those special moves garchomp used?
Obtained automatically in the school of nightmares in the final battle against the puppet master
@@guillaumelassus9307 OHHHH WAIT that's the interceptium-z????? i always thought it would still have the old moves that were pretty mediocre. but anyway, thank you!
@@ctrlsaturn could be wrong, but i think the one used in this video is exclusive to renegade route
@@axiomwaltz i have save files of both routes so thanks for the tip