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Even a MacBook Pro's battery will drain in its sleep if you run Windows in a virtual machine. The hardware isn't the problem; it's the Windows operating system.
The only software I’ve needed to buy for my Mac was a $12 window management tool now made redundant by the latest OS. I can also run Linux and Windows on it should I want to. Battery life? I have an M2 Mini Pro and my phone for when I’m mobile and plan on getting an iPad for longer trips. I’m through with Windows.
@@polishtheday Good call. With Windows 11 24H2 comes nonstop monitoring by Microsoft Recall. This will lead to unintended violation of non-disclosure agreements and disclosure of intellectual property (both yours and customers).
@@meeladalsulaiman9193 in multicore m4 cant beat AMD or intel in actual 3d rendering and multiple timeline editing with effects several highly serious production tasks cant be done by m4
Also, don’t forget you’re comparing with a M1 why don’t you try to compare with a M4 max RAV4 pro I think you’ll see that the windows machine just can’t
@@Techdeck758Probably you dont factor in price. Why not compare against supercomputers? It blew away M4 like kid calculator. M4 over priced and severely lacking apps. Even Microsoft 365 on Windows is so much more features than the version on Mac. Keynotes and Numbers are near joke when you know PowerPoint and Excel. Then Premier also functional pretty blew away M4 as well unless you fork out like extra 2-3K usd. If that is the case, might as well compare to desktop fully decked with that kind of budget?
Bro just think logically he compared 1 generation products from each platform that's. And he can do only what he have 😅 He may not have any m4 Mac portables platform products so he didn't. I think you're the one who is annoyed. He mentioned it in video too 😂.
same the issues that you mention with mac are what keep me from buying a mac book and also an iphone. being able to do anything you want with your device and not having to pay for every other software is such a cool thing on windows
Huh? Macbooks come with more software installed (or free) than windows (keynote, imovie, numbers, pages, preview, garageband) and tons of open source stuff to install. Totally agree on being able to do anything you want, for example repairing it yourself. Although since Apple has less models, it is easier to get parts, only repairing your laptop with them is a bit of a challenge. A lot less parts available for all the different windows laptops/brands
I'm guessing a good 50% of all laptop sales are from casual users, and for them buying apple would be a waste of money just as much as it would be to buy high end windows. Windows has a big market share because they also offer very low end solutions.
@@CleanDesign_ The problem with judging a device off of being the "singular best selling-device" is because Apple does not make many different models of laptops. While Apples macbook air represents the entirety of their affordable laptop segment, companies like asus, acer, Lenovo, hp, and dell may have hundreds of different laptop models available in the low/medium end.
most people moved from windows to iOS or android. The mac mini m4 though is going to be a big seller. I wish apple made a "workstation" line of gear. Alas pro in apple terms just means premium.
Brought a M4 Mac for work. Now Im gaming on it. All games I play perform incredible well. I think about installing debian on my desktop and using it as LLM playball. W11 is bad anyways.
Are you using Parallels or limit your games to the ones available for MacOS? Curious since my M3 Pro could also be a game beast actually but I never tried.
@@davidwho1424 I primarily play native macOS games on my M4 (MAX). I've also experimented with emulation, which runs surprisingly well on Apple Silicon. While the fans do run constantly during gaming sessions, it doesn't bother me since I use a headset. Performance has been impressive overall on this hardware.
That weak GPU is still a major issue. The beauty of the Mac is that they did a good job at supporting all use cases. Blender? check. AI prototyping with pytorch/tensorflow? Check. CAD? Check. Qualcomm obviously lags behind, but I'm also not sure they'll be as effective in supporting pros, rather than just pumping out a machine that makes general use (and corporate data harvesting) easier. They must aim to match the performance of (say) a mobile 4070 in *all* use cases, also by investing in a CUDA compatibility layer and doing it better than AMD did. Also, I really don't like how Snapdragon laptops also imitate the bad things about Macs: no RAM upgrade, no storage upgrade, no easy servicing.
Yeah, would love a more powerful GPU in there. Luckily it seems like devs have been able to do quite a bit with what they currently have (maybe good app optimizations with CPU and GPU tasks) might be more in the hands of app devs at this point if adobe is doing, dare I say it.... Well? Also, every snapdragon laptop I saw had storage upgradeable and (except for the SP11) looked pretty easy to get open and replace stuff... RAM is SoC I believe so I'm less bullish on that vs soldered to motherboard.
If you need a very powerful GPU, do not waste your money on a MAC or any SNAPDRAGON computer. Intel or AMD with a dedicated GPU will always be the best way to go. AI is by far better on WINDOWS than MAC as of today. Future may differ.
@@williamcopeland2617 The premise of the video explained it well: the Mac has a *powerful enough* GPU and yet somehow has adequate cooling and adequate power consumption. It's about time PC laptops achieved the same. (AI is best on Linux. Windows gets second place only thanks to WSL, but although I've never tried on Mac -I can't afford it- I see PyTorch distros for MacOS and Apple Silicon GPUs, and no one has yet declared them a shambles like the ones for AMD GPUS)
@@deeomayall I'll debate you any day of the week as far as you saying, AI is better on LINUX. Apple is definitely efficient, but when it comes to using very intense programs absolutely nothing beats wattage. That's why I will always recommend a Windows device if your company's using major programs. Example, TOPAZ literally sucks on MACS, and the reason is because MACS just doesn't offer enough wattage to get the job done unlike a Windows laptop. But again, Apple is very efficient and offers good battery life.
Do not fail to address the elephant in the room, that being many x86/x64 applications simply will either not function or will crash while running under emulation.
Watching this on my 14' M1 Pro MacBook Pro. This thing has been amazing. The Performance is insane. Battery Life, Insane-r. MacOS? Sucks big time. I like Windows more. Am thinking of upgrading from my XPS 13 Plus to the XPS 13 with SnapDragon X Elite. I'm just so done with this thing running like a Jet Engine and dying every 3-4 hours lmao, not to mention the entire center of the laptop [from the Capacitive Row to F Key till K] getting uncomfortably warm.
If you hit the option key when right clicking on the files, you can have a combined total of the files (using show inspector) instead of the individual size counts in Mac OS
Thanks for the content. Enjoyed and subscribed. I love Macs but never made it to the M series. Reason I came back to windows is because I’ll always need windows OS for my work (boring data work) and getting a Mac means I have to double or triple the RAM as I would lose half running parallels (2 OS systems ran at the same time). So while I accept Apple is now next level. It’s cheaper for me to get a Surface with 16GB RAM allocated fully to windows than a 32GB RAM Mac to split the RAM and on top pay for Paralells subscription. Snapdragon chips have me that efficiency that I craved. I don’t need major graphics grunt. The spare money can go to an iPad to do my modest media work (basically just photo edits). 👍🏾
I love the competition. If someone chooses any brand, these new chips provide a laptop for all audiences. For me personally, Lunar Lake laptops meet all my needs. For other, like video and photo editors who don't game, the M4 MacBook Pro would be the best choice.
You’re comparing a 2021 laptop with 2024 laptops and still it outperforms only most of the tasks, I have an M1 Max as well and I love it, I feel it still incredibly fast and responsive, but the new M4 macs are somehow up to 4 times faster specially on gpu tasks like rendering, no laptop with Qualcomm has ray tracing dedicated hardware and the laptops that have it with windows are huge, horrible and they must be plugged in all the time to get the full performance something that makes no sense in a laptop. I recognize that right now Nvidia has the best gpu’s and for my work as architect they are the best option, that’s why I built myself a desktop pc with high end components like a 13700K and a 4080 but still my MacBook is my favorite tools for most of the things I do like 3D modeling, documentation etc. I use my Pc just for rendering the projects I make on my MacBook, probably with an M4 or M5 the pc won’t be needed anymore, I’ll most certainly get the M5 max next year.
The elephant in the room is called Rosetta! It is the single best feature of Mac OS! You can run non native apps with almost zero lag or penalty! Microsoft needs to that to compete! Perhaps a dedicated chip on chip to decode x86?
So shortsighted, Windows needs to run on a gazillion devices while macos runs only on 1, on top of that, jack shit is compatible with apple either. Although I like the quality and a handful of features that would be desired on windows the concessions you make going to apple is far worse
Great vid. But not sure about the validity of comparing M1 (3 generations old) chip with 2024 arm-4-windows silicon. New arm silicon stacks up well Vs wintel/win-amd though 🙂🙂
I think @TechLens main complaint is the power drain on Windows laptops. Some people may find this surprising but not everyone needs the latest and the greatest. Stuff just needs to be good enough, and even 5 year old laptops are powerful for most people's needs so long as they are not too heavy and the battery lasts long enough. Those doing in multimedia related tasks like graphics and video editing and games are the ones the latest and greatest machines matter to. That being said if you are in the market for new laptop, you might as well buy that is lightest and lasts longest on a charge, and that is still the Apple laptop, so long as it runs the software you want.
@@DavidMorenoH A lot of people do like Mac OS. But I think you're in the minority. Other than gaming, the MacBook Pro is so far and away the best laptop for 99% of people that I think a lot more people would use it if it weren't for the OS. Windows runs better virtualized on an M1 Pro than it did on a Surface Pro 9; I've never even gotten to try it on anything newer than that.
The reason I moved to Apple, and for lots of People is the same, is because of MacOS. I just can’t stand windows, it’s just such a terrible operating system for too many reasons. I use the computer mainly for software development and Mac OS is heaven for that. I would only use windows for gaming, nothing else.
1. When I had to install Windows, I was stuck using one desktop type, with Linux I can choose from many. 2. When I installed Windows, they changed my chosen default settings from my preferred browser to theirs. Why does MS care so much about what browser I use. Also they were adding things to my desktop and start bar and somethings seem un-removable. Its my desktop and Inreally don’t want anyone messing with it. 3. cloud technology is based on Linux, VM’s, containers and I prefer Linux and to stay in that eco-system.
@@ipstacks11 I use both, Linux and MacOSX. All the cloud technologies you mention, are based in unix systems. As you probably now, when I use the terminal in both systems, there's barely any difference betwen MacOSX and linux, I use the same commands. The shell scripts I have in my work projects work in Mac and Linux, and developers joining the company can choose a Mac laptop or a Linux one. Windows is not allowed except if you join one of the teams developing a .NET application.
I'm not a fan of MacOS I also hated Win 11 till the recent update. I was so close to purchase the iPad m4 mainly for the battery life and performance for on the go editing. I ended up going with the Surface Pro 11 LCD because I didn't wanna pay $500 for 1tb SSD the same reason why I'm not buying the new Mac Mini 256ssd for $599 512 for $200 more smh. 2tb added to surface pro for less than $150
The reason Windows drains the battery is that it wakes up periodically to check for updates, trim the SSD, run malware scans, etc. Mac does the same thing. It is only supposed to do it when plugged in. However, if the computer goes to sleep while plugged in, then gets unplugged it isn't smart enough to stop waking. Mac is smart enough to stop waking. It happens with Qualcomm CPUs too, not just Intel/AMD. Microsoft has known about the problem for years and chooses not to fix it. As a user, you can outsmart the system by unplugging the laptop before closing the lid. Then it won't drain the battery nearly as much.
Relax fanboy. I have M3 Max Pro and Windows Desktop. I've customized both of them to be very efficient with my work, so stop being a noob like Mac wanna be talking about the OS. If you know or willing to learn you will customize system for your needs regardless the OS.
The 5800x is from 2020. And a fucking desktop cpu. its like comparing an tank with a tesla and yelling about how unefficient the tank is. Would be stupid to compare with an actual amd mobile chip, which is over 20 percent faster with over 4 time less powe consumption. And it outperformes the snapdragon. I love how tests with m chips and snapdragons ignore actual amd models. But yeah, amd has no money for you...
The point was how impressive it is even compared to a very popular desktop CPU, one still competitive today. No one's comparing efficiency here 😅 no one should. But 5800x desktop performance is very impressive. Which is what was said. You can look up scores of other products based on results in the graph. I focused on apple mainly (you know, given the topic of the video) but wanted to include Intel LL as the most recent popular and relevant comparison. I wasn't even going to include Intel or amd to begin with, but felt like one would be useful for cross comparison. Pros are in pros and non pros are in airs. You seem to be pulling up things that weren't said or are non-issues...
@@TechLens ok, then you should add alder lake and strix point at least to your mind to see what positive development is in modern x86 chips....even i also think the future is arm based...but as long most people cant afford apple or shouldnt (when their use is like surfing and office) they are stuck to windows or linux...and in this world there is no need for arm chips as long they get way way cheaper.
re Battery drain while sleeping: very strange, I've had numerous Windows PC and have never suffered from this. Plus you can always turn on auto-hibernation to have ZERO drain. Resume from hibernation will take you 10 seconds max (a negligeable time in one's life, I'm sure you'll agree)
Yes, yes, yes, however Microsoft Windows is quite horrible. Apple advantages include the clean operating system. Linux Mint is all about desktop performance and open source compatibility. If I purchased a Dell M18, which is Intel based I would immediately strip Microsoft Windows and add Linux Mint and have better performance with my laptop. Windows is incompatible to productivity. I use Apple for programs I can’t work without.
Unless the program you can't work without is music production, what you're saying makes no sense. And if it is music production it's niche enough to be irrelevant to everyone else here.
@@realmadera You absolutely can edit photos and videos on Linux. You can't use Adobe applications, but there are alternatives. DaVinci Resolve works better on Linux than Windows in my limited experience. Maybe you prefer the Windows/Mac versions, or maybe they are objectively better for your use case and that is completely fair, use what is best for you. But don't pretend that alternatives are completely unusable.
My most intensive app is for orchestral music production. Cubase Pro using a multichannel external ASIO capable sound and MIDI interface, multiple VST music plugins and VEP Pro to manage the plugins, requires both a powerful multicore CPU and LOTS of RAM. My most recent desktop build included 128GB or RAM. Yet to see any laptop that comes close to the specs needed. I did try using laptops for music production but kept hitting that RAM ceiling.
MSI 18” Titan and Raider take up to 192GB. Clevo’s 17” goes up to 96GB. The Clevo is notable in that it draws higher power and outperforms, but its battery life likely sucks… and it’s 7.5 lbs. The MSIs are a bit less heavy.
@ as best as I can tell, these are the only two PC laptop manufacturers supporting higher than 64GB from the factory. There could be others out there, in particular Chinese laptops, but I’m not personally interested in those and would not know about them.
11:15 Just hold the option key (Cmd-Option-i or Option-Rightclick) to get an info window with a summation of the files selected. Not reading the manual or using the help menu is "amazingly stupid". Regarding saving money on software: Macs come with a lot of software that is not free on Windows (e.g. Pages, GarageBand, Preview, Scripteditor, all the Unix tools in the Terminal ...). So how much you'd have to spend on software is highly dependent on the specific use case.
Brother this video was freaking awesome.👏. The problem is Apple 🍎 addresses Customer perception of “not having to figure tech out”. We tech heads are only a small portion of the buying world, ecosystem will always play well with less technical people willing to pay more.
I had a Sony Vaio with an ARM processor and Vista, its that long ago, and it sucked. Even after upgrading bot OS and memory the performance was lagging. So for me ARM was the processor to avoid. Of course that was the smallest possible test set, an accidental experience from one person, but thats how most things work for individuals I think. To hear now that ARM is the best option for Windows laptops is eye opening on many levels!
I think cpu performance isnt the point anymore. Choose the operating system you prefer and find a laptop that fits your needs. In my opinion M series Macbooks are still unmatched especially since the base models have at least 16 gb ram. If you compare chips from the same generations the only reason to buy a Windows Laptop might be the OS. Build quality, gpu performance, noise emmission… abailability of native software, everything is better on Mac. 🤷🏼♂️
I guess you want to be controversial. Dev work is best done on Unix systems (Linux/macOS). Content creation, macOS. Gaming is the only Windows advantage but both Linux and macOS are catching up.
You can get that for free now with VMWare Fusion Pro (for personal use; there's still commercial licenses available). I tried Win11 and Debian and both work flawlessly (on an M3 Pro). I can even play my Steam games on Win11 in there as long as they are not too demanding.
I really like my first MacBook, but if you have problems in MacOS like I've been having, it's extremely frustrating. Work arounds are few, which leaves you running through a maze, where you hit a wall and have to turn around. Apple doesn't help either, their two line explanations often use the question in the answer. Honestly, if it weren't for Google's AI, I'd barely be progressing at all. It's disappointing.
windows has nothing but performance and efficiency tho macbooks have a whole apple ecosystem which many ppl actually like whilst also having reliable performance and battery and its all backed up by probably the best engineers in the world.
I thought of buying ARM v9 WoA but x Elite is priced 2x than Intel core ultra and AMD hawk point. Went with hawk point ThinkPad p14s g5 AMD 8840HS and upgradeable Ram and SSD. Network from Qualcomm is soldered is utter garbage than ax210 and had to use more recent driver from station drivers to fix the slow speed, Bluetooth stability and huge latency
I have never heard anyone else say what you have said about the OS in macbookOS compared to OS in windows...as I have had to learn another way to think and go through apple OS's on macbook, ipad, and iphone and painfully have to guide my friends and family over many years through ups and downs of apple verses windows pros and cons. As I said in 2020...it will be less than 5 years when windows catches up and probably surpass apple silicon...that is now coming true in 2024 on a hardware side... As I deal more with multi media than data or programming, my preference and work flow is more affected by multi media programs performance...so native arm based programs written for arm have a massive performance advantage. As I use linux, windows and mac I can really understand what you are talking about here in this video. I have lived the difference of a workflow on all 3 OS. There is no OS that does everything well and never will be, due to personal preference and the next advancement in tech that could make what you use now less functional for your work flow over something else that works better, hard ware or software preferably both being better... That is why I like your video over the vast majority of other videos as I don't see sides one being always being better than another...as this will always change as big tech wants you to keep buying new products...what you are prepared to put up with or use better is more important than anything else over brands or loyalty.
Carry your Windows laptop in your backpack without 100% confidence that It is totally shut down, and you can finish with a toasted dead laptop or damaged for life. It still has an Nvidia GPU, which is still a huge energy consumer, and vents are closed. Good luck.
Paused at 3:38 and might eat my words if you address my point: who even sleeps their Windows - especially their laptops?! Full shutdown and issue irrelevant. ‘But!’ you say. Power-up boot cycle time takes a generation to complete! To which I respond, wake up hang up issues happening regularly enough, which force a full power cycle anyways, with said power cycle involving a *hard* shutdown on top of it all, which is hard on the os. Also, being a gaming laptop and RoG Ally user, spontaneous sleep wake-up whilst packed away in luggage / stored in carry case (respectively for each) is a fantastic way to smother and destroy your machines. Sod Windows sleep. No sane person even uses it. 7:38 I also have an M1 Pro Max. Sleep battery drain is a novelty, but to re-iterate the above, for me it is the fact that I can put my Apple to sleep and put it into its hard carry case, without worrying that it will suddenly wake up and overheat out of the blue. Battery life on sleep is just the cherry on top.
Windows has too much going on and drains the battery when laptop is not in use. Try turning all of those registry services off until the next update. Impossible.
I think you don't understand what the Registry is. The reason Windows drains the battery is that it wakes up periodically to check for updates, trim the SSD, run malware scans, etc. Mac does the same thing. It is only supposed to do it when plugged in. However, if the computer goes to sleep while plugged in, then gets unplugged it isn't smart enough to stop waking. Mac is smart enough to stop waking. Microsoft has known about the problem for years and chooses not to fix it.
Maybe we need more Arm-based video games. You know, at present, many video games haven't still moved to Arm-based systems. I was never an Apple user, but I'm going to be. Of course I want a more powerful hardware, that's from Apple.
We often forget how apple silicon was in the same position X Elite laptops are in right now, almost no meaningful app worked, gaming was virtually impossible and the only real feature was the immense battery life. Just gotta wait 2 more years and see how arm based windows faces the future 👌👌
The difference is that apple replaced the intel with arm. Microsoft just added ARM to the windows platform. At 10.20 he is right. Ms sql server is a stark example for software missing on arm.
Seriously - Windows on ARM needs a decent graphics solution for professional use as a compelling platform - Qualcomm are working to address this in newer gen model SoCs. I don't think the upcoming event re M4 based tech is a sign they are fearful of the future - actually it's an expression of confidence from a market leader in that 'ARM SoC' space. But these laptops are the canary in the mine for x86 architecture imo, rather than Apple specifically.
Comparing laptops that are from different yrs isn't a good review. Also, Microsoft didn't make the Snapdragon processor. There is a big advantage Apple has controlling the hardware and software ecosystem to optimize their products. Lots of people fail to appreciate that, especially if they didn't study EE in college or hardware engineering.
You are right. The Mac finder absolutely sucks. I find the Windows environment more productive and the Mac environment most entertaining. For my daily tasks, I just stick to Windows, and for the hobby and part, it is Mac.
I don't use a laptop (for a lot of reasons, although primarily because I really don't need one), but if I was going to purchase a laptop, it would more than likely be a Mac. This is because I'm an iPhone/iPad user already (both were gifted to me) but it's also because, after 40+ years of using MS DOS and Windows (pretty much exclusively), I've had *ENOUGH* of Microsoft's shoving garbage at me that I don't need and (therefore) don't want. I've always hated the way they pollute *MY* operating environment with junk features (Edge is but a single glaring example) that I then have to figure out a way to disable or remove, or simply learn to live with. The last straw for me is this Recall nonsense, because it's yet another example of a feature that I'll never _ever_ use, but also won't be able to get rid of. I'm done: I've paid full retail for every copy of Windows that I've ever installed, and I've been treated like a redheaded stepchild by those fools every step of the way. So it finally dawned on me that there's not much (if anything) that I can't do on a Linux system that I've been doing under Windows for years, and I decided to make the move. Mint Cinnamon edition and Nobara are what I'm starting out with, but I'm looking at other distros as well, and I'm having a damned good time doing it. I'll keep riding 23H2 until the wheels fall off, but after that I'm getting all things Microsoft the hell out of my ecosystem. 🚮
That's a completely fair perspective. I hate how many machines I've had to go into and disable all the telemetry etc. Hopefully the situation will change so it's off by default and maybe we're insentivised to enable? But something tells me that's unlikely 😅 but I've also found using copilot and double checking the answer far quicker than trying to google something lately, especially when you know your answer isn't going to be the immediate google response... So I'm not unhappy with everything new, I've still got a usable search engine 😅 Also, don't forget about the windows key sponsor on the video... Haven't paid full price for longer than I remember and I honestly do trust them with plenty of subscribers praising them. Hope you're well dude!
@@TechLens Thanks for understanding. 🙏🏼 For a good while I'll be running both platforms in tandem because, although I've known about Linux for a long time, I'm virtually brand new to it (due to never being willing to take the time to learn it before now 🙄). Fortunately for me though it's not _quantum physics,_ and I've picked up enough general computing knowledge over the years to make transitioning to Linux a much less daunting prospect than it used to seem like. And I'll keep Whokeys in mind. I'm currently in the process of building gaming PCs for my son, daughter, and son-in-law (as well as another one for myself, but for Linux), but the main reason I've always gone the full retail route with Windows is so I can shake my fist at Microsoft and shout, _"I _*_OWN_*_ this piece of software, dammit, so stop fuggin' with it!"_ Stay safe and be well. 😊 EDIT: Damned typos! *_*shakes fist*_*
I went for the lenovo yoga slim 7x with 32 gb. It works fine for what I do. I use davinci resolve, affinity and now blender that just announced i an arma version in 4.3 and a plugin to accelerate renders riduculesly fast (so they say haven tried it yet. My office apps and browsers work very well. I don't play games that much.
Clearly someone here doesnt know that AMD has very good mobile chips. But since AMD doesnt bribe influencers, unlike intel and ngreedia, you wouldnt know about them.
My 12 month review of swapping to AMD is about 50% complete, likely the next video... Stay tuned. If you watched the first one, you probably wouldn't write this comment 😅
@@TechLens If that's the case, then this video is even more biased than what I thought, because again, you made it sound like AMD doesn't exist in the mobile market.
It's about a GPUs. Should of mentioned that as your comment made no sense to me until I realized. Either way, the point is.... When you paint with such a broad brush, you're going to go over the lines and miss.
Apple is way ahead because of TSMC‘s 5 and 3 nm technology. But who in the world really needs all those „portable“ PCs? For most of the people a desktop with large screen would fit much better, Imam sure. But macOS is so ancient, outdated, crypted, chaotic, not intuitive… It needs to be modernized a lot. Just the way of „sharing“ object or they way to print four pages at the right order into a PDF. Nearly impossible to solve right now.
DOS and Unix.. Unix is stable,.. DOS is not. It's that simple. Doesnt' mean windows is crashing as much as before, but my MAC doesn't crash. It can, but rare, it's running on top of Unix. Windows biggest problem is how many companies are making computers that suck and that helps windows suck more. It doesn't help that Bill has so much time on his hands that he connects to your computer at night when you're sleeping and you hear the computer cranking. What is he looking for ?
Windows is mostly staying on x86, the pool of arm windows products users is very tiny, the reason why apple was able to do this multiple times (changing architecture), is because they transitioned their entire product lineup to the new stuff, including all the apps that 3th party developers create, they have no choice! Want to release your new app on mac? Better be arm! But, windows? Most used windows devices are x86 based, so, that means that developers have to tailer their app for 2 architectures, which takes a lot of extra resources they could be putting those resources in making their existing apps better. In my opinion is an intel mac more usefull than a new M series macbook, on an intel macbook pro, i can run macos (yes, i know, for now, but that's not the point of my comment), i can run windows, i can run linux, so, no mather what happens, i will be supported. If apple says that your M1 macbook air can't update to the newest os, it will be like the powerpc era, you are virtually stuck, yes, you might be able to run some flavour of linux, but that's not the same, because of the architecture. I think there is still a lot of work to be done before arm becomes a serious contender in the pc space.
I edit 4k video with ease with a samsung galaxy tab S9+ 12 inch tablet that i bought used off ebay for $450. Not even a hiccup. Before that I was using a tab S7 which did stain a little but still got the job done just fine. Laptops are over rated these days unless you're a hard core gamer. Just my opinion
apple didn't take any gambles or risk with the M1... they are based off of the iphone CPU/GPU and boosted with some more wattages / cores. Also microsoft are excellently like the windows phone, windows mobile, windows on ARM (the 1st time) are making another fudge. Windows is so complex and so many ways to do 1 thing, its a gold mine for attack vectors. That is if Microsoft replay doesn't upload all your metadata 1st. Apple have nothing to worry about. Their genius move is the $599 mac mini. Microsofts core business is no longer windows either. SaaS is their game these days. SaaS runs on any platform with a browser. Whoops. That need for "backwards compatibility at all costs is no longer the value it once was. Having said all of that i am really looking forward to buying an ARM laptop that is not Apple next. It wont have windows on it though. FTR i was a windows dev for 15+ years. PS apple keyboards are amazing? no, lenovo make the class leading keyboards. Remember the butterfly keyboards on macs? Terrible. Apple are good for: battery life at real power levels, trackpads, screens, smaller chassis, rigid unibody construction.
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the best windows laptop is a Macbook.!!!
Even a MacBook Pro's battery will drain in its sleep if you run Windows in a virtual machine. The hardware isn't the problem; it's the Windows operating system.
The only software I’ve needed to buy for my Mac was a $12 window management tool now made redundant by the latest OS. I can also run Linux and Windows on it should I want to. Battery life? I have an M2 Mini Pro and my phone for when I’m mobile and plan on getting an iPad for longer trips. I’m through with Windows.
@@polishtheday Good call. With Windows 11 24H2 comes nonstop monitoring by Microsoft Recall. This will lead to unintended violation of non-disclosure agreements and disclosure of intellectual property (both yours and customers).
Windows is a virus, when you sleep it can try to upgrade or see what you're doing.
After switching to linux my laptop while asleep just lasts forever. I can come back days later, it will still be asleep and barely lost any battery
Macs still will randomly have the issue of not going to sleep. Certain applications are written badly and can cause it to stay awake.
you are comparing latest windows devices with three years old MacBook. Compare it with latest MacBook with M4...
the day video was published M4 was not available
@@porterneon i think he did include M3 benchmarks
thank you
nothing on earth can beat M4,
@@meeladalsulaiman9193 in multicore m4 cant beat AMD or intel
in actual 3d rendering and multiple timeline editing with effects
several highly serious production tasks cant be done by m4
Also, don’t forget you’re comparing with a M1 why don’t you try to compare with a M4 max RAV4 pro I think you’ll see that the windows machine just can’t
Actually this entire video is useless based on this fact. But why would he do this?
But this is just the start. They will improve over the next few years.
@@Techdeck758Probably you dont factor in price. Why not compare against supercomputers? It blew away M4 like kid calculator. M4 over priced and severely lacking apps. Even Microsoft 365 on Windows is so much more features than the version on Mac. Keynotes and Numbers are near joke when you know PowerPoint and Excel. Then Premier also functional pretty blew away M4 as well unless you fork out like extra 2-3K usd. If that is the case, might as well compare to desktop fully decked with that kind of budget?
Bro just think logically he compared 1 generation products from each platform that's.
And he can do only what he have 😅
He may not have any m4 Mac portables platform products so he didn't.
I think you're the one who is annoyed. He mentioned it in video too 😂.
same the issues that you mention with mac are what keep me from buying a mac book and also an iphone. being able to do anything you want with your device and not having to pay for every other software is such a cool thing on windows
Huh? Macbooks come with more software installed (or free) than windows (keynote, imovie, numbers, pages, preview, garageband) and tons of open source stuff to install.
Totally agree on being able to do anything you want, for example repairing it yourself. Although since Apple has less models, it is easier to get parts, only repairing your laptop with them is a bit of a challenge. A lot less parts available for all the different windows laptops/brands
@@ramonrichie9683 except for framework though. They have way better part costs, availability, options and they are easier to fix with less tools.
The software I need to run on my Mac is free.
You could get that much much more with Linux.
Sometimes I wonder why Windows Ecosystem is so Open.
For me Windows is the right balance between macOS and Linux
11:15 Use option + command + i, then you see the sum of it. Or right click with the option key and choose inspector instead of info.
It's funny how you hear people saying, A-lot of people moved from WINDOWS to MACS, yet MACS market shares are still relatively low. Crazy!!!!
I'm guessing a good 50% of all laptop sales are from casual users, and for them buying apple would be a waste of money just as much as it would be to buy high end windows. Windows has a big market share because they also offer very low end solutions.
@@CleanDesign_ The problem with judging a device off of being the "singular best selling-device" is because Apple does not make many different models of laptops. While Apples macbook air represents the entirety of their affordable laptop segment, companies like asus, acer, Lenovo, hp, and dell may have hundreds of different laptop models available in the low/medium end.
most people moved from windows to iOS or android. The mac mini m4 though is going to be a big seller. I wish apple made a "workstation" line of gear. Alas pro in apple terms just means premium.
@mrrolandlawrence We're talking about computers brotha. Laptops and Desktops. Apples marketshare is ass. Lol...
Most people buy PC for games, if more games out there for Mac, mac will get more market share
I love the Mac hardware quality and OS experience, but nothing is compatible with it
Brought a M4 Mac for work. Now Im gaming on it. All games I play perform incredible well. I think about installing debian on my desktop and using it as LLM playball. W11 is bad anyways.
Are you using Parallels or limit your games to the ones available for MacOS? Curious since my M3 Pro could also be a game beast actually but I never tried.
@@davidwho1424 I primarily play native macOS games on my M4 (MAX). I've also experimented with emulation, which runs surprisingly well on Apple Silicon. While the fans do run constantly during gaming sessions, it doesn't bother me since I use a headset. Performance has been impressive overall on this hardware.
Team Asahi Linux !
That weak GPU is still a major issue. The beauty of the Mac is that they did a good job at supporting all use cases. Blender? check. AI prototyping with pytorch/tensorflow? Check. CAD? Check. Qualcomm obviously lags behind, but I'm also not sure they'll be as effective in supporting pros, rather than just pumping out a machine that makes general use (and corporate data harvesting) easier. They must aim to match the performance of (say) a mobile 4070 in *all* use cases, also by investing in a CUDA compatibility layer and doing it better than AMD did.
Also, I really don't like how Snapdragon laptops also imitate the bad things about Macs: no RAM upgrade, no storage upgrade, no easy servicing.
Yeah, would love a more powerful GPU in there. Luckily it seems like devs have been able to do quite a bit with what they currently have (maybe good app optimizations with CPU and GPU tasks) might be more in the hands of app devs at this point if adobe is doing, dare I say it.... Well?
Also, every snapdragon laptop I saw had storage upgradeable and (except for the SP11) looked pretty easy to get open and replace stuff... RAM is SoC I believe so I'm less bullish on that vs soldered to motherboard.
If you need a very powerful GPU, do not waste your money on a MAC or any SNAPDRAGON computer. Intel or AMD with a dedicated GPU will always be the best way to go. AI is by far better on WINDOWS than MAC as of today. Future may differ.
@@williamcopeland2617 The premise of the video explained it well: the Mac has a *powerful enough* GPU and yet somehow has adequate cooling and adequate power consumption. It's about time PC laptops achieved the same.
(AI is best on Linux. Windows gets second place only thanks to WSL, but although I've never tried on Mac -I can't afford it- I see PyTorch distros for MacOS and Apple Silicon GPUs, and no one has yet declared them a shambles like the ones for AMD GPUS)
@@deeomayall I'll debate you any day of the week as far as you saying, AI is better on LINUX. Apple is definitely efficient, but when it comes to using very intense programs absolutely nothing beats wattage. That's why I will always recommend a Windows device if your company's using major programs. Example, TOPAZ literally sucks on MACS, and the reason is because MACS just doesn't offer enough wattage to get the job done unlike a Windows laptop. But again, Apple is very efficient and offers good battery life.
Not sure about te new M chips, but the old ones are an absolute joke when it comes to blender.
Why are you using the M1 chip for your comparison when the M4 chip is out?
Do not fail to address the elephant in the room, that being many x86/x64 applications simply will either not function or will crash while running under emulation.
It is more about OS choice… Not battery or hardware…
It literally is battery and hardware, OS is important but these 2 are more important
Watching this on my 14' M1 Pro MacBook Pro.
This thing has been amazing. The Performance is insane. Battery Life, Insane-r.
MacOS? Sucks big time. I like Windows more.
Am thinking of upgrading from my XPS 13 Plus to the XPS 13 with SnapDragon X Elite.
I'm just so done with this thing running like a Jet Engine and dying every 3-4 hours lmao, not to mention the entire center of the laptop [from the Capacitive Row to F Key till K] getting uncomfortably warm.
If you hit the option key when right clicking on the files, you can have a combined total of the files (using show inspector) instead of the individual size counts in Mac OS
Thanks for the content. Enjoyed and subscribed.
I love Macs but never made it to the M series. Reason I came back to windows is because I’ll always need windows OS for my work (boring data work) and getting a Mac means I have to double or triple the RAM as I would lose half running parallels (2 OS systems ran at the same time).
So while I accept Apple is now next level. It’s cheaper for me to get a Surface with 16GB RAM allocated fully to windows than a 32GB RAM Mac to split the RAM and on top pay for Paralells subscription. Snapdragon chips have me that efficiency that I craved. I don’t need major graphics grunt.
The spare money can go to an iPad to do my modest media work (basically just photo edits). 👍🏾
I love the competition. If someone chooses any brand, these new chips provide a laptop for all audiences. For me personally, Lunar Lake laptops meet all my needs. For other, like video and photo editors who don't game, the M4 MacBook Pro would be the best choice.
You’re comparing a 2021 laptop with 2024 laptops and still it outperforms only most of the tasks, I have an M1 Max as well and I love it, I feel it still incredibly fast and responsive, but the new M4 macs are somehow up to 4 times faster specially on gpu tasks like rendering, no laptop with Qualcomm has ray tracing dedicated hardware and the laptops that have it with windows are huge, horrible and they must be plugged in all the time to get the full performance something that makes no sense in a laptop. I recognize that right now Nvidia has the best gpu’s and for my work as architect they are the best option, that’s why I built myself a desktop pc with high end components like a 13700K and a 4080 but still my MacBook is my favorite tools for most of the things I do like 3D modeling, documentation etc. I use my Pc just for rendering the projects I make on my MacBook, probably with an M4 or M5 the pc won’t be needed anymore, I’ll most certainly get the M5 max next year.
The elephant in the room is called Rosetta! It is the single best feature of Mac OS! You can run non native apps with almost zero lag or penalty! Microsoft needs to that to compete! Perhaps a dedicated chip on chip to decode x86?
You should do more research and find out what prism is.
We need native BootCamp (Windows) on Apple M-Series (Arm)…
VMware fusion runs on Apple silicon and runs windows as well as many other os environments.
I think Microsoft is missing the point. If you have a garbage operating system, it doesn't matter how the aesthetics look on the outside.
It would be interesting to compare the battery drain on those MSWindows laptops with Linux installed on the exact same machines.
So shortsighted, Windows needs to run on a gazillion devices while macos runs only on 1, on top of that, jack shit is compatible with apple either. Although I like the quality and a handful of features that would be desired on windows the concessions you make going to apple is far worse
From an Apple fan, thanks, i am dreaming of a laptop with over 600 nits oled, games, more than MacBooks now have.
Check out Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 or G16 (2024)
@@martinakumba1754 Thank you for advice
Great vid. But not sure about the validity of comparing M1 (3 generations old) chip with 2024 arm-4-windows silicon. New arm silicon stacks up well Vs wintel/win-amd though 🙂🙂
I think @TechLens main complaint is the power drain on Windows laptops. Some people may find this surprising but not everyone needs the latest and the greatest. Stuff just needs to be good enough, and even 5 year old laptops are powerful for most people's needs so long as they are not too heavy and the battery lasts long enough.
Those doing in multimedia related tasks like graphics and video editing and games are the ones the latest and greatest machines matter to. That being said if you are in the market for new laptop, you might as well buy that is lightest and lasts longest on a charge, and that is still the Apple laptop, so long as it runs the software you want.
Lol, you're so wrong.
>The biggest reason to buy a Mac is no longer a Mac-only feature.
The biggest reason to buy a Mac is to use macOS, not Windows.
As a Mac user, that is the biggest reason to not use a Mac. Many, perhaps most, people do not like Mac OS. We tolerate it for the hardware.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 As a Mac user too, you're full of BS. I wouldn't use a MBP if it had only Windows on it
@@DavidMorenoH A lot of people do like Mac OS. But I think you're in the minority. Other than gaming, the MacBook Pro is so far and away the best laptop for 99% of people that I think a lot more people would use it if it weren't for the OS. Windows runs better virtualized on an M1 Pro than it did on a Surface Pro 9; I've never even gotten to try it on anything newer than that.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872- OMG! Windows > Mac OS. Still, after YEARS, I sorely miss Windows OS. My Mac makes me dread using it.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 if you think Mac users don’t love MacOS, you don’t know any Mac users
Add [Option] and right click Get Info to get a summary of file selected. ☺
The reason I moved to Apple, and for lots of People is the same, is because of MacOS. I just can’t stand windows, it’s just such a terrible operating system for too many reasons. I use the computer mainly for software development and Mac OS is heaven for that. I would only use windows for gaming, nothing else.
Can you share 2 of the many reasons?
For software development you say ? Well ... Linux ?
1. When I had to install Windows, I was stuck using one desktop type, with Linux I can choose from many.
2. When I installed Windows, they changed my chosen default settings from my preferred browser to theirs. Why does MS care so much about what browser I use. Also they were adding things to my desktop and start bar and somethings seem un-removable. Its my desktop and Inreally don’t want anyone messing with it.
3. cloud technology is based on Linux, VM’s, containers and I prefer Linux and to stay in that eco-system.
@@Louis-L186 I use both, MacOS and Linux.
@@ipstacks11 I use both, Linux and MacOSX. All the cloud technologies you mention, are based in unix systems. As you probably now, when I use the terminal in both systems, there's barely any difference betwen MacOSX and linux, I use the same commands. The shell scripts I have in my work projects work in Mac and Linux, and developers joining the company can choose a Mac laptop or a Linux one. Windows is not allowed except if you join one of the teams developing a .NET application.
What tablet stand did you get?
I also want to know
Thanks a lot for the Windows-laptop vs Apple ones
@TechLens, you can figure out the total size of multiple files in macOS when you press command+option and I
When are you going to compare them to M4 Macs?
Liked and subbed when I heard "Dragon-sized elephant"! 😅
The highly portable USB Type C 140 watt laptop chargers might also complicate your needs calculation.
What tablet stand are you using?
I'm not a fan of MacOS I also hated Win 11 till the recent update. I was so close to purchase the iPad m4 mainly for the battery life and performance for on the go editing. I ended up going with the Surface Pro 11 LCD because I didn't wanna pay $500 for 1tb SSD the same reason why I'm not buying the new Mac Mini 256ssd for $599 512 for $200 more smh. 2tb added to surface pro for less than $150
Another issue is that Qualcomm seems to have lost it's license to make ARM chips...
The reason Windows drains the battery is that it wakes up periodically to check for updates, trim the SSD, run malware scans, etc. Mac does the same thing. It is only supposed to do it when plugged in. However, if the computer goes to sleep while plugged in, then gets unplugged it isn't smart enough to stop waking. Mac is smart enough to stop waking. It happens with Qualcomm CPUs too, not just Intel/AMD. Microsoft has known about the problem for years and chooses not to fix it.
As a user, you can outsmart the system by unplugging the laptop before closing the lid. Then it won't drain the battery nearly as much.
It’s really too bad that you had no clue of all the features that Mac has that makes you much more efficient and getting jobs done
Relax fanboy. I have M3 Max Pro and Windows Desktop. I've customized both of them to be very efficient with my work, so stop being a noob like Mac wanna be talking about the OS. If you know or willing to learn you will customize system for your needs regardless the OS.
@@ManoManovWell said!
@@ManoManov Logic 👍🏾👍🏾
The 5800x is from 2020. And a fucking desktop cpu. its like comparing an tank with a tesla and yelling about how unefficient the tank is. Would be stupid to compare with an actual amd mobile chip, which is over 20 percent faster with over 4 time less powe consumption. And it outperformes the snapdragon. I love how tests with m chips and snapdragons ignore actual amd models. But yeah, amd has no money for you...
The point was how impressive it is even compared to a very popular desktop CPU, one still competitive today. No one's comparing efficiency here 😅 no one should. But 5800x desktop performance is very impressive. Which is what was said.
You can look up scores of other products based on results in the graph. I focused on apple mainly (you know, given the topic of the video) but wanted to include Intel LL as the most recent popular and relevant comparison. I wasn't even going to include Intel or amd to begin with, but felt like one would be useful for cross comparison.
Pros are in pros and non pros are in airs.
You seem to be pulling up things that weren't said or are non-issues...
@@TechLens ok, then you should add alder lake and strix point at least to your mind to see what positive development is in modern x86 chips....even i also think the future is arm based...but as long most people cant afford apple or shouldnt (when their use is like surfing and office) they are stuck to windows or linux...and in this world there is no need for arm chips as long they get way way cheaper.
I wonder if this video would've had the same tone if it were made a month later.
re Battery drain while sleeping: very strange, I've had numerous Windows PC and have never suffered from this. Plus you can always turn on auto-hibernation to have ZERO drain. Resume from hibernation will take you 10 seconds max (a negligeable time in one's life, I'm sure you'll agree)
Yes, yes, yes, however Microsoft Windows is quite horrible. Apple advantages include the clean operating system. Linux Mint is all about desktop performance and open source compatibility. If I purchased a Dell M18, which is Intel based I would immediately strip Microsoft Windows and add Linux Mint and have better performance with my laptop. Windows is incompatible to productivity. I use Apple for programs I can’t work without.
Unless the program you can't work without is music production, what you're saying makes no sense. And if it is music production it's niche enough to be irrelevant to everyone else here.
Linux has worse performance than a gutted win11 ISO without defender and all the bullshit.
Nobody wants to use a inferior cheap product like linux
@@PKperformanceEU Please do not use Windows without Defender. It's there for a reason.
Windows is incompatible to productivity? Yet I can't edit my photos and videos on Linux trust me alternative FOSS suck.
@@realmadera You absolutely can edit photos and videos on Linux. You can't use Adobe applications, but there are alternatives. DaVinci Resolve works better on Linux than Windows in my limited experience. Maybe you prefer the Windows/Mac versions, or maybe they are objectively better for your use case and that is completely fair, use what is best for you. But don't pretend that alternatives are completely unusable.
Microsoft isn't serious about ARM series yet. Hopefully they got serious soon otherwise they would be losing market share.
My most intensive app is for orchestral music production. Cubase Pro using a multichannel external ASIO capable sound and MIDI interface, multiple VST music plugins and VEP Pro to manage the plugins, requires both a powerful multicore CPU and LOTS of RAM. My most recent desktop build included 128GB or RAM. Yet to see any laptop that comes close to the specs needed. I did try using laptops for music production but kept hitting that RAM ceiling.
MSI 18” Titan and Raider take up to 192GB. Clevo’s 17” goes up to 96GB. The Clevo is notable in that it draws higher power and outperforms, but its battery life likely sucks… and it’s 7.5 lbs. The MSIs are a bit less heavy.
@@ScottBasu About time! Thanks for the latest info.
@ as best as I can tell, these are the only two PC laptop manufacturers supporting higher than 64GB from the factory. There could be others out there, in particular Chinese laptops, but I’m not personally interested in those and would not know about them.
Isnt your export times gonna be much slower now compared to m1 max? 🤔
11:15 Just hold the option key (Cmd-Option-i or Option-Rightclick) to get an info window with a summation of the files selected. Not reading the manual or using the help menu is "amazingly stupid".
Regarding saving money on software: Macs come with a lot of software that is not free on Windows (e.g. Pages, GarageBand, Preview, Scripteditor, all the Unix tools in the Terminal ...). So how much you'd have to spend on software is highly dependent on the specific use case.
Brother this video was freaking awesome.👏. The problem is Apple 🍎 addresses Customer perception of “not having to figure tech out”. We tech heads are only a small portion of the buying world, ecosystem will always play well with less technical people willing to pay more.
I had a Sony Vaio with an ARM processor and Vista, its that long ago, and it sucked. Even after upgrading bot OS and memory the performance was lagging. So for me ARM was the processor to avoid. Of course that was the smallest possible test set, an accidental experience from one person, but thats how most things work for individuals I think. To hear now that ARM is the best option for Windows laptops is eye opening on many levels!
I think cpu performance isnt the point anymore. Choose the operating system you prefer and find a laptop that fits your needs. In my opinion M series Macbooks are still unmatched especially since the base models have at least 16 gb ram. If you compare chips from the same generations the only reason to buy a Windows Laptop might be the OS. Build quality, gpu performance, noise emmission… abailability of native software, everything is better on Mac. 🤷🏼♂️
I guess you want to be controversial. Dev work is best done on Unix systems (Linux/macOS). Content creation, macOS. Gaming is the only Windows advantage but both Linux and macOS are catching up.
Do your glasses have lenses? I don’t think they do.
The M4 beats the pants off everything
They still needs couple years for software are made for ARM on Windows.
Will we be getting a "A Creative does the One Month Linux Challenge" video then ? 😜
I use M3 Max with parallels for windows ! Works wonderful for me.
You can get that for free now with VMWare Fusion Pro (for personal use; there's still commercial licenses available). I tried Win11 and Debian and both work flawlessly (on an M3 Pro). I can even play my Steam games on Win11 in there as long as they are not too demanding.
Have you compared similar apps on Linux to Windows?
I really like my first MacBook, but if you have problems in MacOS like I've been having, it's extremely frustrating. Work arounds are few, which leaves you running through a maze, where you hit a wall and have to turn around. Apple doesn't help either, their two line explanations often use the question in the answer. Honestly, if it weren't for Google's AI, I'd barely be progressing at all. It's disappointing.
windows has nothing but performance and efficiency tho
macbooks have a whole apple ecosystem which many ppl actually like whilst also having reliable performance and battery and its all backed up by probably the best engineers in the world.
I thought of buying ARM v9 WoA but x Elite is priced 2x than Intel core ultra and AMD hawk point. Went with hawk point ThinkPad p14s g5 AMD 8840HS and upgradeable Ram and SSD. Network from Qualcomm is soldered is utter garbage than ax210 and had to use more recent driver from station drivers to fix the slow speed, Bluetooth stability and huge latency
If Macbook has a really powerful chip, why do many 3d designers and gamers still only choose windows🤔
I have never heard anyone else say what you have said about the OS in macbookOS compared to OS in windows...as I have had to learn another way to think and go through apple OS's on macbook, ipad, and iphone and painfully have to guide my friends and family over many years through ups and downs of apple verses windows pros and cons.
As I said in 2020...it will be less than 5 years when windows catches up and probably surpass apple silicon...that is now coming true in 2024 on a hardware side...
As I deal more with multi media than data or programming, my preference and work flow is more affected by multi media programs performance...so native arm based programs written for arm have a massive performance advantage. As I use linux, windows and mac I can really understand what you are talking about here in this video. I have lived the difference of a workflow on all 3 OS.
There is no OS that does everything well and never will be, due to personal preference and the next advancement in tech that could make what you use now less functional for your work flow over something else that works better, hard ware or software preferably both being better...
That is why I like your video over the vast majority of other videos as I don't see sides one being always being better than another...as this will always change as big tech wants you to keep buying new products...what you are prepared to put up with or use better is more important than anything else over brands or loyalty.
Carry your Windows laptop in your backpack without 100% confidence that It is totally shut down, and you can finish with a toasted dead laptop or damaged for life. It still has an Nvidia GPU, which is still a huge energy consumer, and vents are closed. Good luck.
Thanks for the deep insight. Cheers
I switched to a Mac because of Windows 11, not because of any windows supported hardware.
14:51 🤣 That sucker has not tried a Lenovo Thinkpad yet !
Google chrome drain cpu/ gpu power and memory on mac and windows.
I tried to like Mac OS but I just can't seem to grasp it like I do Windows computers
M2 & M3 releases were a "meh" but M4 is huge leap from M1. The base M4 SoC's are stellar. Test against them. My money is on Apple...by a wide margin.
Paused at 3:38 and might eat my words if you address my point: who even sleeps their Windows - especially their laptops?! Full shutdown and issue irrelevant.
‘But!’ you say. Power-up boot cycle time takes a generation to complete! To which I respond, wake up hang up issues happening regularly enough, which force a full power cycle anyways, with said power cycle involving a *hard* shutdown on top of it all, which is hard on the os.
Also, being a gaming laptop and RoG Ally user, spontaneous sleep wake-up whilst packed away in luggage / stored in carry case (respectively for each) is a fantastic way to smother and destroy your machines.
Sod Windows sleep. No sane person even uses it.
7:38 I also have an M1 Pro Max. Sleep battery drain is a novelty, but to re-iterate the above, for me it is the fact that I can put my Apple to sleep and put it into its hard carry case, without worrying that it will suddenly wake up and overheat out of the blue. Battery life on sleep is just the cherry on top.
apple has been using arm on macs since late 2020
Windows has too much going on and drains the battery when laptop is not in use. Try turning all of those registry services off until the next update. Impossible.
I think you don't understand what the Registry is.
The reason Windows drains the battery is that it wakes up periodically to check for updates, trim the SSD, run malware scans, etc. Mac does the same thing. It is only supposed to do it when plugged in. However, if the computer goes to sleep while plugged in, then gets unplugged it isn't smart enough to stop waking. Mac is smart enough to stop waking. Microsoft has known about the problem for years and chooses not to fix it.
Maybe we need more Arm-based video games. You know, at present, many video games haven't still moved to Arm-based systems. I was never an Apple user, but I'm going to be. Of course I want a more powerful hardware, that's from Apple.
One word: terminal
We often forget how apple silicon was in the same position X Elite laptops are in right now, almost no meaningful app worked, gaming was virtually impossible and the only real feature was the immense battery life. Just gotta wait 2 more years and see how arm based windows faces the future 👌👌
What do you mean? Almost all apps worked day 1 on Apple Silicon. There were some that had issues, but not many.
The difference is that apple replaced the intel with arm. Microsoft just added ARM to the windows platform. At 10.20 he is right. Ms sql server is a stark example for software missing on arm.
For the specific problem this video is describing, Intel was not the problem, it's Windows. It's less bad on Snapdragon, but it's still there.
Seriously - Windows on ARM needs a decent graphics solution for professional use as a compelling platform - Qualcomm are working to address this in newer gen model SoCs. I don't think the upcoming event re M4 based tech is a sign they are fearful of the future - actually it's an expression of confidence from a market leader in that 'ARM SoC' space.
But these laptops are the canary in the mine for x86 architecture imo, rather than Apple specifically.
why the noise of the fans bothers you so much?
This is irrelevant to me - I'll never have any Microsoft products.
Who cares about speakers? Headphones, actual soundbars.. no?
Great 2 sided point of view.
Comparing laptops that are from different yrs isn't a good review. Also, Microsoft didn't make the Snapdragon processor. There is a big advantage Apple has controlling the hardware and software ecosystem to optimize their products. Lots of people fail to appreciate that, especially if they didn't study EE in college or hardware engineering.
You are right. The Mac finder absolutely sucks. I find the Windows environment more productive and the Mac environment most entertaining. For my daily tasks, I just stick to Windows, and for the hobby and part, it is Mac.
Why is he comparing this with M1 chip? There’s M4 already, probably outperforming all of them…
Lunar Lake Surface Pro - get on it.
I don't use a laptop (for a lot of reasons, although primarily because I really don't need one), but if I was going to purchase a laptop, it would more than likely be a Mac. This is because I'm an iPhone/iPad user already (both were gifted to me) but it's also because, after 40+ years of using MS DOS and Windows (pretty much exclusively), I've had *ENOUGH* of Microsoft's shoving garbage at me that I don't need and (therefore) don't want. I've always hated the way they pollute *MY* operating environment with junk features (Edge is but a single glaring example) that I then have to figure out a way to disable or remove, or simply learn to live with.
The last straw for me is this Recall nonsense, because it's yet another example of a feature that I'll never _ever_ use, but also won't be able to get rid of. I'm done: I've paid full retail for every copy of Windows that I've ever installed, and I've been treated like a redheaded stepchild by those fools every step of the way. So it finally dawned on me that there's not much (if anything) that I can't do on a Linux system that I've been doing under Windows for years, and I decided to make the move. Mint Cinnamon edition and Nobara are what I'm starting out with, but I'm looking at other distros as well, and I'm having a damned good time doing it.
I'll keep riding 23H2 until the wheels fall off, but after that I'm getting all things Microsoft the hell out of my ecosystem. 🚮
P/S: /rant **OFF** 😝
That's a completely fair perspective. I hate how many machines I've had to go into and disable all the telemetry etc.
Hopefully the situation will change so it's off by default and maybe we're insentivised to enable? But something tells me that's unlikely 😅 but I've also found using copilot and double checking the answer far quicker than trying to google something lately, especially when you know your answer isn't going to be the immediate google response... So I'm not unhappy with everything new, I've still got a usable search engine 😅
Also, don't forget about the windows key sponsor on the video... Haven't paid full price for longer than I remember and I honestly do trust them with plenty of subscribers praising them.
Hope you're well dude!
@@TechLens Thanks for understanding. 🙏🏼
For a good while I'll be running both platforms in tandem because, although I've known about Linux for a long time, I'm virtually brand new to it (due to never being willing to take the time to learn it before now 🙄). Fortunately for me though it's not _quantum physics,_ and I've picked up enough general computing knowledge over the years to make transitioning to Linux a much less daunting prospect than it used to seem like.
And I'll keep Whokeys in mind. I'm currently in the process of building gaming PCs for my son, daughter, and son-in-law (as well as another one for myself, but for Linux), but the main reason I've always gone the full retail route with Windows is so I can shake my fist at Microsoft and shout, _"I _*_OWN_*_ this piece of software, dammit, so stop fuggin' with it!"_
Stay safe and be well. 😊
EDIT: Damned typos! *_*shakes fist*_*
The problem with windows is windows.
I went for the lenovo yoga slim 7x with 32 gb. It works fine for what I do. I use davinci resolve, affinity and now blender that just announced i an arma version in 4.3 and a plugin to accelerate renders riduculesly fast (so they say haven tried it yet. My office apps and browsers work very well. I don't play games that much.
I was going to get one of those too for this video but the lead time for your model was over 2 months 😳 how do you like it?
Hey! You can confirm to me please that Blander, DaVinci Resolve work well on your Snapdragon Elite? Thanks!
My Lunar Lake xps 13 is ridiculous. Gets like 28 hours of video playback and over 4,000 I'm 3d mark timespy.
Clearly someone here doesnt know that AMD has very good mobile chips.
But since AMD doesnt bribe influencers, unlike intel and ngreedia, you wouldnt know about them.
My 12 month review of swapping to AMD is about 50% complete, likely the next video... Stay tuned.
If you watched the first one, you probably wouldn't write this comment 😅
@@TechLens If that's the case, then this video is even more biased than what I thought, because again, you made it sound like AMD doesn't exist in the mobile market.
It's about a GPUs. Should of mentioned that as your comment made no sense to me until I realized.
Either way, the point is.... When you paint with such a broad brush, you're going to go over the lines and miss.
Apple is way ahead because of TSMC‘s 5 and 3 nm technology. But who in the world really needs all those „portable“ PCs? For most of the people a desktop with large screen would fit much better, Imam sure. But macOS is so ancient, outdated, crypted, chaotic, not intuitive… It needs to be modernized a lot. Just the way of „sharing“ object or they way to print four pages at the right order into a PDF. Nearly impossible to solve right now.
subscribed bc of the cat
DOS and Unix.. Unix is stable,.. DOS is not. It's that simple. Doesnt' mean windows is crashing as much as before, but my MAC doesn't crash. It can, but rare, it's running on top of Unix. Windows biggest problem is how many companies are making computers that suck and that helps windows suck more. It doesn't help that Bill has so much time on his hands that he connects to your computer at night when you're sleeping and you hear the computer cranking. What is he looking for ?
Windows is mostly staying on x86, the pool of arm windows products users is very tiny, the reason why apple was able to do this multiple times (changing architecture), is because they transitioned their entire product lineup to the new stuff, including all the apps that 3th party developers create, they have no choice! Want to release your new app on mac? Better be arm! But, windows? Most used windows devices are x86 based, so, that means that developers have to tailer their app for 2 architectures, which takes a lot of extra resources they could be putting those resources in making their existing apps better. In my opinion is an intel mac more usefull than a new M series macbook, on an intel macbook pro, i can run macos (yes, i know, for now, but that's not the point of my comment), i can run windows, i can run linux, so, no mather what happens, i will be supported. If apple says that your M1 macbook air can't update to the newest os, it will be like the powerpc era, you are virtually stuck, yes, you might be able to run some flavour of linux, but that's not the same, because of the architecture. I think there is still a lot of work to be done before arm becomes a serious contender in the pc space.
I edit 4k video with ease with a samsung galaxy tab S9+ 12 inch tablet that i bought used off ebay for $450. Not even a hiccup. Before that I was using a tab S7 which did stain a little but still got the job done just fine. Laptops are over rated these days unless you're a hard core gamer. Just my opinion
compare them to a m4 MacBook 😊
I dont care about windows operate system so for me apple ecosystem is amazing! period.
Microsoft joins Apple, but still runs Windows? It’s the OS, not just the hardware. Ha.
Why M1?
Because he bought it 3 years ago.
Lenovo Thinkpad - accept no other - lol
apple didn't take any gambles or risk with the M1... they are based off of the iphone CPU/GPU and boosted with some more wattages / cores. Also microsoft are excellently like the windows phone, windows mobile, windows on ARM (the 1st time) are making another fudge. Windows is so complex and so many ways to do 1 thing, its a gold mine for attack vectors. That is if Microsoft replay doesn't upload all your metadata 1st.
Apple have nothing to worry about. Their genius move is the $599 mac mini. Microsofts core business is no longer windows either. SaaS is their game these days. SaaS runs on any platform with a browser. Whoops. That need for "backwards compatibility at all costs is no longer the value it once was.
Having said all of that i am really looking forward to buying an ARM laptop that is not Apple next. It wont have windows on it though. FTR i was a windows dev for 15+ years. PS apple keyboards are amazing? no, lenovo make the class leading keyboards. Remember the butterfly keyboards on macs? Terrible. Apple are good for: battery life at real power levels, trackpads, screens, smaller chassis, rigid unibody construction.