Cave man #1: "Shouldn't we concentrate on Rabbits, deer, fish, and turkeys? Gather some berries?" Cave man #2: "Nah! Let's go after that herd of 20-ton mammoths surrounded by vicious sabre-toothed tigers!! It will be alright!" Cave man #1: "You think we are capable of eating several tons of meat before it spoils?" Cave man #2: "Not my department"
The idea of Atlantis misses the point - it’s not about some mystery place that’s now synonymous with pseudoscience. It’s that cataclysms wiped out probably numerous civilizations or “Atlantises.”
I would love to see a stone Mason commissioned to make an accurate replica of that shist disk. Even with our advanced tech, I think it would be nearly impossible.
@@Leeside999 Bro, have you not seen one of these disks? I'm sure it could be done with a CNC machine, but not with a copper chisel and mallet as Egyptologists try to convince you of.
At 2:01:00 Ben mentions the Suez and Panama canals and laughs at the thought that people in the future wouldn't believe we dug them, yet Ben can't see the irony re the pyramids and the Egyptians in his view. Classic fail Benny lol.
I went and saw Core no7 in real life 4 days ago! I viewed the whole museum through a different lens mostly due to Ben and Mr Dunn. Will be eternally grateful for their work
@@dubselectorr345 I’m sure it was the underground council of archaeologists that saw he was planning a trip. Called Hawas and warned him to shut down all the sites with high tech. Seriously man check out world of antiquity, he has a 3 hour video debunking ben’s video and Ben will not respond
@@dubselectorr345 It is probably done now, like maybe they were fixing the roof and doing some painting, which wouldn't take years. I've never been, so I'm just guessing :)
Egypt is unlike any other trip you will make. After seeing the pyramids you will not be the same person. Because they change your consciousness. Seeing something so grand, massive and surreal calls to something within ourselves. It evokes a feeling we have deep within our hearts - that possibilities are endless. We don’t know how they were built, why they were built or by who. After seeing the pyramids, You will walk away with far more questions than answers, but maybe that’s the point. Seeing something that exists outside the realm of what we perceive as possible ignites a timeless sense of wonder where we tap into everlasting truth - Possibilities Are Endless. No matter how bleak the world becomes, that idea will not be destroyed, just like the pyramids. As long as those pyramids are standing, I will remember that possibilities are endless. It’s been a year since I visited the pyramids and I think about them often. I now see the world differently. I can’t help but compare our modern structures to the megaliths of the past. Our modern buildings feel so careless, cheap and temporary. Walking through the matrix of a modern downtown city, surrounded by concrete and glass boxes, makes me feel temporary and disposable. I feel like an object in a maze of other objects. But when I was touching those pyramids, I felt like I was glimpsing into something that was impenetrable to time. I felt like I could be a part of something that would go on forever. My physical body is so limited, but that is not who I am. I can leave behind ideas that will reverberate through time forever - And through this I know I am eternal.
I patiently await the day I go, within the next year likely. That feeling you describe, I have had since I was 5 years old and learned about the pyramids in an encyclopedia my grandparents had. The answers to those questions are the reason you have that feeling. The truth. The truth most will never accept. I decoded the Philosophers Stone. I am Lightning Rod.
Did you know that the Russians built pyramids, and they modeled them after the Giza pyramids. They even went as far as matching the four corners of their pyramids to the four cardinal directions. These things definitely are not tombs. The team that built them claims, that strange things happened to them while they were in the process of building. Things like weird balls of light surrounding the structure, calm weather, it even does things to food and water that are placed inside. Just imagine a power source, a weather modification mechanism, a food and water cleanser, a teleporting machine, a wireless communicator, and a mechanism that does something to our souls, all in one. Of course the Russians are more openly into occult research than us Americans.
They were built by the glorious son’s of God, as were many monoliths and megaliths around the world, around the same time, I believe. According to the Holy Bible, they were “men of renown”. Read about them in the books of : Genesis Job Ezekiel Revelation These are the Book’s that I know of ~ Soon they will “show” themselves again. BOOK OF REVELATION IS COMING TO PASS
It's comical to see the reaches of just how far the people are willing to go to ignore this evidence and explain it with simple bronze age methods, even though the idea of stone and bronze age origin isn't even supported by any evidence.
Not to be rude here but it kinda seemed like homeboy wasnt all that up to speed on his ancient world knowledge. Ben makes it pretty easy to interview though lol
Cleopatra didn't want to be paraded in Rome in chains by Octavian that's why she did it. And it was Vise who is suspected to have forged the glyphs to prevent his bankruptcy for failing to have made any significant discoveries on his expedition. I am so grateful that we have people like Ben to take up the gauntlet thrown down by Graham Hancock so many years ago.
Yeah, I’m not just Graham Hancock you people forget Billy Carson and Matthew McCoy are huge end of this and definitely making waves. I wish everybody together that way mainstream archaeologist wouldn’t have a choice, but to actually tell the truth
New subscriber to this Channel. Thanks to our host for bringing on Ben Van Kyrkwyk! Thank you, Mr. Van K, for your persistence in the face of the stubborn resistance and hostility of the Mainstream Academics. There are some encouraging signs that more intelligent and curious-minded folk are making the trek to Egypt to see for themselves... structural engineers, architects, bridge builders, scientists, chemists, geologists and many more. Increasingly, these visitors with Specialized Knowledge are looking at the remnants of the ancient world and DISCERNING that the captions and labels in the museum displays were written by people who had NO idea what they were describing. Apart from the frustration with the foot-dragging Egyptologists, It's exhilarating to be alive in this time of awakening.
There is one giant point that I just dont understand. Everybody says 70-80% of Ancient Egypt is still under the sand. So why is there any question "how they did it"? Obviously the machines are under the sand. The desert around is over 150m deep. Why is nobody going there, dig up 1km² of sand and then go on like that until everything is dig up?
You see, I have a little problem with the words "advanced technology". What is advanced? What doe it mean? Better than ours? I like the words "unknown technology" more. If you think like that, it gives more creativity.
Fantastic Mark such awesome footage and what an amazing trip we were on , thanks for reigniting that feeling again such a amazing place to see and touch those monuments in person it is so much more surreal when you are there and yes we do have more questions now after being there than answers 🙂🤙
In mentioning the Suez or Panama canal I think it is important I point out the Grand Canal in China was dug by hand, in prehistory and if one looks it the coastline of China it should also be noted that many earthwork and infrastructure are now long submerged under sea water. Sadly many of the habitable areas of pre-history China exist in vast flood plains, and there have been archeology discoveries under hundreds of feet of silt and sediment.
Graham Hancock has been married to his beloved wife Santha for over 30 years. They have children & grandchildren. Santha is not White. It's preposterous to pin "White supremacist" label on Graham. Especially when none of his work or Santha's work (as a world renowned photographer) has anything at all to do with race. Very little in life has anything to do with race. This constant shoe horning of it into every subject is old. Such a waste of time & energy making everything about race. Anyone who wants to call Hancock a "White supremacist" should be forced to back that up with proof. What statements or action has he taken to make him a "White supremacist"? Exactly. There isn't a single occurrence.
Do you mean like History For Granite? I've listened to that 'historian' misrepresent what Ben has said. When I pointed this out, as well as listed many points of contention with historical record, his response was to attack me and NOT address each point. At some point you get tired of dealing with trolls who are too vapid with their own indoctrination to even have a conversation about it. Who wants to deal with zealots?
I have often wondered if our civilization was being dug up in the future and they find these shrines in peoples homes. A big velvet picture of a guy that was called “The King” and he died but was then seen all over the world. But it was only Elvis 😅
I openly scoff at the dates attributed to archeological sites nowadays. What I don’t think Ben and others understand is the full extent of what they are doing. The system we all live under in the western world was crafted with the belief of judeo-christian hierarchy in mind. As someone who grew-up fully believing the world was created ala Adam and Eve 6,000 years ago, there is very little reason I should support or participate in the current system of socially influenced enslavement in which we are all increasing being forced to live under. Think about that.
Am I missing something Ben, whilst I sit down on an evening with my wife & kids, glued to the TV, to watch all the latest, incredible documentaries from yourself (Ben), Graham Hancock & Mr Carlson, ect, ect.. Then we are all told, expected to believe that a "Platoon" of guys & girls, knocked up all of these absolute jawdropping, miraculous, to the nearest "Flippin" nanometers works of art using only a couple of sticks, a rock & if you we're lucky enough then maybe the odd """"COPPER!!!"""" chisel.!!WHAT???? No kidding mate, what the heck do I tell my kids. Yep. It's True children? I mean Ben, is it TRUE mate? Coz it dont feel right for some reason saying YES. Remarkable human beings those Ancient Egyptians Kids 🤥.
Would you be pleased if Ben gave us a good description of the level of advancement society must have reached in terms of technology for the artefacts and buildings (he believes the Egyptians could not have made) to have been made. In the videos I have seen on the subject, reference is made to laser precision, so for example does he think that they had lasers and computers to guide them, and a power source for both? Do you have a model in your head of what would have been required?
Would you be pleased if Ben gave us a good description of the level of advancement society must have reached in terms of technology for the artefacts and buildings (he believes the Egyptians could not have made) to have been made. In the videos I have seen on the subject, reference is made to laser precision, so for example does he think that they had lasers and computers to guide them, and a power source for both? Do you have a model in your head of what would have been required?
@@simonthorneycroft1339 he does have a video about ancient computers "tongue in cheek" but there would have to be a power source because of the rate of penetration with regards to the tube drills, they are cutting through the materials quicker than we can do it today as evidenced by the spirals on the core's,there was obviously higher technology than we were taught as proven by the (anticathedra device) (spelling mistake) I just think important to have these discussions,,i know he's writing a book at the moment and I can't wait to read it,,do you have any theories about the subject?
@@Dannyfromnewquay I am just curious, but tend not to believe in the notion of an ancient civilisation. It is difficult to assess the claim if there is no clear suggestion as to the type of society that was supposedly making these artefacts. If you are saying that we don't currently have the technology in 2024 to make these cuts, then do you propose that the tube cuts were made by an industrially advanced society which was beyond our current one?
@@Dannyfromnewquay _"but there would have to be a power source because of the rate of penetration with regards to the tube drills, they are cutting through the materials quicker than we can do it today as evidenced by the spirals on the core's"_ That claim is false, bro. Look into it. It's been proven false for years. Search a video "Out-of-place artifact: 100 years of deception" for a thorough debunking. We know how they drilled cores. We can explain every aspect of the marks and we have replicated the process.
@@Leeside999 please provide your sources, because what YOU are implying, I've seen similar "sources" who accomplish cores sure, but forensically they DO NOT resemble markings as tools present on said artifacts.
The biggest human settlements have always been built on the ocean coast for food and resource reasons.. All of the best stuff is under the ocean. Probably some of the best monolithic architecture. But they'd be buried under sediment at this point and it won't be financially feasible to explore during any of our lifetimes...
We also look at our situation and many think we can destroy ourselves, who says an earlier one did not do that to themselves? Always interesting to me that it seems like all the megalithic sites have damage. Could it have been a world-wide disaster? Sure. Could it have been them fighting? I think that is a likely scenario as well. Hard to look back and say everyone before us was just serene and benevolent.
When the first time I went to Stone Henge, I fell on my knees and started crying, it was a subconscious reaction, something in those stones made me feel like I'd lost my home and had just found its remnants. My partner stood by and said 'Never seen in my life somebody crying over stones'. So, I know how Ben felt seeing the pyramids.
Been inside twice. At night. Winter. When no one was there (in the summer there's a night guard etc). The 1st, in the year 2001 and then the second time in 2010, so before the new buildings/museum around there etc. Must say, being alone with the stones at night........my oh my........one can feel the age (among other things) Its seems your eternal self recognises them, for, indeed, it seems, you where there...long ago. Profound reaction. Very hard to explain that to someone that has a small incarnation line upon here (Earth), or, is fairly fresh to being human, plus, might also be closed minded etc "social conditionally programmed to be but a product of their birth country". Theres plenty, PLENTY, of those around😂. Your partner just needs some Ayahuasca😂.
Great podcast. Always enjoy hearing what Ben has to say. Go to Egypt as much as you can while you're young and vigorous. I was able to make 4 trips after I retired but now I am too old and medically challenged to travel there, which from Hawaii is brutal; it as far from Cairo as you can get and still be on the planetary surface.
The sea levels was about 120 meters lower about 12,000 years ago and earlier. This means that the distances between Africa and Australia were then significantly shorter
Subscribing. Ben from UnchartedX is one of my favorite voices on the topic of ancient knowledge. He walks into the monoliths with one word in his head. "How?"
They were built by the glorious son’s of God. According to the Holy Bible, they were here before and after the flood. They were men “of renown”. God be with you.
@@danielfallu5716youre incorrect clearly. Im a huge supporter of real work. Also an engineer. Im sure youd love to downplay that as well. If you refer to high ancient tech as a theory its actually blatantly obvious . Theories are on those who say HOW it was done. Provide where he states this please ?
Have you looked into the stuff Klaus Dona has put out , follows on from Michael Cremos work? When artifacts are being found in multiple million year old rock strata undisturbed it's clear that the recent study estimating pyramids in Giza being 850,000 years old might not be so crazy.
As long as egypt is a tourist trap and hiwass is in charge, there will be no real archeology done. Greed,hubris and ego is the driving force. And that is just sad.
Hey guys, the youtube channel 'Forgotten Origin: The Out of Australia Theory' seems to have a video up talking about it, the video is called 'Gosford Glyphs are Being Destroyed'. And this is a bloddy shame if this is the case. So unfortunately!
Exactly. "YOU need to live in a small home and set your AC above 75!" This coming from people who have MULTIPLE large homes with several AC units..... pools... cars.... boats etc... "It's imperative that we act!!" Yet all they do is attack America or suppress burgeoning countries. But massive polluters like China they won't say a damn thing to. These conmen and mindless activists are disgusting.
Absolutely. On a related note, I stopped taking the "pandemic" seriously when Biden refused to shut down the southern border that was allowing millions of unvaccinated people to enter the country.
why is it that we have to come here to further-pique our interest into Our Past?! why can’t modern Academic Professionals do this in Public or Private schools alike? I have theories & ideas that use terms like: bi+ches, cowards, charlatans, con artist, etc. keep it up, Homies. we’re here for it & we also procreate. there’s more of us than there are & will be of them. the veil has been torched
Cleopatra had a child with Julius Caesar and was in Rome when Caesar was killed. She later took up with Marc Antony, and when the Roman civil war went the way of Octavian, later Augustus, she used the snake to suicide.
Mark Antony and Octavian were vying for control of Rome. Antony needed Egypt on his side. When Octavian's forces arrived Cleopatra committed suicide rather than be captured and humiliated.
It is just fascinating to see what the ancient civilizations did with stone, if they did that with stone, can you imagine what they could do with wood. I would love to go back in time to see what the architecture of their houses looked like. Also for sites like Machu Piccu, I wonder how high the original structures were before the Inca came to build on top of them. It would be interesting to find out if the stone went up to a certain level for a base, and the rest was wood possibly? So many sites you see stones scattered everywhere 100s of yards away, like it was blown down from an event. I’m just waiting for the day that someone at one of these sites discovers some sort of image that illustrates one of these sites before they disappeared.
If you don't look, you won't find anything. There is probably plenty to be found off today's coasts, because the sea level was about 120 meters lower about 12,000 years ago and earlier.
That's what the pyramids were for, to make the people feel as if they were a part of something bigger. I think the energy that may have been produced there could be felt by the people that lived around them, connecting them to the ultimate creative force of the cosmos.
When you were talking about quartz blocks hidden under floor tiles being used for a purpose we don't have the context to understand, it made me think of a video I recently watched on a newly-discovered form of magnetism. ua-cam.com/video/WPfcpHVlYZA/v-deo.html
Tube drills: instead of considering tools harder than the object being worked, you should perhaps imagine that the "technology" was centered in the capability of changing the object's micro structure (e.g., harmonic frequency). This would explain it all, i.e., the scoop marks, the saw marks, the leveling of the outside granite of the pyramids, etc.
I wonder if Musk would throw himself into the area of pyramid production IF it ends up being re-discovered that it is at the heart of nearly endless renewable energy, as speculated by Dunn. It’s an interesting thought at least.
Excellent popdcast until the end. We will not be able to live outside of our magnetosphere. Our bodies depend on it. There is no planet B; Mars and Venus are uninhabitable and even if there was another 'Earth', we could never get there.
It may be that particular area where the cut was made was not hard in the moment of cutting. The heat created by cutting would show at the end of the cut. IE it would not look the same.
Ben is welth of information, regardless of if certain people want to listen or not. He brings solid info to the table. If you understand very small measurements, it becomes mind-blowing to me how granite vases were made to within a few thousandths.
@@Emerild you cant debate someone that isn't open to our opinions or views. Or will not listen to what you have to say. So why entertain it. He doesn't owe anyone anything, he is just doing his own research and helping impart that on others. green with emerald envy you are.
What do you think of the GreatGizaPyramid guy's take? I have great respect for Chris Dunn, but I do think the idea that the entire plateau is tied together is a very good guess. It is at least an interesting conjecture.
Did you know, there are two Welsh historians who accidentally discovered they could read hieroglyphs saying the glyphs in Welsh language. Alan Wilson and Baram Blackett mainly research ancient British history.
How can one tell the age of a hole in a hard stone when you can not carbon date it? Who can tell that these were not done by the Romans or even by Napoleons soldiers when they were there on site? (Some drilled holes look like someone was running amok to test some kind of tool in hard stone.)
What I haven't really seen discussed by the mainstream much yet, is if the Bronze age cultures and predynastic Egyptians were able to create these artifacts and large stone structures, what caused them to stop? What caused the regression in quality of stone work? We have a clear line of progression in our tools and craftsmanship to show how we got where we are now from ~6000 years ago. Yet not a clue about the largest and more complex stone artifacts and structures that are on all but ONE continent... before a global communication network... 🤔
Egypt suffered a number of "dark ages" known as intermediary periods. You'd be wrong to say that there was a regression in stone work over-all. The finest sarcophagai, the largest statues and temples, and the largest obelisks were all made much later in Egyptian history.
Check out the view from the rest area at the north end of Mount Mee Rd in Queensland, looking east. The three pyramids on the plain below are unmistakable. This is only 1 hour from Brisbane.
I think there was a group or society, you can call it Atlantis but the name isnt important, they visited different civilizations and were like builders. They came and built, got paid and left. Like an old construction corp
25:55 i dont agree, i can think of many things we create that has lost its quality over the years. Most of the things we use in our daily life is cheap china knock offs, back before this everything was quality american made.
10:35 the simple explanation of how the Tiwanaku could support itself would be if someone could investigate and perhaps prove that it rose incredibly fast within the last 11000 years (like 8000 feet or what) and such insane possibility would help support another possibility of Atlantis sinking the same amount down, during some inconceivable cataclysmic event. Sounds insane, but if it could be proven by some stone properties or what, why not try it?
Do we think that there's was a land mass round the back of the world ( pacific ), as I call it? Would that explain how folk could have managed to travel to Easter Island 1000s of years ago?
If it is a spiral groove in the tube cuts, then you also have the problem of how you get the cutting grit out as you go deeper? You would think the vases were done on lathes, but those damn handles completely screw up that theory. How do you cut the intermediate area with the same precision?
Would you be pleased if Ben gave us a good description of the level of advancement society must have reached in terms of technology for the artefacts and buildings (he believes the Egyptians could not have made) to have been made. In the videos I have seen on the subject, reference is made to laser precision, so for example does he think that they had lasers and computers to guide them, and a power source for both? Do you have a model in your head of what would have been required?
@Emerild why tf are you still watching the videos then lmfaoo Edit: There is so much evidence you need to be blind asf to say he has nothing lol, look at how many subs and views Randal, Ben, Graham, snake bros get. Clearly alot of people believe what they're saying. Rtrd
Hey all ! I love all that Ben is doing and absolutely appreciate and enjoy all of his podcasts etc...but my one question relating specifically to machining in the past is what powered these tools...electricity as we know it or some other form of force ?
Could you please increase the volume level as you record. I can always turn it down. At full volume the slightest background noise drowns you out. Thank you and I love your shows.
My word Ben, guys, Im/we are all stunned as per usual pal. So then its mike & classmates🙃 again. Ben. Its fantastic to not only see, but also hear the bangin news that yourself & your teams great work has at last been analysed/measured under the highest quality & impirical level of precision that we have available to us in the 21st Century. What the h**l next m8? It stood up to the f****n lot. Ye Old Seadog's 👈 Ex Royal Navy 🤟 Lol Way to go guy's 😉
Keep on hunting, Ben, I look forward to the day you can present your first bit of actual evidence of lost ancient high technology. 👍 In the meantime, I appreciate the video journalism.
But they don't say it's strictly linear. It ebbs and flows. There were a series of "dark ages" in ancient Egyptian history. As there was a dark age in Europe.
@@Leeside999 but all that must take place after 5 to 6 thousand years ago. What about all the rising and falling before then? The Mainstream civilizations cycle has to begin in Sumer and not before. All those thousands of years before (we) people like me and you today, no different, were always primitive Hunters and Gatherers for like 800,000 years? We need to give our Ancestors more credit from the deep deep past. Great Civilizations rose and fell and were lost to time and this cycle will repeat and probably soon. If we don't realize it is the case. But your welcome to your opinion and belief in what the Mainstream is offering.
@@RebootingHistoryz It's not just about a "belief in the mainstream". It's about evidence. We can speculate all we want about what could have happened. But until we find evidence then all we are doing is fantasizing.
@@Leeside999 yep. we don't have "evidence" of copper saws and tube drills either, but you sure love to spam these comments saying "that's how it was done". funny how that works, isn't it?
@@AustinKoleCarlisle You know very well that we have found traces of copper/bronze and various abrasives in saw marks and tube drill holes. And we have replicated the process with these materials and produced the same striations. I've told you this countless times. I'll post the evidence again for others as I know it's of no use to you. At Giza, Petrie noticed green staining on the sides of some Fourth Dynasty saw-cuts in stone, which he ascribed to bronze, but was more likely to have been copper in the Fourth Dynasty. (W.M.F. Petrie, Tools and Weapons, London: British School of Archaeology in Egypt, 1917, p. 174.) Tubular drill marks exist on a block of stone from the Fifth Dynasty complex of Nyuserre, which bears traces of verdigris left from the use of a copper drill-tube. (L. Borchardt, Das Grabdenkmal des Königs Ne-User-Re, Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1907, p. 142) Alfred Lucas examined a hole made by a tubular drill in a fragment of alabaster (CM JE65402), of Third Dynasty date, from the Step Pyramid at Saqqara. In the hole, there was a compact mass of what was almost certainly the abrasive powder of a light green colour. The powder consisted of naturally rounded, very fine grains of quartz sand, and the colour was due to a copper compound, evidently from the drill used. (A. Lucas and J.R. Harris, Ancient Egyptian Materials and Industries, London: Edward Arnold, 1962. p. 74) Also at Saqqara, Lucas examined a large drill core about 8 cm in diameter, of coarse-grained red granite with green patches on the outside from the copper of the drill. ((A. Lucas and J.R. Harris, Ancient Egyptian Materials and Industries, London: Edward Arnold, 1962. p. 69) G.A. Reisner found fine gritty powder, tinged green, in holes made by a tubular drill in two unfinished Fourth Dynasty stone artifacts. In a hole drilled by a tube into a granite doorpost of Ramesses II (MMA 13.183.2) are minute bronze particles. (G.A. Reisner, Mycerinus, the Temples of the Third Pyramid at Giza, Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1931. p. 69) Scientific analysis identified the material as a mixture of predominant angular grains of corundum with jagged edges and a few other minerals such as quartz, rutile, feldspar, apatite, ilmenite, augite, biotite, and chromite, usually smaller in size and with high angularity. Very fine particles of calcite surround the bigger particles, which are most likely remains of the indurated limestone that had been drilled. Several particles of corroded bronze and green copper corrosion products are intimately dispersed among the above-mentioned particles, imparting the light green color. The remains at the bottom of the drill hole consist of a mixture of the abrasive, the powdered limestone, and corroded fragments of the bronze drilling tool. Carò, Federico & Serotta, Anna. (2014). Evidence for the use of corundum abrasive in Egypt from the Great Aten Temple at Amarna. Horizon.
Clues say, Gisa project was cancelled @ 10000bc, and the unfinished obilisk is actually the obselete obilisk . Wasn't needed, so the builders took their equipment and left...
Yeah bro, you could easily kill a mammoth with a regular hunting rifle, 223, 3030, 270, 30-06 no problem. A larger caliber gun is just quicker and more humane. If you can stick a few good sized spears in a mammoth, you can keep him moving until he pumps enough blood out of his body to pass out. Bipedal humans are built for endurance. Once he's been stuck a few good times, they just chase them around for a day or two and eat for a month... Of course, that's not to say we hunted them to extinction that's nonsense. The Younger Dryas killed those things just like it killed most humans. There was an even worse bottleneck than that in the human genome though I think 70k years ago or something i don't remember. Surely for other animals as well.
Cleopatra killed herself by clasping an asp to her breast after her and Mark Anthony's fleet was defeated by Octavian (Ausustus Caesar) This was because she had fled home after the battle and it was either commit suicide or be extradited to Rome to be crucified.
Cave man #1: "Shouldn't we concentrate on Rabbits, deer, fish, and turkeys? Gather some berries?"
Cave man #2: "Nah! Let's go after that herd of 20-ton mammoths surrounded by vicious sabre-toothed tigers!! It will be alright!"
Cave man #1: "You think we are capable of eating several tons of meat before it spoils?"
Cave man #2: "Not my department"
😂🔥
One method of preservation was to sink the carcass in a cold lake.
The idea of Atlantis misses the point - it’s not about some mystery place that’s now synonymous with pseudoscience. It’s that cataclysms wiped out probably numerous civilizations or “Atlantises.”
I would love to see a stone Mason commissioned to make an accurate replica of that shist disk. Even with our advanced tech, I think it would be nearly impossible.
Bro, have you not ever seen what a skilled artist can do with stone?
@@Leeside999 Bro, have you not seen one of these disks? I'm sure it could be done with a CNC machine, but not with a copper chisel and mallet as Egyptologists try to convince you of.
@@gregsmith7949 You would chisel, scrape at and abrade the stone to whatever shape you want and then polish it. Schist is not a "hard stone".
Historian?
The wet lettuce guy interviewing Ben is about as exciting as burnt toast.
Wet lettuce on burnt toast sounds interesting tho
At 2:01:00 Ben mentions the Suez and Panama canals and laughs at the thought that people in the future wouldn't believe we dug them, yet Ben can't see the irony re the pyramids and the Egyptians in his view. Classic fail Benny lol.
Was actually going to make the same point.
I went and saw Core no7 in real life 4 days ago! I viewed the whole museum through a different lens mostly due to Ben and Mr Dunn. Will be eternally grateful for their work
Did you see any of the other cores? I think that’s the only one ever shown by the lost ancient tech guys.
Funny, when Ben went there, the museum was "closed for renovation" . . .
@@dubselectorr345 I’m sure it was the underground council of archaeologists that saw he was planning a trip. Called Hawas and warned him to shut down all the sites with high tech. Seriously man check out world of antiquity, he has a 3 hour video debunking ben’s video and Ben will not respond
@@dubselectorr345 It is probably done now, like maybe they were fixing the roof and doing some painting, which wouldn't take years. I've never been, so I'm just guessing :)
@andymccracken4046 yeah just funny how that happened.
Egypt is unlike any other trip you will make. After seeing the pyramids you will not be the same person. Because they change your consciousness. Seeing something so grand, massive and surreal calls to something within ourselves. It evokes a feeling we have deep within our hearts - that possibilities are endless.
We don’t know how they were built, why they were built or by who. After seeing the pyramids, You will walk away with far more questions than answers, but maybe that’s the point. Seeing something that exists outside the realm of what we perceive as possible ignites a timeless sense of wonder where we tap into everlasting truth - Possibilities Are Endless. No matter how bleak the world becomes, that idea will not be destroyed, just like the pyramids. As long as those pyramids are standing, I will remember that possibilities are endless.
It’s been a year since I visited the pyramids and I think about them often. I now see the world differently. I can’t help but compare our modern structures to the megaliths of the past. Our modern buildings feel so careless, cheap and temporary. Walking through the matrix of a modern downtown city, surrounded by concrete and glass boxes, makes me feel temporary and disposable. I feel like an object in a maze of other objects. But when I was touching those pyramids, I felt like I was glimpsing into something that was impenetrable to time. I felt like I could be a part of something that would go on forever. My physical body is so limited, but that is not who I am. I can leave behind ideas that will reverberate through time forever - And through this I know I am eternal.
I patiently await the day I go, within the next year likely. That feeling you describe, I have had since I was 5 years old and learned about the pyramids in an encyclopedia my grandparents had. The answers to those questions are the reason you have that feeling. The truth. The truth most will never accept. I decoded the Philosophers Stone. I am Lightning Rod.
Did you know that the Russians built pyramids, and they modeled them after the Giza pyramids. They even went as far as matching the four corners of their pyramids to the four cardinal directions. These things definitely are not tombs. The team that built them claims, that strange things happened to them while they were in the process of building. Things like weird balls of light surrounding the structure, calm weather, it even does things to food and water that are placed inside. Just imagine a power source, a weather modification mechanism, a food and water cleanser, a teleporting machine, a wireless communicator, and a mechanism that does something to our souls, all in one. Of course the Russians are more openly into occult research than us Americans.
Bollocks
That was beautifully written. This popped up on my feed and I saw Ben here. Subscribed!! Thank you. This was a great show.
They were built by the glorious son’s of God, as were many monoliths and megaliths around the world, around the same time, I believe.
According to the Holy Bible, they were “men of renown”.
Read about them in the books of :
Genesis
Job
Ezekiel
Revelation
These are the Book’s that I know of ~
Soon they will “show” themselves again.
BOOK OF REVELATION IS COMING TO PASS
It's comical to see the reaches of just how far the people are willing to go to ignore this evidence and explain it with simple bronze age methods, even though the idea of stone and bronze age origin isn't even supported by any evidence.
Not to be rude here but it kinda seemed like homeboy wasnt all that up to speed on his ancient world knowledge. Ben makes it pretty easy to interview though lol
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Cleopatra didn't want to be paraded in Rome in chains by Octavian that's why she did it. And it was Vise who is suspected to have forged the glyphs to prevent his bankruptcy for failing to have made any significant discoveries on his expedition. I am so grateful that we have people like Ben to take up the gauntlet thrown down by Graham Hancock so many years ago.
Yeah, I’m not just Graham Hancock you people forget Billy Carson and Matthew McCoy are huge end of this and definitely making waves. I wish everybody together that way mainstream archaeologist wouldn’t have a choice, but to actually tell the truth
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Thank you, Mr. Van K, for your persistence in the face of the stubborn resistance and hostility of the Mainstream Academics. There are some encouraging signs that more intelligent and curious-minded folk are making the trek to Egypt to see for themselves... structural engineers, architects, bridge builders, scientists, chemists, geologists and many more.
Increasingly, these visitors with Specialized Knowledge are looking at the remnants of the ancient world and DISCERNING that the captions and labels in the museum displays were written by people who had NO idea what they were describing.
Apart from the frustration with the foot-dragging Egyptologists, It's exhilarating to be alive in this time of awakening.
There is one giant point that I just dont understand. Everybody says 70-80% of Ancient Egypt is still under the sand. So why is there any question "how they did it"? Obviously the machines are under the sand. The desert around is over 150m deep. Why is nobody going there, dig up 1km² of sand and then go on like that until everything is dig up?
The Egyptian authorities don’t allow anyone to explore!!
You see, I have a little problem with the words "advanced technology". What is advanced? What doe it mean? Better than ours?
I like the words "unknown technology" more.
If you think like that, it gives more creativity.
Fantastic Mark such awesome footage and what an amazing trip we were on , thanks for reigniting that feeling again such a amazing place to see and touch those monuments in person it is so much more surreal when you are there and yes we do have more questions now after being there than answers 🙂🤙
Any normal person would. Lot of sheep out there.
In mentioning the Suez or Panama canal I think it is important I point out the Grand Canal in China was dug by hand, in prehistory and if one looks it the coastline of China it should also be noted that many earthwork and infrastructure are now long submerged under sea water. Sadly many of the habitable areas of pre-history China exist in vast flood plains, and there have been archeology discoveries under hundreds of feet of silt and sediment.
cool story bro got the grit to make a video on it? otherwise stfu
Graham Hancock has been married to his beloved wife Santha for over 30 years. They have children & grandchildren. Santha is not White. It's preposterous to pin "White supremacist" label on Graham. Especially when none of his work or Santha's work (as a world renowned photographer) has anything at all to do with race. Very little in life has anything to do with race. This constant shoe horning of it into every subject is old. Such a waste of time & energy making everything about race. Anyone who wants to call Hancock a "White supremacist" should be forced to back that up with proof. What statements or action has he taken to make him a "White supremacist"? Exactly. There isn't a single occurrence.
fantastic video, when you look at the evidence as a whole, the case for a lost ancient civilization is so strong.
For me accepting the reality of the high tolerance stone vases compels me to view all of our prehistory through a different lens.
This guy is a grifter. He shadow bands people for pointing out facts that contradicts his nonsense.
I don't think an individual content creator has the power to shadowban someone. That sounds more like an algorithm thing.
Do you mean like History For Granite? I've listened to that 'historian' misrepresent what Ben has said. When I pointed this out, as well as listed many points of contention with historical record, his response was to attack me and NOT address each point. At some point you get tired of dealing with trolls who are too vapid with their own indoctrination to even have a conversation about it. Who wants to deal with zealots?
learn to properly argue and maybe people would take you more seriously.
Whew 😅 putting in some hard work for this one Ben! And just great storytelling and delivery of fact + mystery as always!
I have often wondered if our civilization was being dug up in the future and they find these shrines in peoples homes. A big velvet picture of a guy that was called “The King” and he died but was then seen all over the world. But it was only Elvis 😅
Please go to the Ellora caves, amazing ruins. Very little investigation.
Wow. I've never heard of the Ellora caves. The photos look incredible.
I openly scoff at the dates attributed to archeological sites nowadays. What I don’t think Ben and others understand is the full extent of what they are doing. The system we all live under in the western world was crafted with the belief of judeo-christian hierarchy in mind. As someone who grew-up fully believing the world was created ala Adam and Eve 6,000 years ago, there is very little reason I should support or participate in the current system of socially influenced enslavement in which we are all increasing being forced to live under. Think about that.
@@clifforddaniels1317 _"I openly scoff at the dates attributed to archeological sites nowadays."_
Even the ones that have been carbon dated?
@@Leeside999 i said, I openly scoff at the dates attributed to archeological sites nowadays….. take it or leave it.
@@clifforddaniels1317 I asked a simple question. Do you also scoff at dates attributed to sites that have been carbon dated?
HAS ANYONE INVESTIGATED THE METAL DUST PITS THAT ARE SCATTERED ABOUT IN EGYPT, LIKE OLD FARM MACHINES THAT GET LEFT TO ROT ?
GO FOR IT, LET US KNOW HOW IT GOES
@@donatedflea spent all my money on drugs, someone else will have to investigate, I'm happy in my armchair.
Am I missing something Ben, whilst I sit down on an evening with my wife & kids, glued to the TV, to watch all the latest, incredible documentaries from yourself (Ben), Graham Hancock & Mr Carlson, ect, ect..
Then we are all told, expected to believe that a "Platoon" of guys & girls, knocked up all of these absolute jawdropping, miraculous, to the nearest "Flippin" nanometers works of art using only a couple of sticks, a rock & if you we're lucky enough then maybe the odd """"COPPER!!!""""
chisel.!!WHAT????
No kidding mate, what the heck do I tell my kids. Yep. It's
True children?
I mean Ben, is it TRUE mate? Coz it dont feel right for some reason saying YES. Remarkable human beings those Ancient Egyptians Kids 🤥.
Maybe engage with some of the counter arguments before you tell your kids anything this guys says.
@Leeside999 yeah they're all quite unintelligent...
@@dubselectorr345which ones? Can you be more specific?
Would you be pleased if Ben gave us a good description of the level of advancement society must have reached in terms of technology for the artefacts and buildings (he believes the Egyptians could not have made) to have been made.
In the videos I have seen on the subject, reference is made to laser precision, so for example does he think that they had lasers and computers to guide them, and a power source for both?
Do you have a model in your head of what would have been required?
What do you think about the idea that the Egyptians cut the vents from the King's chamber up to the outside?
It is pretty neat stone cutting.
I love Ben's UA-cam channel "UNCHARTEDX" it's taught me so much
Would you be pleased if Ben gave us a good description of the level of advancement society must have reached in terms of technology for the artefacts and buildings (he believes the Egyptians could not have made) to have been made.
In the videos I have seen on the subject, reference is made to laser precision, so for example does he think that they had lasers and computers to guide them, and a power source for both?
Do you have a model in your head of what would have been required?
@@simonthorneycroft1339 he does have a video about ancient computers "tongue in cheek" but there would have to be a power source because of the rate of penetration with regards to the tube drills, they are cutting through the materials quicker than we can do it today as evidenced by the spirals on the core's,there was obviously higher technology than we were taught as proven by the (anticathedra device) (spelling mistake) I just think important to have these discussions,,i know he's writing a book at the moment and I can't wait to read it,,do you have any theories about the subject?
@@Dannyfromnewquay I am just curious, but tend not to believe in the notion of an ancient civilisation.
It is difficult to assess the claim if there is no clear suggestion as to the type of society that was supposedly making these artefacts.
If you are saying that we don't currently have the technology in 2024 to make these cuts, then do you propose that the tube cuts were made by an industrially advanced society which was beyond our current one?
@@Dannyfromnewquay _"but there would have to be a power source because of the rate of penetration with regards to the tube drills, they are cutting through the materials quicker than we can do it today as evidenced by the spirals on the core's"_
That claim is false, bro. Look into it. It's been proven false for years. Search a video "Out-of-place artifact: 100 years of deception" for a thorough debunking.
We know how they drilled cores. We can explain every aspect of the marks and we have replicated the process.
@@Leeside999 please provide your sources, because what YOU are implying, I've seen similar "sources" who accomplish cores sure, but forensically they DO NOT resemble markings as tools present on said artifacts.
There's some good sonar maps of the ancient Amazon river delta that's underwater. Def had people there before.
The biggest human settlements have always been built on the ocean coast for food and resource reasons.. All of the best stuff is under the ocean. Probably some of the best monolithic architecture. But they'd be buried under sediment at this point and it won't be financially feasible to explore during any of our lifetimes...
Thanks for taking the time to explain more fully, very interesting
To think that academics get huge grants for doing a lot less than you...
You think this guy isn't making money from all of this? Check the price of his tours.
They uphold the established story and are tasked to ADD to it. Not deviate or think otherwise
@@dubselectorr345adding to/ and updating what we already know is a bad thing?
Have you a better suggestion for how research should be done?
We also look at our situation and many think we can destroy ourselves, who says an earlier one did not do that to themselves? Always interesting to me that it seems like all the megalithic sites have damage. Could it have been a world-wide disaster? Sure. Could it have been them fighting? I think that is a likely scenario as well. Hard to look back and say everyone before us was just serene and benevolent.
When the first time I went to Stone Henge, I fell on my knees and started crying, it was a subconscious reaction, something in those stones made me feel like I'd lost my home and had just found its remnants. My partner stood by and said 'Never seen in my life somebody crying over stones'. So, I know how Ben felt seeing the pyramids.
Been inside twice. At night. Winter. When no one was there (in the summer there's a night guard etc). The 1st, in the year 2001 and then the second time in 2010, so before the new buildings/museum around there etc. Must say, being alone with the stones at night........my oh my........one can feel the age (among other things)
Its seems your eternal self recognises them, for, indeed, it seems, you where there...long ago.
Profound reaction.
Very hard to explain that to someone that has a small incarnation line upon here (Earth), or, is fairly fresh to being human, plus, might also be closed minded etc "social conditionally programmed to be but a product of their birth country". Theres plenty, PLENTY, of those around😂. Your partner just needs some Ayahuasca😂.
We split up soon after😆@@MrDometheo79
i once kissed a skull that predates modern maori in NZ dug up by a friend archeologist. it was a subconscious reaction. cant explain it.
Great podcast. Always enjoy hearing what Ben has to say.
Go to Egypt as much as you can while you're young and vigorous. I was able to make 4 trips after I retired but now I am too old and medically challenged to travel there, which from Hawaii is brutal; it as far from Cairo as you can get and still be on the planetary surface.
Atlantis existed more than once at different points throughout history
Beautiful! Loved listening to this ❤
Great work Ben, Thanks!
My dude gotta let people know when you do stuff found this few day late.
Bro this is the definitive collab
If Egypt doesn't change its view they will end up with even more egg on there face.
Egypt to Australia via boat is a long voyage tho there is only 300 kilometres of open ocean to cross
The sea levels was about 120 meters lower about 12,000 years ago and earlier. This means that the distances between Africa and Australia were then significantly shorter
Subscribing.
Ben from UnchartedX is one of my favorite voices on the topic of ancient knowledge.
He walks into the monoliths with one word in his head.
"How?"
And doesn't spit theories and muddy the whole research.
They were built by the glorious son’s of God. According to the Holy Bible, they were here before and after the flood.
They were men “of renown”.
God be with you.
@@dubselectorr345yes he does
@@danielfallu5716youre incorrect clearly. Im a huge supporter of real work. Also an engineer. Im sure youd love to downplay that as well. If you refer to high ancient tech as a theory its actually blatantly obvious . Theories are on those who say HOW it was done. Provide where he states this please ?
Have you looked into the stuff Klaus Dona has put out , follows on from Michael Cremos work? When artifacts are being found in multiple million year old rock strata undisturbed it's clear that the recent study estimating pyramids in Giza being 850,000 years old might not be so crazy.
Ben, get out of California and come to Texas!
As long as egypt is a tourist trap and hiwass is in charge, there will be no real archeology done. Greed,hubris and ego is the driving force. And that is just sad.
Hey guys, the youtube channel 'Forgotten Origin: The Out of Australia Theory' seems to have a video up talking about it, the video is called 'Gosford Glyphs are Being Destroyed'. And this is a bloddy shame if this is the case. So unfortunately!
When the Davos crowd gives up their private jets I might start taking climate change more seriously.
Exactly. "YOU need to live in a small home and set your AC above 75!" This coming from people who have MULTIPLE large homes with several AC units..... pools... cars.... boats etc... "It's imperative that we act!!" Yet all they do is attack America or suppress burgeoning countries. But massive polluters like China they won't say a damn thing to. These conmen and mindless activists are disgusting.
Absolutely. On a related note, I stopped taking the "pandemic" seriously when Biden refused to shut down the southern border that was allowing millions of unvaccinated people to enter the country.
why is it that we have to come here to further-pique our interest into Our Past?! why can’t modern Academic Professionals do this in Public or Private schools alike? I have theories & ideas that use terms like: bi+ches, cowards, charlatans, con artist, etc. keep it up, Homies. we’re here for it & we also procreate. there’s more of us than there are & will be of them. the veil has been torched
The KGB Project Orion leaked documents explains a lot of this technology great for further 'understanding'
Ben is great.
Cleopatra had a child with Julius Caesar and was in Rome when Caesar was killed. She later took up with Marc Antony, and when the Roman civil war went the way of Octavian, later Augustus, she used the snake to suicide.
Mark Antony and Octavian were vying for control of Rome. Antony needed Egypt on his side. When Octavian's forces arrived Cleopatra committed suicide rather than be captured and humiliated.
My favorite part of hearing Ben talk about Egypt is the way he says “geezer”
🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️my favorite part is the information, wtf are u talkin
@@PimentoCat”wtf are you talkin” …. Weren’t you in my undergrad language/English class? You graduated Magna Cum Laude right?
@@PimentoCat👍
It is just fascinating to see what the ancient civilizations did with stone, if they did that with stone, can you imagine what they could do with wood. I would love to go back in time to see what the architecture of their houses looked like. Also for sites like Machu Piccu, I wonder how high the original structures were before the Inca came to build on top of them. It would be interesting to find out if the stone went up to a certain level for a base, and the rest was wood possibly? So many sites you see stones scattered everywhere 100s of yards away, like it was blown down from an event. I’m just waiting for the day that someone at one of these sites discovers some sort of image that illustrates one of these sites before they disappeared.
Just brilliant! Love how Ben articulates his expertise !
There is also dozens of sunken cities in the Mediterranean they found them in the 70s
If you don't look, you won't find anything. There is probably plenty to be found off today's coasts, because the sea level was about 120 meters lower about 12,000 years ago and earlier.
That's what the pyramids were for, to make the people feel as if they were a part of something bigger. I think the energy that may have been produced there could be felt by the people that lived around them, connecting them to the ultimate creative force of the cosmos.
Really enjoyed this! Happily subbed to Ben & will be a regular listener
When you were talking about quartz blocks hidden under floor tiles being used for a purpose we don't have the context to understand, it made me think of a video I recently watched on a newly-discovered form of magnetism. ua-cam.com/video/WPfcpHVlYZA/v-deo.html
Tube drills: instead of considering tools harder than the object being worked, you should perhaps imagine that the "technology" was centered in the capability of changing the object's micro structure (e.g., harmonic frequency). This would explain it all, i.e., the scoop marks, the saw marks, the leveling of the outside granite of the pyramids, etc.
They used copper tubes and abrasives like quartz sand and corundum.
in theory. wanna try prove it?
I wonder if Musk would throw himself into the area of pyramid production IF it ends up being re-discovered that it is at the heart of nearly endless renewable energy, as speculated by Dunn. It’s an interesting thought at least.
Supposedly went to the moon?? Don’t go down that rabbit hole. We went.
Excellent popdcast until the end. We will not be able to live outside of our magnetosphere. Our bodies depend on it. There is no planet B; Mars and Venus are uninhabitable and even if there was another 'Earth', we could never get there.
You know nothing about that.
defeatist take. look at the tech leap from internet to AI. tell me again we cant fake a magnetosphere and travel fast in future. go go go .....
It may be that particular area where the cut was made was not hard in the moment of cutting. The heat created by cutting would show at the end of the cut. IE it would not look the same.
Ben is welth of information, regardless of if certain people want to listen or not. He brings solid info to the table. If you understand very small measurements, it becomes mind-blowing to me how granite vases were made to within a few thousandths.
you say hes a wealth of knowledge but he refuses to debate becauae he loses the very few debates he has found himself in.
It’s all bs. Mental illness is contagious.
a better education would help you to obtain your own WEALTH lol
@@Emerild you cant debate someone that isn't open to our opinions or views. Or will not listen to what you have to say. So why entertain it. He doesn't owe anyone anything, he is just doing his own research and helping impart that on others. green with emerald envy you are.
@donatedflea You fling insults as does a bitter child. Enough with you.
What do you think of the GreatGizaPyramid guy's take? I have great respect for Chris Dunn, but I do think the idea that the entire plateau is tied together is a very good guess. It is at least an interesting conjecture.
Bs
Did you know, there are two Welsh historians who accidentally discovered they could read hieroglyphs saying the glyphs in Welsh language. Alan Wilson and Baram Blackett mainly research ancient British history.
And geopolymers. Paul Cook has a UA-cam channel that has some great videos about some other interesting ideas!!!
Its so weird the moon titan had dinosaurs that turned the entire moon to fossil fuels.
How can one tell the age of a hole in a hard stone when you can not carbon date it? Who can tell that these were not done by the Romans or even by Napoleons soldiers when they were there on site? (Some drilled holes look like someone was running amok to test some kind of tool in hard stone.)
What I haven't really seen discussed by the mainstream much yet, is if the Bronze age cultures and predynastic Egyptians were able to create these artifacts and large stone structures, what caused them to stop?
What caused the regression in quality of stone work?
We have a clear line of progression in our tools and craftsmanship to show how we got where we are now from ~6000 years ago. Yet not a clue about the largest and more complex stone artifacts and structures that are on all but ONE continent... before a global communication network... 🤔
Great question
This knowledge was washed from our brains 😔 throuht centuries and education sistem
A global cataclysm so thoroughly destroyed them and the intervening millennia of decay and pillaging left only the megalithic buildings.
Egypt suffered a number of "dark ages" known as intermediary periods.
You'd be wrong to say that there was a regression in stone work over-all.
The finest sarcophagai, the largest statues and temples, and the largest obelisks were all made much later in Egyptian history.
My theory is that they inherited special tools from the "first time" and when those tools were eventually worn out they couldn't repair them.
Check out the view from the rest area at the north end of Mount Mee Rd in Queensland, looking east. The three pyramids on the plain below are unmistakable. This is only 1 hour from Brisbane.
Great Show!
Do the timelines of these various construction methods align throughout the world?
I think there was a group or society, you can call it Atlantis but the name isnt important, they visited different civilizations and were like builders. They came and built, got paid and left. Like an old construction corp
the lost tribes of Israel.
25:55 i dont agree, i can think of many things we create that has lost its quality over the years. Most of the things we use in our daily life is cheap china knock offs, back before this everything was quality american made.
Or that both high quality and low quality industries can't exist simultaneously in a given society. We see that today also.
You have a beautiful smile After Skool guy!
Two of my favorite channels!
10:35 the simple explanation of how the Tiwanaku could support itself would be if someone could investigate and perhaps prove that it rose incredibly fast within the last 11000 years (like 8000 feet or what) and such insane possibility would help support another possibility of Atlantis sinking the same amount down, during some inconceivable cataclysmic event. Sounds insane, but if it could be proven by some stone properties or what, why not try it?
Do we think that there's was a land mass round the back of the world ( pacific ), as I call it? Would that explain how folk could have managed to travel to Easter Island 1000s of years ago?
Have you ever seen the papyrus pillars at Temple of Khnum? They're astonishing.
And about the laser's? Is there any evidence that the eyes from are ancient had laser's installed?
Johanna James has a more in depth video on the shist disk that blew my mind... I completely agree that this " vase" was a tool
If it is a spiral groove in the tube cuts, then you also have the problem of how you get the cutting grit out as you go deeper?
You would think the vases were done on lathes, but those damn handles completely screw up that theory. How do you cut the intermediate area with the same precision?
Today we would do it with a mill turn or a turning center machine. It's both a mill and a lathe. It's wild
Ben is the man. Been following him for years and still cant get enough. Good going gentlemen!
Would you be pleased if Ben gave us a good description of the level of advancement society must have reached in terms of technology for the artefacts and buildings (he believes the Egyptians could not have made) to have been made.
In the videos I have seen on the subject, reference is made to laser precision, so for example does he think that they had lasers and computers to guide them, and a power source for both?
Do you have a model in your head of what would have been required?
I followed him for years to. Then realized he had nothin. Hope you realize, to.
@Emerild why tf are you still watching the videos then lmfaoo
Edit: There is so much evidence you need to be blind asf to say he has nothing lol, look at how many subs and views Randal, Ben, Graham, snake bros get. Clearly alot of people believe what they're saying. Rtrd
@@dillydilly2196 this video came up in my feed. Bens dont any longer.
try not to underestimste the ancient builders, is all I'll say.
@@dillydilly2196exactly lol
Hey all ! I love all that Ben is doing and absolutely appreciate and enjoy all of his podcasts etc...but my one question relating specifically to machining in the past is what powered these tools...electricity as we know it or some other form of force ?
Could you please increase the volume level as you record. I can always turn it down.
At full volume the slightest background noise drowns you out.
Thank you and I love your shows.
Install the free "Stereo Tool" audio processing software at your computer and you can adjust the maximum audio level as you wish.
you need to get amplified speakers you muppet. dont blame ben. fucking turn it up. fuckwit.
I want to see Billy Carson speak with the likes of Ben, Jimmy etc.
My word Ben, guys,
Im/we are all stunned as per usual pal. So then its mike & classmates🙃
again. Ben.
Its fantastic to not only see, but also hear the bangin news that yourself & your teams great work has at last been analysed/measured under the highest quality & impirical level of precision that we have available to us in the 21st Century.
What the h**l next m8? It stood up to the f****n lot.
Ye Old Seadog's 👈
Ex Royal Navy 🤟
Lol
Way to go guy's 😉
Keep on hunting, Ben, I look forward to the day you can present your first bit of actual evidence of lost ancient high technology. 👍 In the meantime, I appreciate the video journalism.
Nerdrotic shoutout!? Subbed
Awesome!
The Mainstreams biggest fail is the idea that history is strictly linear and not cyclical.
But they don't say it's strictly linear. It ebbs and flows. There were a series of "dark ages" in ancient Egyptian history. As there was a dark age in Europe.
@@Leeside999 but all that must take place after 5 to 6 thousand years ago.
What about all the rising and falling before then?
The Mainstream civilizations cycle has to begin in Sumer and not before.
All those thousands of years before
(we) people like me and you today, no different, were always primitive Hunters and Gatherers for like 800,000 years?
We need to give our Ancestors more credit from the deep deep past.
Great Civilizations rose and fell and were lost to time and this cycle will repeat and probably soon. If we don't realize it is the case.
But your welcome to your opinion and belief in what the Mainstream is offering.
@@RebootingHistoryz It's not just about a "belief in the mainstream". It's about evidence. We can speculate all we want about what could have happened. But until we find evidence then all we are doing is fantasizing.
@@Leeside999 yep. we don't have "evidence" of copper saws and tube drills either, but you sure love to spam these comments saying "that's how it was done". funny how that works, isn't it?
@@AustinKoleCarlisle You know very well that we have found traces of copper/bronze and various abrasives in saw marks and tube drill holes. And we have replicated the process with these materials and produced the same striations. I've told you this countless times.
I'll post the evidence again for others as I know it's of no use to you.
At Giza, Petrie noticed green staining on the sides of some Fourth Dynasty saw-cuts in stone, which he ascribed to bronze, but was more likely to have been copper in the Fourth Dynasty.
(W.M.F. Petrie, Tools and Weapons, London: British School of Archaeology in Egypt, 1917, p. 174.)
Tubular drill marks exist on a block of stone from the Fifth Dynasty complex of Nyuserre, which bears traces of verdigris left from the use of a copper drill-tube.
(L. Borchardt, Das Grabdenkmal des Königs Ne-User-Re, Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1907, p. 142)
Alfred Lucas examined a hole made by a tubular drill in a fragment of alabaster (CM JE65402), of Third Dynasty date, from the Step Pyramid at Saqqara. In the hole, there was a compact mass of what was almost certainly the abrasive powder of a light green colour. The powder consisted of naturally rounded, very fine grains of quartz sand, and the colour was due to a copper compound, evidently from the drill used.
(A. Lucas and J.R. Harris, Ancient Egyptian Materials and Industries, London: Edward Arnold, 1962. p. 74)
Also at Saqqara, Lucas examined a large drill core about 8 cm in diameter, of coarse-grained red granite with green patches on the outside from the copper of the drill.
((A. Lucas and J.R. Harris, Ancient Egyptian Materials and Industries, London: Edward Arnold, 1962. p. 69)
G.A. Reisner found fine gritty powder, tinged green, in holes made by a tubular drill in two unfinished Fourth Dynasty stone artifacts. In a hole drilled by a tube into a granite doorpost of Ramesses II (MMA 13.183.2) are minute bronze particles.
(G.A. Reisner, Mycerinus, the Temples of the Third Pyramid at Giza, Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1931. p. 69)
Scientific analysis identified the material as a mixture of predominant angular grains of corundum with jagged edges and a few other minerals such as quartz, rutile, feldspar, apatite, ilmenite, augite, biotite, and chromite, usually smaller in size and with high angularity. Very fine particles of calcite surround the bigger particles, which are most likely remains of the indurated limestone that had been drilled. Several particles of corroded bronze and green copper corrosion products are intimately dispersed among the above-mentioned particles, imparting the light green color. The remains at the bottom of the drill hole consist of a mixture of the abrasive, the powdered limestone, and corroded fragments of the bronze drilling tool.
Carò, Federico & Serotta, Anna. (2014). Evidence for the use of corundum abrasive in Egypt from the Great Aten Temple at Amarna. Horizon.
Oh man it’s a good thing Ben’s a good talker lol I wish I had the ability to ask questions cuz boy I have a lot!
Thank you so much.
Clues say, Gisa project was cancelled @ 10000bc, and the unfinished obilisk is actually the obselete obilisk . Wasn't needed, so the builders took their equipment and left...
Yeah bro, you could easily kill a mammoth with a regular hunting rifle, 223, 3030, 270, 30-06 no problem. A larger caliber gun is just quicker and more humane. If you can stick a few good sized spears in a mammoth, you can keep him moving until he pumps enough blood out of his body to pass out. Bipedal humans are built for endurance. Once he's been stuck a few good times, they just chase them around for a day or two and eat for a month... Of course, that's not to say we hunted them to extinction that's nonsense. The Younger Dryas killed those things just like it killed most humans. There was an even worse bottleneck than that in the human genome though I think 70k years ago or something i don't remember. Surely for other animals as well.
Excellent interview. Thanks .
A Question for Ben - Given the Stryation Marks - Does it follow that a microscopic analysis should reveal particles of the the drill/saw composition?
Another core was analysed and they found traces of copper and abrasives like corundum and quartz.
@@Leeside999 not all cores are the same, just like vases. why are you disingenuous?
@@AustinKoleCarlisle Why are you still believing in fantasies?
@@Leeside999 are you implying all vases are the same?
@@AustinKoleCarlisle What do you mean by "same"?
Cleopatra killed herself by clasping an asp to her breast after her and Mark Anthony's fleet was defeated by Octavian (Ausustus Caesar) This was because she had fled home after the battle and it was either commit suicide or be extradited to Rome to be crucified.
Ben is second only to Rogan when it comes to podcasts , legends.