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  • (99) What if that fridge got buried in a landslide? Is he trapped forever? What a nightmare.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 472

  • @josephvoskuhl878
    @josephvoskuhl878 Рік тому +795

    *Video Starts*
    "Whats your favorite flavor of glue?"
    "I was more of a paper eating kid."
    This... this is what I want from my patreon support.

    • @GhostBear3067
      @GhostBear3067 Рік тому +49

      Surprised he did not fire back with asking the Marine what his favorite crayon was. I hear the blue ones are too tart.

    • @Sephiroth391
      @Sephiroth391 Рік тому +17

      @@GhostBear3067 I... I Understood that reference.

    • @a.grimes4202
      @a.grimes4202 Рік тому +8

      “Germalgebra” had me fucking dying *💀☠️😂🤣*

    • @GhostBear3067
      @GhostBear3067 Рік тому +10

      @Sephiroth391 well about bloody time someone did, been dropping that reference at just about every opportunity and nobody gets it.

    • @a.grimes4202
      @a.grimes4202 Рік тому +8

      @@Sephiroth391 As did I.

  • @kireta21
    @kireta21 Рік тому +391

    Unfun fact: modern fridges use magnets instead of normal closing mechanism because of kids who would lock themself in discarded fridges and suffocate before someone found them.

    • @christiankneupper7011
      @christiankneupper7011 Рік тому +20

      wasn't there a Sonic Sez PSA about not playing in abandoned fridges? Or was it washing machines?

    • @alekz8580
      @alekz8580 Рік тому +12

      ​@@christiankneupper7011it was dryers

    • @Moonhermit-
      @Moonhermit- Рік тому

      Is it coincidence that the amount of morons seems to have increased since those times?
      I'd say it was a massive mistake to switch to magnets. Too many goddamn fridge-crawlers walking around today, both on the streets and in Congress.

    • @lornbaker1083
      @lornbaker1083 Рік тому +5

      this goes all the way back to like kids tv shows such as punky brewster no less. the swap to magnetic sealed fridges was a brilliant move.

    • @malice926
      @malice926 Рік тому +8

      @@lornbaker1083 Other than quality issues with the seals and magnets. Namely their longevity. Like the lightbulb, it may be another thing on the planned obsolescence pile.

  • @sl1ck557
    @sl1ck557 Рік тому +459

    The fact they actually had multiple dialogue options depending on the time of day is actually kind of cool.

    • @ayumikuro3768
      @ayumikuro3768 Рік тому +43

      Too bad the quest shouldn't exist.

    • @scottmacgregor3444
      @scottmacgregor3444 Рік тому +7

      If only they'd had multiple voice actors for the NPCs in the quest.

    • @alexanderchristie9623
      @alexanderchristie9623 Рік тому +1

      If only the fallout world wasn't 200 years and was more like 20

    • @garyslayton8340
      @garyslayton8340 Рік тому +1

      ​@@alexanderchristie9623fallout 76 is fun

  • @calebbones6502
    @calebbones6502 Рік тому +221

    The parents talked about the doors to shelter closing as they were getting there. When the bombs were dropping the kid was getting in the fridge. I can only assume this means the parents were 100% willing to abandon their kid to nuclear bombs and probably also the reason they weren’t willing to travel 500 meters to try and find him

    • @suntiger745
      @suntiger745 Рік тому +44

      It was saturday when the bombs fell, so he might have been out playing, or on his way to a friend.
      On the other hand, we don't have to rationalize it too hard. This quest is a silver age comic book story: Start with an implausible event to get people hooked, then introduce a villain, and resolve it before dinner. ;)

    • @mmiller9533
      @mmiller9533 Рік тому +19

      This quest also makes no sense in the lore as we have other characters who were kids when the bombs fell that turned into ghouls and became adults

    • @ihategoo8907
      @ihategoo8907 Рік тому +16

      ⁠@@mmiller9533 and also in fallout new Vegas, when you find that ghoul who’s in the basement at REPCON he was talking about eating Radroch and licking condensation off the pipe to survive. So ghouls need to eat and drink

    • @ohyeahbonsai
      @ohyeahbonsai Рік тому +6

      @@ihategoo8907they don’t need to I think most just assume

    • @calebbones6502
      @calebbones6502 Рік тому +11

      @@mmiller9533 true and ever since the first game it has been established that ghouls do in fact need food and water to survive. a lot of fallout 4 ignores old lore and almost feels like fanfic

  • @ohyeahbonsai
    @ohyeahbonsai Рік тому +273

    Based off the fact they were in the military Im not surprised they were particular to office supplies

    • @raymondhamill6702
      @raymondhamill6702 Рік тому +10

      Mike was a Marine, Zach was Army

    • @GhostBear3067
      @GhostBear3067 Рік тому +23

      Considering Mike is a Marine I do sometimes wonder what his favorite color of crayon was, I hear the blue ones are too tart.

    • @a.grimes4202
      @a.grimes4202 Рік тому +3

      Nothing will ever be funnier than pica!

    • @EVAASIVEOne
      @EVAASIVEOne Рік тому +7

      @@GhostBear3067 this isnt an open mic night, I promise you dont have to spread the same Marines eat crayons joke on every comment

    • @ohyeahbonsai
      @ohyeahbonsai Рік тому +13

      @@EVAASIVEOne let me guess, orange?

  • @LifelessTooth
    @LifelessTooth Рік тому +123

    That first story reminds me a lot of how completely pointless it is to hold students to the whole "bell" thing so strictly. One time I slept through my alarm and had to rush to school while there was still barely a minute for the bell. I ran from the parking lot to my classroom and got there right as the final bell rang, only for the massive bitch of a teacher to say "Nope! You got here a split second after it rang, so go down to the office to get a tardy slip!" Instead of missing _literally one second_ of classtime, I had to spend 10 minutes walking down to the office so I could be insulted by the people at the desk for not being on time, and rejoin the class in the middle of a lesson without knowing what I was supposed to do now.
    None of it makes any goddamn sense and it's one of the experiences that will stick with me for the rest of my life.

    • @Kaarl_Mills
      @Kaarl_Mills Рік тому +28

      On a personal level, it's that teacher being a dick. But on a systemic level, it's a means intentionally or otherwise condition kids for life in the military or prison

    • @suntiger745
      @suntiger745 Рік тому +7

      All in all, a pretty good preparation for the work life after school. If you get a bad manager/boss.

    • @Akira.0.
      @Akira.0. Рік тому +18

      ​@@suntiger745a system that gets you used to unfair treatment so you don't complain 😅

    • @shorewall
      @shorewall Рік тому

      The Public School System is archaic. It isn't needed anymore. We have the internet where you can get a better education than any school.

    • @Zach_Hazard
      @Zach_Hazard Рік тому +19

      Behold: the zero-tolerance policy!

  • @samuelcouey8946
    @samuelcouey8946 Рік тому +66

    Deacon would absolutely disguise himself as one of your loved ones just to mess with you.

  • @calebchristensen8207
    @calebchristensen8207 Рік тому +80

    I never realized that Joshua Graham was Billy's father. Neat.

    • @SsjRedneck
      @SsjRedneck Рік тому +14

      I assume you mean the Voice Actor but if so that's really cool

  • @kin2skyrim
    @kin2skyrim Рік тому +134

    "I was more of a paper eating kid"
    me too mike, me too

  • @AmariFukui
    @AmariFukui Рік тому +144

    My big problem with this ghoul thing is that somehow his parents in over 200 years never got the bright idea to go looking for him
    200 years in which if Billy had heard their voices would have called out from inside that fridge, it would take a minute to inspect that thing
    That and the fact the gunners just kind of seem to trail you and ask permission to take them away after you visit, like there's no delay to it they just immediately show up to get the ghouls when you find them like they were watching you the whole time

    • @DocTraubo
      @DocTraubo Рік тому +34

      The whole quest is stupid as frick. I bet it was the writer's first work, then he/she died the next day in an accident at the studio and Bethesda had to keep it to honour him/her.
      It's the only logical reason.

    • @nido1047
      @nido1047 Рік тому +20

      @@DocTraubo
      or bethesda doesn't know how to write stories

    • @nap0038
      @nap0038 Рік тому +8

      I’m thinking Quincy was always a hotbed for trouble post war. Nevermind whatever wildlife might’ve gotten them if they strolled out, raiders, gunners and whoever else could’ve occupied the place overtime. Shelter is shelter afterall, and Quincy is pretty well-preserved.
      That being said, the Minutemen had the place to themselves for a while, so I’m surprised they didn’t find the Peabody’s and offered to help find their son IF they thought he was alive. Hell, how haven’t the Gunners found the ghouls as well after taking the Minutemen’s place???

    • @xyvxyethe5584
      @xyvxyethe5584 Рік тому +1

      it's a great quest, keep typing.

    • @AmariFukui
      @AmariFukui Рік тому +14

      @@xyvxyethe5584 I mean hey glad you enjoyed it at least
      In my opinion this quest originally was about a kid hiding from the gunner slavers after being seperated from his family but someone at the office told them "Nono have them be from 200 years ago like the main character, people will care more about them this way" and they wouldn't take "No" for an answer on that last minute suggestion

  • @cragnorthegoblinking4269
    @cragnorthegoblinking4269 Рік тому +23

    Zach doesn't realize that the ghoul on black mountain could have been just like Dean Domino and have been like "I have no clue if I need to eat, I just do so I make sure I don't die."

    • @stephano1019
      @stephano1019 7 місяців тому +2

      I can also see they do it to keep themselves sane as if they don't the hunger and thirst may make them go crazy and also rot the brain as given what the human brain is made of it make sense why you would feel the hunger and thirst.

  • @cryspy2248
    @cryspy2248 Рік тому +84

    The worst part about this quest is that Billy 100% should've gone feral. We know that, even in instances in fallout 4, that ghouls will go feral, even around other people. Plus, people can barely go 3 DAYS alone much less 200 years.

    • @shorewall
      @shorewall Рік тому +11

      Yeah, a human brain would have gone insane over 200 years of solitary confinement. Now add that to a ghoul that has a higher chance of going insane, or feral.

    • @plantainsame2049
      @plantainsame2049 Рік тому +9

      What about the Guy who got buried alive in the classic games was he faral
      We don't know how that process worked No one does it's intentionally vague

    • @plantainsame2049
      @plantainsame2049 Рік тому +1

      ​@@shorewallActually they Have a lower chance if you think about how many goddamn raiders there are, it's just that Is humans Die quicker

    • @Lux-fe6fd
      @Lux-fe6fd Рік тому +7

      Billy probably wound up hibernating in there. We’ve seen something similar before with Coffin Willy, who was apparently buried alive outside New Reno and left for at least a month.

    • @ceu160193
      @ceu160193 Рік тому +1

      Maybe children just less susceptible to process, that makes ghouls feral. And you underestimate how long people can be alone.

  • @jet2550
    @jet2550 Рік тому +46

    Zach finding possibly one of the best pieces of legendary armor in the game, and then immediately losing it without bursting into pure rage has got to make him the most hinged Fallout player ever.
    Wait, now that I think about it, how the hell did Zach so nonchalantly sell a child into slavery, didn't he say something about the Legion's slavery?

    • @chriskoloski32
      @chriskoloski32 Рік тому

      I think Zachs moral compass is all kinds of messed up. I mean he helped a cult that kidnaps random people they believe are robots when they're only correct like 10% of the time

    • @silentassason
      @silentassason Рік тому +3

      Time machine for funzies

    • @300IQPrower
      @300IQPrower Рік тому +9

      it doesnt count when the writing is this bad

    • @Akira.0.
      @Akira.0. Рік тому

      ​@300IQPrower when the writing is this bad, it's no longer "child" but it's "child in a game that has no repercussion"

  • @schalkengelbrecht7859
    @schalkengelbrecht7859 Рік тому +58

    Just a warning - if you give followers the cryolator or wounding weapons the NPCs that respawn can bug out and be stuck in a state where they can't move.

  • @thaguy69
    @thaguy69 Рік тому +3

    Ghouls don't die from old age (as far as we know) because the radiation inhibits cell growth/division. They get their "nutrition" from radiation (hence them gathering around radiation sources) and most just eat and drink out of habit and for psychological comfort.
    The real dumb parts of it are:
    1)His parents never bothered to check down the street.
    2) Him stepping out into the sun should have hurt or blinded him.
    3) Him moving around perfectly fine. Even putting aside muscle atrophy, his joints would be fucked.
    4) Nobody helping him for 200 years is beyond absurd when he's between University Point, Quincy, and Jamaica Plaine.

  • @appsmasher7932
    @appsmasher7932 Рік тому +18

    11:36
    Zach is correct! William Salyers is also the voice of Sam Guevenne in Skyrim, Hoffman in Back 4 Blood, and Mordin Solus in Mass Effect 3.

    • @erikbukovac5944
      @erikbukovac5944 Рік тому +2

      mordin? i would have never guessed its the same voice actor

  • @brunokopte1347
    @brunokopte1347 Рік тому +12

    "Germalgebra!" has to enter the next No Context compilation.

  • @LEXXIUS
    @LEXXIUS Рік тому +67

    I kind of have the feeling the parents knew the kid was in the fridge and they chose not to release him. How else would they miss that fridge 250 m away from their home WHILE LIVING THERE FOR 200 YEARS

    • @plantainsame2049
      @plantainsame2049 Рік тому +4

      Fun fact the world map is compressed Because video game

  • @DanteTorn
    @DanteTorn Рік тому +21

    Zach going up to Deacon and being like "huuug" is the most confusingly out of character moment and it's breaking my brain.

    • @firebert123
      @firebert123 Рік тому +8

      no, no, it's perfectly in character for Zach. he will break his own rules for himself to mildyly annoy someone else lol

  • @Darumaster
    @Darumaster Рік тому +1

    Harland, a ghoul in Fallout NV: "I'm not delicate. Radroach meat for protein, condensation off the pipes for water, and I do my business over in the far corner. I wouldn't say it's been comfy."
    So yeah, the definitely do need all dat. Not to mention you occasionally see ferals eating corpses, clearly not just living off of radiation.

  • @richardmarois4203
    @richardmarois4203 Рік тому +4

    I just thought of a way that this could have made this quest make sense, you put the kid in South Boston High School, turn the raider's there into ghouls add some radiation, a basement that is full of things like radroaches, mole rats, and then things that feed on them like radscorpions and giant ants. Then have Billy trapped with an old Mr.Handy who has been giving him irradiated water because his water condenser can't filter the rads any more. And the kid ask for help via the school's intercom, then have it play out like it would when you rescue him.

    • @shorewall
      @shorewall Рік тому +1

      That's actually pretty cool.

  • @ohyeahbonsai
    @ohyeahbonsai Рік тому +80

    Billy has a strange parallel to the sole survivor
    -Climbed in a cold restrained space to escape the bombs
    -Lost family
    -Found family after being helped by strange new people
    -Eventually has a showdown against those that harmed his family
    Billy is the child sole survivor

  • @Scuzz1204
    @Scuzz1204 Рік тому +45

    Just gonna state it, Coffin Willie Fallout 2. Ghoul locked in a coffin for an unknown amount of time (long enough to be an estranged father and have a faded sign atleast), no food no water no oxygen.

    • @chriskoloski32
      @chriskoloski32 Рік тому +15

      Thank you. I hate how much people forget that ghouls are basically immortal from natural causes of death and have to be actively killed. Let's not forget Harold too, the ghoul with the tree that basically messed up his insides

    • @delta2372
      @delta2372 Рік тому +13

      Fallout has always been loose with lore when it comes to ghouls, in the first two games the ghouls were all survivors of the war that weren't "lucky" enough to be put in vaults or had access to a bomb shelter.
      Then they get crazy powers like the coffin incident or the fridge kid and anyone can become a ghoul through large amounts of radiation exposure.

    • @Scuzz1204
      @Scuzz1204 Рік тому +14

      @@chriskoloski32 Harold is a special case, since he’s technically an FEV mutant (only one of his kind) but overall evidence suggests ghouls can survive off near nothing but radiation. Only having to eat and drink because they feel they have to/want to, not because they need to. Lucky Lou and Dean both back this theory up. My guess is Pavlovian Conditioning.

    • @fareflight2029
      @fareflight2029 Рік тому +12

      I mean that also didn't make sense, and Fallout 2 is know for jokey, non-sensical plots that are either refrences to pop-culture or just a joke. Either way a ghoul being stuck in a small fridge makes no sense and it was clearly written as a joke quest. I just chalk it up as being non-canon and leave it there. Not only is the kid in a fidge thing nonsensical, but why would no one have freed him in 200 years when he's stuck in a fridge next to a major road.

    • @serPomiz
      @serPomiz Рік тому +6

      there's a lot of unspoken details in ghouls depiction. the main point, as we can found some into 200+ lock-down facilities, is that feral at the very least, and normal in both willie and this kid case, hibernates

  • @librarianseth5572
    @librarianseth5572 Рік тому +22

    That turkey makes me really happy. I like any mod that adds new creatures to the fallout universe. Please, someone needs to mod some dodos or irradiated iguanas into the game, just really crazy stuff.

    • @suntiger745
      @suntiger745 Рік тому

      There's a Costa Rica mod that is in progress that has iguanas. They are really neat. :)

  • @KenjiIchijou
    @KenjiIchijou Рік тому +67

    Honestly for Ghouls, it's probably one of three: 1) They still get hungry and thirsty but don't strictly *need* to eat and drink, so it's psychosomatic, 2) They only need to eat and drink if they're somewhere with low radiation and/or they're doing a lot of physical activity. (Watching for nightkin and patrolling, yes- sitting in a fridge or a submarine, not as much), or 3) It depends on the person and method of ghoulification.
    Personally, I think it's a combination of the first two. Realistically, it's probably shitty/inconsistent writing.

    • @claytopolis
      @claytopolis Рік тому +12

      There is the incident in fallout 2 i think where a ghoul was buried alive in a coffin for a month and survived. Some people think that ghouls can enter a hibernation state. would also explain the ghouls locked inside buildings and such still being alive

    • @Eugene_of_Theodoro
      @Eugene_of_Theodoro Рік тому +7

      Also the whole thing with whether or not ghouls need to eat or drink has been a nebulous in fallout even before Bethesda owned the ip.

    • @claytopolis
      @claytopolis Рік тому +6

      @@Eugene_of_Theodoro I always thought it was more force of habit if anything since they all were human once. Even feral ghouls eat things because its the most basic instinct we all have. Trying to learn to live without it would probably be like kicking an addiction. A really strong one too

    • @silentassason
      @silentassason Рік тому

      The 3rd one might be a mutation of ghoulification. I mean Psychers exist so why not mutant ghouls as well

    • @plantainsame2049
      @plantainsame2049 Рік тому +2

      Realistically, it's very consistent writing in one of the original games A character gets buried alive

  • @TheSimmr001
    @TheSimmr001 Рік тому +35

    i think this is one of those "is it just after the bombs fell or 200 years after the bombs fell" that Fallout 3 and 4 have. where they haven't decided the timeframe of the game and just make quests for both. theirs a bunch of quests that make more sense if it was set 20-30 years later. hell, the glowing sea makes more sense.

  • @josephparks7628
    @josephparks7628 Рік тому +16

    I thought they were gonna cut to Preston saying he has another settlement for them to help and Zach was just gonna start screaming xD

  • @aviatorengineer3491
    @aviatorengineer3491 Рік тому +33

    I don't have issues with the fact that he survived in there for 200 years, ghouls have never really followed "reasonable" biology anyway. But he definitely would have lost his mind unless he was in some form of hibernation for most of that time. Also I love how Zach says "the door just fell off" as if he didn't hit it with a 40mm grenade just moments ago.
    This quest reminded me of how much I resent the fact that every female Ghoul in Fallout 4 uses the same exact voice.

    • @thebigidea9659
      @thebigidea9659 Рік тому +4

      OK but how does the child or anyone for that matter not go insane after being trapped in a cramped fridge for 200 years? The boy would have gone feral or just stopped thinking after the first month or so.

    • @dennisthefivestarman8177
      @dennisthefivestarman8177 Рік тому

      @@thebigidea9659it’s a fucking video game, a video game that features immortal ghouls, super mutants, death claws, oh and i don’t know synthetic fucking humans. Have some realization this game isn’t realistic

    • @aviatorengineer3491
      @aviatorengineer3491 Рік тому +1

      @@thebigidea9659 I already mentioned that.

    • @Akira.0.
      @Akira.0. Рік тому +2

      ​@@thebigidea9659and also, 200 years and that fridge is perfect, still locked. 200 years and apparently thousands of different scavengers hasn't tried to open it. 70000 days

    • @shorewall
      @shorewall Рік тому

      @@Akira.0. For real, even just scavving for food or parts.

  • @librarianseth5572
    @librarianseth5572 Рік тому +16

    The ghoul gene must be in the family's DNA, so they all ended up surviving the blast

    • @plantainsame2049
      @plantainsame2049 Рік тому

      Or cathalu set this all up because it's f****** funny. And that Is my theory we have evidence of elder gods

    • @65firered
      @65firered Рік тому

      Apparently their genes give them the ability to live without the basic necessities other ghouls need.

  • @danielshapiro7169
    @danielshapiro7169 Рік тому +8

    Zach, I think “One Point Safe” means that one of the explosive panels/lenses/whatever can detonate (for whatever reason) and the warheads will not produce a nuclear ‘yield’. It is particularly difficult in physics packages that use “two point implosion”, like our atomic artillery shells. (One point is 50% of the points…) Still, I approve of you doing your part to verify the safety of our Enduring Stockpile!

    • @Zach_Hazard
      @Zach_Hazard Рік тому +2

      One of the great things about having ADHD is you can remember all sorts of things.
      One of the shit things about ADHD is sometimes your brain remembers it poorly. As a joke.

    • @danielshapiro7169
      @danielshapiro7169 Рік тому

      @@Zach_Hazard I hear that! It’s nice to know that there’s at least one more person with a similar set of quirks? “special skills”? out there… Thought I was the only one who would go all Rain Man and spout gun/ nuclear weapon facts… You’re doing God’s Work, Zach, /s. Keep it up! (Love the channel, btw.)

  • @dr.bright6272
    @dr.bright6272 Рік тому +5

    I remember in 5th grade biting a hole in the bottom of my math book. We had paper cover math books and I was really hungry so I closed it, put it in my mouth and slowly bit through the bottom of it. Later I realized I had eaten all the page numbers on it

  • @18videowatcher41
    @18videowatcher41 Рік тому +2

    Honestly, his comments about it being bright and not having seen the sun make sense even if it’s cloudy and raining, because you have to remember he’s been in utter darkness for at least 200 years.

  • @DOOOOOMGAR
    @DOOOOOMGAR Рік тому +36

    Nah, the quest with the ship ontop of a building is a better quest.

    • @alphariusomegon3965
      @alphariusomegon3965 Рік тому +3

      That one is fun plus you get a mobile canon as a reward.

    • @delta2372
      @delta2372 Рік тому +3

      Eh, games shit either way, with the occasional fun quest in there.

    • @MassiveMaleMonkey
      @MassiveMaleMonkey Рік тому +1

      true

    • @big_tymerro
      @big_tymerro Рік тому +4

      That quest is genuinely fun and actually makes more sense than this!

    • @metronicmagician1816
      @metronicmagician1816 Рік тому +2

      I do love the dumb quests in this game. Helps give the wasteland that “am I on drugs” feeling of it being wild.

  • @kassandraofodyssey6475
    @kassandraofodyssey6475 Рік тому +4

    Fun fact: Not only did William Salyers voice Rigby and Bullet, but also Reverend Putty from Moral Orel, almost every drunken NPC (most notably Brenuin) from Skyrim, and some Turians and Salarians from the Mass Effect trilogy.

  • @starblast16
    @starblast16 Рік тому +1

    This quest is a good example of why I believe Bethesda doesn't give a shit about Fallout, they only care about the money it makes them.

  • @PumpkinPain
    @PumpkinPain Рік тому +4

    "Are you sure this is the way" right after stepping on a mine lmao

  • @durandol
    @durandol Рік тому +4

    Oh course Billy's alive. Kids are immortal in Bethesda Fallout, remember?

  • @Cai_Mao
    @Cai_Mao Рік тому +17

    I can't wait to see these two do the USS Constitution quest

    • @ScumClassWorks
      @ScumClassWorks Рік тому

      Uh, they did. A long time ago.

    • @Cai_Mao
      @Cai_Mao Рік тому

      @@ScumClassWorks are you sure? because I didn't see them do it yet

  • @formerctgovernordannelmall1452

    The fact that they had multiple dialogue options but he STILL says that it’s bright regardless of the time makes it feel like that alternate line was written specifically to spite them for asking 😂

    • @niklausvenzendt
      @niklausvenzendt Рік тому

      Zach: I wonder if he'll still say it's bright at night
      Billy: Well yes, but actually no

  • @Umbra_Ursus
    @Umbra_Ursus Рік тому +42

    Random detail on this lobotomite-written quest: Bullet specifically lists that ghouls don't need to eat, which could line up with Fallout 1, New Vegas, and 4 itself showing ghouls need water. The problem then becomes that Billy is *still* a massive middle finger to all forms of logic, Fallout's or otherwise.

    • @tinaherr3856
      @tinaherr3856 Рік тому +13

      Granted, in Fallout 2, there are multiple cases where Ghouls are mistaken for corpses, and are buried/entombed without waking up. Like Lenny's father, who is buried alive for a long time, and walks out like nothing happened after the Chosen One digs up the grave.

    • @Scuzz1204
      @Scuzz1204 Рік тому +12

      @@tinaherr3856 also can’t forget Yangtze prison camp or the numerous feral ghouls jn locked rooms. Ghouls really don’t need to eat or drink at all. I know Lou comments on how he doesn’t think he has to eat/drink just conditioned to do so. Which would make sense

    • @tinaherr3856
      @tinaherr3856 Рік тому +6

      @@Scuzz1204 yeah, that's true. I have a theory that Ghouls can use radiation as a substitute to actual food and water.

    • @patchmoulton5438
      @patchmoulton5438 Рік тому +2

      @@tinaherr3856 Theory? I forgot the name of the perk but it lets you heal from radiation and it kinda confirms gouls dont need food and water. At least, according to FO4.

    • @tinaherr3856
      @tinaherr3856 Рік тому

      @@patchmoulton5438 the perk never specified that you don't need to eat/drink to survive. Fallout games never take eating into account, except on Survival mode

  • @thegentlemanpirate13
    @thegentlemanpirate13 Рік тому +2

    I mean, one possible explanation for the ghouls and eating could be as simple as "they don't need the sustenance, but keeping up old habits keeps the brain from going feral".

  • @PunkRaider
    @PunkRaider Рік тому +4

    I THINK that ghouls can enter a long state of hibernation until they get roused from sleeping so that might explain why he's not insane cause he was sleeping most of that time and woke up a handful of times

  • @gameroxi
    @gameroxi Рік тому +1

    The whole "eating a test out of spite" thing reminded me of one time in 2nd grade I asked to use the bathroom, was denied, and just stared my teacher down and wetted myself

  • @beneckendorff9256
    @beneckendorff9256 Рік тому +15

    You guys need to try the Borchardt C-93 Mod for fallout 4. I think it’s a really cool pistol mod that Zach will find very interesting.

  • @Twelvegage30
    @Twelvegage30 Рік тому +2

    One thing that Mike kept bringing up about starvation with the kid or the sub captain, I don't even know if Ghouls need to eat, even Dean Domino wasn't even sure if he still needed to eat to survive.

  • @MemeFiendd
    @MemeFiendd Рік тому +4

    Supposedly there is a liquid with enough oxygen that one can breathe in it, formerly used as an interrogation torture tool because when you breathe it in first your body thinks it is drowning and the act of trying to breathe liquid is very hard and painful, but you never actually drown. i assume eating and drinking for ghouls is like that where its extremely painful because you are so used to eating knowing that if you dont you will die, but if you actually tried to push through the pain you would never die from it.

  • @doctorgothicc
    @doctorgothicc Рік тому +2

    Speaking of eating paper, one time I was taking a physics test in highschool and I was so stressed out I ate my equation sheet while sobbing and I had to pathetically ask my teacher for a new set of equations

    • @shorewall
      @shorewall Рік тому

      I felt bad for you, but I also felt an intense sense of schadenfreude reading your comment. :D

  • @mairaineplayzgames2205
    @mairaineplayzgames2205 Рік тому +3

    Billy the kid, a reference to indiana jones surviving a nuclear blast in a LEAD LINED fridge! neat!
    10:58 is noone thinking about oxigen? that kid would have suffocated withing 3 days! Ghouls do need oxigen!

    • @plantainsame2049
      @plantainsame2049 Рік тому

      Superman rules as long as he has radiation he needs nothing else

  • @CashHaley-q2l
    @CashHaley-q2l Рік тому +2

    Bro i love these dudes, shit is funny asf and i fw the stories. Love this channel so glad and random found it one day.

  • @chriswhitmer183
    @chriswhitmer183 Рік тому +1

    You're not playing right unless you sell him, save him, and get a reward from his parents, too! Cool vid.

    • @shorewall
      @shorewall Рік тому +1

      Bargain for a higher payment, sell him, save him, and extort his parents. All to make up for the absurdity of the quest. They are lucky I don't paint the walls with their brains. ...Oh wait, I can do that after they pay me. :D

    • @chriswhitmer183
      @chriswhitmer183 Рік тому

      @@shorewall you get me, stranger.

  • @nathanford2072
    @nathanford2072 Рік тому +1

    That kid watched an indiana jones movie and somehow got stuck in the fridge.

  • @domination1985
    @domination1985 Рік тому +1

    How did he not go insane in the fridge for that long

  • @Okil_Atlas
    @Okil_Atlas Рік тому +6

    Ah yes! The quest wrote by Adam Smithy, the lead quest designer of most of fallout 4's quest. But, seriously I will always remember the reason for fallout 4 having so many shitty and random quests. "We learned from eldern scrolls and earlier fallout games that players tend to skip long dialog heavy quests. So favored short ans action he as quests to keep players engaged".

  • @HawkTheRed
    @HawkTheRed Рік тому +1

    all legendary videos start with such legendary questions
    "What's your favorite flavor of glue?"
    Scholars will be pondering this question for years to come

  • @RyanKing00
    @RyanKing00 Рік тому +2

    Hey Mike, Zach, I know you probably won't read this, but I wanted to say thank you. You guys have been my inspiration for the last 6 years. Your videos got me through both high school and college. As far back as Resident Evil 7 and Mass Effect, you guys were putting my depression in the ground. For what happiness you've given me, I'll always be grateful.

  • @Felyx.EllaMay
    @Felyx.EllaMay 10 місяців тому +2

    Zach's story of eating his test brings me so much joy! I would've done the same thing. Just let me get a damn snack

  • @TooLateForIeago
    @TooLateForIeago Рік тому +2

    200 years of not even trying to find your kid’s remains.

  • @richardhansen1289
    @richardhansen1289 Рік тому +5

    If you’re looking for fun followers you should try the combat zone, cait’s end quest is like finding curie but instead of finding a cute robot you walk into an AA meeting

  • @michael2636
    @michael2636 Рік тому +2

    I'm excited to see Zach's interaction with X6-88 once you pick him up as a companion 😂

  • @rainbowpeanut2568
    @rainbowpeanut2568 Місяць тому

    10:30 "the door just fell off"
    ah yes, with the entirely natural force of a 40mm HEDP round it simply fell off, entirely without abnormal circumstances or interference

  • @neillathotep7386
    @neillathotep7386 Рік тому +2

    5:00 Zac, spreader of mildly inaccurate but very convincing-sounding obscure military facts, strikes again.

  • @myredisbrown6022
    @myredisbrown6022 Рік тому +1

    And though he wished for death, he was unable to die. So eventually, Billy stopped thinking...

  • @PantherCat64
    @PantherCat64 Рік тому +1

    Gun ideas To Annoy Zach™️: A shotgun shell that fire a bunch of paper triangles

  • @ryanjones_rheios
    @ryanjones_rheios Рік тому +1

    "Barbara just was", yes, that is true of most household appliances.

  • @imJustaCrow69
    @imJustaCrow69 Рік тому

    *eats half of a german test*
    "You're not you when you're hungry. Snicker's Satisfies."

  • @JoeRogansBigToe
    @JoeRogansBigToe Рік тому +1

    this is now my new favorite episode just seeing yall mess with this quest has me laughing my face off

  • @tinaherr3856
    @tinaherr3856 Рік тому +9

    To be fair, Ghouls have always been weird in terms of how they are alive. Even all the way back in Fallout 1 and 2. Like in Fallout 2 where there is a Ghoul who was buried alive, stuck there for a while, and just hopped back up like nothing happened when the player digs the grave. In Dead Money, Dean Domino also questions whether he needs to eat or not.

    • @plantainsame2049
      @plantainsame2049 Рік тому

      I'm pretty sure that they were created by those elder gods that exist
      And I honestly prefer the answer being magic to pseudoscience

    • @tinaherr3856
      @tinaherr3856 Рік тому

      @@plantainsame2049 yeah, that's another thing that's mysterious. The Ghoulification requirements, and how becoming feral Ghouls work

  • @NinjaCodeman
    @NinjaCodeman Рік тому

    "My Algebra teacher was also the German teacher"
    Dude I have five friends who each went to different schools than me, and we ALSO had the exact same scenario.
    WHY IS THIS SO COMMON!?

  • @ZeroSuitSamo
    @ZeroSuitSamo Рік тому +1

    Oh so thats the story behind that house lol. I found it while wandering around and they arent very friendly if you just randomly try and talk to them. Which is honestly pretty realistic, "what are you doing in my house, please leave" seems like a very realistic response, but in game it seemed random to have unique NPCs with no purpose.

  • @LoveofTech
    @LoveofTech Рік тому

    16:57 I genuinely thought he was going to be like "I'll take care of it" and just shoot a grenade from the doorway.

  • @issacmartinez6452
    @issacmartinez6452 Рік тому +4

    Time to download the Humvee mod to take Curie cross country.

    • @Kaarl_Mills
      @Kaarl_Mills Рік тому +1

      *Humvee proceeds to mate with the earth before launching itself into space*

    • @issacmartinez6452
      @issacmartinez6452 Рік тому

      @@Kaarl_Mills Yup but Zach will get a good laugh out of it or rage scream at it, either way I’ll be entertained.

  • @crabman3144
    @crabman3144 Рік тому +1

    I hate this quest because it makes no damn sense, and it's just contrivance after contrivance.
    Fallout 4 itself is inconsistent on whether or not ghouls need to eat and drink or not. Kid in a Fridge says they don't, Kent Connelly says they do. Research Assistant peters being in a room that's locked from the outside says they don't, the feral ghouls eating the horrible food paste at Suffolk County Charter School says they do. Eddie Winter says they don't, settlement building mechanics say they do.
    To be fair, this is a problem that goes back to Fallout 2 with Coffin Willie, who's buried alive in a cemetery for an unknown amount of time. So maybe ghouls can enter a hibernation-like state where radiation can sustain them? Feels like making excuses for shoddy writing though.

  • @norsefirefighter
    @norsefirefighter Рік тому +1

    Look there is a ghoul named Coffin Willie was buried in a coffin underground in fallout 2. He had no oxygen yet still around no problem.

  • @bradenwelenc7764
    @bradenwelenc7764 Рік тому +3

    I hate this quest, its so stupid. But to play devils' advocate, it is possible that ghouls have a psychological need to eat and drink without a biological need so long as they have enough background rads to sustain them.

    • @chriskoloski32
      @chriskoloski32 Рік тому +1

      Fallout 2. There was a ghoul that was buried alive for decades and was perfectly fine when dug up

    • @Kaarl_Mills
      @Kaarl_Mills Рік тому +1

      ​@@chriskoloski32fallout 2 was also happy to break the 4th wall all the time, large portions can be considered not canon or wildly exaggerated

    • @bradenwelenc7764
      @bradenwelenc7764 Рік тому

      @@chriskoloski32 My issue was the writing was bad about explaining what was going on and how this kids survived and stayed young since that was never explained. In fallout 1 it was explained that kids couldn't be ghouls since the radiation would just kill them. I know in fallout 3 there was the Rivet City church stuff but that could be written off as dogma and not cannon beyond it's what the church there believes.

  • @lbh9850
    @lbh9850 Рік тому +1

    It's rare to see a kid survive one of this things

  • @MorganHarper87
    @MorganHarper87 Рік тому +1

    Maybe ghouls are like vampires to Bethesda. They won't die if they don't feed, but they're not as strong if they don't.

    • @shorewall
      @shorewall Рік тому

      Even Vampires go insane if they don't drink blood often enough.

  • @Aetherish
    @Aetherish Рік тому +1

    those shoes of the mom's always remind me of clown shoes and it bugs the heck out of me and every time I see them I just think of Dukov from fallout 3 saying Hey Clown shoes!

  • @PumpkinPain
    @PumpkinPain Рік тому +1

    Him having multiple dialogues was kinda cool tho

  • @malice926
    @malice926 Рік тому +13

    Ehhhh, as for Zach's argument at the end there, there's several instances of ghouls saying they "think" they need to eat. Most of them occur in Fallout 3 and 4. However, there are many many many examples of feral ghouls surviving in total isolation with absolutely no access to food at all for extended periods of time in basically every game.

    • @tefnutofhoney2832
      @tefnutofhoney2832 Рік тому +1

      Feral ghouls are far different to normal ghouls.
      In addition, the ENTIRE resolution of fallout 1s first main quest is cheapened by things like this

    • @malice926
      @malice926 Рік тому

      @@tefnutofhoney2832 🤦‍♂️ it's in the name, "feral - in a wild state, especially after escape from captivity or domestication." otherwise they are just ghouls.

  • @dasovietunion3370
    @dasovietunion3370 8 місяців тому

    I remember the first time I played this quest. I was fighting gunners who were near that house and I accidentally shot the fridge in the crossfire. I just see a fucking kid crawl out of a fridge in the middle of a battle and yelled "Did a kid just come out of that fucking fridge?!"

  • @AndyRoseGaming
    @AndyRoseGaming Рік тому

    As a kid I was so well known among my friends for eating paper that for several birthdays I'd get edible paper and pens

  • @nathanford2072
    @nathanford2072 Рік тому +1

    Man paper eaters unite! I ate basically my entire math homework sheet and my excuse was literally “i ate my homework”.

  • @Tha-mountain
    @Tha-mountain Рік тому +2

    3:14 there is a mod for that

  • @GhostBear3067
    @GhostBear3067 Рік тому +1

    03:36- that sounds like how Deacon dies...

  • @MrLandShark55_55
    @MrLandShark55_55 Рік тому +2

    Yeah, I ate paper in highschool too. Not because I was hungry or I ate bland food at home, I just liked the taste. I was discrete about it though, and only ate the scraps of paper that were in the notebook after I ripped a page out.

  • @MassiveMaleMonkey
    @MassiveMaleMonkey Рік тому +2

    hey mike, you should tell zach about this game called 'ultimate chicken horse'. i only bring it up because you can play as a raccoon so i figured he may like it

  • @3B_Veiwer
    @3B_Veiwer Рік тому

    I'm pretty sure the kid wasn't stuck in the fridge for 200 years, but rather got stuck during the fall of Quincy.
    As for why his parents didn't look for him, they didn't know where he would have hid.

  • @lornbaker1083
    @lornbaker1083 Рік тому +1

    reuniting a family separated by 2 centuries and a world ending war, and seeing them happy and together After so long. Was the greatest quest reward for me I had in game. Nothing makes me more happy then being a hero of the wastelands, keeping the common folks safe and inspiring them to stand up and fight back against the mad nightmares of the world. FOR WHEREVER THERE IS TROUBLE! I WILL BE THERE! when a family is in distress cause there child has been kidnapped. I will be there. When raider chem addicts strong arm a settlement for a fix. I will be there. When super mutants run rampant without restriction I WILL BE THERE!
    FOR I AM LORN THE GOD DAMN BAKER! BRINGING OF BREAD AND BRINGER OF BLOOD. AND MY WORD IS THE MUTHA FUCKING LAW!

  • @goreobsessed2308
    @goreobsessed2308 Рік тому +2

    Easily the worst written quest in the game. Not only is it dumb its not fun

  • @jroden06
    @jroden06 Рік тому

    The railgun is my favorite FO4 weapon. The Assault Rifle and others seem haphazardly designed, but the railgun actually seems feasible and functional with the exception of the Nixie tubes. The inclusion of the tubes definitely highlights that this world stopped just short of the invention of the transistor and never looked back or tried anything different from the atomic age tech tree.

  • @picawood
    @picawood Рік тому +2

    Why every time bethesda do a quest involving kids is aways the most dumb idea in the entire game?

  • @oops679
    @oops679 Рік тому

    If that's how you start a video I feel like the Marines would love you guys

  • @silverscorpio24
    @silverscorpio24 Рік тому

    Moral of the first story: Feed Zach or he'll eat whatever is in his hands.

  • @rayplays7498
    @rayplays7498 Рік тому +3

    Zach: "oh they left!"
    Bullet: "GOD DAMN IT!"
    ghoul lady: "everybody be quiet!"
    im drinking so that made me lose it with laughter xD

  • @TheFruitofTruth
    @TheFruitofTruth Рік тому +1

    Fun fact Ghouls don’t need food or water only feed on radiation. And they do age but it’s EXTREMELY SLOW. Like one year to them in terms of aging is like a life time for us

  • @22Ti12
    @22Ti12 Рік тому +1

    Yeah baby!!!! My favorite shotgun!!!!

  • @rjkinney1
    @rjkinney1 Рік тому

    I love y'all posting more fallout 4

  • @doctorscientist7570
    @doctorscientist7570 Рік тому

    My understanding with ghouls and hunger is that they can still get hungry, but it's not easy for them to starve to death. And if there's radiation in the area, they can sort of convert that into energy for their bodies as it gets absorbed. With the caveat to that being if they use radiation as a meal alternative too much, or are plain careless, they become much more likely to go feral.

  • @WolffangLightwood
    @WolffangLightwood Рік тому

    Yeah, a lot of people and players don't realize that most synths don't even know they are synths. That's the reason for the memory wipe the railroad offers the gen 3s

  • @genkoti
    @genkoti Рік тому

    Welcome back to the tale of two travelling sociopaths.