@@janedavis9930 he is telling you that, vegetables are not nutritios, like the spices, only meant for cleansing, they are indigestible cellulose. May as well eat cardboard. Fiber is a lie! & cholesterol is good for us, so is fat and salt!
Omg totally… when I went grain-free and dairy free, I began pounding down the almond milk, almond flour, sweet potato… all healthy stuff… but then got joint pain issues!
@@spiritofwisdom31 Easy to start it, hard to stay on it. It takes according to the doc 3-6 months to be fat adapted. I wasn't hungry, just very weak. So I would suggest doing keto with low oxylate foods. Cucumbers, lettuce, squash so your energy level stays up. That's what I am doing now and feel much better.
@@spiritofwisdom31 Easy to start it, hard to stay on it. It takes according to the doc 3-6 months to be fat adapted. I wasn't hungry, just very weak. So I would suggest doing keto with low oxylate foods. Cucumbers, lettuce, squash so your energy level stays up. That's what I am doing now and feel much better.
You will generally get retracing as your body heals and has an increased capacity to eliminate toxins. So don't be surprised if you have days when you feel worse.
I used to drink pure kale juice and eat pounds of spinach everyday. I used to drink smoothies daily with blueberries and almond milk. I suffered from acne and joint pain in my hands, hips and knees. Suffered from painful kidney stones as well. Went pure carnivore and all my symptoms completely disappeared.
@@timzstr you get gout if you rush into it yes. carnivore helps but to get into it you need to get into it slowly. remove 25% of the plants u eat for a week, next week 25% more etc until its gone. gout happens if you firstly rush into changing a diet dramatically. your body gets a shock reaction and has to work harder and ur liver isnt used to work so fast. and don't eat too much fat too quickly either, slowly introduce it and increase it by 20-25% per week. the body needs time to adjust
My husband and I have been on carnivore for a month now. After a week, we felt terrible. We were both extremely fatigued. Previously, I was very healthy, no arthritis. Now, for the first time, I had a swollen ear, massive diarrhea, skin sore, and I was out of breath - felt like a heart thing. Other carnivore channels just say diarrhea will go away. They don't mention oxalate dumping. I ate lots of oxalates on keto diet for years, so I'm loaded. You are the only one I can find who gives lots of practical information on how to deal with oxalate dumping. I can't thank you enough!
@@tanyawieczorek6603 Much better, thanks. I got Sally's book, drink electrolytes and the suggested B vitamins, and eat mostly meat, eggs, dairy, plus low oxalate foods. Even minor problems I had before the dump are pretty much gone .. This experience was amazing, and I'm sharing it with friends who have chronic inflammation. Only one meal, I ate a potato. My ear swelled up and was painful that night. Won't do that again.
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One thing I learned is that you need the vegetables and fruits more in the summer when we sweat more due to hot weather . Wild fruits like blackberries, grapes and apples etc were naturally available in the hot season here in the US and they’re available year round in the tropics . Yams and sweet potatoes peppers and tomatoes grow wild in the tropics year round . I don’t worry too much about eating what is provided by god . Most of the hybrids we eat today have been changed drastically from what they once were so that may be part of the problem.
I will say that finding about oxalates at this junction in my life has been a miracle. So many things make sense now. My platelets were going high again. They started to be dangerously high in 1995. I moved in late 1998 and found a tick doctor (I was lab tested positive for 3 different tick diseases). During this antibiotic treatments, my platelets went back to normal. It was an absolute miracle. However, my doctor died last year. I guess I need to give a bit of background. I was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2013. About 8 months later while on a road trip, my doctor called and said my blood glucose was dangerously high. I just cut out most carbs but not too strict. My brain was still a bit mushed from the cancer treatment and surgery. I was doing good but then I was diagnosed with ovarian cancer in 2019. It was caught extremely early. Genetic testing came out negative. It was here that I did more research and buckled down. I decided to eat a cancer starving way of eating. I felt fabulous. Then in the middle of 2022 I started eating more nuts. They were on my approved list so why not? I started making and eating chaffles made with almond flour. Then, slowly, my joints and back started hurting. It was very similar when I had untreated tick diseases. I was so scared it was coming back. Started cat’s claw and it helped with the joint pain but 2 months in, my joint pain seemed to be getting worse. Then my platelets started going up and up and up. I was scared witless. Went to a blood doctor. She tested for all the known JAK2 mutations, I was negative. She said I should go to an arthritis doctor. I knew enough that I knew this was not the way I needed to go. I was already doing a strict keto. Then all of a sudden I had oxalates videos coming over my UA-cam feed. At first I just scoffed because it was so difficult to believe that what vegetables I could eat was trying to kill my. I watched many different sites and it finally struck me that maybe, just maybe, there was something about this. It was so easy for me to just go carnivore with some cheeses, heavy whipping cream, and sour cream. Oh My Goodness! My joints no longer hurt. My back feels normal. I’m excited to get my blood tested because I know my platelets will be normal. FYI: I was told that the platelets are made in the bone marrow and that my platelets were increasing due to inflammation. Why don’t doctors know about oxalates? I wish I knew about oxalates in 1995. Sure, I had tick diseases but with a healthy immune system, our bodies should be able to fight them. I was literally killing myself with healthy foods. I now know better - knowledge is power. But what is more powerful is to have the knowledge and the willingness to make sacrifices that will change my body/mind health. I am no longer ADHD - bonus. I now love my mind. I never ever cheat!
@@seekthtruth i am shocked at how every day I feel healthier and healthier eating a carnivore with dairy (heavy whipping cream, butter, cheese, full fat sourcream). My mind is clear, my body feels amazing, i no longer have any joint pain. I’ve never had stones which I am so grateful for. But, if you can do this, you will see the changes in your total health. I will say that my cholesterol went up but my good cholesterol also went way up. I’m personally not concerned, I think everything Will work it’s way to my new normal. I just can’t believe how good I feel! I do not ever cheat.
I ate spinach salads and large quantities of nuts along with curcumin supplements daily. Had total body pain, kidney stones, a quadracep tendon rupture and a lot of other symptoms for years culminating to a diagnosis of fibromyalgia. Found Sally Norton, got her book now I am in the dumping phase which is an adventure in and of itself.
@@smooth_pursuit or B1 deficiency, or overload of mercury in the body, or perpetual low virility stealth pathogens hiding in biofilms. The causes are many or multipronged. In other words it's different causes in different people.
@@smooth_pursuit Yes, multifactorial...or even domino effect. I wasn't being mean-spirited, btw. I've been through all sorts of hell illness and it just makes it clearer that many things can cause the same set of vague Fibro symptoms.
I was VERY active when I got sick from oxalates. It was the oxalates that ruined my health in the first place. I was working outside, doing physical work, and inside doing very physical work, but I was eating high oxalate foods with every stinking meal. And of course, no doctor knew why I was feeling fatigued, why my joints stopped bending properly and why I had a positive ANA. They wanted me to take a bunch of drugs for the rest of my life. I had NO idea about oxalates. I tried every diet at the time that seemed "healthy" including (what a joke) juicing and doing juice fasts. I didn't even begin to feel like I was going the right direction until I found out about oxalates and stopped eating plants. Still lots of joint pain and joints that won't bend like they should, but I'm better now than I've been in years.
Lol you are not alone I used to make spinach smoothie with grape tomatoes peppers and other veggies. I couldn’t understand why I got sicker instead of better.
I've been suffering from the same symptoms and also recently had a positive ANA! Only recently discovered this information about oxalates. How soon did you begin to feel your symptoms dissipate?
I was completely unaware of oxalates, until I passed a kidney stone! I used an online list of oxalate contents and made an oxalate diary, and it's REALLY easy to eat below 100 mg per day. Most days I was eating less than 25 mg per day. Avoid potatoes, almonds, rhubarb, beans, and spinach and you are most of the way there. Fruit is almost oxalate-free, except for avocados. Some vegetables are very high, some very low, so looking at a list is useful. Grains, nuts, and seeds tend to be a problem, which counters everything you thought you knew about a "healthy diet".
@@regina6838 "coffee has very low oxalates" I'm not really convinced that it is true. There are conflicting reports and there may be some issues with measuring oxalate levels. I would like to see a good study yet which would convince me in either way...
more knows yes mainstream no they would add their off twist to it and ruin it mainstream is usually always done to harm people and control them the whole system needs to be cleaned out
@@stevenclark5682 Yeah! We were meant to swim nicely in the primordial soup like all the other good little cells, but someone had to have a bright idea and start evolving. It was all downhill from there on...
@@stevenclark5682 Thats mainly ALL they ate in the Bible After the flood.the garden of eden was the perfect gardenand they ste fruits and vegetables.After Sin,the earth was cursed.The ground and plantshave never been the same.
This explains so much. I have autoimmune disease and refuse to take meds for it. My Dr suggested the plant paradox (focuses on lectin removal), which I went into 100%. I was 'cured' of so many problems! My inflammation went away, my skin cleared up, brain fog went away, I had massive amounts of energy, and I lost 50lbs. Then almost as suddenly, my symptoms started coming back no matter how 'clean' I was eating. I found my body unable to consume vegetables - any of them at this time make me sick. I've started to focus more on the meat, and I'm already feeling better. Turns out, all the vegetables I was eating that are lectin free, contain oxylates, so essentially I traded one toxin for another. It Makes sense I can't put anything green in my mouth without gagging. My body is telling me no! Thank you for this video. Another step to be taken on my road to healing. Bless.
@@snowyowl6892 Every single disease is linked to eating animal products. The leading longevity researchers David Sinclair and Valter Longo agree that the prevailing science shows this. But hey random UA-cam guy keep eating that meat centric keto diet and see you in the cancer and cardiac ward by 55 years of age.
This is great info, when I was vegan I was eating nearly 100% Very High Oxalate foods😮 and I couldn't understand why I was dealing with so much pain🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
Hi from Ayla.. I am unable to eat vegetables and fruits.. I get sick .. I’ve been told it’s all in my head by doctors.. My Twin Sister has the same issue.. The Doctors DON’T LISTEN !!!!
I had all of these symptoms. I was baffled as I couldn't figure out why so many foods caused me problems. Mind blown. I went carnivore and fixed most of this stuff. Now I know why I had the issues in the first place.
I quit coffee for Green Tea thinking I was doing myself a favour. It stirred up my Interstitial Cystitis and Fibro so fast. Wow. I stick to a low ox diet now!!
@@barb987 I was recently diagnosed with mild IC. Green tea Made me vomit if i had it. Now i know why. D Mannose is helping me. I literally felt i was peeing shards of glass or someone stabbing me.
I was diagnosed as lactose intolerant years back. After research (websites and UA-cam) I was convinced almond milk is the best replacement for diaries. No where oxalate was mentioned. 😭 Now I have a dozen of health problems because of oxalate toxicity.
I do too! Now I need to warn my kids, because a couple of them are eating "extremely healthy diets." And two of them already have symptoms like I had when I was younger.
Thanks for asking. After eliminating high oxalate foods, I generally feel much better. Since my body has been suffering from oxalate accumulation, I still have to fight kidney stones. I have also learned that high doses of vitamin B6 can cause oxalate stones to form. Don't introduce any medicine/vitamins/minerals to your body unless it is absolutely essential. All the best!
right on elliot. i love your passion. you get excited and you go deep. going deep shows your dedication to helping people by telling the truth and expanding your research to find facts. you can’t argue with facts. thank you for all your hard work.
I totally appreciate your talks on oxalate toxicity. I’ve been diagnosed with fibromyalgia for 28 years. I really think this has been ongoing oxalate accumulation for decades. I’ve also been diagnosed with Hashsimotos, hepatitis C, gut issues, neuropathy, UTIs, IC and arthritis. I’ve had all my Igg, Igm and other inflammatory markers come back “ within normal limits”, yet I’m having horrific pain everyday. I’m trying to decrease my ox intake to get to low/ moderate. It’s quite the journey. Thank you for sharing your knowlege
Great presentation on oxalates, I had a big dump of oxalates, I let my urine rest for 3 days, and believe me it contains a lot of oxalates, it was like sand in a large amount, Elliot Oliver Gratitude
@@seekthtruthThis is terrifying to learn about at any age. Idk how she was smiling. Strange indeed. But in a way it helped ease the grim mood from the information.
Ya, she should not be grinning like the Cheshire cat through the entire podcast. Very strange and annoying. If she had any idea the true and horrible suffering that is a reality with toxicity and dumping, she wouldn't be grinning.
In the first 10 minutes tou described my former diet to a tee. Green smoothies, almond everything, big green salads KALE KALE KALE!. After 20 yrs of eating what I thought was "clean" I have severe diarrhea, SIBO, EPI and a whole list of health problems that accompany these
I've recently found out about oxalates. This video is so informative & quite interesting! I've learned way more on this subject now. This info is definitely beneficial to me! Thank you!! 🙂
I had a Salicylate problem for years and if it hadn't been finally diagnosed I'd never have found out what was making me so ill. I mean, how many people stop eating vegetables? Once I completely stopped eating them, I was cured after just a few days but I still live, virtually on a carnivore diet now, and have done for many years.
I am recovering from oxalate poisoning from my vegan superfood smoothies. I chose the carnivore way of eating, and know it all will take time. My balance is back I can walk without falling and my feet have healed. Sally K Norton, Toxic Superfoods would be a great interview.
I had car-t (lymphoma treatment) 4 years ago and continued what I thought was a very healthy diet…high in oxalates. About a year ago, I started having bubbling in my urine. I had no other symptoms, but it was concerning. I take no medications, only supplements and was very puzzled. I quit my supplementation and nothing changed. After starting to see articles/videos on oxalates, I reduced my consumption of oxalates and the bubbling slowly resolved. Started taking my supplements again and I am still having no issues. Seems like there was a good chance it was the oxalates causing my problem. Grateful for the information!
Having Chickenpox or Shingles allows the body to dump oxalates. When we get chickenpox as a child, it is mother nature doing an initial oxalate purge and the more oxalates in the body, the more pustules you will see.
Plant based diet + high oxalate literally had me crippled. I was on a "super food" wfpb vegetarian for 3 years, was eating yogurt and cottage cheese. Almost everything I was eating was high Oxalates in extreme amounts. Full bag spinach salads, omg I get chills thinking about it. By the end I literally became cripple, my body was breaking down so bad between the lack of meat and extreme amounts of plant. I was poisoning myself everyday. My back and joints were horrible I couldnt move both my arms at one point because my shoulders were so bad. I'm a mechanic so my injuries just never healed and joints just got worse. The weird thing is you seem to get addicted to some of the foods. One such as pepper, I used to put like 10 of those little packs on my pizza at school.. used a ton of pepper my whole life. I started having back and joint pains at 20. Could never figure out why I was feeling 80 at 20. Going off plants for the last 4 years has given me less pain in my back and joints than I've had since 18, I'm 44 today. I never had much dumping that I identified specifically. I started on raw Milk right away when I went "carnivore". That may have helped with dumping, I drank 2-3 gallons a week, did kefir with 1/3 of it most the time.
I'm glad you're open to the idea that plants increase their alarm molecules in relation to the assaults that they face in their environment such as oxalates and salicylates that then get transferred to us. What is wrong with the world is Short Memory. Both oxalates and salicylates are life chemicals that have been with us from the beginning but Poison Is In The Dose. So how is it that former civilizations consumed the same foods and thrived but all of a sudden the modern world is melting down after a salad? NO ONE is taking an integrated look at The Problem. Part of the problem is a psyop called Raw Food. We developed cooking for express reasons of destroying anti-digestion (protease inhibitors) enzymes and if you had HARD WATER instead of municipal softened and aluminized poison then cooking alone would make soap of the oxalates and other toxins that could be skimmed while cooking. EVEN PARROTS IN THE JUNGLE EAT CLAY BEFORE CONSUMING THEIR MAIN FOOD SOURCE THAT IS A POISONOUS NUT! Nature adapts, people are fools. Yes, spinach is off the charts in oxalates. I hated it and swiss chard and beet tops since I was a kid. BUT what no one tells you is that beef, wheat, dairy, spinach, and lettuce also contain either opioids or their analogs so in a world where nearly everyone has over a dozen herpes-family viruses the ADDICTION to the OPIOIDS is what drives food choices. It's like being a drug addict without ever knowing that you were using a drug or addicted to it. If you are referring to Black pepper then that is a unique chemical that inhibits certain cytochromes. Even the ancient yogis in India knew there were two kinds of people without the benefit of clinical science: those who could tolerate or benefitted from cytochrome inhibition and those who were made seriously ill from it. Pretty much I subscribe to the Three Stooges version of medicine: "Doctor! Doctor! It HURTS when I do this!" "Then don't DO that!" I think 'dumping' is part of a psyop to get people's attention off of the fact that Roundup has so modified the entire biosphere that they talk about a word that has NO CLINICAL DEFINITION instead of doing root-case analysis. Cheers.
@@vaccinefraud5570 yesterday I was just berating some ppl for americans having such short attentions spans, we're on the pages. For sure. It only makes sense they would ramp up thier defense chemicals under attack since their only defense is chemical factories after all. I'll read the rest and reply later
@@vaccinefraud5570 it was modern factory farmed pepper so imagine the toxins were higher. I liked spinach and those green things.. After wfpb with high amounts of fresh veg and super food I feel I was being poisoned every day during the diet. And I agree it's more than just Oxalates. I have a theory about my experience that I'll type up later to discuss.
@@jeremyr7147 I'm on the fence with the Blame The Victim conundrum, because all of our brains have been under continual attack. But there ain't no fixin' stupid. At some point basic survival is supposed to kick in to preserve the organism. Attention spans the length of toddlers, reasoning skills the power of flatworms, and since serotonin was destroyed with the gut bacteria (microbes make ~70% of the serotonin for the host) they lack all ambition as well. At this rate we shoule inherit the earth but who would want it? Just to blow your mind: Did you know that Vitamin C the darling of all health nuts is a plant toxin put there to deter insect predation? Caffiene is so toxic that it is sequestered in special cells of the coffee plant so that if you don't keep the leaves and beans and twigs away from the drip line it can kill the plant. Nicotine is a nerve toxin used to kill bugs.... hmmm... I think we came full circle to the opening of your comment...
@@jeremyr7147 I'd be very interested in your saga. Not so long ago black pepper and the spice cloves harvested by natives who then spread them out in the sun to dry with their feet. I have no idea how they do it in this mechanized world today. "Oh, what a lovely Ham... what is that high note? cloves?" "Thank you dear. I think that it is ode d' athlete's foot."
Thank you! I believe I started oxalate dumping and am experiencing a lot of the symptoms. Didn’t know what’s going on since I’ve been doing better with carnivore.
I was diagnosed with low iron in may 2022 so I started taking iron and vitamin c supplement. My ferritin level was 4 so I wanted to improve that as soon as possible so I began a diet high in iron spinach and almond nuts etc… by mid august 2022 my joints and muscles almost locked down I was miserable and anti inflammatory med couldn’t help me enough to rest or to be productive . This is end of September 2022 and I have begun a low oxalate diet . I think this diet is an answer to pray and I can see this oxalate as problem in other people lives near me .
Thanks for the video. It is great to hear about what you eat! I also eat white potatoes and some rice and mainly animal protein. I don't follow a low oxalate diet, but eliminating vegetables has probably meant I am getting fewer oxalates. I appreciate the awareness around these issues. Thank you.
I had a very high Oxalate diet for most of my life (64 yrs) until close to 90 days ago I went carnivore. I was so sick with numerous issues including horrible daily leg pain, chronic exhaustion, sleep issues, weight issues, fibromyalgia, high insulin, and so much more. Since carnivore my leg pain is completely gone in the first week, I now sleep like a baby, (first time in years), have slowly lost over 20lbs; yet I'm having terrible back/rib pains when I get up in the am! It will dissapate as the day wears on, but always returns when I get up in the am. I also developed a bladder infection for almost 2 weeks (haven't had one in decades) when started carni. Tho I've gone from chronic exhaustion to chronic fatigue, to fatigue to just tired over the last 3 months. I share this for those who start a healthy carni diet but wind up with other issues. I know about OXALATES and believe I'm detoxing from them so despite the pain I still feel like I'm healing. I've gained so many benefits despite still not feeling my best yet because I do understand what this young man is talking about. Stick with your carnivore diet, study this, and or find a mentor. 👍
Almost all the foods I used to eat were loaded with oxalates. I had to change my diet drastically, but I am one of those who will probably take years to detox, if I live that long (I'm 70.) I do take Royal Chanca Piedra which helps dissolve the stones.
People are breathing low level hydrogen and reversing aging and all kinds of chronic illness. If you search George Wiseman Hydrogen, you'll find a bunch of lectures and videos about it. In rats treated with molecular hydrogen, they live 30% longer.
@@rohanawolf2089 not yet. I don't have money for it because illness has crippled me and I have virtually no income. I'm about to fundraise for it. There's medical research on molecular hydrogen use. The Japanese and Koreans are ahead of the curve on it. George Wiseman's videos are an excellent starting point to understand how this is working. He's also probably the person who has breathed it daily the longest. Like 8 years now.
Chanca piedra is awesome! I bought and gave to a coworker who was dying from large stones and it helped her immensely. I dont have nor have ever had kidney stones, but as I pursue going off of oxylates, will this help me with dumping and crystals??
I've been 90%+ carnivore for over a year now. Had all the healthy outcomes most significantly no diabetes. Now I'm suffering from lower left quadrant stomach pain (i.e., diverticulitis), hypothyroidism and gum issues. I suspect I'm oxalate dumping. Pretty frustrating! I still have a gut and I know its inflammation issues. Guess I'll have to be patient and slowly dump the oxalates out of my tissues. I'm frustrated because I really want to prove my doctor wrong! He doesn't care about auto immune issues because he doesn't know how to treat it.
If you add a little bit of oxalate food back in, it slows down the unpleasant dumping and just dumps at a more tolerable rate. Maybe a couple olives once in a while
Look into Intermittent Fasting, eating twice a day, B1 TTFD, confirm your MMC is working well. I wouldn't go full Carni get a little Oxalate to prevent dumping symptoms. Throw in a 24-48 hour fast couple times a year
Youve convinved me to switch from daily sweet potato for my main carb source to butternut squash, white potato, and more fruit. Pepper being high makes me sad
Peter D'Adamo and his father, through many decades of work, developed the Blood Type Diet. Each of the four basic types has foods that are beneficial, foods that are neutral, and foods to avoid - all based on many tests to determine which lectins affect which types, and how certain foods also disrupt or support the microbiome. I've benefitted from even loosely following the diet, and many even today report their issues being cleared up. Worth a look. (And BTW, the Plant Paradox book cribs from D'Adamo's work, although he never brings up blood types at all, so... stick with D'Adamo. Lectin considerations only make sense vis-a-vis blood types, and not on their own.)
I've done his diet I'm a boos type O myself ,and he does mention blood type O do better on carnivore diets because we don't do well with carbs,I followed his recommendations it worked but was having flare ups its oxylates so I decided to go full carnivore instead and see more improvement, but yes his book is awesome is just that years of eating oxylates ruin your health over time and I have celiac which makes oxylates work much worse as he stated in another video and now I understand my problem
@@admar6934 I've always wondered why different blood types exist in the first place. There must be a reason. Bart Kay (whose work I love) says that blood type has no bearing on what you eat. I believe he says that if you're a human, you're designed to be on a carnivore diet.
The blood type has worked for me I am a blood type O and according to Peter adamo Os are more of a carnivore less carbs at least 1 or 2x a week because our bodies don't do well in carbs and he mentions lectins and other things, he's Bern around for years so it gets me that he's this accurate and alit of people do carnivore but don't succeed they might in the beginning but then problems will come in the long run,everyone's body is different, but do remember God as our creator loves variety and he always mentions that life us in the blood because is where our DNA is found therefore he encourages us to respect ,and I don't know if you've seen recent articles where scientists are now speaking more on your blood type and the roles of different diseases so this is good news is coming out to light
Yes we do ,foe me is all I can have meat especially red meat but I do eat blueberries and bananas that are beneficial for type Os but just see what works for you, and to stop carb cravings I have at least 4tsp of olive oil with lemon to get my fats any other fat for type Os makes them gain weight and olive oil doesn't do this
This has been a very educational video. Thank you very much. I just had an uretheroscopy done for a 10mm stone. And I have a ESWP scheduled for an 8mm in my kidney. Don’t or told me the stones are calcium oxalate. My problem has always been little or no water intake through out my life. Im 62 yrs old, weigh less than 100 lb. No joint problems. I consider myself very healthy apart from my kidney stones. So now I know what to avoid or restrict. Thank you!
Finding Low Oxalate diets is tricky. Each listing varies re: Low-High Oxalates. One list may say a food is Low and on another list it will be Medium or even High. There's no one listing to rely upon. Some foods show up High consistently, so those are clearly avoidable. It would really help if you would compile a new list.
The lists that nephrologists have come up with are pretty good since they are the medical doctors that have cared about the oxalate problem. Coffee is known to help reduce oxalate kidney stones
I just started my Carnivore diet on July 4th n about 7-10 days into it I went to the ER cuz I had difficulty breathing . They did a cat scan n found that my Left lung had deflated a little n found mucous n start of Pneumonia. I assumed that I was Detoxing or Oxalate dumping. I have been suffering from chest congestion for over 10 years n had been taking Mucinex for 10 years. When I left the hospital, I got Antibiotics which I took for 2 weeks. I’m still recovering.. almost there . When I first started carnivore, by the 3rd day I lost 2 pounds of water. I’ve always had water retention issues. My Lymph nodes on my neck right below the chin had been Swollen for over 25 years n at one point taking Steroids for 4 years n weend off N was on Tylenol around the clock shrank by 80%. OMG I was shocked!!!!! I have more energy, mental clarity, better Digestion, no more bloating n cramps. My fingers use to get numb while I was putting on my makeup but hardly ever now. My skin looks better, my pores shrank. But my skin started itching.. here nnthere n more on my extremities. I’m thinking that’s detoxing as well.my sleep is still not that great but we’ll see maybe by 3rd month I hope to see more amazing results. This video was the best one yet regarding Oxalates… !!!! Thank you!!!
Have you heard of NAC it's amazing with lung issues... helps thin and clear out mucus. It helps in the production of glutathione which is our own powerful antioxidant produced by the liver. It's a game changer it really is. All the best 😊
Carnivore diet leads to problems eventually too tho. It only helps in the beginning..by correcting deficiencies such as carnitine co q 10. Jordan Pederson daughter has reverted back to veggies in diet due to problems on carnivore
@@florrie8767 Mikhaila ! What ? I am not rigid about carnivore …Must admit I do think about salads often and will eat avocado which a naturopath said was “almost a complete food” and paw paw/apples/oranges. Not to mention shrooms and onion with my steak. can’t go back to root veg tho - can’t enjoy them at all. In other words, I am not rigid. Can you link me to where Mikhaila mentions her return to veg ? really appreciated your post. 🙏🏻
@@snowyowl6892 I follow Paul Saladino and eat raw dairy, fruits and honey. It really works soo good with my body. And i have PCOS and still feel amazing not one gram of extra body fat.
I consumed 5 grams a day for ten years. It didn't kill me but, man, did it ***ck me up. I'm on 50mg a day now and dumping oxalate constantly. It's absolutely brutal. The problem is that, if your body can't excrete or metabolize your intake (and no one can with that quantity), you will probably redirect it to outlying areas where it will accumulate. That means you can go for a long time before you hit the crisis point. By then your health will be extremely compromised, and doctors won't know what is happening to you.
Having GI issues (autoimmune / leaky gut, dysregulated immune function) does not mean whole plant foods with oxalates are the problem. Think gluten and Celiac disease Sensitive people need to remove oxilates temporarily until they fix there dysfunction. Don't demonize plants with oxilates when it's certain individuals that are having a reaction that need to FIX their health issues and avoid oxilates until they do.
@@lowella8600 Here is the most up-to-date data based upon current research: Daily urinary oxalate excretion in healthy individuals: 10mg to 40mg. Average person's total capacity to metabolise and excrete (fecal) oxalate: around 250mg, depending on microbiome. That's 300mg in total that your body can process. And yet an average portion of spinach contains 1000mg. A spinach smoothie can top 2500mg of oxalate if you empty in the bag with some nut butter. So, let's look at that. You can excrete and/or metabolise 300mg daily. And yet you consume 2500mg in a day ... Or more ... Serious question, Lowell: Where do you think the rest went? Many people's microbiomes contain no oxalate degrading bacteria at all. Antibiotics wipe them out completely. But even if, let's say, YOUR microbiome is so damn exceptional that it can torch through 1000mg oxalate a day. You would still have 1500mg left in the tank. What do you think happens to that ...? If you eat low-ox' for the next week, your body may dump out the residue. But what if you are having those spinach and nut smoothies every day ...? I was. Along with piles of other high-ox' "superfoods". I was consuming 5000mg oxalate a day. Loads of people are nowadays. We are adopting extreme diets that we didn't have access to, even 100 years ago. Sure, fruit and vegetables are healthy, I eat them too. But humans simply aren't adapted to process three/four/five thousand milligrams of oxalate in a single day. Let alone, day after day for years on end. We need to make more informed choices based upon science and research.
@@justincanejo2744 Thanks for asking. It's still pretty horrible and full-on, to be honest, after 2 years low ox'. But I was consuming so much of the stuff, and for such a long time, it was never going to be a quick fix. I've had every test and tried every diet and supplement, the only thing that really reduces the symptoms is increasing my oxalate intake. That seems counterproductive at best, but it does reinforce the idea that the problems are all caused by dumping. I've become quite stoic, though. Are you going through this process yourself?
@@raceyjaseyAP50 carnivore diet for 4 years now. And yes everything you said is on point. I’ve experienced it all. Too stubborn to add in any extra. Even though I should. Keep at it. It’ll be worth it
He’s convinced me that oxalate crystals are a big problem and that they can easily accumulate and form when only slightly spiking in the blood. One thing to note is GI absorbtion can be massively higher with leaky gut. I think the only potentially high oxalate food I’ve been consuming lately is guava but I can’t find proper info on whether it really is high in it, so I think I’m as low on oxalates as you get on plant food. Interesting you say you have hemochromatosis, and consume a lot of red meat. Iron has been the one thing I avoid like the pest (in particular meat thanks to excessive farming feed iron supplementation) as its accumulation is the biggest factor in mitochondrial disfunction and thus most disease, I believe.
I had random neuropathy show up in both my lower legs with no known cause, even though lots of tests were done. I was having lots of smoothies, thought it was healthy. That was 7 years ago. I've been carnivore for 4 months and my legs are finally back to normal. 👍☺👍
Antibiotic usage puts you at increased risk of oxalate problems. Oxalobacter is particularly susceptible to antibiotics, and once killed you never get it back, and it's not available as a probiotics. Other oxalate-digesting bacteria are also destroyed.
@@versewriter8123 To some extent, some species of Lactobacillus and Bifidobacterium can. But Oxalobacter is the gold standard. People with oxalate problems usually lack Oxalobacter.
I thought I was getting sick from these plants I was eating but I thought I was crazy. I ended up just letting my body tell me what I should do and now I eat mainly meat. I'll admit that I do eat breads. But I honestly have no desire to eat veggies lol. I did buy this thiamine called Thiamax I take it with Benfotiamine. I think that doing it this way helps them both work together more potently. I dont eat loads of breads and those things just a few times a month. I believe that Thiamax and Benfotiamine pulls out the oxalates I'm probably wrong but I feel better taking it that way
I went vegan and the green smoothies gave me Fibromyalgia. When i started eating meat again many problems i had due to veganisem went away.. The pain in my joints didn't go away. It took me years of pain and CFS to find out my "super foods" were killing me.
Yeah, I bought into the "superfood" stuff too... I used to fix meals each Sunday for our big family dinners and plan carefully how to squeeze in more/different superfoods. My "best" meal ever included 23 different superfoods. Looking back, it was probably the least healthy meal I ever served my family. 😢
Soak beef liver in milk for one hour in fridge then empty milk in sink and blot the liver with paper towels a little and fry in lots of butter. Soaking the liver in milk this way gives it a nice mild sort of sweet taste and a creamy texture. Your liver is done when there's no more blood. Never eat bloody liver. Love the video and a lot of good info. Thank you.
Absolutely love your videos!! Curious, have you ever done one on eye bumps called a pinguecula? Wondering if they’re related to a specific deficiency Much love💕
I went carnivores to desperately try to fix a skin issue which ended up being an oxalate poisoning. I only realised this once I started dumping from my nipple, which my rash has been around my lymphatic system. Il
I had TWO frozen shoulders .... not because of a rotator cuff problem ...I was eating too many Oxalates (former thinking) while thinking I was healthy. There was a reason why Chia seeds were not allowed in our diets until the book burning was complete. You just don't tear your shoulder out of no where ... and the oldest profession in the book is getting paid for something you know is wrong!former thinking ...I am detoxing from parasites ....
This is common for diabetics. The glycated cartilage tissues become brittle and cause the pain. Eventually they will be renewed. You can help with daily, twice daily massages of the shoulder with arnica salve.
Suffering with the same issue now. Extremely painful doctors have no idea why. Cannot move shoulders on disability 😮I think it’s the detox process. . Brutal
Gut disbiosis will lead to oxalate poisoning. Healthy and specific gut flora will break down things like oxalates and lectins(limited) in a healthy way. The biggest problem is that antibiotics kill off beneficial gut flora and they are never replenished resulting in an unhealthy gut that can’t handle oxalate. Doing the work to improve populations of beneficial flora can take a lot of time vs carnivore adaptation. If adding vegetal foods back in, fermented foods will be necessary to replenish beneficial flora and overdoing it can have unpleasant effects. 🚽🧻👍😇
I'm not sure why she's smiling so much. I can tell you right now she didn't take you seriously. She went 100% carnivore for a while and bitched that it was making her feel worse and that the flaking on her scalp wasn't better. Umm could it be because she ate freaking sweet potatoes every day for a while? I used to follow her but I stopped when she did the 100% carnivore experiment and didn't attribute any of her symptoms to oxalate dumping, which was well after this interview. Don't get me wrong, I'm only about 95% carnivore but at least Im on a low oxalate diet since I'm aware of it's terrible effects.
This is a serious issue for some people and people in the carnivore community are recommending things that make it worse, like eliminate dairy products or go on the Lion diet. This is happening to me right now and I almost had to go to emerge a few nights ago. It's not fun. It's actually quite frightening. Thank you Elliot for the info and all your work on this issue.
Some facts that people don’t consider when wondering why vegetables are causing them problems: Nothing we are eating existed for our ancestors. Virtually everything is a hybrid or gmo. Our ancestors used plants as a survival food when they couldn’t get meat, or maybe indulged in some seasonal fruit just a few months a year. That fruit was also a fraction of the sugar content. Many of us old enough can even notice the difference between now and when we were children. Compare a wild strawberry or apple to what you get in the produce department. 10x sweeter than wild. Second, early humans, with the exception of some very tropical areas, ate animal flesh and milk most of the year. We developed very strong gut bacteria, that could easily handle the oxalates, lectins etc that we had minimal exposure to. We didn’t eat every damn 30 mins either. We didn’t have numerous environmental toxins affecting our gut health. I have found extraordinary results from an animal based diet. Carnivore is a healing diet, individual genetics/damage will determine how many fruits and vegetables you can work in after you have healed. Grains are nothing more than slave food.
Dr. Gundry is one of the reasons I’m sick from high oxalate. He has a UA-cam about eating the top three healthiest foods and two of them are okra and chard which are very high in oxalate so I ate them almost every day for a year. He also recommends lots of olive oil, which is high and salicylates, so I have him to thank for my oxalate poisoning.
I'm glad he spoke of the oxalate issue Remedy . I've seen many carnivore videos that do not tell of these side effects. Sally Norton speaks of this as well as a way to help release oxylates at a slower pace instead of going full on carnivore right away.
I also am eating mainly meat but have to have some starch, bread, white potato or rice in order to feel comfortable. I don't eat a lot, but like he said, a little of one is not going to do much damage. I also follow Dr. Chaffe & Dr. Saladino and of course, Sally K. Norton.
So many conflicting reports on what is high and what is low in oxalates. Potatoes are the perfect example. Some sites say sweet potatoes are low, some say high, some say it's mostly in the skins, some say it's in skin and flesh. Some say boiling or steaming reduces.
I'm seriously tired of trying to figure out what to eat. My cardiologist says to eat very little meat, if any. So no grains, pasta, meat, veggies, sweets, dairy and the list goes on. Am I supposed to live off of air!
I had dumped through urine about 6 months ago, kidney pain, pain on urination, thought I had a kidney infection but didn't. On providing a sample the bottom was completely full with crystals. I googled it and it said oxalates but no warnings it could cause harm. My father has end stage kidney failure and presents with issues I've got like joint, bone problems, neuropathy. Allergies, hives, urticaria rashes, the list goes on. Drs are stumped they have zero idea of what's wrong. I guess I'll try and find my way through this myself and start with a lower oxalate diet and map my progress. I think this has finally lead me in the right direction...
I’m not resistant to nutritional advice from people with good intentions my background is holistic nutrition as well but I think we really got to start bringing the teachings of intention and spirit and emotion and connection to the body as a simple practice. And yes portion control or constant consumption of same is a big deal. Tomorrow’s promised for no one respect your body your mind your spirit but most of all you came here to experience life and joy.
In the vast majority of kidney oxalate stone formations the causes are dehydration, low urine movement & inadequate vitamin C which only forms increased oxalates in “vitro” (urine in a petri dish) & not in vivo (in the body) of otherwise healthy kidney GFR presenters with moderate magnesium levels. By magnesium I mean a type that is bioavailable, which is usually not available on store shelves. Instead magnesium “oxide” is everywhere, which falls in the lowest 4%+- in bioavailable even in the presents of manganese, zinc, copper, etc. Apparently to few understand these EBM studied evaluations of the oxalate relationship and can give helpful insight that is sadly not being explained. It’s like people that think calcium & D3 are a panacea for optimum blood levels & proper site tissue delivery of calcium when other molecules must be present for that to happen, as well as the body having hundreds of vitamin D receptors. Otherwise what nutrients are you stating as having known reduced oxalate conditions?
Oxalate is very reactive to heat. When you cook or roast oxalate rich foods, oxalate will decompose to co2, co and water. There is 0.15 mg /100 gms of oxalate in raw almonds. However, if almond is roasted slowly for 15 mins, it will have only 0.02 mg. So heat does really gets out a lot of oxalate. However, soaking doesn’t remove much. Having lemon juice and herbs like phyllanthus Niruri eliminates some amount of oxalate.
I agree, this is incredibly difficult to figure out! I went full carnivore and now 5 days in. I am suffering greatly from it. Extreme nausea and diarrhea.
What I don’t understand is my mom is 73 and she has been eating mostly plant and high oxalate food almost her entire life and yet she’s healthier with no arthritis and healthier than everyone else around her. Who’s even younger
Maybe they need to fix their own microbiomes instead to dispose oxalates issues, eating fermented foods may help to reduce the crystals roaming in our bodies and what about the water we are drinking that is full of minerals like buildup in our kettle
I was unknowingly eating healthy foods that happened to be extremely high in Oxalates . During this time i was feeling like a was being poisoned. Went carnivore and problems are gone.
I am metabolically healthy, on 0 drugs, I believe I have a fast metabolism (but its not like I was ever tested for that), I have tons of energy (I just walked 11.64 miles today), my waist is 24 inches around, I am lean & muscular (especially my legs) and I cannot eat ANY oxalates! Eat a bit and I get pain in my body. I also have EDS, and a severe gluten sensitivity. I am mostly living on grass fed meat because I have problems with so many foods. I also have IgG reactions to many foods and I react to airborne cooking fumes & fumes from stuff like air freshener & perfume. Can't even eat 1 small kiwi fruit. Mainly eat lamb, beef plus a few carrots & prunes (organic of course). I also have problems with sulfur too. React to bananas which are low in sulfur but can't eat them. I do drink kombucha and that contains green tea and I do tolerate that. But I can't eat even a bit of the fruits or veggies that contain oxalates as I get joint pain pretty fast.
@@TheMiriam333 I get ringing in my ears even when upright (and when in bed if I roll over the ear ringing starts up right away very loud), it makes the Pots worse and then I am more likely to get that nausea feeling in certain positions, it gives me joint pain especially in my elbows, I get constipated, more gas & bloating. Plus my HRV just keeps dropping lower and lower too. I used to eat bananas all the time. Every day. And for years I had this awful lower back pain. It would come if I tried standing for a time in one spot or if I tried laying flat on my back. Also if I would start going for a walk my lower back would start killing me. Awful pain. Then I cut out bananas for a few months and tried eating them again. And boom! The pain was back! So these days I am almost carnivore. I do think my EDS gives me more gut issues & the MCAS than actual joint issues. But if I would be eating a normal diet of all that " healthy" produce my joints would be so bad I wouldn't be able to walk at all. I personally believe the high fat from the meat raises the LDL which helps heal the joints during deep sleep but that is just my opinion. I am not a doctor. My arms certainly failed a reflex test - the tendons are shot I guess. As soon as I try those produce items I get bad joint pain but my pcp can't understand why I won't eat the stuff. My baby finger sublaxes and I have had problems with my right shoulder for years since 2018 at least. And in the past I believe I had ribs sublax but at the time I was clueless what it was. The thing is I have autism, celiac (gluten sensitivity) and react to manmade smells too (mcas). My joints were definitely worse before I was eating all of this meat. Hope this helps. And its not just bananas. I actually got BAD ear ringing WHILE i was eating papaya. I guess that one was the worse in terms of the ear ringing causing foods. And watermelon makes my heartbeat skyrocket to 140+ while I am at a slow walk which is NOT normal at all.
@@TheMiriam333 the answer is to avoid those bad foods! Which unfortunately is most foods. I think I had leaky gut for many years which lead to countless food sensitivities plus one doctor I saw thinks its the MCAS. MCAS is often comorbid with hEDS. And the EDS I have is most likely hEDS. I certainly have the skin writing and everything that Dr Afrin mentions in his book "Never Bet Against Occam". And many people on the spectrum have problems with sulfur foods too. Its like they can't process it or something. For the moment I am just avoiding countless foods. The good news is that on this crazy diet I don't catch colds or flu! Haven't been sick since 2018 (and that was from someone who had convinced me to eat a small fruit pie - bad decision!!) ... But even during this pandemic had 0 symptoms of the C-19. I only get these dumb food reactions if I try a food. And I get burning eyes, brain fog, face swelling from stuff like air freshener (which would be the MCAS). But I do believe all of these conditions work together to make each other worse. I recall one time eating some bread from a bakery before I knew I was gluten sensitive and boy did it ever do a number on my knees! You would have sworn I had advanced arthritis!! I could barely get up onto the bus or even walk a block. And to get up off the toilet I had to hang onto the doorknob and pull myself up with great difficulty!! So these foods really affect the EDS. And it took a long time for the knees to heal! I was just diagnosed with EDS in Dec 2021. I am 50 now. But my whole life I had thought my joints were normal...never realized other people didn't have elbows that bended backwards or that they didn't have toes that go up 90 degrees in the air!
Green smoothies of spinach, almond milk, chia seeds, turmeric +ascorbic acid, dark choc obsession and often sweet potatoes, green match tea too! Almost every day for 10+ YEARS!! CHRINIC ILLNESS for past 6 years, chronic fatigue (pem) chronic neck pain, pms, mould sensitivity and SO MUCH MORE! This is pretty profiubd for me. Im now low oxalate last 2 days and going forward. Ive been poisoning myself for years and ive always felt POISONED. thinking ive been so healthy! Interested to see if this helps!
This Oxalate poisoning thing is no joke. It was the missing piece that was killing me slowly. Seemingly unrelated health problems disappeared when i eliminated oxalates and nightshade plant family foods!
Attempting to eat healthy has become maddening. It's as if this is part of some greater agenda to keep us all confused.
Totally agree with that comment.
Almost as if there’s an agenda to stop us eating vegetables! 😆
@@janedavis9930 he is telling you that, vegetables are not nutritios, like the spices, only meant for cleansing, they are indigestible cellulose. May as well eat cardboard.
Fiber is a lie! & cholesterol is good for us, so is fat and salt!
Omg totally… when I went grain-free and dairy free, I began pounding down the almond milk, almond flour, sweet potato… all healthy stuff… but then got joint pain issues!
Correct.
I'm 65, went carnivore and all the pain and stiffness in my knees stopped, went away, in one week. Thank for your videos.
How easy was it for you to go carnivore I am considering it, I am 60.
@@spiritofwisdom31 Easy to start it, hard to stay on it. It takes according to the doc 3-6 months to be fat adapted. I wasn't hungry, just very weak. So I would suggest doing keto with low oxylate foods. Cucumbers, lettuce, squash so your energy level stays up. That's what I am doing now and feel much better.
@@spiritofwisdom31 Easy to start it, hard to stay on it. It takes according to the doc 3-6 months to be fat adapted. I wasn't hungry, just very weak. So I would suggest doing keto with low oxylate foods. Cucumbers, lettuce, squash so your energy level stays up. That's what I am doing now and feel much better.
i will do the same and see what happens in 1 week!
You will generally get retracing as your body heals and has an increased capacity to eliminate toxins. So don't be surprised if you have days when you feel worse.
I used to drink pure kale juice and eat pounds of spinach everyday. I used to drink smoothies daily with blueberries and almond milk. I suffered from acne and joint pain in my hands, hips and knees. Suffered from painful kidney stones as well. Went pure carnivore and all my symptoms completely disappeared.
I got gout on a carnivore diet
@@timzstr then why are you watching this lol
May I ask what type of meat that you eat?
@@timzstr you get gout if you rush into it yes. carnivore helps but to get into it you need to get into it slowly. remove 25% of the plants u eat for a week, next week 25% more etc until its gone. gout happens if you firstly rush into changing a diet dramatically. your body gets a shock reaction and has to work harder and ur liver isnt used to work so fast. and don't eat too much fat too quickly either, slowly introduce it and increase it by 20-25% per week. the body needs time to adjust
@@mrwater2033 stfffu u idiot
My husband and I have been on carnivore for a month now. After a week, we felt terrible. We were both extremely fatigued. Previously, I was very healthy, no arthritis. Now, for the first time, I had a swollen ear, massive diarrhea, skin sore, and I was out of breath - felt like a heart thing. Other carnivore channels just say diarrhea will go away. They don't mention oxalate dumping. I ate lots of oxalates on keto diet for years, so I'm loaded. You are the only one I can find who gives lots of practical information on how to deal with oxalate dumping. I can't thank you enough!
How are you doing now?
@@tanyawieczorek6603 Much better, thanks. I got Sally's book, drink electrolytes and the suggested B vitamins, and eat mostly meat, eggs, dairy, plus low oxalate foods. Even minor problems I had before the dump are pretty much gone .. This experience was amazing, and I'm sharing it with friends who have chronic inflammation.
Only one meal, I ate a potato. My ear swelled up and was painful that night. Won't do that again.
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One of the main issues with fruit and vegetables is they’re all available throughout the year, so we’re eating food that is naturally out of season.
It's one problem yes, absolutely.
Most of those foods would never even be "in season" outside of a supermarket anyway.
you, not me.
One thing I learned is that you need the vegetables and fruits more in the summer when we sweat more due to hot weather . Wild fruits like blackberries, grapes and apples etc were naturally available in the hot season here in the US and they’re available year round in the tropics . Yams and sweet potatoes peppers and tomatoes grow wild in the tropics year round . I don’t worry too much about eating what is provided by god . Most of the hybrids we eat today have been changed drastically from what they once were so that may be part of the problem.
@@gregleach5833God has created poisionous plants and mushrooms too. Do you eat that?
I will say that finding about oxalates at this junction in my life has been a miracle. So many things make sense now. My platelets were going high again. They started to be dangerously high in 1995. I moved in late 1998 and found a tick doctor (I was lab tested positive for 3 different tick diseases). During this antibiotic treatments, my platelets went back to normal. It was an absolute miracle. However, my doctor died last year. I guess I need to give a bit of background. I was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2013. About 8 months later while on a road trip, my doctor called and said my blood glucose was dangerously high. I just cut out most carbs but not too strict. My brain was still a bit mushed from the cancer treatment and surgery. I was doing good but then I was diagnosed with ovarian cancer in 2019. It was caught extremely early. Genetic testing came out negative. It was here that I did more research and buckled down. I decided to eat a cancer starving way of eating. I felt fabulous. Then in the middle of 2022 I started eating more nuts. They were on my approved list so why not? I started making and eating chaffles made with almond flour. Then, slowly, my joints and back started hurting. It was very similar when I had untreated tick diseases. I was so scared it was coming back. Started cat’s claw and it helped with the joint pain but 2 months in, my joint pain seemed to be getting worse. Then my platelets started going up and up and up. I was scared witless. Went to a blood doctor. She tested for all the known JAK2 mutations, I was negative. She said I should go to an arthritis doctor. I knew enough that I knew this was not the way I needed to go. I was already doing a strict keto. Then all of a sudden I had oxalates videos coming over my UA-cam feed. At first I just scoffed because it was so difficult to believe that what vegetables I could eat was trying to kill my. I watched many different sites and it finally struck me that maybe, just maybe, there was something about this. It was so easy for me to just go carnivore with some cheeses, heavy whipping cream, and sour cream. Oh My Goodness! My joints no longer hurt. My back feels normal. I’m excited to get my blood tested because I know my platelets will be normal. FYI: I was told that the platelets are made in the bone marrow and that my platelets were increasing due to inflammation.
Why don’t doctors know about oxalates? I wish I knew about oxalates in 1995. Sure, I had tick diseases but with a healthy immune system, our bodies should be able to fight them. I was literally killing myself with healthy foods. I now know better - knowledge is power. But what is more powerful is to have the knowledge and the willingness to make sacrifices that will change my body/mind health. I am no longer ADHD - bonus. I now love my mind. I never ever cheat!
I have constant kidney stones, I'm hoping this is the key
@@seekthtruth i am shocked at how every day I feel healthier and healthier eating a carnivore with dairy (heavy whipping cream, butter, cheese, full fat sourcream). My mind is clear, my body feels amazing, i no longer have any joint pain. I’ve never had stones which I am so grateful for. But, if you can do this, you will see the changes in your total health. I will say that my cholesterol went up but my good cholesterol also went way up. I’m personally not concerned, I think everything Will work it’s way to my new normal. I just can’t believe how good I feel! I do not ever cheat.
Your story sounds so much like mine. Glad you can think outside the very Narrow minded uneducated medical box. Good for you!
Great story. Thank you. I just wanted to chime in that isn't eating heavy cream and cheese so good!? 😁
Thank you, great:-)
I ate spinach salads and large quantities of nuts along with curcumin supplements daily. Had total body pain, kidney stones, a quadracep tendon rupture and a lot of other symptoms for years culminating to a diagnosis of fibromyalgia. Found Sally Norton, got her book now I am in the dumping phase which is an adventure in and of itself.
I’m convinced fibromyalgia is actually oxalate poisoning, it seems highly tied to bladder/urinary issues as well…
@@smooth_pursuit or B1 deficiency, or overload of mercury in the body, or perpetual low virility stealth pathogens hiding in biofilms. The causes are many or multipronged. In other words it's different causes in different people.
@@Lisa-pw2he point taken and these things are usually multi-factorial.
@@smooth_pursuit Yes, multifactorial...or even domino effect. I wasn't being mean-spirited, btw. I've been through all sorts of hell illness and it just makes it clearer that many things can cause the same set of vague Fibro symptoms.
@@Lisa-pw2he no worries, I get you completely. A combination of factors can overflow the bucket. I wish you well!
I was VERY active when I got sick from oxalates. It was the oxalates that ruined my health in the first place. I was working outside, doing physical work, and inside doing very physical work, but I was eating high oxalate foods with every stinking meal. And of course, no doctor knew why I was feeling fatigued, why my joints stopped bending properly and why I had a positive ANA. They wanted me to take a bunch of drugs for the rest of my life. I had NO idea about oxalates. I tried every diet at the time that seemed "healthy" including (what a joke) juicing and doing juice fasts. I didn't even begin to feel like I was going the right direction until I found out about oxalates and stopped eating plants. Still lots of joint pain and joints that won't bend like they should, but I'm better now than I've been in years.
the ignorance of medicos is unfathomable. quite dangerous fellows.
Lol you are not alone I used to make spinach smoothie with grape tomatoes peppers and other veggies. I couldn’t understand why I got sicker instead of better.
Very educational story! Fits right in with Overton's explanations!
Sally Norton said that takes up to 10 years or longer to damp oxalate
And rush damping can cause problems
I've been suffering from the same symptoms and also recently had a positive ANA! Only recently discovered this information about oxalates. How soon did you begin to feel your symptoms dissipate?
I was completely unaware of oxalates, until I passed a kidney stone! I used an online list of oxalate contents and made an oxalate diary, and it's REALLY easy to eat below 100 mg per day. Most days I was eating less than 25 mg per day. Avoid potatoes, almonds, rhubarb, beans, and spinach and you are most of the way there. Fruit is almost oxalate-free, except for avocados. Some vegetables are very high, some very low, so looking at a list is useful. Grains, nuts, and seeds tend to be a problem, which counters everything you thought you knew about a "healthy diet".
I too was eating almonds to avoid 'junk food' and raw spinach. Developed kidney and bladder stones. Later found high oxalates in my urine.
What about coffee?
I am 100% i got Fibromyalgia at 25 from a oxalate heavy diet. At that time i also developed non stop UTI problems.
@@btudrus coffee has very low oxalates
@@regina6838 "coffee has very low oxalates"
I'm not really convinced that it is true. There are conflicting reports and there may be some issues with measuring oxalate levels.
I would like to see a good study yet which would convince me in either way...
This information needs to become main stream
more knows yes mainstream no they would add their off twist to it and ruin it mainstream is usually always done to harm people and control them the whole system needs to be cleaned out
We were never meant to eat a high amount of vegetables or grain. Thank you for the lesson.
We were never meant to eat animal flesh either!!!
@@stevenclark5682 Yeah! We were meant to swim nicely in the primordial soup like all the other good little cells, but someone had to have a bright idea and start evolving. It was all downhill from there on...
@@stevenclark5682 Says who?
@@stevenclark5682wrong
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Thats mainly ALL they ate in the Bible After the flood.the garden of eden was the perfect gardenand they ste fruits and vegetables.After Sin,the earth was cursed.The ground and plantshave never been the same.
This explains so much. I have autoimmune disease and refuse to take meds for it. My Dr suggested the plant paradox (focuses on lectin removal), which I went into 100%. I was 'cured' of so many problems! My inflammation went away, my skin cleared up, brain fog went away, I had massive amounts of energy, and I lost 50lbs. Then almost as suddenly, my symptoms started coming back no matter how 'clean' I was eating. I found my body unable to consume vegetables - any of them at this time make me sick. I've started to focus more on the meat, and I'm already feeling better. Turns out, all the vegetables I was eating that are lectin free, contain oxylates, so essentially I traded one toxin for another. It Makes sense I can't put anything green in my mouth without gagging. My body is telling me no! Thank you for this video. Another step to be taken on my road to healing. Bless.
Cook greens, soaked nuts and seeds, cook beans properly. This video is nonsense.
@@Fearzero I was eating that way. But unfortunately, also juicing way too many high ox foods. 15 yrs later, mostly recovered.
@@homeopathywellness1719 Juicing isn't good. Whole foods are.
@@Fearzero WRONG !
But, stick with your own knowing
you obviously trust it.
@@snowyowl6892 Every single disease is linked to eating animal products. The leading longevity researchers David Sinclair and Valter Longo agree that the prevailing science shows this. But hey random UA-cam guy keep eating that meat centric keto diet and see you in the cancer and cardiac ward by 55 years of age.
This is great info, when I was vegan I was eating nearly 100% Very High Oxalate foods😮 and I couldn't understand why I was dealing with so much pain🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
Hi from Ayla.. I am unable to eat vegetables and fruits.. I get sick .. I’ve been told it’s all in my head by doctors.. My Twin Sister has the same issue..
The Doctors DON’T LISTEN !!!!
Yes, its like a deer in headlights. I became my own doctor
Well most of them suggest you mutilate your sons penis right after birth so what do you expect.
@@sine8811 yeah and then fill us up with seed oils and sugar. not even an exaggeration.
@@SimplyHuman186 canola is an engine lubricant lol
Try the blood type diet. If you have a problem with fructose it could be amoeba overgrowth or broken genes in the liver.
Elliot you can change the world with this oxalate research, many i think are suffering from lower back pain and they dont know why
I had all of these symptoms. I was baffled as I couldn't figure out why so many foods caused me problems. Mind blown. I went carnivore and fixed most of this stuff. Now I know why I had the issues in the first place.
I quit coffee for Green Tea thinking I was doing myself a favour. It stirred up my Interstitial Cystitis and Fibro so fast. Wow. I stick to a low ox diet now!!
Also stirred up my IC and still experiencing the flare. Any suggestions to help temporarily while changing diet to low oxalates? 😩
@@barb987 I was recently diagnosed with mild IC. Green tea
Made me vomit if i had it. Now i know why. D Mannose is helping me. I literally felt i was peeing shards of glass or someone stabbing me.
@@itsagoodday2165 Exactly how I feel. So sorry. Thanks for telling me about this. Will try it.
Finally an explanation for why bread and carbs cause arthritis.
@@itsagoodday2165 YIKES. -
is D mannose to repair the kidneys ?
I was diagnosed as lactose intolerant years back. After research (websites and UA-cam) I was convinced almond milk is the best replacement for diaries. No where oxalate was mentioned. 😭
Now I have a dozen of health problems because of oxalate toxicity.
Try A2 milk from Jersey cows. It's much easier to digest.
I do too! Now I need to warn my kids, because a couple of them are eating "extremely healthy diets." And two of them already have symptoms like I had when I was younger.
How are you doing now?
I am the same. How are you doing a year later?
Thanks for asking.
After eliminating high oxalate foods, I generally feel much better.
Since my body has been suffering from oxalate accumulation, I still have to fight kidney stones.
I have also learned that high doses of vitamin B6 can cause oxalate stones to form. Don't introduce any medicine/vitamins/minerals to your body unless it is absolutely essential.
All the best!
right on elliot.
i love your passion.
you get excited and you go deep.
going deep shows your dedication to helping people by telling the truth and expanding your research to find facts.
you can’t argue with facts.
thank you for all your hard work.
I totally appreciate your talks on oxalate toxicity. I’ve been diagnosed with fibromyalgia for 28 years. I really think this has been ongoing oxalate accumulation for decades. I’ve also been diagnosed with Hashsimotos, hepatitis C, gut issues, neuropathy, UTIs, IC and arthritis. I’ve had all my Igg, Igm and other inflammatory markers come back “ within normal limits”, yet I’m having horrific pain everyday. I’m trying to decrease my ox intake to get to low/ moderate. It’s quite the journey. Thank you for sharing your knowlege
Great presentation on oxalates,
I had a big dump of oxalates,
I let my urine rest for 3 days, and believe me it contains a lot of oxalates, it was like sand in a large amount,
Elliot Oliver Gratitude
Brilliant explanation but it was difficult to watch Lillie Kane smiling while he described how destructive oxalate can be!
Ya the weird smile, this isn't funny to people experiencing this. She might be young but learning about all this in your 50s is nothing to grin about
@@seekthtruthThis is terrifying to learn about at any age. Idk how she was smiling. Strange indeed. But in a way it helped ease the grim mood from the information.
Ya, she should not be grinning like the Cheshire cat through the entire podcast. Very strange and annoying. If she had any idea the true and horrible suffering that is a reality with toxicity and dumping, she wouldn't be grinning.
Yeah, the woman looks like a dummy, clearly knows nothing!! Inappropriate smiling - she acts like a clown here.
Think she is just trying to look like she is listening
Tell her to stop smiling for the camera! Elliott keep it this way, you always have your normal expression and that's great.
I absolutely love Elliott and I'm gonna binge watch every video he's ever made over the next 48 hours ❤
Not difficult. ❤😂
I'm doing that now! Sick and tired of being sick and tired.....
In the first 10 minutes tou described my former diet to a tee. Green smoothies, almond everything, big green salads KALE KALE KALE!. After 20 yrs of eating what I thought was "clean" I have severe diarrhea, SIBO, EPI and a whole list of health problems that accompany these
Thank you so much for this, Elliot is fantastic! His information helped me so much!
I've recently found out about oxalates. This video is so informative & quite interesting! I've learned way more on this subject now.
This info is definitely beneficial to me!
Thank you!! 🙂
I had a Salicylate problem for years and if it hadn't been finally diagnosed I'd never have found out what was making me so ill. I mean, how many people stop eating vegetables? Once I completely stopped eating them, I was cured after just a few days but I still live, virtually on a carnivore diet now, and have done for many years.
I thought salicylate was in chicken and aged cheese.
You can be treated with Naet!
What were the symptoms of your salicylate problems?
Carnivore diet is cancer causing!!!
I am recovering from oxalate poisoning from my vegan superfood smoothies. I chose the carnivore way of eating, and know it all will take time. My balance is back I can walk without falling and my feet have healed. Sally K Norton, Toxic Superfoods would be a great interview.
I had car-t (lymphoma treatment) 4 years ago and continued what I thought was a very healthy diet…high in oxalates. About a year ago, I started having bubbling in my urine. I had no other symptoms, but it was concerning. I take no medications, only supplements and was very puzzled. I quit my supplementation and nothing changed. After starting to see articles/videos on oxalates, I reduced my consumption of oxalates and the bubbling slowly resolved. Started taking my supplements again and I am still having no issues. Seems like there was a good chance it was the oxalates causing my problem. Grateful for the information!
Why don’t you get rid of all plants? I could do a huge favor to your health
What are we to eat. I love my veg. I tried eating mainly meat,but couldn’t tolerate that either. So what is left to eat.??? I can’t eat bread etc.
@@maureenrees636 😮
This explains the issues being experienced over back pain inflammation, sleep issues and brain noises....
Having Chickenpox or Shingles allows the body to dump oxalates. When we get chickenpox as a child, it is mother nature doing an initial oxalate purge and the more oxalates in the body, the more pustules you will see.
Interesting . Could you post any further info ?
Thanks .
Very Interesting
Very interesting
Elliot is always great.
My uncle in Ireland ate 3-5 kgs. potatoes every day. He never drank alcohol and he never smoked. He was a bachelor. I believe the spuds killed him.
He probably died of boredom....
If you believe the Spud's killed him, then you'll also believe in the leprechaun's and the tooth fairy 🧚
Half old was he when he died?
@@MsStack42😂😂😂
Plant based diet + high oxalate literally had me crippled. I was on a "super food" wfpb vegetarian for 3 years, was eating yogurt and cottage cheese. Almost everything I was eating was high Oxalates in extreme amounts. Full bag spinach salads, omg I get chills thinking about it. By the end I literally became cripple, my body was breaking down so bad between the lack of meat and extreme amounts of plant. I was poisoning myself everyday. My back and joints were horrible I couldnt move both my arms at one point because my shoulders were so bad. I'm a mechanic so my injuries just never healed and joints just got worse.
The weird thing is you seem to get addicted to some of the foods. One such as pepper, I used to put like 10 of those little packs on my pizza at school.. used a ton of pepper my whole life. I started having back and joint pains at 20. Could never figure out why I was feeling 80 at 20. Going off plants for the last 4 years has given me less pain in my back and joints than I've had since 18, I'm 44 today.
I never had much dumping that I identified specifically. I started on raw Milk right away when I went "carnivore". That may have helped with dumping, I drank 2-3 gallons a week, did kefir with 1/3 of it most the time.
I'm glad you're open to the idea that plants increase their alarm molecules in relation to the assaults that they face in their environment such as oxalates and salicylates that then get transferred to us. What is wrong with the world is Short Memory. Both oxalates and salicylates are life chemicals that have been with us from the beginning but Poison Is In The Dose. So how is it that former civilizations consumed the same foods and thrived but all of a sudden the modern world is melting down after a salad?
NO ONE is taking an integrated look at The Problem. Part of the problem is a psyop called Raw Food. We developed cooking for express reasons of destroying anti-digestion (protease inhibitors) enzymes and if you had HARD WATER instead of municipal softened and aluminized poison then cooking alone would make soap of the oxalates and other toxins that could be skimmed while cooking.
EVEN PARROTS IN THE JUNGLE EAT CLAY BEFORE CONSUMING THEIR MAIN FOOD SOURCE THAT IS A POISONOUS NUT! Nature adapts, people are fools.
Yes, spinach is off the charts in oxalates. I hated it and swiss chard and beet tops since I was a kid. BUT what no one tells you is that beef, wheat, dairy, spinach, and lettuce also contain either opioids or their analogs so in a world where nearly everyone has over a dozen herpes-family viruses the ADDICTION to the OPIOIDS is what drives food choices. It's like being a drug addict without ever knowing that you were using a drug or addicted to it.
If you are referring to Black pepper then that is a unique chemical that inhibits certain cytochromes. Even the ancient yogis in India knew there were two kinds of people without the benefit of clinical science: those who could tolerate or benefitted from cytochrome inhibition and those who were made seriously ill from it. Pretty much I subscribe to the Three Stooges version of medicine: "Doctor! Doctor! It HURTS when I do this!" "Then don't DO that!"
I think 'dumping' is part of a psyop to get people's attention off of the fact that Roundup has so modified the entire biosphere that they talk about a word that has NO CLINICAL DEFINITION instead of doing root-case analysis. Cheers.
@@vaccinefraud5570 yesterday I was just berating some ppl for americans having such short attentions spans, we're on the pages. For sure. It only makes sense they would ramp up thier defense chemicals under attack since their only defense is chemical factories after all.
I'll read the rest and reply later
@@vaccinefraud5570 it was modern factory farmed pepper so imagine the toxins were higher. I liked spinach and those green things.. After wfpb with high amounts of fresh veg and super food I feel I was being poisoned every day during the diet. And I agree it's more than just Oxalates. I have a theory about my experience that I'll type up later to discuss.
@@jeremyr7147 I'm on the fence with the Blame The Victim conundrum, because all of our brains have been under continual attack. But there ain't no fixin' stupid. At some point basic survival is supposed to kick in to preserve the organism. Attention spans the length of toddlers, reasoning skills the power of flatworms, and since serotonin was destroyed with the gut bacteria (microbes make ~70% of the serotonin for the host) they lack all ambition as well. At this rate we shoule inherit the earth but who would want it?
Just to blow your mind: Did you know that Vitamin C the darling of all health nuts is a plant toxin put there to deter insect predation?
Caffiene is so toxic that it is sequestered in special cells of the coffee plant so that if you don't keep the leaves and beans and twigs away from the drip line it can kill the plant. Nicotine is a nerve toxin used to kill bugs....
hmmm... I think we came full circle to the opening of your comment...
@@jeremyr7147 I'd be very interested in your saga. Not so long ago black pepper and the spice cloves harvested by natives who then spread them out in the sun to dry with their feet. I have no idea how they do it in this mechanized world today.
"Oh, what a lovely Ham... what is that high note? cloves?"
"Thank you dear. I think that it is ode d' athlete's foot."
Really appreciate your directness in answers! You are clear and concise in your respone to questions!!
Thank you! I believe I started oxalate dumping and am experiencing a lot of the symptoms. Didn’t know what’s going on since I’ve been doing better with carnivore.
Also haven't heard Tart Cherry Juice mentioned at all which has veen clinically proven to reduce not only oxalate but purine as well.
I was diagnosed with low iron in may 2022 so I started taking iron and vitamin c supplement. My ferritin level was 4 so I wanted to improve that as soon as possible so I began a diet high in iron spinach and almond nuts etc… by mid august 2022 my joints and muscles almost locked down I was miserable and anti inflammatory med couldn’t help me enough to rest or to be productive . This is end of September 2022 and I have begun a low oxalate diet . I think this diet is an answer to pray and I can see this oxalate as problem in other people lives near me .
Re Iron in the body - listen to MORLEY ROBBINS. 👍
Hi, how are you feeling now?
@@snowyowl6892 Yes. Morley!
Thanks for the video. It is great to hear about what you eat! I also eat white potatoes and some rice and mainly animal protein. I don't follow a low oxalate diet, but eliminating vegetables has probably meant I am getting fewer oxalates. I appreciate the awareness around these issues. Thank you.
I had a very high Oxalate diet for most of my life (64 yrs) until close to 90 days ago I went carnivore. I was so sick with numerous issues including horrible daily leg pain, chronic exhaustion, sleep issues, weight issues, fibromyalgia, high insulin, and so much more. Since carnivore my leg pain is completely gone in the first week, I now sleep like a baby, (first time in years), have slowly lost over 20lbs; yet I'm having terrible back/rib pains when I get up in the am! It will dissapate as the day wears on, but always returns when I get up in the am. I also developed a bladder infection for almost 2 weeks (haven't had one in decades) when started carni. Tho I've gone from chronic exhaustion to chronic fatigue, to fatigue to just tired over the last 3 months. I share this for those who start a healthy carni diet but wind up with other issues. I know about OXALATES and believe I'm detoxing from them so despite the pain I still feel like I'm healing. I've gained so many benefits despite still not feeling my best yet because I do understand what this young man is talking about. Stick with your carnivore diet, study this, and or find a mentor. 👍
Almost all the foods I used to eat were loaded with oxalates. I had to change my diet drastically, but I am one of those who will probably take years to detox, if I live that long (I'm 70.) I do take Royal Chanca Piedra which helps dissolve the stones.
People are breathing low level hydrogen and reversing aging and all kinds of chronic illness. If you search George Wiseman Hydrogen, you'll find a bunch of lectures and videos about it. In rats treated with molecular hydrogen, they live 30% longer.
@@Lisa-pw2he Do you use this?
@@rohanawolf2089 not yet. I don't have money for it because illness has crippled me and I have virtually no income. I'm about to fundraise for it. There's medical research on molecular hydrogen use. The Japanese and Koreans are ahead of the curve on it. George Wiseman's videos are an excellent starting point to understand how this is working. He's also probably the person who has breathed it daily the longest. Like 8 years now.
@@Lisa-pw2he Love and blessings to you for healing and prosperity. 💗🙏
Chanca piedra is awesome! I bought and gave to a coworker who was dying from large stones and it helped her immensely. I dont have nor have ever had kidney stones, but as I pursue going off of oxylates, will this help me with dumping and crystals??
Most East Indian dishes are loaded with oxalates. I don 't think that they suffer from high oxalate symptoms. I wonder why.
I've been 90%+ carnivore for over a year now. Had all the healthy outcomes most significantly no diabetes. Now I'm suffering from lower left quadrant stomach pain (i.e., diverticulitis), hypothyroidism and gum issues. I suspect I'm oxalate dumping. Pretty frustrating! I still have a gut and I know its inflammation issues. Guess I'll have to be patient and slowly dump the oxalates out of my tissues. I'm frustrated because I really want to prove my doctor wrong! He doesn't care about auto immune issues because he doesn't know how to treat it.
If you add a little bit of oxalate food back in, it slows down the unpleasant dumping and just dumps at a more tolerable rate. Maybe a couple olives once in a while
Look into Intermittent Fasting, eating twice a day, B1 TTFD, confirm your MMC is working well. I wouldn't go full Carni get a little Oxalate to prevent dumping symptoms. Throw in a 24-48 hour fast couple times a year
Youve convinved me to switch from daily sweet potato for my main carb source to butternut squash, white potato, and more fruit. Pepper being high makes me sad
Peter D'Adamo and his father, through many decades of work, developed the Blood Type Diet. Each of the four basic types has foods that are beneficial, foods that are neutral, and foods to avoid - all based on many tests to determine which lectins affect which types, and how certain foods also disrupt or support the microbiome. I've benefitted from even loosely following the diet, and many even today report their issues being cleared up. Worth a look. (And BTW, the Plant Paradox book cribs from D'Adamo's work, although he never brings up blood types at all, so... stick with D'Adamo. Lectin considerations only make sense vis-a-vis blood types, and not on their own.)
I've done his diet I'm a boos type O myself ,and he does mention blood type O do better on carnivore diets because we don't do well with carbs,I followed his recommendations it worked but was having flare ups its oxylates so I decided to go full carnivore instead and see more improvement, but yes his book is awesome is just that years of eating oxylates ruin your health over time and I have celiac which makes oxylates work much worse as he stated in another video and now I understand my problem
@@admar6934 I've always wondered why different blood types exist in the first place. There must be a reason. Bart Kay (whose work I love) says that blood type has no bearing on what you eat. I believe he says that if you're a human, you're designed to be on a carnivore diet.
The blood type has worked for me I am a blood type O and according to Peter adamo Os are more of a carnivore less carbs at least 1 or 2x a week because our bodies don't do well in carbs and he mentions lectins and other things, he's Bern around for years so it gets me that he's this accurate and alit of people do carnivore but don't succeed they might in the beginning but then problems will come in the long run,everyone's body is different, but do remember God as our creator loves variety and he always mentions that life us in the blood because is where our DNA is found therefore he encourages us to respect ,and I don't know if you've seen recent articles where scientists are now speaking more on your blood type and the roles of different diseases so this is good news is coming out to light
I agree with you that blood group diet is so undervalued ...
or people are taking the essence of it and turning into their own version...
Yes we do ,foe me is all I can have meat especially red meat but I do eat blueberries and bananas that are beneficial for type Os but just see what works for you, and to stop carb cravings I have at least 4tsp of olive oil with lemon to get my fats any other fat for type Os makes them gain weight and olive oil doesn't do this
This has been a very educational video. Thank you very much. I just had an uretheroscopy done for a 10mm stone. And I have a ESWP scheduled for an 8mm in my kidney. Don’t or told me the stones are calcium oxalate. My problem has always been little or no water intake through out my life. Im 62 yrs old, weigh less than 100 lb. No joint problems. I consider myself very healthy apart from my kidney stones. So now I know what to avoid or restrict. Thank you!
Absolutely amazing presentation. I’ve been through a lot of these things and never knew why or how to fix. Thank you!!
Finding Low Oxalate diets is tricky. Each listing varies re: Low-High Oxalates. One list may say a food is Low and on another list it will be Medium or even High. There's no one listing to rely upon. Some foods show up High consistently, so those are clearly avoidable. It would really help if you would compile a new list.
He gives a website with an updated and accurate list in one of his videos:
ua-cam.com/video/bjOpzAiAkZw/v-deo.html
How good is prepared is super important
The lists that nephrologists have come up with are pretty good since they are the medical doctors that have cared about the oxalate problem. Coffee is known to help reduce oxalate kidney stones
Sally K. Norton also has a pretty good list on her website as well.
Yes it’s so frustrating trying to find a source of truth. The information is all over the place
I just started my Carnivore diet on July 4th n about 7-10 days into it I went to the ER cuz I had difficulty breathing . They did a cat scan n found that my Left lung had deflated a little n found mucous n start of Pneumonia. I assumed that I was Detoxing or Oxalate dumping. I have been suffering from chest congestion for over 10 years n had been taking Mucinex for 10 years. When I left the hospital, I got Antibiotics which I took for 2 weeks. I’m still recovering.. almost there .
When I first started carnivore, by the 3rd day I lost 2 pounds of water. I’ve always had water retention issues. My Lymph nodes on my neck right below the chin had been Swollen for over 25 years n at one point taking Steroids for 4 years n weend off N was on Tylenol around the clock shrank by 80%. OMG I was shocked!!!!! I have more energy, mental clarity, better Digestion, no more bloating n cramps. My fingers use to get numb while I was putting on my makeup but hardly ever now. My skin looks better, my pores shrank. But my skin started itching.. here nnthere n more on my extremities. I’m thinking that’s detoxing as well.my sleep is still not that great but we’ll see maybe by 3rd month I hope to see more amazing results.
This video was the best one yet regarding Oxalates… !!!! Thank you!!!
Have you heard of NAC it's amazing with lung issues... helps thin and clear out mucus. It helps in the production of glutathione which is our own powerful antioxidant produced by the liver. It's a game changer it really is. All the best 😊
@@lyntaylor4131 thank you, yes I’ve heard of it but did not know it was for lung issues. I will try it🙏
@lyntaylor4131 take NAC sparingly it can deplete minerals if over used.
If I’m not eating lots of citrus, I have serious problems with Oxalate. But, if I’m taking in citrus, I don’t have any issues!!
I did smoothies too. I believe they harmed my intestines. I was bloated and felt bad. Slowly learned about the carnivore lifestyle.
like wise i used to drink kale and spinach smoothie every day for over three years and i was allways bloated this was whiles on a vegan diet
@@darrenmcintosh8471
you were a collision course for major probs.
Carnivore diet leads to problems eventually too tho. It only helps in the beginning..by correcting deficiencies such as carnitine co q 10. Jordan Pederson daughter has reverted back to veggies in diet due to problems on carnivore
@@florrie8767 Mikhaila ! What ?
I am not rigid about carnivore …Must admit I do think about salads often and will eat avocado which a naturopath said was “almost a complete food” and paw paw/apples/oranges. Not to mention shrooms and onion with my steak. can’t go back to root veg tho - can’t enjoy them at all. In other words, I am not rigid.
Can you link me to where Mikhaila mentions her return to veg ?
really appreciated your post.
🙏🏻
@@snowyowl6892 I follow Paul Saladino and eat raw dairy, fruits and honey. It really works soo good with my body. And i have PCOS and still feel amazing not one gram of extra body fat.
I consumed 5 grams a day for ten years. It didn't kill me but, man, did it ***ck me up. I'm on 50mg a day now and dumping oxalate constantly. It's absolutely brutal. The problem is that, if your body can't excrete or metabolize your intake (and no one can with that quantity), you will probably redirect it to outlying areas where it will accumulate. That means you can go for a long time before you hit the crisis point. By then your health will be extremely compromised, and doctors won't know what is happening to you.
Having GI issues (autoimmune / leaky gut, dysregulated immune function) does not mean whole plant foods with oxalates are the problem.
Think gluten and Celiac disease Sensitive people need to remove oxilates temporarily until they fix there dysfunction.
Don't demonize plants with oxilates when it's certain individuals that are having a reaction that need to FIX their health issues and avoid oxilates until they do.
@@lowella8600 Here is the most up-to-date data based upon current research: Daily urinary oxalate excretion in healthy individuals: 10mg to 40mg. Average person's total capacity to metabolise and excrete (fecal) oxalate: around 250mg, depending on microbiome.
That's 300mg in total that your body can process.
And yet an average portion of spinach contains 1000mg. A spinach smoothie can top 2500mg of oxalate if you empty in the bag with some nut butter.
So, let's look at that.
You can excrete and/or metabolise 300mg daily. And yet you consume 2500mg in a day ... Or more ... Serious question, Lowell: Where do you think the rest went?
Many people's microbiomes contain no oxalate degrading bacteria at all. Antibiotics wipe them out completely. But even if, let's say, YOUR microbiome is so damn exceptional that it can torch through 1000mg oxalate a day. You would still have 1500mg left in the tank.
What do you think happens to that ...?
If you eat low-ox' for the next week, your body may dump out the residue. But what if you are having those spinach and nut smoothies every day ...?
I was.
Along with piles of other high-ox' "superfoods". I was consuming 5000mg oxalate a day. Loads of people are nowadays.
We are adopting extreme diets that we didn't have access to, even 100 years ago. Sure, fruit and vegetables are healthy, I eat them too. But humans simply aren't adapted to process three/four/five thousand milligrams of oxalate in a single day. Let alone, day after day for years on end. We need to make more informed choices based upon science and research.
@heymate how are you doing these days with the dumping?
@@justincanejo2744 Thanks for asking. It's still pretty horrible and full-on, to be honest, after 2 years low ox'. But I was consuming so much of the stuff, and for such a long time, it was never going to be a quick fix. I've had every test and tried every diet and supplement, the only thing that really reduces the symptoms is increasing my oxalate intake. That seems counterproductive at best, but it does reinforce the idea that the problems are all caused by dumping.
I've become quite stoic, though.
Are you going through this process yourself?
@@raceyjaseyAP50 carnivore diet for 4 years now. And yes everything you said is on point. I’ve experienced it all. Too stubborn to add in any extra. Even though I should. Keep at it. It’ll be worth it
He’s convinced me that oxalate crystals are a big problem and that they can easily accumulate and form when only slightly spiking in the blood.
One thing to note is GI absorbtion can be massively higher with leaky gut.
I think the only potentially high oxalate food I’ve been consuming lately is guava but I can’t find proper info on whether it really is high in it, so I think I’m as low on oxalates as you get on plant food.
Interesting you say you have hemochromatosis, and consume a lot of red meat. Iron has been the one thing I avoid like the pest (in particular meat thanks to excessive farming feed iron supplementation) as its accumulation is the biggest factor in mitochondrial disfunction and thus most disease, I believe.
Thank you both for this information!! ❤️
Something natural doesn't mean is healthy and not poisonous. Great info. Thanks
Hey Elliot. You seem particularly healthy masculine and very energetic in this video. Not that you have our seemed unhealthy. Good for you!
I had random neuropathy show up in both my lower legs with no known cause, even though lots of tests were done. I was having lots of smoothies, thought it was healthy. That was 7 years ago. I've been carnivore for 4 months and my legs are finally back to normal. 👍☺👍
This is what we need to hear. Well done to you.
Update: carnivore 1 full year now and feel like I'm in my 20's. Not bad for being 64! Going carnivore was by far the healthiest decision of my life.
Antibiotic usage puts you at increased risk of oxalate problems. Oxalobacter is particularly susceptible to antibiotics, and once killed you never get it back, and it's not available as a probiotics. Other oxalate-digesting bacteria are also destroyed.
OMG ..
Which are the other oxalate degrading bacteria?
@@versewriter8123 To some extent, some species of Lactobacillus and Bifidobacterium can. But Oxalobacter is the gold standard. People with oxalate problems usually lack Oxalobacter.
The only way for getting this bacteria again is doing FMT. I think that it's the real way to fixing dysbiosis after antibiotics intake.
@@Htrac what do you think about FMT?
I thought I was getting sick from these plants I was eating but I thought I was crazy. I ended up just letting my body tell me what I should do and now I eat mainly meat. I'll admit that I do eat breads. But I honestly have no desire to eat veggies lol. I did buy this thiamine called Thiamax I take it with Benfotiamine. I think that doing it this way helps them both work together more potently. I dont eat loads of breads and those things just a few times a month. I believe that Thiamax and Benfotiamine pulls out the oxalates I'm probably wrong but I feel better taking it that way
I went vegan and the green smoothies gave me Fibromyalgia. When i started eating meat again many problems i had due to veganisem went away.. The pain in my joints didn't go away. It took me years of pain and CFS to find out my "super foods" were killing me.
Yeah, I bought into the "superfood" stuff too... I used to fix meals each Sunday for our big family dinners and plan carefully how to squeeze in more/different superfoods. My "best" meal ever included 23 different superfoods. Looking back, it was probably the least healthy meal I ever served my family. 😢
@@wingabouts I know. I don't wanna talk about the money i spent on all the seeds, pills and powders..Crazy.
Soak beef liver in milk for one hour in fridge then empty milk in sink and blot the liver with paper towels a little and fry in lots of butter. Soaking the liver in milk this way gives it a nice mild sort of sweet taste and a creamy texture. Your liver is done when there's no more blood. Never eat bloody liver. Love the video and a lot of good info. Thank you.
I think high oxalate can cause high blood pressure.
Absolutely love your videos!!
Curious, have you ever done one on eye bumps called a pinguecula? Wondering if they’re related to a specific deficiency
Much love💕
I went carnivores to desperately try to fix a skin issue which ended up being an oxalate poisoning. I only realised this once I started dumping from my nipple, which my rash has been around my lymphatic system. Il
I had TWO frozen shoulders .... not because of a rotator cuff problem ...I was eating too many Oxalates (former thinking) while thinking I was healthy. There was a reason why Chia seeds were not allowed in our diets until the book burning was complete. You just don't tear your shoulder out of no where ... and the oldest profession in the book is getting paid for something you know is wrong!former thinking ...I am detoxing from parasites ....
What was the cause of a rotator cuff tear - was it definitely oxalates?
@@snowyowl6892 It never tore ...Build up of oxalates from food choices.
This is common for diabetics. The glycated cartilage tissues become brittle and cause the pain. Eventually they will be renewed.
You can help with daily, twice daily massages of the shoulder with arnica salve.
Suffering with the same issue now. Extremely painful doctors have no idea why. Cannot move shoulders on disability 😮I think it’s the detox process. . Brutal
@@foxyauragems6146 Try massages with arnica salve or gel (available at Walmart). Daily if possible.
Gut disbiosis will lead to oxalate poisoning. Healthy and specific gut flora will break down things like oxalates and lectins(limited) in a healthy way. The biggest problem is that antibiotics kill off beneficial gut flora and they are never replenished resulting in an unhealthy gut that can’t handle oxalate. Doing the work to improve populations of beneficial flora can take a lot of time vs carnivore adaptation. If adding vegetal foods back in, fermented foods will be necessary to replenish beneficial flora and overdoing it can have unpleasant effects. 🚽🧻👍😇
I'm not sure why she's smiling so much. I can tell you right now she didn't take you seriously. She went 100% carnivore for a while and bitched that it was making her feel worse and that the flaking on her scalp wasn't better. Umm could it be because she ate freaking sweet potatoes every day for a while? I used to follow her but I stopped when she did the 100% carnivore experiment and didn't attribute any of her symptoms to oxalate dumping, which was well after this interview. Don't get me wrong, I'm only about 95% carnivore but at least Im on a low oxalate diet since I'm aware of it's terrible effects.
Yeah I checked her instagram, seemed like a fad influencer to make $ rather than someone with conviction and wanting to improve themselves.
I stopped watching her as well. Non stop smiling and dancing around instead of serious subjects was too much.
This is a serious issue for some people and people in the carnivore community are recommending things that make it worse, like eliminate dairy products or go on the Lion diet. This is happening to me right now and I almost had to go to emerge a few nights ago. It's not fun. It's actually quite frightening. Thank you Elliot for the info and all your work on this issue.
Some facts that people don’t consider when wondering why vegetables are causing them problems:
Nothing we are eating existed for our ancestors. Virtually everything is a hybrid or gmo. Our ancestors used plants as a survival food when they couldn’t get meat, or maybe indulged in some seasonal fruit just a few months a year. That fruit was also a fraction of the sugar content. Many of us old enough can even notice the difference between now and when we were children. Compare a wild strawberry or apple to what you get in the produce department. 10x sweeter than wild.
Second, early humans, with the exception of some very tropical areas, ate animal flesh and milk most of the year. We developed very strong gut bacteria, that could easily handle the oxalates, lectins etc that we had minimal exposure to. We didn’t eat every damn 30 mins either. We didn’t have numerous environmental toxins affecting our gut health.
I have found extraordinary results from an animal based diet. Carnivore is a healing diet, individual genetics/damage will determine how many fruits and vegetables you can work in after you have healed. Grains are nothing more than slave food.
Been keto,for a while, now carnivore, omg, feel SO MUCH BETTER!
Dr. Gundry is one of the reasons I’m sick from high oxalate. He has a UA-cam about eating the top three healthiest foods and two of them are okra and chard which are very high in oxalate so I ate them almost every day for a year. He also recommends lots of olive oil, which is high and salicylates, so I have him to thank for my oxalate poisoning.
I'm glad he spoke of the oxalate issue Remedy . I've seen many carnivore videos that do not tell of these side effects. Sally Norton speaks of this as well as a way to help release oxylates at a slower pace instead of going full on carnivore right away.
I also am eating mainly meat but have to have some starch, bread, white potato or rice in order to feel comfortable. I don't eat a lot, but like he said, a little of one is not going to do much damage. I also follow Dr. Chaffe & Dr. Saladino and of course, Sally K. Norton.
Check out Bart Kay though. I find him much more knowledgeable about carbohydrates, even though I don't like the message (zero carbs are best)!
@@TerriblePerfection Thanks I will.
So many conflicting reports on what is high and what is low in oxalates. Potatoes are the perfect example. Some sites say sweet potatoes are low, some say high, some say it's mostly in the skins, some say it's in skin and flesh. Some say boiling or steaming reduces.
Epsom salt baths! 1/4 cup every other day...
I'm seriously tired of trying to figure out what to eat. My cardiologist says to eat very little meat, if any. So no grains, pasta, meat, veggies, sweets, dairy and the list goes on. Am I supposed to live off of air!
Your doctor is ignorant
Eat the meat and fat.
I had dumped through urine about 6 months ago, kidney pain, pain on urination, thought I had a kidney infection but didn't. On providing a sample the bottom was completely full with crystals. I googled it and it said oxalates but no warnings it could cause harm.
My father has end stage kidney failure and presents with issues I've got like joint, bone problems, neuropathy. Allergies, hives, urticaria rashes, the list goes on. Drs are stumped they have zero idea of what's wrong.
I guess I'll try and find my way through this myself and start with a lower oxalate diet and map my progress. I think this has finally lead me in the right direction...
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@@yasminebekdache1552 I will, thank you!
I’m not resistant to nutritional advice from people with good intentions my background is holistic nutrition as well but I think we really got to start bringing the teachings of intention and spirit and emotion and connection to the body as a simple practice. And yes portion control or constant consumption of same is a big deal. Tomorrow’s promised for no one respect your body your mind your spirit but most of all you came here to experience life and joy.
In the vast majority of kidney oxalate stone formations the causes are dehydration, low urine movement & inadequate vitamin C which only forms increased oxalates in “vitro” (urine in a petri dish) & not in vivo (in the body) of otherwise healthy kidney GFR presenters with moderate magnesium levels. By magnesium I mean a type that is bioavailable, which is usually not available on store shelves. Instead magnesium “oxide” is everywhere, which falls in the lowest 4%+- in bioavailable even in the presents of manganese, zinc, copper, etc.
Apparently to few understand these EBM studied evaluations of
the oxalate relationship and can give helpful insight that is sadly not being explained.
It’s like people that think calcium & D3 are a panacea for optimum blood levels & proper site tissue delivery of calcium when other molecules must be present for that to happen, as well as the body having hundreds of vitamin D receptors.
Otherwise what nutrients are you stating as having known reduced oxalate conditions?
Oxalate is very reactive to heat. When you cook or roast oxalate rich foods, oxalate will decompose to co2, co and water. There is 0.15 mg /100 gms of oxalate in raw almonds. However, if almond is roasted slowly for 15 mins, it will have only 0.02 mg. So heat does really gets out a lot of oxalate. However, soaking doesn’t remove much. Having lemon juice and herbs like phyllanthus Niruri eliminates some amount of oxalate.
I guess I’ll be a breatharian
I agree, this is incredibly difficult to figure out! I went full carnivore and now 5 days in. I am suffering greatly from it. Extreme nausea and diarrhea.
What I don’t understand is my mom is 73 and she has been eating mostly plant and high oxalate food almost her entire life and yet she’s healthier with no arthritis and healthier than everyone else around her. Who’s even younger
He did briefly touch on that. Superior metabolic health can save you from oxalate toxicity.
There is so much more to this. I’m with your mom !!!! I won’t eat dead animals . Check out the China study. Not good as you get older
What should one eat? This is so frustrating.
Yes! Exactly! Especially if you don’t want to eat meat bc of the horrible industry and the effect on the planet…
The best video on oxalates I’ve seen!
This girl lookin at you like shes in love.
In love with the truth - which can set us free …
You must be new to her channel. She always looks like that. Especially when she looks at butter!
Yeah, she's strangely smiling at him the whole time! She is a little bit overly excitable, you might say. I've watched a few other of her videos
Thanks for all your work..amazing this guy he is..
Vitamin C is converted to Oxalate when it is eliminated. Does this mean we can’t take Vitamin C?
camu camu, also?
low dose only 25-50 mg a day of vit C i think
Great you two talking about oxalate poisening❤.👌💪
Maybe they need to fix their own microbiomes instead to dispose oxalates issues, eating fermented foods may help to reduce the crystals roaming in our bodies and what about the water we are drinking that is full of minerals like buildup in our kettle
Thank you! Great stuff!
What isn't bad for us these days? Seems like it's either die slowly from eating or starve to death.
Exactly. Most things in moderation are good- in fact can be healthy…
Life changing! Thank you!
I was unknowingly eating healthy foods that happened to be extremely high in Oxalates . During this time i was feeling like a was being poisoned. Went carnivore and problems are gone.
Thank you God for UA-cam XXXX GAME CHANGER...ROCK ON ELLIOT Xn
I am metabolically healthy, on 0 drugs, I believe I have a fast metabolism (but its not like I was ever tested for that), I have tons of energy (I just walked 11.64 miles today), my waist is 24 inches around, I am lean & muscular (especially my legs) and I cannot eat ANY oxalates! Eat a bit and I get pain in my body. I also have EDS, and a severe gluten sensitivity. I am mostly living on grass fed meat because I have problems with so many foods. I also have IgG reactions to many foods and I react to airborne cooking fumes & fumes from stuff like air freshener & perfume. Can't even eat 1 small kiwi fruit. Mainly eat lamb, beef plus a few carrots & prunes (organic of course). I also have problems with sulfur too. React to bananas which are low in sulfur but can't eat them. I do drink kombucha and that contains green tea and I do tolerate that. But I can't eat even a bit of the fruits or veggies that contain oxalates as I get joint pain pretty fast.
EDS, too. What happens to you when you eat a banana?
@@TheMiriam333 I get ringing in my ears even when upright (and when in bed if I roll over the ear ringing starts up right away very loud), it makes the Pots worse and then I am more likely to get that nausea feeling in certain positions, it gives me joint pain especially in my elbows, I get constipated, more gas & bloating. Plus my HRV just keeps dropping lower and lower too. I used to eat bananas all the time. Every day. And for years I had this awful lower back pain. It would come if I tried standing for a time in one spot or if I tried laying flat on my back. Also if I would start going for a walk my lower back would start killing me. Awful pain. Then I cut out bananas for a few months and tried eating them again. And boom! The pain was back! So these days I am almost carnivore. I do think my EDS gives me more gut issues & the MCAS than actual joint issues. But if I would be eating a normal diet of all that " healthy" produce my joints would be so bad I wouldn't be able to walk at all. I personally believe the high fat from the meat raises the LDL which helps heal the joints during deep sleep but that is just my opinion. I am not a doctor. My arms certainly failed a reflex test - the tendons are shot I guess. As soon as I try those produce items I get bad joint pain but my pcp can't understand why I won't eat the stuff. My baby finger sublaxes and I have had problems with my right shoulder for years since 2018 at least. And in the past I believe I had ribs sublax but at the time I was clueless what it was. The thing is I have autism, celiac (gluten sensitivity) and react to manmade smells too (mcas). My joints were definitely worse before I was eating all of this meat. Hope this helps. And its not just bananas. I actually got BAD ear ringing WHILE i was eating papaya. I guess that one was the worse in terms of the ear ringing causing foods. And watermelon makes my heartbeat skyrocket to 140+ while I am at a slow walk which is NOT normal at all.
@@sarahb.6475 I hope you find your answer! Elliott is doing so much to get good info out there.
@@TheMiriam333 the answer is to avoid those bad foods! Which unfortunately is most foods. I think I had leaky gut for many years which lead to countless food sensitivities plus one doctor I saw thinks its the MCAS. MCAS is often comorbid with hEDS. And the EDS I have is most likely hEDS. I certainly have the skin writing and everything that Dr Afrin mentions in his book "Never Bet Against Occam". And many people on the spectrum have problems with sulfur foods too. Its like they can't process it or something. For the moment I am just avoiding countless foods. The good news is that on this crazy diet I don't catch colds or flu! Haven't been sick since 2018 (and that was from someone who had convinced me to eat a small fruit pie - bad decision!!) ... But even during this pandemic had 0 symptoms of the C-19. I only get these dumb food reactions if I try a food. And I get burning eyes, brain fog, face swelling from stuff like air freshener (which would be the MCAS).
But I do believe all of these conditions work together to make each other worse. I recall one time eating some bread from a bakery before I knew I was gluten sensitive and boy did it ever do a number on my knees! You would have sworn I had advanced arthritis!! I could barely get up onto the bus or even walk a block. And to get up off the toilet I had to hang onto the doorknob and pull myself up with great difficulty!! So these foods really affect the EDS. And it took a long time for the knees to heal! I was just diagnosed with EDS in Dec 2021. I am 50 now. But my whole life I had thought my joints were normal...never realized other people didn't have elbows that bended backwards or that they didn't have toes that go up 90 degrees in the air!
@@sarahb.6475 Thank you for sharing your story! What is EDS though?
Green smoothies of spinach, almond milk, chia seeds, turmeric +ascorbic acid, dark choc obsession and often sweet potatoes, green match tea too! Almost every day for 10+ YEARS!!
CHRINIC ILLNESS for past 6 years, chronic fatigue (pem) chronic neck pain, pms, mould sensitivity and SO MUCH MORE!
This is pretty profiubd for me. Im now low oxalate last 2 days and going forward. Ive been poisoning myself for years and ive always felt POISONED. thinking ive been so healthy!
Interested to see if this helps!
I wonder if most all lower back pain is due to calcium oxalates?
This Oxalate poisoning thing is no joke. It was the missing piece that was killing me slowly.
Seemingly unrelated health problems disappeared when i eliminated oxalates and nightshade plant family foods!
Oxalate is not a joke! My 25 yo friend died after a vacation trip, where he drunk few glasses of star fruit juice.
WHAT !!!
Naww that's wilddddd