Podcast Episode 207: Oxalates and Why You Need Fermented Foods
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2022
- Oxalic acid is an organic compound found in many plants that we eat. In fact, all plants produce oxalic acid at various levels. Higher oxalates in the body that aren't broken down can produce kidney stones, joint pain, fibromyalgia, or inflammatory bowel disease. But the good news is that there are bacteria in your body and in fermented foods that break down these oxalates and render them harmless. Tune in to learn more.
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Every time I hear a doctor or anyone talking about the "power of the mind" I laugh... The power of the gut bacteria" that microbiome owns us
RIGHT !
When I eat spinach my joint pains come back... I stopped eating spinach after watching a video about oxalates. I love fermented foods!
@@KingRDC yes me too 🙌
I just made my first kefir. I am so happy! I second fermented it with strawberries and made a smoothie. Gulped it right down. Yum! I have severe IBS so I was like: take that, bad bacteria! I am making my second batch already. Thank u!
is it really tricky to do?...i just got my grains, for both milk Kefir & water kefir...but...so far..inexplicably..i've been very wary of actually making them...i have severe IBS too & was afraid this might make it even worse...cos milk does.
@@NuLiForm No! Do it! It will help your stomach.
Okies!...i'll make a half gallon of each right after i get the supper started...Thank You for the Quick reply! Very Appreciated :) @@catalina8677
Sounds delicious 🤤
I’m currently eating 100% carnivore which has led to some oxalate dumping so I wanted to learn more about it and how to navigate around it particularly because I don’t see myself sustaining this way of eating indefinitely, though some do. I’ve had great experiences with fermented foods in the past and am finding great value in what you’re presenting. 👍💯🇨🇦😇
Me too...Heart palpitations being one. I'll have to try fermented foods.
I’m right there too!
@@meatavoreNana me too, the heart palpitations were non stop,
I decided to go animal based and add fermentation foods to heal my gut. 😢
Same!
Having great results with l. reuteri yogurt fermented for 36 hours. My overall weight, skin and sleep have improved right away.
Where do you get l. reuteri yogurt?
@@JoeS97756 honestly, after lots of reading on strains of lactobacilli and their supposed effects, isolation of particular ones make no sense to me. Sales scam! My theory: the 36-hour fermentation period enhances l. Reuteri as well as a few others. Bacteria are everywhere! Prior to this yogurt, dairy of any kind gave me noticeable gut and bathroom challenges. I now enjoy limited cheese and cream products with little effort. Key is limited.
@@JoeS97756you make it yourself. Donna sells the starter and has videos of how to make it.
@EricS977 u gotta make it. Theres lots of dirrections online
How long did it take for the results?
Just re-watched your video after scarring myself watching video on oxalate poisoning, 3 weeks into taking kefir . A lot calmer now thanks to you.x
I’m now eating a carnivore diet (18 months) and have had massive issues with oxalate dumping. However, I’ve eaten fermented foods for over a decade prior to carnivore. Lots of fermented veg, kefir, sourdough etc. it didn’t stop the oxalates building up in my body from all the high oxalate foods and it didn’t keep my B6 levels up. So I think it depends… I’m about to start on the L Reuteri so will see how that goes and I think I’ll get back on the kefir and sauerkraut. Hoping that the combo works for me with the carnivore diet because the meat has made more difference to my health than anything else ever.
Most monodiets do seem to yield amazing results, as long as they do not become a way of life. Meat, which is actually dead animal flesh, has its own toxins, which cannot be managed as oxalic acid in plants can be, by judicious use of fermenting of foods and other technics... such as the Asians who dry-grill before cooking all seeds used like grains --millet, buckwheat, and quinoa falls into this category, too, etc-- thus instinctively reducing oxalic acid. Humans are not carnivores, with short intestines to quickly expel toxins, but rather the long human intestinal tract, holding and absorbing ingested food for 3 or more days, on average, is conducive to colon and other forms of cancer. And these latter cannot be managed with fermented foods, etc. It seems to me our ancestors managed the oxalic acid problem by balancing acid and alkaline, by seasonal 'house-cleaning' with fruit and other fasts (all but forgotten in our consumer-society food glut), by fermented foods, even if only 'buttermilk', sauerkraut, and dill pickles... and they did a pretty good job of it, too, by and large, comparing cancer and other health statistics then and now. Watch out for a carnivore diet long-term... Leaked autopsy report information on Dr Robert Atkins revealed that he died --prematurely-- with obesity and cardio-vascular disease... And he wasn't even an exclusive carnivore... We should keep the wisdom of our ancestors in mind when we hear all the modern hype, invented yesterday, which creates panic that leads to bad food choices, which, just coincidentally, benefit certain food industries which are known not to have the public's best interests at heart.
@@guenadyguenady4773 there are many problems with the diets most people eat today, but when talking about our ancestors, you may want to go back just a bit further. What did humans eat prior to the last 10,000 years? The answer is (mostly) meat and fat. Humans were hunters and plant foods were very much a secondary choice. In fact some cultures had no access to plants during the ice ages and in the icier regions of the world. I used to believe what you believe about our intestines, but we're not designed to eat large amounts of plant food. Those animals who are created that way have a very different digestive system to ours. Ruminant animals have several stomachs with bacteria to break down the cellulose in plants, but do you know that the animal actually lives on? FAT. The bacteria turn the grass and plant material into fat. Chickens and birds have a crop to manage seeds - again with bacteria that break down the plant material and handle the toxins in the seeds, but they live on fat as the bacteria in their crop convert the plant material into fat. I used to believe that our digestive systems was somewhat like our closer relatives, the great apes. But when you look at a gorilla, or an orangutan, they have huge bellies and inside those bellies they have a huge cecum (unlike ours) which again has bacteria to convert the plant material into fat for them to live on. Our digestive system is different and while we can obviously survive on plant material, it is not optimal and meat is much easier to digest and much higher in nutrition. Chimpanzees (our closest relative within the animal kingdom) hunt and eat meat. I can tell you after a lifetime of a highly plant based diet, vegetarian and vegan for many years, that eating a mostly meat diet is improving my health more than anything I've ever experienced. But you won't understand. I wouldn't have either. It was on once I made the decision to let go of my beliefs and actually try this for myself that I FELT the difference in my body and my damaged digestive system, and experienced the changes that have kept me on this way of eating for two years now. I'll never go back to eating the way I used to.
@@SueWoledge : Hi, Sue. Had to give priority to a family issue, but here I am back again, as I do think the questions raised by you are very important. I'm probably older than you, which means I've had more time to see and hear anecdotal evidence, plus live my own experiments... So, I know almost any monodiet will be helpful, sometimes spectacularly so, for a while. Those who eat mostly veggies and ignore the acid/alkaline balance, never fast or do any internal housekeeping, who seldom eat cultured foods, will likely, someday, severity depending on the specifics of their diet and their heredity, suffer from an acid/alkaline imbalance. With a little attention to how our ancestors did things, including fasting (at least seasonal fruit fasts), buttermilk, sauerkraut, fermented dill pickles, or other cultured foods, we can avoid the problem. But make dead animal flesh the only or even just main staple of a long-term diet, and you have a recipe for disaster. Witness the explosion in the number of cases of diabetes, cardio-vascular disease, and cancer since meat became an inexpensive mainstay in the diet of industrialized countries, since intensive farming, turning farms into factories, became widespread and common, since WWII. And none of these problems are as easy to deal with as an acid/alkaline imbalance... We have to think these things through ourselves, since the printed and taped word are nowadays more than ever controlled by rich men and their friends who get richer every day by controlling the information (or disinformation) that is permitted to be disseminated. I will leave the question at that, without delving in to the spiritual aspect, of having to live by the deaths of other hapless, helpless creatures, although it is important for many, me among them... If we were smart, maybe, we'd eat like the apes, only fruits, which is what out guts were designed for (and our teeth, too)...
Hi Donna, I appreciate you so much! I gave learned so much from you. I started seeing benefits after 2 weeks of kefir. Now, 2 & 1/2 months later, I am feeling much better.. thank you so much! 💓
I've been drinking my Kefir everyday. Probably may drink too much, but I'm telling you I'm beginning to feel like when I was young 😂
I love this feeling. I have a few autoimmune disorders the doctors don't even know what they are, but they're going away 🎉🎉😊. The Kefir and some fermented foods are all I'm doing. I couldn't even eat because of blisters in my mouth and down my esophagus. My digestive system was almost shot. I'm a firm believer 😊❤ Thank you Donna ❤❤
Have you always tolerated dairy? Don’t buy the kefir or make it? If you buy it what brand and from where? Thank you:)
Such a great podcast! Thanks Donna! God bless!
Let food be thy medicine.
- some old guy 🫠
You are just straight up AWESOME!
Your energy is so soothing. An empath for sure 🫶🏻
You have a very calming voice! It makes it easy to listen to you!
Hi Donna, I am currently making kefir from goat milk and tolerating it and always looking forward to it. My oxalate problem is very real and a very serious case for a number of reasons, but mainly because I was only diagnosed with celiac in my 50's and had been having gut trouble for most of my life. People with gut issues can absorb up to 70% more oxalates (and that is not to mention the oxalates that our liver makes or the endogenous formed oxalates from nutrient deficiencies -ie lack of various b's and various strains of bacteria, even amongst these 2 nutrients themselves). I do believe the oxalate burden has caused my crohns and colitis. For most folks, you are right, its not a huge issue, but for some, like myself and Sally Norton (Sally and I share very similar stories, but I would say my burden is probably worse than hers) it can be very serious. I will not share here what I have experienced because it would go on too long, but I can tell you, I was getting my affairs in order. I have been on a carnivore/animal based diet for almost 5 yrs now, still struggling, have been a a roller coaster, better is some areas, and many times, worse in other areas, but progressing slowly. My weight is more stable now but the road to recovery is a long one for me. Most people will do well with just awareness of the benefits of kefir and cultured foods and eating well.
Now to my question, I did try to make the rueteri yogurt but it was a bust and I ended up having to toss it because it separated and curdled. I guess the temp was too high. "Once burned, twice shy" is what I'm feeling now because it is a little bit of an expense for me to buy the biogaia reuteri and milk and have it flop. I used a instapot, is there a more reliable way to do this so that I dont mess up again. We live in Canada too and it can get very cold in the winter and very humid in the summer. I'm certain the reuteri yogurt would help me, just scared now and would really like to get going on this.
Next question, do you consume the reuteri yogurt with kefir at the same time or do you keep space between different bacteria strains? And do you use kefir and or reuteri an hour or so before you eat a meal or does it matter at all when you consume them?
I would love to spend just one week in your home with you, lol.
Many thanks
Look at a Luvele yogurt maker. After several yogurt failures, this one finally works.
Thank you Martha@@marthavanderpool6829
Consider buying a dehydrator the type where you can be more precise with temperature, I have the Cosori and have had great success making this yogurt
My grandmother used the light in her oven/toaster oven to create a perfect temperature for yogurt.
The light bulb produced a constant warm temperature. Take the temperature of your oven, if gas with a pilot light, it might already be warm as well.
@@MDSkarin Thank you for the suggestion
I just found you!!! Thank you soooo much for your genuine pasión for helping us ❤ love your podcast your videos everything so is amazing. I love how plane and simple you explain. Thank you thank you!!! ☺️
Donna, thanks for your inspiration to keep me making cultured foods! I have 2 of your books & just recently made my first batches of L. Reuteri yogurt.I think it’s going to compliment my milk kefir smoothie. Blessings to everyone 🤗💕🇨🇦
You beauty Donna...searched everywhere for this info...watching
I’m excited to learn more 😊
Thank you for sharing your knowledge ❣️ Joy💕👍
I didn't know drinking kefir had anything to do with sleeping rock hard, thought it was old age creeping in, I'm for sure interested in your other products, thanks so much for all your helpful knowledge 😀
Sauerkraut helps me sleep better too.
I love even the opening music, so cool!
Sidenote: Candida and Aspergillus species can produce oxalate.
Even pot has a gripof it. Hemps higher.
@@rueporter2253 DAMN!
Double DAMN!
Thanks for the info tho 😢
I couldn’t find the yogurt plus culture on the website. Please do you have a link?
What about water kefir? I just started to drink it. Love it. Don’t care for milk kefir it is costly where I live.
Folks tend to ignore that without prebiotics, chicory mint, etc, yogurt cant work well.
Thank you for the great explanation but I can't tolerate kefir, it makes my stomach hurt badly. It does the same for my 14 years old son.
carnivore and my body lost all my fat and I put on lots of muscle and no more inflammation,
My Dr freaked out on my new blood work, liver panel, and everything at perfect level now.
How long to clear skin usually? Starting l. Reuteri today.
my friend has stage 4 renal failure. I need to make some smoothies to take to her. So many people can't stand the taste of real kefir. Sometimes my kefir gets really sour. It usually is because I don't have the time to strain the grains out and I stick it in the fridge. I do the second ferment in the fridge always. I want to try putting fruit in it when I am doing the second ferment. Can I use canned fruit? Like mandarin oranges?
You forgot to link the studies! Can you pin them? I want to share them with my doctor as I have oxalate kidney stones 😢😢😢😢😢😢
and DRINK WATER..😊
I can’t eat certain foods because of oxalates.. but I also suffer from several auto immune conditions.. I noticed people that don’t suffer from autoimmune don’t have as many problems with it…
I have high oxalates and I am dumping them & drinking Kefir! I love it!
Likely the other way around. People who have accumulated more oxalate are more likely to have “autoimmune disease” (often the body attacking a foreign substance, such as oxalate, as described by Sally Norton in her book Toxic Superfoods, not actually the body attacking itself) and these same people who already have a high oxalate load are naturally more sensitive to additional incoming oxalate. That doesn’t mean that people who have not yet developed “autoimmune disease” can go on eating oxalates with impunity. At what point are they going to reach “critical mass”? It seems like an unnecessary gamble. “The dose makes the poison.”
L glutamine seems to help, taking 1-3g 30-60 minutes before eating and before sleeping, most autoimmune issues start in the gut.
I have high uric acid and am supposed to be on a low purine diet. I have read that fermented food is full of high purines because of the yeast. Then I read fermented foods won’t hurt you. What is true?
I've had major hut issues lately. was tested and it's not h pylori. but candida is out of control. would you recommend taking s. boulardii?
Make l reuteri yogurt and bifidobacterium longum
@@whitevoodooman7276 hi! How do you make these homemade? Would love to know! Thank you!
@@AntonioLiberato08 there's.tons of video of it on here
I take a yogurt maker
I heat up 3 cans of coconut milk to 80c the let kool 5 mins maybe
Whisk inn 3 t spoons of inulin and then let kool down too 38c this is important
Then crush up some l reuteri tablets and also add a bifidobacterium powder . Add 4 to spoons of the kooled down coconut mix into it and stir well into it
Then add this to the main coconut mix . Put into yog maker and set to 38c for 36 hours and then ya done lol
U need to sterilize everything as much u can and make sure ya You maker has manual heat and time settings
If you look up William davis l reuteri yogurt he shows you it . The make of the l reuteri is called biogaia
@@AntonioLiberato08 you can use milk
I've found also to help gut issues is salt some of your water and salt your food 20 grams a day ... make sure you Hve a ton of veg and some lentils and potatoes for potassium to balance the sodium and plenty of water
This help to make stomuch acid were all very low on it ... low.stomuch acid leads to gut problems . Also add 1 t spoon of acv to your evening meal.and mix it in well
Also lol . Try tudca it's a bile salt and swedish bitters after a meal lol. Look up Maria treben swedish bitters
@@AntonioLiberato08 also I eat alot of raw unpasteurised sauerkraut!!
Bet your sorry you asked now haha
Loads fiber too
I suspect the scientists are confused about the order of causality. A healthy colon has butyrate producers that allow the small intestines to keep the tight junctions from letting in excess oxalate, and allow the colon to accept the oxalate from the blood to finally degrade it. Lots of bacteria break it down, but unhealthy intestines will absorb oxalate rather than feed the bacteria with it.
Is there any research to suggest that artificial B-6 will compete with active B-6 to cause a secondary B-6 deficiency and thus an oxalate sensitivity?
@anthonychaffeemd this is my only issue with carnivore. Fermented foods. I'd like to know your thoughts on this if you have time at some point. I know you're extremely busy. Maybe you could share with us in the Carnivore over 40 group.
My kefir keeps going to curds and whey. Does it still retain the same benefits?
Yes, but it is more likely to lose its bacteria counts faster because by that point there's less for them to eat and they begin starving. But that's actually the point where the vitamin content is maximized.
that probly means your kefir is fermenting too quickly, or there are too much grain per the amount of milk u use. try either halving the grain in the same amount of milk u use, or shorten the fermentation time( more commitment and more kefir tho) or ferment it in the fridge 1/2 the time, on counter top 1/2 the time. i strain mine at arnd noon, pour in new milk and stick it in the fridge and only bring it out to sit on the counter at night arnd 9pm and strain again next day arnd noon. i live in a hot tropical country. hope this helps
@@TheSpecialJ11 ok. Thank you. So the are not new health benefits from the curds and whey. But not the same benefits of the kefir. Thank you.
How much kefir do you recommend a day. 62 female no major issues
Is sour dough considered a fermented food? I do einkorn sourdough does it have the health benefits?
Yes
You are baking it right? Heat kills it all so NO its not the same as sauerkraut for example.
What is the difference between Kefir and yogurt? Do you take both, or one or the other? I am new to cultured foods and have many questions. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience!
Kefir is a mushroom an almost non dairy. It has way more good to it. Yogurt is mostly a scam. Very few store bought kinds are good or real.
I made mistake, I misread, kombucha is mushroom an is made from tea so it would have oxalate.
Kefir is a fermented dairy drink, similar to yogurt, but thinner so it's drinkable
If you make her Yogurt it is not a scam. It’s the real deal.
@rueporter2253 no mistake, Kefir is also a mushroom 😊
Do you recommend full fat or lowfat yogurt?
Cant we just buy kefir and sauerkraut at a health food store? I dont want to ferment my own vegetables or make my own kefir ot sourdough bread.
What is the best time of the day to take kefir
You body does most healing during the sleep, so probably best as a pudding if youre fermenting the kefir with a sweet fruit!
I say twice a day,once in morning empty gut, waithour to eat other stuff an atnightbefore bed anafyerfour hours no food.
Live near a soil that is living you have it all there...
Donna, I have been taking Prevacid for years. If I try to eliminate it, my stomach is on fire. I do try to take Kimchi each morning. I would like to do away with the Prevacid but I need some guidance. My Doctor says to keep taking the Prevacid.
кефир - kefir [ key fear ] Not [ key fur ]
I am a fiber free Carnivore adding kefir to my diet, just received the grains and starting the process. Homo Sapiens cannot digest fiber it sits rotting stinking in the intestines causing health issues. If you eat salad you have worms from the tiny eggs. There are many health issues caused by eating plants, thank you for sharing what you have learned.
You shouldn't eat raw fruit and raw vegetables at the same time.
Fermented? Beer, cheese and wine ok?
Non-pasteurized, natural wine. “Natural wine” is a specific term, like “organic”, denoting certain properties and processing methods. It’s very different from conventional wine. Give it a Google. And raw milk cheese is very probiotic.
I had read that Asian people have the highest gastric cancer statistics due to eating fermented foods.
That does not sound right. Why would smart people / a culture, do that over a long period of time ?
This sounds like bullshit
i think it's true for some asian countries, but from eating too spicy or when food is stil piping hot.. some also due to alcohol
Salted fish is associated with gastric cancers in Asia. I have not ever heard of fermented foods being associated with increased gastric cancers. Miso is salted fermented soy soup.
Yes, I’ve heard it’s due to high salt levels.
Kifer is ho in sugar 😅
All the animals have it- would it make sense to eat animal fecal material (sorry if this sounds gross but animals do it)?
Apples should be eaten by themselves not with other fruit.
Why is that?
@@NoTrashInHeaven I learned that in my nutrition classes in college.
@@chrislastnam6822but what is the reason?
@@jancotton2315 I often remember conclusions but not the details
It probably has to do with the digestive enzymes used for apples and those used for other fruit. You also shouldn't eat raw fruits in the same meal as you eat raw vegetables.
Geez that's the kind of crap they're teaching kids these days?
You try to fix our guts and kill the eyes with that annoying jar you have on the screen……… although is suggestive it really cut down the willingness to watch😩 I personally ferment food and recently started learning about oxalates but I can’t watch your video because of the eye pain