The more I hear about soul memory the more I feel like it's not a good mechanic, either way though good video man it helped me alot. Explains why i'm getting less and less pvp.
true, I mean as long as I'm not getting invaded by someone with infinite stamina, poise, and health I think I'm good to go. Unfortunately out of all 5 of my current DKS2 builds. I'm leaving 4 of them at their current levels (110-150) in the hopes they tweak soul memory. I'm taking the last one up to 170 right now. Mainly because I'm constantly getting invaded by people WAY over my level. Just yesterday I was constantly sending post fight messages asking SL and I didn't get a single message back that said they had an SL LOWER than 186. Highest I got was lvl 240 when I was 150. I mean a 90 level difference to me, and constantly getting summoned or invaded by them, is a bigger problem than twinking was. I don't necessarily mind the challenge, but in DKS2 there are a few more stats and spells seems a lot better this time around so a 90 level difference is hard to fight against especially since I'm not the best and all.
Ahhhh very true, looking at it in that way it is certainly flawed. I guess they wanted to balance it by souls because you figure, a person who obtained a million souls has to be as good as the next millions souls holder right? they need alot of work
yeah it makes sense, it's cool their trying to do something ...I guess. I mean I don't understand what was wrong with the original way dks pvp was set up. but at 7m sm, where i'm at, god I get so many higher lvls lol.
This video is outdated, in SOTFS works diferently and better. You will always be able to play online no matter your SM because now the SM range is WAY larger.
My friend and I were playing with no issue. We got to the part of the game where you get the Ashen Heart and have to go to the Giant's memories for souls to make the King weak. We now can't see eachother's signs. Same soul count, both human. This game has issues..
Bro i killed last giant with my friend & he helped me and then he couldnt ever see my summon signs... But i can see his's... I wanted to help him in the game since hes new but :(
Soul Memory Souls that once dwelled within the flesh will always remain in memory. Could this be a blessing? Or a curse? Neither. It's fucking bullshit.
Yea, it could been have Implemented a lot better in this game. Over all really like this game but yea little things like this will does bug the dark souls community.
They should have allowed password joining. Dont count souls u lost and dont count sm u use to buy things but do check the weapon upgrades like ds3. After lvl 100 give us an option to stop our sm whenever we want. We still get souls to use but can't lvl until we uncheck it.
This game is pissing me off. My friend is well within range of a summon and I can't summon him whether or not I use the name engraved ring, or even sunbro. I'm level 254, he is level 250. My soul memory is 15 mil and change. His is 14 mil and change. Soul memory is so broken.
This isn't because of soul memory. I have three TVs in my living room, all running dark souls, it is all dark souls all day every day here and we have made much bigger differences in SM work. I think in general people just do not understand how matchmaking in this game works. Nothing is guaranteed. Sometimes even characters who can connect, just don't. The sign doesn't show up. It was the same in the last game. Nothing is guaranteed. Don't assume that just because you can't summon him today, you won't be able to summon him tomorrow even if neither of you changes anything.
It can be one of 3 things. I would need more info to help more. 1.Your not human (you need to be to summon other players) 2. You beat the boss in the area already. 3. t could also be a network thing, some times the game does that and you need restart your system. For info on the type tips I can give check this out ua-cam.com/video/ZIe6GUUyCWg/v-deo.html
205k soul memory with name engraved ring god as Galib, god of disease. Put your soapstone down at shaded ruins bonfire if you want to help. Xbox One GT: Fiszy x Zesty
Hey thanks a ton bro. I will like. I was getting frustrated. Then watched this. My guy is 28 mill sou memories lol still haven't beat the game. Was wondering why I couldn't be summon by my friends
Yea George Jung summon memories try makes it a tricky if you only want to play pve co op with friends. I glad I was able to help you out if you got time just take a min check out my patreon page www.patreon.com/TheUntitledGameShow
i dont even want to play with buddies. i just want help at the dukes dear freja and cant find summon signs... please help i have about 12 mio. souls memory and i didnt do the gutter yet.
Great vid on explaining.......but I already knew this, and me and my friend still can't summon each other and we are only 21,532 soul memory apart.......this happen to us just last night at about 11:34 pm on 4/17/14
Is it still happening now or is it still not working, also what level and convents are you guys in. Make sure not to join the Company of Champions Covenant as it disables cooperative play.
Stephen John Welcome to dark souls, it's not because of soul memory, it's not because you're doing something wrong, it's just the game being the game. Just put your sign down, wear the ring, and just wait. If it doesn't work, wait some more. If that doesn't work, you have two choices, you can accept that it might not work at that moment in time or you can wait some more. I've had to wait six minutes for a friend's sign (he was playing on the television next to mine) to show up but it DID eventually show up.
I have played dark.souls 2 with 4 different characters each unti ng+ the amount of summoning i found to help me was 10 total in all 4 characters in fact with warrior i found zero dunno whats wrong :'(
thanx for the explanation, it is very helpful. but this mechanic is not good at all, what if i helped allot of players to finish their bosses, now what? how am i supposed to summon anyone as i reached over 500000 and still on the first stages!
This SM is absolute bullshit, it completely ruins pvp.. i want to stay at 150 but constantly vs ppl way higher, its unfair...Complete bullshit! Thanks for the video non the less!
I understand your frustration but really the static PvP SL theory is completely crafted by the community. If you want to challenge yourself then sure stay at 150 but then don't complain that you're up against people higher level than you because the game assumes that you've done something with the souls you've gained from 500 PvP fights (as an example) to somehow better your character. It's not a very unrealistic idea really when you think about it in a basic way but I appreciate that it doesn't accommodate well to how people are used to PvPing in the last game. Just to note I'm not having a go at you specifically this is just was just a general statement.
DrThunders yeah i get what you mean, but i think, if you decide to stay at a lower level, then you should vs people around that level. As no matter how many souls, if you're not using them to level, its still kinda fair, minus the gear upgrades which anyone any level can get. And i think people who chose to level up to lets say 400+(easy mode) should most defiantly NOT go against people like me at SL 150, thats just plain stupid. But i understand what you meant and respect that, although i still believe the idea of SM has ruined it for us hardcore pvp players.
EvianoHD Yeah I feel that the system caters better to players who both PvE and PvP. I can imagine it's terrible for people like yourself who will likely have characters whose only purpose is to PvP. I also think that the system in place would make more sense if mundane didn't exist (why did it need to exist anyway? It encourages a culture of not paying any attention to what stats you're building) since without mundane the motivation to level up to ridiculous levels just wouldn't be there.
DrThunders yeah agreed, it is a big pain as i have 3 level 150's JUST for pvp .. on route to making another but stopping it at 125 and seeing how that feels. But yeah i completely agree with you, maybe they will come to some sense and fix up a bit. lol.
EvianoHD DrThunders You Both have good points. I still think overall for both hardcore PVP players and hardcore co op players (like my self) SM is a big let down. From what other wise is a great overall game.
I and my friend have almost the same sould memory it´s like 100 dif so i´m 11k and he is 10,9k and we waited now almost 1 hour and couldn´t see the sighn
wtf is this shit with soul memory I just want to play with my friend :\ he just started the game and I am lvl 180 any tip plz can I be summoned by him?
Right from bandainamco unless they lying, (just saying) support.bandainamcogames.com/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Article/View/420/0/dark-souls-ii---im-having-trouble-with-summoningsinvasions "Total amount of souls collected and levels - A character's total number of souls is factored in during summonings/invasions (generally you must be within 50,000 souls of the person you're invading/co-opping with and your level must be within +/- 10 levels)."
I have the answer to Soul Memory, I call it ~Memory Level~ . A hybrid of soul memory and soul level. The way it would work is just how the soul level mechanic worked in Dark Souls 1, but with soul memory as the second factor for the type of ranked tier of players you could connect with. So what I'm saying is if I have a soul level character twink at 10 I would only find people in my level range and also only be paired up with people within the same soul memory tier as me. This would keep me away from the soul level 10 noobies barely starting the game with hardly any souls. We all know no one gets matched with the proper opponents using the current soul memory mechanic. The only people enjoying the current soul memory, are high level players easily beating low level players. Keeping the noobies from the vets is what Bandai or From Soft is trying to accomplish. I believe that this is the perfect solution for that.
I think you buy it from a sorcerer in a cell in the lost bastille, right before you go to the sinner's rise in the area where those 'sleeping' exploding guys are. You need a fragrant branch of yore to unlock him too.
WANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO BATTLE THEUNITLEDGAMESHOW? Join the official Biki and Jem wifi tournament! Sign up here!- challonge.com/JemandBiki more info- pastebin.com/0903jztA *huge update*
I should be at JEM stream friday, to talk about the wifi tournament with every one and JEM. He just told me that you guys was working out most the details, so nice going.
Untitledgameshow ok cool! hopeful jem's steam will attract more participants for the tournament. Registration is going to end along with jem's stream tomorrow.
Yea. Here is the link to the new video ua-cam.com/video/PST8xX4EJOk/v-deo.html you can post the info there as well. Oh btw the funny thing is was facing Kasanelover. She is one of I have fight in the 1st round of the tournament. I do know there no ubers then tho.
Untitledgameshow Yeah, no ubers. For right now, i have complete control over the customization of the tournament, meaning, i can arrange everybody in the order i want ;).Your matchup with kasane is not official yet. Everything will be set in stone after jem's stream tomorrow.
To hell or whatever else is out there for the developers of this game nothing good will come out of what they've done. Thank God bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 give it the middle finger then shoved in a pit of lava work long as we can slowly boil away and die. Hopefully the Remake will fix everything.
Hey Biki can we rematch tomorrow? You did Have Legends in your Team!?!?!? xD How would I ever be able to beat you? Lol xD I wanna use my legends tomorrow and then im gonna do my best! :D
The more I hear about soul memory the more I feel like it's not a good mechanic, either way though good video man it helped me alot. Explains why i'm getting less and less pvp.
Im not sure but i think its to stop low level invading, good and bad at the same time because low level invading was fun
true, I mean as long as I'm not getting invaded by someone with infinite stamina, poise, and health I think I'm good to go. Unfortunately out of all 5 of my current DKS2 builds. I'm leaving 4 of them at their current levels (110-150) in the hopes they tweak soul memory. I'm taking the last one up to 170 right now. Mainly because I'm constantly getting invaded by people WAY over my level. Just yesterday I was constantly sending post fight messages asking SL and I didn't get a single message back that said they had an SL LOWER than 186. Highest I got was lvl 240 when I was 150. I mean a 90 level difference to me, and constantly getting summoned or invaded by them, is a bigger problem than twinking was. I don't necessarily mind the challenge, but in DKS2 there are a few more stats and spells seems a lot better this time around so a 90 level difference is hard to fight against especially since I'm not the best and all.
Ahhhh very true, looking at it in that way it is certainly flawed. I guess they wanted to balance it by souls because you figure, a person who obtained a million souls has to be as good as the next millions souls holder right? they need alot of work
yeah it makes sense, it's cool their trying to do something ...I guess. I mean I don't understand what was wrong with the original way dks pvp was set up. but at 7m sm, where i'm at, god I get so many higher lvls lol.
Bruh this mechanic is awful doesn’t do a thing it only made coop worst lol
Terrible idea. who tf came up with this bs
The question is not How it works the question is. WHY???
6 years later I still refer to this video while playing
Tried it 50 fucking times, exact everything and it still doesn't work. FUCK THIS GAME
This video is outdated, in SOTFS works diferently and better. You will always be able to play online no matter your SM because now the SM range is WAY larger.
+thisPineapple Pyna Yes your right :)
Do you need an amount of soul memory to open the gate at the winter shrine? Or have they removed that?
You need 1 million souls or the 4 greatsouls
Even on NG++?
i think that on nng+ is 2m, and ng++ is 3m
Such a pain, No wonder.. Thanks for the explanation. good thing that soul memory in DS 3 is dead.!!
My friend and I were playing with no issue. We got to the part of the game where you get the Ashen Heart and have to go to the Giant's memories for souls to make the King weak. We now can't see eachother's signs. Same soul count, both human. This game has issues..
Yeah same just happened here at the same spot and I’m not sure how to fix it still
@@IKilledNikaly you cant do co-op in memories
@@crescenciosanchez6938 I figured out what it was and we weren’t in memories we just both needed to activate the ancient dragon boss fight first
Bro i killed last giant with my friend & he helped me and then he couldnt ever see my summon signs... But i can see his's... I wanted to help him in the game since hes new but :(
Soul Memory
Souls that once dwelled
within the flesh will always
remain in memory.
Could this be a blessing? Or a curse?
Neither. It's fucking bullshit.
A bs curse for sure
When you need algebra degree just to play with your friends
I don't like soul memory, for PvE atleast. I just wanna sun bro and fromsoft is interfering.
Yea, it could been have Implemented a lot better in this game. Over all really like this game but yea little things like this will does bug the dark souls community.
They should have allowed password joining. Dont count souls u lost and dont count sm u use to buy things but do check the weapon upgrades like ds3.
After lvl 100 give us an option to stop our sm whenever we want. We still get souls to use but can't lvl until we uncheck it.
Never mix Videogames with math From Soft. Never.
This game is pissing me off. My friend is well within range of a summon and I can't summon him whether or not I use the name engraved ring, or even sunbro. I'm level 254, he is level 250. My soul memory is 15 mil and change. His is 14 mil and change. Soul memory is so broken.
Yea it is, even only being a mil part it will still be to far.
This isn't because of soul memory. I have three TVs in my living room, all running dark souls, it is all dark souls all day every day here and we have made much bigger differences in SM work. I think in general people just do not understand how matchmaking in this game works. Nothing is guaranteed. Sometimes even characters who can connect, just don't. The sign doesn't show up. It was the same in the last game. Nothing is guaranteed. Don't assume that just because you can't summon him today, you won't be able to summon him tomorrow even if neither of you changes anything.
There AR sm ranks dude like the fact 15m can connect to 45m
It just suddenly stopped working one day. So frustrating. Soul memory shouldn't mean anything after ng+. Only soul level.
Have you tried since? I regularly co-op with people waaaay above and below me in SM, and I am talking in NG+.
Bizud
I do think something change as I getting my friends to join me now even tho our SM is way off from each other.
Is that the reason im not seeing summon signs anymore ? If I place my sign I'm summoned but I can't see white/red sign...
It can be one of 3 things. I would need more info to help more.
1.Your not human (you need to be to summon other players)
2. You beat the boss in the area already.
3. t could also be a network thing, some times the game does that and you need restart your system.
For info on the type tips I can give check this out ua-cam.com/video/ZIe6GUUyCWg/v-deo.html
i´m human
no convenat
lv.100
SM 817149
didnt burned effigy
hmmm crazy that should be good.
Hey, I realise it's a two years old post, but I'm having the same problem. What did you find out about that issue?
205k soul memory with name engraved ring god as Galib, god of disease. Put your soapstone down at shaded ruins bonfire if you want to help. Xbox One GT: Fiszy x Zesty
💀did it work
Absolutely amazing script.
Let's have a ring that triggers a different matching system based on stats (damage output resistances etc.) Ring of Kindrets?
Soap not sap lol lemme put down my pancake sign but forreal thank u
I just wish i could be summoned now a days
thanksfor the explenation
btw i do understand why they need soul memory but it kinda sucks sometimes
Hey thanks a ton bro. I will like. I was getting frustrated. Then watched this. My guy is 28 mill sou memories lol still haven't beat the game. Was wondering why I couldn't be summon by my friends
Yea George Jung summon memories try makes it a tricky if you only want to play pve co op with friends. I glad I was able to help you out if you got time just take a min check out my patreon page www.patreon.com/TheUntitledGameShow
What a stupid system.
I know I'm a few years late to the party and his may not matter anymore. But how does soul memory affect invading
me and my friend have the same soul memory and are between 10 levels and we use the ring and we still can't play with each other help?
Wow explains why I don't get dark phantoms and don't get summoned
god I hate math
Yeah don't blame you
It's not like we bought the game to do Math. We just wanted easily play with some buddies.
i dont even want to play with buddies. i just want help at the dukes dear freja and cant find summon signs... please help i have about 12 mio. souls memory and i didnt do the gutter yet.
nevermind i found the prob. i have to muc souls im level 105
Troller Inc. oder auch deine mutter Thar's a NPC in the back
xXTurtlesXx115 he is useless
Great vid on explaining.......but I already knew this, and me and my friend still can't summon each other and we are only 21,532 soul memory apart.......this happen to us just last night at about 11:34 pm on 4/17/14
Is it still happening now or is it still not working, also what level and convents are you guys in. Make sure not to join the Company of Champions Covenant as it disables cooperative play.
bro same thing happened to me too, it worked fine yesterday now for some reason today nothing works
Stephen John Welcome to dark souls, it's not because of soul memory, it's not because you're doing something wrong, it's just the game being the game. Just put your sign down, wear the ring, and just wait. If it doesn't work, wait some more. If that doesn't work, you have two choices, you can accept that it might not work at that moment in time or you can wait some more.
I've had to wait six minutes for a friend's sign (he was playing on the television next to mine) to show up but it DID eventually show up.
Just buy the name engraved ring for 3000 souls from the cat
Can I hop on cheat engine offline and change it? Or will I get put in the cheaters server? Just wanna play with a friend.
soul memory is shit, everyone praise the sun
I have played dark.souls 2 with 4 different characters each unti ng+ the amount of summoning i found to help me was 10 total in all 4 characters in fact with warrior i found zero dunno whats wrong :'(
thanx for the explanation, it is very helpful. but this mechanic is not good at all, what if i helped allot of players to finish their bosses, now what? how am i supposed to summon anyone as i reached over 500000 and still on the first stages!
Hey np at all man.
Do you have to be human to summon people to help you?
Yes.
This SM is absolute bullshit, it completely ruins pvp.. i want to stay at 150 but constantly vs ppl way higher, its unfair...Complete bullshit! Thanks for the video non the less!
I understand your frustration but really the static PvP SL theory is completely crafted by the community. If you want to challenge yourself then sure stay at 150 but then don't complain that you're up against people higher level than you because the game assumes that you've done something with the souls you've gained from 500 PvP fights (as an example) to somehow better your character. It's not a very unrealistic idea really when you think about it in a basic way but I appreciate that it doesn't accommodate well to how people are used to PvPing in the last game.
Just to note I'm not having a go at you specifically this is just was just a general statement.
DrThunders yeah i get what you mean, but i think, if you decide to stay at a lower level, then you should vs people around that level. As no matter how many souls, if you're not using them to level, its still kinda fair, minus the gear upgrades which anyone any level can get. And i think people who chose to level up to lets say 400+(easy mode) should most defiantly NOT go against people like me at SL 150, thats just plain stupid. But i understand what you meant and respect that, although i still believe the idea of SM has ruined it for us hardcore pvp players.
EvianoHD Yeah I feel that the system caters better to players who both PvE and PvP. I can imagine it's terrible for people like yourself who will likely have characters whose only purpose is to PvP. I also think that the system in place would make more sense if mundane didn't exist (why did it need to exist anyway? It encourages a culture of not paying any attention to what stats you're building) since without mundane the motivation to level up to ridiculous levels just wouldn't be there.
DrThunders yeah agreed, it is a big pain as i have 3 level 150's JUST for pvp .. on route to making another but stopping it at 125 and seeing how that feels. But yeah i completely agree with you, maybe they will come to some sense and fix up a bit. lol.
EvianoHD DrThunders You Both have good points. I still think overall for both hardcore PVP players and hardcore co op players (like my self) SM is a big let down. From what other wise is a great overall game.
what if my soul memory is 709776 and my friend is 790773
I and my friend have almost the same sould memory it´s like 100 dif so i´m 11k and he is 10,9k and we waited now almost 1 hour and couldn´t see the sighn
Pyropye try using the engraved ring
im in level 300 and soul level is 9000000, i wont be able to see any summon signs.
me too i cant play coop anymore so sad thank god soul memory is fking gone in dark souls 3
wtf is this shit with soul memory I just want to play with my friend :\ he just started the game and I am lvl 180 any tip plz can I be summoned by him?
just to let u know untitled there has been no evidence that soul level plays any part in summoning
Right from bandainamco unless they lying, (just saying) support.bandainamcogames.com/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Article/View/420/0/dark-souls-ii---im-having-trouble-with-summoningsinvasions
"Total amount of souls collected and levels - A character's total number of souls is factored in during summonings/invasions (generally you must be within 50,000 souls of the person you're invading/co-opping with and your level must be within +/- 10 levels)."
So you're saying, I can be level 98, and my friend is level 44, when can still summon one another, as long as our soul memory is about the same? Cool!
Thanks man great info
I have the answer to Soul Memory, I call it ~Memory Level~ . A hybrid of soul memory and soul level. The way it would work is just how the soul level mechanic worked in Dark Souls 1, but with soul memory as the second factor for the type of ranked tier of players you could connect with.
So what I'm saying is if I have a soul level character twink at 10 I would only find people in my level range and also only be paired up with people within the same soul memory tier as me. This would keep me away from the soul level 10 noobies barely starting the game with hardly any souls. We all know no one gets matched with the proper opponents using the current soul memory mechanic. The only people enjoying the current soul memory, are high level players easily beating low level players.
Keeping the noobies from the vets is what Bandai or From Soft is trying to accomplish. I believe that this is the perfect solution for that.
What about NG and NG+?
soul memory is alwase active
@@skycrafter2042 kind of a late response considering I've moved on from DS2 so long ago but alright
there is a ring that can apuse your soul memory
*pause
What's it called???
Agape's Ring
thisPineapple how do I get this
I think you buy it from a sorcerer in a cell in the lost bastille, right before you go to the sinner's rise in the area where those 'sleeping' exploding guys are. You need a fragrant branch of yore to unlock him too.
Come on i have a 9 mill. Soul memory and i summoned a friend with less then 3 mill. So this sound like crap
Its diferent in SOTFS, this video is outdated, with 9mil you can summon people with a bit less than 3mil and 45 mil max.
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I should be at JEM stream friday, to talk about the wifi tournament with every one and JEM. He just told me that you guys was working out most the details, so nice going.
Untitledgameshow ok cool! hopeful jem's steam will attract more participants for the tournament. Registration is going to end along with jem's stream tomorrow.
Yea. Here is the link to the new video ua-cam.com/video/PST8xX4EJOk/v-deo.html you can post the info there as well. Oh btw the funny thing is was facing Kasanelover. She is one of I have fight in the 1st round of the tournament. I do know there no ubers then tho.
Untitledgameshow Yeah, no ubers. For right now, i have complete control over the customization of the tournament, meaning, i can arrange everybody in the order i want ;).Your matchup with kasane is not official yet. Everything will be set in stone after jem's stream tomorrow.
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To hell or whatever else is out there for the developers of this game nothing good will come out of what they've done. Thank God bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 give it the middle finger then shoved in a pit of lava work long as we can slowly boil away and die. Hopefully the Remake will fix everything.
Definitely a curse
Hey Biki can we rematch tomorrow? You did Have Legends in your Team!?!?!? xD How would I ever be able to beat you? Lol xD I wanna use my legends tomorrow and then im gonna do my best! :D
alright sure
Thanks! :D
Luscious Lobsters :]
Going uploading a uber pokemon match soon!
Untitledgameshow oh cool, another video to advertise my amazing tournament :p
Pacific reason?
Specific Rim
What about sun bro covenant
hello
worst matchmaking i’ve ever seem this is a problem in every souls game shit is awful
M
What a boring system, it makes sense but yea... boring.