The BEST Warlock Multi-Class Tier list | Dungeons and Dragons 5e
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
- The Warlock, everyone's classic favourite sleepy casters. But don't let the short rests fool you, the Warlock is a powerful class with many excellent options when it comes to multiclassing. Here Offbeat Outlaw will break down how the class behaves in context of multiclassing.
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0:00 Intro
1:26 Warlock
2:22 Artificer
4:37 Barbarian
6:00 Bard
7:39 Cleric
9:17 Druid
10:42 Fighter
11:44 Monk
13:31 Paladin
14:55 Ranger
15:42 Rogue
17:16 Sorcerer
18:59 Wizard - Комедії
As a player about to start playing an abjuration wizard, I take offense to the claim that bards are the best counterspellers, as by level 10, abjurers add their full proficiency bonus to counterspells and dispel magic
Woops I completely forgot about that feature. Thanks for pointing it out!
@@OffbeatOutlaw also circle of stars druids with their dragon starry forms
Are you going to start with Hex Blade? I know 13 Cha is quite an investment, but Armor of Agathyst with Arcane Ward can be lots of fun.
@@kwaksea I am indeed! I also started with a level in fighter for heavy armor to get even more cheese with Heavy Armor Master
Lore bard can be a bit better 14+ from glibness and peerless skill, but it costs resources to maintain.
Other good things about Sorlock: having those level-1 spell slots means you can still use things like Shield at high levels, and the Quickened Spell + Cantrip combo works great with Eldritch Blast.
I actually played a campaign as a Horizon Walker (Melee) Ranger / Hexblade Warlock. It’s actually extremely effective. Your bonus actions don’t overlap that much, and it was one of the party’s heaviest damage dealers next to our fighter. Using Tasha’s ranger rules having Favored Foe so you don’t have to waste a BA or spell slot on Hex/Hunters mark is nice, and you get expertise. Overall the two classes actually worked really well together.
I played a horizon walker (ranged) Ranger/ Archfey Warlock and insane mobility I had with teleporting everywhere was crazy good. Even though the final build concept didn’t finish until 17th level. 😞 But I was also an Eladrin elf.
Warlock is a fantastic multiclass for any primary Cha casters... especially the hexblade (sigh). I really wish the main features of hexblade were tied to pact of the blade instead of the subclass.
That would break all other subclasses and make hexblade useless
@@Makareno94 That's the thing, hexblade is so particular with its "hitting with charisma" it would make sense to have it as a pact instead of a patron. If you take hexblade, you *are* gonna take pact of the blade and if you want to take pact of the blade while not having taken hexblade, you'll lament not having the charisma-hitting feature. So no, that wouldn't really break the other subclasses because it would just allow you to diversify the playstyles available more.
And then, that would make multiclassing into Warlock much *much* more diversified than "and then I dip into 1 level of hexblade because I want to hit with my charisma" and not really paying it a lot of thinking
@@siragon756 then everyone would pick pact of the blade cause other choises suck compared to it
@@Makareno94 No ? Pact of the blade would just be "you have a weapon and it allows you to hit with charisma", it just allows you to have a meelee build with the patron you want. Not everyone wants a meelee build with their warlock, you can still go ritual caster with the tomelock or have the flexibility of the familiar.
Artificer has a subclass that allows you to hit with intelligence and it works just fine, I don't see how it would suddenly become problematic with the warlock.
@@Makareno94 you don't look at book or chain do you?
If your optimized damage character can't do more than Hex + Eldritch Blast + Agonizing Blast (accounting for chance to hit), it is doing a bad job. In fact it should be able to do 50-100% more if it is well done.
That's why it's what is considered the baseline. That's the floor of what you should be doing and any optimized build should do better
I feel as though sorlock is a far more satisfying multiclass than people give it credit for, far beyond coffeelock. Mega magic combined with Eldritch invocations can make you one of the most unique casters in the game. A blend of your subclasses can be exceptionally interesting.
Small detail: Eldritch Mind Invocation stacks with Con saves prof. So if you started as Sorc you now can enable boosted concentration checks.
If you want a high initiative, a little bit of Swashbuckler Rogue could be funny since Rakish Audacity takes your charisma mod.
It probably pairs well with giving Hexblade a little extra too because of that.
But it does kind of trade off some "control caster" for "melee skirmisher"
Also Sorlock is just fun even without going full coffeelock
Yeah, I'm playing a Swashbuckler 7/Hexblade 2 at the moment, and it's really good as a skirmisher. I do crazy damage between Sneak Attack, Booming Blade, Hex and Hexblade's Curse and I got to focus on Charisma as the party's Face since the array we're using doesn't allow multiple high stats if you're not getting +2 for every ASI
Yeah this multiclass is the best one for getting the secondary damage of booming blade to trigger as you can catch creatures on their own him them with booming blade and move away without that OA
There's a specialized use case for Barb/Warlock if you wanted to make something of a thorns build. Making Armor of Agathys last longer by using rage can be very effective and if you play a Fathomless warlock you can stretch AoA out even farther by using your reaction to reduce damage using your tentacle.
Imagine this: fighter 3, warlock 4, sorcerer 4. You action surge and spend 2 sorcery points to use quickened spell to cast eldritch blast 3 times and create what I like to call the Death Star.
You now have 9 beams of eldritch energy hurling at your opponent/s on turn 1!
It may not be optimized and just a dumb move but dam it sounds like fun.
Fathomless Warlock so now eldritch blast are tentacles that slap people. Lmao like some crazy Japanese anime.
Better idea fighter 4 warlock 8 and ask your dm for illusionist bracers do exactly what you are attempting without using recourses ant take meta magic adept with the feat you get with that extra level in fighter and you will get higher level warlock spells.
Fighter/Warlock is one of my favorite builds because of how it basically gets its entire kit back on a short rest
As a Warlock enjoyer, always love putting at least 2 levels into Sorcerer as well as taking Metamagic Adept. That way I have a couple of 1st level spells to burn on, say, Armor of Agathys or Hex. And if I need big damage I can use font of magic to burn a slot if I need more sorcery points and quicken spell my eldritch blast, allowing a 17th level character to deal more damage on average than a disintegrate spell. It's really cool.
Genie Lock + Barbarian is an EXCELLENT multiclass. Flying Barbarian by level 9 (I used Ancestral Guardian 3 + Genie Lock 6) and can use spellslots for Smites. Thematic, strong, fun, unique.
Lmao flying barbarians.
This is a big help in my decision making for my character sheets, thank you! Please keep up with the tier videos
I think oath of conquest and pact of undead work pretty well together since they both work around fear effects
I’m actually rocking a Dao Genie Warlock/Wild Magic Sorc in one of my current campaigns. The synergy there is just delicious. Chef’s kiss. 10/10 would recommend.
A note on Counterspell that you mentioned in Bard. Sorcerers have Magical Guidance (from Tasha's) that lets them reroll a failed ability check for just 1 sorcery point.
I run a Celestial Warlock/Light Cleric multiclass. He's designed to be a control/support character (thanks to the Light cleric class features and channel divinity), and the domain spells let him pull damage out of his ass if he's backed into a corner.
That being said, there's a LOT of overlap between Celestial warlock and cleric in general, but ESPECIALLY Light cleric, cuz you're getting bonus radiant damage, resistance to radiant damage, and the Light cantrip from both subclasses lmao
If Fighter is the potatoes of D&D then who is the Meat?
Warlock is chicken, wizard is steak
@@OffbeatOutlaw Does that mean Sorcerer is pork?
@@OffbeatOutlaw and druid is the salad
Barbarian is a well done steak, sinewy and tough and not ordered very often ;)
I think the big appeal with cleric is adding armor to a non-hexblade warlock. And I'm sure that can be optimal with the right build, but since you aren't getting the defensive spells from cleric to compliment the AC, generally you just wanna go sorc with the moderately armored feat. As far as wizard, druid and ranger go, there definitely are builds where the classes get good synergy. Notably, wildfire druid and repelling blast turn you into a very effective way of controlling who stands where on the battlefield, undead warlock and fey wanderer ranger let you be an effective fear spreader, and hexvoker makes things go boom
cleric = spirit guardians + spiritual weapon
warlock = eldritch blast + invocations
very powerful combo. you can push people in and out of your spirit guardians so unless they have a ranged attack / really fast movement speed they're basically dead.
even if they do have ranged attacks / really fast movement you have teammates
@@pez1870 true, you could totally do something with grasp of Hadar instead of repelling blast like most builds, since SG does a lot of average damage even with a low save DC. At that point I'd skip Spiritual weapon, since it keys off your wisdom and takes a spell slot and prep, which you won't have many of the latter as a wisdom 14 cleric, and go for something like telekinetic for my bonus action to drag even more people into SG to do even more damage
@@ovbrook3057 oh I didn't think of telekinetic. also I maxed out both Cha and Wis cuz I got lucky with my stats. I might consider taking it alltho I did take Metamagic adept for quicken spell so I can still do eldritch blast ony first turn
@@pez1870 Also instead of Cleric(unless you absolutely need the Channel Divinity) you can go with Celestial Pact/Divine Soul SorLock. Gives you the Cleric spells but using Cha rather than Wis + Meta Magic.
@@user-xe4xw1ws1n yeah ik but for that specific build I also needed the cleric abilities. also it's funny you say that cuz I'm just making a devine soul sorcerer build rn.
Personally I think you can have some great mileage from dipping barb into warlock, specifically Bladelocks. Bladelocks can really benefit from resistance seeing their D8 hit die, and there are a areas where Warlocks fit nicely with Barbs (though admittedly small), with stuff like Eldritch Smite, Armor of Agathys and Mirror Image, as well as several instantaneous spells.
You'll still be mostly a Warlock anyway, so you can switch between raging and concentrating on spells.
Yeah, 1 level Barb dip for warlocks is actually really good, even if you're not Bladelock, so it should definitely be higher than D & moreover bottom B top of C. Fighter will always be the better option for a martial dip, but I've used the 1 dip Barb with Fiendlock to great success.
I totally love my warlock artificer. The mix my dm has allowed me to do makes combat absolutely fun
Point of Order to boost fighter/warlock even more. Warlock Spell slots, action surge, and second wind all recover on short rest. It's the "I just need a nap and I'm good" class combo.
My cleric warlock was allowed to use int as the warlocks casting mod and I made them sort of a keeper of forbidden knowledge. Mechanically they were a goolock/knowledge cleric with a focus on psychic damage, debuff spells, and knowledge spells
I always use PeteNutButter's optimisation guide for this kinda thing if you're interested, it's possibly a little out of date now though so an update is nice to have :)
Also I believe the baseline damage being a warlock is due to Treantmonk (could be wrong though, in which case forgive me), just wanted to make sure things are cited properly
Honestly it’s probably Treantmonk tho I myself am unsure of the origin
I can't speak to the origin, but it is definitely an unchanging ruler with which to measure. every warlock ever will have agonizing blast and eldrich blast, while other classes might have spells, cantrips, ranged weapons, one handed weapons, two handers, or any combination thereof. Warlocks remain untouched by time and supplemental material.
I mean I understand why you didn't give a shout-out, I'm also not 100% sure of the origin. I believe specifically Treantmonk's baseline involves the warlock using the hex spell, not sure if others use the same assumption
I don’t know if TMonk created it, but I felt that he made it much more well-known and explained it than it was previously.
Warlock as optimization baseline came from a tg post turned GTPforum post after DMG came out due to a massive argument about spell slot to dpr worth.
It actually uses the full "resourceless", "with single feature/spell slot use", "with full short rest usage in 1", "fsr but no rest between 2 fights" and "full DMG adventuring day" breakdowns with a factor of 0.9 for range advantage if over 60 ft distance can be maintained for at least 1 round without disadvantage.
Its to a degree why some people spam the idea that hex is a bad spell/trap (or because they fucked up their math), as having to upcast it on a pure warlock ends up not worth it for 2nd, 3rd and 4th slot levels AND can be worse on easy, medium and solo hard fights and at 5th level/with the long duration if you have another BA buff option and the DM doesnt allow a bag of rats/"store as long as you conc on it and the duration lasts" reapplication.
Meanwhile Treantmonk i believe started using lock concentrating on hex as a baseline around release of Tome of Foes.
Bro, you are underselling the hell out of the sheer synergy between the warlock class and the sorc's metamagic features. Even ignoring coffeelock, a warlock taking just metamagic adept is gonna have only two sorcery points until their next long rest. A warlock taking a 3 level dip has 3 sorcery points and the ability to top them off whenever by burning a pact magic slot (which you'll just get back on a short rest). That simple interaction makes more costly metamagic options such as quickened spell or twined spell a lot more enticing for the build.
My current favorite build I’ve made is a Druid warlock combo. From a summoning standpoint having wildfire spirit and pact of the chain and then one of the summon spells it’s really fun
Okay hear me out. I made a monk warlock. Admittedly it’s more monk than warlock, but it still uses both classes to a fair degree.
It’s Shadow Monk 8/Hexblade Warlock 2. Not only is it flavourful with both subclasses being darkness themed, there’s also a pretty cool synergy with the free monk spells and Devil’s Sight, Eldritch Mind
I built (but have not used) a Monk and Draconic Sorcerer multiclass character. The idea was that he went and joined the monastery seeking help in controlling his power. Because he was going to be a PC, he took to this combination rather well, distinguishing himself in the eyes of his teachers. But there was another student who, until the sorcerer’s arrival, had been the favored student at the monastery. This student grew resentful at the praise given to the sorcerer and at his own inability to progress beyond his current abilities. This led to the student making a warlock’s pact, mimicking the abilities of the sorcerer. This was intended to be the origin story for a antagonistic rival for the PC sorcerer.
Plus, I’d be fine with altering the Pact of the Blade to augment a Monk’s Unarmed Strikes somehow. But that is, admittedly, homebrew.
@@gregslingland3576 that sounds awesome! I’d love to have players like you in my games lol
@@maxfawcett143 Thank you. I’m flattered.
The tier list I was waiting for
Hey offbeat I was looking for ways to make monk overall better and found homebrew where you add the wisdom mod to ki point total what do you think
You've inspired me to run my own god campaign, but I'm having some trouble with the class builds for the different god's aspects. I'm in your discord but I'm not sure where to post the divine abilities to get help with matching the abilities and aspects thematically and mechanically to the build. Any info would be awesome!
I'd like to argue the barbarian multiclass. It would provide a significant boost to survivability especially if you cast aoa before rage making you difficult to put down
I need help I'm playing a healer lite build using celestial warlock and divine soul sorcerer. However while not recommended my character has a character specific melee weapon and again I'm not doing hex blade. Does it make sense to do six to seven levels of warlock than three levels of swashbuckler rogue and finish out the build with Divine soul sorcerer? Any and all thoughts will be helpful.
In the campaign I'm in we started at level 5 and we had to have levels in warlock and I went all 5 warlock so can I still make sorlock work with only leveling sorc now or?( Also for plot we all had to do undying warlocks)
I have actually made a character that is a Level 14 Fiend Warlock/6 Gloomstalker Ranger. I wanted to make the best sniper in the game, so they can be invisible in trees, snipe you from hundreds of feet away with sharpshooter and Improved Pact Weapon to get a long bow, as well as Eldritch Smites can be added on to any attack, not just melee. And then they also have the hurl through hell ability to do an extra 10d10 to non-fiends. And then they have misty step as well as a climbing speed with the new ranger stuff, so they can get away from any enemy that tries to find them in their hiding spot
At 20:17 you startled me out of my nap
Specifically, hypothetically, a Circle of Spores Druid makes a Celestial Pact... Necromancy, even more healing spells, and Wildshape...
Thanks for the content.
I'm playing a Noble Genie Warlock from Unearthed Arcana, and Rune Knight multiclass in a campaign with my friends.
I haven't progressed very far but I can't wait untill I can cast reduce on my enemies, pop enlarge skill on myself, and then I can punt them like a football!
One important subtlety you’re missing about Barbarians: just because they can’t cast spells while raging doesn’t mean they can’t use spell slots! Hexblade and Celestial Warlocks both benefit greatly from a Barbarian dip. Here’s a common Ragelock tactic:
Round 1: Cast Armor of Agathys, then rage. AoA is a non concentration spell, so it definitely stays active while raging. Plus, rage resistance allows your AoA to last waaay longer.
Round 2 onwards: Pick a melee reliant enemy and wear them down with a combination of good Barbarian offense and Armor of Agathys/Rage defense. Should you crit, use your remaining spell slot to Eldritch Smite.
17:02 correct me if I’m wrong but can’t sneak attack activate on ranged attacks? If so then there’s the option of using improved pact weapon and Eldridge smite to add more damage.
I misspoke, it works on melee and ranged weapon attacks
i don't get a clue of this but i can equip a giant sword and cast a blast a beam from my hands in bd3 right?
I want a monk multi-class video, just to make the mains happy. Also just want a video where he craps on them the whole time.
Warlock I believe is the best spellcaster multiclass for Barbarian. They have a lot of non concentration spells and very few slots, so the few times you do cast spells, they’re very potent. Armor of agathys or crown of stars are very handy on a Barb
Love these videos. Would you consider making an artificer multiclass tier list? You don’t cover Artificer much, but I’m curious to see what your opinions are on multiclassing with it.
I eventually want to get through all the classes so yes!
Monk/warlock is actually an interesting concept for a multiclass as it plays around with the short rest mechanic
I want to ask you a question I asked my friend:
lvl 40, 3 classes, min class lvl 10, max class lvl 18
what do you make?
I’m curious what his thoughts are for multiclassing warlock with blood hunter. I’ve been bouncy around the idea for either warlock rogue or warlock blood hunter in my campaign so I’m not sure which to take this
I know people have already probably said it, but Warlock/Barbarian, a.k.a. "Shadow Tank", is not as awful as it may seem. In fact, I think it's quite a force to reckon with. It doesn't play the same as a regular Warlock, however it gives you a magically enhanced tank, with crowd-control and damage-over-time capabilities. The Dnd Shorts youtube page did a video on it along with other underrated multiclasses, but I'll give the sparknotes version. Spells that don't require concentration but benefit you in combat (Armor of Agathys being the best one), as well as the Warlock Invocations like Cloak of Flies, Lifedrinker, Eldritch Smite, and Relentless Hex (if you're a Hexblade Warlock) makes you a gnarly force to be reckoned with. On top of that, if you pick up the popular invocation Devil's Sight, as well as the Sentinel Feat, you can cast Darkness on yourself and lock a creature inside of it with you. Considering you have a larger amount of hitpoints than a classic Warlock, you're most definitely walking out alive. Granted, you can't rage and concentrate on darkness, but if you have an ally that can cast darkness on you, you're golden!
I don't know if anyone one will see this but I think the best multiclass for monk is ranger. Best argument to make for that is maxing wisdom is vary potent specifically with Astral self monks, grabbing first level feat level feat for unarmed strike damage increase. Then for ranger, gloom stalker or even fey wanderer, you might get a serpents tongue or even increase dps ten fold. Swarmkeep, horizon walker, and fey wanderer get bonus damage for attack rolls. Not to mention getting a spell list. You'd become a God their explorer and skirmisher.
This song I praise monk for multiclassing with ranger as God tier
If you go Astral monk and ranger, it would probably be worth getting the druidic fighting style. That way you can get shileighly. Use your wis mod for your main attack and damage while helping you overcome most resistances by doing force damage. Plus you could get a utility or flavor cantrip to complement your build. Getting guidance as a way to flavor your advice to having a statistical impact or getting primal savagery as a call back to something in your backstory. Lots of fun getting some cantrips can be for your build.
My recent experiment into multiclassing warlock is actually with a single level of twilight cleric. I find it supplements really well for the more darkvision heavy campaigns I have it in and sleep is really good at those early levels. By choosing a warlock subclass that provides spare the dying, you can actually be really helpful there too. Now, to be honest, I prefer my warlock subclass to be genie. This is just more because I like the dynamic there better than other subclass options and having a genie vessel is just awesome. I also tend to beg for a broom of flying from my dm every time to the point they toss it in if I play a warlock these days. So basically I play that stereotypical image of a witch with a lantern on their broom. At least once I have leveled my warlock class up in genie to make it so I can bring my party into the genie vessel and basically turned my broom into a passenger airplane this way. It was hilarious but hey, it moved the plot along and allowed my party a rest so the dm allowed it. Anyway, yeah, I pick most of my combos for warlock multiclasses by just what sounds good for rp reasons and is still functional to the party. I have to say that, in play, I have had the most fun with genie warlock and a single level of twilight cleric. That character is a kenku named Pancake who has proficiency in, you probably guessed, cooking. I made him exclusively after my gloomstalker died and my party and I were opening a bakery with a property we had earned earlier. So yeah, this was more for rp fun. I also gave him pact of the chain. It was quite fun. His pseudo dragon familiar, Cookie, would regularly raid the baked goods but was a beloved mascot of the bakery so no npc was too mad about these antics. It was all quite hilarious.
Warlock bard is like the John Constantine multiclass
For people arguing that “RAW, Sorlock could generate spell slots with Font of Magic before naturally getting access to them”, that only applies to 4th and 5th level Spell Slots.
RAW, a Sorcerer cannot hold more Sorcery Points than their level, which prevents them from just stocking up on infinite Sorcery Points. The Metamagic Adept feat just lets you hold two more on top of the max.
So be glad that most DMs decide to remove the cap of Sorcery Points to even allow Coffeelock, because that shouldn’t be a thing normally.
Barbarian And 5 Levels in Warlock - pact of the blade is actually good. You can use Eldritch Smite while raging for big Dmg, and you could use armor if Agathus to get a big thp buff and putting out dmg.
And you have a lot of out of combat stuff
Wait, which subclass are we talking about?
Hex Blade, Arch Fail, Great Stinge One, or Field?
I think Fathomless' Tentacle of the Deep is great use of Bonus Action
We are considering all the subclasses as well as considering specific scenarios with specific builds.
With the warlock/wizard, just going up to 6th level in abjuration, the armor of shadows invocation gives you an at will, no resource needed hp pool that can be used for yourself or someone else as needed. And if you go 10/10 level split, you get counterspells and dispel magics that give you a free shield that you can use around the battlefield while being a warlock that still controls the area of combat.
There is nothing saying that you can't use eldritch smite and divine smite on the same attack, so a hexblade with a few levels in paladin could do the following with the following:
- Be 18 levels Hexblade Warlock and 2 levels Paladin
- Greatsword Pact Weapon
- Hexblade's Curse
- Thirsting Blade
- Eldritch Smite (5th level warlock slot)
- Divine Smite (5th level warlock slot)
- 1d8 Undead or Fiend Smite Target
- Great Weapon Master Feat
- Optional: Half Orc crit bonus
3d6+22 slashing + 5 necrotic +12d8 radiant +12d8 force
You can do that again at the end of a short rest and have a couple of 1st level slots for emergency shields or cure wounds.
In combat, I think sorlock is very strong not because of coffeelock, but because of eldritch blast+ quicken spell eldritch blast. By 17th level you have as many attacks as a 20th level fighter (assuming they only have one weapon and aren't two-weapon fighting) using action surge, and you can repeat this several times. Mix this with a first turn hex and the agonizing blast invocation, and you suddenly deal really great damage. It's functionally similiar to going 2 levels into fighter, but significantly stronger because you only need charisma to make it work. Not to mention, if you go more into sorcerer than warlock you get access to a much wider variety of spells, control, and my favorite mix personally is divine soul sorcerer with celestial warlock because it gives you all the utility you could ever need to support a party.
just a quick question for you since im not on the discord i hope you see this
Would you allow a Leonin to worship a religion based on the Lion King? I'm trying to convince my DM to let me do it but he's not budging and i REALLY need to play this character.
Please advise.
Also your tiktoks got me looking into DND then I started watching campaigns and now im addicted.
But with armor of agathys, and the vampire spell, you can bolster up the rage mage. So by focusing on stuff that reheal you, strong reactions like hellish rebuke, and even fireball would be nice before you go into rage. And obviously play the rage mage, by being Wild magic barb and Warlock
Once played a Corgi Archfey Warlock/Oath of Ancients Paladin dedicated to the fae Lord Corgnelius, and being the goodest boy. Was a ton of fun and just thematically nice
Reskinned tabaxi who was small, flavored him as an awakened corgi who was awakened by his lord for being a loyal steed for many years.
Was watching your Review Fan builds. Was curious about your thoughts on this low build and what you would change or continue.. 5 levels of Warlock.Genie warlock. (For Bottled Respite to keep things with you without weighing you down) (Eldritch Invocations ...Improved Pact Weapon ( making your pack weapon a Longbow) Thirsting Blade.. +1 to att and damage. and Eldritch Smite)... 3 levels of Rogue. Assassin and 3 levels of Ranger (Gloomstalker). I was looking for a good burst stealth archer. Love to hear your thoughts. Thanks
Maybe add 2 or 3 lvls of fighter to double down with arcane archers arcane shot?
Note about sneak attack, sneak attack also takes place at if you are using a bow, which level 2 Hexblade does give you access to.
Currently level 5 Hexblade with Pact of the Blade, I'm thinking of dipping into 1 level of Wizard for the 2 extra level 1 slots for Hex and Shield, as well as ritual spells like Find Familiar (for RP reasons) and Identify etc.
I'm the only arcane caster in my party so i think the extra utility would help greatly, plus Arcane Recovery lets Wizard recover some slots on a short rest like Warlock does.
Warlocks are so, so so, versatile I find them hard to multiclass besides just a dip
Abjuration wizard + bard = unstoppable counterspells
Something I noticed you might have missed. A rogues sneak attack goes off as long as an ally/ foe of the target, is with in 5 ft of the target. You can make a ranged sneak attack with a long bow at max range as long as you don't have disadvantage.
I love Artificer as s two level dip, especially for an archer with the Repeating Shot, or the IPW Bow.
Seen some cool combos with devil sight and shadow monk but now you can just use a feat to get it so not worth the monk class, feywanderer ranger with warlock isn't bad cause of stacking wisdom and charisma for certain abilities checks and such, I think there is some interesting play with celestial warlock and cleric for RP and certain subclasses, I'm happy you put fighter in the same ranking as sorcerer because of the metamagics but there are some better combos then just the coffee-lock. Love the video and it gave me so many missing pieces to character concepts I have on the ready.
You said sneak attack requires you to get into melee. What I think you mean to say is that a sneak attack requires you to be using a weapon instead of casting spells. A sneak attack specifies using a ranged weapon or a finesse weapon and therefore requires a weapon attack. This works really well with the pact of the blade route for the warlock, and there are a lot of invocations for the warlock that compliments rogue very well, but at that point, it's less focused on the warlock and more focused on the rogue. I would argue that certain subclasses of the rogue are infinitely better for a warlock than others: for instance, arcane trickster requires too many stats to be good with a warlock, but mastermind would allow a warlock face to do extremely well in a more rp-centric campaign setting, assassin's level 3 ability assassinate allows any attack on a surprised creature to be a crit which would include eldritch blasts or spell attacks, thief's fast hands ability works well with scrolls, wands, or other magical objects which can synergize well with a warlock depending on the gm, and swashbuckler hexblade could be really strong (but swashbuckler with anything else would probably be garbage). I agree with your rating, however, I really like dipping into warlock with a rogue for one with the shadows and mask of many faces, and I understand the point of the video was mainly mixing in predominate warlock, not mixing in predominately other classes.
One interesting feature of Druid/Warlock multiclass, Moon Druids can spend a spell slot to heal themselves as a bonus action while they're wild shaped. It's not quite as good as using it to just cast Cure Wounds, but it's a bonus action so that's pretty nice. Chain Warlocks have an invocation called Gift of the Ever Living Ones that maximizes any healing done to them to the highest roll possible, as long as their familiar is nearby. This might be more of a Druid who multiclassed into Warlock thing than a Warlock who mced into Druid, though
I'd say that the Warlock/Rogue multiclass settles as around A-tier for me, but only for one reason: Hexblade/Swashbuckler. Sure, most of the other subclasses don't mesh well enough, but Hexblades are essentially allowed to play the battlefield however they want, whenever they're paired with Swashbuckler. You can Eldritch Smite a lone enemy (with a Sneak Attack kicker), you can dash backwards and land Eldritch Blasts, you can Booming Blade, then dash away with help from Cunning Action and Fancy Footwork, like... the possible combos are endless. Plus, that +Cha to Initiative is just _crunchy._
A lot of people are ignoring pact of the blade warlock and totem barbarian. It's so much fun to play because you can use just about any weapon while being very beefy.
How would you rank it with no stat requirements to multiclass
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I like whispers bard with warlock. Very versatile
My Creation is a Tabaxi Rogue Warlock archfey combo.
Cunning action to get away+ tabaxy feat to double the speed + archfey teleportation invisibility if you get hit .+ eldritch blast pushing enemies away 10 feat per hit.
Good luck catching him ever and at lw 10 you are immune to charm and can return it on the enemy if they try it.
Home brew idea: Barbarian warlock who can ONLY use the spells when in rage
Warrior lock
So, another thing to add about the bardlock multiclass. You can make a smite build out of it with college of whispers 'psychic blades' feature. You can stack it with eldritch smite. And get all the other bardic goodies that come with it.
Is there any chance we could get an artificer review? Either the subclasses by themselves or multi-classing
Rogue gets steady aim as well. It’s a little deeper dip but advantage on attacks is excellent.
Alrighty, I'll be the guy to say it;
A good rule of thumb when multi-classing if your looking for optimization, any class(es) that share a stat with your base class is usually going to be a good option. This means Bard, Sorcerer, Paladin, Warlock are good options for CHA casters, while classes like Monk, Fighter, Ranger, Rogue are good options for DEX based classes, or melee combat.
Subclasses and feats obviously can influence this role and synergy A swords bard, swashbuckler rogue, with the alert feat is going to have more combat viability in melee then something like a lore bard, and shadow sorcerer.
A class may be good on its own, or intermixed in some specialty but not every class is going to function the same as the other when paired up. Barbarian fighter is a good multiclass, but barbarian wizard isn't
Remember when multiclass meant three classes and dual-class meant two classes?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
As someone who has a Warlock Bard... I agree. It is by far a great combo.
rouge/walock one of the edgiest multiclass's ever
I've been considering a warlock fighter, but with a genie as my patron. Any opinions?
As a person that played variant human, took the Magic Initiate feat, and did a bunch of other stuff to get like a million cantrips by about level 3, I can confirm, warlock is pretty good and has a lot of spells
You are wrong in one thing. The bard is the second best in counter spelling in the game. The best character to do that is the abjurer after 10th level. At this point, he has an automatic +4 in proficiency bonus to use it, a number that will increase to +6 at 17th lvl. It is expected for an abjurer from lvl 17 to use counterspell with a +11 bonus.
Artillerist artificer and warlock are actually pretty good. Arcane firearm d8 bonus can be added to one of your eldritch blast beams as well as hex. With 18 charisma, level 5, with agonizing blast, has an average of 23 damage assuming 2 hits. Also throw in a fireblast or force blast from your cannon.
Astral self monk on its own is really fun.
I actually think Artificer/Warlock could be really good with the right build in mind. Armorer artificer gets you heavy armor without needing strength, the thunder gauntlets let you soft taunt enemies to draw fire to you, and then warlock gives you armor of agathys to punish them for hitting you and pad your hp, plus hellish rebuke and other great retaliation spells. Could make a really cool tank build with that multiclass, might have to try it.
7:16 add Enhance Ability to practically guarantee a successful counter/dispel.
My Tier List
G: Fighter, Sorc
A: Bard, Pally
B: Barb (pretty much nock off pally build), Rogue,
C: Cleric, Druid, Ranger
D: Art, Monk, Wizard,
Sooooo. . . If one wished to capitalize on action serge and as much as possible of gloomstalker extra attacks on opening round with a streight up machine gun agonizing blast build, how many levels would you need in gloomstalker? And what all would you grab from fighter? Eldritch knight for battle field controll lev 2 spells? What is the monster build that can be made here?
I think offbeat made a build that does SO MANY attack rolls. fighter/hexblade/gloomstalker/bladesinger/sorcerer I think will get you there with three eldrich blasts and 4 weapon attacks for roughly 17 attacks.
counter point to the barbarian multiclass being bottom of C tier: Armor of Agathys.
Casting Time:
1 action
Range/Area:
Self
Components:
V, S, M(a cup of water)
Duration:
1 hour
Source:
PHB, pg. 215
A protective magical force surrounds you, manifesting as a spectral frost that covers you and your gear. You gain 5 temporary hit points for the duration. If a creature hits you with a melee attack while you have these hit points, the creature takes 5 cold damage.
At Higher Levels. When you cast this spell using a spell slot of 2nd level or higher, both the temporary hit points and the cold damage increase by 5 for each slot.
This is not Concentration and has an hour of up time after a cast. assuming you take majority warlock levels you are likely to use a 5th lvl pact slot to cast this on yourself giving 25 temp hp that reflects damage upon taking a melee hit and the temp hp is effectively doubled with rage.
TLDR 25hp Armor of Agathys feels like 50 from rage and reflect 25 cold damage every time you are hit which is likely if you take barbarian levels .
Why would the dm try to hit you then. A good dm would cast dispel magic first, or simply ignore you.
also quick note cloak of flies eldritch invocation pairs well with any melee and is also not concentration.
If you multi class warlock with assassin rouge you get the steady aim feature letting you get sneak attack damage on eldritch blasts which even at only 2d6 extra damage any level one warlock can do 1d10+2d6 damage consistently plus adding in hexblade gives you the hexblade curse which lets you crit on a 19 which can double that damage amount so it’s not too bad in my opinion and if you are a hexblade you can use this feature when you are next to an enemy to do the same thing with your sword it’s a very fun mechanic that I would highly recommend
You cannot apply sneak attack to spell attacks so this would not work, you also can only apply the damage anyway once per turn. So even if this did work you would only increase the damage by 7.
Ah thanks I always think of it as ranged attacks it still works for hexblades ig but not as useful anyways enjoyed the video lots thanks for correcting me!
What do you think of paladin 8 vengeance, rogue 3 swash, 9 warlock hexblade? All the charisma heavy melee hits and some ambush tactics playing it kind of like an under world bounty hunter. D&d equalizer.
I love warlock, but I find it nearly impossible to justify taking more than 7 levels of it before switching over to or back to my main class.
The one time I'd take warlock beyond 7 is if I'm not mixing it with a full caster, I'm on fathomless warlock, and I'm going for the level 14 pond teleport trick. There's nothing quite like seeing the look on the DM's face when you pull up to the entrance to the dungeon, say "Hold on guys. I need to quicksave." and then pull out Mold Earth and a Decanter of Endless Water to make a pond.
If you ho to 9th or 11th on a hexblade its insane. At 9th you get 5th level slots, which means you get 5th level smites and banishing smite. 11 is kinda crazy too bc you have a chance to just not get hit even when an attack wouldn't normally, on top of things like Sheild
Hot Take: monk is a C tier multiclass for Warlock
My reasoning is that between Ki points and unarmored movement, subclasses other than hexblade can get some good use out of this. The unarmored movement is not much, but will allow them to out run most npcs. And what they can do with Ki points can help them get out of bad situations. Being able to dodge/dash/disengage as a bonus action can be life saving in some circumstances. Plus tge unarmored defense and dex based melee helps them in some niche circumstances or against certain monsters like the beholder. Having a unarmored ac in a antimagic field or in case you are ambushed while asleep it can be impactfull. Obviously it is still low C, but I would say it is better than Barbarian
I disagree for a number of reasons. One, choosing Barbarian at 1st lvl nets you 12+Con HP right off the bat, plus Barbarian also gives unarmored defense at Dex+Con+Shield, where Monk doesn't allow that. Two, 1st lvl Barbarian gets you Con/Str saves compared to Dex/Str saves that monk give. Not that Dex saves aren't important, but when concentration is on the line, you want con. Thirdly, Monk's abilities *require* melee, where Barbarian doesn't with thrown weapons. Fourthly, barbarian has better proficiencies than monks. All monk has in synergy with Warlock is more attacks (in melee) to utilize hex, and very limited step of the wind. Rage is awful, never gonna deny that, but barbarian has enough over monk that monk gets shit on still. MAD is bad in both cases, though.
@@MythrilShotgun rage and reckless attack only benefit melee attacks, so the only thing barbarian gives you is ranged weapons. 2nd I am not factoring in starting your builds as a class other than your main class. So unless you start with Barbarian the only thing it gives you that is worth while is advantaged on dex saves at lvl 2 ranged weapons (which eldritch blast with agonizing blast is better) and rapiers as a melee weapon (since your main build will be relying on chr dex and con) I will admit the barbarian unarmored defense is better, but the monk has a bit more get out of melee abilities which I think is more useful for non hexblade warlocks. For hexblade warlocks barbarian is definitely better since they can fall back on rage if they are in a slog and run out of spell slots, or if they need to be a little extra tanky for a round or 2 if the main tank goes down.
There is a tiny amount synergy between monk and warlock. Pick a dwarf, take dwarven fortitude (let's you heal when you take the dodge action), pick chain with the gift of the ever living 1 invocation (you regain max hp from healing), hope for a periapt of wound closure (auto stabilize and regain double healing from hit dies). So that is 2d8 healing from a bonus action dodge.
@@woutvanostaden1299 your mechanics and math are on point, but for the sake of this thread I am not considering feats or races otherwise we would need a full on reddit post to discuss this. Also just to point out, I don't think that monk is a good multiclass option, just that it is low C tier, not D tier in my opinion
Not sure if this works or not, but it seems that rules as written you could go 2 levels into hexblade warlock, then rouge all th way after, at warlock 2/rouge 3, you could pick up the thirsting blade invocation. You could also go five levels warlock, (or play a race that gives you darkness for free) and take the devils sight invocation, cast darkness, advantage on attack rolls, sneak attack, amd booming blade.
Monk has early evasion feature plus if you have a jag for a dm if you cast with enemies near you get attacked your never without weapons. Dodge as bonus.
With barbarians have a good listing of cast and forget. Like at least the armor.
My bad just now cracked the book but if you don't want all the warlock lvs it take 7 for the evasion which sucks but at 6 if you choose shadow you have a pesky teleporter in dungeons for the shadows they don't tell you limits soooooo ..