I've only recently started my disc golf journey but this is by far the best video I've found to explain stability specifically, all the charts and pictures along with disc examples and throws finally made a bunch of things click that I hadn't really understood yet. Hats off to you for the awesome content!
This is THE BEST video I've seen regarding stability for beginners. Thank you for going into detail and showing tons of examples. Those are things I couldn't find in any other video!
As a lefty and a new player, THANK YOU for explaining it this way. Having to constantly pause videos and mentally picture the disc having the opposite reaction to a throw gets very old. Thank you for taking us Lefties into consideration.
I used to hand write, draw diagrams, copy machine, and distribute such info. Not sure if it ever made that much sense to anyone at the time. Love me some good understable discs. Nothing is as fun as throwing a dinged up old dx leopard on a hyzer with some height, seeing it flip up, turn to the right, and then fade back to the center way off in the distance
I could play the courses around me with a leopard and an aveir I do love my IT ...I can curve it and throw it straight still a beginner but, getting closer to an intermediate
Awesome video I think I finally understand the difference between under and over stable discs great explanation with details of wind, arm speed and suggested discs. My best disc right now is Tbird looking to increase to a 8,9 10 and 11 speeds. Any suggestions would be great. I’m a big Innova fan. Thanks again Bob
Great video! One question, @07:15 , you share this tip "A good rule of thumb is to pay attention to the flight of your disc. If it constantly faids left, for RBH, earlier than intended, it might be time to try a disc with a higher speed rating. That is why it is recommended if your new to disc golf, start with lower speed discs." Is this saying that if your fading to the left, to try a higher speed disc or is it saying the opposite?
They said what you typed but that's actually backwards- if the thrower can't throw "fast" enough, the discs will fade early or the entire flight. A slower speed disc or more understable disc could help.
@@AutobahnSHO thanks! Does this also mean that regardless of the direction the disc naturally fades, you can put more or less spin on the disc to get less or more fade, respectively?
@@elkellanzo1256 less spin will add fade, but it's tough to control the amount of spin and "speed" (Distance) at the same time. I don't think anyone tries to do that intentionally. For the most part, the more spin the better, and people will throw "slower" discs to get less fade (but also more turn).
You are right, he contradicts himself. This is the closed captioning: "When you're starting out it's best to choose a disc with a lower speed rating say between 4 and 7 as these discs are easy to control and require less power for a straight flight. If a novice throws a high speed disc they might encounter some challenges due to their still developing techniques in arm speed. One common issue is that the disc will fade earlier and more drastically than intended. This happens because the disc isn't reaching the required speed for it to maintain a straight flight. As a result the disc will Veer to the left for a right-handed backhanded thrower or to the right for left-handed backhander throwers. As you practice and develop your Technique you'll notice your arm speed increasing you can then gradually move up to discs with higher speed ratings. A good rule of thumb is to pay attention to the flight of your disk, if it constantly Fades left the right-handed backhand throws or right for left-handed backhanded throwers earlier than intended it might be time to try a disc with a *higher speed* rating. That's why it's recommended if you're new to disc golf to start with lower speed discs which are easier to control and require less power." I'm gonna say he probably just mispoke at the end and meant to say "if you are fading left earlier and too drastically, try a lower speed disc".
When throwing right hand side arm does the term stable and understable become opposite? I realize the turn and fade are opposite but not sure if a stable disc would be considered understable and vice versa. Thanks.
No, the terms are the same, just reversed. A RH forehand will fade right, so overstable will help it go more right the entire flight. Understable RH forehand throw would fly more left before fading right.
I like walking into pro shops and saying my discs only go 300'. I'm looking for a disc that can go 500'. Of course I'm just joking. But I did once throw my Opto Ballista 422'. I generally don't throw more than 350' though. Shryke and Hades are my go to discs for distance.
@EffortlessDiscGolf actually yes. I have a Retro River and an Opto River which I custom dyed myself, AND I played Winthrop (The USDGC course) January of 2022 and absolutely nailed the triple Mando on hole 7 with it! Love the River for dead straight shots as well as my Christine Jenkins Sidewinder.
Good content...but all is bias to RH/B/F players...You talk about LH releases in mere seconds....Can you please consider doing the same type of report for LH players...without any discussion on how RH players do their thing...I like the content, but have to keep re watching to extract LH value on any disc, number or flight....
Because 1-4 speed are usually just putters which aren’t used often for full flight throws. Most disc you will use to drive with start at 4-5 speed midranges and 6+ for drivers.
I’ve looked at so many videos on disc stability as a beginner, but this video has been by far the best to understand what the disc is meant to do
Thanks for the comments. Glad you liked it!
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I've only recently started my disc golf journey but this is by far the best video I've found to explain stability specifically, all the charts and pictures along with disc examples and throws finally made a bunch of things click that I hadn't really understood yet. Hats off to you for the awesome content!
Thanks so much! Glad you liked it
I have to agree with the comments here. I've just started playing and this covers many questions.
I have been playing for a little while and have never been able to find such a good explanation for under/overstable. Thanks for a great video!
This is THE BEST video I've seen regarding stability for beginners. Thank you for going into detail and showing tons of examples. Those are things I couldn't find in any other video!
Glad it was helpful!
As a lefty and a new player, THANK YOU for explaining it this way. Having to constantly pause videos and mentally picture the disc having the opposite reaction to a throw gets very old. Thank you for taking us Lefties into consideration.
Just started playing! Thankyou for the valuable information!
been playing for years. found your channel by random. Great content and great info for beginers.
Found your channel dudes! Lookin fw to goin out and learning to crush this
Thanks Raz! Welcome to the community. Here's to you having a great season of disc golf!
I used to hand write, draw diagrams, copy machine, and distribute such info.
Not sure if it ever made that much sense to anyone at the time.
Love me some good understable discs.
Nothing is as fun as throwing a dinged up old dx leopard on a hyzer with some height, seeing it flip up, turn to the right, and then fade back to the center way off in the distance
I could play the courses around me with a leopard and an aveir
I do love my IT ...I can curve it and throw it straight
still a beginner but, getting closer to an intermediate
Awesome video I think I finally understand the difference between under and over stable discs great explanation with details of wind, arm speed and suggested discs. My best disc right now is Tbird looking to increase to a 8,9 10 and 11 speeds. Any suggestions would be great. I’m a big Innova fan.
Thanks again
Bob
The Innova star firebird! 9304 feels so good for long tight hyzers
MVP wave is my favorite disc. Slightly understable
Great video! One question, @07:15 , you share this tip "A good rule of thumb is to pay attention to the flight of your disc. If it constantly faids left, for RBH, earlier than intended, it might be time to try a disc with a higher speed rating. That is why it is recommended if your new to disc golf, start with lower speed discs." Is this saying that if your fading to the left, to try a higher speed disc or is it saying the opposite?
They said what you typed but that's actually backwards- if the thrower can't throw "fast" enough, the discs will fade early or the entire flight. A slower speed disc or more understable disc could help.
@@AutobahnSHO thanks! Does this also mean that regardless of the direction the disc naturally fades, you can put more or less spin on the disc to get less or more fade, respectively?
@@elkellanzo1256 less spin will add fade, but it's tough to control the amount of spin and "speed" (Distance) at the same time. I don't think anyone tries to do that intentionally. For the most part, the more spin the better, and people will throw "slower" discs to get less fade (but also more turn).
@@AutobahnSHO thanks! That makes a lot of sense.
You are right, he contradicts himself. This is the closed captioning:
"When you're starting out it's best to choose a disc with a lower speed rating say between 4 and 7 as these discs are easy to control and require less power for a straight flight. If a novice throws a high speed disc they might encounter some challenges due to their still developing techniques in arm speed. One common issue is that the disc will fade earlier and more drastically than intended. This happens because the disc isn't reaching the required speed for it to maintain a straight flight. As a result the disc will Veer to the left for a right-handed backhanded thrower or to the right for left-handed backhander throwers. As you practice and develop your Technique you'll notice your arm speed increasing you can then gradually move up to discs with higher speed ratings. A good rule of thumb is to pay attention to the flight of your disk, if it constantly Fades left the right-handed backhand throws or right for left-handed backhanded throwers earlier than intended it might be time to try a disc with a *higher speed* rating. That's why it's recommended if you're new to disc golf to start with lower speed discs which are easier to control and require less power."
I'm gonna say he probably just mispoke at the end and meant to say "if you are fading left earlier and too drastically, try a lower speed disc".
this is a cool video
My understable and overstable both turns right with forehand. The understable will float more on hyper, but to much and it won't turn back to right
Does the chart flip if you throw flick/forehand?
When throwing right hand side arm does the term stable and understable become opposite? I realize the turn and fade are opposite but not sure if a stable disc would be considered understable and vice versa.
Thanks.
No, the terms are the same, just reversed. A RH forehand will fade right, so overstable will help it go more right the entire flight. Understable RH forehand throw would fly more left before fading right.
hey evan, im evan
7min to 7.40 contradicting no?
I like walking into pro shops and saying my discs only go 300'. I'm looking for a disc that can go 500'. Of course I'm just joking. But I did once throw my Opto Ballista 422'. I generally don't throw more than 350' though. Shryke and Hades are my go to discs for distance.
Have you tried the River? Has pretty crazy glide
@EffortlessDiscGolf actually yes. I have a Retro River and an Opto River which I custom dyed myself, AND I played Winthrop (The USDGC course) January of 2022 and absolutely nailed the triple Mando on hole 7 with it! Love the River for dead straight shots as well as my Christine Jenkins Sidewinder.
Good content...but all is bias to RH/B/F players...You talk about LH releases in mere seconds....Can you please consider doing the same type of report for LH players...without any discussion on how RH players do their thing...I like the content, but have to keep re watching to extract LH value on any disc, number or flight....
Why did you recommend 4-7 speeds for beginners? Why not recommend 1-4 speeds to beginners instead?
Personally, I started with some really slow discs are later learned I was overthrowing them all.
Because 1-4 speed are usually just putters which aren’t used often for full flight throws.
Most disc you will use to drive with start at 4-5 speed midranges and 6+ for drivers.
Why are they dressing in golf clothes
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