"But they must be destroyed" | How Rocky Mountain makes (and breaks) mountain bikes

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  • We visit Rocky Mountain's research and development lab on the North Shore of Vancouver, BC, to see what goes in to bringing a mountain bike from the drawing board to the trails.
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    00:00 - History lesson with Wade Simmons
    5:44 - Off topic?
    7:42 - Talking with Lyle about their testing process
    8:40 - Creating test bikes prior to development
    10:50 - Head tube flex machine
    12:15 - Breaking a frame
    15:03 - Head tube strength
    15:30 - Pedaling a bike to death on the pedal tester
    18:13 - Ebike test mules
    19:09 - Aligning frames on the alignment table
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  • @psclassy1123
    @psclassy1123 Рік тому +16

    Wade Simmons put a riser bar on my new Kona Caldera in the 90s when he was at the Cove shop. He and I were the only ones in the shop that night chatting it up and he said he was in a bike film premiering that week downtown in Vancouver. He told me that he hopes this whole free riding thing he was involved in takes off and was a success. Cool to have meet him that way.

  • @dawnpoint
    @dawnpoint Рік тому +57

    Obi-Wan is an incredible bike engineer.

    • @FanatikBikeCo
      @FanatikBikeCo  Рік тому

      Indeed. Who'da thunk!
      - Dan P.

    • @CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes
      @CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes 9 місяців тому

      Tell me you never get laid without actually telling me you never, and I mean never, get laid.

    • @mtbracer123
      @mtbracer123 3 місяці тому

      @@CANNABISfreedomNOtaxeshe said something funny why you hating

    • @CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes
      @CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes 3 місяці тому

      @mtbracer123 you kinda took that personally eh?

    • @mtbracer123
      @mtbracer123 3 місяці тому

      @@CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes not really your just being a dick for no reason

  • @mug3l
    @mug3l Рік тому +26

    Wade has enough energy for two people.

    • @FanatikBikeCo
      @FanatikBikeCo  Рік тому +6

      He was great. Absolute character.
      Cheers - Dan P.

    • @iffy_too4289
      @iffy_too4289 Рік тому +1

      He's like a Canadian Rob Warner!

  • @HUKIT.
    @HUKIT. Рік тому +14

    That was pretty damn interesting, well done lads.

  • @segamethod
    @segamethod Рік тому +5

    Lyle's comments about how small or new manufacturers with just a few frames under their umbrella having a tough time resonates with me. I had a Revel Rascal for a few years, which was honestly a pretty great bike in a lot of ways, but suffered greatly from poor frame alignment and quality. The bearings ate themselves, it always made noise, it was way heavier than it should have been. I think Revel has a lot of potential, but in retrospect I should have known better than to buy one of their debut models.

  • @LalBikes1
    @LalBikes1 Рік тому +3

    Great video all around. Fingers crossed Lyle doesn't join the dark side.

  • @alexrobles6492
    @alexrobles6492 Рік тому +3

    Awesome video. Very interesting. 👍

  • @Neanderstaal
    @Neanderstaal Рік тому +2

    I could listen to Lyle explain stuff all day long.

  • @dirtwolfmtb
    @dirtwolfmtb 7 місяців тому

    This sales guy makes me want to buy a Rocky just watching this video. Great video guys! Cool to see so much of the brains and work to make great bikes.

  • @thinkpadBentnoseTheBlind
    @thinkpadBentnoseTheBlind Рік тому +4

    I only have one rocky. A red 1991 Rocky Mountain Hammer.

  • @guillaume.legrand8270
    @guillaume.legrand8270 Рік тому +3

    Well done! Very interesting video.
    What about the pain test for their carbon frame?

  • @22corgis
    @22corgis 6 місяців тому

    Nice to see what goes into making one of their bikes! I bought my first mtb, a RM Growler recently and it’s amazing I love bopping around town with it 😍

  • @believe8263
    @believe8263 Рік тому +2

    Good job Dan.

  • @averagejoe5653
    @averagejoe5653 Рік тому +1

    Great video!

  • @impaledface7694
    @impaledface7694 10 місяців тому +1

    Very cool. My most ridden rocky is an element 70 from 2009. Never let me down.

  • @twinshock175
    @twinshock175 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for that insider look to a process we all take for granted. I was just as laid back as you think, but serious enough to have confidence in a product. I have now more respect for their bikes after seeing this, and been looking at RM bikes too to upgrade in the future.

    • @FanatikBikeCo
      @FanatikBikeCo  Рік тому

      Glad you enjoyed it! Lyle was a wealth of knowledge, it was cool getting to talk to him.
      Holler if you ever have any questions about the bikes!
      - Dan P.

  • @DoctorDefiler
    @DoctorDefiler Рік тому +2

    Uncle Wade!

  • @dems_mtb
    @dems_mtb Рік тому

    great video!

  • @ethanrevitch
    @ethanrevitch Рік тому +1

    Hoo Koo E Koo Trail is right out my front door!

  • @danandkiko
    @danandkiko 11 місяців тому +1

    So fascinating. Glad I watched this.

  • @bikeninja956
    @bikeninja956 Рік тому +1

    Very fascinating exposé, my kinda thing..

  • @bobsoft
    @bobsoft Рік тому +1

    I still own an old school Rocky Mountain Hammer in black. I also have a 2004 Balfa BB7 that was briefly owned by Rocky. Used to have a Blizzard that was hand built by Chris Dekerf.

    • @FanatikBikeCo
      @FanatikBikeCo  Рік тому

      Oh dang. That's some real bike history right there!
      Cheers - Dan P.

  • @NoShredDad
    @NoShredDad 7 місяців тому

    Snapped a seat stay right at the rear axle last year on my 2018 RM a instinct A50. Rocky did warranty it, but it’s a common occurrence with RM rear triangles. I did love my RM thou.

  • @mathewbascom1811
    @mathewbascom1811 Рік тому +2

    I just bought my first rocky mountain 11 days ago, a growler, because I wanted a DH capable climbing bike for under 1k that I can play with and build over time. And because who wouldn't look like a psychopath showing up to the group ride on a hardtail with slacker geo than most fs rigs.😅🤙

  • @corydalus981
    @corydalus981 9 місяців тому

    I have a Thunderbolt in the same Canadacentric paint scheme as seen at 0:33. I love the bike, and the look. In a sea of bikes that are black with accents in various neon colors, it really stands out.

    • @YouTubeOdyssey
      @YouTubeOdyssey 9 місяців тому

      I'm in Wa. State, can you define " Canadacentric "?

    • @corydalus981
      @corydalus981 9 місяців тому +1

      @@UA-camOdyssey the red on white motif with the red maple leaves!

  • @iffy_too4289
    @iffy_too4289 Рік тому +1

    such an interesting video, thanks!

  • @curtvaughan2836
    @curtvaughan2836 Рік тому +1

    Very informative - I wonder if most mass produced frames get thorough testing like this.

    • @ronnie2.039
      @ronnie2.039 Рік тому +1

      Rocky Mountain are mass produced

    • @ih302
      @ih302 Рік тому +1

      RM frames like basically every other company's frames are made in Asia, some of the best frames in the world come out of Taiwan. What you are seeing in this video is product development.

  • @Whateva67
    @Whateva67 7 місяців тому +1

    I have an ‘01 Slayer, still has the original tires on it. Clearly I didn’t ride it enough. Looks good though and looks brand new. 😊

  • @Themilkmanskid.
    @Themilkmanskid. Місяць тому

    I love doin' wheelies on my RM. It's a bit heavy for hours of wheelies, but I'm leaner than ever and old as dirt.

  • @jjac72
    @jjac72 6 місяців тому

    I bought the rocky mountain fusion and upgraded few parts . Rm makes awesome bikes

  • @youtube7076
    @youtube7076 11 місяців тому +1

    now i did hit play,! and love it! more color grading tho eh..

  • @ssjj9584
    @ssjj9584 Рік тому +1

    I thought freeride originated in Laguna in late 70’s early 80’s with Laguna tech terrain and the Rads?

  • @ROSE-by5su
    @ROSE-by5su Рік тому

    I have question, there are some bikes that are not like the main market let’s say a Slopestyle bike I have seen Rockymountain Slopestyle bike and it was really cool but of course they don’t sell it. What if companies just make it order to made or made to order something like that I would happy to wait

    • @FanatikBikeCo
      @FanatikBikeCo  Рік тому

      I think you hit the nail on the head as to why they aren't mass produced-the brand doesn't see enough of a market for them. That said, these types of bikes are available from smaller manufacturers, I bet you could find one for sale with a little digging!
      Cheers - Dan P.

  • @thinkpadBentnoseTheBlind
    @thinkpadBentnoseTheBlind Рік тому +1

    many did the Element style. Giant, Caloi, Mongoose etc... but for cross country i thought they were the best as climbing means much to me

  • @youtube7076
    @youtube7076 11 місяців тому +1

    tell wade simmons to put some beard shine in! and that his designs are boss man bro siick! send it!

  • @youtube7076
    @youtube7076 11 місяців тому +1

    i did not yet hit play, just wanted to say, BEST FUXKING DESC/THUMB EVER!.

  • @GHinWI
    @GHinWI Рік тому

    It’s like they’re making a new season of “The Red Green Show”!

  • @nicgur_6981
    @nicgur_6981 Рік тому +2

    He looks like the guy from myth busters💀

    • @FanatikBikeCo
      @FanatikBikeCo  Рік тому

      Ha, he kinda does! Lyle was a great host and super informative.
      Cheers - Dan P.

  • @bikebudha01
    @bikebudha01 Рік тому

    I just but a deposit on (2) new Element C50s... this video only makes me more excited about getting the bikes...

  • @ExhumedToConsume
    @ExhumedToConsume Рік тому

    Wade is a menace and I mean that in the best way possible lol

  • @ih302
    @ih302 Рік тому

    I got a Growler 50 on the way!

  • @youtube7076
    @youtube7076 11 місяців тому +1

    2:12 you! wtf! thats how last years suspension was geometried and you were doing them "in the EARLY 200s ", siick, so so flex!

  • @DionEconomopoulos-ks1gz
    @DionEconomopoulos-ks1gz 5 місяців тому

    Lol these guys don't give a fawk... I like it!

  • @charleslawton8764
    @charleslawton8764 Рік тому +2

    Bike testing… of course it’s measured in cycles!

  • @oscarfabian8074
    @oscarfabian8074 Рік тому +1

    Yup, he went way more rad than he should have.

  • @andyjonathan2486
    @andyjonathan2486 Рік тому +1

    17:21 sounds like they are lacking FEA simulation capabilities.

    • @maciejzwolinski4022
      @maciejzwolinski4022 Рік тому +2

      Sounds more like FEA helps but real tests give touchable results

    • @tristanhanley8741
      @tristanhanley8741 Рік тому

      FEA only tells you so much, definitely a GIGO situation though. There is a reason that physical testing still has a place in engineering

    • @andyjonathan2486
      @andyjonathan2486 Рік тому

      @@maciejzwolinski4022 trial and error testing prototypes can be very expensive and much slower to arrive at a solution. When strain gauge measurements can be used in conjunction with FEA, the end model can be very accurate.
      Using the old-time “By Guess and By Golly” approach to design is antiquated and inefficient. I can’t think of a single automotive engineering company that will produce suspension components without FEA simulation beforehand.

    • @andyjonathan2486
      @andyjonathan2486 Рік тому

      @@tristanhanley8741 agreed. Either the design engineer was provided garbage input loads into the shock tab, or he didn’t run any stress analysis before cutting metal.
      Definitely the test lab is the last line of defense to guard against component failures-I’m somewhat surprised RM shared this design flaw on UA-cam, as most OEMs are pretty tight lipped.

    • @maciejzwolinski4022
      @maciejzwolinski4022 Рік тому +1

      Who said they don't run FEA simulations? Random guy in a UA-cam comment section? Take a look at Ministry cycles psalm frame - cracked prototype during efbe test despite FEA analysis. Same about kaventz.

  • @BGWordneemig
    @BGWordneemig Рік тому

    You Know, You Know, You know. etc. ......

  • @laurafulton7023
    @laurafulton7023 Рік тому

    Boycott Rocky Mtn until they’re made in Canada again

  • @jasonlewis6914
    @jasonlewis6914 Рік тому +2

    Go titanium ull have a bike for life

  • @NickRaven
    @NickRaven Рік тому +1

    Very informative, but it seemed like the cameraman was constantly on their phone distracted, things out of frame, moving around chaotically, little stabilization, etc. I had to stop watching because it felt like they were gonna walk away at random points.

  • @CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes
    @CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes 9 місяців тому

    Rocky Mountain had so much potential in the early 2000s. Now they're just an afterthought in the mind of the consumer.

  • @shanedejong7636
    @shanedejong7636 Рік тому +1

    So what’s the new bike they’re testing 🫣

  • @southpawlibranine3511
    @southpawlibranine3511 Рік тому

    Is the host a serial killer

    • @FanatikBikeCo
      @FanatikBikeCo  Рік тому

      Serial killer of bike frames!!
      Lyle was a phenomenal host and incredibly knowledgeable.
      - Dan P.

    • @southpawlibranine3511
      @southpawlibranine3511 Рік тому

      @@FanatikBikeCo i was talking about the host of the show not the rocky mountain employee

    • @MikeesTexas
      @MikeesTexas Рік тому +2

      Dan has been known to kill trail features from time to time

  • @southpawlibranine3511
    @southpawlibranine3511 Рік тому +2

    How bout you stop over charging for your bikes and god sakes change the paint. Rocky mountain has some of the worst paint jobs and boring looking bikes

    • @jennifergallant543
      @jennifergallant543 Рік тому

      Paint chips so easy on there bikes too crazy!!!

    • @mjor6406
      @mjor6406 10 місяців тому +1

      Do you buy a sports car based on interior materials and paint and not on handling and feel?