16:02 thank you FZ for concisely summarizing the back&forth my own family is struggling with, in terms of how I grew up regarding Israel, and how my adult children view the region.
Excellent, thanks to you both! Going to get Fareed’s book tomorrow. I couldn’t find anything said in this interview that I could disagree with. Especially the part about the need to support Ukraine to the fullest extent. IMO the need to do this is so obvious it boggles the mind to think that there is any contrary view.
There are legitimate contrary views to our proxy war with Russia. Ukraine was not a member of NATO, therefore US was not obligated to support it's defense. They were not a democracy and I'm not even certain they were an ally of the US, except for the allegiance that could be bought in form of aid packages. Ukraine cannot defeat Russia in a war of attrition, the best hope is for a negotiated peace, but when? Who benefits the most from a long, drawn-out war? It's not the Russian or Ukrainian people for certain, its the Western military industrial complex and Putin. Its despicable for the US to fund and supply any war where the casualties are men and women of other countries. It must be said-Putin is a dictator and entirely to blame for unprovoked war costing so much damage and loss of life, but here we are again in state of perpetual war or proxy war. So sad.
@@losttribe9107 Every Trump immigration policy was to eliminate or reduce legal immigration at the border and for those applying for visa's, he was more concerned with destroying the asylum process then securing the border. That is an easily proven fact.
Stellar Fareed? At Walmart the other day, a pack of Kool-Aid powder was 36c up from 30c . in April 2024. I'm on a fixed income except for measly yearly COLAs
Reformation of the Asylum Immigration policy is definitely worth looking into. If Republicans are worried about getting credit, then give it to them. Adversarial posturing is unimportant. President Biden should overhaul the policy.
Great quote from the interview: "There is an identity revolution, the role of women and minorities, and there's a lot of people who feel like this is a lot of disruption... and are willing to hear politicians say, "I'm going to take you back to before this was so crazy." This epitomizes my issue with both Republican and Democratic platforms- neither is progressive. They are both selling us nostalgia, for the Reagan and Clinton administrations respectively. This explains why neither party has a policy or platform that realistically handles our 21st Century problems- voters are motivated by a desire to return to the 20th century rather than realistic solutions.
So on the subject of Ukraine Zakaria observes that we are holding Ukraine back and says "we have to decide if we want to win or not". On the subject of Israel in Gaza he laments the fact that Biden is doing an inadequate job of holding Israel back. 😂
I like and respect Fareed. That being said, can you say ‘nuclear weapons’; Putin has everything to lose if he’s not successful and I am worried. It is a tough decision. You can’t play this like the board game Risk.
I was surprised by Fareed's militaristic ideas on Ukraine. As you point you, Russia is a nuclear superpower. Negotiation and diplomacy should be prime options to end that war. Fareed's point that the only acceptable outcome is winning is simplistic.
The changes both technical and cultural (they intertwine often) were discussed, written about and reported on in the media for decades. Comparisons to revolutionary times, especially the 19 century industrial ‘revolution’ were consistently referenced as helpful guides. Americans, en mass, tune out, but then tuned in to entertainment, quest for wealth and nearly obscene consumer indulgence while giving little thought and even less material support to the education of their children or themselves. In a country that requires significant education to support a thriving democracy, a legal system and the rationale favouring civic responsibility; any expectation of success would have been delusional. The average American doesn’t even know, let alone honour the fact that there are many forms of capitalism and that the one form they’ve allowed to thrive is most likely to favour the minority of rich and least likely to be sustainable or support their democracy. It was indeed predictable for those paying attention. Did the average American actually think legal status of women and minorities weren’t going to be an issue? That religious zealots constantly bumping heads with the scientific community wasn’t going to cause serious conflict going forward? That the disparity between rich and poor wasn’t going to matter? That an aging population not having access to health care would be their number one issue? That the connectivity of communications throughout the planet would inevitably lead to some form of globalism? One could make the case that it’s surprising America has got this far avoiding complete calamity.
Love fareed but do disagree on intel being “behind” nvidia. The government is interested in physical fabrication not chip design. All of the major players in cutting edge semi design are in the US. Intel has bought 4-5 of the high numerical aperture EUV lithography machines, they have production from ASML locked up through the end of the year. And gelsinger is a good fit, an engineer. I’m not saying intel will succeed but even as someone who isn’t a fan of government picking winners, intel is too important strategically.
Margaret Hoover represents our donor owned plutocracy quite well. Maybe her Grandfather is proud of her acquiescence to the plutocratic donor owners of our governments, our media, our total economies, and our whole society. He would be happy with his granddaughter's complicit servitude to our exploitative profiteering donor owners. He would be esp. proud of her promotion of our genocidal Healthcare profiteers. Her complicit cooperation and kowtowing to the super-rich and corporate donor owners is quite impressive indeed. Just being proud of the disastrous regime of the 31st President of the USA and his name demonstrates her own amoral existence.
15:30 “..where we figure out how to be the coalition leader rather than the hegemony”. True words but fat chance coz the US is never going to shed its hegemonistic geopolitics unless it is dethroned as the world’s most powerful country.
Not all 'progress' is good., not all "backlash" is bad. Both the Democratic and Republican parties have changed. Not everyone is benefitting from the contemporary economy. Why do so many prosperous and privileged intellectuals fail to get this? Great inequality is a recipe is a social upheaval.
Never go back. AND NOT to the Trump era. This will be death to everything we have worked for. All improvements society has made. Many don’t understand the past. Americans ignore the past. We must not ever have a STRONG MAN in America.
Segregation isn't racism, but it springs from the same well of backwards thinking. People criticize this country all the time as we have the freedom to do so. Maybe don't tear down the society's that are trying to do the right thing and are failing, and criticize the society's who never even attempted.
Fareed omits far too many variables of consequences on each subject, President Joe Biden and administrators must evaluate a multitude for each opinion he espoused, for example the retaliatory nuclear potential from Putin, the insufficient labor market without immigrants, the consequences of Israel being blown too bits having been denied American weaponry! Seriously Factual, Biden and Harris, America's bright future is prominent!!
Good points here. I'm disappointed with Fareed's militarism on Ukraine. So we should escalate the war against a nuclear superpower? Whatever happened to the ideas of diplomacy and negotiation? Maybe we should try to end this war that has caused so much suffering--and hope for more peace-oriented leaders to emerge in the future.
The idea that the GOP will wholesale step back from it's commitments around the world is both ignorant and calculated by Fareed here. The GOP position is not to ignore or foreign policy obligations but to not ignore our domestic policy obligations. If the issue is money, this new belief in MMT allows for printing money as needed against future potential growth. This is wrong in my opinion and for the reasons we are experiencing right now, inflation and suppression of innovation through capital allocation. The GOP will right the economic ship and we will grow again.
No so far 1968 is way more intense and especially with the amount of people in the streets and at lease a million protesting at the white house in 1968. But we can easily get there if people get off their couch and get involved but peacefully ofcourse and organized strategic purpose ignoring the hate n division and mobilizing in a united front.
If the USA, Russia and China would stop selling weapons to the Middle East, it might just help. How about spending 2% of our gdp for help to starving children around the world?
You need to improve your civil police. You need to pick the better police and civilians are getting fed up because they don’t get treated right and the ones those don’t get treated right if they’re smart, they can be very damaging.
Why didn't Margaret Hoover aske Fareed Zakaria about his plagiarism problem? Stealing someone else's ideas, opinions and/or words without citation nor attribution is antithetical to good journalism, let alone good character. And Fareed Zakaria calling it the "Muslim Ban" betrays lazy group think. There are nearly 0 Muslims from North Korea, Venezuela, etc but those were failing states who could not be trusted for travel. AND Muslims from England and Fareed's home country of India had few if any impediments to travelling to the United States.
Fareed, is wrong about the economy. The numbers may say things are good and getting better. When I go to the grocery store or even McDonalds a quarter pounder meal is $20.00!!!
Such a hypocrite! Another Sunak, Braveman... They and their families are special and therefore deserve entry to other countries., very Modi-like). The old system is not being gamed! With the internet available worldwide (ww), and the fact that America has waged war ww, people see/feel that they will have a chance in a country that is not war torn, so they take the chance. He is an immigrant himself, does he not realize that people don't want to leave their homeland?
Yeah such a mess under Trump. 1.4% inflation. First President in 39 years not to get us involved in yet another foreign war. Middle East Peace Accords. Putin at Bay. Affordable home mortgage rates. $2 Gas. How did we ever survive ? lol 😂
His anti asylum argument is problematic. If people are lying to get asylum, that's an issue, but if we are rejecting people's claims for asylum under the assumption that asylum seekers are liars, that is a much worse problem. Has he backed up this claim with evidence somewhere else?
No he's full of shit. He understands the problem but ignores how Trumps policies made it worse in order to make the border. Trump had the luxury to use covid and title 42 as an excuse to keep the courts from reversing his hardline policies that were in violation of the law. A Biden policies to try and close the border will never hold up in court without congress changing the law.
Predictably great episode when you put these two intelligent and serious people together.
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Lovely Zaqaria! ❤Thank you.....🎉
16:02 thank you FZ for concisely summarizing the back&forth my own family is struggling with, in terms of how I grew up regarding Israel, and how my adult children view the region.
Margaret asks great questions. Love to see the full version
Washington Week, Firing Line, GPS; essential viewing.
Excellent, thanks to you both! Going to get Fareed’s book tomorrow. I couldn’t find anything said in this interview that I could disagree with. Especially the part about the need to support Ukraine to the fullest extent. IMO the need to do this is so obvious it boggles the mind to think that there is any contrary view.
There are legitimate contrary views to our proxy war with Russia. Ukraine was not a member of NATO, therefore US was not obligated to support it's defense. They were not a democracy and I'm not even certain they were an ally of the US, except for the allegiance that could be bought in form of aid packages. Ukraine cannot defeat Russia in a war of attrition, the best hope is for a negotiated peace, but when? Who benefits the most from a long, drawn-out war? It's not the Russian or Ukrainian people for certain, its the Western military industrial complex and Putin. Its despicable for the US to fund and supply any war where the casualties are men and women of other countries. It must be said-Putin is a dictator and entirely to blame for unprovoked war costing so much damage and loss of life, but here we are again in state of perpetual war or proxy war. So sad.
That archive from the original PBS files is a reminder of the classic conversation by the legendary Buckley.
Great guest.
Great episode. Fareed is a smart man.
Indeed.
such a great show and such an intelligent conversation!
Oh its intelligent when Its on cnn, but not when a republican says it for 15 years straight.
Fareed Zakaria's talent and expertise is wasted at CNN
anybody can write a book and make millions - gotta love this world and its priorities
My favorite journalists..
Fix the asylum issue, dont eliminate it. Trump didnt want immigration, Biden shouldn't follow that policy, just fix it.
Trump had nothing against legal immigration. My wife became a US citizen during the Trump years.
@@losttribe9107 Every Trump immigration policy was to eliminate or reduce legal immigration at the border and for those applying for visa's, he was more concerned with destroying the asylum process then securing the border. That is an easily proven fact.
Stellar Fareed? At Walmart the other day, a pack of Kool-Aid powder was 36c up from 30c . in April 2024. I'm on a fixed income except for measly yearly COLAs
real leadership you hear from Rep. Zakaria
My God he's like half right and half clueless.
Fareed Zakaria the great debater.
Especially in front of large masses.
Margaret, calling it a "Trump policy" doesn't get anyone on the left more eager to support sensible change.
Idk policy either makes sense or it doesn’t. Seems my former party is much more tied to “did my side come up with this?” Than the democrats.
Reformation of the Asylum Immigration policy is definitely worth looking into. If Republicans are worried about getting credit, then give it to them. Adversarial posturing is unimportant. President Biden should overhaul the policy.
Maybe they should collectively grow up ?
Maybe Trump came up with the right policy? Hmm.
I think that’s immature. If it’s right, it’s right. Not everyone is as polarized as the internet makes it seem.
Good points Fareed!
I knew Trump was right too.
C'mon Fareed, Intel has heretofore been paying the price for letting MBAs make the big decisions.
Great quote from the interview:
"There is an identity revolution, the role of women and minorities, and there's a lot of people who feel like this is a lot of disruption... and are willing to hear politicians say, "I'm going to take you back to before this was so crazy."
This epitomizes my issue with both Republican and Democratic platforms- neither is progressive. They are both selling us nostalgia, for the Reagan and Clinton administrations respectively.
This explains why neither party has a policy or platform that realistically handles our 21st Century problems- voters are motivated by a desire to return to the 20th century rather than realistic solutions.
Progress is fine so long as it excludes progress in the power and scope of government.
Another outstanding program
People are horrible . ...
World need more good samaritans spirits ❤
Farmed needs to go independent and unleash his final level. His moderate liberalism is no longer valued in MSM
Another democrat pro war journalist PBS
So on the subject of Ukraine Zakaria observes that we are holding Ukraine back and says "we have to decide if we want to win or not".
On the subject of Israel in Gaza he laments the fact that Biden is doing an inadequate job of holding Israel back. 😂
The Iran analogy is deranged.
Clipping the “bloodbath” line from Trump without the full context let me know immediately how biased this “journalist” is. Shameful
I like and respect Fareed. That being said, can you say ‘nuclear weapons’; Putin has everything to lose if he’s not successful and I am worried. It is a tough decision. You can’t play this like the board game Risk.
I was surprised by Fareed's militaristic ideas on Ukraine. As you point you, Russia is a nuclear superpower. Negotiation and diplomacy should be prime options to end that war. Fareed's point that the only acceptable outcome is winning is simplistic.
Instead of following the law and have Congress act, the president should make up any law they want.
In the opening sequence, why are you playing that Trump quote?! Firing Line knows that out of context it gains different meaning. Dissappointing.
The changes both technical and cultural (they intertwine often) were discussed, written about and reported on in the media for decades. Comparisons to revolutionary times, especially the 19 century industrial ‘revolution’ were consistently referenced as helpful guides. Americans, en mass, tune out, but then tuned in to entertainment, quest for wealth and nearly obscene consumer indulgence while giving little thought and even less material support to the education of their children or themselves. In a country that requires significant education to support a thriving democracy, a legal system and the rationale favouring civic responsibility; any expectation of success would have been delusional. The average American doesn’t even know, let alone honour the fact that there are many forms of capitalism and that the one form they’ve allowed to thrive is most likely to favour the minority of rich and least likely to be sustainable or support their democracy. It was indeed predictable for those paying attention. Did the average American actually think legal status of women and minorities weren’t going to be an issue? That religious zealots constantly bumping heads with the scientific community wasn’t going to cause serious conflict going forward? That the disparity between rich and poor wasn’t going to matter? That an aging population not having access to health care would be their number one issue? That the connectivity of communications throughout the planet would inevitably lead to some form of globalism? One could make the case that it’s surprising America has got this far avoiding complete calamity.
When the government spends over 50% of the National income then the free market doesn’t really exist does it?
How can there be many forms of the free market? It’s either free or it isn’t.
First he says Israel should be forced by Biden to lose, then he says Ukraine cant lose. Makes no sense
Wasn’t this guy on the final Firing Line episode? Henry didn’t seem too pleased about it.
Free Free Palestine।
Love fareed but do disagree on intel being “behind” nvidia. The government is interested in physical fabrication not chip design. All of the major players in cutting edge semi design are in the US. Intel has bought 4-5 of the high numerical aperture EUV lithography machines, they have production from ASML locked up through the end of the year. And gelsinger is a good fit, an engineer. I’m not saying intel will succeed but even as someone who isn’t a fan of government picking winners, intel is too important strategically.
Great comment and very accurate. Fareed is incorrect.
Interesting point. I hope to come to comment section for replies like these.
Margaret Hoover represents our donor owned plutocracy quite well. Maybe her Grandfather is proud of her acquiescence to the plutocratic donor owners of our governments, our media, our total economies, and our whole society. He would be happy with his granddaughter's complicit servitude to our exploitative profiteering donor owners. He would be esp. proud of her promotion of our genocidal Healthcare profiteers. Her complicit cooperation and kowtowing to the super-rich and corporate donor owners is quite impressive indeed. Just being proud of the disastrous regime of the 31st President of the USA and his name demonstrates her own amoral existence.
15:30 “..where we figure out how to be the coalition leader rather than the hegemony”. True words but fat chance coz the US is never going to shed its hegemonistic geopolitics unless it is dethroned as the world’s most powerful country.
You are a doctor, not a politician stick to your side doctor recovering the wrong side of your profession Dr. Gupta I think I got that right
Not all 'progress' is good., not all "backlash" is bad. Both the Democratic and Republican parties have changed. Not everyone is benefitting from the contemporary economy. Why do so many prosperous and privileged intellectuals fail to get this? Great inequality is a recipe is a social upheaval.
Some very good points on immigration from Fareed. I'm not an American.
Never go back. AND NOT to the Trump era. This will be death to everything we have worked for. All improvements society has made.
Many don’t understand the past. Americans ignore the past. We must not ever have a STRONG MAN in America.
Wtf are you talking about?
Hmm - your saying your better off now than the Trump years pre-Covid. Me thinks that is a stretch - what kind of mental gymnastics are you using?
Antizionism is not Antisemitism. You should be able to criticise America and Israel.
Segregation isn't racism, but it springs from the same well of backwards thinking. People criticize this country all the time as we have the freedom to do so.
Maybe don't tear down the society's that are trying to do the right thing and are failing, and criticize the society's who never even attempted.
@@Bibbo8844hdbks yes it is.
Fareed omits far too many variables of consequences on each subject, President Joe Biden and administrators must evaluate a multitude for each opinion he espoused, for example the retaliatory nuclear potential from Putin, the insufficient labor market without immigrants, the consequences of Israel being blown too bits having been denied American weaponry! Seriously Factual, Biden and Harris, America's bright future is prominent!!
“Insufficient labor market” is hilarious. Importing low and illegal human capital in order to fix an imaginary labor shortage.
Good points here. I'm disappointed with Fareed's militarism on Ukraine. So we should escalate the war against a nuclear superpower? Whatever happened to the ideas of diplomacy and negotiation? Maybe we should try to end this war that has caused so much suffering--and hope for more peace-oriented leaders to emerge in the future.
The idea that the GOP will wholesale step back from it's commitments around the world is both ignorant and calculated by Fareed here. The GOP position is not to ignore or foreign policy obligations but to not ignore our domestic policy obligations. If the issue is money, this new belief in MMT allows for printing money as needed against future potential growth. This is wrong in my opinion and for the reasons we are experiencing right now, inflation and suppression of innovation through capital allocation. The GOP will right the economic ship and we will grow again.
We’re deep in the fourth turning
No so far 1968 is way more intense and especially with the amount of people in the streets and at lease a million protesting at the white house in 1968. But we can easily get there if people get off their couch and get involved but peacefully ofcourse and organized strategic purpose ignoring the hate n division and mobilizing in a united front.
What a limited point of view. I wanted to buy your book. Not now.
World peace. Trump 2024.
Intel lost out to TSMC.. who was subsidized by the Taiwan government was it not?
If the USA, Russia and China would stop selling weapons to the Middle East, it might just help. How about spending 2% of our gdp for help to starving children around the world?
It won’t happen, because the rich one percent ( the donors) dictates the decisions of our elected leaders.
You need to improve your civil police. You need to pick the better police and civilians are getting fed up because they don’t get treated right and the ones those don’t get treated right if they’re smart, they can be very damaging.
This isn't journalism: it's propoganda. Buckley is spinning in his grave :(
Why you people are scared to apply natural law?
Why didn't Margaret Hoover aske Fareed Zakaria about his plagiarism problem?
Stealing someone else's ideas, opinions and/or words without citation nor attribution is antithetical to good journalism, let alone good character.
And Fareed Zakaria calling it the "Muslim Ban" betrays lazy group think.
There are nearly 0 Muslims from North Korea, Venezuela, etc but those were failing states who could not be trusted for travel.
AND Muslims from England and Fareed's home country of India had few if any impediments to travelling to the United States.
Fareed, is wrong about the economy. The numbers may say things are good and getting better. When I go to the grocery store or even McDonalds a quarter pounder meal is $20.00!!!
its not about antisemitism
what were people saying back then about South Africa?
Such a hypocrite! Another Sunak, Braveman... They and their families are special and therefore deserve entry to other countries., very Modi-like). The old system is not being gamed! With the internet available worldwide (ww), and the fact that America has waged war ww, people see/feel that they will have a chance in a country that is not war torn, so they take the chance. He is an immigrant himself, does he not realize that people don't want to leave their homeland?
Not buying it! Any and all and especially the book!
Is Fareed an alien or shape shifter? Cant tell
Idk , in any event he’s one of those people who thinks he knows what’s best for others.
Wow this guy is so delusional
How so?
He is member of Epstein services.
Why do you say?
How can she slap?!
He is a loyal member of the swamp.
Also Mitch McConnell thought that the system could stand up to Trump... Then Trump has made the mess we are in!
Yeah such a mess under Trump. 1.4% inflation. First President in 39 years not to get us involved in yet another foreign war. Middle East Peace Accords. Putin at Bay. Affordable home mortgage rates. $2 Gas. How did we ever survive ? lol 😂
No the dementia vegetable Biden created this mess. Wtf is wrong with you. Stop lying.
Didnt learn a thing. The same old same old. Blah blah. Goodnye
His anti asylum argument is problematic. If people are lying to get asylum, that's an issue, but if we are rejecting people's claims for asylum under the assumption that asylum seekers are liars, that is a much worse problem.
Has he backed up this claim with evidence somewhere else?
No he's full of shit. He understands the problem but ignores how Trumps policies made it worse in order to make the border. Trump had the luxury to use covid and title 42 as an excuse to keep the courts from reversing his hardline policies that were in violation of the law. A Biden policies to try and close the border will never hold up in court without congress changing the law.
He talk a load of Bangalore shit
Why does this reporter speak in such an odd way ? Takes away from the content