What's really happening with the Miami Heat: Martin, DeRozan, more | Five on the Floor
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- There have been a lot of reports and a lot of frustration, as the MIami Heat haven't done much to make themselves contenders this offseason so far. Ethan Skolnick presents all the latest information in context, about Caleb Martin, Haywood Highsmith, DeMar DeRozan, Donovan Mitchell and more.
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Martin came off the Eastern finals run and backed it up with nothing.. what’s not to understand by his people. I don’t understand why the past 2 yrs. We have upcoming free agents and not trying to move them for something? 3 summers of the Heat are “interested” in such player, which by the way means not getting! Just go young and see what happens. The run it back is old and it feels like we will be running another injury ridden season! Please we can’t do this again next summer..
Facts how can Caleb Martin get a raise after a bad season
@MiamiHeatZone True Martin doesn't deserve 12 million a season. But Highsmith does deserve, 7 million. Pat make the deal.
What’s frustrating about this entire thing is both Miami & Boston were 1 move away from a championship. Boston made their move, we didn’t. They won a championship & now we are treading water. That’s a strange place to be when you made 2 NBA Finals in 4 years
Boston knew when to move on from their weakness. Pat and Spo still believe Herro is the next Booker
Heat never had a shot in those finals...1 piece away? Maybe, but a huge piece...Boston made many changes to the Roster
@@jimmyjay689 if ur in the Finals … ur a piece away. And they might’ve been able to win 2020. They lost Dragic, Bam & Jimmy’s ankle in game 1; & still got it to 6. Nobody outside Miami fans knew what Bam was. & Dragic led the team in scoring. But the bottom line is they were a piece away. They beat an overloaded Boston team twice. Because they had the 1 thing Boston didn’t; mental edge. But Miami really needed Dame & Dame did all he could but Cronin was salty & gave Boston their piece in Holiday instead. Soon as that went down I called Boston winning the Chip. Kinda sickening
They don't Regret the Tyler contract??? Yea Right 😂 Duncan also. Kelly Oubre making $8 million, Compared to $30 and $18 million..,.. Ps Demar can score, without Gimmicks.... Against Grown Man Defense, unlike Tyler
Duncan’s contract was totally worth it. Now Tyler’s contract; I agree he was overpaid & assessed too high. They should have paid him like a 6 man of the year & kept him at that position
Anyway we can get the books I would take it
Duncan earn his money🎉 Tyler keep getting hurt
@@baruchgoldberg6280 Duncan's contract was absolutely not worth it he was basically benched for two years and still can't defend a lick.
@@rockinon011 that’s not true. Duncan had a really great year but was injured in the playoffs.. he still went out there. He very much had a vet presence to him all year tho
The Heat don’t regret the Tyler contract says a lot about the idiocy of this bum front office. Tyler DPOY bonus counting against the cap is a ridiculous concept.
Alex nailed it at the end 👌🏼
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I am doing DeMar because when Jimmy is out he can do his thing.
This is weird...you bring up Michell after he's under contract but when he was available and said Miami, what did Riley do? Kyrie - see if it lasts? It's already had successful returns. This ethan guy is definitely a stan.
I loved the Terry trade. It made a lot of sense. You got a younger pg that could help put points on the board and pressure on the rim. Things that K-Lo wasn't giving. Now, I wasn't too excited about adding a 1st rd to it, but I understood we had to sweeten the pot a bit. But T-Ro is a great fit on this team and in the starting lineup with T.Herro, Jimmy, Niko,and Bam.
A good 7th seed😂
@@donjohnson3195 well as is we were 10 games above .500 and 3 games out of 3 seed last year even with all the injuries we had last year. So say if we didn't have so many injuries, would we have been a top 4 seed?
C'mon with the Heat Publicist/Lawyer Shit bro smh... You have an Excuse for Everything they do Ps They've been 1 or 2 moves away, the Entire Jimmy Era... They've been good/lucky... But not a Real Championship Team (Denver went through them, Like a Hot Knife through Butter) And the Bubble isn't Real NBA PLAYOFF BASKETBALL
Exactly.
They're playing connect 4 while the rest of the league plays chess. Jimmy and Spo have saved that FO's reputation because honestly they should be getting run out of town right now for their mismanagement.
We are avoiding the rolling train of having to trade jimmy no one is willing to discuss this
They're trying not to step on his toes because of all he's done and almost done and trying not to lose him for nothing. I agree with you but it's a tough spot, and the fans don't care cause it's all heat front office behavior that is getting old fast.
Greg keeps mentioning the Kyle Lowry/Rozier trade as though we would have savings of Rozier salary per year plus the approx 7 million to use under the second apron. That’s a wrong understanding, Rozier salary is a place holder for them to have that salary over the first apron.
The Heat overvaluing a moment with players is what's always put this team in bad spots. Caleb had a moment and has been borderline average beyond that
He played like crap last year
Run it back year 6 with Jimmy Butler. Hey Kyle Lowry is a free agent 🤷♂️
Lowery and martin stink
Cba need to change incentives counting against the cap!😡 It should only count IF the player ACTUALLY performs and gets it! Cmon!!
I like our great back court and the extra new center for bam,killer
At this point, bring in Bill Zito. Im sure he'll do a much a better job with asset management than whatever the f we have now
Highsmith is good on D and can shoot sometimes but he can’t do anything else.. when he tries to do more he turns the ball over….
We already picked a direction. We are not extending Jimmy and we are keeping the young pieces we have. I can see us trading Herro and. A First for a true starting point guard. The only thing thats going to hurt is loosing Jimmy for nothing but at least we will have the cap space necessary to bring in a player that fits Bams timeline.
This is crazy...so stars have to accept unrealistic salaries - or is it RIley entering conversations lowerballing players and then playing victim like - i tried, bulls wouldnt work with us and neither would Demar....the common failure of these superstars favoring Miami and the deal not being made is RILEY.
Alec burk and terry ,good machine
Bradley deal is not worth it
As the days go on, I’m finding myself wanting them to go into rebuild more and more. I think I definitely lean that way now, hearing that they don’t view themselves as having a chance to win this year.
They need to decide what the core is going forward. Is it Bam? Is it all these 19-22 year olds that have now that look really promising?
If it’s the young guys, you need to trade Bam. If it’s Bam you need to go get some high quality players that are on his timeline.
The only way they have a chance is to be delusional enough to believe they have a chance, which they are not.
Highsmith is mediocre bye 😅😅
Big thing l take they should have kept Lowry l know bunch of people didn't want to keep him but would be in a better place , money wouldn't given up a pick, now you got to wonder about Duncan and Rosier health issues, Tyler after getting paid needs to be coached if they tell him to come off the bench you come off the bench, let's start doing what needs to be done to win quit stroking egos, Pat called Jimmy out
We need to stop with these bandaids. None of the players being rumored are good enough to make a significant difference or a championship team. Let all these characters walk. Haywood and Caleb are just dudes. All the free agents makes zero sense. Jimmy Butler is not a number 1 on a championship team. This is the definition of insanity. We keep doing the same crap and expecting a different outcome. Rip the bandaid off. Say bye to him and start fresh with our young guys and Bam. Except trade Tyler now. He stinks.
Thank you. I don't know why they are so scared of trading Jimmy right NOW when he still has some value. Their so-called loyalty to players is going to hurt this franchise for years to come. They keep giving big contracts to players they should let walk.
They don’t know how to build a championship team and the
Front office is gutless
@markc1839 They know how to do it. Are they willing to do what is necessary. The obvious reason they don't want to do it is they believe that they will lose some season ticket holders. The irony is that the "we don't want to rebuild" attitude will have the same effect.
@ebby7878 it's pretty infuriating. They can replenish their asset pool of first round picks if they move Jimmy. Not having a first round pick in 2025 and 2027 is gonna bite us in the arse.
@dennislopez1272 Agreed. I understand those are quality drafts. Our man would be closer to 38 then 😊.
A healthy team should make a huge difference- & we have to wait for Jaime Jacquez, Kel’el Ware, & Jovic to fully develop & hope it happens fast.
No, many of us did not like the Terry Rozier trade especially giving up a 1st round pick. He is not a traditional point guard. He is a scoring guard/combo guard. Also, he is a weird fit with Tyler Herro. Interesting now that that contract is hurting us with the new CBA.
Exactly! Many of us said “not another small guard! Trade for size.” & yup we were right
While he's trying to Spin it, like Everybody was Excited about it
Most fans were excited just to see the team replace Lowry. We still don’t know how good he can be with an engaged jimmy butler.
The heat better off running it back and try making it to the play-in … it’s pointless at this point, if your not building a team to win a championship then it’s no point
Rozier trade keeps killing us…. Would rather have paid Martin and keep our 1st round pick next year than have Rozier…. Rozier is good once per week..
why everyone think Caleb mistook his market as opposed to he wanted to leave for a contender? We keep trying to spin this as a mistake when it looks quite deliberate. He and his agent seems to have bid on themselves - he will have a great year. There is a clear nepotism with Heat org - Herro and Duncan got paid...this guy who does more get 65mil?!? Stop saying he clearly wanted to come back. Given a chance with a team where they constantly upgrade and get stars and have stars and have a better chance at a chip, all those facts and you all keep saying it was a mistake?! weird take. why would he sign for 7 million when Riley holding off on JButler's contract and JButler might have told Caleb since the heat wouldn't pay him now, he won't play for them and will walk away. Tyler earned his contract? shooting at time 25% from the field (not just from 3)...DRobinson earned previous years of contract...stop being RIley stans.
Caleb's signing with the 76ers🫣
Morey wasted so much money 😂😂😂😂😂😂
For way less money???
A healthy Rozier will average 18pts… it’s not good enough
Agreed 💯
He can be just as good as Goran was at his best in Miami that's good enough if the roster makes sense
Its good enough if he shoots 40% from 3pt...he is a 37% career 3pt shooter tho
Update
Martin signed with Philly
Another game of chicken the Heat lost
If Heat dont make a trade for another AllStar then we might as well move Jimmy
Wtf are we even doing???
Same shit as last year
No gameplan for off-season
Pat is losing his touch
Eathan said the Heat dont believe the Heat are contenders even if jimmy plays his ass off.
Wouldn't that be a reason to work a trade for him. Let jimmy go somewhere where he can win one.
And let's at least get something for him.
Trade the man we still need a #1 guybeith jimmy
A healthy Rozier should make a big difference on this team.
TRADE HERRO,and get DeRosen
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Ethan is always suckin up to the front office. I agree with Alex too often they miss out on Elite talent because they want deals at there price they want moves at a bargain and we always miss out in the end
What elite talent?
They missed out on Kyrie & Beal… & it was during a time Kyrie was extremely flakey.
Oh & they missed out on Damian Lillard cuz Joe Cronin is salty & bitter that Dame ONLY wanted to come here
Martin overplayed his hand...must have learned it from the Heat
Played like crap last year,could not count on him without jimmy!!!!!!Martin stunk
I am happy he left another Lowery 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Skinny dude no good
I am so tired of hearing “Oh the Heat need luck this offseason hoping someone becomes available and wants to go to Miami” “oh the Heat don’t have the cap space or assets to make it work” I am so tired of the excuses past 2-3 years in the offseason we sit even after a finals run and do virtually nothing while every top team in the east improves because of these excuses. Just pick a direction either go all in or break it down the fan base is exhausted by the mediocrity and head scratching moves.
If somehow derozen signs for that five mill just sign highsmith for the min what others team are offering more and if not bye
Being in the 7 th spot os the play in game again jist brwqk up 5his team qnd put the players around bam jommy not the same guy and herro does nothing
Y’all make it seem like we have a chance at these stars. Then back off and get mad at the fans when it doesn’t happen. It’s y’all fault and always sucking up to the front office. They have been horrible in FA for years!! We are screwed! Jimmy will be gone and this team will go back to being irrelevant. Enjoy the Bam/Herro build. And Herro is terrible, but y’all take up for him like he’s a top 25 player!
Nothing is happening
I’m tired of being a broke boy ☹️
Once again tge Rozier trade was a great trade if the idea was to move Herro this summer. It was a cheaper and a better fit. Stop your nonsense. If Herro had a market we could have keep both highsmith and Caleb and give Derozan a sweeter deal. Herro is protected at highest level. This is not the first time. Heat did the same thing with Tyler johnson. Somebody upstairs is not playing fair game.
Martin stinks,he played like crap when jimmy was gone.Sixers gonna have an old man,martin,and joel who goes out alot .The sixers 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂,as heat excellerate
Your excuses for the Heat franchise are lame. We seat here watching crltics, knicks,Pacers, Sixers just to say the East making moves while you seat there tellings us it is hard. What is Hard is the fact nobody wants Robinson and Herro. If there contract is so good where is the interest. We understand what is going on here. We are not stupid. The difference with Barrett and Herro was new york cut their losses and NBA team wanted Barrett. Stop making excuses for the Heat. As they made the move for Rozier thinking Herro had a market this summer.That is me being naives. The truth somebody higher up with the Heat is in love with Herro and it is not about basketball.
If the Heat would have gotten Kyrie they would have never beaten the Celtics; that guy has a full mental breakdown any time he plays in Boston
Trade jimmy ,start over