From Sketchup Design to Finished Furniture
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- I shared the sketchup design process for this large display shelving unit in a previous video: • Creating Accurate Buil... . Now at last it is all built!
In this video I will show you the finished details of construction, a montage of the whole process of design, manufacture and installation, and an honest insight into some mistakes we made along the way!
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Inciteful and Honest, started watching your sketch up vids and saw this, glad to hear the comment that there is always a way round a problem, nice to hear
Thanks for watching 👍
I wish to have that kind of teacher. Who understand, how it's work, who don't be adriad of admiting that he was wrong. Really good job!
love your honesty Alistair, not many people would own up to that on youtube, it just goes to show that you are human after all, and again great insight to how you make your custom fitted furniture start to finish. top work mate........
kevin benstock thanks for the comment and encouragement!
Being professional is not so much about never making mistakes but how you handle it when mistakes occur. The remedial work here was very cleverly done.
Thanks for commenting
Great looking unit and nice work...
paultay23 thanks!
Hi Alastair may I say revealing your techniques and mistakes AND pricing is truly brilliant, I’ve been making and installing all sorts a cabinets and weird and wonderful things over the years and I’ve learned a lot just buy watching you………may I say thank you very much……..every day is a school day. Kind regards Shane from Wow Interiors Bedford
Thanks for commenting Shane!
Great video and build, looking forward to going threw your back catalogue and future videos , I'm 25 years as a site joiner just opened a workshop and getting into these sorts of builds , very useful content for me . Thanks
Glad it’s helpful thanks for commenting!
My new channel to binge watch ha! Found you from measuring up podcast! Subbed! Great work and thanks for sharing everything. Even the mistakes, so refreshing to see this
Chris Moxon big thanks to Peter Millard for a bit of a flurry of interest in my channel lately 👍
Im impressed Alister .
Tomasz Twardzik thanks
One thing i can tell you is, in 35 years of experience doing this work, i´m always learning something new, Ther´s no work equal to another one. So, i realize that mistakes makes part of my work, its a constant also a chelange :) your work is extremly well done and the final result is awesome. Congrats.
Wood Be thanks for your comments and interest in our work! Always learning is a sign of a good craftsman.
Congratulations on superb first quality work, and for sharing your mistakes and how you corrected them, :].
Thanks Glen
hah..fantastic solution alistair...i probably would have taken 5mm off top and bottom and run the extra down over the plynth and just kept mum...he he
great vid as usual...cheers,Ty from s.oz
Looks great
Thank you
Yet again another brilliant video. A software glitch not really your mistake although you could say measure twice cut once, but you got over the issues. We all make mistakes and hopefully we learn from them. You are right, if other people shared their mistakes we could all learn from them and it would help us all. Keep up the good work and I look forward to the next freebird interiors video.
Hi Alistair
Loving the highlighted mistakes and solving.
I too buy in pre made doors 🚪
It’s the way fwd - 🤗👌🏼
Gary Coulson I’ve been buying in vinyl wrapped wardrobe doors for a while, but not ones for painting until now. Do you get them custom cnc’d like this too for painting?
Freebird Interiors
no - I make my own for painting... usually Shaker.
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I'd categorise that as an adjustment rather than an error. But it does pay to sit back and think about a workaround rather than automatically thinking re-doing it is the only option. the finished product looks great. Also with that design of overlapping door - you could actually add strip LEDs and they would be defused nicely :-)
Another great vid, looks a really nice job 👍, love to hear how other people get over their mistakes just in case I ever make one 😜
Ha, yeah ok then! 😆 I remember an experienced carpenter saying to me early on ‘it’s not about never making mistakes, it’s knowing how to fix them’. I get less stressed than I used to (although these doors tested me on that!!) because everything’s fixable one way or another.
Nice one Alastair 👍 So no mistake with the position of the struts on the drop-down door then? 🤔😆 BTW I always use 2 struts with those doors - I tried using just use the one it acted like a pivot and the weight of the door levered the hinges out... 😱😬
Peter Millard I was waiting for a comment on that! I forgot it when I made the video then noticed it again when stitching the photos together. We filled and resprayed the holes. I see what. You mean about the lever effect, yeah 2 stays are best, especially for a wide flap.
Eagle eye Peter
Hi Alistair, looks awesome! Thanks for sharing, We all make mistakes. We are human, I am working on a media unit with adjustable shelves, messed my measurements up and ended up cutting 50 shelves 20mm too short.
50 shelves!! Oh no. No way to make it work I suppose?
Turned out Awesome !!!
You got very lucky with that one mate . Very intuitive well done . I did notice a screw went in the wrong place in the drop done box ( workshop shot) 😀
You and Peter Millard both noticed that (along with everyone else too polite to say probably!)
Freebird Interiors 😀 hi Alister .would it be possible to send you a email about a cabinet I’m building (for my self) in relation to the hinge or carcass position with an inset door closing flush with an end panel not the carcass as the inside is exposed birch ply with paint on outside? Hope I’m making sense.
david osullivan yes go ahead find my email via my website
Alastair, what downlights did you use?
Very nice project.
It's all so pristine and that wire channel in the back stood out a lot. I know, I should get a life!
Hafele Loox LED downlights, I think they’re called ‘2002’. I recently finished a nice bedroom install in same colour! On my Instagram.
Absolutely excellent
Jason Lloyd why thank you!
Really nice job there. Interested in the CNC doors. Why they CNC cut all the way through with a rebate to accept another panel? The CNC machine could just mill out the material from the front to maker the shaker style and it would be flat on the back out of one piece of material. Just interested?
Simon Duggan hi Simon yes that would seem to make sense - more efficient use of material etc. However in practice it creates a lot of work trying to sand the fluffy core of mdf that gets revealed. Very difficult to sand this well enough to get a good sprayed finish on it. Hence dropping in a panel. Even vinyl wrap door manufacturers do this (I have cut up one of their shaker doors to prove it!). Except actually they don’t route the door right through. Just a bit deeper than the panel then drop in maybe a 3mm panel, glued in. This keeps the prefinished melamine back intact. There is one company I have discovered www.cupboarddoor.co.uk/who machine raw MDF doors solid and achieve an amazing smooth sanded finish, presumably with some specialised machinery like a brush sander or something.
It just occurred to me there is a second reason: this method means routing from the reverse face which allows you to also create the hinge cup holes on the cnc.
Thanks for the reply. Having thought about it myself I can totally see it would be more work to get the inside surface nice and smooth especially in corners etc. And of course the hinges! That's great. I have a very small 1000mm x 1000mm xcarve CNC and was looking to make some shaker doors on there. Obviously can't make out of a full sheet but this is ok as it's not production work. I will take your feedback on board when I try it. I'm splitwood design co on Instagram. Keep up the UA-cam vids as well. Very interesting 👍👍
Have you seen the little cordless plane by Bosch, only 12v but it’s small, light and might be an idea for yourself when scribing the edges?
I have seen it on instagram, it looks good. Since making this video I have bought the Festool EHL-65 planer and I LOVE this tool, it has a slightly spiral cutting blade and cuts very cleanly. instagram.com/p/B42uix9AoYe/?
Hi there, always find your videos a joy to watch Alistair. May I ask you a couple of things, the doors did you make them yourself or had them made by example Lawcris. Ps which is the most one use (range/model) from lawcris in terms of melamine/laminate. Thanks in advance. ps. I am looking to use Lawcris you see and frankly I feel that if you know what you want its ok otherwise one just gets lost and a bit of a struggle to work them out.
Hi thank you! We made the doors. Or possibly at this stage we outsourced them as 2 piece made by a local cnc company. Now we have our own cnc and make them either 2 piece or 1 piece. Yes loads of laminate variations. These days we use the ‘12-twenty’ range of melamine faced mdf by Finsa. Bought via Able boards, Premier Forest, Lathams or Falcon
Another great vid, many thanks for sharing. You mention at the start of the vid, the word "Design" which got me wondering, do you need professional indemnity insurance for designing furniture here in the UK? You know, proving that the furniture could hold up in all areas when fully loaded etc or do you just push this down the line to material suppliers/manufacturers?
Hi I seem to have missed this comment first time around! Well I do have professional indemnity insurance but it’s rare I feel I’m doing anything that might be risky
Great aolutiins for thus mistakes, wgat actually could be happen to everyone .
Please let me know what software do you recomand for a beginer cabinet maker ? Software shat could build easy sny type of cabinets , maby could makd a quote if the orices of materials and laboures are already set up. Many thanks.
Hi, well I use Sketchup and you will find a training course on it on my channel, and it is relatively easy to get started with compared to other 3D drawing software. However if you want to go straight to making cabinets which are ready for cutlisting, pricing, etc, this is really quite a complex matter that either takes a lot of learning and set up, or you pay for 'parametric' cabinet software. If you want to really keep it simple, research iphone and iphone apps that can do this. But they will all have limitations. If you want to get serious about this you could try CabinetSense but be prepared for a lot of learning time. Make some time to watch this video: ua-cam.com/video/WaDJSBjrNjI/v-deo.htmlsi=YQhW21DXVdYPLdnM
Another great video mate - my Dad has a saying which I think of every time I have to deal with a problem at work -
' it's not how you get into trouble , it's how you get out of trouble ! ' , which is very true isn't it ? .
Do you think doing a full height scale drawing of the unit would have helped you to notice the problem with the door height ? - I do it every time I do a newel post layout , just to give me the confidence I've got everything right before I start cutting .....
RICHARD RJ JOINERY that’s a good saying! And you mean like a setting out rod? Coming from an architectural background with very little proper woodworking training, I worked from drawings from the start but I have often been struck by the good sense of making full size marking rods and occasionally remember and use them, but mainly for real joinery work (we used to make nice solid wood gates) but that’s rare these days! We increasingly trust the drawing and work from those sizes, but I suppose we got complacent.
@@Alastair_Freebird that's it mate - a marking out rod . I know it sounds a bit old school, but it works and it's always handy to refer back to during the build . I once did an oak newel post on a winder stair and marked it wrong , cut out the housings , then realised my mistake . You only do that once on a 90 x 90 X 2100 peice of lovely oak don't you ? ...
I've used a story rod ever since .
I have 10 full height doors to make next month and I'm really considering buying them in. Any recommendations for suppliers welcome.
Anthony James Brown that’s a lot of tall doors! Stresses me out trying to manage clamping, sanding and painting so many tall doors and keep them straight. For most of our wardrobes I steer customers towards vinyl wrapped options. I recommend East Coast Fittings if this is suitable. With that sort of thing you just pick a style and give them the sizes required. For painted I’d get them CNC’d in 22mm MR MDF with a 9mm or 12mm label dropped in but this means finding a more flexible cnc manufacturer and preparing drawings in the right format, and some understanding of suitable cutters and radiuses, we’re only just getting to grips with this.
I'm curious to know why you opt to drop in a panel when you could just have the door made from a solid sheet with the detail routed out? (cnc)
Because you can’t get the routed core of the mdf smooth enough for a painted finish. At least not without so much sanding work that it’s more hassle than the dropped in panel method
That's really interesting. There are lots of companies online who offer sjalee style doors done on the cnc. Some offering full painting service do I guess they must be getting good results. I'm meeting with a local company tomorrow so we'll see how they are. Will let you know.
Yes let me know Id be interested. Not long ago I replace an alcove installation that the customer got made via Jali. Customer wanted the design expertise and proper installation. It encouraged me that there is still a place for our personal design led approach even as these clever bespoke CNC factories increase in influence.
Hi, nice work. Quick question, how are you fixing the thin filler pieces on the sides in place? Thanks
For inset scribes like these ones I mostly just use a good construction adhesive, places sparingly towards the rear of the strip, on the unit and on the wall. Sometimes also nail gun nails (18 gauge), through the wide panel into the edge of the scribe, so long as I have a matching wax filler to fill the holes afterwards.
@@Alastair_Freebird thanks. 👍
Is all your builds mdf sprayed or do you use mfc too thanks like the Finnish you have achieved.
Melamine for internal carcases lately
New to your channel and really enjoying it - subbed etc and looking at the back catalogue as well! could you tell me what paint and the colour you used for this as it will be perfect for my upcoming home built projects! - I am in the uk so any suppliers would be welcome. Keep them coming. Cheers. Dave
Hi Dave I’m glad you like the content! The paint we use is the Sayerlack waterbased - topcoat code staring AT99, primer code starting HNAU45. 15% sheen. This was mixed to match the Farrow and Ball colour ‘Plummett’. We buy it from Movac. It is not the cheapest water based spray paint but we find it gives minimal grain raising on the MDF, the primer sands really nicely, and we just get good results, so we stick with it.
You may find this video interesting if you want to know more about how we settled on using this paint: ua-cam.com/video/QjdIoW0rD3o/v-deo.html
And finally, you’ll probably like the upcoming episode of ‘The Fitted Furniture Makers Podcast’ where I discuss all things spray-painting related with Matt Marriott from Instasprayers on Instagram. I should get it fully edited and uploaded within the next couple of weeks.
Thanks man for all your videos. I've been binge watching them. Quick question - How did you get the cable to go into the shelves for the lights. Did you route a channel? if so, how did you cover it?
I love hearing this (you’re not the first to say you’ve binge watched my videos!)
Drill up where the spotlight will be but not all the way through. And drill through the back panel and back edge of the shelf! Takes a long drill and some care.
This jig makes it easier www.locksonline.com/Drilling-Jig-for-Loox-Cables-and-Switches-Hafele-99884.html?gclid=CjwKCAiA57D_BRAZEiwAZcfCxedV7M2ttiQAz6sBKsBDtzsE27KpChMPoIwHir8VwSZVowft3e8iYBoCslIQAvD_BwE
@@Alastair_Freebird Thanks man. I appreciate it. I've subscribed to your buymeacoffee page by the way. Thanks for all you're doing for the community.
You’re welcome and thanks for subscribing!
What are the orange spacers called which you use to fix the bookshelves to the wall visible at 8:15 please?
Adam York my second most popular question after the green things... they are space plugs. Find them at Toolstation. 👍
@@Alastair_Freebird Brilliant, thank you so much! I will be attempting my own Alcove cupboards and your videos have been the most fantastic resource!
this probably sounds like an odd question - but on your cabinet carcasses, the top and bottom sections are set inside the two side uprights and not ontop and bellow them. Is there a reason for this?
goto 15.16 for an example
Matthew Dartford strangely enough someone else asked the same thing in another video around the same time! It’s a standard way of doing it. One reason is that the shelves, top and bottom can all by cut at same length and it goes together just right! And I just think it looks right. But there would be advantages to the other way, including skating things around on the plinth a bit easier!
Brilliant 👏👏👏. Are you on Twitter?
Kevin Steer so far no, would you recommend it?
Definitely. There’s a great community of makers on there helping each other out. Give it a go.
Kevin Steer interesting. I found the same on Instagram and I’ve been reluctant to overcommit to social media but maybe I will try it!