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Willow was powerful enough since season 4 to turn Amy back but she just didn't realize it until after resurrecting buffy. They did try many times to reverse the spell unsuccessfully.
I dont think Rusty himself was frozen. I think he was encapsuled in ice.
@@JoshuaMartian-go3tm So, so much I want to say to our reactors... but no! NO! I must not.
I'll only say, because I have to, that you should never trust Joss when he appears to be giving you want you want to see. Every time you say, "AWESOME! BADASS! FINALLY!" he turns it into 'oh, fuck, you bastard'.
And that may have said too much. Sorry.
[Zipper unzipping] has got to be one of the greatest closed captions of this series.
My favorite outside of this show is from Jurassic Park: [Mooing in fear].
Fallout had a good one where a Vault Tec rep is laughing and the caption says [laughs in billionaire]
@@obredaanps3 I need to rewatch that series with closed captions 🤣
Buffy's treatment of spike is ABSOLUTELY projection and it's also using his affection as a salve for her own depression. She just wants to "feeeeeeeeel. Aliiiiivve"
“This isn’t real, but I just want to feel..”
"I want the fire back" because "She is drawn to the FIE-YUH" 🔥🔥🔥
So they show that only sex with him can make her feel alive. It's that powerful, I see 😃
But why is it absolutely projection ? It doesn't look like it to me. It's more like she feels that she wants him, but she thinks that she needs to fight it, so she fights him. She thinks that it's so wrong and he is so wrong and she is trying to act 'normal' with the vamp, she constantly reminds him that 'he is a thing' but she only talks to herself just to stop wanting it with him. She thinks that if she keeps doing what she's supposed to do with vamps like slaying them and beating them this will somehow return her to 'normal' state. But beating him makes her also passionate so she ends up having sex with him here. If it were an absolute projection she would end up crying or run away, smth like that.
It deeply resembles the episode where Faith switches body with Buffy and beats "Faith-Buffy" up calling her evil and all.
@@Junejane4 I don't know if you watched the entire show, but if not, just wait a bit for the "crying or run away, smth like that"... About the "projection", it seems they were talking about how she treats him badly and can't stand him, but somehow still sticks around. It's like she's showing how much she hates herself in the process. It's her way of transferring her pain to him, instead of getting psychological help. But deep down, she does want him because he's the only one who gets what she's going through right now. But there's also this thing where she resents herself for wanting him because he's soulless. It's a hole mess!! Poor Buffy >
"You guys want to team up and take over Sunnydale?" They literally reiterating the 3 nerds motivation from a few episodes ago in the recap. They want to take over Sunnydale, Buffy protects Sunnydale. Hence the messing with her. They are looking for her weaknesses, they said that too a few episodes ago lol. Pls like this comment so they can see it 😂😂😂
We will like it but it won't matter. In a few episodes they will say the same thing
I never understood why they just didn't go take over another town. Trying to take over the one place where the slayer is was always dumb.
@@zkeletonz001
Why doesn’t Lex Luther leave Metropolis to Superman and mess with lower tier superheroes or even a town without superheroes?
It’s probably an ego thing. And since they consider themselves comic book supervillains, they probably internalized the wrong messages. Last time at least Jonathan went the hero route-sort of.
To be fair, that was a quick cut away gag that was intentionally random and shallow. They’re talking about a more genuine motivation, especially for Jonathan who has history with Buffy and the Scoobies.
Another good discussion. Spike and Buffy in season 6 is such a whirlwind. It's toxic, yet intimate. It's violent. It's highly erotically charged. It's safe enough for them to be able to explore something they can't explore with anyone else, and yet it's not safe in the traditional sense because it's manipulative and abusive. And none of it would have happened if Buffy wasn't in a deep state of depression. Depression isn't all lethargy and lying in bed. It's also stuff like this.
I will say though that Spike was not just using verbal putdowns and physical smackdowns only as a means to "get through to Buffy". It's also simply who he is. Spike has loved and worshipped through violent means ever since he became a vampire. S*x and violence are completely connected to him. And with the chip gone (at least with regards to Buffy), there is no need for him to hold back anymore.
A toxic cocktail for sure. Can't wait for you to see how it unfolds.
I've always wondered how Spike might have been different if he wasn't "raised" by Angelus and the gang.
Depression is crazy. It's so many different things. It's lying around but it's also keeping yourself so busy you can't just lay around. People who think it's just sadness really have no clue
The sex scene initially went on for another 30 seconds when they fell through the floor but they cut it.
the best sex scene in buffy
This season always makes me remember Angel 1x19 Sanctuary, when Faith told Buffy: "You're all about control. You have no idea what it's like on the other side! Where nothing's in control, nothing makes sense! There is just pain and hate and nothing you do means anything! You can't even.."
I feel that Buffy goes through that this season.
Jessica Fletcher is more of an 80s/90s reference. Murder, She wrote.
So the censors weren't in place at the UPN Network by the time Buffy season 6 aired. And as a result...we have Smashed. LOL!
Crazy how the most clothed sex scene in the entire series is somehow also the dirtiest.
this flapjacks not ready to be flipped
The nerds are messing with Buffy because they want to Super Villains straight out of a comic book. Every super villain needs an arch nemesis.
well one of them do while the two others are following
That "I'm Stuff" was so unexpected - had me dying 🤣
"Maybe Buffy is part angel"
There was a point where she did have a bit of Angel in her.
Buffy and Spike have so much passion that the first time they “sleep” together they brought a hole house down.
Gotta give credit to Spike and his intuitiveness for reading the room that quickly- knowing to go straight for the Fett since he couldn’t physically hurt the nerds.
One of my favorite parts of this season is watching the Trio violently irritate Marketa every time that they show up. It’s gold😂🤣.
Rana screaming and covering her eyes at the end. 🤣
One of the funniest things I have heard about the behind the scenes was when the writers were trying to think of what the trio would have conversations about. One said, hey, just use the conversation WE JUST HAD. So they did. I love the trio.
Rana: “He’s doing something nice. He wants to show her that she’s evil.”
Me: How is that nice 🤔😂
rana doesn’t always do words right lol
It would've made more sense if the "she" refers to Drusilla.
One of the reasons Willow couldn’t turn Amy back is she didn’t know what spell she used. The Reveal spell was able to give her that info. She probably learned the reveal spell but since she loves to figure things out on her own so didn’t think about it much till then.
it's crazy how people always want to blame willow for the time it took to bring her back like she'd just forgot about her for years and didn't care. they mention a few times that she's working on it and struggling off screen. i think they just hate on her for her addiction problems so look for anything to pile on the hate with. they also forget amy did it herself. mickey seemed to have at one point he said something like "you stole the best years of my life" as if it was willow who turned her.
Yes. I mean Willow was powerful enough back in season 4 to reverse the spell on Amy but she just didn't realize it. Reversing someone else's spell is not easy as we will see in an upcoming episode. It wasn't until her delving into black magic, until it finally dawns on her.
@@leesmith9299 Yes, she and buffy tried numerous times to reverse Amy's spell but Willow was just not powerful enough yet back then. Yes it was Amy's own spell that caused it when she tried to get away. It's been established that reversing a witch or demon spell is difficult.
Spike! You know who Boba Fett is. Don't act like you haven't been making star wars references since your first episode.
He's just trying to look cool
To be fair, that name is barely mentioned in the original trilogy.
Rana is too pure for the end of this episode.
Spidey and Chris: "Git it ya'll"
Marketa: Worried about the property damage and the err . . . RAMifications.
Micky: "You can do it standing up?"
Pat: 😀
Suraj: "I think I'm kinda gay."
Great reaction guys!
Forgot to add it's pretty clear who on the couch has only done some tender Sarah McLachlan love and who has done some f**kin'.
Oh, Rana! That look on her face at the end! 🤣
20 years later and still can't understand how this made it past the censors... Crazy.
Because their clothes were on?
UPN was uh.. notoriously not very closely monitored.
all of it didn't, both Sarah and James made tons of "loud noises" that they had to remove, exists on the dailies.
@@Henrik_Holst I remember it being more graphic first run, and it seemed longer...but I was horrified while watching it. The DVD was toned down a bit, but that was years later when I bought them. I'm sure they unenhanced some things!! 😄
@@larissabrewington9065 I don't think the DVD is cut, atleast not the European one (cannot speak for the US version). The dailies are here btw: ua-cam.com/video/u7xeTGiLPRU/v-deo.html and they had LOTS of more filmed than what was finally used.
edit: it also shows just how much goes into making the show, I mean here we have 40+ minutes of shooting just that less than 10 minutes of a scene.
SPIKE is a Masochist. It is not a surprise. Well, to most of us, anyways. LMAO!
16:05 We were all thinking it, Spidey.
In season 4 episode 16, when Faith is in Buffy's body, Spike tells her "I get this chip out, you and me are gonna have a confrontation."
In this episode, Spike realises his chip doesn't work for Buffy anymore and they immediately have a, uh, confrontation.. 😅
Spoilers!!!
**Season 7 Spoilers** And on top of that, after Spike actually gets his chip out, he and Faith really do have a confrontation.
@@scottwilson3741 He's referring to a past episode and the current one.
@@jp3813 idk what I had on my mind
Jessica Fletcher is Angela Landsburys character from Murder She Wrote 😊
I love that this is Season 6 Episode 9....and its the smashed sex scene, I swear these writers never let anything pass them by!
"It was the most sexual sex qcene of the entire serie" LOL. Guys u are really not ready for what is coming. This one is pretty chill but banger with the building falling down. New Area in the serie start now.
what do you mean? that was in fact possibly the most sexual scene
@@howdareyou259 for me there are many scene after this one which are more sexual than this. Thats my opinion
The grumpy face through all the spuffy scenes kill me.
😮😊😊😊😢😊😊
I believe that the ending scene was voted TVs hottest sex scene a long time ago, I'm sure someone can confirm or deny.
It's got my vote.
Few could compare.
It’d be the first thing I’d think of if I was asked.
The moment of insertion
When it first came on
I screamed so loud
Noooooooooo
Whole block heard me😂
#SUNDAYRUNDOWN What Marketa said about Buffy being kinda abusive does make sense, despite having the chip Spike is still a vampire and doesn't have a soul so Buffy like the rest of the Scoobies doesn't really see him as a person but as Buffy put it just a "dead thing." So it makes sense she would do things to Spike she normally wouldn't do to other people in other relationships. Its also good to remember how much stronger Buffy is than Spike, he couldn't even lift the troll hammer and Buffy was just one arm swinging that thing around, like she said during the end scene he wasn't even been able to hurt her yet. Spike sticking it out makes sense, since he was changed and was under Angelus I don't think he has much experience with healthy non abusive relationships.
Ppl also immediately forget past episodes..they should pay attention to the lyrics Buffy sings in the musical..also Spike..this tells us the dynamic of their “relationship “…
"These guys are f'ing gold tier"
Spidey gets it
You had to send away for that Boba Fett. It wasn't available for retail.
That's not quite right. You're thinking of the early bird certificate. That did not have Boba Fett. Boba's action figure came out as a lead up to Empire and after Boba's popularity from the holiday special. He didn't have his own figure in 77 because he wasn't in the original release of A New Hope. Or for us OGs it was just called Star Wars and didn't have an episode number and tidel.
@@NathanClarkNateMan010276 You are mistaken... because that's how I received my first Boba Fett. A few other kids in my class did as well... but I got mine first, which was a big deal for a few weeks, until my buddy got his.
@@mithroch really that's so weird because everything I see online says it came in a single character with a picture from Empire on the card. If you say you got it personally I'm not going to argue. I should have believed that quote from Abe Lincoln "never trust things you read on the internet"
I got Palpatine and Anakin, the older man version by sending away for them. :) Man that was so long ago.
S6 is wild 🤑😂
Completely forgot about the Boba Fett bit, so funny lol.
#SundayRundown BTVS
Spike is still a soulless demon that physically and emotionally beat Buffy down using her vulnerability and trauma about being ripped out of heaven against her for his own selfish needs.
Buffy told Spike her secret about being in heaven before everyone and Spike still being a demon waited till he can craft the perfect moment where he could hurt her at her most lowest point to weaken her and that’s exactly what happened.
I wonder where he learned that…
its Sunnydale weird things are so common now they are unfazed by it
Rana in the Pulp Fiction reaction: Hope you guys know I get really uncomfortable watching (sex scenes) with you guys
Me knowing this episode’s coming: 👀😏
Yalls reaction to the zipper killed me lmfao
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THISSSS
I love Rana hiding from the angry sex.
My take is that Jonathan just wanted friends and a place to belong. He couldn't be the hero so he clung to the first people who gave him that sense of acceptance. At some level I think he did want revenge for not being part of Buffy's group, even though he didn't seem to really try to join them.
I love how quickly you guys went to the period talk 😂
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Everyone at The Bronze when I suddenly asked: Why are the lights on? This is when I remembered that the HD remaster is very bad.
I mean, sure everyone focusses on the fact that Buffy is very unkind to Spike which... sure.
But nobody ever comments on the fact that, the second he thinks he can, Spike runs directly back to attempting to kill people. The guy is still very in favour of a life of rape and murder
A lot of Spike fans tend to forget this. They get seduced by the sexual allure of James Marsters (admittedly that man is dripping with charisma 😂) that they forget that Spike is still evil and still desires to kill. The singular second that he thought he could kill again, he didn’t even hesitate to jump back in.
he also frankly says some abusive things in this episode (that she has no one else and he’s the only one she’s got is something abusers say to manipulate their victims)
I always thought the situation with Spike's chip not working on Buffy was very simple...
Chip saw Buffy die and doesn't register that she came back to live
Anya is easily one of the best non-official autistic representation characters in television. ❤
Is it possible to be blunt and honest without being autistic?
I don't think the couch crew is ready for this season.
People always argue that Spike is somehow special or unique for a vampire, in his obsession for Buffy (that people mistake for love) and is somehow innately more human or “good.”
The only thing that him in check was the chip. The proof being that the first thing he does when he thinks it has malfunctioned is to try and murder someone.
Willow's addicted to the Juju, Buffy's a addicted to Spike's spike, and Spike is a Sado-masochist! And Daniel Craig was a great Bond.
Rana is adorable
If you think of the Trio as UA-cam commenters, everything makes a lot more sense.
SPOILER FOR THE MOVIE _FULL METAL JACKET_
Willow wanted a pet rat until she could do it herself or until she realized she could do it herself. That's why she didn't go to Giles It's just another aspect of her addiction. Amy's issues are Willow's fault. Amy enabling Willow, along with continuing her own addiction, doesn't stop that. From _Teacher's Pet_ through _Gingerbread_ is basically Willow's story of seasons five and six for Amy, but that doesn't mean Willow not going to Giles wasn't a mistake concerning her own addiction.
5:53-5:57 Not yet. Not until the end of the episode. At this time cut all they've done is kiss.
"Critical, but stable condition." Either the media lied, was told to lie, or wasn't given the truth. It happens all the time.
It took The Normies way too long to realize Spike was faking the headache and that he just then realized he could hit Buffy. "Look at all The Goodies" is proof Spike has always just been locked up with the chip and hasn't ever been good. Trying to talk himself into it doesn't prove he's good deep down either. It shows he's out of practice and has Lima Syndrome. Which is the opposite of Stockholm Syndrome. Lima Syndrome means a captor or abuser forms a positive connection with their victims. He definitely isn't good. And never has been.
Spike having to look to see what Boba Fett's name was and playing with the figure in the background cracks me up.
I've never seen Doctor Who and even I know it's older than BtVS, Pat.
Amy willing to magically give a girl to Willow makes her no better than Willow was when she slept with Tara after erasing her memory. I like to think Willow turning hr down is a small smidgen of guilt over doing that, but considering where her head is at, I'm not sure it flies as a good theory.
The writer of the episode said she walked down to set when they were filming the hieght of Willow and Amy at The Bronze and was gobbsmacked the scene was pulled off.
The Normies realization of the title of the episode was so amusing. The house being smashed around Spike and Buffy as they smash. Such an obvious metaphor that I was in denial about during the original airing, along with so many other people who wanted Spike and Buffy to be in a "good" relationship. The quotation marks are because Buffy hasn't ever really been in a healthy or good relationship.
Buffy is not part demon. Spike's chip doesn't recognize her as alive anymore, after her death. Way to go Scooby Gang. Another complication to resurrection. Being resurrected with CPR didn't make her officially dead in the eyes of magic or science. CPR worked end of story. Magic put skin back on bones and took Buffy's soul from aheaven and stuffed it unnaturally back in her body this time, so Spike's soul doesn't acknowledge that as alive.
The sex scene (as well as this season as a whole for that matter) shows the difference between _Standards and Practices_ on UPN vs the more strict Standards and Practices on The WB in the late '90's and early 2000's.
I agree with Marketa in that while Spike is who he is, it doesn't make Buffy's behavior towards him a good thing. And it never has concerning hitting him while he can't hit back. Buffy herself called Faith a loser for that back in _Enemies._ Buffy should either stake him, or go home and ignore him. The behavior has only climaxed into this with her depression thrown into the mix.
Willow being unaware of everything is part of her addiction. It's all about the magic since the first time her eyes went black (when she sought revenge against Glory) and since resurrecting Buffy. Tara left the abusive relationship for a reason and Willow is in denial because she has been addicted since the beginning and has turned two points of no return.
Jonathan's motivation in the group is that he thinks this is all harmless, and after his last apperance before S3 he found people with the same interests. Andrew is definitely just a follower and idolizes Warren, and Warren is just ceepy.
Back in _Earshot,_ the head canon is Jonathan grabbed the only gun his underage self could get ahold of, not one of practicality. Just like Private Pyle using the M14 in _Full Metal Jacket._
I’m paraphrasing but I always laugh when Xander says “that’s it there’s no demon who freezes people that also eats diamonds” then Buffy goes “well maybe he doesn’t eat them maybe he just thinks their pretty” 🤣
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This is just another comment letting ya'll know Rana is the most mood of Reaction channel moods. ❤
When you knock a building down and don’t realize it 😂 Also, Rana’s reaction was just like mine when I first watched this over twenty years ago.
Jonathan probably used a rifle because it was his dad's and the only firearm he could find.
For Spuffy fans, someone leaked the "dailies" (raw onset footage) of the sex scene, as well as some other episodes. It can be found on UA-cam if you search for it.
The nerds are messing with Buffy, because she is a woman with power.
Well more testing her out and probing for weaknesses.
Basically they read too many comic books and have romanticized fantasy vision of life and they want to be "super villains" and they know there is a super hero out there so they are doing what any super-villain would do and mess with the hero. They don't want to kill her, but they they want to know how to fight and evade her and get away with crime.
Warren is
@@Micheal93k yes yes, but they dont have the full context yet
In seriousness. They are messing with Buffy because they want to take over Sunnydale. Buffy protects Sunnydale so they are probing her for weaknesses. I don't know why surj and micky keep bringing up modern terms like incel. They literally repeated they're motivation in the recap at the beginning. "You guy's want to team up and take over Sunnydale?" I don't understand the confusion lol
No one gets a Murder She Wrote reference.. sad
yip, Jessica Fletcher was a brilliant female character that no one talks about. Plus she was an older lady and that show was huge in its day. Also R.I.P the great Angela Lansbury ❤
Spidey's got a point, but I think Whedon would have wrote it even more foul than that. Imagine Spike having a calendar in his lair with a few days a month circled, by which he knows when to go fishing in Buffy's trash cans for "edibles".
Lol I've never clicked on a video so fast. Welcome to the Spuffy DIY Demolition Crew 😆⚒
Yes Marketa for recognizing early on the whole bad of Buffy diving into this lips first. She was cruel in this.
Jessica Fletcher is Angela Lansbury's famous character from Murder She Wrote. She was nominated for best actress at The Emmys for 12 years in a row for that performance.
9:23 *Suraj,* back in 1979 we were able to mail order the *Boba Fett* figure with proof of purchase from other specific figs. That's how I got my first *Fett.*
I can't even articulate just how crazy exciting it was to get this amazingly cool looking figure in the mail when I was 12, before seeing him in live action in _The Empire Strikes Back_ a year later (more like 5-6 months later, I think).
Those were the days. 😊
That is how you bring the house down🤣😂
smiling friends please
I thought it was long established that the Slayer was partially infused with the power of a demon. 😈
SMG stated that the graphic sex scenes with Spike were degrading and humiliating.
And James Marsters said that he found his so traumatising that he now specifically has it in his contract not to perform them. And he had o have years of therapy after.
Even though Amy is back, we can see she is a bad influence on Willow, as she is a powerful witch also, the two of them at having great fun at The Bronze, but at the expense of everyone else, we can see again the magic addiction out of control. Spike knows something has changed in Buffy, and proves it by hitting her with no neural pain for him. It always looked as if it was only a matter of time when Buffy succumbed to her sexual urges and desires, and they two of them with superhuman powers shag so hard they demolish the house! The seeds are now really being sown for the tone of this Season as 'Pandora's Box' is now well and truly opened. The reason the sex scenes were shown now is because of the network change. On the WB it was not allowed, but once they switched to UPN it was ok. James Marsters explained this in an interview at Dublin Comicon in 2019.
Loved your reaction as always❤. You should watch society of the snow. It's a great movie and I would love to hear what you have to say about that one.
The vampire period jokes right after the episode were top notch fr
Buffy is part demon. Her power is the source of the Shadow Demon. The longer she lives the more Powerful the Slayer becomes. Since she died. She came back still human but maybe 🤔 she's becoming more of the Slayer and her human side is there, But Dracula told her. Her power is rooted in Darkness which on a spectrum where she can hunt. Smell. Kill, The Slayer =Shadow Demon
Or 💁♀️ maybe spike chip is malfunctioning ? Let's GO Normies 🎬
I just adore how anti-Angel Marketa has been and now she kinda loves Spike and realizes Buffy is the the abusive one.😅
@@jevonk You mean, Porker?
They're both kind of the abusive one tbh.
@@prometheus3498 Buffy more so at the time.
She wont be when they react to a certain episode between Spike and Buffy.
@Gwenhwyfar7 spike groupies are so cringe.
Boba Fett has been popular as a character since he showed up. My sister had many SW figurines in the 90s including The Fett lol... to use the nerds lingo.
Angel deserved better!!!!!
Spidey was on a roll this episode. ^_^
First time she died she came back with the use of CPR, Xander saving her required no magic. The second time she lagitimatedly died by magic and came back with magic unatural x2. That is why the first time she was still human Buffy. Second thought - Here we have another example of when what a villain says about her tendencies and mannerisms are correct, I am referencing Faith, hungry, horny, and bad, little miss goody two shoes has an evil side that just wants to come out.
Marketta! Listen. When Buffy says those horrible things to Spike, she is not talking to him!!! She's talking about herself. She hates herself.
Pat:"Doctor Who is this old?"
Me: "I.... I can't.... " lmfao. I'd love to see reactions of Doctor Who, though I know what a time commitment that is.
Guys....Normies....Spike is an EVIL demon who will kill anyone if he didnt have that chip. He's not human, so Buffy treating him bad isn't exactly a bad thing.
24:41 😂 I pray 🙏🏾 SMH
Smash was a brand of instant mashed potatoes when i was a kid.
I was 16 when I watched this episode and when *that* scene came on, my mom walked into the room to see what I was watching... That was awkward to say the least.
3:07 willow has been continually trying to unrat her off screen. it gets mentioned a few times over the seasons. surely we've all had a long term problem and then suddenly have an inspired moment and work it out.
I know what Buffy tells Spike is wrong ! Calling him a thing... BUT is she wrong wrong ? The second he thought the chip wasn't working anymore, what did he do ?? He tried to kill a girl... I'm not saying telling those kinds of things to people isn't wrong. IT CLEARLY IS ! But, I can't fully blame Buffy here because it's not a normal situation. It's Buffy !! We're not talking about some human guy in the real world, we're talking about a vampire that killed a lot of people, tortured... and was trying to kill again the second he thought he could... Yes calling him a thing is mean. But technically... He's a vampire, a killer, a monster... a lot of things. Man, is not what would came first in mind for him... (Important to note that i LOOOOOVE Spike ! But... this episode and the way he treats Buffy is no better than the way she treats him. He knows what she went through and is still going through... The way he brings up all of that -the chip and the link to her resurrection...-, or the simple fact that he fixate on their kisses knowing she's depressed and vulnerable... He's being equally abusive, if not more. But we are just more accustomed to see Spike act like that than Buffy I guess).
Great reaction and your entertaining comments are just fun. I will wait a few episodes before fully commenting on Buffy and Willow but this is a good time to step back a little on the Season. BTVS has always been about more than Vampires and fights. Look at some of the themes emerging: depression, loneliness, challenges of a teenage single Mother, toxic relationships, the blurring of sexual relationships and violence, intelligence without morality etc. What other show even tries these subjects much less a teen supernatural action show? What other show makes its lead actress depressed and also abusive. Then make the popular male lead violent and obsessive. That’s the definition of gutsy.
ADAM DAVIES!
Spidey almost made me pee.
Hoo boy
Prediction time: do you think we will lose any Normies this controversial season? Marketa?
No. The Season is not only controversial, it is the most intellectually challenging and the one with the most profound moral questions. This is a very smart group.
Hmm no, but I think there are some aspects they may struggle with. I think Marketa especially will find it hard to sit through THAT episode.
Scalloped potatoes are nasty.
I make mine from scratch and they’re quite tasty lol.
I just realised that the episode with the most intense sex scene is episode 6x9 😂
Pat: “Doctor Who’s this old?”…🙄😞
...Anya was wearing a wig this episode...🧐🤔
Ive met evil people their answer for doing evil is they got bored.