Landing with 25 kts crosswind - Mooney in Zell am See LOWZ

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  • Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
  • This is the arrival to and departure from Zell am See in Austria. Extreme crosswind and gust conditions prevailed at the time.

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  • @twopheew9995
    @twopheew9995 6 років тому +5

    Excellent video. Great airmanship! Thank you for posting it!

  • @wseucan
    @wseucan 6 років тому +5

    Das ist heftig, dass du ohne Passagiere heimfliegen musstest. War aber natürlich die richtige Entscheidung. Sicherheit geht vor. Cooles Video!

  • @PilotFun101
    @PilotFun101 6 років тому

    Nice video. I love my M20C. Thanks for sharing!

  • @billd3569
    @billd3569 6 років тому +1

    Flew in as a passenger during the summer of 2017, beautiful place!

  • @filipponesi6389
    @filipponesi6389 7 років тому

    Excellent video! LOWZ is amazing in simulator with Orbx and Flugwerk Austria HD, obviously no compare with real aviation!
    Thanks for your contribution!

  • @merlin9244
    @merlin9244 6 років тому +1

    Super landing, despite of the gusts...

  • @worldspottingexhibit
    @worldspottingexhibit 7 років тому +3

    Very cool and informative video, thanks for sharing!

  • @ChuckKC
    @ChuckKC 5 років тому +1

    Looks like fun

  • @thejoyofflying182
    @thejoyofflying182 7 років тому

    Sehr schönes Video und Erklärungen zu den Abläufen! Gefällt mir sehr gut :)
    Beim Take off mit Crosswind lasse ich das Flugzeug immer etwas mehr als die Rotationsgeschwindigkeit beschleunigen und ziehe es dann beherzt vom Boden weg. So möchte ich ein ungewolltes Abdriften mit den Rädern des Hauptfahrwerks auf Boden verhindern. Besonders bei Pisten mit Querrillen schont das meiner Meinung nach den Reifenmantel.
    Fliegergrüße aus EDRY

    • @MikeVictorAviation
      @MikeVictorAviation  7 років тому

      Danke. Gute Vorgehensweise. Dafür muss du am Boden aber "nachdrücken" oder? Wenn es so böhig ist, fängt der Flieger schon in der Nähe von Vr an zu hüpfen (sieht man in der Außenperspektive). Wenn dann ein starker Seitenwind dazukommt, hüpft man schnell seiltich von der Bahn. Also entweder schnell weg vom Boden oder aktiv unten halten würde ich sagen.

    • @thejoyofflying182
      @thejoyofflying182 7 років тому

      Ja genau, etwas nachdrücken, ohne das Bugfahrwerk unnötig zu belasten. Der Sinn dahinter: Bodenhaftung zu behalten und die Abdrift zu vermeiden. Wenn die Abhebengeschwindigkeit + Zuschlag erreicht ist, beherzt weg ziehen :)

    • @swish6143
      @swish6143 6 років тому

      Gerade die Mooney hüpft gerne und am Propeller ist relativ wenig Platz nach unten. Nach POH hoch ziehen und über der Bahn gleitend erstmal beschleunigen. Dann erst steigen. Nachdrücken, ich weiß nicht so recht.

  • @barisyildirim4167
    @barisyildirim4167 5 років тому +1

    Is it just my eyes or does that wing drop really doesn't look like it's flying a 25knot direct cross wind but a lot less cross wind component. Nice flying. Don't get me wrong but I'm sceptical about if you really had 25kts. Even if you did isn't m20 cross wind component like 11kts? So why would you fly 25kts crosswind at more than double it's demonstrated component?

    • @MikeVictorAviation
      @MikeVictorAviation  5 років тому +1

      At 3:20 the tower guy says "25kts from the right", meaning perpendicular to the runway, in German. After landing I checkt the display of the weather station and wind was in deed coming from the south.
      The POH of the M20 says it has a "max demonstrated xw component" of 11 or 12 kts (I don't remember exactly). That only means that the test pilot at the time tested at these maximum conditions. However, that does neither mean it is the maximum the aircraft can handle, nor is it a legally binding max allowable xw. In this situation, the 25kts required full rudder and that's consistent with other observations.

  • @PilotTyler
    @PilotTyler 7 років тому +1

    Awesome video man

  • @tjjohnson4185
    @tjjohnson4185 6 років тому

    I really enjoyed the video. I was wondering though, it looks like your flap deflection is asymmetrical. Is the right flap really deployed more (rigging issue), or is that an optical illusion?

    • @MikeVictorAviation
      @MikeVictorAviation  6 років тому +1

      Are you referencing the ailerons for your assumption? This is probably an illusion. When the ailerons are not neutral (most of the time in the video), the "gaps" between the aileron and flaps are different on both sides. This might trick you here. The flaps are perfectly symmetrical.

  • @thomasjoas6000
    @thomasjoas6000 7 років тому

    Sehr schönes Video, sehr informativ! War der Flug am Samstag 04.03.2017? Da herrschten ja im gesamten Nord-Alpengebiet extremste Wetterkonditionen. Am Patscherkofel in Innsbruck wurden 160 km/h gemeldet.

    • @MikeVictorAviation
      @MikeVictorAviation  7 років тому

      Samstag ist korrekt. In Innsbruck waren bis zu 40kts vorhergesagt.

  • @patricepnc
    @patricepnc 7 років тому

    tks for all these wonderfull videos ! one question, you prefer the slip approach instead of crab then on final debrabbing and stick into the wind. is there a reason for that ? tks

    • @MikeVictorAviation
      @MikeVictorAviation  7 років тому

      Thank you for watching! This is how I learned it. As soon as I'm on final, I turn the nose towards the runway with the rudder and maintain centerline with the ailerons to establish a stable approach all the way to the runway. I know that airliners do it differently. Here, with the extreme xw, from my point of view it makes especially sense, to determine early during the approach whether the rudder is able to counteract the xw at all. If not, one can cancel the approach early.

    • @patricepnc
      @patricepnc 7 років тому +1

      guess there are pros and cons to both, if slip is not efficient from aerodynamic standpoint i guess that it allows indeed some stability during the approach and crabbing requires slipping before landing which may be more tricky when strong crosswind in as plane may slide during flare. i have learned the crabbing approach only but will try next time the slipping ! congrats again for these videos and dont stop there :)

  • @Garbelli100
    @Garbelli100 6 років тому +1

    hi good video did you know there is a cover engine mod by lopresti you gain 10-15 kt and less fuel for mile by

    • @MikeVictorAviation
      @MikeVictorAviation  6 років тому

      Thanks. I know all the LASAR mods. I didn't know about the lopresti mod.

  • @eugenesuhanov104
    @eugenesuhanov104 7 років тому +1

    Awesome video! What app is that? Garmin Pilot by any chance?

    • @MikeVictorAviation
      @MikeVictorAviation  7 років тому

      Thanks. Yes, Garmin Pilot. It's connected to the GTX345 via Bluetooth and shows ADS-B traffic, AHRS, and pressure altitude. Unfortunatelly ADS-B is not and will not be mandatory for small aircraft in the near future.

    • @eugenesuhanov104
      @eugenesuhanov104 7 років тому

      I use Skydemon for flying in Europe, i was always under the impression that Garmin pilot is quite behind in everything regarding VFR flying in Europe. Do you think the Garmin pilot is a decent app for flying in Europe? i am talking only about VFR.

    • @MikeVictorAviation
      @MikeVictorAviation  7 років тому +1

      GP was pretty rudimentary until about half a year ago. Since then, many
      updated enhanced the app in many ways. You can do flightplanning,
      W&B, file flightplans (currently VFR only, IFR is said to come),
      hack in your aircraft's performance data and pick the most economic
      altitude based on winds aloft forcasts. In Europe you can do in-app
      purchases to get VFR and IFR charts (DFS, ...), safe-taxi, and so on.
      You can use the publicly available flight charts (not including VFR
      approach charts in some countries, eg Germany) from Eurocontrol of every
      memberstate (25€ per year) or use your Jepp account.
      I personally use the basic subscription for 150€/a + safe-taxi for 25€/a + flight charts 25€/a (airport diagrams, instrument approaches, STARs, SIDs, ...). I do not use any VFR or IFR charts subscriptions, since the airport, airspace, terrain, and airway data is included.

    • @eugenesuhanov104
      @eugenesuhanov104 7 років тому +1

      It does sound like they improved their product, i might give it a try after all :) thanks for the short review and keep the awesome videos going man!

    • @swish6143
      @swish6143 6 років тому

      Also tested Garmin Pilot, but it doesn't have traffic patterns and for VFR approach charts in Europe you need the Jeppesen subscription and the VFR charts for each country. So we went with Skydemon, which has a much better native chart layout. For IFR the avionics are sufficient anyway. When you can connect it to the cockpit to show traffic and AHRS, different story though.

  • @michahebtab5157
    @michahebtab5157 3 роки тому +1

    Super Video... viele Grüße vom Kanal „Micha hebt ab - unterwegs mit der D-ECEL“ aus EDTD :-)

  • @benedikt5974
    @benedikt5974 7 років тому

    How do you find your private flight on flightradar24? I can only find scheduled commercial flights there.

    • @MikeVictorAviation
      @MikeVictorAviation  7 років тому

      Your aircraft has to be ADS-B OUT equipped, since Eurocontrol and the
      national agencies do not provide radar (mode-S) data to the public.
      ADS-B can be detected by anybody with cheap USB adapters.
      The FAA for example makes radar data publicly available. Therefore non-ADS-B OUT aircraft can be seen on FR24 and FA as well.

    • @MikeVictorAviation
      @MikeVictorAviation  7 років тому +1

      Your aircraft has to be ADS-B OUT equipped, since Eurocontrol and the
      national agencies do not provide radar (mode-S) data to the public.
      ADS-B can be detected by anybody with cheap USB adapters.
      The FAA for example makes radar data publicly available. Therefore, non-ADS-B OUT aircraft can be seen on FR24 and FA as well.

  • @peredavi
    @peredavi 6 років тому

    Personally, I don't think the outside camera position is very good viewpoint. Wingroot or wingtip area is better. imo