As someone who's been driving a base model car from 2010 for the past 12 years, I have a very different perspective. I was very impressed with this car most of the way through the video. Almost every complaint he has either didn't register to me as a problem at all or I just don't care about. Plastic panels? My car has worse. Gotta press a button to unlock? Honestly that's how I prefer it. Heated and ventilated seats in front and back is awesome, you almost never see that. A terrible UI in the car? It has Android Auto, and a backup camera, so it's already a massive upgrade over what I got. Honestly this video sold me on this car as a good budget option, with no real significant downsides (for me), until he said it cost $50,000. I was assuming this was a budget car so it was more affordable. Suddenly those minor nitpicks and complaints seem more reasonable for such an expensive car.
I can totally understand that perspective when comparing it feature-wise to something that old. Anything from 2024 is going to be a massive upgrade compared to what you have. The problem is that, when you are looking at a new car, you need to try and remember to compare it to what else is available on the market. There are much better options for an EV in this price bracket (Ioniq 5, EV6, Polestar 2, etc), which is what he was getting at. That's just something to be aware of, because just thinking "it's better than what I have now" is an easy way to wind up with something that, while it is an improvement over what you have, is a bad deal or even a bad product in terms of the market in general.
I worked at Vinfast’s first NA store and god it had its issues. It’s improved a lot though, I test drove it a couple months back. Although the price point at face value is pretty high, you could lease it for like 250 a month which is crazy
Taking notes: 1) Software is horrible, annoying, obsolete design, 2) Vegan seats' upholstery is bad quality 3) Noisy vents 4) low-framed cameras (old tech) 5) acceleration slow responsive 6) heavier than the competition 7) driving dynamics stinks (not funny driving) 8) Worst car ever tested (EV) 9) Too expensive for the kind of manure (better buy a second hand Tesla, KIA, or Hyundai) Tomorrow its stonks will plunge faster than Niagara falls.
Having just spent 5 weeks in Vietnam and just about to leave, I've seen so many of these! They've even got the VinBus and Vinfast scooters that look gorgeous. there's a Vinfast taxi company here who use the bikes and cars exclusively. I believe they've even got a charging network.
@@shortazn97they actually stop producing ICE. they are trying to be a big ev, software In Auto is still bad. but at least its improving. everything seems to be homegrown software and not borrowed patterned. so, give it time. they still don't have proper design language for the software.
The same event or object can be evaluated differently by different people; some may judge it as A while others may judge it as B. There are those who may love it, and those who may hate it. We should respect all opinions and evaluations. Whether it is right or wrong, it will surely contribute to making something better.
that fan blowing might be a feature some cars have of blowing air through the vents after you lock your car, to prevent moisture and any growth. my new hyundai has it too, sometimes i come back into the car after a quick errand and the fans are still going. vinfast is from vietnam where it’s pretty humid so it might be that!
I was just going to say that. After being in a humid climate I would have appreciated that feature in a car. Get that nasty wet air out so it does not make the car stink over time. In Vietnam I can totally see where this would not be optional.
That doesn’t make sense. Cool air-conditioned air is dry (very low humidity). If you’re gonna blow air from outside, you’re gonna fill it with humid air. Given that the cabin is still cold right after you stop the car, what you’ll get is condensation inside your cabin. You might be right about ventilating new air into the cabin to avoid smell but it definitely does not remove moisture
I've actually driven this car, unlike most of the commenters who I suspect are regurgitating other content creators' opinions, and I gotta agree with you. No, it's not exceptional in any sense of the word, but it's... fine. Certainly it's not the utter disaster some commenters seem to believe it is, at least. It's a mediocre transportation appliance whose biggest flaw is the asking price relative to the competition-- at $30-35k it would actually measure up. But if I bought (or more likely, leased) this car and gave it to my mom to replace her aging CRV, she would drive it without complaint, with the one wildcard being reliability of course.
Excellent points! I think it's prob low standard for the EVs in that price range...but it's still prob superior experience to a ICE competitor. Price it lower VinFast...make it a disruptor and then you will start selling!
We have VFe34 and VF8 ( base and lux ) here, Vietnam in Xanh SM ( Uber - like app ) , it works well. I would say it takes time to see the quality, but the frame is great😂, i saw lots of car crashes and VF8 hold it well.
11:46 Marques, what you just complained about was a lack of "Hill Assist", not bad "Creep Mode" All creep mode means is the car moves slowly without you needing to press the gas pedal, not that it will stop your car from free-rolling on hills.
The problem is, there's a delay in creep mode. when you let go of the brake pedal it takes a second for the creep to kick in, while you are rolling down a hill. Where this is most annoying is parallel parking on a hill. (In other cars you can hit the accelerator and break at the same time, but when the brake pedal is pushed the accelerator is canceled out.) This can get very annoying.
The not being able to put the vehicle in gear without being buckled up is something I experienced with a Chevy truck that I rented from U-Haul. I can see it as an additional safety measure, especially in countries that require you to wear your seatbelt.
AFAIK, creep mode is supposed to control whether or not the car creeps forward, not prevent you from rolling backward. Not that it's not something that shouldn't even happen in the first place in an EV.
Up graded frt and rear suspension better ride . Less noise New battery pack, new chemistry New motors 402 HP on plus trim New interior door design , better handles Upgrade to sound system Software update 13 address too many to name improvements. Better throttle response Better range and charging battery pre heat improvements Find my car improvements Pet mode while charging
I got a 2023 vinfast vf8 plus on dec 26 of last year. I can say the software is a bit buggy but this car isnt as bad as most yt reviewers put it out to be. Its been 4 months now and we are quite happy with it, other than the software where we update it at the dealer every 3 months to keep it work most efficient. There is a 10 years warranty so i trust. Definitely worth 65k canadian dollars.
Congrats! It is good to see a Canadian owner’s comment (I’m from Calgary, AB). Why did you purchased VF8? What do you think about Model Y? I have no BEV yet, but after many years I think Tesla still has no competition and if I’m going to buy something, I’m 100% sure about it it will be a Model 3 or a Model Y (and NOT a Leaf, NOT a Mach-E, NOT a Bolt, NOTHING from Hyundai/KIA).
I got one at a special discount 2023 model for 38k......the plus version. Plus super low interest rate. At that price I think it's worth the quirks. Some of these things will improve with software
Loud beeping noise should be sufficient. At best a speed limit. Saw a vid recently where a lady couldn't get her car off the train track. Old lady. People weren't sure if it was because she was clueless in general, or couldn't get the car moving in a panic because one of these BS features. In general, bricking the car is a stupid, stupid idea. Sensors can be wrong, it can be bypassed, it can be faulty, and it introduces a MASSIVE liability for the manufacturer should a critical situation arise. Imagine driving a loved one to a hospital, but something was off with the sensor, and the car would not start. Not something you want to ever potentially happen. Technology and developers have taken a very concerning "I know it all" approach. Louis Rossman even describe it as a "rapist mentality". Controls are taken from the user, options are slowly stripping, with any edge cases the developers did not anticipate becoming a royal pain to the end user. Just not a good trend in general. Rules and regulations are written in blood, because people did not anticipate everything that could happen, until it happens. Developers playing god, making decisions as if they're omniscient, is not something to celebrate.
But quite a bit less compelling if you need to buckle up to just move the car from one place to another that's close enough that buckling up to do it makes you seem genuinely crazy. "But my car won't let me drive it at all otherwise!" Right.
Except the car is a death trap according to an ex JLR chassis engineer who worked on it after it was designed and was fired for whistle blowing because Vinfast didn't want to take his advice and redesign the faulty components and re-engineer the suspension.
I actually really like the display. It's simple and easy to use. I don't want to have to dig through layers of things to find a basic setting. The AC vents are fantastic compared to Tesla. Also from what I can see the panels actually line up which seems like an expectation thing.....but Elon still can't figure it out. Honestly, if I could afford a car and my choice was between this and the Model Y.....I'll take the VinFast
I would never buy a Vinfast in it's current state. But compared to Fisker, I respect the effort they went through to try and rapidly address some of the issues like suspension. That they would go so far as to implement hardware changes and retrofits, not just software updates, I think speaks to how hard they're trying. Could have saved themselves a lot of headache with more testing, but there's still something commendable in the company. Hope they learn from this and their future launches are more compelling.
Great feedback… what I am hearing is that there are a lot of good things, but need some work on the software. Would never get a model Y as I am not a fan of the shape of the Tesla materials. I love the semblance of a regular gas vehicle as my only need for an EV is the drive train. Not sure why manufacturers are putting so much Tech in EVs because Tesla started that crap. I just needed a regular car with an Electric drive train, normal door handles etc. I like this VF8 car
@trungkn I work for this company in Functional Safety. This is the issue that has not been resolved for months, due to completely clueless controls design and Functional Safety mitigation. Ask me anything, there is plenty to share.
@gamelihlencube2128 I work for this company in Functional Safety. This is the issue that has not been resolved for months, due to completely clueless controls design and Functional Safety mitigation. Ask me anything, there is plenty to share.
have had 4 tesla. got vf8 for cheap 9k 3 years lease. Been driving it everywhere really enjoy it! first 3 days was hard but you get use to it. Alot of people ask what it is and it looks really good at night with Led V strips. Feels nice being in something no one else is in also. UI sucks , And tesla drivetrain is better but i thoroughly look forward to driving the car over the model y. Model y suspension is unforgiving to passengers.
Yeah. I'm not quite sure about why he was considering that a negative. I think a widget based home screen makes perfect sense and is quite functional. What he was showing didn't look cartoony to me.
@@aptwo916Because you aren’t supposed to play with your phone while driving? Sure, you can always mount your phone, but that kind of defeats the point of the push for big touch screens in cars.
@@aptwo916 Can’t help but wonder … do you own a car? Your question doesn’t make sense. I’m wondering if you’re asking it because you’re unfamiliar with cars.
I agree, it’s not a Model Y competitor, however, I pay $550 for my model Y and I gave $7500 down, plus the $7500 rebate. I also have this car and I pay $221 a month, with no money down, zero out of pocket, that’s a bargain.
Wow, video này thực sự là một trải nghiệm chi tiết về Vinfast VF8! Rất thích cách bạn phân tích từng khía cạnh của xe, từ thiết kế, tính năng đến trải nghiệm lái, thậm chí những chi tiết nhỏ như cảm giác nhựa trên tay nắm cửa và màn hình HUD. Một bài học rút ra quan trọng là khi mua một chiếc xe điện, trải nghiệm và khả năng thích ứng của xe trong cuộc sống hàng ngày mới thực sự quan trọng, hơn cả việc chỉ sở hữu một sản phẩm mới. Cảm ơn bạn vì đã thực hiện video này - thực sự bổ ích và giúp mình hiểu thêm rất nhiều về VF8. Chờ đợi thêm những đánh giá tuyệt vời từ bạn!
I will go out on a limb and say many (not all) Vietnamese people are bad at naming and branding. For example, 'Vina' is a common prefix in brand names here, from big brands to small ones. It's fine most of the time. VinFast, on the other hand, I can picture the Chairman/CEO, or someone high up, in his office, thinking Vin for Vingroup (the parent company), and Fast because it's a car brand, and going 'aha!', while mispronouncing it as Vin-Phat. They justify it by saying VinFast is actually an acronym but I believe it's a backronym, because most of Vingroup's companies all have 'Vin' in front of it, like VinBigData, VinUniversity, VinSchool, VinFa. I've mentioned it to my (Vietnamese) friends, and they seemingly can't understand why I see it as a problem when it comes to branding and pronunciation.
The funniest thing is that they keep naming their car vf something like so it's a vinfast vinfast 8. At least some of the car name here make sense and doesn't sound stupid when you say it out loud
My family work for Vin and they force their employees to buy 2 vinfast per employees’ family 😂 nobody buys this overpriced trash so they have to keep forcin. The only Vinfast car runs on the streets are either owned by Vin employees or VF Taxi brand. No real demand so they have to resort to these cheap trick to push sales or create demand by creating a Taxi company 😂
He seriously seems like a Tesla sheel at this point. It's a shame that Fisker didn't solidify their software before delivery, but way back Tesla also launched with software issues and have a terrible maintenance record. How's that fsd working out? In this context the cybertruck review seemed incredibly generous. As for a reason to choose this car over a model y? Elon fing Musk, end of story. The real question is why take a model y over any of the other great competitors?
@@IdleNomad The reality is its impossible to not recommend Tesla over anything else. Literally no one has given the VF8 a good review ... as for the other competitors, the reality is while Tesla's cars are only so-so compared to some competitors, the Supercharger network is still an order of magnitude better than any competitor. That's why I ended up buying a Model Y even though it was my least favorite of the 7 cars I tested. A competitor could be half the price, be made of wood and leather, massage me and dispense caviar; none of that matters if your battery is dead and the only working EA charger is stuck at
Absolutely... I don't really know why we always look at plastic interior as something cheap If so then Teslas are fucking crap man My model 3 is hella cheap in the interior
@@dimamelihov6434 I think the issue's not plastic, but cheap-looking plastic. And his main complaint wasn't really the plastic, but the cheap-looking vegan leather everywhere.
One thing I have noticed about these VF8 reviews on various channels........many reviewers panned it, some were optimistic. Same ratio for commenters. However, basically ALL of the commenters who actually purchased and driven them were very happy with it. And I would say those should carry the most weight! Its hard to find a buyer who has any regrets so far
The widget customization and HUD is actually a nice touch, plus the heated and cooled front and rear seats. Tesla should take notes for sure with those options.
As a Vietnamese whose relatives owned a VF9 and I just got a ride in that car this very afternoon, I can tell you that the software is desperately in need of an massive overhaul to say the least, while all it seem nice and shiny, the icon and some buttons are just in a counter-intuitive placement once you start using it, and don't even get me started about the confusing messages and error icons popped up everywhere on the display when there's a problem. Sure they have customer support on their app, but it's still can't deny the fact that the software put up an incorrect errors messages which make thing that much harder to searching for the real problems. Anyways, yes, the company is still young, so give them time, they already short on customers who made the switch so I imagined this would take long, but I still hoped for the best for them though, since they are the pioneer force of EV in Vietnam right now.
My family work for Vin and they force their employees to buy 2 vinfast per employees’ family 😂 nobody buys this overpriced trash so they have to keep forcin. The only Vinfast car runs on the streets are either owned by Vin employees or VF Taxi brand. No real demand so they have to resort to these cheap trick to push sales or create demand by creating a Taxi company 😂
Physical buttons. That's the number one reason I can think of for buying this car. Also, nice amenities with the seats. That's a pretty important amenity set. Heated AND cooled, front AND rear? Ten years ago, that was Rolls Royce options territory. Ten years from now, it'll probably be standard on EVERY car down to the MItsubishi Mirage.
The only physical buttons on this car are window switches, hazards, and volume knob (with integrated power button). Everything else is through the center screen. Not sure what you mean by that.
Our neighbor has one but I have yet to ride in one. Seems like a polished car from the outside, panel gap and finishing wise. Also, it’s nice to get EV options from other regions such as Asia (Vinfast is a Vietnamese automaker) because what we truly need in the US are the Chinese EV options to ramp up competition.
It’s so unfortunate for the States where Chinese EV could not be sold there, and every other country can enjoy these high-quality and low-cost Chinese EV. I have an atto 3 in Europe. It’s really an amazing product. It‘s so pleasant to drive.
“Shocking similarities with the Fisker”, the problem with that statement is that the VinFast doesn’t have any solar roof panel, the size is similar however it’s very subjective. The whole idea of “depreciative flagship” just because of the apps and the UI, again very subjective, guess what MKBHD it’s not a Tesla, other Automotive OEMS are going to have its own UI and icons are different. Maybe you should contact the VinFast CEO and have an interview with her and tell her your concerns on how the UI and icons can be updated instead of a four year old Android tablet and overall brand can be better instead of just bashing the brand. I do agree that the camera frame rate is not great but compared to the Mustang Mach E, Vinfast is better. I think that also you mentioned the different Drive Modes and how the vehicle can’t build up instantaneous torque it’s because the EV weighs 5600 lbs and the composite of steel and aluminum so it would seem it’s very top heavy and as a result takes sacrifice on performance but makes up in safety, some people would be ok with that. I think the Vegan Leather looks good, maybe the placement of the leather in front of the steering wheel seems odd but at least it’s not like a cookie cutter sterile Tesla interior and has a little character. Also at 13:31 you mentioned you would take the VinFast VF8, compared to what??
As an EV owner, as fun as the instant torque is, I've learned that it isn't a feeling everyone enjoys. Especially people who don't regularly drive EVs. I can see why a new company would want to garner more new customers by making the car feel more familiar.
That makes no sense in sport mode, though. It should be an option, because instant torque can literally save your life. For example, you're in an intersection and you see a car who ran a red light barreling toward you. With instant torque, you escape unscathed. With delay, you get T-boned at 55 mph, roll over, and either get seriously injured or maybe even die.
That instant torque is also hard on motor ,every Model Y owner i watched allready had motor replaced after just 2 years,ok is in warranty so payed 0 but what when warranty expires
I live in NC near where the factory is. Really want them to succeed to help the local area but sounds like the writing is on the wall for their long term success
Rooms if improvement are not a sentence to death however trying to ignore them is. I just hope Vinfast is young enough to respond the feedbacks to stay on the game.
His review of this and the Fisker aren't as bad as he initially made them sound. Plenty of flaws and reasons to go with the competition, which is a big deal and might be enough for them to fail, but it's not like they are terrible cars. The flaws mentioned can be corrected over the coming years, if not sooner.
I just did a test drive of the VF eight 2024 I’ve just driven a whole bunch of EV’s in the last two weeks and because of where this sits on its lease price and then your buyout if you do wanna buy it, I think I’m gonna go for this car I Gotta say my comparison and really reality is my ford Cmax that I drive all the time the other cars that are the competitors because the lease price is so good on this. They really aren’t competitors right now. This is the cheapest car and I like it the things that he’s complain about in this I don’t have any considerations or concerns with it. It’s not an issue for me so I don’t have a problem I think if, it’s convinced me that he drives way fancier cars than I’ve ever driven and for me to be the first electric to get into my house. This is the right price range for me with the lease option that they have and I think I’m gonna go for it.
Low initial commitment for new tech that depreciates like a meteor...they might be on to something. Why would you waste your money on a $70k Tesla that will be worth $35k within 3 years?
I picked up my 2023 VF8 Plus at a Vinfast dealership about over 3 weeks ago, and the lot was full of VF8 units. Two days ago I drove my VF8 past the dealership, on my way to work and the lot was totally empty. Curiously, I didn't know what was going on. I stopped by and asked them if they were moving. They told me that they had had no VF8 left and were waiting for the new batch to come. About 100 Vinfast VF8s flew off the lot like hot cakes! Unbelievable! Thanks to Marques for the Vinfast review!
I've hated the trend in UI (particularly championed by Tesla) to make EVERYTHING different shades of gray. It is incredibly un-intuitive especially when driving. Colours may look "clownish", but they let you determine what you're looking at quickly without the need to focus on it. Some egregious examples in our Tesla: Is Bluetooth connected? Light gray for 'on', Very light gray for 'off'. (could easily put a blue oval behind the icon for 'on') Is a button toggled on, off or is it disabled? All 3 button states are just different shades of gray. On the map, water is gray, land is light gray, buildings are very light gray. The screen can display millions of colours, but the only colour being used is gray. I'll take the clown show any day.
@@tonyn3227 Let tesla know that not everyone sees things the same and a few contrast level selections are needed. Requests like this are answered on X. "I will pass it on the the UI team" or such.
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Yes, I prefer having colours too, but the way Vinfast are doing it lacks consistency.
I love this car. The aesthetic of modern car that happens to be an EV is very much preferred to the blatant EV design that many auto manufacturers decide to go with.
It goes to show, American innovation is still king. All the other companies can try to copy but the software experience is going to be the differentiating factor. Props to Vietnam for building a car (that's a good sign for any country to do), but price it competitively!
Yeah, but, as a customer I care about the product I am buying, not the one reviewers got months ago (for better or worse). Of course that should teach manufacturers a lesson not to release unfinished products, but still. If they have fixed it by the time I buy the product, great. All the issues there were and that may have lowered the price are gone.
@@WHALEx3you know that the software version he tested was given to actual customers right? There was not pre-production software it was just not their latest update. Which was perfectly valid for him to test so don't make excuses for them. I hate to say it, but in this day and age if you can't get the software right on a car, you have no business making the car.
One has to admire the motivation of the major stockholder of this company, Mr. Pham when he recently commented, "If it were just for business and making money, the Vingroup leadership would not be foolish enough to dive into a difficult field like car manufacturing, but Vingroup decided to create VinFast out of social responsibility and patriotism." However, things have not been going as planned as VinFast has made some serious market miscalculations that have resulted in over 5 billion dollars of losses in the last few years. They need to engineer a small range extender into the car to remove range anxiety and lower its cost and its 3-ton weight… I hope they survive…
Currently waiting for my VF8 Eco on order, test drove one and will say the software can get buggy, but every issue is always fixed QUICKLY. As a viet I'm proud of where VinFast is at right now.
I don't think so, all Vingroup products have problems and the most important thing, all of those products are not cheap, even though they are made in Vietnam.
Starts at $34500 in Vietnam - much more competitive than imported to USA. I think it is a good option there. Software could be updated in post to a degree. In USA Ioniq seems like a better option.
If they would put blinkers in there I would agree with you. But the blinkers are very unreliable, and you need to check the center screen to double-check if they're on. When you're checking your blind spot, mirror, in front of you, and behind you, to do a lane change, the last thing you want to do is look at your middle screen as well to make sure your blinker is on.
as a Vietnamese, seeing our country made product is being reviewed by one of the biggest tech UA-camr on the planet right now is such a privilege. Thank you for all your feedback and I hope that Vinfast would take this seriously to improve the car in its future models like they did with the one that Donut reviewed
Honestly this seems way more fine to use and drive than the Fisker. Most people don't really need a sporty fast car. I don't see many major issues, even the beeping is pretty normal nowadays from what I can tell.
the buckle up with parking brake is actually nice, some people dont buckle up so I guess its a way to make people do it. Might be annoying but only if you do not practice safe driving which includes buckle up each time.
I’m seeing this thing advertised for a lease at $199/month. Which is kinda attractive just to get around to work and back and maybe to the store. I spend more than that on gas alone! I would also consider leasing this for like my son who just started college and a part time job!
@@JacksonKillroy I think Auto Focus is a little unique, though. I’ll bet there are a lot of people who follow tech channels but don’t follow car channels… except this one, because they trust Marques and have found value in his other reviews.
TBH... if the software is "bad" because you don't like the graphics then LOL. It didn't seem that bad and compared to VW EV's or just older cars in general, it's good. In the end most of the usage of the screen will be setting the music, HVAC and navigation (usually being google maps). If it does these things well, it's good enough and everything else is just a plus. It really is unfortunate though that this is the state of automotive software that it being functional is "good", kind of frustrating. The framerate of cameras is eh, but at the same time it does not matter that much. About driving though, that does matter - safety aids should not be annoying and the driver should feel confident driving the car at least somewhat sportily at 50K. One more thing - Tesla not including a HUD is a travesty, I have not heard of a single customer or a reviewer not wishing for it, at best they will settle, but if this was an option priced around 1K or even more, most buyers would option for a HUD. It really surprises me that Tesla did not add it in the refresh as it would remove the last nag from customers. At least there are after market solutions.
That's the vf9, the 55k price tag was when it was first introduced as a concept/pre-prod car back in 2021, not final price. It's still not here in the US yet but was released in Vietnam last year 2023. I heard they'll sell it here mid year. If the price is still 79k it's gonna be a tough fight for them.
It's back. Actually cheaper. If you ask for it in person at the dealership in CA, they have new 2023 VF8 "City" Plus's for $199/mo and VF8 City Eco's for $149/mo. Basically they took the remaining 2023 new inventory, shipped it to Vietnam to update the computers and swap in the new 2024 suspension; then sent them back to USA. Slightly lower range than the 2024 models but a killer deal. My 2023 Black-on-White VF8 Plus is arriving next week.
It is clear that this car is not a flagship level and that is why they have marked it at a lower price. First time ever I felt that Marques was more pessimistic about a product. I found most of the things fine which Marques mentioned as spoiler alert. I was considering a price and being a new company. I appreciate the effort by VF for a low cost car.
The low frame rate on the camera does 2 things, it's clearer in dark environments because of low frame rate, the sensor has more time to gather light, and the biggest one is it discourages you from relying on it to drive. A backup camera is an aid to help keep you from bumping stuff, you're not supposed to stare at it while backing up, you're supposed to use your mirrors like "back in the day"
I would love to hear a Wave Form deep dive into vinFast the company. I have heard of them but they were founded just over 6 years ago. And that includes covid time. How did they do it? There has to be more to the story
Oh it comes from the Vin company which founded years ago before VinFast. Back then they specialize in housing so they got lots of capital, as well as they currently get approvement from the government.
As a new product of a new car company, VinFast always tries to bring the best to car buyers. According to those who have bought VF8, very few people complain about the quality of the car, it's just that the software is not yet complete. If you come to Vietnam, you will see VinFast cars running on the road a lot with cheaper costs than other famous car companies. Of course, a new product from a young company needs time to prove itself, but VinFast has been trying to do the best they can. I still love VinFast ❤
@@Rapido20 Absolutely not. You watch. Ford is $12 and that's the highest it's been in years. Now in TSLA case, it's been more than a YEAR that stock has tanked by $130 per share and even with Model Y, Semi, 3 refresh and Cyber it has not budged - that's the stock you should be worried about. Thankfully I took a ride in the roadster 15 years ago and bought stupid early so I'm still ahead, but on paper lost mucho. 👁🗨
I come back here when heard that abt 80% of comments here are positive for VF. Actually not 80%, but many. I think that is good sign for a good newcoming ev brand. They will go faster than almost people think. If they can control their expanding, i think that's good for them, and for all consumers.
Dear Marques I feel that you are a very famous person, very much loved by everyone. Why is that? Because first and foremost, you are an honest and good person. That is what has helped you achieve the high success you have today. I really like you. I seriously suggest you do one thing: borrow this VF8 car and the Fisker, and drive each one for a week. Learn all about the features that the manufacturer has provided. Then do a very detailed review of the technical aspects of the car. Lately, I have been disappointed to see that the so-called car review channels do not know how to start the car (Donut), do not know the car's specifications, and the car is forced to have a seatbelt and is considered a fault. Users know that very well. Reviewers can say that they didn't know the first time, but the second time, viewers will judge the car reviewers themselves. And one more request, please don't use the standards of a $100,000 car to compare with a $50,000 car. I sincerely thank you. Sincerely, Olama
@@inouehiroyukiIt has all options other car has, even more. Please check out it manual. One important thing, it heavier than any car with the same price, the body frame too safe. Many accident between VF8 with Container, truck, kia, huyndai, toyota, mescedes. VF8 almost crushed them. air bags in all cases. Do you want photo and video, I can show you. Heavier is safer, not cheaper quality, please understand. And do not tell me you want to compare the weight with the hyper car with carbon frame
It has a ln outstanding waranty policy 10 years bumper to bumper, 125,000 miles, unlimited miles for battery. How about Tesla or Huyndai, just 4 or 5 years. This brand appears will change the game on the car market. Believe me, it is not just a normal start-up ev company like Fisker or Lucid. It has e-bus, scooter, bike, line of sizes SUV, mini, pick-up. And it is trying spread over the world. Now with the lowest stock price, it is still the third EV maker by market cap after Tesla and Xpeng. Future will be more fun to see 😮
The car is so dogshit that's why they have to have something sound good to back it up as you said warranty. If it sounds so fucking good, then why don't people in Vietnam buy it? And why are the majority of them used as taxis? The stock price is a clear example of a rug pull, with VinFast pulling the rug on their investors, dropping from 68 to 5. It's literally a crypto rug pull. Unfortunately, attempting to expand globally doesn't guarantee acceptance, my friend. It's still a shit car.
I have tested driven VF8 already. It is pretty good. It is heavy and it is safe in terms of accident. Plus 10 years warranty and 125,000 miles warranty. Can't beat that. I haven't tested their autopilot yet, but I see other reviewers love their autopilot. Therefore, I might consider buying this car due to its 10 years warranty and bumper to bumper. Before we compare to other EV, we must also compare the warranty. Buying a car with 10 years warranty is the same price as buying cars with 4-5 years warranty. I rather buy cars with 10 years warranty to feel more safe.
@@VietNguyen-bq8xv Any company can go bankrupt bro. You worry too much. Even your house can go bankrupt, and you will lose hundreds of thousands of dollars. Cars cost lesser than 55K. Rest assure bro.
I'm sorry but the fob NOT having proximity unlock is a feature for me... Not a bug. I'm not out here trying to get my car stolen through the simplest signal repeater attack. Pressing a single button isn't a significant barrier
Opening the door and starting the car are two wildly different things. A signal repeater isn’t going to be able to simulate the fob being inside the car consistently for them to start it and drive off. 🤦 some people don’t think
@@pablojams5152 so in theory you're correct. But effectively the car only checks if it thinks the key is in the car for both those actions at the moment you press the button. And also there are loads of entry points to plug something in once you're inside the car. So in the real world you're very wrong. They drive off with your car with just a dumb signal repeater 15s in your driveway...
@@pablojams5152 yeah it depends on the car but mostly it depends on it's age. very very recent cars have much more realistic security than even slightly older ones. there's no specific regulation for this and the companies basically assumed security by ignorance would work every time a new feature is introduced. like first generation of press button on your fob to unlock had a simple non encrypted key that it sent identically every time. now it's all rolling single use encrypted key. proximity based fobs are generally caught up for a brand new car. but I don't see it as a benefit so I would rather not have this additional hackable entry point on my car. every form of security grows obsolete...
I think what you are missing: you can lease that car for just $250 a month. Including a 10 year warranty that will replace every part for free (as long as it is not your fault). They are doing onside service at your location. For 250 a month for a 3 year lease! A Model Y would cost me more than double.
As a Vietnamese, It's unreal to see a Vietnamese car company making it to MKBHD's channel. I'm filled with pride. The car is definitely not perfect right now, but I believe that its parent company Vingroup has more than enough money to improve it in the future. Thank you for the video and I hope that you'll revisit this car a year from now to see all the improvements.
Automobile industry is cut throat and has very high upfront costs. Vinfast is backed by Vingroup but it is still a very small player when compared to Tesla, let alone big players like VW and Toyota. I really hope that Vinfast will succeed too, it will put Vietnam on the map and hopefully our arts and culture will become more known to the Anglosphere. We have a lot to offer. I’m not currently in the market for a car right now, but when I am, will seriously consider a VF. But for now, I’m not satisfied with the current charging infrastructure enough to purchase a full EV.
I picked up my 2023 VF8 Plus at a Vinfast dealership about over 3 weeks ago, and the lot was full of VF8 units. Two days ago I drove my VF8 past the dealership, on my way to work and the lot was totally empty. Curiously, I didn't know what was going on. I stopped by and asked them if they were moving. They told me that they had had no VF8 left and were waiting for the new batch to come. About 100 Vinfast VF8s flew off the lot like hot cakes! Unbelievable! Thanks to Marques for the Vinfast review!
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I liked it. Some of the quirks would be annoying over time, but I feel like some of this is overly critical. Especially with the infotainment. It looks fine to me. Not amazing, not bad, but fine. The design doesn't look 'cartoonish' to me as described. Many newer vehicles are removing color from icons and throughout the infotainment. Doesn't make them look more premium. To me anyway. I'd personally still prefer this over a Tesla's design and aesthetics.
I was optimistic about Vinfast and I think there's potential, but like you mentioned, the driving dynamics aren't there. Comparing this to an EV6 or Ioniq 5, which can be had for basically the same price and are quicker, handle better, charge faster, and have longer range, it's hard to consider this... And tech is decent in those as well (especally when the new ccNC infotainment rolls out for the refreshes this year).
Ive considered those as well when evaluating comparable. But where I am, the total final price the Vinfast comes in notacibly less expensive when you add in all the features and options that the plus version gives you. And that doesnt even factor in 10 year bumper to bumper warranty. Try selling the KIA or Hyundai in 5 years, with no guarantees to your buyer instead of another 5 year guarantee no repair or replacement costs plus labour for a vehicle.
I don't know if you've ever driven a budget car recently, but this is waaaay better in every way. Honestly one of the best EVs I've ever seen reviewed??
“It’s not Tesla so it must be bad” attitude is disingenuous. These are start up companies entering the ev market, and frankly with a ton of unique designs features and most of all a clean fit and finish unlike *cough* teslas 🙄
I own one, I have had for over a month and I am loving it, you are full of it, I believe Tesla is paying you to downplay all foreign built cars( Vinfast, Fisker, and I own all of them and very happy )
I think creep mode is there to mimic diesel vehicles since their torque is high enough to keep the vehicle moving forward without pressing on acceleration. But not enough to keep ypu from rolling backwards on a hill.
The delay in torque. Marques, its prob to favor the chaotic traffic we have here in VN. Crossing bikes left right center up down. So that instant torque can slamm someone real hard if it is accidentally activated.
I got mine at a great deal and I really like this car. Drives great the soft ware is a bit laggy but if your using Apple car play none of that really matters. Overall it’s a great car if you can get it at a good price
The Fisker Ocean 2.0 OTA update resolved the major issues for me and introduced hill hold. If Fisker makes it to delivery of OTA 4.0 where the vehicle will be mostly feature complete, it will be a very good EV.
Marques is the grim reaper of EV startups at this point
😂
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I'm all for it. If the product is bad. Then he's helping people not throw money away.
Im glad he’s not a sellout and actually pointing out the cons on these expensive cars.
EVs are the grim reaper of EVs...
As someone who's been driving a base model car from 2010 for the past 12 years, I have a very different perspective. I was very impressed with this car most of the way through the video. Almost every complaint he has either didn't register to me as a problem at all or I just don't care about. Plastic panels? My car has worse. Gotta press a button to unlock? Honestly that's how I prefer it. Heated and ventilated seats in front and back is awesome, you almost never see that. A terrible UI in the car? It has Android Auto, and a backup camera, so it's already a massive upgrade over what I got.
Honestly this video sold me on this car as a good budget option, with no real significant downsides (for me), until he said it cost $50,000. I was assuming this was a budget car so it was more affordable. Suddenly those minor nitpicks and complaints seem more reasonable for such an expensive car.
I can totally understand that perspective when comparing it feature-wise to something that old. Anything from 2024 is going to be a massive upgrade compared to what you have. The problem is that, when you are looking at a new car, you need to try and remember to compare it to what else is available on the market. There are much better options for an EV in this price bracket (Ioniq 5, EV6, Polestar 2, etc), which is what he was getting at. That's just something to be aware of, because just thinking "it's better than what I have now" is an easy way to wind up with something that, while it is an improvement over what you have, is a bad deal or even a bad product in terms of the market in general.
I worked at Vinfast’s first NA store and god it had its issues. It’s improved a lot though, I test drove it a couple months back. Although the price point at face value is pretty high, you could lease it for like 250 a month which is crazy
That is because the compare is to similar car from the same time and type. If you would choose to buy a new EV around 40K-50K this actually matters.
If you do decide to purchase this vehicle, Best of luck!
You had me in the first half ngl
> The Vinfast VF8 is.... trying
"trying" can mean "making an attempt"... but it can also mean "testing one's patience"
I get the impression it's *very* trying ...
True 🤣
i thought the exact same thing from the title
I think that's intentional.
Taking notes:
1) Software is horrible, annoying, obsolete design,
2) Vegan seats' upholstery is bad quality
3) Noisy vents
4) low-framed cameras (old tech)
5) acceleration slow responsive
6) heavier than the competition
7) driving dynamics stinks (not funny driving)
8) Worst car ever tested (EV)
9) Too expensive for the kind of manure (better buy a second hand Tesla, KIA, or Hyundai)
Tomorrow its stonks will plunge faster than Niagara falls.
Having just spent 5 weeks in Vietnam and just about to leave, I've seen so many of these! They've even got the VinBus and Vinfast scooters that look gorgeous. there's a Vinfast taxi company here who use the bikes and cars exclusively. I believe they've even got a charging network.
most of those are actually gas cars haha. vinfast sells mostly gas cars in Vietnam as are most of the vf taxis
any source genius? lol@@shortazn97
@@shortazn97 You are wrong
@@shortazn97nah. They stop making and selling petro cars about 3 years ago. All those taxi cars are EV.
@@shortazn97they actually stop producing ICE. they are trying to be a big ev, software In Auto is still bad. but at least its improving. everything seems to be homegrown software and not borrowed patterned. so, give it time. they still don't have proper design language for the software.
The same event or object can be evaluated differently by different people; some may judge it as A while others may judge it as B. There are those who may love it, and those who may hate it. We should respect all opinions and evaluations. Whether it is right or wrong, it will surely contribute to making something better.
that fan blowing might be a feature some cars have of blowing air through the vents after you lock your car, to prevent moisture and any growth. my new hyundai has it too, sometimes i come back into the car after a quick errand and the fans are still going. vinfast is from vietnam where it’s pretty humid so it might be that!
I was just going to say that. After being in a humid climate I would have appreciated that feature in a car. Get that nasty wet air out so it does not make the car stink over time. In Vietnam I can totally see where this would not be optional.
@@LifeAfterLosing Would also be a useful feature here in Florida.
@@JustinDaniels absolutely!
That is what it is for.
That doesn’t make sense. Cool air-conditioned air is dry (very low humidity). If you’re gonna blow air from outside, you’re gonna fill it with humid air. Given that the cabin is still cold right after you stop the car, what you’ll get is condensation inside your cabin. You might be right about ventilating new air into the cabin to avoid smell but it definitely does not remove moisture
Marques out here desperately trying not to tank another company
(I'm kidding guys)
What company did he tank before?
@@SamHulseFisker 00:03
@@SamHulsethe fucks at fisker
side note - VIN group basically owns Vietnam. So it is a worthy challenge for Marques the startup killer!
@@daveiedFisker tanked Fisker
I've actually driven this car, unlike most of the commenters who I suspect are regurgitating other content creators' opinions, and I gotta agree with you. No, it's not exceptional in any sense of the word, but it's... fine. Certainly it's not the utter disaster some commenters seem to believe it is, at least. It's a mediocre transportation appliance whose biggest flaw is the asking price relative to the competition-- at $30-35k it would actually measure up. But if I bought (or more likely, leased) this car and gave it to my mom to replace her aging CRV, she would drive it without complaint, with the one wildcard being reliability of course.
The thing is a MY is like 37$ after rebates in the US right now… 44k before the rebates…
@@BrownChickenPro MY = Model Y? 37k$?
@@BrownChickenPro you can lease vf8 for $249/month, which is basically the price of a toyota corrolla.
So well put. Balanced!
Excellent points! I think it's prob low standard for the EVs in that price range...but it's still prob superior experience to a ICE competitor. Price it lower VinFast...make it a disruptor and then you will start selling!
After buying my first car with a HUD, I kind of want to only have cars with a HUD now. It's really nice.
I had HUD on my 1997 Pontiac GrandPrix.
I've had about 30 cars since then and still miss it.
my dad leased one of these for $250 a month, $0 down. crazy deal and he loves it so far. 1 month in and no problems yet but we shall see
We have VFe34 and VF8 ( base and lux ) here, Vietnam in Xanh SM ( Uber - like app ) , it works well. I would say it takes time to see the quality, but the frame is great😂, i saw lots of car crashes and VF8 hold it well.
Yea 250/month for this car is absolutely insane, glad ur dad got it
TRASH CAR
To rent this in Vietnam cost at least 1000 dollar a month
At that price it actually would be worth it
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Marques, what you just complained about was a lack of "Hill Assist", not bad "Creep Mode"
All creep mode means is the car moves slowly without you needing to press the gas pedal, not that it will stop your car from free-rolling on hills.
The problem is, there's a delay in creep mode. when you let go of the brake pedal it takes a second for the creep to kick in, while you are rolling down a hill.
Where this is most annoying is parallel parking on a hill. (In other cars you can hit the accelerator and break at the same time, but when the brake pedal is pushed the accelerator is canceled out.)
This can get very annoying.
@@ohya101 they do have a disable option
The not being able to put the vehicle in gear without being buckled up is something I experienced with a Chevy truck that I rented from U-Haul. I can see it as an additional safety measure, especially in countries that require you to wear your seatbelt.
AFAIK, creep mode is supposed to control whether or not the car creeps forward, not prevent you from rolling backward. Not that it's not something that shouldn't even happen in the first place in an EV.
Correct, it has nothing to do with rolling backwards on a hill. Just if it will slowly roll forward with the foot off the brake, like a gas car will.
Affirmatory. My Renault Zoe has creep built in but it also autoholds uphill.
I guess the hypothetical link is that rolling back on hills is an expected behaviour in some ICE vehicles but completely unexpected on all EVs
Agreed. Auto Hill Hold should be mandatory on all vehicles, imo
Yup, hill assist/hold is for rolling backwards.
NancyDrew pre-loaded is a deal breaker for me
What is the Nancy drew reference? Other than books? I’m not familiar
😂😂
@@dosesandmimosesit comes with the nancy drew app preloaded. Theres no other reference
Tells you the software older than dinosaurs.
me2
Many of the issues you mentioned have been addressed in the most recent software update . I recently drove a new 2024 V8
Many improvements were made
Which issues were addressed?
Up graded frt and rear suspension better ride . Less noise
New battery pack, new chemistry
New motors 402 HP on plus trim
New interior door design , better handles
Upgrade to sound system
Software update 13 address too many to name improvements.
Better throttle response
Better range and charging battery pre heat improvements
Find my car improvements
Pet mode while charging
I got a 2023 vinfast vf8 plus on dec 26 of last year. I can say the software is a bit buggy but this car isnt as bad as most yt reviewers put it out to be. Its been 4 months now and we are quite happy with it, other than the software where we update it at the dealer every 3 months to keep it work most efficient. There is a 10 years warranty so i trust. Definitely worth 65k canadian dollars.
Congrats! It is good to see a Canadian owner’s comment (I’m from Calgary, AB). Why did you purchased VF8? What do you think about Model Y? I have no BEV yet, but after many years I think Tesla still has no competition and if I’m going to buy something, I’m 100% sure about it it will be a Model 3 or a Model Y (and NOT a Leaf, NOT a Mach-E, NOT a Bolt, NOTHING from Hyundai/KIA).
Enjoy it and someday you'll have some stories to tell your grandkids I'm sure. Early adopter stories are always entertaining.
Hope that car doesn’t burn your house down
@@sentimentaltech3537 Tesla has burned, Chinese cars have also burned. There has been no record of any EV VinFast burning.
@@sentimentaltech3537 stupid and rude🙃😌
I’ve seen 3 of these this week. So glad you put out this video!
It has very much in vietnam
I'm all for it, competition breeds innovation. Nothing wrong with having options.
I got one at a special discount 2023 model for 38k......the plus version. Plus super low interest rate. At that price I think it's worth the quirks. Some of these things will improve with software
Not driving without buckling up is an excellent feature and can save a lot of lives.
Loud beeping noise should be sufficient. At best a speed limit.
Saw a vid recently where a lady couldn't get her car off the train track. Old lady. People weren't sure if it was because she was clueless in general, or couldn't get the car moving in a panic because one of these BS features. In general, bricking the car is a stupid, stupid idea. Sensors can be wrong, it can be bypassed, it can be faulty, and it introduces a MASSIVE liability for the manufacturer should a critical situation arise.
Imagine driving a loved one to a hospital, but something was off with the sensor, and the car would not start. Not something you want to ever potentially happen.
Technology and developers have taken a very concerning "I know it all" approach. Louis Rossman even describe it as a "rapist mentality". Controls are taken from the user, options are slowly stripping, with any edge cases the developers did not anticipate becoming a royal pain to the end user. Just not a good trend in general. Rules and regulations are written in blood, because people did not anticipate everything that could happen, until it happens. Developers playing god, making decisions as if they're omniscient, is not something to celebrate.
But quite a bit less compelling if you need to buckle up to just move the car from one place to another that's close enough that buckling up to do it makes you seem genuinely crazy. "But my car won't let me drive it at all otherwise!" Right.
@@Kirkrrr well, I know a guy who did exactly that, only to die in an accident at the next crossing because he did not buckle up
Except the car is a death trap according to an ex JLR chassis engineer who worked on it after it was designed and was fired for whistle blowing because Vinfast didn't want to take his advice and redesign the faulty components and re-engineer the suspension.
I actually really like the display. It's simple and easy to use. I don't want to have to dig through layers of things to find a basic setting. The AC vents are fantastic compared to Tesla. Also from what I can see the panels actually line up which seems like an expectation thing.....but Elon still can't figure it out. Honestly, if I could afford a car and my choice was between this and the Model Y.....I'll take the VinFast
I would never buy a Vinfast in it's current state. But compared to Fisker, I respect the effort they went through to try and rapidly address some of the issues like suspension. That they would go so far as to implement hardware changes and retrofits, not just software updates, I think speaks to how hard they're trying. Could have saved themselves a lot of headache with more testing, but there's still something commendable in the company. Hope they learn from this and their future launches are more compelling.
from the front side looks like Tartan Prancer from the 2015 movie. How many ashtray's does it have ? 🤣
Have you driven the VF8? If you drive it, i think you have different thoughts. Don't just listen to reviews
@@sonnguyenba1709 riding in it is nauseating enough
@@TrungNguyen-uf8cvYes . Dear president ///
Lol....
@NhatVinhLe-lm5jh does it have anything to do with 3/ lmao. I took the taxi, and terrible suspension made it feel uncomfortable
Great feedback… what I am hearing is that there are a lot of good things, but need some work on the software. Would never get a model Y as I am not a fan of the shape of the Tesla materials. I love the semblance of a regular gas vehicle as my only need for an EV is the drive train. Not sure why manufacturers are putting so much Tech in EVs because Tesla started that crap. I just needed a regular car with an Electric drive train, normal door handles etc. I like this VF8 car
That's right, what we need is convenience of use
Absolutely agree with you. A car that looks like a car inside is such fun. Simple driving.
@trungkn I work for this company in Functional Safety. This is the issue that has not been resolved for months, due to completely clueless controls design and Functional Safety mitigation.
Ask me anything, there is plenty to share.
@gamelihlencube2128 I work for this company in Functional Safety. This is the issue that has not been resolved for months, due to completely clueless controls design and Functional Safety mitigation.
Ask me anything, there is plenty to share.
have had 4 tesla. got vf8 for cheap 9k 3 years lease.
Been driving it everywhere really enjoy it! first 3 days was hard but you get use to it.
Alot of people ask what it is and it looks really good at night with Led V strips.
Feels nice being in something no one else is in also.
UI sucks , And tesla drivetrain is better but i thoroughly look forward to driving the car over the model y. Model y suspension is unforgiving to passengers.
I love the widgets. All of that stuff should be highly customizable.
Yeah. I'm not quite sure about why he was considering that a negative. I think a widget based home screen makes perfect sense and is quite functional. What he was showing didn't look cartoony to me.
Why? your phone does all of that already why waste resources on stuff like that on your car menu?
@@aptwo916 TBH I don't care much about the widget system. Most of the time my VF's screen shows Android Auto.
@@aptwo916Because you aren’t supposed to play with your phone while driving? Sure, you can always mount your phone, but that kind of defeats the point of the push for big touch screens in cars.
@@aptwo916 Can’t help but wonder … do you own a car? Your question doesn’t make sense. I’m wondering if you’re asking it because you’re unfamiliar with cars.
I agree, it’s not a Model Y competitor, however, I pay $550 for my model Y and I gave $7500 down, plus the $7500 rebate. I also have this car and I pay $221 a month, with no money down, zero out of pocket, that’s a bargain.
Wow, video này thực sự là một trải nghiệm chi tiết về Vinfast VF8! Rất thích cách bạn phân tích từng khía cạnh của xe, từ thiết kế, tính năng đến trải nghiệm lái, thậm chí những chi tiết nhỏ như cảm giác nhựa trên tay nắm cửa và màn hình HUD. Một bài học rút ra quan trọng là khi mua một chiếc xe điện, trải nghiệm và khả năng thích ứng của xe trong cuộc sống hàng ngày mới thực sự quan trọng, hơn cả việc chỉ sở hữu một sản phẩm mới. Cảm ơn bạn vì đã thực hiện video này - thực sự bổ ích và giúp mình hiểu thêm rất nhiều về VF8. Chờ đợi thêm những đánh giá tuyệt vời từ bạn!
Vinfast is a site I go to decode my car's VIN. I can't get over the name.
In the future, after Vinfast fails in the North American market, i think this will be a common mention when analyzing their failure.
To me it sounds more like one of those "speed up your computer" sort of software, where you pay $80 just to have the temp files deleted from the PC.
I will go out on a limb and say many (not all) Vietnamese people are bad at naming and branding. For example, 'Vina' is a common prefix in brand names here, from big brands to small ones. It's fine most of the time. VinFast, on the other hand, I can picture the Chairman/CEO, or someone high up, in his office, thinking Vin for Vingroup (the parent company), and Fast because it's a car brand, and going 'aha!', while mispronouncing it as Vin-Phat. They justify it by saying VinFast is actually an acronym but I believe it's a backronym, because most of Vingroup's companies all have 'Vin' in front of it, like VinBigData, VinUniversity, VinSchool, VinFa. I've mentioned it to my (Vietnamese) friends, and they seemingly can't understand why I see it as a problem when it comes to branding and pronunciation.
The funniest thing is that they keep naming their car vf something like so it's a vinfast vinfast 8. At least some of the car name here make sense and doesn't sound stupid when you say it out loud
My family work for Vin and they force their employees to buy 2 vinfast per employees’ family 😂 nobody buys this overpriced trash so they have to keep forcin. The only Vinfast car runs on the streets are either owned by Vin employees or VF Taxi brand. No real demand so they have to resort to these cheap trick to push sales or create demand by creating a Taxi company 😂
Seemed like a pretty good car to me. I like the back end more than a Y but then I thought the Fisker was pretty good too.
He seriously seems like a Tesla sheel at this point. It's a shame that Fisker didn't solidify their software before delivery, but way back Tesla also launched with software issues and have a terrible maintenance record. How's that fsd working out?
In this context the cybertruck review seemed incredibly generous.
As for a reason to choose this car over a model y? Elon fing Musk, end of story. The real question is why take a model y over any of the other great competitors?
@@IdleNomad as someone who has rode in this car before, it is not a competitor. it is nauseating riding in this, especially long distances
@@IdleNomad The reality is its impossible to not recommend Tesla over anything else. Literally no one has given the VF8 a good review ... as for the other competitors, the reality is while Tesla's cars are only so-so compared to some competitors, the Supercharger network is still an order of magnitude better than any competitor. That's why I ended up buying a Model Y even though it was my least favorite of the 7 cars I tested. A competitor could be half the price, be made of wood and leather, massage me and dispense caviar; none of that matters if your battery is dead and the only working EA charger is stuck at
Vinfast should probably stick with making electric scooters. No Solar Panels? - How disappointing...
10 yrs warranty is all I need to hear! Any problems during then won't hurt my pocket!
You can poke around in model Y interior and mention “cheap plastic” as well.
Absolutely... I don't really know why we always look at plastic interior as something cheap
If so then Teslas are fucking crap man
My model 3 is hella cheap in the interior
@@dimamelihov6434 I think the issue's not plastic, but cheap-looking plastic. And his main complaint wasn't really the plastic, but the cheap-looking vegan leather everywhere.
One thing I have noticed about these VF8 reviews on various channels........many reviewers panned it, some were optimistic. Same ratio for commenters. However, basically ALL of the commenters who actually purchased and driven them were very happy with it. And I would say those should carry the most weight! Its hard to find a buyer who has any regrets so far
thanks for supporting our country’s company bro
@tuanbarber2665 biết đâu họ được ông M nào đó trả tiền để nói xấu
For a company that came out of nowhere, this new company is making some impressive moves.
thats because the use good parts from big names like bmw and lg
@@cali_calnot many new company can use those parts, agree with me? ❤
They're very popular domestically in Vietnam. I see VinFast VF's all over the place.
The widget customization and HUD is actually a nice touch, plus the heated and cooled front and rear seats. Tesla should take notes for sure with those options.
For sure Tesla will, then pull an Apple and say they were the first.... lol
I'm eight minutes in and can't tell where the bad is. Even that UI, it seems fast, not laggy whatsoever and I really love the visuals.
Yeah I'm not sure what exactly the problem is. The bright icons (is that what he means by cartoony?) are going to be better if you are driving.
Decent car . Not any serious issues to tell it bad either then
As a Vietnamese whose relatives owned a VF9 and I just got a ride in that car this very afternoon, I can tell you that the software is desperately in need of an massive overhaul to say the least, while all it seem nice and shiny, the icon and some buttons are just in a counter-intuitive placement once you start using it, and don't even get me started about the confusing messages and error icons popped up everywhere on the display when there's a problem. Sure they have customer support on their app, but it's still can't deny the fact that the software put up an incorrect errors messages which make thing that much harder to searching for the real problems. Anyways, yes, the company is still young, so give them time, they already short on customers who made the switch so I imagined this would take long, but I still hoped for the best for them though, since they are the pioneer force of EV in Vietnam right now.
My family work for Vin and they force their employees to buy 2 vinfast per employees’ family 😂 nobody buys this overpriced trash so they have to keep forcin. The only Vinfast car runs on the streets are either owned by Vin employees or VF Taxi brand. No real demand so they have to resort to these cheap trick to push sales or create demand by creating a Taxi company 😂
@@lemonhaze1506automatic message huh? I see you commenting on other people the same way
Physical buttons.
That's the number one reason I can think of for buying this car.
Also, nice amenities with the seats. That's a pretty important amenity set. Heated AND cooled, front AND rear? Ten years ago, that was Rolls Royce options territory. Ten years from now, it'll probably be standard on EVERY car down to the MItsubishi Mirage.
The only physical buttons on this car are window switches, hazards, and volume knob (with integrated power button).
Everything else is through the center screen. Not sure what you mean by that.
@@ohya101
That's still more than some cars.
I truly enjoy that your thumbnail has no obnoxious text or arrows or general bullshit. Kudos good sir.
Our neighbor has one but I have yet to ride in one. Seems like a polished car from the outside, panel gap and finishing wise.
Also, it’s nice to get EV options from other regions such as Asia (Vinfast is a Vietnamese automaker) because what we truly need in the US are the Chinese EV options to ramp up competition.
It’s so unfortunate for the States where Chinese EV could not be sold there, and every other country can enjoy these high-quality and low-cost Chinese EV. I have an atto 3 in Europe. It’s really an amazing product. It‘s so pleasant to drive.
Thank your honesty and not being a corporate sellout with your reviews. Good or bad, you point it out; car reviewing as it should be
“Shocking similarities with the Fisker”, the problem with that statement is that the VinFast doesn’t have any solar roof panel, the size is similar however it’s very subjective. The whole idea of “depreciative flagship” just because of the apps and the UI, again very subjective, guess what MKBHD it’s not a Tesla, other Automotive OEMS are going to have its own UI and icons are different. Maybe you should contact the VinFast CEO and have an interview with her and tell her your concerns on how the UI and icons can be updated instead of a four year old Android tablet and overall brand can be better instead of just bashing the brand. I do agree that the camera frame rate is not great but compared to the Mustang Mach E, Vinfast is better. I think that also you mentioned the different Drive Modes and how the vehicle can’t build up instantaneous torque it’s because the EV weighs 5600 lbs and the composite of steel and aluminum so it would seem it’s very top heavy and as a result takes sacrifice on performance but makes up in safety, some people would be ok with that. I think the Vegan Leather looks good, maybe the placement of the leather in front of the steering wheel seems odd but at least it’s not like a cookie cutter sterile Tesla interior and has a little character. Also at 13:31 you mentioned you would take the VinFast VF8, compared to what??
As an EV owner, as fun as the instant torque is, I've learned that it isn't a feeling everyone enjoys. Especially people who don't regularly drive EVs. I can see why a new company would want to garner more new customers by making the car feel more familiar.
Just put it in normal mode simple
That makes no sense in sport mode, though. It should be an option, because instant torque can literally save your life. For example, you're in an intersection and you see a car who ran a red light barreling toward you. With instant torque, you escape unscathed. With delay, you get T-boned at 55 mph, roll over, and either get seriously injured or maybe even die.
@@killerSFA7 Did not sound like there is a normal mode.
That instant torque is also hard on motor ,every Model Y owner i watched allready had motor replaced after just 2 years,ok is in warranty so payed 0 but what when warranty expires
@@dzonikg Second that. It's a way to make things last longer like bushings and so on.
I love this channel as always, and this review nails it. I can't believe Vinfast cheaped out on rear view camera and materials for 50K car.
I live in NC near where the factory is. Really want them to succeed to help the local area but sounds like the writing is on the wall for their long term success
Me too and I really want them to succeed
Rooms if improvement are not a sentence to death however trying to ignore them is. I just hope Vinfast is young enough to respond the feedbacks to stay on the game.
His review of this and the Fisker aren't as bad as he initially made them sound. Plenty of flaws and reasons to go with the competition, which is a big deal and might be enough for them to fail, but it's not like they are terrible cars. The flaws mentioned can be corrected over the coming years, if not sooner.
If by chance you pass by where they are building the factory can you grab some pictures. Wondering where are they in the process
The auto focus licence plate cover is a spectacular touch. Nice work
I just did a test drive of the VF eight 2024 I’ve just driven a whole bunch of EV’s in the last two weeks and because of where this sits on its lease price and then your buyout if you do wanna buy it, I think I’m gonna go for this car I Gotta say my comparison and really reality is my ford Cmax that I drive all the time the other cars that are the competitors because the lease price is so good on this. They really aren’t competitors right now. This is the cheapest car and I like it the things that he’s complain about in this I don’t have any considerations or concerns with it. It’s not an issue for me so I don’t have a problem I think if, it’s convinced me that he drives way fancier cars than I’ve ever driven and for me to be the first electric to get into my house. This is the right price range for me with the lease option that they have and I think I’m gonna go for it.
I very surprisingly saw 4, or 5 of these during my recent trip to L.A. 🤷🏼♂️
Well they lease them for starting at $249/month. So that's kinda hard to beat.
Hell yea
hahah good luck .
Low initial commitment for new tech that depreciates like a meteor...they might be on to something. Why would you waste your money on a $70k Tesla that will be worth $35k within 3 years?
I picked up my 2023 VF8 Plus at a Vinfast dealership about over 3 weeks ago, and the lot was full of VF8 units. Two days ago I drove my VF8 past the dealership, on my way to work and the lot was totally empty. Curiously, I didn't know what was going on. I stopped by and asked them if they were moving. They told me that they had had no VF8 left and were waiting for the new batch to come. About 100 Vinfast VF8s flew off the lot like hot cakes! Unbelievable! Thanks to Marques for the Vinfast review!
Good news thanks
Marques didn't recommend this car, and yet what you say is his fan flock out to buy an unendorsed VF8 ?? I'm wondering if you are on high or what ?
@@JohnNy-ni9np Ask him! Don't ask me.
@@JohnNy-ni9np They have gone like hot cakes.
You are a patriot. Always fighting people in comments.🤣
I've hated the trend in UI (particularly championed by Tesla) to make EVERYTHING different shades of gray. It is incredibly un-intuitive especially when driving. Colours may look "clownish", but they let you determine what you're looking at quickly without the need to focus on it. Some egregious examples in our Tesla:
Is Bluetooth connected? Light gray for 'on', Very light gray for 'off'. (could easily put a blue oval behind the icon for 'on')
Is a button toggled on, off or is it disabled? All 3 button states are just different shades of gray.
On the map, water is gray, land is light gray, buildings are very light gray.
The screen can display millions of colours, but the only colour being used is gray. I'll take the clown show any day.
Your comment is rambling and makes little sense.
i get it tesla need to add more colors on the factory side, screen and i agree its too bland and gray, it is.
@@tonyn3227 Let tesla know that not everyone sees things the same and a few contrast level selections are needed. Requests like this are answered on X. "I will pass it on the the UI team" or such.
Yes, I prefer having colours too, but the way Vinfast are doing it lacks consistency.
you're stupid, he was referring exactly to the part when mkbhd called clownish and cartoonish the colors of the UI
I love this car. The aesthetic of modern car that happens to be an EV is very much preferred to the blatant EV design that many auto manufacturers decide to go with.
But you don't buy this, right?
@@inouehiroyuki I see you commenting negatively on this car everywhere, are you a competitor of Vinfast?
It goes to show, American innovation is still king. All the other companies can try to copy but the software experience is going to be the differentiating factor. Props to Vietnam for building a car (that's a good sign for any country to do), but price it competitively!
Man, this car is just fine; I'd take one in a heartbeat.
At that price? There are much better options at that price range
You got this after the updates. If you got it when it first came out… can’t imagine they’d be happy after.
Yeah, but, as a customer I care about the product I am buying, not the one reviewers got months ago (for better or worse). Of course that should teach manufacturers a lesson not to release unfinished products, but still. If they have fixed it by the time I buy the product, great. All the issues there were and that may have lowered the price are gone.
which is why I think the way he treated Fisker was totally unfair. Idk why he expected a new start up company to not have any flaws.
Yeah same goes for the fisker, ive heard the 2.0 update solves alot of the problems he had.
Warranty bro
@@WHALEx3you know that the software version he tested was given to actual customers right? There was not pre-production software it was just not their latest update. Which was perfectly valid for him to test so don't make excuses for them.
I hate to say it, but in this day and age if you can't get the software right on a car, you have no business making the car.
i like this design
Ofcourse it's Pininfarina, Ferrari designer.
One has to admire the motivation of the major stockholder of this company, Mr. Pham when he recently commented, "If it were just for business and making money, the Vingroup leadership would not be foolish enough to dive into a difficult field like car manufacturing, but Vingroup decided to create VinFast out of social responsibility and patriotism." However, things have not been going as planned as VinFast has made some serious market miscalculations that have resulted in over 5 billion dollars of losses in the last few years. They need to engineer a small range extender into the car to remove range anxiety and lower its cost and its 3-ton weight… I hope they survive…
Currently waiting for my VF8 Eco on order, test drove one and will say the software can get buggy, but every issue is always fixed QUICKLY. As a viet I'm proud of where VinFast is at right now.
Yeah, it's proud to see a Vietnamese brand go over the world, certainly not perfect now, but I believe it will get better.
I don't think so, all Vingroup products have problems and the most important thing, all of those products are not cheap, even though they are made in Vietnam.
:)))))),suck car
Chúc anh vạn dặm bình an!
Why are you proud when Vinfast put out a car that's not proud of? You should criticize your this car coldly.
Starts at $34500 in Vietnam - much more competitive than imported to USA. I think it is a good option there. Software could be updated in post to a degree. In USA Ioniq seems like a better option.
HUD instead of driver centric gauge cluster is an awesome idea
If they would put blinkers in there I would agree with you. But the blinkers are very unreliable, and you need to check the center screen to double-check if they're on.
When you're checking your blind spot, mirror, in front of you, and behind you, to do a lane change, the last thing you want to do is look at your middle screen as well to make sure your blinker is on.
as a Vietnamese, seeing our country made product is being reviewed by one of the biggest tech UA-camr on the planet right now is such a privilege. Thank you for all your feedback and I hope that Vinfast would take this seriously to improve the car in its future models like they did with the one that Donut reviewed
ngao nghe
@@phuanh992Woah easy buddy
@@phuanh992 mày làm được gì rồi hả? có đóng thuế thu nhập cá nhân cho nước mày ở chưa?
Mất tiền thuê đó cha, win-win cả
I had a Gogoro VF5 in November and have to say I was quite impressed as a passenger, especially considering it costs "just" 20k€.
Honestly this seems way more fine to use and drive than the Fisker. Most people don't really need a sporty fast car. I don't see many major issues, even the beeping is pretty normal nowadays from what I can tell.
The Model Y RWD for $36K makes buying the VF8 at over $40K insane.
Where are you buying model y for 36k? Certainly not in the us
yeah but Tesla's has no buttons which makes it an instant no.
Vinfast is running crazy lease deals - $0 down and $250/month. I still wouldn't but I can see why some would.
@@ddha0000My tesla has a lot of buttons. Most of them are on the display.
429 with 0 down bro lol@@iamnid
the buckle up with parking brake is actually nice, some people dont buckle up so I guess its a way to make people do it. Might be annoying but only if you do not practice safe driving which includes buckle up each time.
I’m seeing this thing advertised for a lease at $199/month. Which is kinda attractive just to get around to work and back and maybe to the store. I spend more than that on gas alone! I would also consider leasing this for like my son who just started college and a part time job!
Auto Focus is really making massive corporations recognize the importance of media.
Yes, cause auto focus is definitely the first channel to negatively review this car lol.
@@JacksonKillroy Compared to other more established channels. I would say he went rather easy on it.
@@JacksonKillroy I think Auto Focus is a little unique, though. I’ll bet there are a lot of people who follow tech channels but don’t follow car channels… except this one, because they trust Marques and have found value in his other reviews.
@@nw42 sure, but what does that have to do with what op said
Yeah.. look at Donuts review of this.. they hated it
TBH... if the software is "bad" because you don't like the graphics then LOL. It didn't seem that bad and compared to VW EV's or just older cars in general, it's good. In the end most of the usage of the screen will be setting the music, HVAC and navigation (usually being google maps). If it does these things well, it's good enough and everything else is just a plus. It really is unfortunate though that this is the state of automotive software that it being functional is "good", kind of frustrating. The framerate of cameras is eh, but at the same time it does not matter that much. About driving though, that does matter - safety aids should not be annoying and the driver should feel confident driving the car at least somewhat sportily at 50K. One more thing - Tesla not including a HUD is a travesty, I have not heard of a single customer or a reviewer not wishing for it, at best they will settle, but if this was an option priced around 1K or even more, most buyers would option for a HUD. It really surprises me that Tesla did not add it in the refresh as it would remove the last nag from customers. At least there are after market solutions.
you said it very correctly, love you from VN.
I mean, watching this right after the cyber truck review, I'd take this.
It's crazy, this company. They have a really sleek seven-seater EV with 330 miles of range, and a couple years ago it was 55k, now, it is 79K. WHAT???
That's the vf9, the 55k price tag was when it was first introduced as a concept/pre-prod car back in 2021, not final price. It's still not here in the US yet but was released in Vietnam last year 2023. I heard they'll sell it here mid year. If the price is still 79k it's gonna be a tough fight for them.
It’s a crap company.
@@olong70how crap is it? How much do you know abot them? Did you drive the car yẻt?
@@olong70.Thằng nghèo đi dạy tỷ phú kinh doanh??
@@thanhthuyang9697 shark cũng đi tooo cả rồi đấy, dạy cl, nó dạy câu nào mà bảo dạy, ngạo nghễ nó ít thôi mày
I missed their lease offer of 249 a month, . but if they show up again, i will lease one. Saving $$ on gas will just pay for itself.
It's back. Actually cheaper. If you ask for it in person at the dealership in CA, they have new 2023 VF8 "City" Plus's for $199/mo and VF8 City Eco's for $149/mo. Basically they took the remaining 2023 new inventory, shipped it to Vietnam to update the computers and swap in the new 2024 suspension; then sent them back to USA. Slightly lower range than the 2024 models but a killer deal. My 2023 Black-on-White VF8 Plus is arriving next week.
@@douglas685 Nice, is the offer good for the bay area, that's where I live. Any down required?. Thanks for letting me know.
@@MrSteve925 yeah, just tax and registration are down payment (like $2,400 ish)
It is clear that this car is not a flagship level and that is why they have marked it at a lower price. First time ever I felt that Marques was more pessimistic about a product. I found most of the things fine which Marques mentioned as spoiler alert. I was considering a price and being a new company. I appreciate the effort by VF for a low cost car.
The low frame rate on the camera does 2 things, it's clearer in dark environments because of low frame rate, the sensor has more time to gather light, and the biggest one is it discourages you from relying on it to drive. A backup camera is an aid to help keep you from bumping stuff, you're not supposed to stare at it while backing up, you're supposed to use your mirrors like "back in the day"
He started as a phone reviewer, ofcourse he compare everything smart phone camera.
I would love to hear a Wave Form deep dive into vinFast the company. I have heard of them but they were founded just over 6 years ago. And that includes covid time.
How did they do it? There has to be more to the story
Oh it comes from the Vin company which founded years ago before VinFast. Back then they specialize in housing so they got lots of capital, as well as they currently get approvement from the government.
As a new product of a new car company, VinFast always tries to bring the best to car buyers. According to those who have bought VF8, very few people complain about the quality of the car, it's just that the software is not yet complete. If you come to Vietnam, you will see VinFast cars running on the road a lot with cheaper costs than other famous car companies. Of course, a new product from a young company needs time to prove itself, but VinFast has been trying to do the best they can. I still love VinFast ❤
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Vinfast at $4.70 lets see where we go from here
4.69
Probably down, but good call, thank you!
I mean since this video dropped it's only been down
It will be clearly delisted like Fisker in a couple of weeks
@@Rapido20 Absolutely not. You watch. Ford is $12 and that's the highest it's been in years. Now in TSLA case, it's been more than a YEAR that stock has tanked by $130 per share and even with Model Y, Semi, 3 refresh and Cyber it has not budged - that's the stock you should be worried about. Thankfully I took a ride in the roadster 15 years ago and bought stupid early so I'm still ahead, but on paper lost mucho. 👁🗨
"is trying"
Do i perceive another Fisker Ocean like review?
UA-cam blue comment!?
*goes bankrupt immediately*
I come back here when heard that abt 80% of comments here are positive for VF. Actually not 80%, but many. I think that is good sign for a good newcoming ev brand. They will go faster than almost people think. If they can control their expanding, i think that's good for them, and for all consumers.
If block the Vietnamese IP, it will decrease a lot.😅
@@inouehiroyuki and if block the California IP, it will increase a lot
Dear Marques
I feel that you are a very famous person, very much loved by everyone. Why is that? Because first and foremost, you are an honest and good person. That is what has helped you achieve the high success you have today. I really like you.
I seriously suggest you do one thing: borrow this VF8 car and the Fisker, and drive each one for a week. Learn all about the features that the manufacturer has provided. Then do a very detailed review of the technical aspects of the car.
Lately, I have been disappointed to see that the so-called car review channels do not know how to start the car (Donut), do not know the car's specifications, and the car is forced to have a seatbelt and is considered a fault. Users know that very well. Reviewers can say that they didn't know the first time, but the second time, viewers will judge the car reviewers themselves.
And one more request, please don't use the standards of a $100,000 car to compare with a $50,000 car.
I sincerely thank you.
Sincerely,
Olama
Yap
👍👍👍
How does it compare to cars under $50,000? Does this car become a better option then? There's a lot of illusion.
@@inouehiroyukiIt has all options other car has, even more. Please check out it manual. One important thing, it heavier than any car with the same price, the body frame too safe. Many accident between VF8 with Container, truck, kia, huyndai, toyota, mescedes. VF8 almost crushed them. air bags in all cases. Do you want photo and video, I can show you. Heavier is safer, not cheaper quality, please understand. And do not tell me you want to compare the weight with the hyper car with carbon frame
It has a ln outstanding waranty policy 10 years bumper to bumper, 125,000 miles, unlimited miles for battery. How about Tesla or Huyndai, just 4 or 5 years. This brand appears will change the game on the car market. Believe me, it is not just a normal start-up ev company like Fisker or Lucid. It has e-bus, scooter, bike, line of sizes SUV, mini, pick-up. And it is trying spread over the world. Now with the lowest stock price, it is still the third EV maker by market cap after Tesla and Xpeng. Future will be more fun to see 😮
The car is so dogshit that's why they have to have something sound good to back it up as you said warranty. If it sounds so fucking good, then why don't people in Vietnam buy it? And why are the majority of them used as taxis? The stock price is a clear example of a rug pull, with VinFast pulling the rug on their investors, dropping from 68 to 5. It's literally a crypto rug pull. Unfortunately, attempting to expand globally doesn't guarantee acceptance, my friend. It's still a shit car.
What are you talking about lmao tesla has an 8 year/125k battery warranty
@pablojams5152 vinfast: battery unlimited miles, replace new one if it downs to under 70%. For the body bumper to bumper 10 years/125k miles
@@TamotojiTukamo Vện Vàng
How about the company will bankrupt after 3 years?
I have tested driven VF8 already. It is pretty good. It is heavy and it is safe in terms of accident. Plus 10 years warranty and 125,000 miles warranty. Can't beat that. I haven't tested their autopilot yet, but I see other reviewers love their autopilot. Therefore, I might consider buying this car due to its 10 years warranty and bumper to bumper. Before we compare to other EV, we must also compare the warranty. Buying a car with 10 years warranty is the same price as buying cars with 4-5 years warranty. I rather buy cars with 10 years warranty to feel more safe.
it's actually on some very attractive leash pricing right now, $275 - $450/month I think. check it out
what gonna happen if they go bankrupt?
@@VietNguyen-bq8xvphá cái mõm may trước nhé.đang xây mấy nhà máy mới đấy.
@@VietNguyen-bq8xvđừng lo lắng . Nó vẫn sẽ sống tốt và phát triển sau khi chú mày xuống lỗ .
Lol...
@@VietNguyen-bq8xv Any company can go bankrupt bro. You worry too much. Even your house can go bankrupt, and you will lose hundreds of thousands of dollars. Cars cost lesser than 55K. Rest assure bro.
The Vinfast VF8 clearly seems a bit behind compared to other EVs. Hopefully, they improve on the issues you pointed out in future models.
I'm sorry but the fob NOT having proximity unlock is a feature for me... Not a bug. I'm not out here trying to get my car stolen through the simplest signal repeater attack.
Pressing a single button isn't a significant barrier
Opening the door and starting the car are two wildly different things. A signal repeater isn’t going to be able to simulate the fob being inside the car consistently for them to start it and drive off. 🤦 some people don’t think
@@pablojams5152 so in theory you're correct. But effectively the car only checks if it thinks the key is in the car for both those actions at the moment you press the button. And also there are loads of entry points to plug something in once you're inside the car.
So in the real world you're very wrong. They drive off with your car with just a dumb signal repeater 15s in your driveway...
@@SquintyGears it might depend heavily on the car because many cars will refuse to remain on if the fob leaves the car, as it’s actively checking
@@pablojams5152 yeah it depends on the car but mostly it depends on it's age. very very recent cars have much more realistic security than even slightly older ones.
there's no specific regulation for this and the companies basically assumed security by ignorance would work every time a new feature is introduced.
like first generation of press button on your fob to unlock had a simple non encrypted key that it sent identically every time. now it's all rolling single use encrypted key.
proximity based fobs are generally caught up for a brand new car. but I don't see it as a benefit so I would rather not have this additional hackable entry point on my car.
every form of security grows obsolete...
I think what you are missing: you can lease that car for just $250 a month. Including a 10 year warranty that will replace every part for free (as long as it is not your fault).
They are doing onside service at your location. For 250 a month for a 3 year lease!
A Model Y would cost me more than double.
As a Vietnamese, It's unreal to see a Vietnamese car company making it to MKBHD's channel. I'm filled with pride. The car is definitely not perfect right now, but I believe that its parent company Vingroup has more than enough money to improve it in the future. Thank you for the video and I hope that you'll revisit this car a year from now to see all the improvements.
Open your wallet. Buy it.
I've seen 5 of these in real life. I don't think it's gaining the market that it wants to.
Automobile industry is cut throat and has very high upfront costs. Vinfast is backed by Vingroup but it is still a very small player when compared to Tesla, let alone big players like VW and Toyota.
I really hope that Vinfast will succeed too, it will put Vietnam on the map and hopefully our arts and culture will become more known to the Anglosphere. We have a lot to offer.
I’m not currently in the market for a car right now, but when I am, will seriously consider a VF. But for now, I’m not satisfied with the current charging infrastructure enough to purchase a full EV.
I picked up my 2023 VF8 Plus at a Vinfast dealership about over 3 weeks ago, and the lot was full of VF8 units. Two days ago I drove my VF8 past the dealership, on my way to work and the lot was totally empty. Curiously, I didn't know what was going on. I stopped by and asked them if they were moving. They told me that they had had no VF8 left and were waiting for the new batch to come. About 100 Vinfast VF8s flew off the lot like hot cakes! Unbelievable! Thanks to Marques for the Vinfast review!
Beauty car from beauty country ❤
I'm traveling in Vietnam right now. The VF cars are everywhere as one of their rideshares.
Did you see any vinfast ebus ?
@@NGUYEN-TUAN-1975 Nope, I think they're only utilized up in Bac Ninh (northern vietnam) for now. I was only in Saigon and Nha Trang.
@@drgta6 in Ho Chi Minh, vinfast ebus just run 1-2 routes, the start station is landmark building.
I guess the traffic was so bad that I didn't really pay attention. I'm usually looking down at my phone. But I do enjoy riding in a VF8 though.
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I liked it. Some of the quirks would be annoying over time, but I feel like some of this is overly critical. Especially with the infotainment. It looks fine to me. Not amazing, not bad, but fine. The design doesn't look 'cartoonish' to me as described. Many newer vehicles are removing color from icons and throughout the infotainment. Doesn't make them look more premium. To me anyway. I'd personally still prefer this over a Tesla's design and aesthetics.
I am rooting for the VF7 review when it comes out ❤❤ that one is designed to be electric from scratch. Thank you Marques for this review
I was optimistic about Vinfast and I think there's potential, but like you mentioned, the driving dynamics aren't there. Comparing this to an EV6 or Ioniq 5, which can be had for basically the same price and are quicker, handle better, charge faster, and have longer range, it's hard to consider this... And tech is decent in those as well (especally when the new ccNC infotainment rolls out for the refreshes this year).
Ive considered those as well when evaluating comparable. But where I am, the total final price the Vinfast comes in notacibly less expensive when you add in all the features and options that the plus version gives you. And that doesnt even factor in 10 year bumper to bumper warranty. Try selling the KIA or Hyundai in 5 years, with no guarantees to your buyer instead of another 5 year guarantee no repair or replacement costs plus labour for a vehicle.
I don't know if you've ever driven a budget car recently, but this is waaaay better in every way. Honestly one of the best EVs I've ever seen reviewed??
“It’s not Tesla so it must be bad” attitude is disingenuous. These are start up companies entering the ev market, and frankly with a ton of unique designs features and most of all a clean fit and finish unlike *cough* teslas 🙄
Marques probably has Tesla shares
I own one, I have had for over a month and I am loving it, you are full of it, I believe Tesla is paying you to downplay all foreign built cars( Vinfast, Fisker, and I own all of them and very happy )
Side profile reminds me of the modern Ford Puma 2019.
It also looks like an Audi Q3-5.
Renault Megane back
Say what you will about Vietnam, but going from rice harvesting with wooden plows to building VF8s in 30 years’ time is insanely impressive.
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100% agree. From rice harvesting to financial manipulation on crappy car company and profit from guys like you is definitely impressive.
@@henreatorYes . Dear president .
Lol...
A company product’s quality have nothing to do with the history bozo
99% from CHina, :)
I think creep mode is there to mimic diesel vehicles since their torque is high enough to keep the vehicle moving forward without pressing on acceleration. But not enough to keep ypu from rolling backwards on a hill.
The delay in torque. Marques, its prob to favor the chaotic traffic we have here in VN. Crossing bikes left right center up down. So that instant torque can slamm someone real hard if it is accidentally activated.
Good point. I'd hate to be at a red light in front of a HCMC Grab driver in a Tesla.
Well but they selling it in US so they should do something about it for the market ?
@@Neinder how about a setting for that
Nice to see some physical switches 👍 Looks like it has teething issues - might be good option for a lease 😜
Physical switches? Still using a BlackBerry?
I got mine at a great deal and I really like this car. Drives great the soft ware is a bit laggy but if your using Apple car play none of that really matters. Overall it’s a great car if you can get it at a good price
The Fisker Ocean 2.0 OTA update resolved the major issues for me and introduced hill hold.
If Fisker makes it to delivery of OTA 4.0 where the vehicle will be mostly feature complete, it will be a very good EV.
2:26 "To me it looks a little bit upside-down" he says while holding the key upside-down 😂
he means the orientation of the fob is not designed well. ex. the keyhole is at the top of the fob
I just saw one about 2-3 days ago, here in Canada
THERE IS A BUTTON ON THE DOOR HANDLE TO LOCK AND UNLOCK IT ON THE OUTSIDE SO YOU DO NOT NEED TO USE THE KEY