4Fusion Friday: Chick Corea Elektric Band/CAB/Players/Kick the Cat

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  • Опубліковано 15 жов 2024

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  • @flashythingme
    @flashythingme 2 роки тому +7

    Many thanks to Pete, Eric and George for letting me sit in on such a knowledgeable (and fun) panel discussion as SOT. Thanks to everyone for watching. - MJ

    • @ericporter344
      @ericporter344 2 роки тому +2

      Loved having you Mike

    • @garyjoyce2160
      @garyjoyce2160 2 роки тому +4

      Mike. You did a tremendous job speaking and 💯definitely added important info to this topic/ conversation. Great 👍 job

    • @flashythingme
      @flashythingme 2 роки тому +1

      @@garyjoyce2160 Thanks so much Gary!

    • @garyjoyce2160
      @garyjoyce2160 2 роки тому

      @@flashythingme 👍💯

  • @mikeklingenberg3644
    @mikeklingenberg3644 2 роки тому +8

    I love that Chick Corea album! I'm actually really into the dated keyboards!! Everything else you guys mentioned, well I've got some homework to do. Great show guys!!

  • @LoLavilla82
    @LoLavilla82 2 роки тому +5

    Thanks to George, Eric and Pete for another awesome show, Im learning a lot. My goal for this month is to listen to a ton of fusion and to report back on next show's episode !

    • @ericporter344
      @ericporter344 2 роки тому +2

      Enjoy Louis, thank you so much for your support

  • @JoeChewBaca
    @JoeChewBaca 2 роки тому +4

    Back with a follow-up, that CAB album arrived and it is an EXCELLENT listen!!!

    • @ericporter344
      @ericporter344 2 роки тому

      Awesome! Glad you are digging it!

    • @JoeChewBaca
      @JoeChewBaca 2 роки тому +1

      @@ericporter344 I'm definitely going to pick up the CAB 2 album.

    • @ericporter344
      @ericporter344 2 роки тому +1

      @@JoeChewBaca it’s so good!

    • @JazzzRockFuzion
      @JazzzRockFuzion Рік тому +1

      CAB might be my favorite fusion band - just FYI, they’ve actually released four albums in total (CAB, CAB 2, CAB 4 & Theatre de Marionettes), with a 5th likely incoming this year!

  • @JoeChewBaca
    @JoeChewBaca 2 роки тому +3

    Just saw the thumbnail at work so I didn't watch it until I got home. I did not know that you guys were into Marbin. I became a fan a couple of years ago, I've seen them every time that they've been in my area and bought every one of their albums. Nice shout out to Marbin... I have not listened to Dirty Horse yet, though they played a lot of it live the last time I saw them. Great band live. See them when you can!

    • @ericporter344
      @ericporter344 2 роки тому +2

      Love them! Thanks for watching

    • @JoeChewBaca
      @JoeChewBaca 2 роки тому +2

      @@ericporter344 Did you say that you were interviewing one of the Dannys/Danis? I'll keep an eye out for it if so.

    • @ericporter344
      @ericporter344 2 роки тому +2

      @@JoeChewBaca yes, we should be interviewing Dani in the next few weeks

  • @garyjoyce2160
    @garyjoyce2160 2 роки тому +7

    Thx a lot gang. I learned a lot. And will 💯check all of these selections 👍💯

    • @ericporter344
      @ericporter344 2 роки тому +3

      Thanks Gary, always appreciate your support

  • @arnaudb.7669
    @arnaudb.7669 2 роки тому +4

    Great show George!!!
    I know the Kornet album "Fritt Fall", it's an AWESOME 70's fusion record.
    More on that next month i suppose... ;o)

    • @georgelamie7001
      @georgelamie7001 2 роки тому +1

      No surprise, you're on top of it, Arnaud! Hope you liked this show

    • @arnaudb.7669
      @arnaudb.7669 2 роки тому +2

      @@georgelamie7001 for sure 😀

    • @ericporter344
      @ericporter344 2 роки тому +1

      @@arnaudb.7669 👍

  • @lahloonatic
    @lahloonatic 2 роки тому +4

    Marbin tour relentlessly. The hardest working band I know. Great show.

  • @WarhawkBeyond2040
    @WarhawkBeyond2040 2 роки тому +5

    Great show guys and it was fun hearing all of your thoughts on these 4 amazing albums
    1. Chick Corea Elektric Band
    2. CAB
    3. Players
    4. Kick The Cat

    • @georgelamie7001
      @georgelamie7001 2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for watching, Warhawk

    • @WarhawkBeyond2040
      @WarhawkBeyond2040 2 роки тому +1

      @@georgelamie7001 you're welcome and thanks for a very informative show. Looking forward to the next one

  • @johnhenfrey5936
    @johnhenfrey5936 2 роки тому +1

    Still catching up on my favourite shows after my holidays, thanks to everyone what a splendid way to spend 56 minutes! Just about caught up now.

    • @ericporter344
      @ericporter344 2 роки тому

      John, thank you for watching! Glad you enjoy the show!

  • @dragonfly1694
    @dragonfly1694 2 роки тому +4

    Cab is great, especially the albums with Dennis Chambers. Cab4 was actually their 3rd album (Chickenfoot stole that idea when they called their 2nd album Chickenfoot3).
    Chick Corea RIP

  • @Norshammar72
    @Norshammar72 2 роки тому +3

    Great show! Listening to the new Marbin now. 😍 it swings!

    • @ericporter344
      @ericporter344 2 роки тому +2

      Thanks Pontus

    • @Norshammar72
      @Norshammar72 2 роки тому +2

      @@ericporter344 I highly recommend the Norwegian record label Rune Grammofon. Check out bands like Elephant9, Krokofant and Hedvig Mollestad Trio. Fantastic Nordic fusion.

    • @wolf1977
      @wolf1977 2 роки тому

      @@Norshammar72 I have a bunch of Hedvig Mollestad albums, 7 I think. All Of Them Witches, Shoot, Ding Dong You're Dead & Smells Funny are really good. Wasn't into Elephant9 or Krokofant (a bit too far out for me)

  • @ericporter344
    @ericporter344 2 роки тому +1

    Pete makes a great point about Chick’s songwriting always leaving room for the other band members to do their thing!

  • @Norshammar72
    @Norshammar72 2 роки тому +2

    All these 4 albumw are new to me. Since time is limited I decided to do a MINI listen and compared the four opening cuts. The result went as follows:
    4,Chic Corea Electric Band
    3 Players
    2 Kick The Cat
    1 CAB
    Let’s say production standard has improved since the 80’s…😀

    • @ericporter344
      @ericporter344 2 роки тому +1

      Pontus, I agree with your ranking 😂

    • @wolf1977
      @wolf1977 2 роки тому

      Maybe but it's always about the actual music & playing foremost. To me the sound/production on Players isn't to the point of being distracting, actually sounds fine to me

  • @guillaumechabason3165
    @guillaumechabason3165 2 роки тому +4

    Carlos Rios shines on the Brother to brother album by Gino Vannelli

  • @JoeChewBaca
    @JoeChewBaca 2 роки тому +2

    That CAB album is on its way from Amazon. It looks like there's another one with Brian Auger on it. How's that one? It's gotta be good!

    • @ericporter344
      @ericporter344 2 роки тому +2

      It’s great. Auger is on the first one, one track

    • @georgelamie7001
      @georgelamie7001 2 роки тому +3

      They're all good. Have no fear!

  • @frank.s.castro
    @frank.s.castro 2 роки тому +2

    Great episode once again.
    My ranking would be:
    4th Kick the Cat (Need to find it an listen to the songs)
    3rd Players
    2nd The Chick Corea Elektric Band
    1st CAB

  • @marieginocchio222
    @marieginocchio222 2 роки тому +4

    Elektric band's first is a classic, Players in underrated I think

    • @wolf1977
      @wolf1977 2 роки тому

      I'd agree on Players, just a tremendous record & band

  • @bmboldt
    @bmboldt 2 роки тому +4

    I like the Freight Train Shuffle from Jeff Berlin's Pump It album. It has Frank Gambale and Paul Gilbert on that track.

    • @wolf1977
      @wolf1977 2 роки тому +2

      Paul Gilbert has really developed from a pure shredder to a complete musician IMO. I can still remember first hearing him on a Racer X album in the mid 80's

  • @JoeChewBaca
    @JoeChewBaca 2 роки тому +2

    It's because of Pete that I picked up that Players album a while back. Glad I did!

    • @wolf1977
      @wolf1977 2 роки тому

      A really all time great fusion album for me

  • @brianheason1272
    @brianheason1272 2 роки тому +1

    Hi George, had this message from Carlos Fischer, Hi Brian, thanks for writing. Unfortunately not yet. Only streaming or download. We have a Europe tour on august. We are bringing with us some physical copies. Will you be or have someone in Spain, Germany, Romania? We will be on those countries as we know by now.

  • @bmboldt
    @bmboldt 2 роки тому +3

    I saw Marbin about 10 years ago in a bar. There may have been 10 people there.

    • @ericporter344
      @ericporter344 2 роки тому +2

      I saw them a few years back, small crowd (50 or so). But, they were great, that show hooked me on them

  • @armonepaiomar6243
    @armonepaiomar6243 2 роки тому +1

    I wish The Brecker Brothers self title LP was included in this segment but keep Fusion alive my friends.

    • @georgelamie7001
      @georgelamie7001 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, that is a good one. Maybe a Part 2 in a few months

    • @ericporter344
      @ericporter344 2 роки тому

      Thanks for watching Armone, spread the word!

  • @BayouMaccabee
    @BayouMaccabee 2 роки тому +4

    It would be cool if Pete could do a video comparing the new Aristocrats/Primuz Orchestra album with the Gavin Harrison/Antoine Fafard album "Chemical Reactions", they are kind of similar. The Gavin Harrison/Antoine Fafard ("Chemical Reactions") album was my favorite release of 2020.

  • @edbe7385
    @edbe7385 2 роки тому +1

    This is a tough one for me its a toss up between CAB and Chick for my #1 and Players #3. At that time MacAlpine was a top 10 metal musician at 2 different instruments that puts him in a league of his own. Of course I wanted to hear him flex his muscles with fusion and was not disappointed, the keyboard solo in Elastic Man was an immediate re-wind, I couldn't get to the end of the song until I heard that solo a couple of times adding Chambers and Bunny on this pftt done deal. For Chick, Got a Match is probably one of my all time fusion songs and Chick always will hold a special place for me.
    Regarding Kick the Cat I don't have that one but a good story about them nonetheless. I went to small bar in Chicago to see my buddy Frank Lucas play (a great keyboardist that studied under Rudess) when his band was done the next band was setting up with they all had killer gear stuff that slackers couldn't afford. I was intrigued and figured to give these guys a chance, that band was Kick the Cat and being introduced them live was a jaw dropping experience.
    George turned me on the Lost Tribe back when it came out, yeah that's a really solid one.

  • @georgelamie7001
    @georgelamie7001 2 роки тому +7

    New Releases
    Kiyo * Sen - Exatune(EP)
    Marbin - Dirty Horse
    Carlos Fischer - Busqueda Infinita
    4 Square(all self-titled)
    Cab
    Chick Corea Elektric Band
    Kick the Cat
    Players
    George's Pick
    Lost Tribe(June)
    Kornet - Fritt Fall(July)

    • @frank.s.castro
      @frank.s.castro 2 роки тому +2

      George knows

    • @garyjoyce2160
      @garyjoyce2160 2 роки тому +2

      @@frank.s.castro lol. The new “ trademark tee shirt. Definitely!!👍💯

    • @frank.s.castro
      @frank.s.castro 2 роки тому +1

      @@garyjoyce2160 Yes, Gary. We need that shirt 😂

    • @wolf1977
      @wolf1977 2 роки тому +1

      If the new Kiyo * Sen sounds like Chocolate Booster then I'm in! Didn't really care for too much else though...From Lost Tribe I only liked Many Lifetimes...The s/t & Fritfall by Kornet were good (especially that first one)...I have nothing by Carlos Fischer

    • @garyjoyce2160
      @garyjoyce2160 2 роки тому +2

      GEORGE/ Friday night here in NJ. Played that short 1️⃣3️⃣+ min EP. Three spins KIYO*SEN Exatune. The first 6.57 min. nuange kicks 🦵 butt. Female drummer SENRI” - tremendous IMO digging this. Thank you 👍💯

  • @markslivka3806
    @markslivka3806 2 роки тому +3

    ✌️🎸👍

  • @VincentBautista365
    @VincentBautista365 2 роки тому +2

    Well, here I go.....Chick Corea's Electric Band was never my cup of tea, too close to Smooth Jazz! Players comes out of the Tribal Tech camp, also on that Smooth Jazz tip! Kick the Cat reminds me of Spyro Gyra and The Yellow Jackets a little on the Pop/Accessible side. CAB is a little more of what I like in fusion, but not by much. I make no apologies, I like what like....I know it when I hear it. A great show none the less...the discussions, like In the Prog Seat makes for a fantastic learning experience. 😉

    • @ericporter344
      @ericporter344 2 роки тому

      Thanks Vincent. Who are your favorites?

    • @VincentBautista365
      @VincentBautista365 2 роки тому +1

      @@ericporter344 Favorites...Mahavishnu Orchestra, Bruford, Jeff Beck, John Abercrombie, Return to Forever, Tony Williams, Soft Machine, Jean-Luc Ponty, Miles Davis, Herbie Hancock, (Early) Brand X, (Early) Weather Report, Gilgamesh, and Gong...to name a few. 😉

    • @ericporter344
      @ericporter344 2 роки тому

      @@VincentBautista365 classic 70s era, Love those as well

    • @VincentBautista365
      @VincentBautista365 2 роки тому +1

      @@ericporter344 I see the problem...In high school (1979-1982) one of my older cousins introduced me to Jean-Luc Ponty's 70's albums, that started me on my journey of 70's fusion in the 80's. So whenever I came across 80's fusion from my peers...it was sub-par to my ears. In the final years of the 80's, I discover Blue Note and Classic Jazz from the 50's and 60's. Between the 70's and 50's/60's jazz....80's fusion falls flat for me.

    • @wolf1977
      @wolf1977 2 роки тому +1

      @@VincentBautista365 We come from a similar place & have many similar fave fusion bands (Mahavishnu, JLP, Brand X, RTF, Beck etc) but I got into the genre in '75 (with Mahavishnu/Beck/JLP). But I never got into the jazzier stuff like Miles or Herbie or especially "straight" jazz, plus I'm primarily a guitar guy. To me Tribal Tech never sounded like fusak (a style I also dislike), Scott Henderson's playing has way too much edge & attack to it. Kick the Cat also has an edge that keeps it above the schmaltzier fuzak stuff like Spyro Gyra & much of the Yellowjackets catalog. Likewise Frank Gambale keeps that Electrik Band album afloat...
      Some great (to me anyway) 80's fusion: DiMeola, Holdsworth's Sand/Metal Fatigue/Atavacron/ Road Games, Billy Cobham's Glass Menagerie, Brand X, Elastic Rock Band, The Dregs, Fents, Fire Merchants, Full Moon, Fuse One, Gamalon, Gary Goyle, Greg Mathieson, Grotesk, JLP, Beck, Jeff Golub, Jerry Goodman, Joaquin Lievano, Scofield, Jukka Tolonen, Karizma, Kaseke, Kazumi Watanabe (great stuff), Loose Change, Simon Phillips, solo Steve Morse, Stu Hamm, Surgery, T Lavitz, Terje Rypdal, Tom Grant, UZEB, Wayne Johnson, Virgin's Dream, Zawinul Syndicate...
      Mostly guitar-based & much of it has 70's roots. Granted the 70's were fusion's heyday (and also for rock/prog in general) but I think there was a lot of fine fusion being made in the 80's as well

  • @wolf1977
    @wolf1977 2 роки тому +1

    I agree re: meager new releases lately in the fusion arena, I actually haven't gotten any new 2022 fusion albums in the past month. I've been filling in some missing/older holes though, like Adam Holzman's The Big Picture, Harvey Mason's Earth Mover, a bunch of Wayne Krantz albums especially Greenwich Mean (thx to Andy Edwards), Jean-Paul Bourelly's Rock The Cathartic Spirits: Vibe Music And The Blues! & Trippin', some Dave Weckl odds-and-ends, a 70's band called Contact Trio/New Marks, a bunch of Fromuz albums (they walk that prog/fusion line), Valeriy Stepanov Fusion Project esp Live 2, The Fusion Syndicate's debut, 80's band Elements' first two. And finally got a couple discussed on a prior fusion show: Fernando Molinari's Identidade (not quite as good as I'd hoped, I think his other two albums were better), and Alex Locofo's Beyond (great!).
    Andy Edwards also recently discussed how much he liked Vernon Reid's playing which made me go back & research his more jazz/fusion work prior to Living Colour. Other True Self & Known Unknown (with Masque) are killer fusion. I don't know how I missed his early 80's solo album but Jukka Tolonen's Just Those Boys (vintage Tolonen). Finally an early/mid 70's band called The Section which was totally new to me, their s/t plus Forward Motion & Fork It Over are wonderful, and Bonfire/Bonfire Goes Bananas from '75 (excellent)...
    For the 2022 new releases: Haven't heard the new Marbin yet but I liked Israeli Jazz, Goat Man, Last Chapter Of Dreaming, Aggressive Hippies (Breaking The Cycle & The Third Set were just OK). Just recently listened to their first/self-titled album, a bit to jazzy/laid back for me, plus their 2019 Strong Thing which I liked more ("Alabama Sock Party" is cool). So high hopes for this new one...Also no Carlos Fischer...The Aristocrats With Primuz Chamber Orchestra - I'm with Pete, I'm skeptical but haven't heard it yet. The track "Stupid 7" sounded pretty good though, the orchestra is kept "under control" such that the band can do their thing basically uninterrupted (which to me is really the only way such a pairing can work well). Same with "The Ballad Of Bonnie And Clyde". On "Jack's Back" the orchestra plays a larger role & I don't like that track as much...
    My rankings:
    1. Players - absolutely fantastic, sure it's a one-off pairing but I think it works wonderfully. 8 really good tracks, I was ecstatic when I first found this album. Also some of my all time fave players (pun intended) especially Berlin (his Crossroads album is good) & T Lavitz (his solo Storytime & And The Bad Habitz are very good albums). Really an easy #1 pick for me of these four albums and on my short list of best fusion albums (at least post 70's anyway)...
    2. Chick Corea Elektric Band - 4 smokin' tracks, to me Chick is often too jazz/not enough fusion when playing outside of RTF (his solo Paint The World is very good & solidly fusion, also Chinese Butterfly with Steve Gadd). Here Gambale keeps the fusion party going, also a somewhat overlooked player in general it seems to me. His solo albums & work with Ferenzik, Mvp, Vital Information & School Of The Arts is really good
    3. CAB - 3 solid tunes for me on their s/t debut: "The Watcher", "Night Splash" & "Boogie Me". Honestly on a different day I might switch #3 & #4 around or call it a tie...CAB 4 is a tremendous album, so is Theatre De Marionnettes. I love Tony MacAlpine, an early shredder who, like guys such as Marc Bonilla Ronnie Montrose Steve Lukather & Greg Howe, can also bring the fusion heat. Wonderful lineup, I really like Bunny Brunel's solo discog (esp Invent Your Future, LA Zoo Revisited & Momentum). No need to talk about Dennis Chambers' resume. Other great stuff from MacAlpine (not all fusion): Derek Sherinian's Oceana/several Planet X albums, G3/Live In Tokyo, Portnoy, Sheehan, MacAlpine & Sherinian/Live In Tokyo, plus 4 or so solo albums. Great player!
    4. Kick The Cat - just got Gurgle from 2021 (I liked 5 tracks), maybe their best. Scramble comes close for me. So their s/t debut is not bad, I like "Blow Me"/"Squirt"/"Temple Of Doom". Overall a really good band that to me has grown since their first release (anyway I like their subsequent albums more)

    • @ericporter344
      @ericporter344 2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for watching Wolf

    • @wolf1977
      @wolf1977 2 роки тому +1

      @@ericporter344 Rapidly becoming my fave SoT show, thx for doing it. Only Forgotten Favorites (hint hint) might top it...

    • @ericporter344
      @ericporter344 2 роки тому +1

      @@wolf1977 thanks Wolf, much appreciated