In response to DMs I have been receiving, I've created a small preset pack and LUT. Presets: joonrho.com/shop/p/sony-a6700-lr-preset-pack-1 These are presets that I have developed over the years and used extensively for past photos. LUT: joonrho.com/shop/p/base-lut-sony-s-log3 This is created from a colour-managed workflow for S-Log3 and should bring you to a strong starting point for grading. It would be great if you could support me by purchasing, but my goal is not to gate-keep so if it is cost-prohibitive please feel free to reach out to me on Instagram: instagram.com/joonrho/ Cheers, J
Thank you for your detailed performance reporting based on actual, real-world usage of the A6700. I, too, believe this is an outstanding camera value for any family or amateur photographer, especially if you're just starting out. You're getting essentially the very latest Sony technology from even their higher level full frame cameras in terms of auto-focus, picture and video quality and colour algorithms, etc. In short, you're basically getting an A7V, but with a crop sensor and only 1 card slot. As an amateur photographer who has had an A6000 since 2014, I can tell you that with APS-C, you are missing the full frame look and the higher level of detail and resolution that I regret not having for my travel pics, particularly of landscapes, having made use of the panoramic function especially. In short, for video and sharing pictures that will always be viewed on a monitor or TV, the value proposition of the A6700 can't be beat. The fact that you can also get incredible bird photos, due to the inherent additional crop factor of APS-C, and the availability of excellent telephoto lenses like the Sony FE 200-600 (full frame), makes this especially good for that. But if you want to take pictures that you might want to blow up and print to put on your wall, you will want an full frame format camera. I'm currently considering moving up to the Sony A7c II to get a full frame camera in a similar sized camera body to my A6000, but with the BIONZ XR processing chip in the A7RV/A6700. I think this will be my ideal camera for a while.
You really want to stick with Sony Flashes for flash. Keep the battery charged, and it just works. I trip that you are comparing this to pro setups. This is NOT a professional camera, it is a gateway camera that gives you really good results. If you used a 50GMF1.2 and Sony flash I think you would be very happy with the results. As far as overheating in video that is only an issue with 4k60 and xavc-si and xavc-hs... Use xavc-s and 24/30 and you can shoot all day without overheating. As for the size, add the small rig grip, completely changes the personality of the camera. For SD cards you only need v90 for 4k120 and Xavc-si If you have the money, the 1655G is the best one to use of the zooms you mentioned. If you have the ff 20G, use that on the a6700 and you will change your mind about the quality you are getting. The FX30 advantage are the dual card slots and the ability to take CFa cards. Otherwise the a6700 is the better hybrid. Solid video and fair... Subbed Liked and commented
Thanks for the video. If you like wide the Sigma 10-18/2.8 DC DN pairs perfectly with the 18-50/2.8. Also have used the Sony 15/1.4 G as an excellent wide prime for APS-C.
I can confirm that I’ve used that same trigger with the a6700 about 20 times and never had that issue. But I have gotten buggy items from godox in the past, bit of a mixed bag.
Thanks a lot for your detailed walkthrough for your three shoots. I'm considering upgrading from my ZVE 10 to the 6700 to vlog. Do you mind sharing - how was the stabilization with the active steady shot for you, is it good enough for vlogging? I ask because I have PTSD from the ZVE10s terrible stabilization and my sore gimbal arm, so I'm considering getting the ZVE1 just to get the dynamics stabilization but it's a lot more expensive and then I'd have to upgrade my lenses to full frame. The a6700 has pretty good stabilization I probably will just get that but there's actually not a ton of footage I've seen yet on it.
I feel you on the sore arm! For what it's worth, all the footage in the third gig in this video was shot handheld with the default IBIS settings (standard I believe?) Couple of videos that might help in your search: IBIS comparison between various systems - ua-cam.com/video/1m_yDChpLy0/v-deo.htmlsi=FU8dmxAYFvYyClVn I would imagine with Active Steady Shot you're going to get the "stickier" IBIS on the a6700. I've stuck with standard IBIS to minimize this on recent cameras, but I hear that it works wonders on the ZVE1. Admittedly haven't used it much on the 6700 so can't comment on it too much. All the footage in this video was also shot handheld, but not a lot of movement so may not be all that helpful: ua-cam.com/video/KKvXb19pTuU/v-deo.htmlsi=wzik_B3mDNLuoqi_ The a6700 feels similar to A7C IBIS, here is some A7C handheld (also standard IBIS settings) and some walking if memory serves me correctly: ua-cam.com/video/DfVVU6TSNvs/v-deo.htmlsi=x_eeMVie82IjE6M4 I've been meaning to do another follow up with the 6700 but not sure when I'll be able to get to it so hopefully that provides some help!
@@boywithacamera Ah interesting thoughts on IBIS. Yeah I went from a ZVE10 to a Pocket 2 so now I'm like a stickler for steadiness and no jitteries. Ah 2nd vid footage looked great - really like the chill music you picked with the sun setting vibe. Ahhh I see, ok this is super helpful. Yeah you got some beautiful shots - I think bc I move around a lot I might go for the ZVE1 with the dynamic stabilization or lean more on my Pocket.
@@boywithacamera its all good i saw that you answered them! this video makes me think maybe i should go full frame, and just stick with that, the a7cii the full frame of this camera for 2200 usd
Oh wow I completely forgot about the a7cii haha, yeah that might be the way to go although I'm not entirely sure if I'm speaking out of my ass about the difference between apsc and full frame just to be completely honest haha. I feel it, but not sure if it's just bias. My bet would be that the lowlight capabilities would be better with the a7cii though so that might swing you. Regardless, hope you grab a camera you love or use tons!
I haven't had any issues with the X2T and the a6700, but I've heard Godox triggers and flashes actually freezing the camera for some people. I'm on the newest firmware, but had no issues prior either.
Ah, I'm envious! But good to hear that you have no problems. I'll need to dive into the menus a bit more. Maybe user error on my part. I believe I'm on the newest firmware (I had checked after that shoot) but I'll have to give that another look. Thanks for sharing!
Great video, but there is definitely no relation between sensor size and sharpness of an image. Shooting environments, lenses (especially!) and various other factors may go into this, but sensors are sensors however large they are, and there's no such thing as a "sharper" sensor more than AA filters and megapixel count.
Thanks for the insights. Perhaps sharpness is the wrong thing to focus on. I did perceive what seemed like less details/information in the shadows (or maybe the image overall), however, even when shooting with flash. Any thoughts you could share on why that might be? Could it just be due to the lenses?
I've had a similar issues with flash, though only during one shoot. I haven't updated to the newest firmware though, in the off chance that fixes it. It usually happened when I turned off the trigger to shoot without flash and then turn it back on. I would have to turn off the flash itself and then it would work fine. I was using Godox as well. Also I'd recommend the smallrig baseplate, I have bigger hands than most but it lengthens the grip enough that it's more comfortable.
Ah lucky! I was on the latest firmware at the time (1.4 I think?) and didn't shoot without the flash so it was on the entire time. Sounds like you've had better luck than me for flash! Thank you for the baseplate recommendation, I'll give er a look!
Much appreciated! Strictly video-wise, they're neck and neck now that I understand colour grading a bit more than I used to. I might give the edge to the Canon R6ii for its build quality and better LCD screen/EVF. For lowlight, the FX3/A7S3 offer way more versatility with the high iso performance though. If I'm freelancing, I'd lean towards Sony personally because I know more Sony shooters if I need a second shooter or need to borrow something from a friend. I think the secondhand market is better here as well so that would play a factor.
Canon's colors are out of camera more pleasing (shrubbery really green, sky very blue) but Sony is more accurate. Doesn't matter if you can color grade. You need a cine camera to notice an impprovement to color grading as far as I'm aware
Hi, thank you for the informative video, ia m really confused about upgrading my a6300 to a6700 or a7c. More than video i do photography, is it worthy buying used a7c over a6700.? I am already having sony90mm macro and 55mm.1.8 zeiss lenses.
If you're just doing photography then the a7c might be a good choice for the full-frame sensor, especially since you have the 90 and 55mm. If you are ever going to shoot video then 10-bit is a really nice-to-have feature so I wouldn't look at the a7c mark I now that newer options at similar prices but with 10-bit video are available.
I can't say for sure as I haven't used the Fuji x-s20, but if you're leaning towards photo, I would say go for Fuji. They seem to be making a ton of progress on the video side of things (though I'm not sure what their IBIS is like now) and offer a much better photo experience in my opinion. Hope that helps!
Hi there! Great content, subscribed! I'm in Canada and trying to decide between ZV-e10 ($900) and A6700($1900) for UA-cam simple language teaching video content (indoors) (with Sigma 16mm). I have lights and sound already. Any suggestion on which one I should go for? Many thanks.
Hey, thanks for the kind words! It's awesome that you've prioritized sound and lighting. For a simple language teaching video indoors, my assumption would be that these factors are crucial: No 30min recording limit No overheating Ability to plug in the camera to power it Reliable autofocus Relatively easy-to-edit codec but manageable file sizes (assuming they're longer takes and you have a decent but not top-of-the-line computer) I'm not too familiar with the ZV-E10/no firsthand experience so I'd research based on those factors. If the camera is going to be stationary and you'll have ample lighting then things like ISO performance or IBIS probably wouldn't matter too much. One more thing might be to consider audio inputs if your microphone needs to be plugged into the camera. Hope that helps, let me know if you have any more questions!
Wowsers. What a great reply. It's so good to hear back from someone when you like their video content. And I really like your videos, they seem so honest compared to the hype-type videos for every new camera. I hope you can keep that vibe and grow your channel. There's lots of people like me trying to weed through the marketing and find real channels like yours.
Hey OP - I've been shooting most of my talking head UA-cam videos on my ZV-E10 and Sigma 16mm. If you have the budget and shooting in 10 bit for color grading is important (it hasn't really been for me) the a6700 seems awesome but for shooting talking heads on a tripod I can definitely recommend the ZV-E10. The image quality is great especially with the 16 mm. I usually shoot in 1080p so no overheating issues. If budget is important you I would recommend the ZV-E10. The biggest weakness of the ZV-E10 is the stability which is terrible, but that won't matter at all if you're on a tripod.
In response to DMs I have been receiving, I've created a small preset pack and LUT.
Presets: joonrho.com/shop/p/sony-a6700-lr-preset-pack-1
These are presets that I have developed over the years and used extensively for past photos.
LUT: joonrho.com/shop/p/base-lut-sony-s-log3
This is created from a colour-managed workflow for S-Log3 and should bring you to a strong starting point for grading.
It would be great if you could support me by purchasing, but my goal is not to gate-keep so if it is cost-prohibitive please feel free to reach out to me on Instagram: instagram.com/joonrho/
Cheers,
J
I just bought one from a liquidator for $699… so stoked and can’t wait to start using it! Great video!!!
Holy cow that's a no-brainer price for sure, congratulations! Appreciate the kind words and sharing the exciting news!
Thank you for your detailed performance reporting based on actual, real-world usage of the A6700. I, too, believe this is an outstanding camera value for any family or amateur photographer, especially if you're just starting out. You're getting essentially the very latest Sony technology from even their higher level full frame cameras in terms of auto-focus, picture and video quality and colour algorithms, etc. In short, you're basically getting an A7V, but with a crop sensor and only 1 card slot. As an amateur photographer who has had an A6000 since 2014, I can tell you that with APS-C, you are missing the full frame look and the higher level of detail and resolution that I regret not having for my travel pics, particularly of landscapes, having made use of the panoramic function especially. In short, for video and sharing pictures that will always be viewed on a monitor or TV, the value proposition of the A6700 can't be beat. The fact that you can also get incredible bird photos, due to the inherent additional crop factor of APS-C, and the availability of excellent telephoto lenses like the Sony FE 200-600 (full frame), makes this especially good for that. But if you want to take pictures that you might want to blow up and print to put on your wall, you will want an full frame format camera. I'm currently considering moving up to the Sony A7c II to get a full frame camera in a similar sized camera body to my A6000, but with the BIONZ XR processing chip in the A7RV/A6700. I think this will be my ideal camera for a while.
You really want to stick with Sony Flashes for flash. Keep the battery charged, and it just works. I trip that you are comparing this to pro setups. This is NOT a professional camera, it is a gateway camera that gives you really good results. If you used a 50GMF1.2 and Sony flash I think you would be very happy with the results.
As far as overheating in video that is only an issue with 4k60 and xavc-si and xavc-hs... Use xavc-s and 24/30 and you can shoot all day without overheating.
As for the size, add the small rig grip, completely changes the personality of the camera.
For SD cards you only need v90 for 4k120 and Xavc-si
If you have the money, the 1655G is the best one to use of the zooms you mentioned. If you have the ff 20G, use that on the a6700 and you will change your mind about the quality you are getting.
The FX30 advantage are the dual card slots and the ability to take CFa cards. Otherwise the a6700 is the better hybrid.
Solid video and fair... Subbed Liked and commented
Very insightful comment, thanks for sharing! I'll have to keep this in mind moving forward.
Agree the smallrig grip is fantastic
Thanks for the video. If you like wide the Sigma 10-18/2.8 DC DN pairs perfectly with the 18-50/2.8. Also have used the Sony 15/1.4 G as an excellent wide prime for APS-C.
Thanks for the info!
The a6700 portrait at 4:10 looks super sharp to me!
I can confirm that I’ve used that same trigger with the a6700 about 20 times and never had that issue. But I have gotten buggy items from godox in the past, bit of a mixed bag.
Ah, very jealous! Interestingly enough, this is the first time I've had any issues with Godox products.
I learned from this. Thank you.
Thank you for your time!
Thanks a lot for your detailed walkthrough for your three shoots.
I'm considering upgrading from my ZVE 10 to the 6700 to vlog. Do you mind sharing - how was the stabilization with the active steady shot for you, is it good enough for vlogging?
I ask because I have PTSD from the ZVE10s terrible stabilization and my sore gimbal arm, so I'm considering getting the ZVE1 just to get the dynamics
stabilization but it's a lot more expensive and then I'd have to upgrade my lenses to full frame.
The a6700 has pretty good stabilization I probably will just get that but there's actually not a ton of footage I've seen yet on it.
I feel you on the sore arm! For what it's worth, all the footage in the third gig in this video was shot handheld with the default IBIS settings (standard I believe?)
Couple of videos that might help in your search:
IBIS comparison between various systems - ua-cam.com/video/1m_yDChpLy0/v-deo.htmlsi=FU8dmxAYFvYyClVn
I would imagine with Active Steady Shot you're going to get the "stickier" IBIS on the a6700. I've stuck with standard IBIS to minimize this on recent cameras, but I hear that it works wonders on the ZVE1. Admittedly haven't used it much on the 6700 so can't comment on it too much.
All the footage in this video was also shot handheld, but not a lot of movement so may not be all that helpful: ua-cam.com/video/KKvXb19pTuU/v-deo.htmlsi=wzik_B3mDNLuoqi_
The a6700 feels similar to A7C IBIS, here is some A7C handheld (also standard IBIS settings) and some walking if memory serves me correctly: ua-cam.com/video/DfVVU6TSNvs/v-deo.htmlsi=x_eeMVie82IjE6M4
I've been meaning to do another follow up with the 6700 but not sure when I'll be able to get to it so hopefully that provides some help!
@@boywithacamera Ah interesting thoughts on IBIS. Yeah I went from a ZVE10 to a Pocket 2 so now I'm like a stickler for steadiness and no jitteries.
Ah 2nd vid footage looked great - really like the chill music you picked with the sun setting vibe.
Ahhh I see, ok this is super helpful. Yeah you got some beautiful shots - I think bc I move around a lot I might go for the ZVE1 with the dynamic stabilization or lean more on my Pocket.
aye, been looking forward to a update on the a6700!
Much love! A lot of your questions are near the end. I forgot to add timestamps so adding those now. :)
@@boywithacamera its all good i saw that you answered them! this video makes me think maybe i should go full frame, and just stick with that, the a7cii the full frame of this camera for 2200 usd
Oh wow I completely forgot about the a7cii haha, yeah that might be the way to go although I'm not entirely sure if I'm speaking out of my ass about the difference between apsc and full frame just to be completely honest haha. I feel it, but not sure if it's just bias. My bet would be that the lowlight capabilities would be better with the a7cii though so that might swing you. Regardless, hope you grab a camera you love or use tons!
I haven't had any issues with the X2T and the a6700, but I've heard Godox triggers and flashes actually freezing the camera for some people. I'm on the newest firmware, but had no issues prior either.
Ah, I'm envious! But good to hear that you have no problems. I'll need to dive into the menus a bit more. Maybe user error on my part. I believe I'm on the newest firmware (I had checked after that shoot) but I'll have to give that another look. Thanks for sharing!
Great video, but there is definitely no relation between sensor size and sharpness of an image. Shooting environments, lenses (especially!) and various other factors may go into this, but sensors are sensors however large they are, and there's no such thing as a "sharper" sensor more than AA filters and megapixel count.
Thanks for the insights. Perhaps sharpness is the wrong thing to focus on. I did perceive what seemed like less details/information in the shadows (or maybe the image overall), however, even when shooting with flash. Any thoughts you could share on why that might be? Could it just be due to the lenses?
I've had a similar issues with flash, though only during one shoot. I haven't updated to the newest firmware though, in the off chance that fixes it. It usually happened when I turned off the trigger to shoot without flash and then turn it back on. I would have to turn off the flash itself and then it would work fine. I was using Godox as well.
Also I'd recommend the smallrig baseplate, I have bigger hands than most but it lengthens the grip enough that it's more comfortable.
Ah lucky! I was on the latest firmware at the time (1.4 I think?) and didn't shoot without the flash so it was on the entire time. Sounds like you've had better luck than me for flash!
Thank you for the baseplate recommendation, I'll give er a look!
Great video. Thank you for the update. For video, do you prefer your Canon or Sony camera? I’ve always heard that Canon colors are much more pleasing.
Much appreciated! Strictly video-wise, they're neck and neck now that I understand colour grading a bit more than I used to. I might give the edge to the Canon R6ii for its build quality and better LCD screen/EVF. For lowlight, the FX3/A7S3 offer way more versatility with the high iso performance though.
If I'm freelancing, I'd lean towards Sony personally because I know more Sony shooters if I need a second shooter or need to borrow something from a friend. I think the secondhand market is better here as well so that would play a factor.
@@boywithacamera thank you for reply. I completely understand what you mean. Sony is really doing a good job. Again, thank you.
Canon's colors are out of camera more pleasing (shrubbery really green, sky very blue) but Sony is more accurate. Doesn't matter if you can color grade. You need a cine camera to notice an impprovement to color grading as far as I'm aware
What headphones are you wearing? great information in the video btw
Much appreciated! These are some old Shure SE215 clears
@@boywithacamera thank you
Hi, thank you for the informative video, ia m really confused about upgrading my a6300 to a6700 or a7c. More than video i do photography, is it worthy buying used a7c over a6700.? I am already having sony90mm macro and 55mm.1.8 zeiss lenses.
If you're just doing photography then the a7c might be a good choice for the full-frame sensor, especially since you have the 90 and 55mm. If you are ever going to shoot video then 10-bit is a really nice-to-have feature so I wouldn't look at the a7c mark I now that newer options at similar prices but with 10-bit video are available.
@@boywithacamera thanks
i am in a quandary between the a6700 or the fuji x-s20. photo 60% video 40%. your thoughts?
I can't say for sure as I haven't used the Fuji x-s20, but if you're leaning towards photo, I would say go for Fuji. They seem to be making a ton of progress on the video side of things (though I'm not sure what their IBIS is like now) and offer a much better photo experience in my opinion. Hope that helps!
Hi there! Great content, subscribed! I'm in Canada and trying to decide between ZV-e10 ($900) and A6700($1900) for UA-cam simple language teaching video content (indoors) (with Sigma 16mm). I have lights and sound already. Any suggestion on which one I should go for? Many thanks.
Hey, thanks for the kind words! It's awesome that you've prioritized sound and lighting.
For a simple language teaching video indoors, my assumption would be that these factors are crucial:
No 30min recording limit
No overheating
Ability to plug in the camera to power it
Reliable autofocus
Relatively easy-to-edit codec but manageable file sizes (assuming they're longer takes and you have a decent but not top-of-the-line computer)
I'm not too familiar with the ZV-E10/no firsthand experience so I'd research based on those factors. If the camera is going to be stationary and you'll have ample lighting then things like ISO performance or IBIS probably wouldn't matter too much.
One more thing might be to consider audio inputs if your microphone needs to be plugged into the camera.
Hope that helps, let me know if you have any more questions!
Wowsers. What a great reply. It's so good to hear back from someone when you like their video content.
And I really like your videos, they seem so honest compared to the hype-type videos for every new camera. I hope you can keep that vibe and grow your channel. There's lots of people like me trying to weed through the marketing and find real channels like yours.
Very much appreciated! Let me know if there are more topics you'd like me to hit in the future :)
Hey OP - I've been shooting most of my talking head UA-cam videos on my ZV-E10 and Sigma 16mm. If you have the budget and shooting in 10 bit for color grading is important (it hasn't really been for me) the a6700 seems awesome but for shooting talking heads on a tripod I can definitely recommend the ZV-E10. The image quality is great especially with the 16 mm. I usually shoot in 1080p so no overheating issues.
If budget is important you I would recommend the ZV-E10.
The biggest weakness of the ZV-E10 is the stability which is terrible, but that won't matter at all if you're on a tripod.
If that is not a camera you are enjoy to use, whitch one is?
For video I think I have a soft spot for the Blackmagic pocket cameras and for photography, I'm loving the hell out of the Leica M-P 240