Specially when you have a competent sniper. It helps them out a lot for the heavy to turn around and move backwards towards them, instead of making their screen bounce like your grandma's birthday checks.
@@MrPaladin personally I think Heavy is the worst TF2 class just because of how weak they are to spies and snipers. I know there are ways to protect yourself but what's the point of being a tank when you are that vulnerable?
@voltaire It depends on how you play heavy and on your team. If they keep away the spies from your back and prevent the sniper from having enough time to shoot, you can achieve much. This demonstrates again why there is 'team' in TF2
@@brogflea6380 I understand, but in 75% of matches your team is unreliable. I'm not saying heavy is useless all of the time, just that he is the worst class in TF2.
I love how you're so patient with kills and knowing when to leave a situation. Thats one of my biggest weakness whenever I play spy. I always try to go for the kills to the point where I end up dying myself. Or if I get caught I just pull out my revolver yeah I might kill them but what now? 3 of their teammates are now on me and I'm dead.
yep, a few clips I look at I go "maybe I could have stayed there and pushed the extra kill" but most of that is 20/20 hindsight and I was better off nope-ing out and staying a persistent annoyance.
a good example in this clip is the "should I trickstab that pyro" moment... that hill is very bad to engage on and if I failed the trick I would have been in a spot that there was no escape from. As you said any of his other teammates from spawn could/would have seen my attempt.
How should you change strategies once you’ve stabbed enough people that the entire team is paranoid and aware? After the initial phase where it doesn’t even cross their mind that there might be a spy. Besides sticking to it and going for picks when enough of a distraction presents itself, should you switch things up and focus on distracting the enemy team and stemming that paranoia further?
-Loop around the map and get into the flow of enemies. -Mimic enemy movement, the closer to the individual the better -Dont run on a small check, they may fall for it without hitsounds -Keep off for a bit as they will be busy spy checking insteat of attack/defense
Describing being a spy as using misdirection is wonderful and so true -that is such great wording and very helpful. I love your videos so much and can attribute much of what I know as spy to your videos. Still, I prioritize just sapping over kills, and don't tend to go spy unless there are things to sap -or the rare occasions that there aren't already 2 other ones. I am just not confident in backstabs. It seems like so many of my stabs miss and I'm always dying so frequently, although that's a part of learning, too -from mistakes. But still, I can have positioning, misdirection, etc. all on my side and somehow things end up going south, seemingly more often than not. The knife doesn't land, and suddenly the person decides to then and so I try hiding again, giving up if they find me again and shooting. It all ends up in rapid death, so I just tell myself "Welp, just go do some sapping and then get out. Stop trying to be a stabber like normal spies." He's my second most played class besides Medic (because if my teammates can't get the sentry or teleporter down while I'm healing them, I decide to go do it myself as spy) and while I feel somewhat comfortable with him, I just don't seem to be able to nail stabs very often. It's discouraging, but I keep watching your videos and trying things out to see if I can get those rare chainstabs I get once in a blue moon. Forget trickstabs -I just want normal stabs first! I don't know if I'll ever reach trickstab level success, but hey, you gotta start somewhere.
“The engie doesn’t pursue me the whole time because he’s distracted.” Meanwhile, even while it seems the enemy is distracted, they will manage to kill me, even while not ubered, completely focused on someone else, because my backstab, while in the middle of their bloody spine, was apparently not a backstab, without fail
Also true about the heavy thing. As a certified heavy main myself. A way to counter spys is firing at the enemy teams in hoping for spies to come and backstab me and BAM! I quickly turn around! It's honestly a really good strategy as well as shooting corners or areas where spies tend to cloak I usually catch a few spies off guard to the point where I get called a cheater.
My favorite lines: Spy: "Your precious sandwich won't save you now, fatty." "I appear to have burst into flames." Scout: "Heyyyyyyy, nice hustle tons of fun, next time eat a salad." Sniper: "STaBBy sTaBbY".(I think?)
It blows my mind how Spy Pros are able to pull off stabs as the one at 8:32 Everytime it seems I have a whack at spy I can literally be right behind a dude, breathing down his neck and the hit attack wont register as a backstab. Spy is such a strange class.
Spy is one of my least played classes, mostly because I tend to be too passive when playing him. I'll usually go with the CnD and camp for minutes on end before maybe snagging one or two kills. I know that a good spy can be a nightmare for the other team, but i feel that going heavy, engineer or medic can be more helpful to my own team in most cases.
I'm so bad at being patient at Spy that if I miss a backstab I'll just cloak away, come back, and load them full of Diamondback shots just to get rid of them
As we see an as of yet, undiscovered species of snake. Its camoflogue is so good, that it is practically invisible, and its venom so deadly, that it can kill at light speed. The Mistapaladinnus backstabbium.
I luv you MrP you show me everyday something nice with that my skill gets higher and the fun in your videos just awesome thank you for teaching me and some other people how to encounter and how to play spy better or jag always crits is cool too.
Aginst newbies I disguise as whatever, against intermediate I use scout as thoose snipers usually dont know about hitbox locations, against good players I use spy. The least suspicous for other not as good players, as a spy behind enemy lines is just normal, least amount of item glitches, and good snipers will aim for the spys hitbox on a scout visual anyway
I think wisely ever time I pick a disguise, I pick a target then I disguise as a helpful unit to that target For example if I’m targeting a medic I will use a heavy disguise, if I am targeting a engi I will use a pyro, if a heavy is the target then a medic will do great, I even think tactically if I see two people defending I will stab one then disguise as him to kill the other. If you use the disguise kit wisely it can be the most dangerous weapon in your arsenal.
I watch your tutorial on I went into the game I got so many stabs thank you for teaching me with that and thanks for making these videos they’re really so thank you thank you very much videos
idea how you do it, paladin, I could probably describe how each backstab scenario you were successful in would have gone wrong for me like they're some games where ppl just turn around or check a spot in the most unfortunate time for me especially that double soldier kill towards the end i woulda got one then the other one would have noticed for sure
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Best part about spy is either you can capitalize on your team being a distraction or YOU are the distraction for your team. its great.
Specially when you have a competent sniper. It helps them out a lot for the heavy to turn around and move backwards towards them, instead of making their screen bounce like your grandma's birthday checks.
HEY LOOK OVER THERE!!!! (stab)
MrPaladin lmao
U amazing 😉
(gasp) There's something in your back!
(stab)
IT WAS DEATH!
NO, ITS FACESTAB!!!!
Where *rasor bacc*
>:3
That Heavy on Badwater must be sick of you right now
sometimes I wish I could see their team comms... see if he is shouting at his scouts or pyro for not watching for the spy!
@@MrPaladin personally I think Heavy is the worst TF2 class just because of how weak they are to spies and snipers. I know there are ways to protect yourself but what's the point of being a tank when you are that vulnerable?
@voltaire It depends on how you play heavy and on your team. If they keep away the spies from your back and prevent the sniper from having enough time to shoot, you can achieve much. This demonstrates again why there is 'team' in TF2
@@brogflea6380 I understand, but in 75% of matches your team is unreliable. I'm not saying heavy is useless all of the time, just that he is the worst class in TF2.
Vol- that's why they often have pocketed medics... powerful if they are protected!
Ur like Bob Ross of Tf2 and its awsome
*BEAT THE DEVIL OUTTA IT"
Bro was just thinking that
Spencer56 No it’s *STAB THE DEVIL OUT OF IT*
Its rare to see a spy main that’s nice mr p is bob Ross they weren’t in a room together
Bob Ross, but he teaches people how to play as a murdering invisible Frenchman
I love how you're so patient with kills and knowing when to leave a situation. Thats one of my biggest weakness whenever I play spy. I always try to go for the kills to the point where I end up dying myself. Or if I get caught I just pull out my revolver yeah I might kill them but what now? 3 of their teammates are now on me and I'm dead.
yep, a few clips I look at I go "maybe I could have stayed there and pushed the extra kill" but most of that is 20/20 hindsight and I was better off nope-ing out and staying a persistent annoyance.
@@MrPaladin Yeah. You never know if another teamate might show up resulting into that "extra kill" into your death.
a good example in this clip is the "should I trickstab that pyro" moment... that hill is very bad to engage on and if I failed the trick I would have been in a spot that there was no escape from. As you said any of his other teammates from spawn could/would have seen my attempt.
@@MrPaladin True true. It's always a gamble with situations like those and I like playing with fire sometimes a little too much
I like how this comment is just you both talking
* teleports behind you *
“No hard feelings, kiddo”
* jumps forward and does a 180 simultaneously *
"NOPEyoudon't!"
* grabs Haladie and slices horizontally *
"Nope, you don't!"
@@kingcheese3175 That was a year ago. Can confirm I am no longer like that.
@Chic 'N' Stu and let's also account for you.
Seriously though. It can be intertaining to look back at your own comment from a year ago.
Everyone calling sean cringey, but we all gonns ignore op
Whenever I die and a teammate kills the one who killed me, I call it a distraction
Me too, but i do that only to feel better about myself
I call it "welp, maybe I should have picked up the Kunai instead".
You're not wrong.
You got something on ur back!
* Stabs *
*IT WAS PAIN!*
i see what you did there
No! It was my boot shoved up Your ass!
Mr. P is magician confirmed, I guess it explains why he is so good at the game
Nah he's Dr strange
@@theconductoresplin8092 Mr Doctor? Its complicated
@@MrPaladin: I just saw 400000 different futures
Me: and in how many did you comment back and ♥️
Mr paladin: *one*
@@MrPaladin doctor who?
Spy: “You disgust me fat man.”
MrPaladin: “And see this is a typical case for heavies in particular.”
Mr. P : *whispering* its free backstabs
*Stabs heavy*
Medics:
*REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE*
Pretty much anything will get that reaction out of most medic.
*stabs pocket*
Pocket medic:
*REAL SHIT*
6:27 - Love that spy swan diving off the cliff.
Nothing more satisfying than saving a team mate or having one of them save you from a bad situation
How should you change strategies once you’ve stabbed enough people that the entire team is paranoid and aware? After the initial phase where it doesn’t even cross their mind that there might be a spy.
Besides sticking to it and going for picks when enough of a distraction presents itself, should you switch things up and focus on distracting the enemy team and stemming that paranoia further?
see my videos on Paranoia... I have footage of teams and players who are hyper paranoid.
-Loop around the map and get into the flow of enemies.
-Mimic enemy movement, the closer to the individual the better
-Dont run on a small check, they may fall for it without hitsounds
-Keep off for a bit as they will be busy spy checking insteat of attack/defense
TBH this is the absolutely most important concept for killing as spy in my experience
8:32 the dirtiest way TF2 can treat you. 100% pure unrefined face-stab. Even if a Sol had 100% random crits all match long it wouldn't be as dirty.
Mallory SF dude watch it in slow motion
8:31 Excuse me what
Mr.P should do a vid (or anyone) of all the times he has said “I love the kuni”
Describing being a spy as using misdirection is wonderful and so true -that is such great wording and very helpful. I love your videos so much and can attribute much of what I know as spy to your videos. Still, I prioritize just sapping over kills, and don't tend to go spy unless there are things to sap -or the rare occasions that there aren't already 2 other ones.
I am just not confident in backstabs. It seems like so many of my stabs miss and I'm always dying so frequently, although that's a part of learning, too -from mistakes. But still, I can have positioning, misdirection, etc. all on my side and somehow things end up going south, seemingly more often than not. The knife doesn't land, and suddenly the person decides to then and so I try hiding again, giving up if they find me again and shooting. It all ends up in rapid death, so I just tell myself "Welp, just go do some sapping and then get out. Stop trying to be a stabber like normal spies."
He's my second most played class besides Medic (because if my teammates can't get the sentry or teleporter down while I'm healing them, I decide to go do it myself as spy) and while I feel somewhat comfortable with him, I just don't seem to be able to nail stabs very often. It's discouraging, but I keep watching your videos and trying things out to see if I can get those rare chainstabs I get once in a blue moon. Forget trickstabs -I just want normal stabs first! I don't know if I'll ever reach trickstab level success, but hey, you gotta start somewhere.
“The engie doesn’t pursue me the whole time because he’s distracted.”
Meanwhile, even while it seems the enemy is distracted, they will manage to kill me, even while not ubered, completely focused on someone else, because my backstab, while in the middle of their bloody spine, was apparently not a backstab, without fail
Ah yes, distractions.
It always help getting backstabs.
Nice video! :)
What's amazing is at 3:44 that pyro that *did* look at you, trusted you. He saw you and didn't suspect you as a spy.
This is why a short attention span is required to beat MrP. Give up on focusing your target, turn around, surprise, he’s there, or not lmao.
* Spy points on me with his hand *
Me: *"I AM A DISTRACTION!!!"*
8:06 I wonder what that Sniper was trying to do from spawn.
5:25 this is the moments that tells you in that paladin is not the average spy main
I love an og tf2 UA-camr that still posts.
Next time do one on getting to the back lines, because this requires that skill, and I don’t have it.
8:12 isn’t that the same BLU Sniper at the end of “The Art of Spychecking”
when you work hard like this, and your team thinks spy is useless and call kick if they saw that you failstabbed once
4:14
I just love how the demo reacts.
I always disguise as hoovy
Mr Paladin channeling Monty Python in the opening there. "The value of not being seen" :P
Also true about the heavy thing. As a certified heavy main myself. A way to counter spys is firing at the enemy teams in hoping for spies to come and backstab me and BAM! I quickly turn around! It's honestly a really good strategy as well as shooting corners or areas where spies tend to cloak I usually catch a few spies off guard to the point where I get called a cheater.
This channel never fails me.
I legit watch your videos just to counter spies.
-A Salty Medic Main
My favorite lines: Spy: "Your precious sandwich won't save you now, fatty." "I appear to have burst into flames." Scout: "Heyyyyyyy, nice hustle tons of fun, next time eat a salad." Sniper: "STaBBy sTaBbY".(I think?)
This series: *shows how professional spies play*
Me, a pyro main: interesting
Best spy player ever:)
P.s heavys ,,free realestate"
heavies back is always free spy real estate ;)
What is a "Heavy"? You might mean "Full Portable Medkit" or it's synonims "Mobile Speed Pad" and "Walking Free Disguise".
Thanks for the great advice! Really nice video👍👌👌
been getting back into tf2 lately, glad to see you're still making videos!
8:32, that stab on the medic tho
Let the magic do its work Mr.P aint a magician hes magic himself
10:54 LMAO, fired a crit right after that bot did xD
It blows my mind how Spy Pros are able to pull off stabs as the one at 8:32 Everytime it seems I have a whack at spy I can literally be right behind a dude, breathing down his neck and the hit attack wont register as a backstab. Spy is such a strange class.
You look like bob ross of tf2.
Always calm and doing a great job.
0:15 Was i the only one who immediately thought of that "How not to be seen" Monty Python sketch? :D
good day all mester paladin here and today i want you to upload more and make more spy think couse we like you! keap going!
:)
Thanks for the video, you are an youtuber who makes my day
:)
Thank you for the vid Mr. P :) I still play TF2 mainly so I (and the rest of us) really appreciate it! Love your footage always
You're more than welcome :)
5:25 You can't have a baguette without a little *butter*
YES ANOTHER HOW A SPY THINKS!
On badwater you had a 18 kill streak.
well now I can finally call mr paladin the penn and teller of tf2
3:11 "You disgust me, fat man."
It would be impossible to play against a teacher, they have eyes behind their head!
That poor heavy getting killed whenever he spins his minigun or doesn't pay attention for a second. I'd be pissed if that was me.
Being s spy is like: "We live among people now, hiding in plain sight, but watching over them in secret, waiting, protecting"
MrPaladin has mastered the art of not being seen. MrPaladin, would you stand up, please?
7:51 we took a double donk to the head xD
Spy is one of my least played classes, mostly because I tend to be too passive when playing him. I'll usually go with the CnD and camp for minutes on end before maybe snagging one or two kills.
I know that a good spy can be a nightmare for the other team, but i feel that going heavy, engineer or medic can be more helpful to my own team in most cases.
I'm so bad at being patient at Spy that if I miss a backstab I'll just cloak away, come back, and load them full of Diamondback shots just to get rid of them
I didn't know Bob Ross had a tf2 UA-cam channel
People say MrPalidan is bad, he’s not
Grampa Paladin is like the bob ross of tf2
I swear, MrPaladin is like the Bob Ross of TF2
I swear, this comment is a copy
I'm sad such an amazing channel and spy player isn't gettin them views he used to, and the views he deserves.
Thanks for the new video Mr.Paladin im getting better ^^
At 0:13, when Mr.P killed the enemy sniper, a unique hitsound played in the background. What's the name of that hitsound?
Ohhhh yeah another mrpaladin vid u just made my day
u are sooo amazing
Any thoughts on disguising as your own teammates to protect an important ally or to distract.?
The best spy guide
As we see an as of yet, undiscovered species of snake. Its camoflogue is so good, that it is practically invisible, and its venom so deadly, that it can kill at light speed. The Mistapaladinnus backstabbium.
I luv you MrP you show me everyday something nice with that my skill gets higher and the fun in your videos just awesome thank you for teaching me and some other people how to encounter and how to play spy better or jag always crits is cool too.
I always rely on distractions whenever i play spy. The more i did it, the more i realise that no matter how good you are, you WILL get backstabbed
0:36 Prepare for Mass Backstabs
You're videos help me fall asleep thanks 😄
I mean this in a good way lol
Disguise as spy, hold out fake gun, say incoming repeatedly, jump and walk backwards into enemies until you can see their backs
Aginst newbies I disguise as whatever, against intermediate I use scout as thoose snipers usually dont know about hitbox locations, against good players I use spy.
The least suspicous for other not as good players, as a spy behind enemy lines is just normal, least amount of item glitches, and good snipers will aim for the spys hitbox on a scout visual anyway
Most spies use distractions to their advantage, but when I play spy I am the distraction lol
Same
Mr Paladin, only becoz of ur vids I was able to get my first Trickstab,..... a metadoor stab.....feeling proud! xD
That poor heavy.
Upload more please, your videos are just amazing
Those were some good clips mr.paladin
I think wisely ever time I pick a disguise, I pick a target then I disguise as a helpful unit to that target
For example if I’m targeting a medic I will use a heavy disguise, if I am targeting a engi I will use a pyro, if a heavy is the target then a medic will do great, I even think tactically if I see two people defending I will stab one then disguise as him to kill the other. If you use the disguise kit wisely it can be the most dangerous weapon in your arsenal.
the heavy has to be soooo pissed XD
I dont need to be told how not to be seen, because if you get caught you may explode. Learned that from Monty Python
I’ve been binge watching ur series
I have videos in playlists on the channel page to help out with that :)
He's alive!
We know the best distraction is the not distraction nothing is more distracting then thinking it is a distraction while it isnt a distraction
I've been waiting for another video...
yay!
I watch your tutorial on I went into the game I got so many stabs thank you for teaching me with that and thanks for making these videos they’re really so thank you thank you very much videos
I just crafted the sharp dresser. Only took two tries. Or I guess if we're thinking on one day it took one try.
idea how you do it, paladin, I could probably describe how each backstab scenario you were successful in would have gone wrong for me like they're some games where ppl just turn around or check a spot in the most unfortunate time for me especially that double soldier kill towards the end i woulda got one then the other one would have noticed for sure
When I see your videos I think mmh spy is sooo OP. Then I try to play spy and I think mmmh spy is actually pretty difficult!
10:52 what? why there a bot in casual? is that new casual one?
Would you ever be interested in doing a Collab with a Sniper main channel discussing the aspects of 'spy sense' and spy checking?
Thanks for stabbing that pyro twice!
Only twice?