Blue Marvel Fights The Beyonders: Defenders Beyond Part 2 (Comics Explained)
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- We're back with Defenders Beyond featuring Blue Marvel, Eternity, America Chavez, Galactus' Mom and...The Beyonders? The adventure begins - in the path of the Beyonder! When Loki, Blue Marvel, America Chavez, Taaia and Tigra land rather unexpectedly in the Second Cosmos, they find their lives in the hands of its cosmic overseers - unless Loki can figure out the right trick to save them all.
▸ What are The Beyonders: The Beyonders are a fictional enigmatic higher-dimensional race appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. The Beyonders are a race of extra-dimensional entities that were created by the Celestials following the creation of the Second Cosmos, the first multiverse, in the Celestial War. They were originally called "Omegas" by the Celestials. When the Second Cosmos ended and was reborn as the next iteration of the multiverse, the Omegas observed from the outside and thus became known as the Beyonders. The Beyonders have been witnessed killing all of the Celestials in the Marvel multiverse at the same time, destroying abstract entities such as Eternity and Infinity, and three members of the race together managed to kill the Living Tribunal itself. The Beyonders are what Doctor Doom calls "linear beings". Despite their vast powers and knowledge, they seem unable to travel forward or backward in time.[14] They have also displayed other limitations, as an explosion strong enough to destroy a few thousand universes was sufficient to kill them.
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I strongly feel that (BLUE MARVEL) deserves his own cartoon show series, and he deserves to appear in the new cartoon shows.
He should get a movie
@@RONIN1992 Cartoon show fits better.
They just decided to grab as many OP people as they could for this story and I’m here for it.
Question: If The One Above All got the powers of the Beyonders, would he be... The One Beyond All? 🤔
@@CieJe.Alexander That is now my head cannon. Tha k you
Thank* God damn phone
Good name, friend.
@@CieJe.Alexander- no, he can't, because I'm Jonathan Hickman's comic-book series *"Time Runs Out"* new answers and secret Wars proves that point that TOAA can't do that, for the fact that the beyond realm wasn't created by TOAA. Jim shooter and Stan Lee confirmed that in 1984-85
Damn Al Ewing really likes to expand Marvel's cosmology. I love it!
Seriously
Yea this is another banger of a video. It's really about to get insane between the Phoenix and a Beyonder.
And there’s that wonderful Power Creep that comes with comics.
“The Beyonders managed to eradicate every cosmic being in the multiverse. Including the Living Tribunal! So anyway, there’s this mask, right, that gives you power equal to a Beyonder…”
You're everywhere are you Omnipresence!
Yeah which is kinda ridiculous because eternity also died to the beyonders
It never fails!
It's a writer's entropy effect that requires a reset, like DC does all the time. That whole Hulk making the One Above All, me, Hulk out was going way too far with such a simple character. Maybe that's why he looked like the art was a deflated rubbery balloon. Does every writer dream of creating the most powerful character going the Occam's Razor route these days?
Plus, it’s worse since Marvel fans will use this to hype up Blue Marvel as an opponent against Superman.
Blue marvel destroying the physical form of the beyonder has a lot of context to it
It wasn’t just anti matter vs matter
Lol, no.
So the Molecule Man is the same in every universe, that means the Marquis of Death really just hand waved away a multiversal power.
one of his avatars
I hope al ewing and kevin grevioux can come together and make another blue marvel solo series and also heavily involve his sons (mainly kevin ).
Yeah that would be cool
Yes we can come together
He needs a rogues gallery .
I swear if those two don't come together make a blue marble movie I'll be so pissed
I really enjoyed the way the Phoenix Force is written in Defenders: Beyond.
Cannot wait for the Phoenix Force to be free from the clutches of Jason Aaron and Echo.
That cliff hanger got me! Can't wait for the next video!
I was always under the impression that the Beyonders were like....when it came to the cosmic hierarchy of Marvel were these beings that transcended literally every cosmic entity EXCEPT The One Above All.
Y! When the Movers told The High Evolutionary. I rather take on an 100 of y than ONE Beyonder
I always knew the Phoenix, TOAA and the beyonders we're the top hierarchy of marvel tho. Or that's what I always thought.
FINALLY! I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO! THANK YOU ROB!
Man it’s 0:02 into this bud. Ultimates2 was one of the best thugs to come out of Marvel for decades and I am so hyped to hear more about this
I was so excited I couldn’t spell! I meant to say vid not bud.
The more we find out about the Beyonders the less interesting and powerful they seem.
Yeah the writers just can't leave things be
Stories now just destroy the lore of of everything created before.
@@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 Agreed Nonsense. Utter nonsense. Al H sucks anyway
ok
It kind of like Q form star trek
They keep making them weaker
exploring these crazy higher concepts/ dimensions and powers makes it so interesting
Are the Beyonders considered "alive"? Because if so, yes, the Phoenix (at least in its entirety) by definition contains all their power along with everything else.
The real question is: Can it actually draw on all of it without shattering reality? Most of it might be bound up in the existence of the White Hot Room itself, essentially serving as the Omniverse's life force.
Not saying that I disagree with you, but I don’t think the Phoenix’ power works like that. It does represent the nexus of all life past, present and future. But I didn’t think that meant it had all the powers too. I could be wrong🤷🏽♂️
If your point is true then my question is this: can you forcibly separate your portion of said power from the phoenix? because I feel like the whole point of The Beyonders at least in the past is that they were completely alien to the Marvel omniverse, so nothing was ready or knew of them until they wished it so.
Wouldn’t be they be able exempt as their name implies? This is starting to look like a game of Magic the Gathering. Whose global enchantment/spell is more powerful and all encompassing.
I dont think they count tbh if not phoenix would be second to the OAA but she's not
@@emman6793 She might be, but most of it is bound up in the White-Hot Room and she can only project a part of that into the universes at a time (as the Phoenix Force we know) - and channel even less through hosts. I like solutions like that because they allow writers to scale an entity's power depending on what the story calls for, but still keep a logical consistency:
Need her to be OP? Find a way for the plot to access the White-Hot Room, where she is at her most powerful.
Want to keep her limited? Well, seems like she currently also projects herself into other universes, so you're only working with a fraction of her power right now.
I needed this thank you Rob and comics explained for consistent greatness lol 💯✌🏿
Such a cool story and professionally broken down Rob ! 🎉
That's it, Rob, I'm putting this channel in WATCH LATER, and use it like a Comics Explained DVR mode so I can binge watch. Anti-Cliffhanger mode activated. I've never liked that saying, some things are worth the wait, nope, nuh uh, not your videos. They are best to watch in it's entirety, too good for cliffhangers, only worth the wait to watch it all at once, yep. You get me every single time.. Thanks for doing what you do for everyone, man lemme tell you, you should write these, get with Rippa and bring us the Robverse.
Yeah I've been saying the same thing (and we're obviously not alone) that Rob should write his own comic. Whether limited series or continuing one.
I think he's got something cooking, we just don't smell the aroma!
Let's hope he does. He's gonna run out of comics to review if they keep up this clown culture change.
The Beyonders logic: We need to destroy everything in order to save everything from being destroyed😂😂😂
A well written Phoenix, someone show Jason Aaron. Please, seriously!
I take issue with the celestials creating the beyonders part. Logic, reasoning and the marvel hierarchy all falls apart.
Yeah. I agree. The Beyonders were way more powerful than the celestials
Bro, same. It makes no sense seeing as how one soloed them back in the day
When was that said?
@@millasboo rewatch it. It said the beyonders were made as a failsafe against the celestials warring with each other since the last one broke the universe into a multiverse
@@torrancemoore6152 made as a failsafe by whom?
Could you make a breakdown video of Elaine Belloc? I’d like to know more about she pars as being the successor of the Presence.
Yu suck for that cliff hanger at the end 😂😂😂 great vid as always 🔥💪🏾
The White Hot Room sounds like a high class Gentlemen's Club.
~_~
I didn't the story where the Far Shore was introduced/established/mentioned, but I have read that the White Hot Room was beyond the Far Shore which was the farthest point of creation or something so I think it's long since been established that the True Multiversal Phoenix or whatever it's called is beyond the Beyonders.
Yes. It’s within the Mystery, where the realms of the one above all and other higher realms are located.
Phoenix will finally get the attention she deserves
Still isn't above the current beyonder tho
@@Vincesjones she is
@@Vincesjones him destroying walls of the house doesn’t make him above her
Well as it's been stated that he's aware of the retcon that TOAA given to him, and even TOAA stated that no one could escape house of ideas without the knowledge and power from himself.
Phoenix wasn't even above the tiger god lmao
@@Vincesjones toaa never stated that first second it wasn’t toaa who retconned him it was omega beyonder who viewed those phases of his life pre retcon and post retcon and inhuman mutant beyonder as retcons of his life and they are below omega beyonder who is below toaa and phoenix as for him escaping the house of ideas that doesn’t but him above neither is the one above all or the Phoenix as god of stories loki wanted to do the same thing and he is also below toaa and the phoenix y’all are starting to make things up from your mainds and Believe it
15:05 masterful use of your power sir!
CLIFFHANGERS!!
That was some bulls**t Rob. Damn good cliff. 😤
YESSSS I FIGURED IT OUT BEFORE ROB SAID WHO IT WAS IN THE END
i dont read the comics itself, so i only listen to what Rob narrates, so this is a W for me lol
Another wicked series dude!!!!
This story is above and beyond.
Great video Rob. One thing, can you stick to instrumentals for the music. The signing was a bit distracting.
Dammit Rob!!! These cliffhangers bro, cmon 😮😮😮😅😅😅
THAT DAMN CLIFF HANGER AHHHHHH CMON MAN!!!!
“ To go even further beyond! AhHHhHahAhHa”
-Goku
Its been a min since I been on your channel I hope ur doing OK admits the chaos!! 😁
Alright, Rob....that was a cliff hanger that made me actually yell at my computer... "C'mon, man?!"
Phoenix Taaia looking like an alternate skin for Songbird.
The MCU needs to step it up because stories like this are mindbending and I love it. I was hoping Thor4 would be something like this but no.
Beyond Omega Level: Rob's cliffhangers
So are the non broken beyonders that we see here the same as the ones that showed up in Hickmans Avengers/New Avengers and wrecked ereryone, just in a different form to allow the Defenders to comprehend their existence (similar to Galactus, et al)?
Man let me tell you something
@@jacobharris954 😂
DANG IT ROB!!! AHHH next week is soooooo farrrrr away :in a ghastly voice w gangars face:
Keep being awesome Rob 👌
This is amazing!!
Now loki will narrate that one above all can't win and die in process lmao🤣🤣🤣
You are the king of cliffhangers. LoL
This story is armazing, go and buy the comic if you can, is pretty solid. One of the best out of Marvel right now
Whenever his tone is this hype in the very opening of the video, ohhhhh lemme tell you son! Let me tell you son! Already know it’s about to be legit!
13:19 Chavez and Beyond going at it the same way Beyonder and Owen Reece did in Secret Wars II
I love blue marvel because he’s a rare character. It took time for them to come up with someone who literally the Kryptonite to all living matter. He anti matter lol anything in existence that is made a matter will fall to him all depending on how much anti matter he has to produce and as we know he has a universe full of power to draw from . We’re not his weakness so we can’t beat him . He’s our weakness so anything made of matter no matter it’s rank will fall if it’s made of matter .
Anti Monitor joined the group chat
So....my boi the only super hero to destroy a beyonder?? Glad to see some power feats!
God i love this comic.
12:03 yeah, is kinda crazy 😅 súper meta, really like this type of stuff
Holy hell I did not expect them to be able to get to the White Hot Room!!
Nah that cliff hanger was disrespectful 😂
This team is OP 😂 might as well add Franklin to the team
Story of the year...I should've waited for number 3 tho 😂 thx as always
Luv this story Rob keep on keeping on
Blue marvel needs a show
It has to have man of steel level production
With is missing here is Blue marvel is amped by Toaa . It was hinted by Al Ewing when questioned on Twitter about this showing vs a Beyonder
Rob needs to be a director. Cliffhanger master over here.
Yes, was a cool concept in my opinion! And maybe it will turn into a great run. However. The beyond or’s should have had no problem with the defenders. Loki as the “god of stories” is what happens when you write yourself into a corner…
Exactly how does Loki power affect higher realm beings
@@kemj9 Beyonder was forced into their narrative by Loki
Really loving this story
Don't forget to add this to the Blue Marvel playlist.
Someone needs to draw a map of the Marvel multiverse like in DC
That'll be sick
Rob can you please explain the Marvel Cosmology?
This is awesome, but at the same time, I don't want to see the Beyonders become Marvel fodder like the celestials, galactus, and the living tribunal all have.
WAIT!!! Tha's MORE!! ;-)
I think they are still pretty high up on the totem pole of Marvel Heirarchy. The only ones confirmed higher than them as far as I can tell are the Phoenix and TOAA. From my perspective, being just under the most highest beings in the lore is not something to be ashamed of, so I think they are in a good place.
OMG THIS STORY IS CRAZY
I’ve been waiting for this
We up in this early at work my dudes
Is this from the brand new defenders run? Dang I shouldn't had slept on it this is awesome
And people say Blue Marvel wouldn’t wash Supes 🤣😭
Making a good guy that powerful makes others that are made weaker kind of worthless
The beyonder has been retconned a while back, now its the beyonders' turn
i was waiting on this. i dont want to dive in to anything else untill this story is finished. lol
Fantastic story!!!
Good cliffhanger
Wait.. when did Rob start uploading in 4K?
Dammit, I hate you, Rob….. lol
THEM: Are you *THAT* Beyonder?!
HIM: Yes, I am that Beyonder. The one that had a coked-out disco inferno with Deadpool in the '80s. Kneel before me.
he really is not. THAT Beyonder would have trashed everyone around just for the fun of it. Besides, OG Beyonder, predates the first firmament, or whatever it's called. But, when you're out of ideas, sure, the Beyonders were created by the celestials, even if the celestials NEVER had multiversal powers. next we are going to see how BM will punch TOAA in the face. like most retcons, this one also doesn't make any sense...
It has Begun. Now please Marvel. Let the WPOTC journey Continue.😭😭
NOOOOOOOOO DANG CLIFFHANGER!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣
So you’re done covering dceased? Two more comics have dropped since you last spoke on it and I’m very tempted to just make the vid myself
Beyond Omega Level: Rob’s Hype
No the question you have to ask is. How come the eternity mask wasn't used to fight the beyonders and prevent the destruction of the universe? Also...
How can the celestials create beings more powerful than themselves? It's like the TOAA (GOD) creating someone more powerful than himself.
All of these are rhetorical questions. This shouldn't be possible. Al removed the mystique of the beyonders and nerfed them at the same time.
What about when the Sentry destroyed molecule man? Seems contradictory.
Ok, this is silly... It's fun but it kinda shows how crazy it is when you can't reign in your writers.
Love this comic please explain 3 4 5 too
Blue Marvel is the male version of a Mary Sue. He always just either has the power or the intelligence when the story calls for him to defeat what others couldn't.
Yo yo yo yo from Compton ,CA
really cool
lol expertly done video.
his channel should be called cliffhangers explained at this point 😂
These comic books really are just Dead On Arrival, you can even tell by Robs voice
He's really trying to be excited but even he can't masked that
Back to the Manga
Taaia aka THICC PHOENIX!
My first thought is "Yeah, the Phoenix IS more powerful than a Beyonder"... because even the Beyonders are a form of life, and the Phoenix - as an Abstract - is the very embodiment of LIfe itself. I'm sure I'll have to think that through a good bit more, but that's what first comes to mind. 🤔
The Phoenix isn’t an abstract in the same sense as most. It’s a sentient force. Essentially it’s more or less living energy, rather than the embodiment of a concept.
In b4 the beyonder threw a slushie/blender right at Phoenix head, straight up bonk it's funny how Pre-retcon beyonder mind his own business
@@accessdenied5998 lmao ikr 💀😭 that killed me 😂 yet he still said "sorry...."
@@accessdenied5998I wonder how you'd write God in your stories? Of course if you want the inclusivity of The One Above All via Phoenix, you'll have to play dumb with everyone else. Plus the blender could mean "fvck god"!
'MAN .. SON SON SON' ..
Back to the ONLY hero worth talking about finally Rob, damn.
Where does the living tribunal fit into that beginning? Was he before the celestials?
Not gonna lie I notice Al Ewing does have some wonky stories but They just hit somehow 😂