*sora, literally sitting next to kairi who's supposedly his love interest and who clearly has two paopou fruits in her hand for them to finally share after what may have been years of being pulled apart:* wait what about riku-
I mean, I'm a SoKai shipper and would never ship Sora and Riku in a million years, I just don't feel it, but even I caught that and was like "Umm, Sora?" lol
I think sora said that cause he probably thought Kairi may have feelings for riku. I think he was just checking to make sure lol, cause in kingdom hearts 1 riku told sora he was gonna ask Kairi to share the fruit with him instead just to piss sora off lol.
@@keiracarmichael9430 there's literally no signs of kairi liking riku as more than a friend. plus??? kairi and sora were the ones literally sitting on top of a paopou fruit tree??? sora would have no reason to worry about riku lmao
It’s the first cutscene where Mickey and Riku are in the RoD. In the Japanese dub, Riku calls Sora his most precious person using the words “taisetsu na hito” which means precious person.(He doesn’t exactly say Sora’s name but we all know who he’s talking about), but the localization team changed it to “Strength to protect what matters”
Sora is bisexual but has never encountered or been made aware of same sex relationships, so he sees Kairi as his only legitimate romantic interest despite liking Riku more.
That would honestly make sense. Also, all those scenes where Donald and Goofy tease romance between him and Kairi in certain worlds in kh2 make me think that Sora sees Kairi as the only option too because it's being pushed in his face
as much as i love how riku is apologetically gay, the english localization missed a HUGE part of his development. in the japanese dialogue for BBS, riku wants to find the "strength to protect the things that matter" during the keyblade ceremony w/ terra in DDD, the importance develops, yet the subject still remains vague in KH3, it *finally* changes to the "strength to protect the person important to me" (大切な人) and we all know who fits in that position.
@@PolarPhantom i think this might be the case, since there's ways in japanese to be vague and the localization team often don't have the option to be vague due to language differences. One example that springs to mind is when Donald and Goofy mention that Pete was banished, in the English version they say it was "his Majesty", but in the Japanese version they use a neutral term instead. Come Birth by Sleep and it turns out it was Queen Minnie who did it. I'm surprised it wasn't fixed in re-releases.
All these gay moments but the part where Riku pretty much summons Sora from the sky, with the whole slow motion and the water droplets and Riku in awe, isn't here. Not even the special "friendship" attack they have where they form one whole RAINBOW THEMED KEYBLADE of all things.
@@howldorian *Fuck that. Sora and Riku is just yaoi fangirl fantasy. And also boring. This entire series teased so much SoKai only to do fuckall with it and have Sora fucking separated AGAIN. Nomura fucking sucks at romance.*
Cinnamon Panda it’s true Sora and Riku has more relation development than Kairi has but since they are best friends and all the series revolves around friendship, i've always saw Soriku as true Bromance
i know this is soriku focused but that scene with lea holding dying saix while they whisper each other's names and smile lovingly at each other.........nomura really said gay rights with that one
Yep especially since rikunami is not canon and got confirmed but Nomura and I hope rikunami will never be canon but people are still defending it and shipping it saying riku litterly simps and loves namine like NO and yes riku is so gay for sora
I don’t care that Sora and Kairi shared a paopu fruit, I’m still convinced that Riku actually loves Sora. Especially after Nomura confirmed that Naminé and Riku aren’t a thing (confirmed Repliku was the one with feelings for Naminé, Riku helped Naminé on Repliku’s behalf). It’s like he keeps Riku off limits just for Sora
Well, remember when addressing "love" there are varying kinds. For example, people should include "loves romantically" in their sentences because friends can "love" each other in a very platonic way.
Consuella Rodriguez I leave it vague because I’m still not sure which type of love it is. I’m really leaning towards romantic at this point, but it could very well be that Nomura is trying to depict a strong platonic love. The Soriku fan in me wants romance though lol!
But in all seriousness, I’m getting vibes that Nomura doesn’t want Riku with any girl. Even in DDD, Riku rejected Shiki’s teasing about being her knight. Not because he was shy either, he didn’t blush at the thought of being a girl’s knight, he flat out told her “You have the wrong idea.” Riku truly seems to be off limits lol.
@@BayouBoeeBabe inb4 Riku is actually in love with Kairi who he gave up for Sora, but in KH4 it becomes a fight to the death between them because he loves Kairi again or something lol
So, Riku is like...the single gay who gets no love, has to look after the girl his replica loves, and now has to deal with his unrequited love being gone? Lead me into ever lasting darkness.
OK Peachie I took it as Aqua being an idiot like Sora (specifically after the events of DDD). In that sense, there’s basically no hope for her if it were true xD
Can like Riku adopt me? Low key would love for him to be my older brother (like I’m not kidding he seems like he’d be SUCH a good bully destroyer and then he’d teach me to use a key blade and use magic like sign me up omg).
A whole video about gay moments in KH3 and no signs of the mahou shounen (the spell Sora and Riku defeated Aqua with) scene? This video is fradulalent!
Fervidor you’re not wrong but the way he said it though. Like first immediate thought, you’d probably think he was attracted to him or something. Idk I’m talking out of my ass.
There's another instagram entry in Monstropolis in which Sora just realized that he is been sharing heart with Ventus and Sora said "Would Riku know???". Seems very much like Sora is afraid Riku would know he has been sharing heart with another guy lol
Definitely could've still gone the Sokairi route, but Riku was part of the Destiny Island trio, the original trio, and that they would be facing certain doom the next day (and they did technically! Time travel be damned they freaking died.) and it was kinda disappointing Riku didn't at least sit with them at some point, they've been friends since they were little, and you'd kinda expect them to share or at least show us what might be their last day together (and it was, Kairi's back, but Sora's MIA, who knows when the three of them will be back together?) ..... Huh... just realized. KH1 Kairi was missing. KH2 Riku was missing. KH3 Everyone that was missing and gone from the other games got back together and saved. Would KH4 be Sora's turn to be missing? (Sure we may be playing as him, but he's isolated from everyone he knows, and no one knows where he is, with maybe AT LEAST Riku's turn to do the search questing for the missing friend.
Sekki so you want kairi to get fucked by two dudes yeah that what I'm getting from you brah and all I have to say is take 500 steps back think about what you said and realize how weird that would be
Oh god at 2:00 really hurts. It's like he's saying, "Mickey he chose Kairi, so don't worry about me. I just want him to be happy" and Mickey's over there like, "but... But you love him too!" 😭😭😭
I feel that too. To me it was Riku going, "I know he loves her and we have to accept it. If Sora died I would do the same for him, so I can't stop him from going to do it for Kairi. I love him, but I can't force him to divert his attention from Kairi. At the end of the day it's his choice." Then Mickey going, "But you love him. Shouldn't you at least go along to keep him safe?" And Riku going, "I trust him, and y'all should too." I appreciate how mature Riku is in that moment involving all that, but I honestly can't take the whole "Kairi is my light and my whole driving force. It's always been her, the only one I truly care for" thing(I'm exaggerating it but you get the point). Riku's mature reaction is completely in character, but Sora's drive to get to Kairi for those reasons seems just so forced to me because they're not true. Sora cares a lot about Riku too and a lot of the games try to ignore it at the very end by throwing in over the top forced Sokai stuff to make it seem like he only really cares about Kairi
@Sora's Sky That's pretty true. I personally believe that both Riku and Kairi are in love with Sora. It's just hard to tell for Sora because you get a lot of good developed Soriku scenes, a lot of forced Sokai scenes (though there are a few natural ones) and it really just all conflicts. You think Sora's chosen one, then here comes more scenes for the other ship
Riku's development, goals and personality are what they are because of Sora. He loves him so much, his personal journey consists in become stronger to protect Sora, and that's really beautiful.
Honestly if either Riku or Sora were female, this would've been made canon over SoKai. Just seeing this gives me flashbacks to Bucky and Steve in Civil War and the Winter Soldier.
Agree and soriku is better then rikunami which everyone claims it canon and they love each other but they actually don't god please Nomura don't make rikunami canon
Ikr I hate it when straight relationships are forced in games or on the big screen yet it's completely obvious that there are same sex main characters exhibiting a strong romantic connection, something that goes beyond 'bromance' or platonic.
Someone should make a giant list of “These characters would have been put in a relationship with each other by the writers if one of them had been the opposite gender”
They did her dirty TBH. I wanna live in the alternate timeline where the 3rd member of the “main character” friend group actually got any screen time. Or character development. Or things to do relevant to the plot.
Me: Yeah Sora I agree with Riku. Do you even remember the end of Kingdom Hearts two and the journey you had in Dream Drop Distance? It's pretty obvious
The sad thing is that the actual love interest has less chemistry than the best friend. Kairi hasn't had significant character development and/or organic chemistry with Sora since Kingdom Hearts 1 and just a little bit of Kingdom Hearts 2. Most of KH2, KH handhelds, and KH3 have Kairi pushed aside, falsely hyped up (looking at you DDD ending), a damsel, a "tell don't show" especially in concerns to her "protecting Sora" and being a Keyblade wielder/Guardian of Light, and an artificial plot device on a checklist. Honestly there is an easy fix to this, but Square and Nomura just seem to forget she's part of the series and just execute any character arc of hers pretty badly. Xion and Namine are more likeable and have more character and involvement than their original persona of Kairi which is a bit sad if you tell me. Especially since Namine and Xion can be considered "shells" considering one is a nobody and the other is a memory being "puppet".
Xion is also a botched Sora clone that became more Kairi than Kairi. They could've tweaked or made the scenes just different enough for her to not get so shit on. (Example: Kairi at least trying to defend herself from Terranort, which Lea did and got bodied for, so makes sense why Sora would rush in but seriously, a hug and not straight up blocking like he did Aqua? Come on Sora! Saïx I get at least, Xion's no slouch either, but Saïx is a beast she's not prepared for, so that's fair, but Kairi just kinda let herself get kidnapped by Xemnas without much of a fight, at least have her struggle, or re-summon her Keyblade for a swing only to have it blocked, or held back like he did to Lea's before taking her, she just got taken! Those little changes would've painted Kairi out better, but just outclassed by these beasts of people (Saïx, Xemnas, taken out by Xehanort.) but she would've still lived up to the hype. Instead we got a damsel that was of little help, hell they could've made Kairi contribute to Xion's turn, (she was right there!) which in turn would've helped bring Roxas back. I'm an advocator for Kairi, and still am, this was just lazy writing towards her character, and honestly hurt the experience, this could've been Kairi at her very best as a character, and fighter after ALL the games of being on the sidelines, and then all we got was this. I hope we get to play as Kairi one day, where she'll actually be useful in the hands of a player, but as of now, we are left blue balled, fortunately everything else was at the very least decent, so good points there, but I feel Nomura underestimated how much people had a focus on her for this game, and were left disappointed as a result.
@@juanluis21monsanto98 Yeah, just browsing the comments here, but I totally agree with everything you said here, friend. I still think KH3 was a great game with a lot of funny moments, cool music, emotional moments, and fun character interactions between the Disney characters and Sora's crew, but small changes to scenes like what you described would have smoothed out the bumps in the road. While nothing in the game was absolutely TERRIBLE (it's pretty annoying to see some comments or reviews on here that say that this game was the biggest disappointment of the year), some fixes to scenes like the Aqua VS Vanitas cutscene, the Terranort and Demon Tide cutscene, and the Keyblade Graveyard scenes with Kairi would have left a better taste in everyone's mouths. It's weird how Kairi is only in one boss fight for 30 seconds if you just bum-rush it, since she actually has combos and access to Cure and Fire (from what I have seen). It's like the potential was clearly THERE to have her do things, but they go nowhere with her? It's just really, really... odd? I remember reading some comment on Reddit somewhere on how after Kairi was kidnapped, they could have cut back to her and Xemnas after Saix's defeat, where he is shown bringing her to Master Xehanort. A hopeless boss fight could have ensued with Kairi going up against Xemnas himself, or in my opinion, Xehanort himself (with his BBS moveset reworked). Either way, Kairi could be controlled like Riku or Aqua with a pre-made moveset and while she is able to deplete Xehanort's HP, he just brushes it off like nothing because of the sheer difference in their abilities. And like the Leon battle aftermath in KH1, Kairi succumbs to exhaustion or a sneak attack from Young Xehanort to set-up the pre-final boss cutscene. Hell, MAYBE MX could have captured Sora with his 12 Keyblades and tried to kill HIM, only for Kairi to break him free and take the blow? It's something, I'm just spit-balling here. I hope that KH4 or whatever spin-off that comes next does more with her (unless any future DLC does).
@@superstarultra Kairi taking the blow for Sora would had been the most well done, heart breaking experience, Xehanort ready to forge the X-blade by striking Sora down, probably the most dangerous of the 7 guardians, only for Kairi to keep her word in protecting Sora and gets struck down in defending him, not only shattering her form, but our hearts, and so everything plays out normally onward right until the ending, with "Kairi being useless" trope gone for those changes, and Sora going to get her back, leading us to KH4 with the story relatively unchanged, but improved upon.
Yeah Ive noticed through the whole series, Sora gives 1000% more concern about Riku and his well being than he does about Kairi. Only through KH1 did he care about her. From CoM on his mind has been on one constant track: Riku. If i marathoned the games and took a shot for each time he obsessed over Riku in some way, Id die of alcohol poisoning.
In KH3 Sora said he still has to learn a lot about love... and considering how much he thinks about Riku here... the combined keyblade moment... he watched Riku protecting him from the tide not once, but twice (he doesn't remember that but hearts do)...the secret ending... I'm not sure if it's over for those two 😏 tbh i'd love Sorikai but poor Kairi they did her dirty 😫
Nothing can stop me (I’m all the way up lol sorry) from shipping them because in my eyes SoKai died at the end of KH1. Let Sora and Riku be together since they are PERFECT (not just because they’re two men or anything. It’s just that I feel like Kairi isn’t worth enough to have Sora since she is just always being kidnapped and saved over and over again)
@@dfquartzidn6151 a canon example is Albert and his best friend (Franz? can't remember) from Gankutsuou. But I feel like OP is talking more about subtext examples. Yuu and Mika from Owari no Seraph seem to fit (haven't watched the whole thing).
Dew F fucking Voltron Legendary Defender. It kinda ended like KH3. Just replace the characters: Kairi with Allura, Sora with Lance and Riku with Keith. But Allura dies instead of Lance to save everyone. And Keith’s just... totally brushed off to the side. We still very sad about it ;-; Btw you can find the show on Netflix. But watch it only if you’re prepared for a huge train wreck of a ride with a messy plot and bad ending-oh wait, that’s KH.
I can see it now, Kingdom Hearts 4: Riku: Sora, I am in love with you. Sora: Riku, I like you too. Kairi: IM SORRY, WHAT? WHAT AM I, A BROKEN KEYBLADE?
I AM SO MAD ABOUT THAT. The localisation team really killed Kairi's development. They changed dialogue so it would look like she is tough, but she is actually not that much. In Japanese Sora acknowledges that Kairi has grown, and that helps her development a lot. THEY JUST- CHANGED THAT LINE TO SOMETHING CHEESY??? The localisation team has done MANY localisation crimes. This is not all, trust me.
Also...I'm a big SoRiku shipper. But that's not a valid reason for some of y'all to hate on Kairi. She'd support them and be happy for them even if she does have feelings for Sora. Because she's wholesome like that.
I’ve just realized. I think, Yen Sid, Mickey, Kairi, Axel, Xehanort probably; would’ve known about Sora and Riku’s chemistry based on their observations.
Dew F I actually remember a scene in the KH2 novel where Axel stared hard at Riku, then asked "What _is_ Sora to you?" I remember the following line said something like "The question caught Riku off guard, he groped for words." I swear, even Axel knows they have chemistry 😂
@@ary3490 Believe me, the Novels add A WHOLE LOT MORE GAY THOUGHTS. Sora saying to Riku, that he doesn't mind becoming part of the darkness as long as he's with Riku (KH2 novel).
Like honestly I wouldn't mind it so much if Kairi and Sora had INTERACTED MORE. But first she'd also have to have a proper personality and Nomura also fails to deliver that. Like I'm ok with her being less playful than in 1, not being a fighter, and being kind, and whatver, just GIVE HER SOMETHING! Even if it was just in KH3, but nope, she's got nothing. Like you can argue about wether Aqua, Xion, Naminé and Larxene are "good" characters but you at least know their personalities and goals so Nomura is in fact capable of writing female characters, so what the fuck is going on with Kairi?
@julie martinez What connection do Sora and Kairi ever have? They draw each other sharing paopu, but that's it. Meanwhile, Sora goes off on a quest to find his friends which quickly devolves to just Riku, and Riku tries to win Sora back as well. Riku risks his life countless times for Sora, while Kairi does jack shit and vice versa. Now, I'm not saying Sora has to be with Riku. I can completely accept them being platonic and straight. But if you break it down by game, there is absolutely no way you can tell me that Sora has better chemistry with Kairi than with Riku
julie martinez it’s just a game lol. Plus they barely interacted in kh1. Sora was more focused on Riku than he was with Kairi. Its almost embarrassingly funny. Overall, Kairi’s worth as a character is embarrassingly funny.
I mean....Sora and Riku actually ending up together WOULD be the biggest twist 🤔 and we all know how Nomura loves his twists.... so maybe it’s a possibility! Anything is possible lol
Some other gay moments I've found, is the part where they use that combined keyblade to obliterate the Demon Tower. It even has a Papou Fruit as its keychain. Also when Sora says, I never looked this good, you can later find a Tweet from Sora that says the guy looks like Riku.
Thank you everyone for your Japanese dialogue versions! Another thing SENA missed is when Sora breaks down after everyone dies via Demon Tower (except Riku). Instead of saying "You don't believe that. I know you don't." Riku says "I believe in you. You won't give up." which not only carries more emotional weight (1st time he says this TO Sora when he's feeling unsure) but also apparently has a callback to KH1 that the SENA translation misses.
I was waiting for someone to make this video xD I don't care what the creators are trying to push, Riku and Sora have more chemistry than any other characters in the game, and romantic or not, they definitely love each other.
So here's the thing. I started watching this beautiful video and the moment Mickey said '... that other feelings disappear.' and the scene changed to Riku, it started loading. Just wanted to share.
Tbh even though I have zero hope that romance will be a huge thing in KH after what Nomura and voice actors have said, I could 100% see Riku canonically having feelings for Sora. I like Sora and Kairi too, and I think that scene of them in Halloween Town from 2 was very... it seemed like Sora had a crush? I dunno, I think it’s that Nomura doesn’t care that much to slap romance in the series as of now Anyways, I love the idea of Sora and Riku, the thought of Riku having feelings for his best friend is super relatable, but I know if that was canon and Sora x Kairi was canon, we’d all get into a big fight about if it’s positive for another tragic love story where the gay friend doesn’t get the relationship I dunno, I’m literally talking out of my ass here, but I’d be fine with that scenario as Riku supports Sora 100%. Yes, they are like brothers, but... I just question if people really can’t fathom what having friends is like when you’re gay, it’s the same shit... brotherly love, BUT ALSO, maybe you want to date your friend. They literally just can’t relate and it’s frustrating seeing them think it’s only yaoi fangirls who like the idea of these 2 YES, it’s canon that Sora and Riku have brotherly love. But that doesn’t mean that’s where it ends with 100% certainty. NO, they aren’t homophobic for not preferring this ship. Anyways I think people get way too heated on both sides, there’s no need to say “EW delusional SoRiku yaoi Fujos should just die already,” and there’s no need for others to say “EW Kairi sucks, she’s a shit character and SoRiku is superior!” ...even though points were made about Kairis arc in 3, not a lot going on. I will say she was my favorite character for a long time, but they don’t do anything interesting with her so... regardless, people think SoRiku shippers are bashing her and we don’t need that! They already think we’re lunatics
Well people think Soku shippers bash Kairi because for the most part that's true. A lot of people ship Soku over SoKai because one relationship is good and the other got practically nothing since KH2 (Sora gives a hug to Kairi when he finds her, then proceeds to cry when he finds Riku. Subtle). And in KH3, her emotionlessness from KH2 shined ever brighter and she actually became a detriment to Sora and the story as a whole. Sora did not deserve this, when their relation ship developed in KH3 it didn't have any real impact because Kairi sounds like she doesn't even care, and the point to which Kairi was useless caused anyone who even slightly cares about Kairi shake their head. Also, as a side note, I don't want Riku to be canon gay for Sora, because Sora is confirmed to like Kairi and that would probably just lead to Riku getting shot down (in the nicest way possible, knowing Sora), and I don't want that to happen to Riku.
Gorade i wouldn’t mind Riku having canon feelings for Sora, but yeah we all know that ends with him shot down. So it’s not like I’m pushing too hard in either direction Such a shame about Kairi... I really like her so I hope she gets more interesting next time. I like Sora and Kairi together, but can they make them the least bit interesting, please Also I haven’t seen any Kairi bashing myself other than people saying they hate her in the context of her character arc, not a shipping thing? I’m sure it’s happening though and I’m not surprised, so I hope both sides can stop being aggressive, if that’s still going on
Joey Perez Sora and Kairi have no real or developed connection besides the writers saying “LOOK! They CARE about each other!” Hell, Kairi didn’t even get ANY character development PERIOD. How tf are you gonna make us care about a character with negative personality and on top of that isn’t present for most of the games? And when she is, her only purpose is to serve as either a damsel in distress because they couldn’t come up with a better motivation for Sora or she’s a deus ex machine to save Sora. The only modicum of a relationship we got with Sora and Kairi was in KH1 when they meet in the cave in Traverse Town. Meanwhile Riku and Sora’s relationship had development, as well as Riku’s character having development. You were there for it from start to finish, through all of the ups and downs. And to top it all off, Riku even dedicated over a year of his life finding, helping and eventually saving Sora. (SPOILERS) And when Sora died, Riku even went looking for him to save him. And what did Kairi do... ? I don’t care about ships but just going by the writing for this series, Riku and Sora are actually a believable couple.
a gay has no name that Traverse Town scene was so cute! See, if they added more scenes like that, I think that not only would the characters be more developed, but the game would be better as a whole! And I agree, Riku and Sora have the stronger writing at this point. Riku is my favorite character now tbh, he’s so good. The writing of Kairi getting whacked as motivation for Sora left me empty, like I couldn’t care less... I LAUGHED I can’t believe that, I live for good Kairi moments, but 3 was just not a good game for her. The writing was sub par there in my opinion, there could have been different outcomes or ways to have Sora get motivated Wait a minute, Sora was already motivated, so... why did they take her out like that... Her death might have been necessary for some plot reason (I literally can’t remember), but if you think about it, there was no GOOD reason to do that. I dunno. I hope that shipping fans aren’t getting too heated at each other, I didn’t know it got so nasty, but apparently it does. I’ve really yet to see any SoRiku fans shit on Kairi, so I’m curious if people who like SoKai are perceiving all the complaints about Kairi to be hate? But I don’t think people would be that dumb. So really I don’t have a clue what’s going on, all I want is for both sides to shut the fuck up and be respectful to each other, like do they really have to say “ew fucking gross ship” every time they see someone say SoRiku would be cute... or “BUT ITS BROTHERLY LOVE” Like yes, that’s canon, brotherly love, they are that close. But that doesn’t mean that stops there. Also romance really doesn’t seem to be Nomura’s main focus with the way he talks about the paopu fruit scene. Paopus definitely seem romantic, but what doesn’t seem to point in that direction is Nomura’s words about the fruit exchange itself being platonic. I definitely read romance into it on Sora and Kairis part, on some level, but apparently it’s really not that much from the way he talks about it
I always saw them as bros, care and love each other as family. It’s very hard for me to see them together in a romantic way. I did like Kairi and Sora as a couple but now, they honestly have no development. I wish the three of them can share a paopu fruit together, the intent doesn’t have to be romantic, just a strong friendship that is like a family. They’ll always have each other’s back no matter what and will always be connected.
In the original Japanese dub when Riku said “the strength to protect what matters” A more accurate translation would be The strength to protect A single cherished person, the same wording is used when Hercules refers to his strength project Mag and that was translated as love, so you could interpret the original Japanese dub to be the single person Riku loves. Just figured everyone would enjoy that bit of information
2:00 THIS moment right here. right when riku faces the camera, his face was just. acceptance and understanding, in a resigned, relinquishing sort of way. his face is so soft it squeezes my heart. and when he told mickey to let sora go, it sounds like he's affirming to himself that yes, I have to let him go.
I think Riku wasn't worried about Sora leaving to find Kairi ("Let him go, Mickey.") because he knew whereever Sora ended up, he would be soon to follow. In the secret ending, when Sora wakes up in what looks to be Shibuya, we can see that Riku is with him too (just in a different area). Riku's ability to travel beside Sora could have something to do with the fact that Riku was Sora's dreameater. Or it's just their connection. Just by looking at him, Riku could tell Sora had made up his mind, or maybe he could have felt it considering their hearts are "connected." In conclusion, I can literally no longer see Sora and Kairi becoming anything more than friends, especially after the ending of KH3. Square Enix had their chance, and they didn't take it. And honestly, maybe we all read it wrong from the beginning. Maybe Sora and Kairi were never written as romantic partners. Sora and Riku, on the other hand....
Wouldnt it be great if that were the case, but judging by the ReMind trailer, thats probably not gonna be the case Theres still hope tho, but I wouldnt set my expectations too high, Sokai fans shouldnt either after what KH3 did to their precious ship/princess lol
I honestly don't know how I feel about the Sora/Riku/Kairi triangle. They're trying to get Sora and Kairi together, but they have almost no time together. What little time they DO share is very romantic, but it feels empty because they have so little other interaction to build off of. Yes, Sora's entire journey kn KH1 was basically entirely about finding Kairi, but they still sparsely interact. Meanwhile, Sora and Riku have so much more chemistry purely because of their constant interaction. Even if their interaction had no potential romantic subtext, Sora and Riku would fit better purely because of how much they do together, something Sora is sorely lacking with Kairi. Sora and Riku have all sorts of meaningful interactions. Not just friendly/romantic ones either; The bonds of battle, both allied and against, for one. They goof off, and they collaborate. They interact! If I had to hypothesize, perhaps they have a sort of "true companions" thing going, where they have a mutual and unbreakable bond of trust. However, I also am leaning ever closer to the idea of Riku having unrequited love for Sora, who maybe has feelings for Kairi because of childhood reasons.
Even in kh1 where Sora and Kairi have the most development....it was still mostly about Sora and Riku. Soras goal trough kh1 wasn't just to save Kairi, but to find Riku and bring him home. Even in Re:Coded, which is a game that re-tells the events of kh1, which is also the game Kairi had at least some importance, Kairi doesn't appear at all until the end in a small flashback scene where she isn't even talking! Kairi just doesn't have half of the importance that Soras and Rikus bond has to the story.
Have you guys seen the thread on Twitter that mentions that the Japanese script was censored because Riku said "To protect those you love" (referring to Sora) instead of "To protect what matters" ?
i could see repliku and namine but only because his memories were edited and like protecting here was his whole life purpose but not regular riku that’s why i hated it when everyone aced like he was “paired off” with namine when she was just finally being able to have a moment as a human and finally have a body at the end of kh3 like anything gets shipped when 2 people stand within 5 feet of each other
@@FungeG yeah replinami was better tbh I think namine works better with repliku or vanitas (aka me thinking I'm the only one who ships then more than anything else and thinks it's cute and better than rikunami lol) also people hating rikunami and defending rokunami and hating namine and riku or STILL defending rikunami and saying they are ment for each other disgusts me so bad like damn never knew shippers are THAT crazy I don't hate riku and namine (aka best girl I love her so much) it's just I think rikunami is a forced ship sorry and yeah I miss repliku and vanitas SO MUCH (and soriku stills wins)
lina guerri i nisss repliku and vanitas too i love them so much vanitas was my favorite antagonist and i feel like repliku kinda carried Sora’s part of COM he made all the scenes so interesting
God they have so much more chemistry than Kairi and Sora. But Kairi barely has screentime ans character developement, so it's nothing I'm surprised about
i do think it seems really heavily implied that Riku has feelings for Sora, but... to be honest, are any of us really expecting anything in canon? this is a Disney game. since when has Disney been LGBT representative? I think it’s pretty much an impossibility at this point to get any real confirmation or canon story of Riku actually admitting his feelings for Sora, especially with how the romance between Kairi and Sora was pushed. say what you want, but it was clearly, obviously meant to be romantic. seeing it any other way is just denial. Personally, I like the idea of all three of them being together, because it breaks my heart to see any of them left out, but I don’t think that’ll ever be canon, either.
Some examples of LGBT representation in Disney (Note: all around the LGBT representation is not the best with Disney, a lot of it is still just "there in the background" type stuff, but it is there and hopefully Disney will continue to advance in the right direction with this). -As already mentioned, there is a character that came out as gay in Andi Mack. -Gravity Falls has a gay relationship (Sheriff Blubs and Deputy Durland) in it that gets properly confirmed in the last episode, but which is made pretty obvious throughout the entire series. -They depicted same-sex relationships and kisses in Start vs. the Forces of Evil. -The shop keeper called Oaken in Frozen is gay (his husband and kids are briefly shown in the movies). -LeFou from Beauty and the Beast (not the best, but it's there). -There is a gay married couple in Zootopia (Bucky and Pronk). -The live action Disney show called "Good Luck Charlie" had a girl with two moms. -A lesbian couple is going to be depicted in the Dutch Donald Duck comics. -The main character for the live action Jungle Cruise movie that is coming out is going to be gay and have a coming out scene in the movie.
I know this comment is five years old, but, times change. What about the Owl House? That was a canon lesbian ship for the main character; despite the rumors that went around, even the creator herself has stated the show was most likely not cancelled because of the representation. Anyway, if we can have that on a Disney Channel show, I don’t see why they wouldn’t allow it in a Japanese video game. Especially since they’d get more backlash in the U.S. for not allowing it; the only reason stuff was censored in the past was because of markets overseas.
Sora: "Riku, I'm straight..."
Riku: "Sora, you don't believe that. I know you don't."
💀💀💀
So is spaghetti till it's wet OwO
😂😂😂
Now this is what I call quality comment 🧐👌
Lmao someone needs to clip that scene and lip sync it so it sounds like Riku cuts Sora off and says that.
Mickey: Aqua's like Sora.
Riku: OH NO SHE'S STUPID
Riku: no way Aqua isn't *that* hot
@@Caroniver_Robocacci DSKADLJS,D
Moronsexual kairi and riku XD sora is a beautiful dummy.
Stupid but endearing
I never understood that scene tbh. Why us riku so surprised
*sora, literally sitting next to kairi who's supposedly his love interest and who clearly has two paopou fruits in her hand for them to finally share after what may have been years of being pulled apart:* wait what about riku-
Facts 👏
I mean, I'm a SoKai shipper and would never ship Sora and Riku in a million years, I just don't feel it, but even I caught that and was like "Umm, Sora?" lol
Milagros Ferreira ah my lovely poly ship
I think sora said that cause he probably thought Kairi may have feelings for riku. I think he was just checking to make sure lol, cause in kingdom hearts 1 riku told sora he was gonna ask Kairi to share the fruit with him instead just to piss sora off lol.
@@keiracarmichael9430 there's literally no signs of kairi liking riku as more than a friend. plus??? kairi and sora were the ones literally sitting on top of a paopou fruit tree??? sora would have no reason to worry about riku lmao
Reminder that the Japanese dub has Riku say sora is his most precious person
Another reminder that the Ultimania repeats this and says it's an important dev for riku
WHICH CUTSCENE?!
It’s the first cutscene where Mickey and Riku are in the RoD. In the Japanese dub, Riku calls Sora his most precious person using the words “taisetsu na hito” which means precious person.(He doesn’t exactly say Sora’s name but we all know who he’s talking about), but the localization team changed it to “Strength to protect what matters”
Marcelina Rose Thank you!!
As in, A FRIEND YOU DELUSIONAL IDIOTS.
Sora: *died*
Kairi: I'll protect you Sora! *protect sora from fading away*
Sora: *revived* RIKUU!!!
Kairi: ...
Kairi: Am I a joke to you?
Kairi: *literally fucking dies*
Sora: Riku!
@@RhyeSachi ua-cam.com/video/MDs3ckpoga4/v-deo.html
Yes dear. You're also a joke to your creator.
Oof
Well...maybe...Nomura isn’t the best when it comes to characterizing females?
I swear, when I heard Riku's "WHAT?!", I knew he just HAD to be gay.
Yaknow, I still don't understand why he reacted like that
I -think- its because Sora can be a train wreck sometimes, getting himself into crazy situations.
LurvBunny 88 I think the joke is supposed to be that she has a penis? But it did not translate well, especially with the voice acting
Another God damn damsel in distress I have to transfer my soul for!?
mood
I swear to Tetsuya Nomura Riku is gay, Sora is bi, and Kairi is straight
Nugget the holy trinity
👀👏 THIS
I can totally get behind this and ship all three
Omg lol I just tweeted that
CAN THIS BE REAL?!
So are we not going to talk about Sora and Riku's bigass rainbow keyblade with a paopu fruit hanging from it.........or
No? ok.
Shhhh, no one's supposed to notice. Especially not Disney.
The gayblade™
Its lowkey
honestly probably the gayest part of KH3. This is just a compilation of close friends saying each other name. lol
* gay panic *
Sora is bisexual but has never encountered or been made aware of same sex relationships, so he sees Kairi as his only legitimate romantic interest despite liking Riku more.
Ikr
Facts 👏🏻
CANON
This is canon now
That would honestly make sense. Also, all those scenes where Donald and Goofy tease romance between him and Kairi in certain worlds in kh2 make me think that Sora sees Kairi as the only option too because it's being pushed in his face
as much as i love how riku is apologetically gay, the english localization missed a HUGE part of his development.
in the japanese dialogue for BBS, riku wants to find the "strength to protect the things that matter" during the keyblade ceremony w/ terra
in DDD, the importance develops, yet the subject still remains vague
in KH3, it *finally* changes to the "strength to protect the person important to me" (大切な人)
and we all know who fits in that position.
That doesn't really make it better.
I can't blame the localisation team since they likely couldn't predict where Nomura was going with this.
*yes, Indeed.*
@@PolarPhantom i think this might be the case, since there's ways in japanese to be vague and the localization team often don't have the option to be vague due to language differences. One example that springs to mind is when Donald and Goofy mention that Pete was banished, in the English version they say it was "his Majesty", but in the Japanese version they use a neutral term instead. Come Birth by Sleep and it turns out it was Queen Minnie who did it. I'm surprised it wasn't fixed in re-releases.
@@oneish7454 Oooh! So that was the reason why
there’s no hetero explanation for this 😤
65PinkRoses Kowalski, no need for analysis
There are no straight answer in this video 😏
@@kit76149 that's pretty gay ngl
65PinkRoses Friendship
Cypher Finally someone who understands
Press triangle to Sora
Me : **_presses the 🔺 button_**
MEGA UNDERRATED
Nope.
'press yoai button'
Mario Has Logged In it’s not haha, you literally press triangle to summon Sora when ur playing Riku
u mfs are corny
All these gay moments but the part where Riku pretty much summons Sora from the sky, with the whole slow motion and the water droplets and Riku in awe, isn't here. Not even the special "friendship" attack they have where they form one whole RAINBOW THEMED KEYBLADE of all things.
Raindrop the most powerful weapon of them all, combined gayness
it's the gay blade !
*cues the gayest BG music*
p r i d e b l a d e
I said gayblade while reading this
Nomura shipped Soriku so hard he half assed the canon pairing, he should had made Soriku canon, Kairi has a date with character development since KH1
He didn't half ass anything.
He made his point very clear by removing all opposition to his point.
Literally.
ua-cam.com/video/MDs3ckpoga4/v-deo.html
Sora and Kairi are not a couple
He got rid of Kairi. Just like he wanted. People think she's comming back? Not likely
@@howldorian
*Fuck that. Sora and Riku is just yaoi fangirl fantasy. And also boring. This entire series teased so much SoKai only to do fuckall with it and have Sora fucking separated AGAIN. Nomura fucking sucks at romance.*
Cinnamon Panda it’s true Sora and Riku has more relation development than Kairi has but since they are best friends and all the series revolves around friendship, i've always saw Soriku as true Bromance
i know this is soriku focused but that scene with lea holding dying saix while they whisper each other's names and smile lovingly at each other.........nomura really said gay rights with that one
I agree...there's absolutely no heterosexual explanation for that one scene.
the entirety of KHIII is just a huge ass gay meeting where everybody is finally coming out.
SPOILERS
That was such a wholesome scene😭💕 and the fact that Isa is back with Axel and the others at Twilight Town is even better~
I SHIP THEM SO HARD THO, ISA AND LEA ARE JUST PERFECT
wish hed said soriku rights :/
i swear sora calling 'Riku!' is the cutest thing in the game
IKR!!
I need a compilation video of Sora calling Riku from kh1 to kh3😢💕
Hilumia x25 It's actually a thing. Try looking it up. Be warned, it's long lol
Shalom kitty Sorry, you’ve probably found this already. ua-cam.com/video/mtBBJV9DdNU/v-deo.html
@@hilumia8312 phayqet
They really tried to push a straight romance, but they can never get rid of the Gay. All of the characters are the Big Gay
Yep especially since rikunami is not canon and got confirmed but Nomura and I hope rikunami will never be canon but people are still defending it and shipping it saying riku litterly simps and loves namine like NO and yes riku is so gay for sora
No, they're not. Aqua/Terra, Roxas/Xion, Riku/Nami, So/Kai. :') Deal.
But if everyone's Gay...No one is.
I don’t care that Sora and Kairi shared a paopu fruit, I’m still convinced that Riku actually loves Sora.
Especially after Nomura confirmed that Naminé and Riku aren’t a thing (confirmed Repliku was the one with feelings for Naminé, Riku helped Naminé on Repliku’s behalf). It’s like he keeps Riku off limits just for Sora
Well, remember when addressing "love" there are varying kinds.
For example, people should include "loves romantically" in their sentences because friends can "love" each other in a very platonic way.
Consuella Rodriguez I leave it vague because I’m still not sure which type of love it is. I’m really leaning towards romantic at this point, but it could very well be that Nomura is trying to depict a strong platonic love.
The Soriku fan in me wants romance though lol!
But in all seriousness, I’m getting vibes that Nomura doesn’t want Riku with any girl. Even in DDD, Riku rejected Shiki’s teasing about being her knight. Not because he was shy either, he didn’t blush at the thought of being a girl’s knight, he flat out told her “You have the wrong idea.” Riku truly seems to be off limits lol.
I wish Riku liked Naminé. That would be cute. Also kind of ship him and Aqua
@@BayouBoeeBabe inb4 Riku is actually in love with Kairi who he gave up for Sora, but in KH4 it becomes a fight to the death between them because he loves Kairi again or something lol
Does is Riku has the Mega Gay?
yeth
Vergy munch, big gay
the rumor come out
A YUP
Yea
So, Riku is like...the single gay who gets no love, has to look after the girl his replica loves, and now has to deal with his unrequited love being gone?
Lead me into ever lasting darkness.
*I'll drink to that-*
The true relatable gay experience
>unrequited
You literally cannot explain 1:30 in a non-gay way. It's scientifically impossible
Lmfao.
@@sictrix reincarnation of gay Sora >:-)
What did Riku think King Mickey meant anyway? XD
OK Peachie I took it as Aqua being an idiot like Sora (specifically after the events of DDD). In that sense, there’s basically no hope for her if it were true xD
@@laith9989 also could be that she looked exactly like sora, like xion used to, right?
ive never played kingdom hearts but im adopting riku and none of you can stop me
*W H A T ! ?*
You have to fight me for him
Can like Riku adopt me? Low key would love for him to be my older brother (like I’m not kidding he seems like he’d be SUCH a good bully destroyer and then he’d teach me to use a key blade and use magic like sign me up omg).
Miles Green SAME
TwisterKirby you know it
Nothing beats the gayness that radiated in the scene of Sora arriving to save Riku.
Nothing.
Agree
Even if they aren't gay for each other sora loves riku WAAAAAAAYY more then he loves kairi. Verbatim.
fact
True
I love how Mickey freaked out when Riku reacted to what he said about Aqua. He was like, "SHIT! I FORGOT HE WAS GAY FOR SORA-"
Sora: "I'm sure she knows how much you love her..."
"It's just like when Riku disappeared-"
Oh yeah, this is gay.
A whole video about gay moments in KH3 and no signs of the mahou shounen (the spell Sora and Riku defeated Aqua with) scene? This video is fradulalent!
Doesn't that literally translate to "magical boys" sndkdkdk
Just a youtube commenter Yes.
yeah i was expecting that too
You forgot to ad the not!Instagram entry where Sora says Yozora (the guy who looks really good according to Sora) looks totally like Riku.
Sandsplayer so sora technically called riku attractive 😂
I want this ship to sail so bad its unreal
@@spookyscaryskeletons5593 Well, to be fair, acknowledging that Riku is a handsome guy isn't the same thing as being attracted to him.
Fervidor you’re not wrong but the way he said it though. Like first immediate thought, you’d probably think he was attracted to him or something. Idk I’m talking out of my ass.
There's another instagram entry in Monstropolis in which Sora just realized that he is been sharing heart with Ventus and Sora said "Would Riku know???". Seems very much like Sora is afraid Riku would know he has been sharing heart with another guy lol
0:42 *surprised gay gasp*
I can't believe this is the only comment I've seen about this part😂
bruh you missed the gayblade scene
or it was too gay for this vid? uwu
Gayblade let it rip
oh god I went back and there is 69 likes this is a sign for kh4
"gayblade"... ok, that's the canon name in my head now XD
ZOINKS
@Khiwa2019 I'm sorry it was a uwu face so strong it killed u 😔👊
As much as I like Soriku, I wish Sora, Riku, and Kairi could have shared a paopu fruit together as a trio instead... 😕
Definitely could've still gone the Sokairi route, but Riku was part of the Destiny Island trio, the original trio, and that they would be facing certain doom the next day (and they did technically! Time travel be damned they freaking died.) and it was kinda disappointing Riku didn't at least sit with them at some point, they've been friends since they were little, and you'd kinda expect them to share or at least show us what might be their last day together (and it was, Kairi's back, but Sora's MIA, who knows when the three of them will be back together?)
..... Huh... just realized. KH1 Kairi was missing. KH2 Riku was missing. KH3 Everyone that was missing and gone from the other games got back together and saved. Would KH4 be Sora's turn to be missing? (Sure we may be playing as him, but he's isolated from everyone he knows, and no one knows where he is, with maybe AT LEAST Riku's turn to do the search questing for the missing friend.
Sekki so you want kairi to get fucked by two dudes yeah that what I'm getting from you brah and all I have to say is take 500 steps back think about what you said and realize how weird that would be
@@MultiDarklegacy I never said I wanted them to have a threesome, maybe you need to take the 500 steps back instead before commenting.
MultiDarklegacy maybe get your head out of the gutter and think of it as a mutual relationship between best fucking friends.
Sekki sorry that what it sounded like can be a bit more specific about what it is you wanted
Oh god at 2:00 really hurts. It's like he's saying, "Mickey he chose Kairi, so don't worry about me. I just want him to be happy" and Mickey's over there like, "but... But you love him too!" 😭😭😭
I feel that too. To me it was Riku going, "I know he loves her and we have to accept it. If Sora died I would do the same for him, so I can't stop him from going to do it for Kairi. I love him, but I can't force him to divert his attention from Kairi. At the end of the day it's his choice." Then Mickey going, "But you love him. Shouldn't you at least go along to keep him safe?" And Riku going, "I trust him, and y'all should too."
I appreciate how mature Riku is in that moment involving all that, but I honestly can't take the whole "Kairi is my light and my whole driving force. It's always been her, the only one I truly care for" thing(I'm exaggerating it but you get the point). Riku's mature reaction is completely in character, but Sora's drive to get to Kairi for those reasons seems just so forced to me because they're not true. Sora cares a lot about Riku too and a lot of the games try to ignore it at the very end by throwing in over the top forced Sokai stuff to make it seem like he only really cares about Kairi
@Sora's Sky That's pretty true. I personally believe that both Riku and Kairi are in love with Sora. It's just hard to tell for Sora because you get a lot of good developed Soriku scenes, a lot of forced Sokai scenes (though there are a few natural ones) and it really just all conflicts. You think Sora's chosen one, then here comes more scenes for the other ship
Sadly 😭
The rumor come out, does Riku and Sora is gay?
Umm, what? You mean is Riku gay for Sora? Well, if that’s the one, then probably.
@@milesgreen7853 Haha, sorry it's a game grumps refrence "does bruno mars is gay?"
is this r/memes profile pic?
@@sealoverlord5120 I don't use reddit so it's an acident but I suppose it is
@@loafuscramwell8658 oh, well doesnt matter
1:30 Riku's reaction tho lol
I still have no idea why he reacted the way he did. Could someone explain it to me? I'm a dumbass.
Delicious Madness Bump, lol. I don’t get it either.
@@lostlange It still confuses me to this day
Well I'm glad I'm not alone, but will we ever know what he means?? Probably not lmao.
@@lostlange I think he was surprised since Sora is connected to so many people he thought Aqua is Sora too ??
I can't believe you left out Sora's super hero landing and the Gayblade.
Which proves that they gay lol
FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT DEARLY BELOVED IS THEIR HEART SONG BY THE NOTE
Enya Lim “Two forces are better than one. Right Riku?”
Riku's development, goals and personality are what they are because of Sora. He loves him so much, his personal journey consists in become stronger to protect Sora, and that's really beautiful.
Honestly if either Riku or Sora were female, this would've been made canon over SoKai. Just seeing this gives me flashbacks to Bucky and Steve in Civil War and the Winter Soldier.
sokai isn't canon either though so...
@@CampingforCool41 Don't do that. Don't give us hope. (It's probably gonna be canon at this rate...)
Agree and soriku is better then rikunami which everyone claims it canon and they love each other but they actually don't god please Nomura don't make rikunami canon
Ikr I hate it when straight relationships are forced in games or on the big screen yet it's completely obvious that there are same sex main characters exhibiting a strong romantic connection, something that goes beyond 'bromance' or platonic.
Someone should make a giant list of “These characters would have been put in a relationship with each other by the writers if one of them had been the opposite gender”
Kairi's basically been a background character for the entire series so I support
big agree u.u
They did her dirty TBH. I wanna live in the alternate timeline where the 3rd member of the “main character” friend group actually got any screen time. Or character development. Or things to do relevant to the plot.
Sora: I actually love Kairi!
Riku: Sora, you don't believe that.
Me: Yeah Sora I agree with Riku. Do you even remember the end of Kingdom Hearts two and the journey you had in Dream Drop Distance? It's pretty obvious
when sora mentions or talks about riku more than he does with kairi, im usually (not) surprised how nomura writes these two.
The sad thing is that the actual love interest has less chemistry than the best friend. Kairi hasn't had significant character development and/or organic chemistry with Sora since Kingdom Hearts 1 and just a little bit of Kingdom Hearts 2. Most of KH2, KH handhelds, and KH3 have Kairi pushed aside, falsely hyped up (looking at you DDD ending), a damsel, a "tell don't show" especially in concerns to her "protecting Sora" and being a Keyblade wielder/Guardian of Light, and an artificial plot device on a checklist. Honestly there is an easy fix to this, but Square and Nomura just seem to forget she's part of the series and just execute any character arc of hers pretty badly. Xion and Namine are more likeable and have more character and involvement than their original persona of Kairi which is a bit sad if you tell me. Especially since Namine and Xion can be considered "shells" considering one is a nobody and the other is a memory being "puppet".
Xion is also a botched Sora clone that became more Kairi than Kairi. They could've tweaked or made the scenes just different enough for her to not get so shit on. (Example: Kairi at least trying to defend herself from Terranort, which Lea did and got bodied for, so makes sense why Sora would rush in but seriously, a hug and not straight up blocking like he did Aqua? Come on Sora! Saïx I get at least, Xion's no slouch either, but Saïx is a beast she's not prepared for, so that's fair, but Kairi just kinda let herself get kidnapped by Xemnas without much of a fight, at least have her struggle, or re-summon her Keyblade for a swing only to have it blocked, or held back like he did to Lea's before taking her, she just got taken! Those little changes would've painted Kairi out better, but just outclassed by these beasts of people (Saïx, Xemnas, taken out by Xehanort.) but she would've still lived up to the hype. Instead we got a damsel that was of little help, hell they could've made Kairi contribute to Xion's turn, (she was right there!) which in turn would've helped bring Roxas back. I'm an advocator for Kairi, and still am, this was just lazy writing towards her character, and honestly hurt the experience, this could've been Kairi at her very best as a character, and fighter after ALL the games of being on the sidelines, and then all we got was this. I hope we get to play as Kairi one day, where she'll actually be useful in the hands of a player, but as of now, we are left blue balled, fortunately everything else was at the very least decent, so good points there, but I feel Nomura underestimated how much people had a focus on her for this game, and were left disappointed as a result.
@@juanluis21monsanto98 Yeah, just browsing the comments here, but I totally agree with everything you said here, friend. I still think KH3 was a great game with a lot of funny moments, cool music, emotional moments, and fun character interactions between the Disney characters and Sora's crew, but small changes to scenes like what you described would have smoothed out the bumps in the road. While nothing in the game was absolutely TERRIBLE (it's pretty annoying to see some comments or reviews on here that say that this game was the biggest disappointment of the year), some fixes to scenes like the Aqua VS Vanitas cutscene, the Terranort and Demon Tide cutscene, and the Keyblade Graveyard scenes with Kairi would have left a better taste in everyone's mouths.
It's weird how Kairi is only in one boss fight for 30 seconds if you just bum-rush it, since she actually has combos and access to Cure and Fire (from what I have seen). It's like the potential was clearly THERE to have her do things, but they go nowhere with her? It's just really, really... odd? I remember reading some comment on Reddit somewhere on how after Kairi was kidnapped, they could have cut back to her and Xemnas after Saix's defeat, where he is shown bringing her to Master Xehanort. A hopeless boss fight could have ensued with Kairi going up against Xemnas himself, or in my opinion, Xehanort himself (with his BBS moveset reworked). Either way, Kairi could be controlled like Riku or Aqua with a pre-made moveset and while she is able to deplete Xehanort's HP, he just brushes it off like nothing because of the sheer difference in their abilities. And like the Leon battle aftermath in KH1, Kairi succumbs to exhaustion or a sneak attack from Young Xehanort to set-up the pre-final boss cutscene. Hell, MAYBE MX could have captured Sora with his 12 Keyblades and tried to kill HIM, only for Kairi to break him free and take the blow? It's something, I'm just spit-balling here.
I hope that KH4 or whatever spin-off that comes next does more with her (unless any future DLC does).
@@superstarultra Kairi taking the blow for Sora would had been the most well done, heart breaking experience, Xehanort ready to forge the X-blade by striking Sora down, probably the most dangerous of the 7 guardians, only for Kairi to keep her word in protecting Sora and gets struck down in defending him, not only shattering her form, but our hearts, and so everything plays out normally onward right until the ending, with "Kairi being useless" trope gone for those changes, and Sora going to get her back, leading us to KH4 with the story relatively unchanged, but improved upon.
Irony at its finest
Yeah Ive noticed through the whole series, Sora gives 1000% more concern about Riku and his well being than he does about Kairi. Only through KH1 did he care about her. From CoM on his mind has been on one constant track: Riku. If i marathoned the games and took a shot for each time he obsessed over Riku in some way, Id die of alcohol poisoning.
In KH3 Sora said he still has to learn a lot about love... and considering how much he thinks about Riku here... the combined keyblade moment... he watched Riku protecting him from the tide not once, but twice (he doesn't remember that but hearts do)...the secret ending... I'm not sure if it's over for those two 😏 tbh i'd love Sorikai but poor Kairi they did her dirty 😫
I still ship them
I mean it's more viable than Sora and the trash bag in pink
Same
T'was my first very ship since 2012
Nothing can stop me (I’m all the way up lol sorry) from shipping them because in my eyes SoKai died at the end of KH1.
Let Sora and Riku be together since they are PERFECT (not just because they’re two men or anything. It’s just that I feel like Kairi isn’t worth enough to have Sora since she is just always being kidnapped and saved over and over again)
SORAKH HIKARI my very first ship😩😩😩
There's a pattern here. The dumb and happy main character and his best friend who's gay for him, but he's friendzoned. I saw it many times in anime 😂
Do you have an example?
@@dfquartzidn6151 a canon example is Albert and his best friend (Franz? can't remember) from Gankutsuou. But I feel like OP is talking more about subtext examples. Yuu and Mika from Owari no Seraph seem to fit (haven't watched the whole thing).
Dew F fucking Voltron Legendary Defender. It kinda ended like KH3. Just replace the characters: Kairi with Allura, Sora with Lance and Riku with Keith. But Allura dies instead of Lance to save everyone. And Keith’s just... totally brushed off to the side. We still very sad about it ;-;
Btw you can find the show on Netflix. But watch it only if you’re prepared for a huge train wreck of a ride with a messy plot and bad ending-oh wait, that’s KH.
Oh no don’t drag them into the absolute depression associated with Voltron
I can see it now, Kingdom Hearts 4:
Riku: Sora, I am in love with you.
Sora: Riku, I like you too.
Kairi: IM SORRY, WHAT? WHAT AM I, A BROKEN KEYBLADE?
😂😂
Can you become a KH writer and make this happen
JUST PASSING TO SAY THAT IN THE JAPANESE DUB SORA NEVER SAID THAT "KAIRI IS HIS STRENGTH" BUT THAT "SHE BECAME STRONG" so yeah
I AM SO MAD ABOUT THAT.
The localisation team really killed Kairi's development. They changed dialogue so it would look like she is tough, but she is actually not that much. In Japanese Sora acknowledges that Kairi has grown, and that helps her development a lot. THEY JUST- CHANGED THAT LINE TO SOMETHING CHEESY???
The localisation team has done MANY localisation crimes. This is not all, trust me.
The english dub workers is sokai shippers
Also...I'm a big SoRiku shipper. But that's not a valid reason for some of y'all to hate on Kairi. She'd support them and be happy for them even if she does have feelings for Sora. Because she's wholesome like that.
I’ve just realized. I think, Yen Sid, Mickey, Kairi, Axel, Xehanort probably; would’ve known about Sora and Riku’s chemistry based on their observations.
Dew F
I actually remember a scene in the KH2
novel where Axel stared hard at Riku, then asked "What _is_ Sora to you?" I remember the following line said something like
"The question caught Riku off guard, he groped for words."
I swear, even Axel knows they have chemistry 😂
@@ary3490 Believe me, the Novels add A WHOLE LOT MORE GAY THOUGHTS. Sora saying to Riku, that he doesn't mind becoming part of the darkness as long as he's with Riku (KH2 novel).
I love kairi she is my fav kh girl among with namine but I don't ship sokai and rikunami I HATE THESE SHIPS but will NEVER hate kairi and namine
Yeah! Don’t hate the character, hate the writers for mangling her so badly after KH1
It is completely unacceptable that Sora ends up with Kairi after all this
Ikr! We get lifetimes or Soriku buildup and then we get "but Sora loves Kairi" shoved back in our faces like they got the development they didn't
Like honestly I wouldn't mind it so much if Kairi and Sora had INTERACTED MORE. But first she'd also have to have a proper personality and Nomura also fails to deliver that. Like I'm ok with her being less playful than in 1, not being a fighter, and being kind, and whatver, just GIVE HER SOMETHING! Even if it was just in KH3, but nope, she's got nothing.
Like you can argue about wether Aqua, Xion, Naminé and Larxene are "good" characters but you at least know their personalities and goals so Nomura is in fact capable of writing female characters, so what the fuck is going on with Kairi?
@julie martinez What connection do Sora and Kairi ever have? They draw each other sharing paopu, but that's it. Meanwhile, Sora goes off on a quest to find his friends which quickly devolves to just Riku, and Riku tries to win Sora back as well. Riku risks his life countless times for Sora, while Kairi does jack shit and vice versa. Now, I'm not saying Sora has to be with Riku. I can completely accept them being platonic and straight. But if you break it down by game, there is absolutely no way you can tell me that Sora has better chemistry with Kairi than with Riku
Is unacceptable that kairy exist....
julie martinez it’s just a game lol. Plus they barely interacted in kh1. Sora was more focused on Riku than he was with Kairi. Its almost embarrassingly funny. Overall, Kairi’s worth as a character is embarrassingly funny.
Riku's mega gay.
Sora's just kind of there.
Riku always seems to know when Sora is in pain without Sora even saying a thing.
Lavinna Blackhearts Their hearts are in tune 🥺
This is my otp. I'll go down with this ship.
Same!!
It’s been my otp for like 5-6 years
Same
Me to and it's still better then sokai and rikunami
Kairi got kidnapped? Oh no!
Riku is in danger?NOOOOOOOOOO
Nice to know the next game is going to be about riku saving his boyfriend!
Yes, for the second time.
I don't mind if they switch, just makes it cuter!
@@purplekillingshadow8474 Sora try to saves Riku? We got that from KH2 though. Maybe sometime after the next KH? After Riku saves Sora?
@@channe3049 I wouldn't mind that, the idea sounds sweet. Like they have to have each other's backs.
0:43 don’t touch me or my boyfriend ever again
1:45 The funniest thing about this is that one of the loading screens specifically has Sora tweeting that Yozora looks a lot like Riku
The Sora/Riku ship was more believeable than the Sora/Kairi ship...
That's a fact agreed upon. Even the developers of the game would
I'm kinda disappointed about how Riku interacts with Sora for the first half of the game. He's just like, "Oh. Hi. It's you."
he's trying to act cool.
Time amount of times sora talks about Riku vs the amount of time he talks about kairi...
Noone:
Literally not one soul:
Sora: RIKU
Mickey: Aqua... she's like Sora.
Riku: You mean she's gay?
Mickey: What?? No!
Mickey: I mean, she probably IS gay, but that's not what i meant.
I mean....Sora and Riku actually ending up together WOULD be the biggest twist 🤔 and we all know how Nomura loves his twists.... so maybe it’s a possibility! Anything is possible lol
1:30 was the best moment in the game bc of how Mickey reacted SO fast I'm crying.
Some other gay moments I've found, is the part where they use that combined keyblade to obliterate the Demon Tower.
It even has a Papou Fruit as its keychain.
Also when Sora says, I never looked this good, you can later find a Tweet from Sora that says the guy looks like Riku.
The secret ending also shows only Sora and Riku in another world soooooo
Thank you everyone for your Japanese dialogue versions! Another thing SENA missed is when Sora breaks down after everyone dies via Demon Tower (except Riku). Instead of saying "You don't believe that. I know you don't." Riku says "I believe in you. You won't give up." which not only carries more emotional weight (1st time he says this TO Sora when he's feeling unsure) but also apparently has a callback to KH1 that the SENA translation misses.
Hearing micky say “nonononono” is literally everything
I was waiting for someone to make this video xD I don't care what the creators are trying to push, Riku and Sora have more chemistry than any other characters in the game, and romantic or not, they definitely love each other.
Where was the GayBlades™️ moment 😂
Theory: Organization XIII turned Riku gay
M A N S E X's organisation
That explains everything
So here's the thing. I started watching this beautiful video and the moment Mickey said '... that other feelings disappear.' and the scene changed to Riku, it started loading. Just wanted to share.
Tbh even though I have zero hope that romance will be a huge thing in KH after what Nomura and voice actors have said, I could 100% see Riku canonically having feelings for Sora.
I like Sora and Kairi too, and I think that scene of them in Halloween Town from 2 was very... it seemed like Sora had a crush? I dunno, I think it’s that Nomura doesn’t care that much to slap romance in the series as of now
Anyways, I love the idea of Sora and Riku, the thought of Riku having feelings for his best friend is super relatable, but I know if that was canon and Sora x Kairi was canon, we’d all get into a big fight about if it’s positive for another tragic love story where the gay friend doesn’t get the relationship
I dunno, I’m literally talking out of my ass here, but I’d be fine with that scenario as Riku supports Sora 100%. Yes, they are like brothers, but...
I just question if people really can’t fathom what having friends is like when you’re gay, it’s the same shit... brotherly love, BUT ALSO, maybe you want to date your friend. They literally just can’t relate and it’s frustrating seeing them think it’s only yaoi fangirls who like the idea of these 2
YES, it’s canon that Sora and Riku have brotherly love. But that doesn’t mean that’s where it ends with 100% certainty. NO, they aren’t homophobic for not preferring this ship.
Anyways I think people get way too heated on both sides, there’s no need to say “EW delusional SoRiku yaoi Fujos should just die already,” and there’s no need for others to say “EW Kairi sucks, she’s a shit character and SoRiku is superior!”
...even though points were made about Kairis arc in 3, not a lot going on. I will say she was my favorite character for a long time, but they don’t do anything interesting with her so... regardless, people think SoRiku shippers are bashing her and we don’t need that! They already think we’re lunatics
Well people think Soku shippers bash Kairi because for the most part that's true. A lot of people ship Soku over SoKai because one relationship is good and the other got practically nothing since KH2 (Sora gives a hug to Kairi when he finds her, then proceeds to cry when he finds Riku. Subtle). And in KH3, her emotionlessness from KH2 shined ever brighter and she actually became a detriment to Sora and the story as a whole. Sora did not deserve this, when their relation ship developed in KH3 it didn't have any real impact because Kairi sounds like she doesn't even care, and the point to which Kairi was useless caused anyone who even slightly cares about Kairi shake their head.
Also, as a side note, I don't want Riku to be canon gay for Sora, because Sora is confirmed to like Kairi and that would probably just lead to Riku getting shot down (in the nicest way possible, knowing Sora), and I don't want that to happen to Riku.
I admire your honesty.
Gorade i wouldn’t mind Riku having canon feelings for Sora, but yeah we all know that ends with him shot down. So it’s not like I’m pushing too hard in either direction
Such a shame about Kairi... I really like her so I hope she gets more interesting next time. I like Sora and Kairi together, but can they make them the least bit interesting, please
Also I haven’t seen any Kairi bashing myself other than people saying they hate her in the context of her character arc, not a shipping thing? I’m sure it’s happening though and I’m not surprised, so I hope both sides can stop being aggressive, if that’s still going on
Joey Perez Sora and Kairi have no real or developed connection besides the writers saying “LOOK! They CARE about each other!” Hell, Kairi didn’t even get ANY character development PERIOD. How tf are you gonna make us care about a character with negative personality and on top of that isn’t present for most of the games? And when she is, her only purpose is to serve as either a damsel in distress because they couldn’t come up with a better motivation for Sora or she’s a deus ex machine to save Sora. The only modicum of a relationship we got with Sora and Kairi was in KH1 when they meet in the cave in Traverse Town.
Meanwhile Riku and Sora’s relationship had development, as well as Riku’s character having development. You were there for it from start to finish, through all of the ups and downs. And to top it all off, Riku even dedicated over a year of his life finding, helping and eventually saving Sora. (SPOILERS) And when Sora died, Riku even went looking for him to save him. And what did Kairi do... ?
I don’t care about ships but just going by the writing for this series, Riku and Sora are actually a believable couple.
a gay has no name that Traverse Town scene was so cute! See, if they added more scenes like that, I think that not only would the characters be more developed, but the game would be better as a whole!
And I agree, Riku and Sora have the stronger writing at this point. Riku is my favorite character now tbh, he’s so good. The writing of Kairi getting whacked as motivation for Sora left me empty, like I couldn’t care less... I LAUGHED
I can’t believe that, I live for good Kairi moments, but 3 was just not a good game for her. The writing was sub par there in my opinion, there could have been different outcomes or ways to have Sora get motivated
Wait a minute, Sora was already motivated, so... why did they take her out like that... Her death might have been necessary for some plot reason (I literally can’t remember), but if you think about it, there was no GOOD reason to do that.
I dunno. I hope that shipping fans aren’t getting too heated at each other, I didn’t know it got so nasty, but apparently it does. I’ve really yet to see any SoRiku fans shit on Kairi, so I’m curious if people who like SoKai are perceiving all the complaints about Kairi to be hate? But I don’t think people would be that dumb. So really I don’t have a clue what’s going on, all I want is for both sides to shut the fuck up and be respectful to each other, like do they really have to say “ew fucking gross ship” every time they see someone say SoRiku would be cute... or “BUT ITS BROTHERLY LOVE”
Like yes, that’s canon, brotherly love, they are that close. But that doesn’t mean that stops there. Also romance really doesn’t seem to be Nomura’s main focus with the way he talks about the paopu fruit scene. Paopus definitely seem romantic, but what doesn’t seem to point in that direction is Nomura’s words about the fruit exchange itself being platonic. I definitely read romance into it on Sora and Kairis part, on some level, but apparently it’s really not that much from the way he talks about it
I always saw them as bros, care and love each other as family. It’s very hard for me to see them together in a romantic way. I did like Kairi and Sora as a couple but now, they honestly have no development. I wish the three of them can share a paopu fruit together, the intent doesn’t have to be romantic, just a strong friendship that is like a family. They’ll always have each other’s back no matter what and will always be connected.
IDK how Nomura confused Kairi, the OBVIOUS third wheel, for the real love interest -- Riku.
I know right? Maybe it's her new haircut 💁♂️
it be like that sometimes
I'm not a big fan of this ship, but I cannot deny the gay moments.
Riku was actually Disney's first gay character this whole time.
In the original Japanese dub when Riku said “the strength to protect what matters” A more accurate translation would be The strength to protect A single cherished person, the same wording is used when Hercules refers to his strength project Mag and that was translated as love, so you could interpret the original Japanese dub to be the single person Riku loves.
Just figured everyone would enjoy that bit of information
2:00 THIS moment right here. right when riku faces the camera, his face was just. acceptance and understanding, in a resigned, relinquishing sort of way. his face is so soft it squeezes my heart. and when he told mickey to let sora go, it sounds like he's affirming to himself that yes, I have to let him go.
soriku endgame, actually
green ghoul guy soriku canon king
Where was this from? Because I’ve been seeing it everywhere on twitter but I can’t seem to find the source
Ngl but it feels like a high school edit when square used scenes straight from previous games instead of bringing it up to speed with how kh3 looks
I think Riku wasn't worried about Sora leaving to find Kairi ("Let him go, Mickey.") because he knew whereever Sora ended up, he would be soon to follow.
In the secret ending, when Sora wakes up in what looks to be Shibuya, we can see that Riku is with him too (just in a different area). Riku's ability to travel beside Sora could have something to do with the fact that Riku was Sora's dreameater.
Or it's just their connection. Just by looking at him, Riku could tell Sora had made up his mind, or maybe he could have felt it considering their hearts are "connected."
In conclusion, I can literally no longer see Sora and Kairi becoming anything more than friends, especially after the ending of KH3. Square Enix had their chance, and they didn't take it. And honestly, maybe we all read it wrong from the beginning. Maybe Sora and Kairi were never written as romantic partners. Sora and Riku, on the other hand....
Wouldnt it be great if that were the case, but judging by the ReMind trailer, thats probably not gonna be the case
Theres still hope tho, but I wouldnt set my expectations too high, Sokai fans shouldnt either after what KH3 did to their precious ship/princess lol
Even after all three games sora does the riku thing, except Riku actually starts calling to sora lol
I cried when Mickey said that
"But Aqua, she's like Sora.."
*Riku turns to Mickey*
"..WHAT?"
"NONONONONO. STRONG LIKE SORA"
I still don't understand that joke and I'm confusdd
1:15 STRAIGHT OUTTA A FANFIC HELLO-
Goofy knew Sora was whipped
Mickey: "But Aqua.. she's like Sora."
Me:...gay?
Riku must've been like 'oh I didn't think Aqua was a lesbian' LMAO
@Neri 2D *deep inhale* YASSSSS♡
0:57
"Riku?"😀
My heart.
I honestly don't know how I feel about the Sora/Riku/Kairi triangle. They're trying to get Sora and Kairi together, but they have almost no time together. What little time they DO share is very romantic, but it feels empty because they have so little other interaction to build off of. Yes, Sora's entire journey kn KH1 was basically entirely about finding Kairi, but they still sparsely interact.
Meanwhile, Sora and Riku have so much more chemistry purely because of their constant interaction. Even if their interaction had no potential romantic subtext, Sora and Riku would fit better purely because of how much they do together, something Sora is sorely lacking with Kairi. Sora and Riku have all sorts of meaningful interactions. Not just friendly/romantic ones either; The bonds of battle, both allied and against, for one. They goof off, and they collaborate. They interact!
If I had to hypothesize, perhaps they have a sort of "true companions" thing going, where they have a mutual and unbreakable bond of trust. However, I also am leaning ever closer to the idea of Riku having unrequited love for Sora, who maybe has feelings for Kairi because of childhood reasons.
Interaction time has nothing to do with romantic intrest.
Even in kh1 where Sora and Kairi have the most development....it was still mostly about Sora and Riku.
Soras goal trough kh1 wasn't just to save Kairi, but to find Riku and bring him home.
Even in Re:Coded, which is a game that re-tells the events of kh1, which is also the game Kairi had at least some importance, Kairi doesn't appear at all until the end in a small flashback scene where she isn't even talking!
Kairi just doesn't have half of the importance that Soras and Rikus bond has to the story.
Imma get a soundboard to replace darkness with straight and light with gay
Have you guys seen the thread on Twitter that mentions that the Japanese script was censored because Riku said "To protect those you love" (referring to Sora) instead of "To protect what matters" ?
Nomura giving the people what they REALLY want 🏳️🌈
I would lay down and die for this ship
These guys belong together
There’s no straight explanation for all of this
ME TO I LOVE THEM yet I don't understand why people ship rikunami it's forced and doesn't make sense look at soriku people
i could see repliku and namine but only because his memories were edited and like protecting here was his whole life purpose but not regular riku
that’s why i hated it when everyone aced like he was “paired off” with namine when she was just finally being able to have a moment as a human and finally have a body at the end of kh3 like anything gets shipped when 2 people stand within 5 feet of each other
@@FungeG yeah replinami was better tbh I think namine works better with repliku or vanitas (aka me thinking I'm the only one who ships then more than anything else and thinks it's cute and better than rikunami lol) also people hating rikunami and defending rokunami and hating namine and riku or STILL defending rikunami and saying they are ment for each other disgusts me so bad like damn never knew shippers are THAT crazy I don't hate riku and namine (aka best girl I love her so much) it's just I think rikunami is a forced ship sorry and yeah I miss repliku and vanitas SO MUCH (and soriku stills wins)
lina guerri i nisss repliku and vanitas too i love them so much vanitas was my favorite antagonist and i feel like repliku kinda carried Sora’s part of COM he made all the scenes so interesting
wow imagine having a relationship so close that u can communicate so much to each other in a single grunt.
I love them so much it hurts;;
0:44 just proves 0:00
The King supports THEM ;-; ❤️
you know it's gay when even fucking Mickey Mouse can see it
Yessssss 100000000000000% agreed
God they have so much more chemistry than Kairi and Sora. But Kairi barely has screentime ans character developement, so it's nothing I'm surprised about
Right? Lea/Axel and her got more development in 2 scenes than her and Sora ever since they were kids.
@@sleepytimejunction8780 This is so true and it makes me so sad xD
@@sleepytimejunction8780 And those were the only two scenes where I liked Kairi. Her relationship with Axel was so sweet.
Square has a habit of making the bro more of a romantic partner then the original love interest
Aqua...is like sora
Riku has flashing images from: Namine, Roxas, "I forgot" and Data Sora
i do think it seems really heavily implied that Riku has feelings for Sora, but... to be honest, are any of us really expecting anything in canon? this is a Disney game. since when has Disney been LGBT representative? I think it’s pretty much an impossibility at this point to get any real confirmation or canon story of Riku actually admitting his feelings for Sora, especially with how the romance between Kairi and Sora was pushed. say what you want, but it was clearly, obviously meant to be romantic. seeing it any other way is just denial. Personally, I like the idea of all three of them being together, because it breaks my heart to see any of them left out, but I don’t think that’ll ever be canon, either.
Disney has a lgbtq show called Andi Mack. Cater towards young teens, teens and adults. Its still possible
Some examples of LGBT representation in Disney (Note: all around the LGBT representation is not the best with Disney, a lot of it is still just "there in the background" type stuff, but it is there and hopefully Disney will continue to advance in the right direction with this).
-As already mentioned, there is a character that came out as gay in Andi Mack.
-Gravity Falls has a gay relationship (Sheriff Blubs and Deputy Durland) in it that gets properly confirmed in the last episode, but which is made pretty obvious throughout the entire series.
-They depicted same-sex relationships and kisses in Start vs. the Forces of Evil.
-The shop keeper called Oaken in Frozen is gay (his husband and kids are briefly shown in the movies).
-LeFou from Beauty and the Beast (not the best, but it's there).
-There is a gay married couple in Zootopia (Bucky and Pronk).
-The live action Disney show called "Good Luck Charlie" had a girl with two moms.
-A lesbian couple is going to be depicted in the Dutch Donald Duck comics.
-The main character for the live action Jungle Cruise movie that is coming out is going to be gay and have a coming out scene in the movie.
in an episode of doc mcstuffins theres a doll family with two moms (:
i don't put hate on straight ship(s) but bruh hetero always win even if it's forced
I know this comment is five years old, but, times change. What about the Owl House? That was a canon lesbian ship for the main character; despite the rumors that went around, even the creator herself has stated the show was most likely not cancelled because of the representation. Anyway, if we can have that on a Disney Channel show, I don’t see why they wouldn’t allow it in a Japanese video game. Especially since they’d get more backlash in the U.S. for not allowing it; the only reason stuff was censored in the past was because of markets overseas.
as it should be
This is my religion
Me too
Me three
Please don’t devolve into trueloveheart94
@@raheemaslam7363 whomst?