I WAS RIPPED OFF with this Part Exchange Grand Vitara!
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- Опубліковано 29 тра 2024
- In todays video we take a look at a part exchange that I was recently tucked up with! The car was supposed to be really good mechanically but it seems like they were hiding a misfire problem!
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0:00: 💸 Dealing with a problematic part exchange experience involving a Grand Vitara and cautionary tale.
2:47: 🚗 Unforeseen car issues discovered during mechanic inspection after a recent deal.
5:27: 🚗 Displeasure over the deal outcome and potential loss on a car trade-in.
9:04: ⚙️ Issues with a grand Vitara engine causing misfires, high revs, and petrol smell.
12:00: ⚙️ Vehicle inspection reveals previous exhaust issues and successful MOT history after repair in October.
14:53: 🚗 Challenges with a faulty vehicle during a part exchange, questioning the distance driven and condition.
18:52: 💸 Beware of deceptive tactics when considering a part exchange deal for a car.
Recap by Tammy AI - Авто та транспорт
Should get a lad working at the farm to strip the cars for parts, bits as simple as the sidestep can often make £150-300
People part exchange crap most of time on a decent car I would of allowed for that on the deal expect nothing if it's better it's a bonus but surely 5 or 6 would of been enough for that 05 plate
I think you should give up cat trading lol
Car even
@@Gtttts The point is when you get a car in part exhchange which is reasonable but may have issues. By stripping one or two parts which are reasonable in price and in demand can turn a scrap value of £2-300 into £300 + another for instance £3-600 in parts. Bits as simple as a sidestep, tailgate, seats, doors or whatever are worth good money if sold individually. Think you should do research before you completely deny the idea
What about replacing the engine with the other one with the rust issues? 🇨🇦
If this is the only car you’ve ever been tucked up we with you’ve done very well
My advice as a retired motor dealer is your first pill is your best pill
Get rid of all that scrap ASAP
stop your missus buying cars and have a strict aged policy with stock cars and trade cars normally 90 days retail
and 7 days for trade
Your new DMS system will highlight this for you
Good luck keep up the good work mate
joe you must start to cut your losses in the future , you must have an appointment type system in place for part exchange so you can carry out a vehicle score and plug the top Dom in and check it on the lift. , and I can't believe Jason offered £1500 for that old vehicle , all the staff need to get a grip and start helping to save money , I used to tell my staff if we don't all pull our weight for the company we will all end up out of work 👍
Have you seen the Only Fools and Horses episode 'The Chain Gang'? They kept emphasising they were a Doctor as well. Oldest scam in the book 😂 good to see you've got a sense of humour about it.
100% spoke perfect English as well. Hook, line and sinker unfortunately
I would imagine fifty per cent of PXs have something to hide either something has broken or they know something is about to go wrong. Of course there are certain customers you need to be more wary of.
Tell the doctor his new car now has no warranty !
1st major red flay is someone calling themselves a 'Doctor' and driving about in a 2005 Grand Vitara 😂
Oh heck...
Best thing to do now is to get rid quickly, don't let it hang around. Get some of your money back and into another car. if you leave it hanging around it will keep reminding you and make you feel down.
Very true
You need to start taking those cars especially the 4x4 to Leominster Car Auctions they love all that there
Last years Mot may be a tell tail sign. Lots of Fails inc Emissions that all disappear later leaving just the Advisories. That usually means Bent Mot was cheaper than the repairs !
So what bloody emissions. People need che cars. Have you seen the euro 7 regulating tyre and brake dust
You need to invest only 10 mins of your time to inspect each px.......you see the three 7's when a punter gets hooked on the worm......and dismiss the px.
Treat everybody as a robbing chunt until they prove you wrong.
Give it to Chops 😂😂
Especially as Barum Engines will sort.
Tbf everything is fixable , but you need a budget as you could be throwing good money after bad and make a loss !!!
I was scrolling through the comments when I heard the banging at the end, had to scroll back up. Hilarious, we have all wanted to do that.
I had px's turn up for the swapover with duff batteries fitted, tyres changed for bald ones, no tax (back in the day) radios missing, and even a gearbox with 2 gears missing that drove perfectly when I road tested it. Can't always trust the public, so use your instincts and a written appraisal.
Vitaras got a burned out exhaust valve. The smoke out of the back is unburned fuel.
Reckon it could burn a valve with the mileage?
Hahaha 19:17 made me laugh 😂
Love the videos as always ❤
I was given a part ex price over the phone once, when doing a deal, they never saw the car till after the deal was done. Luckily I am a nice guy and they didnt get ripped off. But I thought at the time that it was pretty high risk for them.
That’s should be Jason’s company car from now on😂
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One of on Jason well bet he’s done the same
I think this vitara would be a farm hack for rural types
ISCV idle speed control valve first then water temp sensor and change the plugs . It will 100% fix it
Take the engine from the $400 Grand Vitara and put it in the $1,500 one so you get one good Vitara to sell.
Just going to say it
Was thinking that too
Beat me to it too. Trouble is, the time it would take to do that is probably better invested elsewhere.
Trouble is, the rusty one has got a 1.6 and this is the 2.0 so you would have to swap so much stuff over, ECU, wiring loom, register with DVLA etc. possible, but soooo much hassle!
Wish I lived nearer you. Looking to buy a new car and it's worrying trusting local dealers (Been stung before) would definitely use you or chops. I
Iive in Surrey which is a bit to far to come and look at cars. But love your videos. Keep the comming 😊
thank you - given that someone with your expertise got caught out then I feel that there is no hope for the rest of us I really enjoy your videos and wish you every success
Hi Could you tell me what would the cost of a engine would be, I had a 2003 Grand Vitara but it was diesel and was a fantastic jeep never let me down.
sounds like a burnt exhaust valve on the vitara! great vid as always Joe thanks for the entertainment.
I px’ed a metro years ago to a VW Dealership, they checked it over and agreed to the PX, dropped it off before picking up my new golf and just died as I parked it in the spot (all the red lights came in and the engine just cut out), they never got back to me.
Just goes to show you need to test drive and do your checks :-)
We did but it was hot when we rest drove it, hiding the misfire
@@ShiftingMetal Joe, if you google Vitara misfire when cold there are quite a few posts out there, some admittedly other Suzukis, with exactly the same symptoms. Assuming no drop in compression on any of the cylinders, which would suggest a burnt valve, the issue could well be as simple as a dodgy wire or a failed temp sender…
I've sold stuff like that for export, they like, or did petrol 4x4s,we used to drop them off at the docks where a guy was shipping them.
Put a national trust sticker in the back window and it's retail again......
So sad when this sort thing happens, I thought your description of the men said it all.
Never trust anyone with a certain nationality which we are not allowed to mention and normally reside in areas like Birmingham, Leicester, Leeds and Bradford 😉
As a privately educated British Pakistani who lives on his farm in Wales, I laugh at comments like this. The reality is the dregs of society always have issues. Go to a nice restaurant and nobody gives a fly F where you're from, your ethnicity or religion. Go to a spoons or local cafe and it's all they care about because they need someone to blame.
Jason messed up. Those two individuals were dishonest. That's the end of it. Their assumed nationality or language skills shouldn't even be an issue.
I wouldn't go to the Car Dealer Magazine awards if I were you, or any car industry event, lots of people who look like me are there. Ditto any hospital or dentists, or GP's surgery. Avoid them all buddy.
Indeed - well said
I hate things like this, those people certainly don’t care if they rip off a small business trying to do their best. Grrrrr
@@LCOFexcellent reply mate. Totally agree.
Patronising @@simonhall2682
Matt from High Peak is a master of buying older cars. I sometimes get mad at just how little he pays for what, on the face of it, its an OK car. But then he goes on, occasionally, to spend far too much on prepping it for resale.
A case in point is for the cars that once were desirable (thinking of the Jaguar XKR) and now have a yearly road tax of £735 if paid all upfront. I love those, I had one, but given the road tax on what would be a Sunday driver, I’m not doing it. Hence a 4.2 car from 2016 with 100k+ miles is practically worthless. I almost bought one. I’m glad I didn’t as it is it worth very much just a few months later.
So old cars? Buy for scrap value.
Let me guess...they were a couple hours away...Birmingham 👀...I know where there is a lovely 2015 bmw 520d m sport for sale up in Doncaster 😊😊
Could you take bits of rusty vitara and put on compression vitara or swap engine maybe
Low value car is just not worth messing around with
I find it hard to feel sorry for car salesman... The amount of times "professionals" at places Arnold Clark or Evans Halshaw have ripped me off 👀
Have you put oil down cyl and plug back in to see if compression comes up may just be a burnt valve mate or a bore scope down if youve got one all the best in the old days we used to put piston seal down the cyl lol
Wish I lived nearer you. Looking for a new car and it's worrying trusting local dealers (been stung before) would definitely buy a car from you or chops. Unfortunately I live in Surrey which is a bit far to comr and look at a car but love the channel 😊
Works both ways
?explain dont understand
Best episode … ❤
That's my kind of parking, proper made me laugh. 😂
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Got done with a E36 BMW M3 many moons ago in exactly the same way. Sadly, it happens and why I view every PX with maximum suspicion.
That parking the Vitara at the end made me laugh😂.
Could the engine from the £400 one be put in this one and make it good to sell
Couldn’t it be fixed along with doing the cam belt?
My daughter had one of these and there was a crack in the head exactly same symptoms. Second hand engine 200 k kilometres in Cyprus. There will be loads of these engines available
Might be able to part it out wheels rims look ok
Good video. The world is full of crooks. It happens.....
Everything is great with hindsight. But at least you put steps in place to minimise the risk of it happening again.
Car pro had a Skoda owned by some person who was living in sandringham claimed to have been something to do with King Charles. He was dodgy. Can you do a demolition derby at the farm with the two scrap suzukis.? Even more satisfying
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Ouch!
This is the motor trade,BCA and others sell cars like this everyday unseen and unheard on their internet sales which dealers buy every day and then realise what a mistake they’ve made when the vehicle is delivered. There will not one dealer who hasn’t been caught out at sometime so don’t be to sad about it your not the first and certainly won’t be the last to fall foul of these things when dealing with bangers,put it in an auction with a sold as seen no warranty ticket on it,tart it up a little I’m sure some other dealer will snap it up thinking he’s snapped a bargain up,its a tough trade your in and I think paying £600-00 for that car is not the disaster your making it out to be,£600-00 in the motor trade is loose change and you know it or should do,you probably made more than twice that amount on the car you sold him so suck it up and move on,you can’t win them all as I’ve found out over the last 50 years selling vehicles.
Put oil down the pot and do a compression reading, if it goes up it's the rings if no change it's a valve.
They want you to provide terms that virtually guarantees them a perfect vehicle for a decent period of time. Only right they offer px on the same or similar terms. Obviously the buyer can’t warrant the px goods but an assurance it is free from catastrophic fault or serious running condition problems seems absolutely fair to me. BUT as I’ve been told many times …..who wants to get shut of a good motor with plenty of life in it? Nobody ….. perhaps px’s shut only ever be considered as dogs and valued as such….it’s a difficult one though for sure.
i love the way you park that thing up lol is that why you dont move the ones at the car lot
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Great Copart candidate
We are a jeweller near to you. It’s the same with pre-owned jewellery. Move it on quickly or dismantle for the component parts. Nothing sits still.
Must be just me being a big softy, but 6 years ago, I p/x'd my car and TOLD them that sometimes the clutch juddered on take off. The salesman seemed to really appreciate my honesty, but told me it wouldn't affect the trade in value or the deal, and not to worry about it.
8:10 The greatest gilet zip scandal I've seen this week!
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Would be great if you could sell the parts as they are worth far more than scrap value. Big business in second hand parts??
was wondering whether the consumer rights act would apply to you as a buyer of the PX here ?
At a garage I worked at they'd make you run it as a demo to teach you a lesson, I was once put in a brown 1.0 nova saloon (90s)due to my reckless behaviour.
If someone said they were a doctor in that kind of situation - I'd instantly trust them less as they don't understand business or taking a loss because of someone else, and have no idea of the challenges of being self employed.
just want to say you're becoming one of my fave youtubers and id buy a car off you in a heart beat! btw do you want to part ex a 09 focus with 150k on the clock but you can only test drive it if I can leave the car running........
Nice jumper. I have one the same. 😂
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Wonder if it was a miss fuel at some point
Took in a Nissan Note from a former neighbour / friend - assured it ran like a Swiss Watch - quick check over in the car park - yep looked the part - did the deal giving them a good price - brought car in that night - clutch was completely shot! Forget to apply the ABC - Accept nothing - Believe know one- Check Everything! Have now sold up and retired.
Oh for the days when engines were simple and taking a head off and putting it back on was only a couple of hours. You could get really lucky and put in new rings with stepped top one and have it behaving itself for a year or so. Even short blocks were cheap as chips.
Joe so you aware aware. All those cars you have doing nothing, I called weeks ago and offered to buy the black smart car that you have at the office car park and was told “we cannot sell it”.
Yes. We’re going to fix it…
@@ShiftingMetal I offered to buy it as it was and I would have fixed it
Proven with farm walk round definitely some cars worth saving that will bridge lost profit. Vitara worth fixing if nothing else wrong?! All is not lost.
Use parts from the other vitara?
I know the law regarding rejection from a customer point of view, but haven't a scoobie how it works vice versa. Does the same rules apply as if it were a private sale when a dealer purchases from a customer? i.e. Is there no way a dealer can reject a car?
Doctor of Criminology 😂 well at least it makes for a good story
Put a caravan wobbly box on the vitara will be fine
08:12 body warmer getting tight😅
When a member of the public sells (trades in) a car to a dealer it is a private sale, caveat emptor, you have no legal recourse, nor can you, as a dealer, legally put anything in the purchase agreement obliging a private seller to essentially offer you a warranty. What you are proposing to do falls under the Unfair Contract Terms Act 1977, which prevents a trader from imposing terms on a transaction that cause an imbalance to the detriment of the rights of the consumer.
Plenty of others manage including Webuyanycar, I doubt they’re flouting the law
@@ShiftingMetal I doubt that very much, as a business you cannot legally demand a consumer essentially provides a warranty on a car sold to you. There’s certainly absolutely nothing in the wbac terms and conditions that states they will or can reduce the amount payable after a deal has been done. As a business the onus is on you to check any vehicle you purchase is to the standard you require - do you demand BCA provide you with a warranty on “sold as seen” cars, would you expect them to refund you money if you discovered a fault on a car sold with no guarantee?
Longer videos would be appreciated. More auction content ,as well. Kindest regards,Sunshine Coast,BC 🇨🇦🇨🇦
Chops likes Suzukis - some of that other stock might be up his street as well. Have you had a borescope in the engine - might just be a valve? As a general rule Suzuki is good at making engines.
Hi Joe. I just joined and its pending at the minute. Jesus Joe, you can't trust anyone these days, bro. To be fair to you guys, this Vitara looks great 👍 so I can understand what happened. And it's a proper letdown. It destroys any faith you have in the public. And I'm pissing off now as well, lol. QQ Joe, do you not have another engine laying around by any chance. Stupid question, I know, as you probably are thinking the same thing. Don't tell me they trailered this shit box to your place and hid around the corner 😅😅. Sad people 😕. I would be knocking on their front door the same day, lol. Joe, please have FAITH, my friend. You're a good man, and people who know you trust you and your judgement 💯. Even I and we have never met trust you 1000%. So don't let this shite hinder what you do, mate. Chat soon. Respect 🙏 🫡 🇮🇪🥰
Thanks Liam, i don’t think it’s worth the hassle to fix, just move on to the next one for a better result 👌
Hi Bill from Liverpool here on this video you never told us about the 61 plate BMW Mini can you send info on it and what you asking thanks Bill 👀😀👍 oh the mini on the farm lot
Bummer m8. 😮
£3 and 2 mars bars ok? lol 😂 great content
Wonder what the phd mob would have done to you if you stitched them. Not so passive methinks. I think that engine is salvageable if 55 k genuine. No compression can mean a lot of things. The exhaust suggests unburnt fuel and maybe valve not necessarily piston. Find a scrap engine or strip top engine. I hrs job. Or sell as is these a really sought after, proper 4wd. Many uses. Great you humility over the matter. Doesnt Jason do the car check?
Maybe you should do a code scan on all part ex
You could do banger racing down the farm 😂
I think the low mileage caught your guy off guard. least its a cheap lesson in the grand scheme of things.
So, yup, WeBuyAnyCar have these clauses, heard front one punter who sold a BMW, major engine fault. WBAC reserved right take £1000 back before paid out 72 hours later !
Yes we know all about vehicle score
That’s good 😄
Can't believe a doctor would do something like that not good 😮
Remember that when they next offer you something 'safe and effective'.
Joe, could you not take the engine out the rusty one and put it in this one? Might reduce your loss?
My Brother in Law got 'turned over' on a Mini Cooper, by an alleged Dr. Patel and his Wife, (also Dr Patel), It's the oldest scam routine in the book.
Hmm are both vitaras the same? Hows the engine in the other one you got? Honestly feel sorry for you guys after all the effort you put in for people
This made me laugh out loud 😂😂😂.
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If it's a bent valve a 2nd hand head swap might fix it
9:28 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
Someone probably desperately needs just that front bumper oh well 😂😂😂😂😂
🤷♂️ too bad 😂
Make one good one out of the two Vitaras you have salvage some profit??
It would be possible but just not efficient use of our time
Why don't you do Vehicle Score when appraising the PEX. That 17 Vitara looked nice.
Doctor Who???
Always do a quick mot check on everything, p ex or buying in (customers do) you'd have been wise to that, another idea is management checks the p ex while the salesman does the nice stuff with the customer, then salesman is on the customers side against the hard nosed sales manager, you know, sorry manager says this...
We’re getting a tech to do test drives and checks now
@@ShiftingMetal anybody with any idea bud can at least go up the road and check stuff, do like an appraisal check list, salesman are too eager to do the deal so their not ideal for p exes, I bet tbh you'd have not bought virtually any of your p exs, I find plenty of St deal customers, I've not taken a p x in for mths. I'm actually just working on a micra auto I took in 3 years ago (!) full paint, auto box had a crack in it, sealed with araldite, I've had box off and alloy welded, all this to get my leg out of it(!) bet you can guess where it came from as well(!)
Induction
Compression
Power
Exhaust
On any four stroke engine
That’s what I said 🤷♂️😉😂
@@ShiftingMetal I know. But it’s implanted on my brain from agricultural college. It was a fail if you didn’t write like that. And no I’m not a cow doctor 🤣🤣🤣
I have worked with car salesmen from all walks of life and, with a very few notable exceptions, they are warm hearted, but gullible believers. They have to believe because they sell for a living and the belief that they will earn an income based purely on sales commission is a very strong motivation. Trouble is, their optimistic outlook blindsides them to the publics' deceit and that's how they end up being easily cheated. I have been present on so many occasions when a salesman is completely disillusioned by the duplicity of the people they have done business with.
If its a burnt out valve, head off, it's worth doing, it would be 2995 then. I hardly ever take p exs in, I look at it like you'd not be buying their car for good money if it was offered to you, most people p ex ing to smaller dealers on cheaper cars their car is faulty, as you say easy to give 1500 and it's only scrap.