I was more baffled at how big of a flop WW84 was. Even taking COVID into consideration, the movie was hot garbage. As much as I liked Wonder Woman, WW84 killed the franchise.
The DCU can't string 2 good movies movies together and is continuing to show it works better on TV shows than theaters. I mean look at Shazam and Joker. Somehow, Suicide Squad did it in reverse.
@@npckse8508 Regarding that movie, then its biggest flaw is actually having been made, because some one forgot to pay attention to what Diana said in Batman v Superman about how she had turned her back on humanity a long time ago, which people found out in the 2017 movie obviously was because of the death of Steve Trevor. She was not suppose to be running around in 1984 saving people as she did in WW84.
I watched the original Mean Girls just a few years ago and I thought it was going to be absolute overhyped trash but it actually ended up being really good!
Or that Whoopi Goldberg would give an Oscar winning performance playing the con-woman psychic who turns out to have actual psychic powers, only to get heavily mixed-up in the criminal underworld and having to work with Sam's widow to save both their lives. It was an amazing performance and she rightly criticised the AMPAS for not treating romance and comedy movies with the respect they deserve.
Titanic went so far over budget (most expensive movie ever at the time) that most people in the industry didn’t think it had a chance to make a profit. They were way wrong.
Critics needs to stop calling acclaimed performers Underrated. Andy Serkis isn't underrated, he's highly celebrated and part of almost every major franchise. In what way is Andy Serkis underrated?
Ask random people what he's been in and 4 out of 5 would have no idea who he is. I think he's great, but most people couldn't name 2 movies he's been in.
@@kwebb121765 He has won awards, he just doesn't have an Oscar. Wait, do you subscribe to the absurd idea that an Oscar is the only award that matters?
Mean Girls the musical was not exactly a massive hit as indicated by the theme of the list. 36 mil + marketing against a $100 million worldwide gross means it likely lost money when you take into theatre cuts in the US and other territories.
Fun fact, Demi Moore said that she felt the same way about reading the script for The Substance that she felt about the script for Ghost, in that they were both so out-of-the-box that they were either going to be really good or really bad
Last Wish was soooo different from what I was expecting! It stands proudly next to Shrek 1 and 2 as great examples of animated storytelling with heart for that series!
@@jjwhalen2587 I was like what are you talking about the first Transformers movie made money and then I realized you meant that crap Animated one from last year.
The orginal Gene Wilder Charlie film was a flop but overtime became a classic. Same with the Rocky Horror Show and On Her Majestry s Secret Service and others. The only critic that matters is time.
100% agree me and my friends saw it in theater and there were literal police officers outside of the theater checking ticket stubs to make sure kids weren't getting in I had never seen that before
critics loved john wick. the issue there was that keanu reeves was generally known for not being a great actor and hadn't made bank for a long time. everyone was pleasantly surprised with how good it was when it came out, and it revitalized reeves' career.
@@plankton1234567899 I don't think there was enough buzz concerning John Wick prior to release for critics to make predictions. It is like that other success. Kingsman. No one cared before it came out.
I wouldn't call 2024 Mean Girls or Twisters massive hits. Based on their budgets and box office, they probably made back their money, but where hardly financially hits.
@@rickyhood8213 now add in the usual 50% of the budget for marketing (so add $75 million to that $150 million budget), then take out at least 40% of that $370 million for the theater cut.
@@npckse8508 But you also have to factor in the theater cut. So the studio is only getting back at best 60% of the box office. So the studio only got back around $220 million from the box office. Now add in the $150 million budget and probably $75 million in marketing. So the studio probably broke even at the box office, so that doesn't make it a box office hit.
Same can be said for Avatar it only made like 78 million on its OW and lots of people at the time where saying massive flop. And we all know how that turned out
Ghost was the biggest film of 1990 and I never heard a single person or critic say that it wasn't going to be a hit. The only people surprised by its success were some of the cast and Whatculture, apparently. Twisters only disappointment, was the lack of connection to the first film; other than the 'Dorothy sensor machine' at the start, which wasn't even acknowledged as existing research.
Surprised Barbie didn't make this. A movie based on doll/toy that was in production for 14 years? Sounds like a disaster yet it made 1.4 billion and stands as a top 20 highest grossing movie of all time.
After Joel Schumacher's Batman and Robin, i refused to see Batman Begins because i thought it would be trash. My friend dragged me to see it and it is in my top 10 all time faves.
Yeah, no way known I was going to watch Batman Begins, but my flatmate at the time - who was a cinephile, so I trusted him - told me it was a must see, and I was very pleasantly surprised.
Well yeah, different writers, directors, actors, everything. I grew up watching the Adam West reruns of campy Batman from the 70's. I then saw Keaton's Batman when I was a kiddo and was pleasantly surprised at the seriousness. I didn't understand all of it at the time, but I knew I loved it! I pretend that Clooney 's Batman and Robin does not exist and watch Keaton, Kilmer, Bale, and even Affleck and I'm happy. Of and don't forget the 90s cartoon with the of Kevin Conroy- RIP.
I thought Star Wars was going to be number 1 - go watch the 1977 trailer and tell me (honestly) that you would look forward to it. I'm going to go for Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle - it felt like a lazy movie that was going to be a retread of the Robin Williams classic with big names that studio execs think are easy money. Instead it was an entertaining romp and included a touching tribute to Williams.
Clearly Glen Powell was an important factor in a couple of these movies succeeding. Also, if David Ayer directed The Beekeeper, somebody must have thought it had some potential at some point. That dude is pretty solid writer and director.
I happened to work near one of the scenes where they were filming Ghost. When I heard they were filming a scene with Patrick Swayze and Whoopi Goldberg I expected a full fledged comedy.
Wonka was a good movie, but not as Great as the Original one. You can’t top Wilder, he was phenomenal. I still haven’t seen Mean Girls remake. I still believe they can do a Mean Girls High School Reunion. Bring everyone back from the 2004 film. That would sell.
Favourite musical: _The Wizard of Oz,_ which did not get stellar reviews when it opened. Trailers for _Anyone But You_ had me waiting to see it: soon in I realized it was _Much Ado About Nothing:_ the only downside to which during the singing ends credits that they display that title as a Bonk Bonk On The Head to those who might not recognize the Shakespeare storyline.
Titanic. The press and some experts predicted a commercial failure, thinking the film would be too long (3 hours movie were not the norm back in the days) and too expensive. And, Leonardo DiCaprio and Kate Winslet were not yet major stars.
Gareth my dude! I like you, a lot actually, and I don't know if it's your script, but it's only on the videos you present but lord above. Please tone it down with the engagement begging! Ya don't need to ask the audience to like, comment etc after every other entry!
When it comes to "Twisters", the trailers didn't do it any favors. If they had put out good trailers, how much MORE could it have made. Full disclosure, "Twister" is my favorite movie ever. When I seen they were making a sequel that was set to come out 28 years after the original, I had very low hopes it would be any good. Then I looked at the cast, and seen no name that I recognized outside of Michael Crichton, the writer of the original and though, this won't be good at all. Then I watched it on Prime when it was released on there and the first 20-30 minutes full on pissed me off because it felt like they were trying to cater to the youtube content creator community instead of fans of the original. But, as the movie went along is got a lot better, to by the end I said, "You know? This was pretty damn good, outside of the first 20-30 minutes."
I've just streamed 2 of the list over xmas. Last wish was amazing, a great surprise, probably one of the best animated films I can remember. Twisters on the other hand was a mess, I found it boring and pointless, it doesn't commit it to the romance, it doesn't commit to talk about climate change, it just feels empty and does the bare minimun to justified overly done FXs
American Graffiti was a 200 to 1 shoot!? 700K out 140M in!? Every investment level came UP! Imagine being the timid 1000$ prospect on this, finally giving in to peer pressure to "get in the game" and next thing you know you get a check for 200,000$ 🤯
Man I knew planet of the apes was going to go hard. Even though the first one I had seen was that really shitty reboot that they tried with Mark Wahlberg. My dad insisted on making me watch the original ones. And after watching them I could see why. Really thought provoking. I remember walking out of the theater with him beaming about how good the reboot was.
I find this video quite hilarious, but it also proves how even the best and brightest in the business don't trust a filmmaker's vision and doubt that it will make them money, but time and time again, they have been proven wrong when the filmmaker and their film is successful, despite them turning it down for whatever reason. It seems Hollywood thinks they know what is and isn't a hit, but this video confirms that nine times out of ten, they really don't.
All I know about Wonka is a brief clip I heard of Chalamet singing that I thought was atrocious. I already don't like him all that much so I don't see any reason to suffer through a movie I'd almost certainly hate.
A few of these may be worth watching as I didn't see them the fist time around. However most of them may best be filed in the circular bin and forgotton. The original versions were done so well to reboot/remake them was a travesty. Especially multiple times. It just shows that Hollywoke doesn't have any more original and creative ideas in their heads.
Generally, I love an underdog story, and when a movie that everyone expects to tank does well, I'm happy...but the MEAN GIRLS remake didn't do an impressively good job at the box office. According to this video, the remake made $100 million at the box office in 2024, roughly 3x the budget of $36 million which, according to general Hollywood accounting, means it was profitable...however, the original 2004 MEAN GIRLS made $130 million at the box office on a budget of only $18 million making it WAY more successful, by every measure. To hammer that point home, the original's budget and box office today, adjusted for inflation, would be $30 million and $217+ million respectively. So, the remake cost more and made way less. Nobody asked for it and very few folks wanted it.
That is not remotely accurate. It was designed as a series and the head of Disney said it was too good of a story to relegate to streaming and it needed to be a movie with wide release, expecting it to be more successful than MOANA
There seems to be a MASSIVE recency bias in this list. Most of these movies are too recent to even be considered massive hits. They might have not flopped, they were even successful, but, with only a few exceptions, they are not likely to be classics or anything. Most are still fairly forgettable and, despite unexpectedly turning a profit, aren't even hits today. Let's try to think of a few films that would have been better additions to this list than anything released in the past couple years: X-Men Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl Iron Man Titanic The Lord of the Rings Star Wars Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan The Invisible Man (2020) True Grit (2010) I'm pretty sure that any of these would easily make the list over at least half of your current entries.
Twisters bombed. It absolutely flopped in foreign markets and likely lost money in theaters. A movie has to make roughly 2.5x its budget to break even, which it didn't do.
@@rickyhood8213 Budget doesn't include marketing or investor cuts or theater cuts or foreign distribution cuts. Like I said, a movie has to make roughly 2.5x its budget to break even. That means Twisters needed to make 387M to break even...which it did not. Honestly if you want to be a knob to people in comments, you should at least know what your knobbing about first.
Just coming here to say the same thing. It was a charmless hack job with too many characters that went nowhere (especially the Monica Bellucci arc) and, for some bizarre reason, highlighted Jefferey Jones' (a convicted pedophile) character while ignoring the Maitlands, Otho, and others. My family and I left the theatre before the end, having feeling betrayed after absolutely adoring the original.
@@philsurtees but... but... it's teh interwebz and if you can find one or two people to agree, then that means EVERYONE agrees with your opinion which then makes your opinions FACTS, right? lol
Good list. I would have included James Cameron's "Titanic." It was supposed to open in the summer, got delayed till Christmas, had a lot of bad press around it with jokes comparing the fate of the unseen movie of the titular ship. Yet it seemed to do okay. 😏
12:59 I was so disappointed by this movie. The tornados were so badly filmed and edited that I didn’t know what I was looking at half the time. And this was my most-anticipated movie of 2024. 😩
I didn't buy the ending.... She runs off to save everybody by sacrificing herself then after the tornado hurls her into oblivion she gets out of the car wreck with a battered arm....😅 That wasn't even the only same scenario in the movie, because in the middle of the movie when that couple runs away from the tornado gets in a similar car and the same happens to them but the movie makes it pretty clear they died.... So why did she live if the same thing happened to her? I would at least add a reason why she lives, like that scene where she started pressing buttons in the car, I would have added a button to open airbags deployed all inside the vehicle or anything to make it believable that she survives ...😅😂
The issue is critics live in a bubble that's out of touch with general audiences, and in more recent times - especially in the last 15 years or so - the cynical & pessimistic Internet fan communities live in a bubble that's even more out of touch than the critics. At a glance, the main issue is that most Internet fan communities act like the cast of Girls (Judd Apatow, Lena Dunham), defining their tastes far more strongly by what they hate than what they like. Their fandom takes the form of crusades against actors and film creators - something the vast majority of people see as a big waste of time undertaken only by people with way too much time on their hands.
"Mufasa" opened slowly, but like "Showman", has shown great "legs". It has now grossed over $500 million worldwide. And where are all those Disney haters on UA-cam that were cackling so gleefully at another failure? Not one has had the guts to admit they were wrong. But that would mean having some self-awareness and an ability to be a bit humble.
It was a mid overblown CGI barf fest ... And I loved the first one . Just because a movie makes a ton of money doesn't make it good _(Age of Ultron made 1.4 billion)_ 😅
@@alejandropacheco7832 I never said it was a good movie. I said it was making money, after a lot of people on UA-cam were calling it a bomb, a disaster, and a huge money loser. Those people were wrong. Disney has made a lot of money losing films, but to cheer for them to fail? That is petty.
@jerryschramm4399 ... I see your point but they are kinda right in that Disney is overall losing more money than they are making, and the contrast we see is when Disney would pump out movie after movie and they would ALL make tons of money, you know when they only had Pixar and had not yet bought Marvel and Star Wars.... Now out of 5 movies maybe 1 is good, so they have fallen hard
$120M on a $36M budget is a long way from a hit. Using the standard 2.5-3 times budget to break even, the film barely broke even, let alone made enough to be considered a hit.
@@vender68 in what maths is 120 4 times 36? It's 3.333r times the budget, closer to 3 times than 4. If it takes 2.5 times to break even (roughly), making a profit of less than the movies budget, is at no level a "massive hit".
@@PrinceIsotRight? What a weird criticism. As if her being attractive is either a choice or somehow a detriment to her talent. Plus, Sweeney’s working on a boxing biopic of Christy Martin. She’s not looking to be eye candy. She’s just enjoying an emerging career.
Wonder Woman (2017). A lot of people believed that one would fail, but its one of the absolute most
successful movies within the DCEU.
That's a pretty low bar, though.
I was more baffled at how big of a flop WW84 was. Even taking COVID into consideration, the movie was hot garbage. As much as I liked Wonder Woman, WW84 killed the franchise.
The DCU can't string 2 good movies movies together and is continuing to show it works better on TV shows than theaters. I mean look at Shazam and Joker. Somehow, Suicide Squad did it in reverse.
@@npckse8508 Regarding that movie, then its biggest flaw is actually having been made, because some one forgot to pay attention to what Diana said in Batman v Superman about how she had turned her back on humanity a long time ago, which people found out in the 2017 movie obviously was because of the death of Steve Trevor.
She was not suppose to be running around in 1984 saving people as she did in WW84.
@@syntrilliumc.e.p.9326Exactly!
Three words: Sonic. The. Hedgehog.
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I watched the original Mean Girls just a few years ago and I thought it was going to be absolute overhyped trash but it actually ended up being really good!
@@kingdonut6675 I think you replied to the wrong comment here
@fashionablechangeling2003 No they didn't. Mortal Kombat was the best 90s video game movie!
@@Rand0m_H3r0 I was responding to the person talking about Mean Girls, replying to a comment about Sonic. What are you talking about?
You wouldn't think that the guy behind "Airplane" could create a movie as heartbreaking and moving as "Ghost", but it surprisingly works.
tragedy and comedy go hand in hand.
Or that Whoopi Goldberg would give an Oscar winning performance playing the con-woman psychic who turns out to have actual psychic powers, only to get heavily mixed-up in the criminal underworld and having to work with Sam's widow to save both their lives. It was an amazing performance and she rightly criticised the AMPAS for not treating romance and comedy movies with the respect they deserve.
Titanic went so far over budget (most expensive movie ever at the time) that most people in the industry didn’t think it had a chance to make a profit. They were way wrong.
Mean girls 2024 made about 10 million in profit. Hard to consider that a massive hit
Critics needs to stop calling acclaimed performers Underrated.
Andy Serkis isn't underrated, he's highly celebrated and part of almost every major franchise.
In what way is Andy Serkis underrated?
Ask random people what he's been in and 4 out of 5 would have no idea who he is. I think he's great, but most people couldn't name 2 movies he's been in.
@@goingrogue2236 Sorry, I just don't believe that's true. Maybe with the over 60 demographic.
@@kwebb121765 He has won awards, he just doesn't have an Oscar. Wait, do you subscribe to the absurd idea that an Oscar is the only award that matters?
He WAS underrated. Now he's rated.
Indeed, Serkis is the 'Harryhausen' of Mo-Cap.
Mean Girls the musical was not exactly a massive hit as indicated by the theme of the list. 36 mil + marketing against a $100 million worldwide gross means it likely lost money when you take into theatre cuts in the US and other territories.
Fun fact, Demi Moore said that she felt the same way about reading the script for The Substance that she felt about the script for Ghost, in that they were both so out-of-the-box that they were either going to be really good or really bad
Last Wish was soooo different from what I was expecting! It stands proudly next to Shrek 1 and 2 as great examples of animated storytelling with heart for that series!
The Last Wish is an awesome dark fantasy book. Any story with Geralt the Witcher is good.
Not only did American Graffiti do well in theaters but it was the impetus for the TV show Happy Days which was also very successful.
Has anyone forgotten about the first Terminator or Robocop!? Each were considered laughable in concept - and ended up becoming hits.
Exactly. Right on brother
There's was one more. Transformers one. Everyone thought it would fail because of the trailers but the actual movie proved them wrong
It wasn't a hit and lost money in theaters. The list isn't about how good a movie is but being a "hit"... mean made money.
Unfortunately, it did fail. It was a perfectly good movie, but tanked at the box office
@@jjwhalen2587 I was like what are you talking about the first Transformers movie made money and then I realized you meant that crap Animated one from last year.
Without *American Graffiti* we wouldn't have had *Happy Days*
And then we wouldn't have had the meme of *jumping the shark*
The orginal Gene Wilder Charlie film was a flop but overtime became a classic. Same with the Rocky Horror Show and On Her Majestry s Secret Service and others. The only critic that matters is time.
The Greatest Showman was Awesome 🎬🎤
Best musical ever is South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut.
100% agree me and my friends saw it in theater and there were literal police officers outside of the theater checking ticket stubs to make sure kids weren't getting in I had never seen that before
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Cabin in the woods. I got talked into watching and after watching it I was glad I did.
I’m surprised you didn’t mention John Wick i heard the first one wasn’t liked by critics but fans proved them wrong thankfully
What are you talking about? The first John Wick movie (and the franchise as a whole) are critical darlings.
critics loved john wick. the issue there was that keanu reeves was generally known for not being a great actor and hadn't made bank for a long time. everyone was pleasantly surprised with how good it was when it came out, and it revitalized reeves' career.
There was no expectations with John Wick. No one thought enough about it to have predictions.
@@plankton1234567899 I don't think there was enough buzz concerning John Wick prior to release for critics to make predictions. It is like that other success. Kingsman. No one cared before it came out.
My favorite movie/musical of all time is Grease.
Apocalypse Now... Amazing it even made it to post-production.
I wouldn't call 2024 Mean Girls or Twisters massive hits. Based on their budgets and box office, they probably made back their money, but where hardly financially hits.
TWISTERS made 370M on just over 150M budget, so what was that you were yammering about?
@@rickyhood8213 now add in the usual 50% of the budget for marketing (so add $75 million to that $150 million budget), then take out at least 40% of that $370 million for the theater cut.
Mean Girls definitely wasn't a massive hit, but Twister did all right even once you factor in marketing
@@npckse8508 But you also have to factor in the theater cut. So the studio is only getting back at best 60% of the box office. So the studio only got back around $220 million from the box office. Now add in the $150 million budget and probably $75 million in marketing. So the studio probably broke even at the box office, so that doesn't make it a box office hit.
How does "Titanic" not top this list ? There was a constant 'Titanic Watch' in Variety for months beforehand ?
No one expected it to flop before it was released, the focus of this list.
@@joshgaudrum yes they did. A budget that high was unheard of then
@@joshgaudr Variety may have well have been counting down until Twentieth-century Fox's implosion...22 years before it actually happened.
Same can be said for Avatar it only made like 78 million on its OW and lots of people at the time where saying massive flop. And we all know how that turned out
Jason Statham is one of my favorite action star. I am a fan of the 80's and 90"s action flicks and he's movies still gives me those kinds of vibes.
Ghost was the biggest film of 1990 and I never heard a single person or critic say that it wasn't going to be a hit. The only people surprised by its success were some of the cast and Whatculture, apparently.
Twisters only disappointment, was the lack of connection to the first film; other than the 'Dorothy sensor machine' at the start, which wasn't even acknowledged as existing research.
Surprised Barbie didn't make this. A movie based on doll/toy that was in production for 14 years? Sounds like a disaster yet it made 1.4 billion and stands as a top 20 highest grossing movie of all time.
Probably but there had already been so many animated Barbie movies that were popular among kids that a live action one wasn't that surprising.
Also Super Mario! I legit thought none will be hit but they made big.
@@LePenseurThinksALOTI mean, 1.4 billion after 14 years tho
Barbie had a brilliant marketing plan though, and the Barbenheimer thing worked wonders, too
@@DavidGowers I feel those things were more luck. The internet did the heavy lifting
After Joel Schumacher's Batman and Robin, i refused to see Batman Begins because i thought it would be trash. My friend dragged me to see it and it is in my top 10 all time faves.
Yeah, no way known I was going to watch Batman Begins, but my flatmate at the time - who was a cinephile, so I trusted him - told me it was a must see, and I was very pleasantly surprised.
Well yeah, different writers, directors, actors, everything. I grew up watching the Adam West reruns of campy Batman from the 70's. I then saw Keaton's Batman when I was a kiddo and was pleasantly surprised at the seriousness. I didn't understand all of it at the time, but I knew I loved it! I pretend that Clooney 's Batman and Robin does not exist and watch Keaton, Kilmer, Bale, and even Affleck and I'm happy. Of and don't forget the 90s cartoon with the of Kevin Conroy- RIP.
I loved The Beekeeper last year I want a sequel in the future
I went to Twisters to watch Glen Powell and left thoroughly entertained. It was a great film.
Favorite musical film? Either Anna and the Apocalypse or Repo! The Genetic Opera.
Repo for sure
I thought Star Wars was going to be number 1 - go watch the 1977 trailer and tell me (honestly) that you would look forward to it.
I'm going to go for Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle - it felt like a lazy movie that was going to be a retread of the Robin Williams classic with big names that studio execs think are easy money. Instead it was an entertaining romp and included a touching tribute to Williams.
Clearly Glen Powell was an important factor in a couple of these movies succeeding. Also, if David Ayer directed The Beekeeper, somebody must have thought it had some potential at some point. That dude is pretty solid writer and director.
“Anyone but you” is a great movie
Hahaha
I thought Mean Girls Remake last year was decent
Fave Musicals:
Camelot
West Side Story (Original)
Grease
Mamma Mia!
The Phantom of the Opera
I happened to work near one of the scenes where they were filming Ghost. When I heard they were filming a scene with Patrick Swayze and Whoopi Goldberg I expected a full fledged comedy.
Wonka was a good movie, but not as Great as the Original one. You can’t top Wilder, he was phenomenal. I still haven’t seen Mean Girls remake. I still believe they can do a Mean Girls High School Reunion. Bring everyone back from the 2004 film. That would sell.
Twisters has an Awesome Country Music Soundtrack 🎤
I hate twisters, but I love the beekeeper lol 😅
Favourite musical: _The Wizard of Oz,_ which did not get stellar reviews when it opened.
Trailers for _Anyone But You_ had me waiting to see it: soon in I realized it was _Much Ado About Nothing:_ the only downside to which during the singing ends credits that they display that title as a Bonk Bonk On The Head to those who might not recognize the Shakespeare storyline.
My favorite might still be Singin In The Rain. But I kinda love em all.
Titanic. The press and some experts predicted a commercial failure, thinking the film would be too long (3 hours movie were not the norm back in the days) and too expensive. And, Leonardo DiCaprio and Kate Winslet were not yet major stars.
The only reason I wasn;t surprised that Titanic performed is that James Cameron made it and I think he tends to make movies that make money.
The most prominent one is John Wick.
Evita and Sweeney Todd are my favorite musical
You guys included Wicked on a list about a year ago about upcoming bombs, and we all saw how that turned out…. 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Gareth my dude! I like you, a lot actually, and I don't know if it's your script, but it's only on the videos you present but lord above. Please tone it down with the engagement begging! Ya don't need to ask the audience to like, comment etc after every other entry!
For musicals, there is South Park, Chicago, and of course, The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas.
The Beekeeper 2: A Working Man
Blues brothers
Same with Animal House . Studio execs didn't understand them .
When it comes to "Twisters", the trailers didn't do it any favors. If they had put out good trailers, how much MORE could it have made. Full disclosure, "Twister" is my favorite movie ever. When I seen they were making a sequel that was set to come out 28 years after the original, I had very low hopes it would be any good. Then I looked at the cast, and seen no name that I recognized outside of Michael Crichton, the writer of the original and though, this won't be good at all. Then I watched it on Prime when it was released on there and the first 20-30 minutes full on pissed me off because it felt like they were trying to cater to the youtube content creator community instead of fans of the original. But, as the movie went along is got a lot better, to by the end I said, "You know? This was pretty damn good, outside of the first 20-30 minutes."
I've just streamed 2 of the list over xmas. Last wish was amazing, a great surprise, probably one of the best animated films I can remember. Twisters on the other hand was a mess, I found it boring and pointless, it doesn't commit it to the romance, it doesn't commit to talk about climate change, it just feels empty and does the bare minimun to justified overly done FXs
American Graffiti was a 200 to 1 shoot!? 700K out 140M in!? Every investment level came UP! Imagine being the timid 1000$ prospect on this, finally giving in to peer pressure to "get in the game" and next thing you know you get a check for 200,000$ 🤯
To each their own, but for me, 10,4,and 2 deserved to flop
well it's a good thing the rest of the world isn't you and obviously your opinion is your own, because they didn't flop at all.
I love how American Graffiti launched three spin-off TV shows. Or was it four? Happy Days, Lavern and Sherlie, Jonie loves Chachi....
Technically, _Mork And Mindy._
@John_Smith_60 i knew it was 4
Man I knew planet of the apes was going to go hard. Even though the first one I had seen was that really shitty reboot that they tried with Mark Wahlberg. My dad insisted on making me watch the original ones. And after watching them I could see why. Really thought provoking. I remember walking out of the theater with him beaming about how good the reboot was.
I find this video quite hilarious, but it also proves how even the best and brightest in the business don't trust a filmmaker's vision and doubt that it will make them money, but time and time again, they have been proven wrong when the filmmaker and their film is successful, despite them turning it down for whatever reason. It seems Hollywood thinks they know what is and isn't a hit, but this video confirms that nine times out of ten, they really don't.
All I know about Wonka is a brief clip I heard of Chalamet singing that I thought was atrocious. I already don't like him all that much so I don't see any reason to suffer through a movie I'd almost certainly hate.
Interesting that you completely ignored Tim Burton's Wonka film.
A few of these may be worth watching as I didn't see them the fist time around. However most of them may best be filed in the circular bin and forgotton. The original versions were done so well to reboot/remake them was a travesty. Especially multiple times. It just shows that Hollywoke doesn't have any more original and creative ideas in their heads.
still think rise of the planet of the apes was just ok. it was dawn that set the tone for the rest of the rebooted series..
I want to see the Beekeeper.
The movie Twister was never a franchise. LOL.
Generally, I love an underdog story, and when a movie that everyone expects to tank does well, I'm happy...but the MEAN GIRLS remake didn't do an impressively good job at the box office. According to this video, the remake made $100 million at the box office in 2024, roughly 3x the budget of $36 million which, according to general Hollywood accounting, means it was profitable...however, the original 2004 MEAN GIRLS made $130 million at the box office on a budget of only $18 million making it WAY more successful, by every measure.
To hammer that point home, the original's budget and box office today, adjusted for inflation, would be $30 million and $217+ million respectively. So, the remake cost more and made way less.
Nobody asked for it and very few folks wanted it.
Are you factoring in marketing costs?
Chalamet is so overrated
One correction, American Graffiti took place in the 50’s.
No, American Graffiti took place in 1962.
Wonka is terrible
The best musical of all time, easy. "West Side Story" (1961).
Why did that video look like James Cameron had 4k'd it ?
Annie or idlewood
Moana 2 should be on this list. Before it was released, there was a lot of talk that it would go straight to DVD or streaming. Waaaaaaaaaaaaay off.
That is not remotely accurate. It was designed as a series and the head of Disney said it was too good of a story to relegate to streaming and it needed to be a movie with wide release, expecting it to be more successful than MOANA
I liked Dial of destiny. I feel like it got a bum wrap.
There seems to be a MASSIVE recency bias in this list. Most of these movies are too recent to even be considered massive hits. They might have not flopped, they were even successful, but, with only a few exceptions, they are not likely to be classics or anything. Most are still fairly forgettable and, despite unexpectedly turning a profit, aren't even hits today.
Let's try to think of a few films that would have been better additions to this list than anything released in the past couple years:
X-Men
Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl
Iron Man
Titanic
The Lord of the Rings
Star Wars
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
The Invisible Man (2020)
True Grit (2010)
I'm pretty sure that any of these would easily make the list over at least half of your current entries.
Twisters bombed. It absolutely flopped in foreign markets and likely lost money in theaters. A movie has to make roughly 2.5x its budget to break even, which it didn't do.
It made 370M on 150M budget, so pipe down; you dont actually know everything
@@rickyhood8213 Budget doesn't include marketing or investor cuts or theater cuts or foreign distribution cuts. Like I said, a movie has to make roughly 2.5x its budget to break even. That means Twisters needed to make 387M to break even...which it did not. Honestly if you want to be a knob to people in comments, you should at least know what your knobbing about first.
Well, there's always hope for an awful movie industry and terrible directors: audiences are fkking stupid.
Beetlejuice Beetlejuice was good??? Then we differ on opinion.
you are exactly who I'm talking about... LOL
Just coming here to say the same thing. It was a charmless hack job with too many characters that went nowhere (especially the Monica Bellucci arc) and, for some bizarre reason, highlighted Jefferey Jones' (a convicted pedophile) character while ignoring the Maitlands, Otho, and others. My family and I left the theatre before the end, having feeling betrayed after absolutely adoring the original.
You differ on opinion with the majority, of both paying audiences and critics.
@@philsurtees but... but... it's teh interwebz and if you can find one or two people to agree, then that means EVERYONE agrees with your opinion which then makes your opinions FACTS, right? lol
American Graffiti is sooo overrated. I can't stand that movie. And the continuous praise for it is even more annoying.
If space jam 2 is on here you full of shit
The first Iron Man
It's still better than it's sequels
Obviously, the best movie musical ever is Grease.
Twisters is a great example of knowing who your audience is
Good list. I would have included James Cameron's "Titanic." It was supposed to open in the summer, got delayed till Christmas, had a lot of bad press around it with jokes comparing the fate of the unseen movie of the titular ship. Yet it seemed to do okay. 😏
It did better than ok.
@@jamespope7669 Sure did! 😏
Anyone but you was without a doubt the worst movie I saw in 2023
12:59 I was so disappointed by this movie. The tornados were so badly filmed and edited that I didn’t know what I was looking at half the time. And this was my most-anticipated movie of 2024. 😩
I didn't buy the ending.... She runs off to save everybody by sacrificing herself then after the tornado hurls her into oblivion she gets out of the car wreck with a battered arm....😅
That wasn't even the only same scenario in the movie, because in the middle of the movie when that couple runs away from the tornado gets in a similar car and the same happens to them but the movie makes it pretty clear they died.... So why did she live if the same thing happened to her?
I would at least add a reason why she lives, like that scene where she started pressing buttons in the car, I would have added a button to open airbags deployed all inside the vehicle or anything to make it believable that she survives ...😅😂
Barbie. 😅
The issue is critics live in a bubble that's out of touch with general audiences, and in more recent times - especially in the last 15 years or so - the cynical & pessimistic Internet fan communities live in a bubble that's even more out of touch than the critics. At a glance, the main issue is that most Internet fan communities act like the cast of Girls (Judd Apatow, Lena Dunham), defining their tastes far more strongly by what they hate than what they like. Their fandom takes the form of crusades against actors and film creators - something the vast majority of people see as a big waste of time undertaken only by people with way too much time on their hands.
"Mufasa" opened slowly, but like "Showman", has shown great "legs". It has now grossed over $500 million worldwide. And where are all those Disney haters on UA-cam that were cackling so gleefully at another failure? Not one has had the guts to admit they were wrong. But that would mean having some self-awareness and an ability to be a bit humble.
It was a mid overblown CGI barf fest ... And I loved the first one . Just because a movie makes a ton of money doesn't make it good _(Age of Ultron made 1.4 billion)_ 😅
@@alejandropacheco7832 I never said it was a good movie. I said it was making money, after a lot of people on UA-cam were calling it a bomb, a disaster, and a huge money loser. Those people were wrong. Disney has made a lot of money losing films, but to cheer for them to fail? That is petty.
@jerryschramm4399 ... I see your point but they are kinda right in that Disney is overall losing more money than they are making, and the contrast we see is when Disney would pump out movie after movie and they would ALL make tons of money, you know when they only had Pixar and had not yet bought Marvel and Star Wars.... Now out of 5 movies maybe 1 is good, so they have fallen hard
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So Mean Girls was a movie based on the stage play based on the movie. Written by the same person. And they say Hollywood is out of original ideas
Chicago. I generally don't think musicals translate well to film, but that one's an exception.
The Beekeeper is maybe the worst film I've seen in years. I love Statham, but that movie was a genuine struggle to get through.
Dial Of Destiny was awesome!
I can't tell you how much it repulses me that musicals have gotten popular again! I thought that CHEESY 💩 died with our Great Grandparents?!?
The beekeeper was atrocious!
Signed a MASSIVE statham fan
$120M on a $36M budget is a long way from a hit. Using the standard 2.5-3 times budget to break even, the film barely broke even, let alone made enough to be considered a hit.
they said it was doomed yet made more than 4x the budget so yeah its more than 3x of what you are saying
@@vender68 in what maths is 120 4 times 36? It's 3.333r times the budget, closer to 3 times than 4. If it takes 2.5 times to break even (roughly), making a profit of less than the movies budget, is at no level a "massive hit".
A serious hip hip hooray for Twisters. Awesome movie.
I wonder if Sydney Sweeney will ever stop trying to be an eye candy
Because something tells me that she won't be relying on that for too long
Is she trying to be eye candy or are people just attracted to her because she's attractive 😂
@@PrinceIsotRight? What a weird criticism. As if her being attractive is either a choice or somehow a detriment to her talent.
Plus, Sweeney’s working on a boxing biopic of Christy Martin. She’s not looking to be eye candy. She’s just enjoying an emerging career.
is she eye candy? Is that what the deal is? You people think she's eye candy? Heh... interesting... 🤔
She's kinda forgettable looking. Same for Powell.
And thats why i always give films a chance, everyone told me to avoid the 2016 ghostbusters, its one of the best films i have seen
Nah... It was crap, but honestly so was Ghostbusters 2
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