MacBook Pro M1 Max Vs Windows laptop; Premier Pro & Davinci Resolve testing. Shocking results!

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  • @sparkplug964
    @sparkplug964 3 роки тому +5

    That new MacBook Pro is not only fast, but a game changer when you take into account the speed increase, and getting work done. Over a period of a year, you could save weeks on time and money spent working with this machine, and on top of all that, you have the battery life. Great piece of kit.

  • @camiloguerrero2
    @camiloguerrero2 3 роки тому +1

    Hey, I just wanted to say..that you help people here to make better decisions and that is very noble I really hope your channel grows a lot.

  • @rongcup
    @rongcup 3 роки тому +4

    This is perfect / I am also a video editor and this is the perfect video. Thanks man! Good luck with your work and I hope the new mbp with that M1 Max chip really increases your business and efficiency!
    Thanks again 🙏🏼

  • @joealley0
    @joealley0 3 роки тому +10

    Perfect video. I edit full time on Davinci, was considering Rog Duo SE last month, but bought 14 inch max specs, makes me feel good about it, thanks for doing it

    • @jon_almas
      @jon_almas  3 роки тому +1

      Yea I think you made the right choice. I’m amazed at these new MacBooks. I knew they were coming and supposed to be good but I expected these type of vs performances to be when you compared fcxp to premier

    • @GurmeetSingh-fr8uo
      @GurmeetSingh-fr8uo 3 роки тому

      Which m1 max? How many gpu core ? Ssd ? And ram ?

  • @Brant_Moore
    @Brant_Moore 3 роки тому +6

    Hey man noticed you’re channel is at less than 20 subscribers and just wanted to say that you did a great job with this!
    I’d love to see a prores export version of this exact video.

  • @fredynoesic
    @fredynoesic 2 роки тому +1

    Simple and straight to the point. Thanks for the video.

  • @nathanjfield
    @nathanjfield 3 роки тому +1

    Great video, much appreciated! 👍 Been looking for a 'non-tribal' comparison of the Asus and MacBook Pro for a while.

  • @TechEnthusiastInc
    @TechEnthusiastInc 3 роки тому +6

    Whoa! That is some impressive Premiere Pro results! Differs quite a lot from other tests out there, tho. Would be interesting to see more side by side comparison between the same laptops but maybe with different footage, codecs and effects. I mean, if this really is the confirmed and double checked real world performance difference, I am off to the MacBook store! Anyway, thanks a lot for a great video!

    • @jon_almas
      @jon_almas  3 роки тому

      Right. I was surprised too. I’m starting to see a few other videos come out from other people with much better than expected premier performance too. I’ll definitely be throwing other projects on it and running them through over time to see how it varies

    • @TechEnthusiastInc
      @TechEnthusiastInc 3 роки тому

      @@jon_almas That's correct, I just watched another video where Premiere Pro beat the crap out of FCP. What is happening? Can't wait for more of your comparison videos.

    • @jon_almas
      @jon_almas  3 роки тому

      @@TechEnthusiastInc it just doesn’t make sense lol. I’m testing a premier project right now on the MacBook and my desktop system full of the best components I could buy and if this is close or even possibly better I will be amazed

    • @TechEnthusiastInc
      @TechEnthusiastInc 3 роки тому

      @@jon_almas What are the specs of the PC?

    • @jon_almas
      @jon_almas  3 роки тому

      Ryzen 9 5950x, Rtx 3090, 128gb ram

  • @Chris-bz9pg
    @Chris-bz9pg 3 роки тому +1

    Love your no bull approach with the real world tests!

  • @TheScrubsfanforever
    @TheScrubsfanforever 3 роки тому +9

    right at the beginning at 2:00 you used the smart render cache, which makes the comparison kind of useless

  • @MishalMr97
    @MishalMr97 3 роки тому +2

    Really informative! Glad to see an actual real world review which will help to make that purchasing decision.

  • @bakkuuzumaki7238
    @bakkuuzumaki7238 3 роки тому +6

    Thank you Ryan Reynolds for the comparison video.

  • @vaguelysober
    @vaguelysober 3 роки тому

    Keep up the testing!

  • @musclehead1992
    @musclehead1992 3 роки тому +2

    The base model 14" is pretty similar in editing times as well. Thanks for the video!

  • @jon_almas
    @jon_almas  3 роки тому +6

    I'm in the middle of moving into a new studio space and lighting is all over-I under exposed and lifted some blacks in post, so please excuse the low contrast! Still can't believe how fast Premier Pro is shaping up to be on these new laptops

    • @moaz5652
      @moaz5652 3 роки тому

      Hey Jon will macbook loss its performance after plug out/Remove Charger of power...?

    • @codythep
      @codythep 3 роки тому +2

      Asd no. Check out reviews- it sustains full load on battery.
      There is a “high power” mode when it’s plugged in, the only difference is it runs the fans faster.

  • @danieldykim
    @danieldykim 2 роки тому +4

    Hey Jon, thanks for the video. I'm in the position of giving recommendations on what video editing machines to buy - so this is helpful. But in my experience, the render time on a windows machine with Nvidia RTX is about 2x faster than an M1.. So I am a bit confused by these comparisons on youtube. The question that seems to go unanswered is: do you have Davinci Resolve "Studio"? (the paid version) - b/c the free version of Resolve does not make use of the GPU encoding. Also, even if you have the paid version, in Resolve "export/deliver" tab, do you have the encoder set to "NVIDIA" instead of "Native"? (Resolve annoyingly defaults to "native" encoder, which doesn't make use of the nvidia GPU encoding). For me, when I do that, the difference in export time is drastic. If your answer to these 2 questions is "yes", then that means I'm missing something and I need to figure out why our M1 rendering is so slow.

    • @jeremyevantaylor1724
      @jeremyevantaylor1724 2 роки тому

      Hello Daniel. Did you ever get an answer to your questions, either from Jon or through your own research? I'm looking to upgrade so my computer can handle 4K Braw editing/color correction with Resolve and Premiere without creating proxies. I would like to stick with PC and not make the leap to the darkside with Mac. Is there a particular PC laptop you recommend? I've been thinking about going with Alienware instead of Asus. Thank you very much!

    • @danieldykim
      @danieldykim 2 роки тому +2

      @@jeremyevantaylor1724 No, I haven't gotten any replies to my questions. And sorry, I don't have any recommendations on PC laptops, because when doing video editing, I like to do it on a hefty desktop with a GPU card. But if you have a external GPU that you can use with the laptop, then I would imagine that you can use it with any PC that has thunderbolt (such as Surface Studio Laptop or Alienware) so that you can use the external GPU in those cases where you need that extra processing power. Mac M1 laptops did not allow for external GPU, so it's pretty limited. Not sure about M2, though.
      But here's the thing: if your pain point is in the EDITING process, rather than the final render process, AND you don't want to work with proxies, then Mac M1 is going to be hard to beat. PCs with NVIDIA RTX cards shine in the RENDERING speed and the fact that you can upgrade the desktop PC so that you have plenty of space to do proxies. That's how I have my PC set up - I upgraded the desktop with an extra 2TB SSD SATA "scratch" disk (which should be kept separately from the SSD that the application executable files are running from).. so that I have plenty of space to create full-res proxies.. Then when I render, I tell Resolve to use proxies - and that makes the rendering speed like 2-5x faster than M1. But if you're looking for just a laptop & don't have an external GPU, and your pain point is editing process and don't want to create proxy files, then I'm afraid that you might have to jump into the dark side of M1.

    • @jeremyevantaylor1724
      @jeremyevantaylor1724 2 роки тому

      @@danieldykim Wow, thank you for your prompt and thorough reply! Now that I think about it, I'm not 100% against proxies. I was hoping I could avoid them because I don't plan on ever going past 4k Braw in an HD timeline and I know a lot of people are messing with 6k and 8k footage nowadays. The laptop I'm looking at is an Alienware that has an i9/12,900hk/14 core/20 thread/5.0 ghz processor, Rtx 3080ti 16gb video card, with 64gb of ram and a 4tb m.2 raid (I know that's not ideal, but it's the only option they have for decent hard drive space). On paper. these specs exceed DaVinci and Premiere'd specs on their sites for 4k video editing. It is about $1,000 less than an M1 Macbook Pro with comparable specs. What are your thoughts on that setup?

    • @danieldykim
      @danieldykim 2 роки тому +1

      @@jeremyevantaylor1724 That is a very nice laptop that you are looking at! I think that would actually be comparable to the M1 macbook pro in terms of performance. I saw this video here: ua-cam.com/video/x0rcwATlSGg/v-deo.html, which shows that M1 Max (is that the M1 chip you're looking at?) beats an RTX 3080Ti laptop on most rendering configurations. (except for some codec that M1 is not optimized for).
      You can take a look at that video and see if that difference is worth the $1000 price difference. Good luck Jeremy.

    • @jeremyevantaylor1724
      @jeremyevantaylor1724 2 роки тому

      @@danieldykim I'll check it out. Thank you very much!

  • @TheTornado4000
    @TheTornado4000 3 роки тому

    Good work Ma man. Keep up the good work.

  • @ChristianWagner888
    @ChristianWagner888 3 роки тому +16

    Wow, the M1 Max did a lot better in Premiere Pro than I expected. This is much faster than a similar comparison I have watched with the M1 Pro. - Thanks for creating one of the first videos on UA-cam with real world cross platform benchmarks on the M1 Max.
    Could you please check GPU utilization during export especially on Windows? Possibly also double check that all hardware/GPU acceleration features of Premiere Pro are turned on?

  • @MishalMr97
    @MishalMr97 3 роки тому +3

    Definitely need a comparison to your main editing station!!

    • @jon_almas
      @jon_almas  3 роки тому +1

      Working on that today! I will be pretty shocked if it’s close and also kind of mad because I just spent a ton of money upgrading the desktop lol

    • @mildpandemic3944
      @mildpandemic3944 3 роки тому

      @@jon_almas Narrator: "He was, in fact, shocked". Good vids!

  • @MichaelScrip
    @MichaelScrip 3 роки тому +10

    As another comment mentioned... is the Windows laptop using GPU hardware acceleration? Premiere should take advantage of the RTX 3080 card inside the laptop. On my Windows desktop with RTX 2070 I definitely notice a difference in exporting with CUDA on and CUDA off.

    • @Vidyograf
      @Vidyograf 3 роки тому

      Following tihs one! I hope he answers

    • @jon_almas
      @jon_almas  3 роки тому

      Yes the laptop was set to hardware acceleration

  • @SimplestUsername
    @SimplestUsername 2 роки тому

    I wish you went back and reshot the Macbook's playback quality. I was really wanted to see how well the play back performed with such a intricate timeline.

  • @matiETN
    @matiETN 3 роки тому

    welcome to the new king!

  • @pixelcube73
    @pixelcube73 3 роки тому

    thank you for this very interesting tests!

  • @TheRealNewBlackMusic
    @TheRealNewBlackMusic 2 роки тому

    Very well done video can you tell us which laptop had the most screen image clarity and can you please do a video on how to save footage that is extremely underexposed what tools would you use and how do you get the footage to be usable thanks

  • @tifose30
    @tifose30 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this video. Just what I wanted to see. So the M1 is better in editing!

  • @JoATTech
    @JoATTech Рік тому

    What was the storage location for source clips and where it was rendered too?
    I wonder if it's pure computing power or SSD in Windows laptop is much slower. Would be nice to show utilization for both computers to see if there is any power still left or they are going full blast.
    But generally very useful information. I do not care much about benchmarks too. I want real performance in Davinci.

  • @amanray
    @amanray 2 роки тому

    Love the dual screen on the pc

  • @Vov4ik123
    @Vov4ik123 3 роки тому +1

    yes! Waiting new video!

  • @sparkplug964
    @sparkplug964 3 роки тому

    Would also like to see Final Cut Pro results with this new Mac?

  • @moaz5652
    @moaz5652 3 роки тому +2

    What was the battery on both of the machines at the end?

  • @nyambe
    @nyambe 3 роки тому

    Its a great video! I think its important to see real workflows! Do you do any After Effects o Fusion Rendering?

  • @rubenvaneupen7327
    @rubenvaneupen7327 2 роки тому

    What about pc desktop vs. M1 Max/Pro?

  • @iroggi
    @iroggi 3 роки тому +2

    Damn.. just recently upgraded to 5900x and was looking to get an RTX... now I'm thinking to sell this PC and fully specced 16" Intel MacBook Pro in exchange for a new M1..

  • @gurugamer8632
    @gurugamer8632 2 роки тому

    How does the ram on older MacBook 2019 compare with ram on current 2021 compare? If we come like to like i.e. 32GB vs 32GB unified memory?

  • @williamburkholder769
    @williamburkholder769 3 роки тому

    Good job! The result is not surprising to those of us who have M1 Macs and have been following the development of these chips. Apple Silicon IS the real deal. It shows what you can do as a company when you control the FULL stack of hardware, operating systems, development environments, and in some cases, software (Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro, for examples). Intel, AMD, and Microsoft have a lot of work to do. This new wave of tech can only be good for the rest of us.

    • @Teluric2
      @Teluric2 3 роки тому

      Not intel, despite using less transistors alder lake beats M1 max.
      The Argument of controling the stack is BS

    • @theotherphil
      @theotherphil 3 роки тому +1

      @@Teluric2 Big deal….a 240W desktop processor beats a laptop by 5% in performance. That’s not that impressive when the M1 MAX CPU draws only 40w. Alder Lake is not going to do much in a laptop format that can’t supply 240W. How about apples to apples comparisons instead of insane “this desktop/ server chip can beat a laptop chip”.

  • @TheToneWork
    @TheToneWork 3 роки тому +4

    Not really shocking. Adobe hasn't really optomized their software. If you're shooting BRAW, there really is very little benefit to using Adobe apart from "that's what I'm used to."

  • @DCLDuo
    @DCLDuo 3 роки тому

    Curious about your feedback on battery life for video editing? Got a 14 in. as a way to edit portably. My fully spec'd Dell XP17 is awful for battery life. Hoping for something better from the Mac so I can maybe do some editing when traveling.

  • @husariaproductions4240
    @husariaproductions4240 3 роки тому

    No nonsense tests love it! Pretty much in the same boat in terms of work load camera codec etc and nle. About to get the 14 in enough realestate for you ?

    • @jon_almas
      @jon_almas  3 роки тому

      I prefer the 16 inch as far as workspace but I see a lot of people enjoying the 14 too

  • @jadenamber8378
    @jadenamber8378 3 роки тому +3

    Would be interesting to do this unplugged. If you had to do this in the field on battery, how much does it tax the ASUS vs. the Mac (does performance go down on battery for either) and what about fan noise? Also, how do the screens compare?

    • @trevorbirch1291
      @trevorbirch1291 3 роки тому +4

      macbook doesn't drop performance on battery , windows laptops drop about 70 percent performance, mac has no fan noise even in turbo mode, asus buzzes like a mini beehive, screens apple is the best.

    • @Shadowed007
      @Shadowed007 3 роки тому

      Apple runs on ARM based custom processor it delivers 100% performance when plugged in or out.
      That's the beauty of ARM.
      X86 Meanwhile you can expect atleast 50% drop in performance when plugged out.
      Check other videos as well Apple gives you the same performance on battery and on charge, meanwhile on x86 nope!! Always plugged in.

    • @jon_almas
      @jon_almas  3 роки тому +3

      Just from using the pc in the past it makes it almost unusable if your doing heavy editing. I edited this vlog on the MacBook on battery and it was flawless

    • @theholt2ic219
      @theholt2ic219 3 роки тому

      A windows labtop cannot be unplugged because it will drop performance significantly. The Macbook is going 100% the entire time unplugged or plugged in.

    • @Shadowed007
      @Shadowed007 3 роки тому

      @@theholt2ic219 Yup!!! The Power of custom ARM 👊

  • @somratdutta
    @somratdutta 3 роки тому

    Hello sir, can you run PugetBench AfterEffects benchmarks.

  • @russjam
    @russjam 3 роки тому

    Nice! I'm glad you did this comparison. I've always admired the duos by Asus. Both the zephyrus and zen models. I've been waiting almost a year for its availability to buy one, but then I heard of the new Macs.
    That double screen had me, but the overall experience of the Mac with better performance, battery life etc seems to be better.
    The question now for me, an aspiring video editor who lived in the world of Windows, is if I'm gonna switch. No bootcamp. Sigh.
    Anyway, thanks much for this.

    • @uribak9144
      @uribak9144 3 роки тому

      Beware the M1 has lots of other compatibility issues especially for third party plugins, do not get excited about UA-camrs who are biased in favor of Apple, this guy does not use the RTX card encoding capability at all in exporting. Keep in mind that Intel is already launching Alder Lake processors faster than anything Apple has to offer for less money.

  • @JoTokutora
    @JoTokutora 3 роки тому

    What whattage exactly is the duo. Because those aren't as fast as the GE76 and Alienware

  • @tonyburzio4107
    @tonyburzio4107 3 роки тому +1

    You need 17.4 explicitly for the Mac. Which 17 do you have?

    • @jon_almas
      @jon_almas  3 роки тому

      It was 17.4 on the mac

  • @scriptedpixelsltd
    @scriptedpixelsltd 3 роки тому

    Have you tried it with both unplugged?

  • @hassanahmed1755
    @hassanahmed1755 Рік тому

    How come you didn't show how Mac deals with playback and editing?!

  • @ayamdigoreng9072
    @ayamdigoreng9072 3 роки тому

    i feels you broo

  • @GurmeetSingh-fr8uo
    @GurmeetSingh-fr8uo 3 роки тому

    Hi Jon, what’s the difference between Davinci Resolve 17 free version and paid studio version?

    • @danieldykim
      @danieldykim 2 роки тому

      The biggest difference (as far as this side-by-side comparison is concerned) is that the paid studio version takes advantage of the GPU hardware encoding when doing H.264 or H.265. The free version does not take advantage of the GPU when exporting. I just asked Jon the question (4/7/22) what he used when doing this side-by-side comparison. If he's using the free version, then the nice GPU that he has on his windows machine doesn't really matter. It's not using it.

  • @ccheritage1235
    @ccheritage1235 3 роки тому +1

    I guess Apple had many good reasons to build their own chips and king of performance was part of it. Not just battery life. Reminds me of the PowerPC days but this is like... way faster then the PC using Premier (considered the worst for speed), not just perfectly tuned and optimized apps only. I really thought that PC laptop would take it. I'm amazed. And I'm a Mac user!

    • @Teluric2
      @Teluric2 3 роки тому

      Wasnt faster than PC, Apple cheated in that test, they were caught

    • @ccheritage1235
      @ccheritage1235 3 роки тому

      @@Teluric2 Cheating in "that" test? Which test? I don't get what you are talking about. I didn't see any cheating in the above video and both Premier and Resolve are not owned by Apple, so I don't understand how Apple is cheating. Please explain.

    • @danieldykim
      @danieldykim 2 роки тому

      @@ccheritage1235 , I just asked Jon a pretty crucial question about this side-by-side comparison.. which would amount to unintentionally stacking the test in one direction. Or maybe it was a fair test. Hope he answers back..

  • @uribak9144
    @uribak9144 3 роки тому +3

    Your premier results on the Asus only prove that you are not using the encoding capability of the RTX card, in any case it does not make sense that you have an RTX 3080 and these are the results.

    • @Vidyograf
      @Vidyograf 3 роки тому

      Following! I hope he answers this one

  • @JonAnderhub
    @JonAnderhub 3 роки тому

    So what was the purchase price of each computer?

  • @atf56
    @atf56 3 роки тому +2

    Good testing..Try some 3d tests

  • @instinct-8991
    @instinct-8991 3 роки тому +1

    Nice 👍

  • @chanmaung
    @chanmaung 3 роки тому

    Yes I wanna see that Ryzen comparison bro.

  • @fwiltrak
    @fwiltrak 3 роки тому +1

    Make sure you are using Resolve 17.4 or greater and select Nvidia under encoder option in Export Video otherwise it does not use GPU just CPU.

    • @Vidyograf
      @Vidyograf 3 роки тому

      Curious if he used GPU rendering..

    • @danieldykim
      @danieldykim 2 роки тому +1

      @@Vidyograf Yeah, I am wondering if he did that - b/c a super windows laptop with RTX GPU won't matter much if he's not using "native" encoder rather than "NVIDIA" encoder.

  • @marioslrzn
    @marioslrzn 3 роки тому +1

    what's crazy is that a laptop is beating the top of the line desktop PC, crazy world we live in, that's what nvidia and intel get for releasing weak upgrades every year.

  • @ShoeysAdventures
    @ShoeysAdventures 3 роки тому

    I have to wait 4 weeks for mine, does it make any difference fcpx vs prem pro?

    • @jon_almas
      @jon_almas  3 роки тому

      I haven’t tested these myself but Scott McKenna posted a video yesterday I think where premier pro was FASTER exporting than fcpx

  • @413RC
    @413RC 3 роки тому +1

    Is this Peter's cousin?

    • @413RC
      @413RC 3 роки тому +2

      I didn't realize how slow my 2015 MacBook pro was until watching this video!

  • @maxmaxmaxgoon5602
    @maxmaxmaxgoon5602 3 роки тому

    U lost me...your suppose to test 8k stress test

  • @darviniusb
    @darviniusb 3 роки тому

    Resolve is on linux to way faster then windows.

  • @louddesignstudios
    @louddesignstudios 2 роки тому

    When you have time let someone disable windows defender truns off auto updates and u install all microsoft shit and let s test it again to.see how.much improvements we can get. I ll be happy to do it remotely if you want.

  • @JudgeFredd
    @JudgeFredd 3 роки тому

    M1 will change everything

  • @zcai2672
    @zcai2672 3 роки тому

    More like 40% quicker..

  • @DinethDharmasena
    @DinethDharmasena 3 роки тому +1

    if your using that windows laptop for editing just don't do it , it just disappointing, throw it into a garbage, complete waste of money , use it for gaming or something

  • @ghaznaviprince9210
    @ghaznaviprince9210 3 роки тому

    Until he said he does weeding videos I was like wth you don't even have the means to share your videos 160 subs on UA-cam for who you editing

  • @TimothyGordon
    @TimothyGordon 3 роки тому

    R⛑⛑🧟🧟🤵🏽‍♀️🧮

  • @boryssluszniak
    @boryssluszniak 9 місяців тому

    This is not objective test, bro 😂