Diablo 4 and PoE - Which game is harder?
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Zizaran expands on the question plaguing everyone's mind: is Diablo 4 gameplay more difficult than Path of Exile?
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Keep in mind the video is talking about GAMEPLAY and gameplay only.
We all know PoE has over a decade of content and mechanics that can be huge entry barriers.
How long did it take u to reach your first level 100 in PoE? Just curious
@@klaspetri5453 Just to be a devil's advocate - lvl 100 in PoE was balanced to be practically unachievable for a 'normal' player. In D4 it is just a grindy step in your natural character progression
I have 10k hours in poe... i still struggle getting to ubers..
@@whatthecluck6874 almost 2k hours and still no ubers, i feel you
@@jessejames1590 im almost 2k hours as well but at one point i just gave up and spent currency to get someone to do it for me if i just want the achievements...maybe one day i'll do it myself
Poe is hard because the developers want it to be hard. Diablo 4 is hard because the developers don't know what they are doing.
I didn't know this even needed a discussion lmao.
Lmfao ikr
Ye weird
And that's why you're not a content creator pmsl xd
It doesnt , but its a good clickbait
views + clickbait
i have NOT played D4, but worth mentioning PoEs nasty difficulty spikes in form of "lucky combo" modifiers on rare monsters. 99% of game can be ok, but then you get mauled by Rhoa with yellow name that was just lucky to hit those 3 synergistic modifiers that turn it into pinnacle boss contender.
Or when you forget to read that map has reflect damage and you are instantly dead before you even start playing
Is this a talking point?
Feels weird that anyone would ask about the difficulty in terms of gameplay, arpgs are so little about the difficulty in terms of gameplay and so much more on what else they offer.
I guess it is when you play hardcore.
@@In_Space There are so few people that play HC and those are already very sophisticated into the arpg genre that a general video like this would bring little to information that they already don't grasp themself.
@@In_Space I played POE hard core went till act 1 mudflats and I said: hell no.
I know that is a very hard place to be (3rd area)
I went in world tier 2 into Diablo 4 and died at the world boss as I was just standing in the aoe-s.
Yes I know who am I to judge, but neither should Ziz. He has Poe in his blood
D4 has been incredibly boring for me so far. I struggled to maintain interest in the game just to get past the content that was available during the betas. Once I got past that content I ran smack into more of the same. Unfortunately, this type of ARPG has little to no replay value for me. Not sure if I will even play into the end game before going back to POE to prepare for the next league start.
Ok thanks for letting me know!
What is it that you find interesting in PoE that is not available in D4? Also your comment makes it seem like you didn't even complete the D4 story is that true?
@@gaspara9817 I have not completed the story yet, because the game pace is so slow. There is so much empty space between events and I just get bored. That said the game narrative is a good one and I have enjoyed it so far. Also, gameplay trumps story for me every time. The main difference I see between the two games is diversity. D4 has 5 characters with maybe one or two viable gameplay options. POE has dozens of different skills that can be used with dozens of different character ascendancies. And that is only the beginning of the diversity within POE. D4 had just been boring. I was so excited for D4 after playing the beta’s that I skipped the whole early access weekend, that I paid for and scheduled time of work, so that I could run blight maps. I am not trying to convince anyone that my individual experience is indicative of how they will experience the game. Go play it and find out how you feel about it for yourself. Shit, I even spent money in the D4 shop already cause I thought the skins looked cool.
@@gaspara9817 Don't bother, POE players are so hard convinced that POE is the only game that is how a actual ARPG game should be.
Always claim the diversity of the game just by playing the same specs and same strats over and over again every season for almost 10 years now. League start ---> 150k players, mid League ---> 40k players. That is how the base players look in this game, that is what you dealing with here. They practically up Chris Wilsons ass buying his MTX every season.
@@Icezapp1 And i took it personally
I view PoE as most of the decision making is done in the hideout rather than the map itself. PoE is all about planning out your character and figuring out a long term (or not if you choose) strategy for solving certain issues. D4 seems much more focused on moment to moment combat.
@bornunicorn2637 whoa! this must be Ben's alt account
I despise on-death effects. It was a big source of annoyance in D3 for me, and I dislike that Blizzard still kept it around so much in D4. I hope they tone is down a bit and instead introduce some more interesting enemy effects.
I can play D4 with my brain off. PoE takes incredible understanding of items and gameplay to truly get to and beat the end game.
Well, I am a casual softcore player but for me, this does not seem close, at least not yet. There is content I can't do in PoE with over 100 hours in a league because I'm not good enough. So far that doesn't seem to be the case in D4. Sure, there are dangerous things, but I gauge it more by what's achievable by the average player, not how risky HC is. Different ways to look at it.
I'm not a pro myself as well but it helped me a lot to switch the poe-build (into Zombies) to become better and to understand mechanics. Also don't look for the ultmate builds... many starter builds take you far into endgame content without going into deep crafting mechanics. Maybe this can help you as well :) Cheers
POE: 1200 hours of intense fun still haven't done all content, Diablo 4: after 50 hours it's all the same to the point I don't want to play it anymore
That's a real question? :D
I find PoE to be harder because for me it had a lot of more instant deaths. Even the story campaign feature bosses that have attacks that deal so much damage it nearly instant kills you. Piety when you fight her the third time I believe and she has this beam attack. That does a ton of damage.
Brinelord also has annoyingly powerful attacks. The last boss in the story campaign is a boss I've never been able to tank damage on. Just got to the point where, well I'm just gonna throw myself at it until it dies.
Later on, on the maps themselves you will at some point find an enemy with a certain combo of perks that will probably generate a few billions worth of damage and he just needs to smack you once.
Or those monsters that explode into small spikes in a star pattern. Killing too many of those at once = Dead.
So in Diablo 4 up to level 62 on Tier 3. I've found it be to very fair.
Plague elites are though pretty powerful.
Gotta say that 90 % of my deaths in Diablo has been because i was looking at my map or at my second monitor for things like altars of lilith for like 20 seconds and a pack of mobs spawned on top of my head and killed me somewhere I thought i was safe XD
So yeah I agree 100% with Zizaran when he says that you gotta be focused all the time to a point its oppressive.
But seriously if you play softcore in D4 i got a feeling that no matter how clueless you are you can still get very very far into the game ...
As usual with these types of videos, he didn't really answer the question. So allow me...
Assuming you have equal hours played with both games, PoE is more difficult, and its not even close.
Yes there are ground and on death affects you need to watch for, but PoE has plenty of those too. You're also slower in D4 as ziz mentioned, however the counter there is that PoE is just a faster game that necessitates the need for extra movement speed.
But aside from strictly gameplay reasons, the amount of knowledge you need for PoE is vastly more than D4. Any new player would have a solid understanding of D4 as a whole after their first day or 2 playing. This, of course, is a huge positive when it comes to mass appeal. But since we're strictly speaking about difficulty, this makes D4 far easier.
I have 750 hours in PoE, and less than 40 in D4. Even considering that, I would be WAY more comfortable jumping into hardcore D4 than PoE.
Its not even close.
The resource management(energy) in D4 really sucks the fun out of the game for me.
Quit copying builds and make one that focuses on resource management then
never had such issue and have 3 char at lvl50+, I guess you play the game wrongly
@@dantelabella9753 "Quit copying the only viable builds, cripple your character to circumvent Blizz awful gameplay loop" Aight dude. Great solution. I'll do it. *Now I do much less damage, everything takes way longer to kill... but at least I'm not running out of energy...* yay?
reroll sorc lmao
tbh i played arc lash sorc, doesnt use mana, resource management fucking sucks in an arpg. need to get good gear to trivilise it and have the gameplay actually be fun
I've been playing POE for at least 6 seasons, off and on, and I still haven't completed one major boss in the Atlas. Poe is so next level difficult if you are casual or a tier above
Same bro. I played more than 10 leagues and this one the first time I killed them all with Pathfinder
I think gameplay wise Diablo is of course slower but also easier despite the on-death effects and ground effects, you have much less time to react to them in PoE and a harder time seeing the ground effects through clutter. I will say though that the level grind on Diablo seems to be much longer for me, but probably because I'm just so used PoE's levelling at this point.
Visual clutter is bad in D4 too... If you go into a pack of mobs, pop a skill and there are like 50 different texts constantly flashing on screen. Vulnerable, Frozen, dmg number, crit number etc... Good luck seeing ground effect in D4 with that shit. That's why in almost every end game build, you need some way to generate Unstoppable, because mobs will chain CC you to death and you can't see the ground for shit with all the text and dmg numbers on screen.
@Alien Just said PoE has more ground clutter and also more deadly ground effects not that Diablo's isnt a problem too. And just turn off damage numbers for less clutter??
I originally scoffed at the title, until I did some ancestral sigils. Can't remember the last time I couldn't complete a map in PoE, and sigils have insane modifiers and one unlucky elite can ruin your run
I don't like when builds feel homogenized and sets contribute to that a lot. The game is pretty bare bones right now but its a great template if they go in the right direction. More butcher-style random encounters would be nice. I would also like to see specific chase items on the random encounters rather then everything being generic and boring.
It's like you said. The game is barely in its infancy, give it a couple years.
Only thing is PoE2 is in the horizon as well. If Blizzard doesn't innovate, Diablo 4 is gonna be left in the dust.
What the hell happened at 1:25? Looks like something rag-dolled down the hill, and then exploded.
Only happens if you didnt visit the shop! ^^
*surprise mechanics*
that was the bugged cloth physics playing tricks on your eyes
i had the same funky cloth physics in my game as well
This video was made to bait comments, good job 🤣
Still surprised you didn't mention cheat death tho, Ben was able to prog the hardest boss with basically no chance of dying at any point.
Ive been just recording them off the cuff with less scripting sometimes i forget things 😢
@@Zizaran I see, just gonna say as someone who doesn't play D4, nor consumes much of its content, cheat death always seemed like the biggest difference in gameplay to me and I hoped to learn how much it actually impacts the overall experience from a HC veteran like you.
yo at 1:28 that clothe or w.e it is, is going crazy
i dont mind on death effects as long as i dont lose sight of them mixed in with my own skills
There is an option in the settings menu to highlight your character when obstructed. Makes it easier to spot your character during all the on screen chaos, which I personally enjoy by the way... The more on screen chaos the better !!
Same! I hope poe2 incorporates that
I much prefer the "difficulty" of Diablo 4. The way you are kind of always taking small hits of some sort makes it easier to "feel out" the damage of the monsters. And as annoying as on-death effects can be, when you know to look out for them, you can intentionally avoid them most of the time unless you get CC'd. In PoE 99% of my HC deaths are just me not taking any damage for an obscenely long amount of time and then I suddenly just get 1 shot. Another thing I think makes a big difference is the monsters movement speed compared to your own. In PoE with all of the onslaught, quicksilver flasks, etc you can basically run circles around the mobs aside from the super juiced up rares. It's kind of nice feeling the pressure applied by even the white mobs constantly trying to stay on top of you. Please note that I have only been playing Sorc with minimal movespeed, so it might be a different experience on a juiced up Barb with all his shouts and stuff.
Edit: One thing I'll say about PoE is that the majority of the difficulty just comes from a lack of knowledge. So it's nice to feel like I can outplay stuff without needing to read a wiki or watch a video. Boss fights feel rewarding when I can attempt them on Hardcore and figure out the mechanics on my own (but I think Boss damage needs to be seriously buffed)
runewords and sets are confirmed coming to d4? POG never heard of that, when did they confirm that??? POG
The more interesting question is which game is smarter in its difficulty.
Generally I like it but I find the CC a bit overkill, when you hit say a triple elite pack and they all have the freeze affix and basically if you don't have an unstoppable you die. Infact a lot of the game feels like you just need to be unstoppable all the time, similar to PoE with elemental ailments the idea of "either be immune or die" just feels pointless.
i have played PoE for like 300 hours and D4 since release, and gotta sy D4 is walk in park i just face tank everything i am a solo player doing tier 30-35 dungeons as 79 arc lash sorc... .i might not kill things quickly i do 2-3 NM dungeons an hour, but i might die AT MOST 1 and thats my mistake.
PoE is brutal i tried many builds including sum 100 orb builds and can barely do much but take my time, as for bosses in D4 i just stand there and keep finger on mouse and he dies in PoE i wont even attempt reelevant end game bosses until i have levelled up for fear of losing XP as i will usually die
I even financially supported PoE back in the early betas. Unfortunately, I later realized that the system is pseudo-complex. The skill tree consists mostly of nodes for basic attributes. The ability to build skills through gems is a nice system, but it also lacks complexity. Skills primarily improve in simple aspects like range or projectile count, because the effects need to be more universally applicable.
In PoE, my regular goal was simply to create a combination of effects and then hack and slash through instances using 2-3 buttons.
In D4, many systems currently intertwine. Class + skill tree + item aspects + Paragon board + new effects.
The fact that you can rotate and choose the boards yourself adds a lot of depth. New techniques like "Health", "Tempering", "Overwhelm", etc., allow for a multitude of ideas. For example, as a necromancer, I can build myself in a way that when I consume corpses, I gain x% of my maximum life as tempering. Once I have more tempering than life, I become tempered and take 10% less damage. However, when a skill like Overwhelm (comparable to a critical hit) is triggered, the current health + tempering is multiplied by the Overwhelm multiplier and dealt as additional damage. The base chance for that is only 3%... but when I'm at full health (HP above 80%), skills can guarantee that trigger, and so on.
This means that effectively, I'm dealing damage with my health bar without using it as a resource. Additionally, there are things like critical hits, etc. Diablo 4 may seem fairly simple at first glance... but for those who want to, there is a lot of depth for min-maxing.
I saw a hardcore 100 level full resistance barbarian die in real time from a bomb exploding on the floor as soon as he entered the area through a portal on veteran difficulty to hunt for materials. There are many places where the system is not ready and is vulnerable.. It wasn't long before it was released, so it didn't feel like the internal system was working smoothly. What is resistance and what is the use of stamina or defense? A full-resistance barbarian killed by a floor bomb? LOL.
Resistance is currently useless. Kripp made a video about it.
D4 is no brain friendly that's why most of Diablo players struggle on PoE and stop at lvl 10 banged by Rhoas and Brutus 😂
Nightmare sigils seem to have taken some mechanics straight from WoW.
The shades following you are literally just the "Spiteful" affix from Mythic +.
By the numbers of currencies both games we already know the answers that which one is more difficult
25k hours in poe.... 2.85 YEARS in poe... And I thought I was a gamer
Mechanically both games are pretty easy. PoE needs more build planning and knowledge of how items work.
Honestly I think the scaling in D4 makes the game easier to an extent because you can level all the way to 100 playing only the easy content since the open world monsters scale up with you. If the alternative was T4 monsters were always level 75 in open world then you would really need to move to higher level nightmare dungeons in the 80s making the game harder.
D4 endgame is a lot harder than PoE. tier 80's u get pretty much one shotted with insane gear.
@@ivancouto1028 absolutely delusional as hell. Lol sounds like pure cope.
The problem with scaling is that at this point, if you were under lvl 95, it's literally more rewarding to do normal dungeons rather than sigils, which makes no sense. If you increase the difficulty of the content you make, the natural thing would be that the reward count to increase too. It's a very bad game development. The game shouldn't make you do the easy content just because it has the same result as the hard content, what's the fcking point of the hard content then!?
Causal player here, played poe for like 5 seasons, havent killed any uber boss, get oneshot by random mobs.
POE fucking hard when you have to build suppression/evasion/leech/armor/effective life, at least for a causal player
Just try any cheapest build and you kill anyone.. almost 😂
25k hours. How many fucking years is that omg
Ziz tempting fate with the reflect comment
Don't like diablo 4 showing damage indicators, since it doesn't let you think more creatively with your build as you progress. So, for me at Softcore and Ruthless was the hardest in PoE.
Tough call both are difficult in different ways. I made it to 90 in the last gauntlet and don't know if I could do that in d4 hc but the uber bosses in poe are more difficult than anything in d4 right now. Both are great games imo.
Uber Lilith is extremely difficult, only people that have beat her is with a now patched barbarian build but good luck beating her now
What are the chances a 1st time player hits lvl 100 on HC in PoE? Also, you have layers and layers of defenses in PoE which are absolutely mandatory for HC. You need so much more knowledge in PoE. I didn't play SSF HC until after I had over 2500 hours in the game. All you have in Diablo is damage reduction with some defensive legendaries. PoE is ele res, spell suppress, evasion, armor, energy shield, chance to block spell, chance to block attack, etc.
Poe is harder but not in combat difficulty but in understanding all the bullshit that's going on lol
D4 you just play. Like Skyrim. You won't lose unless you are just bad at gaming.
Are we comparing mapping difficulty or do we count in ubers.
Unclear
The devs were able to address all of the D3 problems while keeping several mechanics that hurt D3. I think we're safe from them just dropping in 1000% damage effects.
u mean mobile game 😂😂
funny how PoE is the "dark souls" of the 2 games, when D4 was designed to be more of an active dodge type gameplay. But it's so true. In PoE you can actually strafe attacks or spam rolls to avoid them. In D4 everything hits you anyway so it's a game of killing shit before it kills you, makes fighting packs of spreadout ranged enemies a complete nightmare. Every death I've had is due to unavoidable ranged attacks from 2 or more mobs, whereas in PoE you run circles around mobs and they are generally more grouped together so you can reasonably dodge attacks.
Also the ondeath effects, maybe I am too used to PoE and it's excessive ondeath bullshit but D4 felt like it took it to another level. Like you have some dungeons where some fucking orb follows you around and explodes every 5 seconds, where's the fun in that? It's not difficult it's just annoying.
Definitely enjoyed the change of pace but D4 really holds nothing against PoE for me personally, other than the story. PoE's story doesnt exist to me. atleast D4 has nice cinematics with a little cleavage from a hot demon mommy and that's enough to satisfy my brain
LOL
i was always interested in HC, but in PoE i am kind of too bad to stay alive past yellow maps and too lazy to get good.
in D4 i play HC and its a breeze. it depends on class ofc, but with Druid currently its really easy. you are tanky, do damage and it feels like almost nothing can kill you, unless you mess up hard, while in PoE you can feel unkillable for 90 levels and suddenly you are dead without any idea why.
PoE is knowledge and Skill based. it takes serious experience to play SFF HC, while in D4 i felt like i pretty much know everything i need to know after 2 days of playing. Builds are straighforward, mechanics are simple, Itemizing is super easy, because its just so obvious whats good and whats not and you find good gear without having to do anything special.
in PoE you have to know a lot about all the different League Mechanics and how to take advantage of them to get some proper gear. It might not seem much for Veterans, but for newbies beating Uber Pinnacle Bosses seems impossible.
in D4 anyone who has some experience with ARPGs in general can do all the content without issues.
So yea D4 is incredibly easy, PoE is incredibly hard. not mechanically, but in terms of knowledge required to do anything. Sure you can bypass a lot of it by just following guides, but i think you just wont make it far in the endgame without knowing whats dangerous and whats not.
In D4 i just dont really care much about what monsters i fight. i dont care much what form of devensive layers i have, because there is just one way to build anyways and the only thing that can kill me is some instakill nightmare dungeon stuff that i just have to avoid.
i Know this video is about gameplay, but even then i would argue PoE is harder, because monster actually kill you. in D4 i never feel like i have to actually evade much, or be on the move constantly, while in PoE i feel super stressed all the time, because i know if i stand still for a moment i might die.
i can see for a very squishy character, that D4 is harder, because you are getting hit no matter what, but its also very easy to not be squishy.
Me too, passing or going beyond yellow tier maps is difficult.
I did some research and reached endgame bosses ( pinnacle bosses )
Maybe it will for you too. learn what suitable for your build
and what was the answer? poe harder than diablo 4? vice versa?
In PoE you need a pHD to even remotely approach end game while following a build someone else made. In D4 I can just play the game which is something I don't think PoE will never give me a chance to do due to how most mechanics in it are just not intuitive what so ever. Not even allowed to reset your tree and having to re level an entirely new character being the most efficient way to come back from just experimenting as a new player is very disheartening.
I think most of POE can be made easy to the point where you can relax in your farming, which is great. I don't like the silly one shots.
I think D4 takes considerably more mental effort to play, but most of the content isn't particularly difficult either.
I think D2 is in some ways the hardest of these three games.
Surprised you jumped on the bandwagon Ziz you know POE is harder content, it’s aimed at HC players no mechanics in D4 compare. Yet D4 has way many more players and have brought players to ARPGS POE never could.
my only bug with the game atm is the ability look wayyyyy tooo boring rest is on point but damm they need to change that .. its 2023 and some skill feels like its early 2000 graphics wise they are okay but theres no omph to it
1:29 sorry ziz but that pretty much ends the discussion. I doubt anyone in the whole world hit level 100 on their first character in poe HC, poe is much more complex and you have to learn the game to survive.
PoE is not fun to me
I am looking for a somewhat brain dead farming experience. With a podcast or something beside the game. I don't want on death effects
Now they nerfed dungeons so what are we supposed to do? Helltide and Legion events all day long? 😂
Bro come on lol, D4 literally has a potion that makes your character skip a death if they die.
4000+ hours into POE and never hit 100 and never did all Ûbers . I highly doubt i get 4000 hours in D4 to make a comparison, but i would say POE wins the toughness prize.
Enemies reflect X% physical or elemental damage >>>>> every enemy in these games
I've never played PoE. What I want to know is if it's more, or at least as fun as Diablo 4.
Wraith's are what scary me the most during their wined up. Normally, it is not an issue, however when you have poison traps on the ground it can be a bit hard to see. I would not even want to think about Necro's Dot pools.
For me u just sayd it in the first minute.
PoE will always be harder then Diablo 4, because of the skill u need to clear something.
I will call it, as soon as the next patches comes out and the "endgame" in D4 will come, the true winner shows to everyone.
25 k hours ? dude wtf i'm calling a doctor
Obviously PoE. Next video please.
Been on that ff14 aswell going by your steam profile? O:
to all the blizzard fanboys crying in every single video cause Ziz gives objective critique...please stop crying. why yall comparing d4 with poe1 at release ? (10 years apart lol) shows how low blizzard fanboy expectation ceiling is. yall would literally settle for anything cuz it's blizzard, it's pathetic. the word "skeleton" alone, in 2023, with the vast amount of examples blizzard could have taken, from other successful ARPGs to copy from, is absolutely laughable. all the games that came and this is what they pulled off ? a story and nice graphics ? dont you feel stupid defending this ?....now lets compare poe2 with d4 though, blizzards actual competition for d4...blizz just doesnt hold a candle to poe2. key difference ? a passionate team called GGG on one hand and a money hungrey billion dollar company that killed every single successful title they had by greed. go play anything and compare it to your "skeleton" and look whats actually been possible FOR YEARS now while blizz was sleeping after implementring a necro class like 7 years ago lol.
Is this really even a topic worth talking about? 😅
The only difficult system in D4 is that damn scaling. Thats the most stupid thing ever invented. The only game where one can go "Dont level me up, pls, its too early, dont level me up".........
So Poe is a hard game cuz it has depth and much to learn and D4 is hard because it has things that one shot you when you are not carefull?
Personally feel like PoE is more difficult in this moment because content in D4 is rather repetitive.
difficult no, stupid no win situations YES. To your point the lets make the dungeon hard isn't monster's or monster density, or some complex fight to learn. It's hey this floating thing is going to randomly shoot lighting for 50% of your life unless you can run back to the bubble it makes which you can't cause you have no movement ability besides a bunny hop every 5 seconds. So i say D4 is more difficult but for all of the absolutely wrong reasons. They take any skill chance away from the difficulty and make it purely just "hope you have grinded enough to withstand that hit you have zero option to avoid. Then add on the you know 4 possible builds in the game... and it's just a chore of massive grind.... Totally seeing them "solving" this with a pay to win battlepass setup in about 3 seasons.
D4 ended up too slow for me, so I finished acts and I actually don't want to play it anymore...
I love how same people that say these two games are different and cant be compared still compare them, actually a joke.
You get perma banned is this guys chat for even saying diablo4 is boring . I swear some people have the most fragile ego's these days
Thia cant be an actual comparison. Poe is exponentially more difficult.
No intro, must be serious now...
I know every friend that jumped on diablo 4 as they did with the 3 think the game ia over when they beat the final boss 😂 like when the destiny campaing is over that was the game, which is 2% of the actual game
I think both of them are ez. Only problem with poe is u don't even know what hits u or how did u die Unless u r recording it. And 90% of the time is just random one shot.
Diablo 4 hands down. This isn't a discussion.
Logout is not a thing in diablo 4, you do that you die 100% so that contributes a lot to difficulty I would say. In PoE you're out with 1 simple button press with a logout macro.
Bullshit. In d4 you have instant scroll to town which is like logout and also cheat death potion
can you tell me something HOW COME EVERYONE THATR IS A UA-camR IN THIS GAME DONT SPEAK ABOUT THE PROBLEMS THAT YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH EVEN THOU YOU ARE level 46 you go to some dungeons and eeven thou you have good gear you cant kill some Ghouls because they are not dying HOW COME? how come you guys come to diablo IV to levels 80 or 90?? also the skills dont work if you have monsters to close to you i feel fruzstrated and also you must think there a re a lot of people that cannot play THE WHOLE DAY that for mnany is impossible! I would appreciate it if some one or you replys to my questions! thanks!
Diablo 4 is only hard bc its so clunky to play. 90% of my diablo 4 deaths is bc I was looking at my mana or cooldowns.
Im happy to see my twitch feed already reverting from a wall of d4 streams. The game play loop is horribly boring to watch.
I understand that diablo 4 came out now and for the same and many other reasons it is inferior to poe but bro is the title of the video a joke? haha not even after 2 years could be comparable games jaja
"At least Diablo 4 doesn't have reflect"
Yet 😆
Is this even an question?
Is this a clickbait?
All I can say is I achieved lvl 100 in diablo and not poe
Are you seriously comparing a game for toddlers with POE?
URAGIRIMONOOO!!!
diablo 4 is the harder game, its boring asf so the hard part is forcing myself to play it, actually gone back to wolcen because necro felt so trash in d4
based wolcel. I just DL'd the game last night, too.
@@ambridge6645 dead game that will probably get more updates then d4 ever will, sniff the blizzard copium more
Players who played both know very well which one is harder but You are sponsored by Activision in fact and become unreliable.
Diablo is for people who don't want to think, and only kill some monsters! PoE is much much better... In all aspects!!!
Interesting that these games people try to compare! Diablo is mcdonalds! With the merchandising, hyping and that stuff! Is that really good? No, only expensive!!! But every person is swearing on the name!!! PoE is a good steakhouse! Don't need merchandising, hyping and this stuff, and the meal is good and healthy!!!
And a good steakhouse is much better than Macdonalds, no f.... Matter how many people running to this sh....!!!!
This isnt even an issue...its obvious.
For me,i think diablo 4 is more straight forward in terms of gameplay
I disagree as complicated as Poe is I can explain how all game mechanics interact and scale. In Diablo I nothing in the tooltips makes sense
@@LEDit0ut i talk about diablo 4 especially ,diablo 3 was super easy to understand,dont know much about first 2 diablo
@@LEDit0ut yeah, and those tooltips really help in POE? 🤣