@@KCTURBOS No in and out movement independently of the bearings used? I bought a hybrid turbo and have in and out movement (still dont know how much) and he says with oil there will be no movement. I dont know he the seller is spitting bulshit or not... :(
@@Pedro_opcIt should never be any In-N-Out play on any turbo on a wet journal bearing turbo aka brass bearing turbo you have your side to side play but as a turbo runs oil fills that gap if you have a ball bearing turbo you shouldn't have any play because the ball bearings should not have side to side nor in or out play
Same I just got a 2nd gen swap on my 6.7 and me and my brother checked the shaft play and I was like shit that's not good then I came across this video
If there's any side to side play that means the housing or the fitting is very lose and it may need extra lubricant to help take out the side to side play ......if you don't use the correct amount of lubricant you may throw a rod.....😅😂
Thanks for this! Just had my turbo off to do some other work and noticed a similar amount of play. Glad to see that it's normal! I was expecting an expensive bill ahead!
thank you for this quick video, my tdi turbo has up and down play but still has good power when driving. i was worried sick that the turbo might be bad but after seeing this gives relief.
I have a turbo on a Cat 3176B, and I was just checking the shaft play. I get a bit of blue smoke, seemingly from the turbo, my buddy says they do that when they've sat for a long time, this one was a fire truck put on less than 500 miles a year for 20 years, then sat for 3 years before I got it. Was thinking of rebuilding it myself this winter, just trying to figure out how much of an emergency it is. Doesn't seem like an emergency.
No in and out movement independently of the bearings used? I bought a hybrid turbo and have in and out movement (still dont know how much) and the seller says with oil there will be no movement. I dont know he the seller is spitting bulshit or not... :(
Would it be sane to rebuild a turbo after 7 years of ownership? Oils and filters are changed regularly. It is on a 2.5l diesel and it is an aftermarket kit. The land rover is used for towing up hill but it is hardly driven fast and hard because the roads are not decent. It is blowing some oil through the compressor side and It is not screaming that much at the moment.
The main thing you want to look at, is if the center section is in good shape. As long ass it is, you are good to go on a rebuild! Feel free to call or email us if you have any other questions.
the blades look ok (not rubbing against body) and it looks like it has only up and down movement (1mm or so when lifted by finger from the shaft) but no back and forth play (when pulled) @@KCTURBOS
@@josephsaid756 It sounds like you are good to go on a rebuild then. Assuming the "back and forth" play you are referring to is the same as the "in and out" mentioned in the video? Also, is the turbo a journal bearing or ball bearing? (Ball bearing turbos are not rebuildable)
Something just does not feel right about that.. yea i know oil pressure.. but oil not being squished out under load seems very unlikely. Especially in diesels that are pushing 20psi at stock level
my vf52 has a little side to side play like that. i thought it was toast. which wouldn't make sense because the oil gets changed every 3k or 3 months and it hardly sees boost.
There is not a way to tighten it unfortunately. Once this happens, the damage has been done and can only get worse. You would need to replace the thrust washer and bearings.
Too much shaft play can be bad. However, on a journal eating turbo, there is a normal amount of side to side shaft play that occurs. Additionally, In and out movements are not okay.
@@KCTURBOS on ball bearing turbos will there be any play? Just got a brand new ball bearing turbo and it has about as much side to side as the one in your video?
There will be scraping on one of the two sides or both inner walls, and the classic, sounds so cool high pitch noise when sppolin, when is in fact blades against the inner casting.
Just bought an open box s372sxe from someone and I noticed the little side to side wiggle. Almost sent my turbo out to be rebuilt, I thought dude scammed me with a shot turbo...thank got i found this video lol
I bought brand new turbo charger from AliExpress, there is no play at all. In my car working for 6 months, working good and very silent. Still no play after six months.
appreciate you getting straight to the point with no BS. so many videos on UA-cam are 10 minutes long to show this same thing.
I agree, usually have to skim through videos to get to the part that I actually want to see.
You're welcome! Some things need a more in depth explanation, but others short and sweet does the trick!
@@KCTURBOS No in and out movement independently of the bearings used? I bought a hybrid turbo and have in and out movement (still dont know how much) and he says with oil there will be no movement. I dont know he the seller is spitting bulshit or not... :(
@@Pedro_opcIt should never be any In-N-Out play on any turbo on a wet journal bearing turbo aka brass bearing turbo you have your side to side play but as a turbo runs oil fills that gap if you have a ball bearing turbo you shouldn't have any play because the ball bearings should not have side to side nor in or out play
dude i just breathed a sigh of relief haha
Same💀💀💀
@@chaselaframboise2511same here 😂🤣
And me😅
Lmao me too just bought twins 😂
same here was double checking the shaft play had to ask the homies as well but this jus gave me relief 🤣
I feel so relieved after watching this, many thanks!
Same I just got a 2nd gen swap on my 6.7 and me and my brother checked the shaft play and I was like shit that's not good then I came across this video
Me also. Took a huge dump now.
Feel relieved asf
@@Xennox2😂
Great info! However, that mainly applies to journal bearing turbos. Ball bearing turbos should have almost no play whatsoever.
The only shaft play I enjoy is right before sleepy time......
I'll see myself out.
This comment has me rolling 🤣
Lmao
Bruh lol
*bonk*
If there's any side to side play that means the housing or the fitting is very lose and it may need extra lubricant to help take out the side to side play ......if you don't use the correct amount of lubricant you may throw a rod.....😅😂
Thanks for this! Just had my turbo off to do some other work and noticed a similar amount of play. Glad to see that it's normal! I was expecting an expensive bill ahead!
Well this just saved me from buying a new turbo.
you made me happy about signs of turbo wear
I was gonna take my turbo for rebuild next week because this side to side play, thank you.
Thank you! Amazing how people don't know this.
thank you for this quick video,
my tdi turbo has up and down play but still has good power when driving.
i was worried sick that the turbo might be bad but after seeing this gives relief.
thank god for this video… just got an IS38 for my mk7 GLI and wasn’t sure if side shaft play was acceptable. thank you!
Thank you bro.. simple video to answer a simple question
Happy to help
Ok side to side play as long as it doesn’t touch the housing!👍
Correct sir! and remember, when a journal bearing is installed and it has oil pressure, the side to side play will be further reduced.
Thank you just rebuilt my turbo and had 2 thou axial which is in spec, but got very concerned with the radial movement.
Yeah keep in mind there has to be some slop for proper oil distribution through and around the bearings. Just as long as its not excessive play.
Thank you - had a feeling that oil would take up that space, but this really made my day
This holds true for turbochargers with thrust bearings, although ball bearing units should have none.
I have a turbo on a Cat 3176B, and I was just checking the shaft play. I get a bit of blue smoke, seemingly from the turbo, my buddy says they do that when they've sat for a long time, this one was a fire truck put on less than 500 miles a year for 20 years, then sat for 3 years before I got it.
Was thinking of rebuilding it myself this winter, just trying to figure out how much of an emergency it is. Doesn't seem like an emergency.
Thank you, thank you, thank you and THANK GOD my turbo kit, I just bought, passed this test!
Just got a new bigger turbo and had side to side play and no in out play. Thought it was bad😂
It can feel scary when you have a brand new turbo! Glad we could help save you some trouble.
So what you’re saying, in exact terms, is that RADIAL play is authorized and will correct when oil pressure is applied, but AXIAL play is no good.
Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!
My missus loves the in out movement & bitta side movement. Oh this about turbos ooopsies
Very helpful explanation. Thanks 🙏
Thank you so much I almost ordered a new one
Glad we could save you the trouble!
Wheww thanks for the clarification!
Thank you. I kinda figured oil pressure would make a difference
Thank you for this video, i dropped my turbo and noticed a tiny bit of side to side play and nearly had a heart attack
thanks, straight to the point, excelent.
my compressor and turbin move together, but not seperate. but just BARELY. i noticed how u touched each only 1 at a time.
Same here
Mr shaft goes 6inches deep 😔
Just received a new BW turbo. The play seemed excessive to me, but if this one is doing it it’s probably good.
No in and out movement independently of the bearings used? I bought a hybrid turbo and have in and out movement (still dont know how much) and the seller says with oil there will be no movement. I dont know he the seller is spitting bulshit or not... :(
If your compressor wheel has not contacted the adjacent surface then you are good.
oh, that's a relief, thanks!
Was about to confirm the dudes analogy. But then I seen who it is posting and they don't need confirmation. Y'all just need to listen
Would it be sane to rebuild a turbo after 7 years of ownership? Oils and filters are changed regularly. It is on a 2.5l diesel and it is an aftermarket kit. The land rover is used for towing up hill but it is hardly driven fast and hard because the roads are not decent. It is blowing some oil through the compressor side and It is not screaming that much at the moment.
The main thing you want to look at, is if the center section is in good shape. As long ass it is, you are good to go on a rebuild! Feel free to call or email us if you have any other questions.
the blades look ok (not rubbing against body) and it looks like it has only up and down movement (1mm or so when lifted by finger from the shaft) but no back and forth play (when pulled) @@KCTURBOS
@@josephsaid756 It sounds like you are good to go on a rebuild then. Assuming the "back and forth" play you are referring to is the same as the "in and out" mentioned in the video? Also, is the turbo a journal bearing or ball bearing? (Ball bearing turbos are not rebuildable)
@@KCTURBOS probably not ball bearing. I would need to open it.
Say there were no other visual issues besides but In and Out movement, what symptoms could that cause?
Can you tell me about the Borg Warner K03 Turbo that they use for the KIA 1.6L Turbo Smart Stream Engine?
TBH, we have never worked with that turbo so we would not be of any help.
What amount is totally normal, though. If there’s enough radial play couldn’t the turbine or compressor wheels contact their respective housings?
Correct, too much radial play the compressor wheel can make contact with the cover. What amount? As long as it feel tight and not sloppy.
Thank you thank you so much brothe❤
Something just does not feel right about that.. yea i know oil pressure.. but oil not being squished out under load seems very unlikely. Especially in diesels that are pushing 20psi at stock level
Phew. Thought my ebay turbo was junk. Oh wait it is. XD
LOL
my vf52 has a little side to side play like that. i thought it was toast. which wouldn't make sense because the oil gets changed every 3k or 3 months and it hardly sees boost.
Sounds like its still golden my friend!
bro, you just saved a lot of anxiety for me. lly Duramax is doing the same thing. 200,000 mi. thank god and thank you
so if I can move it both ways by like....3-5mm(about1/8-1/4 inch) would that be excessive or so so?
My Lucas Oil assembly oil takes up side to side. Zero play. Is this an issue. Zero issues on the few Ive rebuilt, but curious
You didn’t explain how it’s different for journal bearing turbos vs ball bearing turbos
Thats true. Ball bearings have zero shaft play.
If has some play in and out, there's no way adjust it, i mean to tighten?
Thanks??
There is not a way to tighten it unfortunately. Once this happens, the damage has been done and can only get worse. You would need to replace the thrust washer and bearings.
Thank you for your vidéo
That's weird, I've seen a lot of guys saying there turbo is bad because there is side to side play...
Too much shaft play can be bad. However, on a journal eating turbo, there is a normal amount of side to side shaft play that occurs. Additionally, In and out movements are not okay.
@@KCTURBOS on ball bearing turbos will there be any play? Just got a brand new ball bearing turbo and it has about as much side to side as the one in your video?
There will be scraping on one of the two sides or both inner walls, and the classic, sounds so cool high pitch noise when sppolin, when is in fact blades against the inner casting.
Does that go for ball bearing turbo too?
Should be no play for a BB turbo
Are the shafts balanced from the factory?
what if u can move the turbine and compressor together? just a tad.
Blown bearing
Is balancing recommended after rebuild? Or no?
Depends on the kit. We send our kits pre balanced and marked, so you just have to line up the dots.
Fml I got no side to side play but I have forward/backwards play
What oil pressure do they require
Whatever oil pressure your engine runs is fine.
Thank you😅😂
Mine moves in and out about 1/4 inch 😮
How much horsepower is that Turbo Rated for?
700-800+ HP
@@KCTURBOS Nice 👍
Great my 600 ebay turbo is done 😂
Just bought an open box s372sxe from someone and I noticed the little side to side wiggle. Almost sent my turbo out to be rebuilt, I thought dude scammed me with a shot turbo...thank got i found this video lol
A nice hydrodynamic wedge of oil to support the shaft….
Hmmm I'll check mine now
thank you bro
I have no side to side and plenty of in and out lmao.
No bueno sir
@@KCTURBOS she still spools but has like 264k miles on her. I'll probably get a cartridge and swap it.
Can I put this turbo on my Tacoma?
You can put that turbo on any car. Just get an exhaust manifold made for it. Whether or not it will spool is another story entirely.
I would be willing to let you guys use my truck as a test bed😁
Thanks man
You're welcome!
Axial and radial play.
Correct terminology. Most people would have to Google which is Axial & which is Radial, so In-n-Out & Side to Side is an easy explanation.
Now decrease my blood pressure
Help please iv just been hit with quote off place I paid 7k for 1200 pound for turbo for 2012 mitsubishi 2.2 outlander is this guy I'll name scamming
U got like 3 months of play right their tbh
Thats a brand new unit. The play is reduced once there is oil pressure though.
Muslims wear turbins, what's in The turbo? A TURBINE! 😂😂😂
It's a turbine not a turban!
Check out my turbo at 270k miles. From what i’m pickup up, it’s still good?
ua-cam.com/video/74zUJv2ldJQ/v-deo.htmlsi=18DVdcA2fRZPgyo_
Phew!
👍👍👍👍👍👍
It's not normal... It's medium mode
Nothing like watching a dude play with his shaft
Giggity.
This isn’t true on Ball bearing turbos
Correct
I bought brand new turbo charger from AliExpress, there is no play at all.
In my car working for 6 months, working good and very silent. Still no play after six months.
Probably a ball bearing turbo, they dont have radial play like a journalbearing.
@@KCTURBOS Maybe...