8 Doctor Who Episodes Ruined By Their Endings

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  • @SB-vj7sz
    @SB-vj7sz 3 роки тому +142

    I absolutely loved “The Next Doctor”, “Closing Time”, “Last of the Time Lords” Each episode revealed a deeper sense of The Doctor’s faith in humanity.

    • @obiwankenobi687
      @obiwankenobi687 3 роки тому +2

      The only valid one on this list is resolution, the other endings are just perfectly fine

    • @thetimelordfat-torious2269
      @thetimelordfat-torious2269 3 роки тому +1

      The next doctor I can agree on because how else you gawny stop the cyberking without blowing it up and have alot of fallin debris the could kill innocence down below
      Last of the time lord was a perfect ending due to it takin a year for it all to work and it also connects into the masters resurrection in the end of time (due to the whole belief in the doctor and master concepts )

    • @thetimelordfat-torious2269
      @thetimelordfat-torious2269 3 роки тому

      @@obiwankenobi687 I think it was quite a tackle one it makes sense to I think anyway it was make from a lot of scrap metal I think not really the biggest fan off season 11 and 12

    • @thetimelordfat-torious2269
      @thetimelordfat-torious2269 3 роки тому

      S B closing time al give you for the him have a deeping understanding and faith in humanity due to him
      Last of the time lords I see it as a mutual understanding and faith the doctor in humanity and then human race in the doctor until it became the year tht never was

    • @JaksonPedreira
      @JaksonPedreira 2 роки тому

      I don't understand the plot twist is above Doctor Who average level, but that three are superb.

  • @ayojim10
    @ayojim10 3 роки тому +231

    Am I the only one that was super frustrated by not being able to clearly read "Sweatshirt" on his sweatshirt

    • @Noycey64
      @Noycey64 3 роки тому +3

      Agree. Very annoying. Next time wear a tighter shirt.

    • @brainlock72
      @brainlock72 3 роки тому +7

      @@Noycey64 No, just clip the mic AWAY FROM ANY WRITING ON YOUR CHEST.

    • @Noycey64
      @Noycey64 3 роки тому +2

      @@brainlock72 my boo-boo, to me it looked like a fold in his shirt but I was watching this on a small screen so that’s my excuse. 😝

    • @Tim.Stotelmeyer
      @Tim.Stotelmeyer 3 роки тому +11

      I thought it said 'Skatshirt' and was wondering why he would wear a shirt that basically said poop shirt.

    • @ayojim10
      @ayojim10 3 роки тому +1

      @@Tim.Stotelmeyer 😂😂😂 I didn't even think that because i read the description but that would have been a better shirt

  • @kianolner3818
    @kianolner3818 3 роки тому +160

    I understand Craig’s transformation being stopped because cybermen have no emotion and Craig obviously felt emotion. But I don’t know how the others exploded. Unless the doctor did something we didn’t see.

    • @ItsTheBibby
      @ItsTheBibby 3 роки тому +25

      I believe it was a feedback loop that overloaded the other cybermen causing them to feel emotions to. Not sure this is a valid reason for them exploding but there you go.

    • @wealthdigger
      @wealthdigger 3 роки тому +19

      If i remember right they where going to make him a cyber leader. So thats why i guess?

    • @johnyshadow
      @johnyshadow 3 роки тому +9

      @@wealthdigger Didn´t the Doctor, like, mind-meld with him or something before? Maybe that helped? I´m reaching here...

    • @thomascollins5622
      @thomascollins5622 3 роки тому +21

      @@wealthdigger Cyber-controller, technically. He was literally linked into every other Cyberman present because they needed a, for lack of a better term, systems administrator.

    • @craigkelly6683
      @craigkelly6683 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah dude it was hard trying to fight back the transformation but I pulled through in the end

  • @thelambsauce1701
    @thelambsauce1701 3 роки тому +151

    I saw the title and I knew immediately that love and monsters would be on the list lol

    • @DKL.
      @DKL. 3 роки тому +5

      I feel like people ignore the fact that the monster was literally a kid's idea thanks to a Blue Peter competition

    • @onawal931
      @onawal931 3 роки тому +2

      @@DKL. Yeah, I thought it was a cute idea. I also like the running joke about naming it.

    • @TxSonofLiberty
      @TxSonofLiberty 3 роки тому +2

      I actually don't mind the booger, I don't mind that Moaning Murtle ends up as a Paving Stone, I don't mind them 'making it work' as a loving relationship... I mind that the relationship is physical and just simply emotional... I wouldn't call it a great episode, but had they left out the physical relationship part and simply had the pair at the end being friends, watching movies, reading, still keeping tabs on the Doctor's comings and goings, just being another pair of the many humans (like Alfie 'Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All' Owens and Craig 'Not Mom' Owens) the Doctor has had a weird impact on the lives of who could turn up again for a cameo later, I would have called it decent... that one thing is why it is #1 on this list and on so many other bad things in Whodom lists.
      I actually don't mind Craig fighting of Cybermanization through love, it has long been established powerful emotions are the Cybermen's real weakness. I attribute why Craig could feedback them having to do with the Doctor's Telepathic Kiss and the past psychic link he had with the Silence Timeship when he took over as the Pilot to save Sophie and the Doctor (which is also why Stormageddon is the Dark Lord of All, his parents having been slightly augmented by their exposure to the Timeship)

    • @thelambsauce1701
      @thelambsauce1701 3 роки тому

      @@DKL. I knew it was a kid's idea but I mainly criticize the writing cuz the kid only really drew a monster and gave it characteristics

    • @DavidBeddard
      @DavidBeddard 3 роки тому +1

      See, I wouldn't have expected this to be on the list because I wouldn't said "Love and Monsters" had enough going for it for the ending to have been what ruined it. However, I must admit, Séan did a pretty good job if extolling its virtues there... It's true to say I haven't re-watched it since I was a teenager so maybe I should give it another shot!

  • @cait812
    @cait812 3 роки тому +23

    To be fair they literally had NO choice with Power of Three. The actor refused to do his lines properly and refused to do his job literally as they were filming and they didn't have any time to do anything other than what they filmed

  • @ggmrgameanddraw
    @ggmrgameanddraw 3 роки тому +84

    honestly i thought the ending of closing time was very fitting. the cybermen’s whole thing is that they remove all emotion and hate any kind of weakness, so naturally they’d be overwhelmed by an extreme emotional response. it reminds me of when yvonne was able to overcome her conversion through here extreme sense of loyalty to her responsibilities.

    • @txrracxtta
      @txrracxtta 2 роки тому +12

      i fucking hate the lodger and closing time, because even though they're both great great episodes that are super enjoyable to watch and do a great job of giving the doctor some realistic human friends who handle situations realistically as well as showcase a much more laidback yet intuitive side of the doctor, they're episodes that have james corden acting very well in a way that makes me like james corden and i just can't accept that

    • @matr1x327
      @matr1x327 Рік тому

      The closing time ending makes perfect sense aswell thanks to the ending of the parallel universe cyberman episodes where they are destroyed when the doctor reactivates their emotiond

  • @ServantOfOdin
    @ServantOfOdin 2 роки тому +17

    Well, Love and Monsters is a weird episode for a few good reasons. It was basically a non-main-cast episode because the main cast was filming the Christmas special of the year, so the show had to focus on other people as much as possible. Davies got inspired by combining the two concepts of "The Zeppo" from Buffy the Vampire Slayer and "Lower Decks" from Star Trek. And the show was deanded to include the winner of a "Design a Doctor Who monster" (yes, that is a thing), and the winner was the 9-year-old William Grantham. Only that he envisaged it far bigger, but the production-team was never informed of that, so poor William was a bit disappointed on that end. So yea, that's just one of the episodes that will always be a point of discontent.

  • @jimmy_the_squid9456
    @jimmy_the_squid9456 3 роки тому +24

    The Abzorbaloff was literally designed by a child who won a contest and it really shows, definitely one of the worst villains in Who history. And yes that paving slab joke was just weird and gross

    • @thatjeff7550
      @thatjeff7550 Рік тому

      It was due to poor execution. The kid's idea was great--a monster that didn't eat people but absorbed them and integrated everything about them into its body. Basically the Blob only you also are alive while it absorbs you and your personal experiences are "eaten" as well.

  • @Atalanta1313
    @Atalanta1313 3 роки тому +45

    after spending 2 hours convincing us Gangers were people, the very last thing the Doctor does is . . . . murder Amy's ganger

    • @lighinz137
      @lighinz137 3 роки тому +32

      My understanding is that Amy's flesh avatar was only an avatar. It wasn't a separate being, like the Gangers, it was just made of the same material. It was connected to Amy's mind and being directly controlled by her, and the Doctor just broke off the connection. It's not great writing, because it IS misleading, but the Doctor didn't kill anyone here

  • @VCSaars
    @VCSaars 3 роки тому +17

    In my opinion - Love and Monsters features the best use of Jackie Tyler

  • @philipcrosby3462
    @philipcrosby3462 3 роки тому +75

    Does anyone realise love and monsters was a episode where the monster was created by a kid who won a Blue Peter competition? Like I never hear anyone mention this part of the episode

    • @NeilBlumengarten
      @NeilBlumengarten 3 роки тому +11

      Thank you. I can forgive the Abzorbaloff because of that. And really, "Love and Monsters" gets a lot of hate, but I think that's a lot of good in it.

    • @philipcrosby3462
      @philipcrosby3462 3 роки тому +4

      @@NeilBlumengarten I mean I do think they could have done a bit better with the writing but that kids world was made with that, and I remember being about their age and being jealous as hell 😄

    • @danielslater2001
      @danielslater2001 3 роки тому +5

      The guy who made it made a youtube video about his time on blue peter

    • @philipcrosby3462
      @philipcrosby3462 3 роки тому +1

      @@danielslater2001 AHH cool! Whats his channels name?

    • @mgthestrange9098
      @mgthestrange9098 3 роки тому

      Yes I do, it was a decent concert TBF, it was just poorly executed.

  • @r.g.o3879
    @r.g.o3879 2 роки тому +20

    Rory's dad Brian was actually a hoot, loved him in the couple episodes he was in especially the one with the dinosaurs queen Nefertiti and the Silurian ship. One of the better comedic actors to pop up over the years. Like so many others who are attached to a current companions family or some such when a new Doctor appears we lose those excellent characters who added a lot to the show.

    • @marianwelty5552
      @marianwelty5552 Рік тому

      He's definitely a Weasley

    • @DestruoTheWithered
      @DestruoTheWithered Рік тому +1

      When my mum saw Brian, she was like: “THATS THE ACTOR FOR FATHER BROWN!!” I laughed for a while after that…

  • @redsquirrel724
    @redsquirrel724 3 роки тому +28

    "The Power of Three" is one of those episodes where the "Threat" would have worked better had it actually been a miscommunication or misunderstanding of sorts.
    The Doctor thinks it's a threat but they discover the cubes were actually some alien race crying out for help, like messages in a bottle. Then the episode requires less clean up at the end of the episode and you can get away with the Doctor fixing it quickly, while not undoing the mystery of the cubes, and it still allows the episode to have it's final exploration and impact of Amy and Rory having to pick between their home and TARDIS lives, while having their last adventures with the Doctor.

  • @Feelrightathome
    @Feelrightathome 3 роки тому +45

    Doctor once said "there are no god in the universe i checked" mh a few seasons later 2 evil gods that can do everything

    • @Iwishihaddonethisbefore
      @Iwishihaddonethisbefore 3 роки тому

      Not really gods if they can be beaten are they?

    • @dredd1981
      @dredd1981 3 роки тому +7

      @GamingWithChu No, rule 1 : Canon means nothing to chibnall

    • @dredd1981
      @dredd1981 3 роки тому +1

      @GamingWithChu lol good one, oh wait, you're serious?

    • @dredd1981
      @dredd1981 3 роки тому +3

      @GamingWithChu There have always been certain things set in stone....the first dr was William Hartnell and the dr is a time lord.....but now thanks to chibs retcon neither of those things are true.

    • @dredd1981
      @dredd1981 3 роки тому +1

      @GamingWithChu I don't see where it's confirmed by chibs or the beeb that Hartnell is still the first dr. Have you a source for this or is it your opinion?
      I take your point about being a time lord, but the Dr was always from Gallifrey....not any more though.

  • @jupamoers
    @jupamoers 3 роки тому +6

    Love and Monsters...the only good thing is Rose scolding Elton :D
    Rose: "You upset my mum." Elton: "There's a big fat human absorbing alien and your shouting at me?" Rose: "No one upsets my mum"

  • @baird329
    @baird329 3 роки тому +3

    I thought the downright wrong paving stone sex joke was a redeeming point of the episode. Then again I have a warped sense of humor.

  • @robthetindog8218
    @robthetindog8218 2 роки тому +11

    There are some very enjoyable parts of love & monsters; especially the part where Elton witnesses the Thru the door chase scene with Rose, the Doctor & some alien baddie that ends with the Doctor popping back out & saying’ do I know you?’ & Elton bails at high speed….😆

  • @williamgeorgefraser
    @williamgeorgefraser 3 роки тому +11

    I often find the same problem with novels. The author creates an amazing story that is so intricate that there is no possible outcome. The ending is therefore just a wet blanket. It's most annoying but is probably due to authors making up the story as they go along. It's very easy to build up tension but not so easy to find a logical finale.

  • @ArticTiger
    @ArticTiger 3 роки тому +22

    Ironic an episode called resolution is let down by its... resolution.

  • @kalyndahaaf7395
    @kalyndahaaf7395 3 роки тому +7

    Love & Monsters - the monster was designed by a kid as a "send in challenge" so that is a positive thing about that episode.

  • @stevebills5716
    @stevebills5716 3 роки тому +10

    Oh, just for a moment I thought I'd see someone agree with me. I absolutely agree that Love and Monsters had the worst ending. But the rest of it I really enjoy.
    That said, the one episode notably missing is the moon one, whatever it was called. High tension, high drama, again impossible situation to resolve - so the space dragon lays an egg of exactly the same size in exactly the same position with exactly the same crater patterns.

  • @the-oncomingstorm
    @the-oncomingstorm 3 роки тому +21

    Everything ends. But my popcorn machine isn't everything!

    • @tevvytevvy2672
      @tevvytevvy2672 3 роки тому +3

      Every day in a million days, when the wind stands fair, and the doctor comes to call...
      ALL THE POPCORN LIVES!!!

  • @kieran7675
    @kieran7675 3 роки тому +71

    My main problem with the "closing time" ending is that... Every other person converted just didn't have strong emotions or something?

    • @johntabler349
      @johntabler349 3 роки тому +11

      I took it as being hit with the overwhelming wave of emotion at that one critical moment when he was in communication with the network but still retained his identity plus its a series troupe that random ordinary people have extraordinary abilities that manifest in moments of need

    • @lovejoy1311
      @lovejoy1311 3 роки тому +1

      They weren’t trying hard enough.

    • @dantesinferno80
      @dantesinferno80 3 роки тому +1

      I assumed it was due to Craig being the cyber controller- so they would all be plugged into him, so when he felt strong emotion it filtered through to the rest

  • @sandybfox2446
    @sandybfox2446 3 роки тому +8

    Timelash. It just ends with the Doctor and Perri flying away in the TARDIS after the doctor fixes the thing and Perri asks the Doctor how he did it. To which the Doctor just turns to her and says, "Oh, it's a neat little trick. I'll tell you about it someday." And then... cut to closing credits.

    • @bradfilippone7064
      @bradfilippone7064 3 роки тому

      Go through the entire classic series and count how many times the Doctor says some variation of "I'll tell you later" and never does. You will lose count.

    • @sumedhbk9984
      @sumedhbk9984 2 роки тому

      @@bradfilippone7064 actually no, SB F is right. As far as I remember it was only in timelash

  • @Vortex-ps6sv
    @Vortex-ps6sv 3 роки тому +15

    the biggest problem with Power of Three is that the sonic solved the plot the sonic becomes too much like a solve all instead of a tool like The Doctor should have done something else

    • @william...1
      @william...1 3 роки тому +3

      pretty much the only option. either that or a switch. the original ending was written much better but the actor for Shakri was so so unbearable they had to emergency end it

    • @julieeverett7442
      @julieeverett7442 3 роки тому +1

      yep

    • @Noycey64
      @Noycey64 3 роки тому +2

      Vortex257 it was for this reason that John Nathan Turner had Peter Davison’s Doctor’s sonic screwdriver destroyed because it was too easy for the doctor to get out of danger with it.

    • @Vortex-ps6sv
      @Vortex-ps6sv 3 роки тому

      @@Noycey64 we do need to see the sonic go bye for a while but my guess is they want to sell sonic merch

  • @drdarkeny
    @drdarkeny 3 роки тому +2

    Well, as Mark Kermode said, they just had a punch-up, reversed the polarities of the neutron flow, and everything was Bob's your uncle!

  • @OfficialSuperMKG
    @OfficialSuperMKG 3 роки тому +11

    Everybody after The Almost People : "Are we the baddies?"

    • @brainlock72
      @brainlock72 3 роки тому

      UK: does anything.
      [blowback/biggest exporter of Independence Days EVER]
      UK: Are we the baddies?

  • @declanhugors
    @declanhugors 3 роки тому +7

    *Here's my Timeless Child theory:*
    After John Simm's Master lasers Missy with the full blast of his laser screwdriver in "The Doctor Falls," Missy regenerates anyway into Sacha Duan's Master. He somehow then makes his way to Gallifrey when the Timelords Reveal that he is the Timeless Child, causing him to go insane realizing that he would never die and have a limitless regeneration supply, which explains his insanity during his return in Spyfall. Later in Season 12, the Master's insanity increases, leading him back to Gallifrey where he uses The Moment, determined to discover any survivors. (If any did survive, he would not be the only Timeless Child and therefore not alone, but Gallifrey falls.)
    This is how the Master could destroy Gallifrey in "one night." Furthermore, if my theory is true, Ruth must also be an incarnation of the Master and therefore could be the true reason as to why the Judoon were pursuing her, meaning that there should be a big reveal that she is another incarnation. Because of her sanity, it would make the most sense for her to be the incarnation right before Derek Jacobi's Master.
    A good plot of the Season 13 finale would be Ruth's reveal, the Doctor discovering the true story of the Timeless Child, and a final conclusion between the Masters' two incarnations. Because Sacha Duan's Master still desperately wants to die, the Doctor, after her and the Master's arcs are completed and they have sympathy for each other, somehow gives the Master the ability to die. However, Ruth's Mistress doesn't understand the Master's arc yet just like how John Simm's Master didn't understand Missy's perspective in "The Doctor Falls" when she stabbed him. Ruth therefore tries to prevent the Master from killing himself by locking him in the Matrix. Eventually, after battling his previous incarnation along with saving the Doctor and her companions from Ruth for an interval of the finale, Sacha Duan's Master begins to realize that he's turning good; He's saving people like the Doctor's companions that didn't need to be saved in order to get him what he wanted. By the end of the episode, the Master tells Ruth that he will live through his last incarnation (because he now has the ability to die) and help people like the Doctor instead of continuing to be a bad person. Unfortunately, Ruth still hasn't turned and decides it's better for the Master to die than to stand with the Doctor, so she blasts him with her laser screwdriver (Which wasn't revealed that she had one until this moment), taking everyone by surprise as the Master slowly lies down and rests. The Doctor is pushed to the edge; She uses [some weapon that has a reason to be present] to kill Ruth's Mistress, following even more shock from her companions and everybody who previously acknowledged her hate for violence. The Doctor then seals Ruth's identity in the pocket watch once she regenerates into Derek Jacobi's Master which is then later opened during Season 3, allowing the Master to continue his tasks and then jumps back in the tardis with Yaz and her other companion/companions. Horrified by her decision, Yaz and the others leave the TARDIS fam in a peaceful and farewell manner, leaving the 13th Doctor to go on her last New Year Special episode journey alone.
    This is a perfect setup. Please share this idea to as many people as you can, no need to give credit, just so this plot shines out among the Doctor Who Community. Thank you for taking your time to read this and have a nice day!

    • @eddherring3088
      @eddherring3088 2 роки тому

      No, although I have to say that the Master being if you like the Master and all other Timelords being copies is a great explanation of why the Master is called the Master, it's not Master and servant or Master and apprentice it's Master and (inferior) copies. Unfortunately it cannot be true because of classic Who, the Peter Pratt and Geoffrey Beevers Master and of course Anthony Ainley's Master was a stolen body. New Who seems to have forgotten about that. No, the timeless child is as much of a blunder as the Paradigm Daleks, only its probably worse and I think you may find it never gets mentioned again, well except for "What happened to that timeless child thing?" being asked a lot.

    • @GabePuratekuta
      @GabePuratekuta 2 роки тому

      Timeless Child wasn't even mentioned in the video, though.

    • @declanhugors
      @declanhugors 2 роки тому

      Forget all of this, Chibnal didn't redeem himself :(

  • @antney7745
    @antney7745 3 роки тому +38

    Love & Monsters wasn't ruined by the ending. It was ruined by Peter Kay's character existing.

    • @Blobert_01
      @Blobert_01 3 роки тому +1

      what's wrong with Peter kay????

    • @antney7745
      @antney7745 3 роки тому +2

      @@Blobert_01 Nothing at all, the *character* of The Giant Green Turd was a disaster.

    • @Blobert_01
      @Blobert_01 3 роки тому +2

      @@antney7745 oh ok lol, that's cuz it was a kids idea in a "send in ideas" thing, I personally think it's one of the funniest episodes in the whole franchise because of how bad it is but that's what makes it so good lmao, the "really? what's the twin planet of rocksicoricafallipatorious?"
      "klom" "klom?" "yes" that scene is just so funny to me lmao

    • @antney7745
      @antney7745 3 роки тому +2

      @@Blobert_01 If I remember correctly, the original design was a monster the size of a house, so it would have been something more like the classic horror movie The Blob, instead of what we ended up getting.

  • @fruitchewx127
    @fruitchewx127 3 роки тому +4

    I agree the psychic regeneration wasn't great but I didn't mind because right after we had the final interaction between the doctor and the master

  • @assassinscreed8597
    @assassinscreed8597 3 роки тому +8

    Live and monsters: absorbalof was inspired by a kids design, that’s positive! Made a list of outside influences in doctor who designs!

  • @djashley2002
    @djashley2002 3 роки тому +6

    And not a single mention of Kill the Moon, In The Forest of the Night, or Orphan 55, all of which managed to jump the shark in their last minutes. And that's just going with New Who!
    You really need to find a better writer, guys, because I can think of a dozen Who stories with worse endings than this list without even trying.

    • @supermrmaro
      @supermrmaro 3 роки тому

      Tbf it isn't just about a bad ending, It's about the episode being ruined by the ending. i.e the episode was good leading up to the ending. Idk if Orphan 55 fits that bill. Maybe kill the moon but the kid was really obnoxious from the start.

    • @jorgesevilla
      @jorgesevilla 3 роки тому +1

      Open your own channel then, ffs

  • @JJFlashDog
    @JJFlashDog 3 роки тому +3

    nuh-uh. you cannot calle the doctor "space jesus" when young Obi-Wan exists

  • @ZatoichiBattousai
    @ZatoichiBattousai 3 роки тому +25

    Love and Monsters; All the Doctor Who episodes that end with a happy ending.

  • @wethepeople5753
    @wethepeople5753 3 роки тому +4

    My problem with 7:21 is physically walking around the Earth. One straight line (24,901 miles according to Google) would be 4.25 mph for 16 hours a day for 365 days. That's a quick walk, WITHOUT spending time to talk to everyone you meet, gaining their trust, and giving them the instructions.

  • @markharger8435
    @markharger8435 3 роки тому +3

    Finally convinced my dad to give doctor who a try back when 10 was on tv. And the first episode he saw was love and monsters.

    • @DWAkhaten
      @DWAkhaten Рік тому

      Oof, now that is some really bad luck.

    • @DWAkhaten
      @DWAkhaten Рік тому

      Oof, now that is some really bad luck.

  • @raygunner8643
    @raygunner8643 3 роки тому +4

    Still waiting on a list of the Doctor's Best Speeches. It's such an iconic part of his character

    • @jimmy_the_squid9456
      @jimmy_the_squid9456 3 роки тому +1

      That's what Jodie's Doctor is missing, big epic speeches delivered with gravitas that make her look commanding and badass

  • @jmdunnel1
    @jmdunnel1 3 роки тому +2

    I'd put the episode about the moon being an egg right at the top. Maybe it was so bad you forgot it?

  • @paulbeardsley4095
    @paulbeardsley4095 3 роки тому +2

    The worst thing about the lame ending of Last of the Time Lords is that we KNEW It would end that way. RTD era Who never dealt with consequences, so anyone paying attention knew that the more irreversible the development, the more RTD would backpedal, or else ignore the implications.
    That and the fact that all his finales were the same.

  • @youraveragepersonwalkingth6850
    @youraveragepersonwalkingth6850 3 роки тому +4

    Closing times ending was short because well a longtime has passed and of course he becomes popular and the cyber man had to cut off their emotions or they would go insane. Another Cyberman having emotions and the crying makes the Cyberman remember their conversion because of all the emotion short circuits them and they blow up. Without Cyberman to pilot the ship it explodes as a backup measure to kill the one who blew them up. This is what I got from the ending. I kinda tuned out so sorry if some stuff is wrong.
    A better ending for the almost people would be the monster chasing them and getting the doctor. The doctor switched shoes with the ganger but we don’t know that so we think he is dead. Amy stops and cries over the doctor. Rory stares at the doctors dead body body and grabs Amy and tell her to leave. The monster stares at the doctors dead body and doesn’t know if it’s a ganger or not. It stares at the body and questions if it’s doing the right thing. The doctor comes in and announces that he is the real doctor and that was the ganger. The monster stops as it realises what it’s doing and everyone realises the building is about to explode so they start running. As they run acid leaks and one of the gangers gets trapped on the other side. The monster now back to being Jenny sacrifices herself to save the ganger and everyone get back to the tardiness and then the rest of the regular ending happens. This I think would be a better ending. If you think otherwise I would love to hear your thoughts.

  • @Taek2017
    @Taek2017 3 роки тому +33

    Where is Rich We loved him we miss him ???

    • @GoddessOfWhim2003
      @GoddessOfWhim2003 3 роки тому +6

      it's like Sean is taking over all the channels of What Culture. where's Rich and Adam Cleary?

    • @randomshit308
      @randomshit308 3 роки тому +9

      Where is Rich? Is he safe? Is he alright?

    • @midaslife654
      @midaslife654 3 роки тому +4

      @@randomshit308he quit who culture he is still on what culture

    • @midaslife654
      @midaslife654 3 роки тому +3

      @@GoddessOfWhim2003 he quit who culture he is still on what culture

    • @speedy316uk
      @speedy316uk 3 роки тому +3

      @@midaslife654 he isn't on WC at all, he quit the company wholesale he doesn't work there anymore. He is doing his own streams on twitch now

  • @luciadwhpanimallover9222
    @luciadwhpanimallover9222 3 роки тому +10

    Great video, it also shows how great 9th (Eccleston) and 12th (Capaldi) doctor episodes are as there's no 9th or 12th doctor episodes on this list ruined by their endings.

    • @ellysemilton1309
      @ellysemilton1309 3 роки тому

      To be fair, it simply means they were not ruined by the ending. They could still be bad throughout.

    • @luciadwhpanimallover9222
      @luciadwhpanimallover9222 3 роки тому

      @@ellysemilton1309 I disagree, none of Capaldi’s episodes are bad.

    • @jerwheel
      @jerwheel 3 роки тому

      @@luciadwhpanimallover9222 Not even Kill the Moon?

    • @luciadwhpanimallover9222
      @luciadwhpanimallover9222 3 роки тому +1

      @@jerwheel What's your problem with kill the moon? it's a good episode. It's about would you kill an innocent animal even if it might put others in danger.? it gives a general message to respect animals and it's a nice concept.

    • @jerwheel
      @jerwheel 3 роки тому +2

      @@luciadwhpanimallover9222 My issue is not with the concept, but with how Capaldi was written for that episode. The doctor is constantly giving background information, even when you don't him to. And in this episode, when the companions desperately *need* that background information, he clams up. He could have told them exactly what the creature was, what it would do, etc. He had that knowledge. Instead he abandons Clara and the others with not enough information and only shows up again when she's made the "right" decision. For all of his passion about not killing, he was ready to let Clara destroy that animal - didn't protest even once!

  • @alisonpahlkotter3013
    @alisonpahlkotter3013 3 роки тому +5

    Love and Monsters was a very bad episode, so how could it have been ruined by its ending? By making the "happy ending" truly disturbing.

  • @Enterprise1701J
    @Enterprise1701J 3 роки тому +3

    I feel like the Resolution Dalek was killed off with the right amount of power...they tossed him into a collapsing sun.

  • @1xavi2
    @1xavi2 3 роки тому +13

    As someone who's at the end of season 2 i wish there was a list in the description so I only see the part of the video that wont have spoilers

    • @22dallas1
      @22dallas1 3 роки тому +2

      I skipped through the video, and the only episode that’s pre season 2 finale is at 9:45

    • @DrWhoFanJ
      @DrWhoFanJ 3 роки тому +4

      I’d say most of this video will be spoilers if you’ve only reached 1965! (The Time Meddler, the last story of Season 2)
      😜😜😜😜

    • @commenterjosh2428
      @commenterjosh2428 3 роки тому +1

      @@DrWhoFanJ (he probably means series 2) good joke

    • @DrWhoFanJ
      @DrWhoFanJ 3 роки тому +1

      @@commenterjosh2428 (I know, hence the emoji…that I’ve now just realised I forgot to actually add!)
      And thank you; it’s one of my pet peeves when people use those words interchangeably!

    • @commenterjosh2428
      @commenterjosh2428 3 роки тому +2

      @@DrWhoFanJ well, I do too, I just add NuWho or Classic Who to tell them apart since I'm used to episodes being grouped into seasons and not series.

  • @martinpattison8916
    @martinpattison8916 3 роки тому +3

    The one that always sticks in my mind is "Terror of the Autons" - never understood why the scriptwriters couldn't have come up with a better ending.

  • @zaffarismail1508
    @zaffarismail1508 Рік тому +1

    comming back the craig, it's actually not the first time that love over came the cybermen.
    in the season 2 finale. Evon Hartman, the head of torchwood, is coverted into a cyberman and then due to her love for queen and country, breaks through this programming, gets a pete's world gun and uses it to hold off the entire cyberman army

  • @iusethisnameformygoogleacc1013
    @iusethisnameformygoogleacc1013 3 роки тому +2

    Not at all different from that one Dalek from the beginning of RTD because it ended up stopped via esoteric means before making its way out of the building. That Dalek demonstrated itself to be just as capable of doing literally that, they just didn't waste a ton of money having it fight a progressively bigger and scarier materiel it would obviously no-sell.

  • @TripleJumpYTP
    @TripleJumpYTP 3 роки тому +8

    How about the opposite now, episodes that was better because of the ending

  • @scifiwriter6092
    @scifiwriter6092 3 роки тому +1

    In the Almost People, I was trying to keep track of which Doctor was the clone. They made a mistake and put the wrong Doctor in one scene. It's been years since I have seen that episode, but if I remember right, he had his sonic screwdriver the wrong hand.

  • @Tim.Stotelmeyer
    @Tim.Stotelmeyer 3 роки тому +3

    Almost People felt like an origin story for the Nestene.

  • @aannddrryyaa
    @aannddrryyaa 2 роки тому +2

    Oh I just loved the James C episodes. They work well together and James' is such a natural.

  • @spaceagepenguin
    @spaceagepenguin 3 роки тому +3

    totally agree with you! some other episodes I would mention ended rather poorly for me are...
    1. The Timeless Children (Season 12)
    2. PRAXEUS (Season 12)
    3. Orphan 55 (Season 12)
    4. The Battle for Ranskor Av Kolos (Season 11)
    5. (trigger warning on this one) The Doctor Falls (Season 10) (I really love the episode it's one of my favorites, but we didn't need to have that ridiculous "The Pilot" deus ex machina in the middle of a rather emotional punch in the gut)
    6. Knock, Knock. (Season 10)
    7. The Witch's Familiar (Season 9, remember the death by Dalek goop?)
    8. Kill the Moon (Season 8, would've been better if a giant chicken came out of the moon than... whatever the heck that was)
    9. Dinosaurs on a Spaceship (Season 7, you know the one where the Doctor plan flat murdered a guy!)
    10. The God Complex (Season 6, a brilliant episode that has to end on a Star Trek holodeck... seriously?!)
    there's loads more but I probably don't have the space. anyways, there's my top ten (I haven't seen the first 4 seasons in a long time and I've forgotten some of the episodes.

  • @joniii_
    @joniii_ 3 роки тому +2

    The ganger episode is one of my favourites but it started to go downhill a lot when the ganger Jenny was basically acting like a spoiled brat. Also they spend at least couple of minutes in the tunnel where the ganger character is supposebly breaking through. It literally seems like it's given up until the goodbyes are said like "oh they saying heartfelt stuff, don't want to be interrupting that".

  • @MrGlenbw
    @MrGlenbw Рік тому +1

    For me, none of these episodes even come close to the infuriating ending of Series 7 episode 'Hide'; it has a genuinely scary premise and atmosphere, not to mention having all the ingredients of a great horror movie, until that controversial 'twist' that is akin to 'turning Freddy Kruger into a sympathetic and misunderstood victim of circumstances' ("This isn't a ghost story, it's a LOVE story!" 😖).
    Although I've grown softer to the ending on my second watch, it still feels like a BIG missed opportunity to utilize the show's horror elements to its full potential.

  • @gladstonew
    @gladstonew 3 роки тому +2

    As someone who hates James Corden, the power of love ending works

  • @tenshiigarashi4063
    @tenshiigarashi4063 3 роки тому +3

    Nitpicking. In case you haven't watch Doctor Who for a long time those sudden solutions are the result of the Doctor's (and Time lords in general) super power. In fact some books describe this plot shield as a power of all Time Lords. As Time Lords are by their nature space time events their mere appearance in a time-zone warps reality in subtle undetectable ways that work to their advantage. A self destruct button may appear in a control panel, enemies will be compelled to listen to the Time Lord instead of just shooting the individual on sight, a bullet may miss or hit in an area that will allow regeneration or a sudden distraction will allow the Time Lord to escape before the weapon is fired. Not to mention that The Doctor ( and probably all Time Lords) have massively faster than light body reactions and thought speed. So even 30 seconds in a room the Doctor already has a plan A, B, C D...and so on.
    About the Eternals...The Doctor is no joke. The 7th Doctor turned an eternal into a mortal. An angry Doctor can take almost anything in fiction.

  • @davidaward82
    @davidaward82 3 роки тому +3

    the cybermen have always been defeated by emotion... almost literally every time.

  • @whovian1055
    @whovian1055 3 роки тому +2

    I think the idiots lantern should have been on here. It had a dreadful ending

  • @noahu_photography7478
    @noahu_photography7478 3 роки тому +22

    Ah yes! PLEASE do a music episode!!!! Murray Gold is AMAZING!

  • @ninino86
    @ninino86 3 роки тому +1

    My bug-bear bad ending will forever be "Listen". Such a good premise that builds and builds, and... then in the end we dont just turn away from the entire premise of the creature that we've been building up, but it turns into a sentimental drama fest? Dont mind it on its own but we hade a really great scary episode going that I personally wanted to see the end of(!).

  • @kyeflint1
    @kyeflint1 3 роки тому +1

    Half expected dinosaurs on a space ship to take number one 😂

  • @infernalflame97
    @infernalflame97 3 роки тому +6

    Could you do a list on the top episodes without the doctor because even if it is not many I would like to see them explained?

  • @buckyball2003
    @buckyball2003 3 роки тому +5

    As soon as I saw the title of the episode I thought of Last of the Time Lords😂
    I disagree with you on Closing Time though, I thought that was a really good ending and actually my favourite bit of the episode.

  • @kianharvey9787
    @kianharvey9787 3 роки тому +3

    None of the Whittaker episodes were ruined by bad endings - they were shit throughout

  • @averywho6430
    @averywho6430 3 роки тому +2

    I definitely think the ending to The Haunting of Villa Diodati was incredibly disappointing since that whole “character is told to not do something no matter what and immediately does that thing afterwards” trope is so over used. It would’ve been so much better if the Doctor refused to give the “Cyberman” the orb thing and they had to duke it out. And the follow up was just as disappointing since it was the standard usual “this is the last of humanity and now we get to watch them die off one by one against insanely hopeless odds” and the other standard usual “behold this new unkillable and basically god like enemy that literally won’t die no matter what- oh look they’re all dead now” bullshit. The writing is way too predictable and leads to boring stories.

  • @grahamcann1761
    @grahamcann1761 3 роки тому +4

    I really expected the moon hatching... oh well.
    As always, thank you so very much for the video.

    • @tracyroweauthor
      @tracyroweauthor 3 роки тому +1

      my main problem with that episode was its very obvious anti-abortion message.

    • @jjknight636
      @jjknight636 3 роки тому

      @@tracyroweauthor without raising a huge debate, I thought that the message is quite consistent for Doctor Who. You could say the show has often anti-war and anti-racism messages for example. Abortion is never a pleasant, positive experience. It becomes necessary in specific conditions, but in an ideal world, it would never be necessary... Who is all about ideals, so, not surprising that the show would deal with the subject

    • @tracyroweauthor
      @tracyroweauthor 3 роки тому

      @@jjknight636 the messages about war and racism are not only blatant, they are welcome. Subtle messages about abortion are not. Especially from a male perspective. Let's not forget that a man is the showrunner and the head writer. Dcctor Who is not the platform to make such a statement from

    • @jjknight636
      @jjknight636 3 роки тому

      @@tracyroweauthor I see what you mean, I disagree mainly for this reason: the fact that a man is behind the episode shouldn’t discredit the story. This was not the work of a single man, but of a large group of people. Like war, abortion is not a simple issue. Clara had a choice, and it was difficult, but she made it. And that’s what’s happening to so many women in the world. The negative part was that she was alone, and the responsibility was put on her, like so many women. The episode ends “well” (no one dies), but also very badly (Clara leaves the Doctor). I would say it is quite representative of the issue.

    • @tracyroweauthor
      @tracyroweauthor 3 роки тому

      @@jjknight636 I really appreciate that you felt you needed to educate me on the complexities of the abortion issue. And I doubly appreciate how you talked down to me while doing so.
      My point is that Moffat (who is actually my favorite showrunner) felt it necessary to insert his anti-abortion beliefs into an episode of DW. It was condescending and frankly, insulting.

  • @ellenmurphy2150
    @ellenmurphy2150 3 роки тому +1

    Love and Monsters. One of my favorite all time Who scenes is the Doctor and Rose chasing the monster of the week in the ware house at the beginning of the episode. Thats classic! The rest of the episode should never have been made. Just terrible. Terrible ending.

  • @kzzRR
    @kzzRR 3 роки тому +2

    I think The Return of Doctor Mysterio was a let down, not just the ending but all of it. It didn't have enough super hero in it and cheap copy of superman, and found it was too predictable, also stupid on the love part. I mean the women knew the guy for years then suddenly she fall for him?

  • @csueconner9711
    @csueconner9711 3 роки тому +2

    I would love so see a sonic screwdriver episode. How does the sonic screwdriver differ between each doctor with ability and looks? When did the sonic screwdriver go from a tool to a thing that fixed everything regardless of whether or not it makes sense?

    • @julieeverett7442
      @julieeverett7442 3 роки тому +1

      I can answer that last one, modern era, the VERY first use was with 2nd, and it was a literal screwdriver, it undid bolts, and as it progressed it fixed other things too, its only in modern era it became in effect a magic wand

    • @csueconner9711
      @csueconner9711 3 роки тому

      @@julieeverett7442 thanks

  • @thomasmills339
    @thomasmills339 Рік тому +1

    What I'll never understand about DW is why some episodes look terrific. Good CGI, set pieces and practical effects and some just look thrown together and cheap. Like children built the set. Like it or not this show is a British iconic institution and a lucrative export. People love it.. The writing and acting is usually good so..spend the money. Game of Thrones spent 92 million per episode and made more than double on each . Whoever controls the money please give it to the production team.

  • @philnewton-england7795
    @philnewton-england7795 3 роки тому +3

    I think you’re saying “‘New Who’ needs better writers & then it’ll be a good show”.

    • @seanblackhurst7844
      @seanblackhurst7844 3 роки тому +1

      Not just better writers, the show needs to stop taking itself so seriously. IMO doctor who is at it's best when it remembers that it is a tones down version of the carry on films, i.e. camp fun with tongue in cheek digs at the days political bs.

    • @philnewton-england7795
      @philnewton-england7795 3 роки тому +1

      @@seanblackhurst7844 True. I hate the fact they’ve made the Doctor some kind of All-Powerful God !!!

  • @artembentsionov
    @artembentsionov 3 роки тому +10

    I actually love the psychic regeneration scene. Definitely a lot of Jesus symbolism there (resurrection, flying with outstretched hands, forgiveness)

    • @jerwheel
      @jerwheel 3 роки тому +1

      I love it too, because various things that the Doctor does indicate he has a lot of psychic potential whenever he chooses to use it. So tapping the psychic energy of over 6 billion people gives him more than enough energy to do whatever he needs to do. Imagine what you could do with that much power.

    • @lloydzeroa.k.aforger6990
      @lloydzeroa.k.aforger6990 2 роки тому

      I thought that it was cool.
      Pulling an Eleven

  • @robertfeld5829
    @robertfeld5829 Рік тому +1

    You should have added that scene where the Doctor just dismissed Graham's fears of his cancer returning.

  • @jeromelancashire3278
    @jeromelancashire3278 3 роки тому +2

    4:11 Hey he may be badass physically but he looks stupid, he looks like that cylinder bin you have in the corner of the room that you have left a bag of garbage or clothes placed on top and then you put the head of a Dalek on top of it and called it a day.

  • @benstevens44
    @benstevens44 3 роки тому +2

    Love & Monsters wasn't ruined by the Abzorbaloff. That was... not great, yeah, but I dunno, the episode could have been just okay if that were the worst part.
    What really ruins it is the very ending where the Doctor condemns poor Ursula to an eternity of existence as what one reviewer described as a "blowjob-dispensing paving stone." Yeah, that's pretty dark, there. Not a good look.

  • @mekkiepoo
    @mekkiepoo 2 роки тому +2

    I loved the next doctor episode... but yes, I would have loved it more if that dude had actually become the next doctor. He was so good! :D

  • @GregNumber
    @GregNumber Рік тому +1

    The whole "Key to Time" season arc with Tom Baker, the first season arc ever in Doctor Who. He spends all season hunting the key only to throw it away at the end.

  • @leahshalek6144
    @leahshalek6144 3 роки тому +2

    In spite of the fat suit and slab joke, Love and Monsters is one of my favorites!

  • @MesserJackII
    @MesserJackII 2 місяці тому

    I come from the future and I can definitely say, that the episode "Empire of Death" has the perfect ending to ruin not just a episode, but a whole season.

  • @lwnasidh
    @lwnasidh 8 місяців тому

    Love saves the day is such a trite plot device anymore. I was just rewatching "Victory of the Daleks" and once again, love saves the world by somehow convincing a walking bomb that he's not a bomb because he remembers having a crush on somebody once.

  • @AdamKyles
    @AdamKyles 3 роки тому +1

    Isn't it nice that no classic stories had terrible endings apparently *cough* Time and the Rani.

  • @giddy1337
    @giddy1337 3 роки тому +3

    I like how Sean (or Shaun) is wearing a sweatshirt with its’ definition on it.

  • @RandallHallKaizenReiki
    @RandallHallKaizenReiki 2 роки тому +2

    You forgot Orphan 55 which was a fine episode that ended in a ridiculous speech.

  • @jeanalptraum1545
    @jeanalptraum1545 3 роки тому +1

    Do you really need to mention the Chibnall era? The whole seasons were disastrous enough and "endings" were just a part of that disaster. The endings alone can't ruin something that's already in shambles 😂😂😂

    • @sparrovicious
      @sparrovicious 3 роки тому +1

      1) Every "Rating" of best to worst or vice versa is bound to be subjective to some degree.
      2) You do realize the difference between not liking something at all and feeling that an ending can ruin something which would have been otherwise enjoyable, right?

    • @jeanalptraum1545
      @jeanalptraum1545 3 роки тому

      @@sparrovicious Yes and Chibnall era was not enjoyable. Thank you for explaining my comment by pointing it out

  • @OswinOsgood
    @OswinOsgood 2 роки тому +3

    This channel must really like Love and Monsters they often featured it in their videos..lol

  • @EverydayJohn931
    @EverydayJohn931 3 роки тому +2

    I honestly think this is just a nit picky list trying to make content rather than actual ruined endings.

  • @l.salisbury1253
    @l.salisbury1253 3 роки тому +1

    What did you think of the ending of the 11th Doctor graphic novel "Assimilation 2"?

  • @amazon4662
    @amazon4662 3 роки тому +1

    I completely agree with the black cubes one. It started off so cool and sinister and then...

    • @cait812
      @cait812 3 роки тому +1

      Wasn't their fault though. The actor for the villain refused to do his job.

  • @AdderTude
    @AdderTude 3 роки тому +1

    That's why Marc Warren looked familiar: he portrayed Albert Blithe in Band of Brothers.

  • @melthoidserendipity1332
    @melthoidserendipity1332 2 роки тому +2

    Love and Monsters...it was like Rassilon's immortality chamber had been built into Peter Kay's stomach...yuck!

  • @zevbleuler6998
    @zevbleuler6998 3 роки тому +2

    Agree with pretty much all except that Love and Monsters was just bad - the momentary gems did very little to save this one from the garbage heap.

  • @RaggedyDoctor11
    @RaggedyDoctor11 3 роки тому +1

    Not that I’m biased, but the Tenth Doctor had some SERIOUS vanity issues. Magic space Jesus? Like, really dude?

  • @MartinInBC
    @MartinInBC 3 роки тому +1

    Love and Monsters is a frustrating episode because the set-up stuff about the Doctor fan group is actually very good. Then: worst monster ever, truly disgusting oral sex joke (remember when uber-censor Mary Whitehouse wanted to protect the kiddies from a Doctor Who episode because Tom Baker's doctor fought someone in a swamp?), but worst of all, the Doctor AND Rose appearing as unfeeling bastards toward Elton, showing apparent complete indifference that a fatmonster has just taken his girlfriend away from him. Honestly, they were both just SO out of character.

  • @kingbouncer1314
    @kingbouncer1314 2 роки тому +2

    Last of the timelords ending was cringy af. And one of the few flaws in RTDs writing. He couldn't kill off Tennant. His doctor should have died. Twice. But he didn't because plot.

  • @peteprime
    @peteprime 3 роки тому +1

    the Last of the Time lords I called theTinkkerbell regeneration..."Clap if you want the Doctor to live"

  • @christhompson8003
    @christhompson8003 3 роки тому +3

    Closing time - I disagree, the episode had quite a few bad points but this part actually made sense and fit in with the cybermen - it was just missing a bit of follow-up.
    Already in Dr who we have seen examples of people overcoming the cybermen by emotion alone, Danny, Yvonne Hartman (in Doomsday), Brigadier and the Doctor himself. All of these were being overtaken as basic cyberman with something like a Cyber-Planner (or similar control unit) presence, in closing time they are looking for someone to convert into their leader meaning that their software/network is vulnerable.
    Meaning that a highly emotional person being added to the central control system (while there is no other active controle system) while at the same time, something triggers a spike of positive emotions would lead to no other outcome. The only thing missing would be a scene about him having something removed, an explanation or a joke about how suddenly he is good with technology/computers
    The cybermen then exploding would be a self destruct failsafe to prevent units from remembering who they are and fighting against the cybermen

  • @Noycey64
    @Noycey64 3 роки тому +5

    The thing I loathe about The Power of Three is the ending when Amy says “…the Shakri didn’t realise what cubed really means. the power of three.”. I just groaned 😣

    • @paulbeardsley4095
      @paulbeardsley4095 3 роки тому

      It’s a terrible line in a mediocre at best episode.

    • @gabe5918
      @gabe5918 3 роки тому

      Just rewatched it. God damn. 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @jimmy_the_squid9456
      @jimmy_the_squid9456 3 роки тому +2

      She might as well have turned to the camera and went "DO YOU GET IT?"

  • @ssrogers427
    @ssrogers427 3 роки тому +3

    Personally, one of the ones that most disappointed me was the one where the fish and sharks were swimming in the air then he ends up riding the shark or something. The science was sounding so cool til the ending was just stupid, in my opinion.

  • @torafuliar3928
    @torafuliar3928 2 роки тому +1

    If you did the best music of Who I nominate "The Eleventh Hour" fantastic intro of the Doctor