fastest GeForce 7950 GT AGP on Core 2 Extreme - RETRO Hardware
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►HARDWARE USED IN THIS VIDEO:
ASROCK 4CoreDual-SATA2 LGA775 chipset VIA PT880 PRO
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 3GHz @ 3.33GHz
OCZ 2x 1GB DDR2 800 @ 533
WINDOWS XP Pro SP3
ForceWare 197.45
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I think that clocks. 7950GT has 450/550 only. I don‘t know why, this is original.
I enjoyed so much with my last AGP card and that was ATI Radeon HD 3850 from Sapphire. I even finish Crysis 2 with very playable 30-40 fps at 1280 x 720 on it. Before it i had HD 2600 XT and X1650 Pro before her. Also many, many more ATI cards because in my country nVidia was and still is very expensive.
2:33 painted face is sad for the capacitors have betrayed him
I like your methodical way of testing everything mate. You don't leave any stones unturned. Please have my immediate like.
I had a lot of these GPU's back in the day... My first was A 6800 gt then 7800 gt, 7900gs, 7950gt for lan builds back in the day.. My XFX 7800gt is still going strong since last run. (needs cooler though) Thanks for excellent video Retro!
Great test again! Good nv 6-7 th series... good memories for me...
excellent video! here in brazil it is difficult even PCI Express cards due to the high price imagine then agp.parabens video cards, direct hug from Itapajé, Ceará - Brazil.
Homi e eu lendo aqui teu comentario direto do ceara xD
GPUZ is sometimes reading the ram bandwidth as double of what it actually is, like on the 6600GT's. It should be 14.4gb/s
I also notice a couple of those 7800GS boards should really be GT boards. They have the same spec as the PCIE 7800GT. It is curious that Gainward would market them like that. The other 7800GS and the BFG verient were all 16 shader units and not 20. Though I think the 20 shader AGP units have fewer ROP's and vertex units? I don't really remember.
@@wishusknight3009 had a Leadtek Winfast factory overclocked 7800 GTX 512mb with twin fans. It was top of the range & Very expensive new according to my mate who I bought it from (in around 2007), I think.
The fastest AGP card I’ve owned is a 6600GT.
Do you recall the ‘bad’ ti4600 cards by Gainwood in around 2004/5 I think? Quite possibly before this time as I had a ti4200 AGP card @ 300/600 iirc ?
I could be mistaken but that Gigabyte card looks identical to the 6600GT I had!!
@@benrogersdevon The GF4 series TI chips were sold as chip and ram together from nvidia. So for a company to supply a ti4200 with 300mhz capable ram they would need to ditch the ram that came in the bundle.
nVidia did that to 'dis-incentivize' companies from just taking binned 4200's and matching them with faster ram to cannibalize 4600 sales.
The 4200's were usually supplied with 500mhz (effective) ram for 64mb versions and 444mhz (?!) ram for 128mb versions. And the ram was often of very low binning. I recall a few companies selling overclocked 4200's at the same price as 4400's though.. lol.
The 4200 128mb I had was never able to see its ram hit 500mhz no matter how hard i tried.. And the chip seemed to putter out around 270ish. My brothers 64mb 4200 was an OEM card and could hit 4400 clocks pretty easily. (275/550) It might have been able to do a bit more but unsure.
@@wishusknight3009 I can’t remember if my ti4200 was a 64mb or 128mb example. I remember clocking it to 300/600 though with riva tuner.
@@benrogersdevon I have no doubt that some could and more. The 64 mb ones were better overclockers as well because of the higher quality ram. I just had a bad example and was rather disappointed with it. I previously had a gForce2 Pro, so the 4200 wasn't quite as big of an upgrade as it was hyped to be. At least I felt that way. It got replaced with a 9700 Pro All-in-wonder almost as soon as it was available and I ran that one for a good 3 years or more.
My brother kept running his 4200 for some time though. He didn't replace it until the 9800Pro's were in their twilight and in the discount bin. It seems like that little bit of extra clock made all the difference. His 4200 also upgraded a TnT2, so it was a huge gain for him. lol
I've got a Leadtek WinFast A360, which is a FX 5700 with 256 Mb VRAM and it is AGP, I love it!
Masterpiece video!
Would like to see more graphs for other games too.
(5:02) - Oh wow, I've never seen a motherboard with both AGP and PCIe-x16 video card slots before!
Amazing !
I notice many of those cards have bulging capacitors
Nice video
i have an old rig way back 10 years ago ati hd3650 1b agp card and asus p5vdc x ddr2 board both have agp and pcie socket combo great setup way back then.
Ah the sound of bad ball bearings.
Would love to see new parts and finals for this video series! I also have the asus 7900gs and would like to know how it compares against yours!
Great video! What do you think about a comparison of these cards in Windows 98 with modded drivers and >1gb RAM patch?
Perhaps try comparing them to their pcie counter part for the ones that have both an AGP and PCI-E version
Once I had a Leadtek Winfast GF 6600 GT like yours, it was a great one.
these videos are sort of an ASMR experience to me, imho they'd be better without background music but I love them anyway
Great video! Absolutely pleasure to watch. And btw, how did you get Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 to work on this Asrock board? What BIOS version does it have? My board has 2.39 bios.
Last original version 2.2. For more rams you need alternative bios.
remind me ..want that setup on early college
Ahhhhhhhhh my happy place. Yeshh
You going to recap those Gainwards?
Maybe in future. Currently from 4 cards, 2 works, one dead, one bad caps which is multiple one. Not easy situation in my storage - I have xxx pieces of HW which need repair :-)
@@RETROHardware :: you LOVE all this older Hardware huh? 👍🏼i wish i could afford one in those days.
Great video. Do you have any idea why 3Dmark 03,05 and 06 identified the CPU as Pentium 3 Xeon?
That Gainward 7800 GS 512 vs Leadtek 7800 GS 256 comparison in Doom 3 is unfair, since the Gainward is in reality a 7900GS with its 20 pixel pipes. Those 4 pipes give more boost than the doubled VRAM.
It's not unfair, it just shows the advantage of more pipelines.
NFS carbon is my all time favorite NFS game, i still have it and complete it 100% story, challenges are so hard
I collect some hardware too. This is my modesty collection: mx440 64, fx 5700, asus 8600 gt 256 silent, iceq radeon x1650 pro 256 mb, his radeon hd4850 512 mb, nvidia quadro 600 1gb, 7900gs 256 mb, 8800gt 515mb, gtx 260, gtx 275, gtx 280, gtx 1060 6 gb asus strix, gtx 1080 gigabyte windforce and the current palit jet stream rtx 2080
belive me, it's better when you send your collection to RETRO Hardware . He know how to clock and benchmark to last blood drop.
I've got some cool cards. Two Voodoo IIs that work, two that don't work. A working Voodoo3 3000 AGP, a Voodoo 5 5500 that doesn't work. A Riva TNT, a Geforce 2 Ti Engineering Sample (!), I have the same 6600GT from 8:06. A Radeon 9250 PCI (excellent card BTW, even though it's only PCI). But yeah I have a bunch of boring old PCIe cards. Actually I have a pair of 8800 GTS 512MBs that I want to SLI in a Socket 775 build some time (for Crysis!). I currently want to get a Voodoo1 build working, can't decide whether to go for Pentium II or Pentium MMX though. And I fancy a Riva TNT2 Ultra! Current build is SLI 1070s. Had XFire R9 280X's before that and XFire 5850s before that. Look after these things guys! They don't make them any more and one day they will be rare. :)
This reminds me that the card I had with an iceberg 4 blue cooler on was a Radeon 4850, which I overclocked.
That GF 6200 could possibly unlock to 6600, since it has the same NV43 GPU.
ahhh memories
I'm amazed at how much mileage i got out of my 6600GT back in the day. It also was more a case where anything from ATI was basically unusable because the drivers were that bad.
I still pine for an agp geforce 7950gt, if not at least a 7900 non-gs. I just can't trust anything from ATI/AMD past x1k because the drivers are a three ring circus act to get working. Even now with the last possible drivers that are supposed to have all the possible bug fixes.
I just finished my dream 2006 build with dual 7950 gx2 cards in quad SLI, I love those cards. I used to have an AGP 7800, but the damn PCIe-to-AGP bridge chip failed on me. Ever since then I've stuck with native AGP only, none of that converter nonsense (none of the cards made after the 6000 series were real AGP, and in fact, a lot of the 6000 series itself used the bridge chip)
Yep these bridges are very hot and needs good cooling, maybe alternative one.
@@LowSpecActionSquad My 7800gs still works, I actually got it to work in Windows 98se lol.
wonder if any if those 6 series cards have unlockable sharers using Riva tuner. a lot of 6600gs an 6800gs sum 6600gt too. had one of those Asus 6600gts an was gutted wen I looked in Riva a gud see those 8 locked shader pipes lol
Interesting, currently I run an MSI 7600GT (512MB) on my P4P800 with Pentium-M 770 @2,4GHz (Asus CT-479 Adapter), but I just bought a Gainward 7800+ (24 Pixel/8 Vertex) and I'm curious about the difference. Your benchmarks will be a good reference.
Класс и контент, и монтаж.
what is the best mobo lga 775 for overclocking QX cpu?
Sapphire X1950 pro paired with a 478 P4, plays NFS Carbon really well, always above 50fps all max settings 1280x1024. I think Nvidia carbs benchmark better but ati cards game better
A good warch over lunch a break. ;)
nvidia 7950 gt agp really was the last AGP card for me, HD 3850 AGP was just silly as it would choke on complex rendering scenes because of the AGP socket.
im like this !
I've got these motherboard and its incredible to try and game with top performance agp cards. Now i'selling it.
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It reminds me when i had 6200 From MSI and with riva tuner i "moded" it to 6600GS, fps difference was not that huge but still i got like 50-60% i believe.
where do u get all this hardware
Wow, amazing i can't wait the others videos, hurry, God saved your collection. Lol
What is the fastest 3.3V compatible AGP card?
I like this motherboard.
I love socket 775
there were core2, ddr2 supporting boards with agp slots? i never knew. even my old socket 939 that only supported ddr had a pcie slot.
It was rare but such MBs existed. I think it existed only because of people with late AGP GPU didn't have money for whole new PC and they wanted use at least GPU, but it was very stupid for the future bying such motherboard. But late AGP card were very bottlenecked with socket 478 so with some C2D, you still could play modern games with AGP until maybe 2009.
Those 7800 and 7900 cards are insane. I wonder how much further they could have pushed the AGP slot.
Most of late motherboards with AGP slot had socket 478 and with some Pentium 4, already 7600GT was bottlenecked, so making even better AGP GPUs makes no sense. MBs with sc 775 (or AM2) for dual cores had already PCI-e always. Combination of sc 775 and AGP slot is rare and weird.
I remember one more game for testing - stalker - call of chernobyl
Come ati radeon 7950 e8400 and windows 98se.
good
Good 7XXX GT
How many epic GPUs do you need?....All of them 🤯🤣
7950 was hot an slow
What is that clicking sound when you turn on the PC? I have the same thing on some motherboards.
I don‘t know :-) maybe some relay onboard.
Retro hardware is Toms Hardware isnt?
most legend video, 5Ghz Project in 2003
i dunno if its the cards but nfs carbon looks just awful
edit: thanks for the benchmark list at the end. i just bought a 7950 gt 512mb (pci-e) and happy to see that it will perform nicely in the doom 3 engine. 6800gt just not good enough :)
How comes the 7800 512mb beats the 7950? 😮
Hi! If you want - I can try to fix thoose cards!
Krásně by se k těm GeForce 7 hodila Ageia PhysX 128MB PCI. Pak na tom spustit Mirror's Edge, Batman Arkam Asylum, Medal of Honor: Airborne, Unreal Tournament III apod. Prostě hry podporující PhysX. Teoreticky i třeba MAFIA II, alespoň by bylo zajímavé, jestli a jak to rozjede.
No AGP video card with 1 gigabytes ?
1st videocard change the capacitors, those have burst or in any case when they swell they must be changed.
Phenom 2 👌😂
I'm playing serious sam on a intel atom netbook, no graphic card needed. Play smoothly
Just for reference, those Asrock motherboards are trash for those CPUs.
I had 5 of them different models none of them made those CPUs perform well enough compared to other brands/chipsets.
Once i installed an Asus PQ5(P45) with the same CPU(Intel C2Q Q6700) i kid you not i had +20 FPS on Witcher 3, then added an Asus sound card to take the load from the CPU because the CPU was getting 100% loaded so heavily in that game back in 2015 and i got a massive +15 FPS.
Before all this, i have that CPU with an Asrock 4CoreDual-Sata2 but it has an Nvidia 650i chipset, and with integrated sound card i was getting around 16 FPS, so after the motherboard and sound card upgrade i went to 50ish FPS that is absolutely nuts!
GPU at the time was a GTX 660.
I am not even gonna mention the fact that, that asus mobo, before i killed it because i am a moron, it allowed me to get a 24/7 3.785GHz on that CPU which made the system so much more snappier and even Witcher got 8 more FPS.
I could reproduce the results any time and i tried to confirm them and it was happening all the time.
XfX 7600gt AGP needs reflow
Is it normal that thé 7900 gs is faster than the 7950 gt ? I expected the opposite...
Maybe because of internal sli
still dont understand why people like nvidia
since my early days of computing I have used ATI now run by amd and used asus exclusively after 2004 I have never run into cooling problems or hardware malfunctions...never used intel processors after my first amd in 2004
no boot problems, no hiccups while running
now in 2019 I run a 6 core phenom with 16 GB of corsair memory ( not kingston which is what I prefer)....on an asus crosshair V with a asus amd 4GB GPU
havent run into anything that slows it down
4 thumbs down....Must be from CrApple Mac users.
Your score in 3D 2005 looks too low for C2D, I had more than 5000 with Celeron D (socket 478) and 7600GT AGP. Now I have some Pentium 4 (socket 478 prescott) and with radeon X1950 I have more than 7000 in 05. But I think 3D 05 can't really use more than single core CPU.
LEADTEK 7800 GS 256MB is really underperforming.
Are u sure the GPU is sustaining the clocks? Maybe its overheating. Or has some power delivery problem.
You should change caps on that cards.
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Why do you test such old games on so powerfull cards? Why do not you test for exampte - CoD4 mw or even better CoD MW2, Dead Space, Tomb Raider 2013, Stalker (either cop or soc) on DYNAMIC lighting renderer, Battlefield Bad Company 2, Amnesia the dark descent, Alice madness returns, or lets say - Condemned (uses fear engine buy far much more details on maps). Those are only small part of the games a usualy play to test MY AGP cards on my favourite P4 641)
Yes, i never use anisotrophy, eny smoothing, or even trilinear filtering, some games i play in 640 x 480 but i always have all the shaders ON, textures set to HIGH and at least Medium shadows on. This gives the prety sharp picture and high performance, even on 6600 128mb for most of the games.
You could only overclock that CPU to 3,3 GHz? I guess the motherboard is pretty bad.
Asus Commando, BIOSTAR TPower I45, or some DFI boards could take this CPU to 4,0 GHz I think.
Point is board with AGP slot.
why 7950 gt isnt the fastest ?
Because lower clocks.
if all cards would be overclocked to maximum, would be 7950 fastest?
It has 24:8:24:16 core config, while 7900 GS. 20:7:20:16