The Origin of the Prowler
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- Опубліковано 31 бер 2023
- History of the Marvel Universe No. 214
Hobie Brown, The Original Prowler
Sources:
The Ultimate Prowler first appeared in
‣ Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man 001 (2011)
Hobie Brown first appeared in
‣ Amazing Spider-Man 078 (1969)
Hobie's childhood was glimpsed in
‣ Prowler 003 (1995)
Tiger Brown's death was depicted on
‣ Spectacular Spider-Man Annual 012 (1992)
Abe Brown first appeared in
‣ Deadly Hands of Kung Fu 001 (1974)
Hobie witnessed Daredevil fight Stilt-Man in
‣ Punisher: War Journal 004 (2007)
Hobie becomes the Prowler
‣ Amazing Spider-Man 078-079 (1969)
Hobie impersonates Spider-Man
‣ Amazing Spider-Man 087 (1970)
George Stacy dies in
‣ Amazing Spider-Man 090
Hobie becomes the Prowler again
‣ Amazing Spider-Man 093 (1971)
The Prowler versus the White Tiger
‣ Deadly Hands of Kung Fu 020-021 (1976)
The Origin of the White Tiger
‣ Deadly Hands of Kung Fu 019 (1976)
Defender for a day
‣ Defenders 062-063 (1978)
The Cat Burglar first appears
‣ Amazing Spider-Man 030 (1965)
The Cat poses as the Prowler
‣ Spectacular Spider-Man 047-048 (1980)
Hobie becomes the Prowler yet again
‣ Amazing Spider-Man 304-305 (1988)
He meets Rocket Racer and Silver Sable
‣ Web of Spider-Man 050 (1989)
He designed the glider wings in
‣ Spectacular Spider-Man Annual 009 (1989)
He trained under Abe Brown in
‣ Spectacular Spider-Man Annual 010 (1990)
The Outlaws
‣ Spectacular Spider-Man 168-170 (1990)
‣ Excalibur 036 (1991)
‣ Amazing Spider-Man Annual 025 (1991)
‣ Spectacular Spider-Man Annual 011 (1991)
‣ Web of Spider-Man Annual 007 (1991)
Prowler's solo adventures
‣ Amazing Spider-Man 365 (1992)
‣ Spectacular Spider-Man Annual 012-013 (1992-1993)
‣ Web of Spider-Man Annual 010 (1994)
‣ Prowler 001-004 (1995)
The Vulture's feud with Bestman
‣ Amazing Spider-Man 240-241 (1983)
The Great Game and Rick Lawson
‣ Spider-Man Unlimited 014 (1996)
‣ Sensational Spider-Man 015-018 (1997)
The Saga of the Hornet
‣ Sensational Spider-Man 025-028 (1998)
‣ Slingers (1998-1999)
‣ Wolverine 023 (2005)
‣ All-New Wolverine Annual 001 (2016)
‣ Ben Reilly: The Scarlet Spider 008-013 (2017-2018)
More Prowler adventures
‣ Ms. Marvel 006 (2006)
‣ Amazing Spider-Man 001-005 (2015-2016)
‣ Amazing Spider-Man 017 (2016)
‣ The Clone Conspiracy (2016-2017)
‣ Prowler (2016-2017)
‣ Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man 007-010 (2019)
‣ King in Black: Planet of the Symbiotes 002 (2021)
Spider-Punk
‣ Spider-Verse 002 (2015)
‣ Edge of Spider-Geddon 001 (2018)
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Says something of the character of this era, that in the 60's inventors where everywhere and applicative science was so common that you'd ahve these figures like Stilt Man and Shocker, pulling up and creating stuff almost like the dad in Gremlins. Or, an actual common dad who can use his hands AND brain.
BUT NOW you ahve to use characters ike The Tinkerer in Homecoming, to EXCUSE that people cant imagine that a common slob would actually MAKE something. Except of course with anxious scaremongering about pipe bombs, THOSE can be a spoooky alterative to a weapon, like OWNing something is the only measure of your usefuluness or danger to sociey.
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Oh, I had no idea that Spider Punk/Hobbie Brown was at all connected to the Prowler. That actually makes his relationship with Miles in spidervers a lot more interesting.
Hobie brown was the prowler way before spider punk
Hobie brown is prowler in Peter B Parker's universe (earth 616)
Which is the prime universe of marvel and is the same as our universe
Hobie brown is the OG prowler and Peter B is the OG Spiderman
@FAHADEEZ peter B is from earth 616B. The comcis are Earth 616A
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@@spider-cam8414 Yeah but him beeing spider-punk also makes a lot of sense as hoobie is always depicted as a more vigilant (or you could say punk) parallel to peter, he's a brilliant young man with no luck and girl friend that love him but is often sick of is bullshit.
The best part is when Hobie starts making his workplace a safer environment both for him and his colleagues, introducing better safety equipment.
Good on him 😊
This is one of my favorite origins from this era. As a person of color, everything about it, especially the realization that a black man could be Spider-Man under the costume stuck with me. Anyone can be a hero if people give them a chance.
Was blue marvel a part of this Era? It hit me hard when I heard in some story that jfk himself asked if black marvel would stand down as a hero because he was black and it was causing more civil unrest. I think anyway
I'm saying I'm not sure if that happened in the 60s or if it was more modern but flashed back in time ya know?
@@savageshot3723 , the character Blue Marvel had not been yet invented in the 60s, but in his (fictional) history, he would have been around at this time. Of course, this gets all mixed up as Marvel characters histories are revised as time goes on. For instance, Tony Stark was in the Vietnam War, so he should be like 70 or 80 now, but as time moves forward it changed to the Gulf War, etc. So now, instead of being around the same age as Prowler, he should be like 50 years older.
@Tim Ross Appreciate the response. Keep it real
@@savageshot3723 , ah ok it was flashed back. Blue Marvel was a hero when President Kennedy was in office, but the first Blue Marvel story was written this century.
I really admire Hobbie more than I realize, a theme of his relationship to the prowler as a persona is really the betterment of himself and his community and the protection of those he loves he’s always shown up for Peter a very honorable man
It is incredibly interesting how the original Hobbie Brown character weaves in with Peter Parker's history in so many ways, but also ties in to others like White Tiger, The Defenders, etc.
And now Spider-Punk, which in turn ties Hobbie to the Spider-verse film series and its happenings, and subsequently Miles Morales (well, even more so than the Prowler identity was already).
...Superhero comics, yay!
There are actually two spidey Hobbie, Spider-Hero, which I think it was from either a What If? or it happen in a Spider-Man comic, I only know about it due to the Spider-Man Unlimited mobile game, and Spider-Punk, who appeared in the Spider-Verse comic event and was brutal, bash a grunt head in with his guitar with full strength
makes the fact that he caught the donald glover prowler in the movie
I can see why miles was connected to the prowler now. The prowler was never meant to be a villain
I never knew The Prowler existed before the Ultimate Universe. Hobbie Brown seems like a much better and complicated character than when Aaron Davis had the Prowler mantle.
Not exactly a super hero, and initially a bit selfish regarding the origin of the Prowler and reputation, he did numerous selfless acts, and is a good person trying to get by and take care of the people he loves or have helped him.
I hope they take this approach for Miles Prowler in Beyond The Spiderverse. Miles didn't seem really to be a bad guy outright, but could serve as more as a anti-hero. Someone who fights againts villians for more personal and maybe selfish reasons, instead of a more moral and righteous angle our Miles has.
A deleted scene from across the spider verse kinda shows that, hopefully it's the opening to beyond the spider verse. It was probably removed to keep prowler miles mysterious though.
You forgot the grand conclusion of the Prowler's story. Brown finally retires the costume for good and opens a small retail store that he eventually grows into a national chain: Hobie Lobby.
That was terrible. I love it.
So basically the prowler was never meant to be a spiderman villan, but more like a misunderstood hero
Yep though it's going back full circle...The Insomniac games have him as Grey and the Spider-Verse films morality themes will most likely have that second version of Prowler either become a Hero/Anti-Hero or they're in fact already are...While a variant of Hobie is their ally. Full Circle.
The other conclusion they should make is including the Animated 90's Spidey within the films because not only was the OG Prowler within it the final storyline was the very first example of the Spider-Verse concept the idea to bring together alternate reality versions of Spider-Man together...Which went on to inspire the games that inspired the comics that inspired these animated films.
There is no Spider-Verse without Animated 90's and it can be another link to the Prowler full circle...If that variant of Prowler also shows up alongside his Spidey. Truly full circles within circles if they did that and it was the plan from the start.
@@flamesofchaos13 not sure if i understand all that but ok
To me he's one of Marvel's coolest street level heroes. Hobie Brown the Prowler is just an overall interesting character. It was so cool to see an iteration of the character appear in the 90's TAS
What a genuinely touching relationship spidey and prowler have....
I loved how sympathetic Peter was towards him, it's so Spider-Man.
2:57 I love how JJJ defends Hobie, that’s very wholesome ❤
Everyone only remembers his hate and slander of Spider-Man but JJJ is an award winning Journalist and is extremely good at what he does and is a very good man. He covered the Civil Rights movement, he helped expose and take down the Maggia in a few continuities. People rolled their eyes when in the PS4 game Jameson says that he’s a man of the people and does what he does out of love for New York. It might have some ego behind it but he’s not a liar. Even his mistrust of Spider-Man comes from a genuine place Spider-Man is a vigilante and answers to no one, every time he fights villains property gets destroyed and people can get hurt, because he wears a mask he never has to answer for those incidents. JJJ doesn’t trust anything Spider-Man does because of how much of a spectacle Spider-Man makes everything.
@@Broomer52 Yeah there's plenty of moral and logical nuance to JJJ. He's just a bit overly paranoid and hostile to Spider-Man...Obsessed with trying to prove he's more of a detriment than a benefit.
Which the truth is Spidey can and has been both, It's not always easy to define when he's one or the other or both at the same time. We know for a fact alternate reality versions of Peter/Spidey sometimes prove JJJ's worst fears correct...There are Evil, Power Hungry, Corrupt versions of Peter whose only difference is their environments. Some of them literally just had one bad day...If that doesn't show people that yeah JJJ fears aren't entirely illogical that he does in fact make logical assessments in-between the ramblings I don't know what will.
I love that Insomniac Spidey specifically automatically has JJJ's podcast programmed to play in both his and Miles suits...Because Peter is smart enough to realize he's not always right and his view isn't the only one that matters and that at the end of the day JJJ is in fact keeping Spider-Man honest and transparent through constructive criticism.
Also in the comics of Mainline 616 and the Ultimate 1610 both versions of JJJ eventually come to realize and admit that Spider-Man is a Hero that has done more good than harm.
-It took Ultimate JJJ seeing Peter try to save lives in an apocalyptic event where lives couldn't be saved literally thousands upon thousands dead... Ultimate Peter collecting corpses instead of survivors risking his life in the process trying desperately hopelessly to save anyone and everyone. During it JJJ realizes he's nothing but a Hero...Years down the line when Goblin is seeking to kill Peter JJJ gives his life trying to protect and save Peter/Spidey.
-Mainline Peter finally had enough with the rivalry and revealed his identity to JJJ who is shocked then explains in full detail why he hates masks and vigilantism...How his life has fallen to ruin and the only thing he has left to live for is his obsession with Spidey to keep him regulated and grounded to reality in some small way. Peter and JJJ hash it out all on the table every grievance and more importantly every respect they have for one another. It ends with Peter telling him he's not alone as he is his family (literally they became family through marriage) and JJJ promises to keep Peter identity a secret. Knowing he's Parker has settled his doubts and fears.
JJJ when he realizes the truth is Pro-Spidey is willing to admit when he's wrong. He is not a bad guy it's not that simple.
It also kind of makes his subsequent confrontation with spider man make more sense, he probably values Jamison’s word after JJ sticks up for him, so he’d take to heart JJ calling him a menace
Gotta love the non-powered guy that just plucks up his courage and dives into it.
Funny how hobbie brown is also spider man in another universe
I just love the relationship between spider-man and Hobbie Brown. One that cannot be replicated by Aaron Davis
Hobie's origin is probably my favourite of all the Spider-Man villains because of how he's basically just Peter if he went down the wrong path. I also love the redemption he had too. He's such an underrated character.
Thats litteraly 90% of spiderman's rouges gallery lmao.
@@cfinegan8088 That literally isn't true lol, did you even read his origin? Most other villains had nothing in common.
@@PsychoMagnetI think they mean the idea that they're what Peter would be if he wasn't morally good or if the villains were responsible. Which to an extent it's true...We've seen examples of Sandman, Prowler, Doc Ock and Electro do good things if given character development and a chance. Others however like Goblin and Carnage not so much.
@@flamesofchaos13 Well yeah but you can say that for a lot of superhero villains. With Hobie specifically he had a similar life to Peter with similar problems, especially being broke and an unfortunate background. He wasn't anyone special like Norman or Otto before their change, he was just a normal guy like Peter who made the wrong choice when given power instead of being someone like Spider-Man.
@@PsychoMagnet I don't know if Peter was a regular guy...Powerless and Broke/Poor yes but didn't he have his super genius intellect even before the spider bite? If that's the case he was special in the same way as Otto and Norman and Adrian and Conners. But yes Hobie is even more a parallel hence why he became an ally and hero much sooner than the others.
Everyone always says Spider-Man has the best rogues gallery but I think he has the best group of lesser known supporting heroes. Hobie and Peter really have a long lasting relationship.
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I second the vote on Battlestar. A great character who deserves more.
@@summonersumnerus4364 Battlestar's one of my favorites. I liked him working with Walker, and I liked his time with Silver Sable even if most of that comic was weird. Some interesting stuff, some poor attempts to do the whole social issues stuff that just came off as like, an alien trying to understand our various 'isms through a smudged lens. I also liked his return in Priest's USAgent mini, even if that mini felt a bit rushed.
Spider-Man definitely does not have the best rogues gallery
8:14 canon event
Hobie Brown was the Original Prowler in universe 616, Spider Punk in 138, and is featured in the Spiderverse movies as Spider Punk.. Man, give me that Prowlerverse movie where Hobie fights Hobie and Miles fights Miles/w Aaron Davis.
I had no idea his history was so varied and interesting. I want more of him!
Love that J Jonah Jamison stood up for him
This is interesting because I didn't know that the original Prowler Hobie Brown and Abe Brown of the Son of the Tiger were brothers.
This is why I love your channel because you uncover facts about comic characters I've known about for years but don't know their full back stories.
Damn, what a grounded and nuanced backstory for the first Prowler. Marvel just doesn’t write like this anymore.
Imagine if he actually took JJ's bullshit and stayed at The Daily Bugle. Him and Peter would have def started working together at some point on gadgets.
¨I never had any respect for any member of the establishment- uniformed or not¨ sounds like such a spider-punk line
Could you imagine being an innocent bystander and almost dying in a stiltman fight lol
The way Hobie kept getting his outfit stolen like bro 💀
I feel bad for Earth-616 Hobie Brown because the Spider-Verse movies keep stealing his identities.
How is it stealing if they're from a different universe?
A spidey variant of Hobie will be known more than the original. But I like this version better.
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this was an amazing video
Thanks for the video
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Thank you for making such informative videos!
Excellent as usual, even with characters I don‘t care about ;-) I cannot imagine how much work this must be to put all these infos together in a video, respect.
Commend the Hard work 👍
You did a good job on this recap
Thank you, man! Hobbie Brown is one of my fav character from spidey universe
Thanks for the great video. His origin was quite interesting 😎😎😎😎
HOBIE A GOAT IN ANY UNIVERSE
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Great video! I always liked Hobbie Brown!
My brother's favorite superhero, bar none. So I love him
i love that spiderpunk is also named Hobie Brown
8:20 cannon event
The og canon event
Every thing around surrounding this character from the name to the miles morales universe made it seem like he was a a semi important devious super villain. Just to find out he's just a bro lmao.
What would have happened if Hobie Brown Prowler appeared in any of the animated Spider-Man series? Would it be awesome to see him fight alongside Spider-Man?
He appeared in the 90s Spider-Man cartoon (the good one).
He does! As a spiderman unfortunately but yeah he does in the new movie :)
He was in the spectacular Spider-Man show and eventually I’m sure if they did have all 5 seasons they would’ve had him as the prowler
Hobie Brown Prowler actually showed up in 2017's Marvel's Spiderman cartoon in Season 2, that's the most recent appearance of Hobie I can tag as Prowler
He did in the 90s show
Rocket racer is the reason that big wheel exists
I like hobbie brown way better than Aaron Davis
You could call him the ‘superior’ Prowler
CAP he ain't better than Davis
In a vacuum, I'd probably agree, but not within the context of the stories. Davis is a much more meaningful character.
I like the parallel between them it makes both of them so much better
Aaron Davis is from the trenches of nyc. Was defo doing drills in his young days.
Wait so the spider punk and Miles have both been the prowler 😅
Seems Prowlers make great Spider-Men.
Love love love the video, as always!
I always thought it was long O Hobie, like Moby?
I think that's what it is to. That's the way I've always read it anyway.
Yes it should be HOE-Bee, just like Mitch's son on Baywatch
Yes, that's right. This guy's pronouncing it wrong.
I think this is the third time I had to re-subscribe to this channel. Good stuff here. I am a huge fan of Hobbie, loved to see anything about him. Would it be possible to do something with a Marvel character named Crimebuster, the one with a green suit with a pod and a gun. That would be killer.
One of my favorite characters growing up. Now there's another version of the character for a new generation. Diggit.
So nobody’s gonna talk about how both Prowler and Spider-Punk are Hobie Brown?
Gwen, Uncle Ben, Aunt May, Flash, MJ all have multiversal variants that became Spider-People. Even Norman freaking Osborn is a Spider-Man in another reality! Doc Ock in both the main timeline and alternate reality both. Why not Hobie too?
Kinda sucks that thx to the popularity of miles prowler we will never get hobbies prowler
Never say never
In my version, the relationship between Prowler (Hobie Brown) and Miles Morales is based on Piccolo's relationship with Gohan from Dragon Ball.
"We've got Prowler 'round here!"
two words.....Impressive...and Wow!!!
A video on the Slingers sounds like a good idea.
I know you’re probably busy, but I would love to see my favorite marvel character slapstick get his own video. I feel like he’s under rated and need to be discussed by someone like you.
I never knew ANY of this about the prowler! We need a spiderverse movie about THIS prowler ❤
1:48 won't be the last time he made this remark after being member of an establishment
Wow, I'm shocked at the parallels of an alternate version of the prowler in the prime marvel universe (hobie brown) becoming spiderman to the nephew of the prowler becoming spiderman in another universe (miles morales). And then an alternate version of miles becoming the prowler. Full circle
Can you do history of the characters mentioned in this video? Are you going to do history of Aaron Davis the Prowler?
Nice!
~_~
I did not look in your past videos yet, but I wonder if you have already attempted Wolverine’s history ;-) this would for sure be a complicated one if you want to make sense of everything !
One suggestion from me, I would love to see the SHIELD‘s history, including the Hickman origins with Newton and the others, up to Nick Fury being the Watcher‘s secretary now…
ua-cam.com/video/E9BRnMfiDf4/v-deo.html there you go buddy.
Has a 30 minute video on his origin
I love this story
wow I remember him from the defenders issues but didn't know his complicated back story
Aaron Davis Spiderverse < Aaron Davis Marvels Spider-Man Miles Morales
He deserves his own series
I remember seeing this guy on Spider-Man friend or foe when I was a child
Wow a synchronicity I’m actually in Cambodia for a bit maybe it’s a sign to make comics again I was just thinking about it.
I can’t believe that the prowler used to be a hero
8:14 Bro that's a Canon Event
Can you do history of the Living_Brain, the Elementals, Cyclone, Hydro Man, Molten Man, the Spot, Sandman, Rom_the_Spaceknight, Stingray, Quasar, Starbrand, Nightmask, Ava Ayala the White Tiger, Crossfire, Living Laser, Century, Lore and Technovore?
When spiderpunk was the prowler
Man I miss 616 hobie brown, he hasn’t really shown up in forever especially as the prowler I like Aaron and prowler but hobie was just as cool and it would be cool if he came back as an ally to Peter, hell maybe him an Aaron could both be prowler like how both miles and Peter are spider-man, but that won’t happen, man I miss hobie as prowler🥲
Todd McFarlane's panels show so much Spawn It's crazy. I love it.
I would love to see hobby Brown and Erin Davis confront each other while they're both the prowler since you know the continuity kind of made it where Aaron Davidson Miles Morales family are now in the main continuity and it's just like hey I'm the prowler and you're the prowler it'll be really cool to kind of see your battle between them and then you can have like miles like trying to figure out which one is his uncle because they both wearing the same prowler costume that would be amazing
Can you do history of Ironheart, Amatsu-Mikaboshi, Arno_Stark Iron Man, Squirrel_Girl, Constrictor, Deathlok, Amadeus_Cho, the Griever, Pepper Potts AKA Rescue and the Agents of Atlas along with Crescent, Morgan_Le_Fey, White Fox and Luna Snow?
I hate Nick Spencer for killing off Constrictor.
Is Hobie Brown version of the Prowler more of a Vigilante than a villain unlike Aaron Davis, Who's better? What would happen if those two met each other?
Hobbie Brown Spider Punk ftw 🔥🔥
Sweet
Finally The prowler Gets the Spotlight 👍🏿⭐👍🏿⭐👍🏿⭐👍🏿⭐
What do you think is the best thing about Hobie_Brown as the Prowler in the Comics compared to Aaron Davis? Which one of his powers and abilities do you think is the best?
Was not expect Hobie to be the original Prowler, the more you know.
I miss Hobie
Can you do history of the Elementals(Hellfire, Magnum, Hydron and Zephyr), Bastion, Master Mold, Nimrod, Inferno, Zora_Vukovic Victorious, Night Nurse, Moondragon, Phyla_Vell and Genis-Vell along with the Supreme Intelligence, Puppet_Master, Diablo, Mole_Man and Angel/Archangel along with Exodus and Ex-Nhilo?
His name is hobie not hobby it’s like spider punk, because he is
What do you think Hobie Brown would be like if he appeared in the Armor Wars movie since he was involved with Justin Hammer in the Comics? Can you do history of Justin Hammer?
I really dont get why Bendis made Aaron Davis Miles' Uncle. It was the first time the Prowler was used in the Ultimate universe and Bendis could have easily made it Hobby Brown, that way when Miles joined 616 hed inherit some interesting plot since peter and his uncle have a history
Imagine if Miles Dad and Hobby did the hero v fake villain thing together and Hobby played the villain before things went south
So midlate 70s it hurts- but it’s great 😂
I wonder if Hobi Brown exists in the MCU Universe? A cameo, ala Isiah Bradley, would be great. Given that there are plans to introduce the White Tiger? Hobi's brother Abe would be a nice touch down the road. Since he was connected with the original character and both were Defenders. At one point.
So when are you going to do history of Zora_Vukovic Victorious since you did the history of Dr_Doom?
Can you do history of Master Pandemonium, Sleepwalker, D'Spayre, Chthon, Mephisto, Black heart, Dormammu, Clea, Nightmare and Pkzkrfmknna along with Firestar and Vance_Astrovik AKA Justice?
Are you going to do history of Ironheart, M'Baku, Namora, Attuma and Shuri as the Black Panther since they played a major role in the Black Panther Wakanda Forever movie?
The original spawn ! Lol thanks Todd!
That explains alot now. Spawn was just the prowler with hell powers holy shit.
Wait so the first prowler is spider punk in an alternative universe ? Wow
Can you add the sandman Flint Marko to the channel please?
Hoabie Brown = green and purple
Aaron Davis = blue and purple
Miles Morales = black and purple
Purple and Purple is up for grabs tho