Have you figured out this yet? I tried the same and this is what I found: 1. Try indoor tinywhoop simulator (velocidrone micro pack is very good) first. 2. Find the throttle hover point and use throttle expo, it helps a lot! 3. Leave the rates alone, slow rates will make the quad slow to react in tiny space. 4. Only very small input at a time. 5. You can fly indoor acro easily (slow or fast) in a course (around the room, across the room, etc) like in those cinematic videos, even if the room is small. BUT it is so difficult and almost impossible to fly the very small and tight gaps indoor like flying slalom under the table, split S in the chair, etc (angle is the only way to do that). Eventhough I remove the airmode, the weird air suction is still happen if I want to enter a very tiny gap in a very hard maneuver. I have tried my best but just afraid that I tortured my quad too much so I stop trying and conclude it that way that there is a limit of what acro can do. I am a total newbie but that is what I found and I hope this helps 🙂
AH man, so glad that you post this. I thought it was just me :D. I have the Vision40 Walksnail version (also Mobula 7 frame) and have pretty much the same result.
Fun flights and crashes. I'm learning to fly Acro on a Mobula8 and in Sims (mostly Tryp) and am absolutely loving it. For now, for indoors I'm sticking to sims. For outside I'm starting with fields. I hope to then move to playgrounds. And if that is successful, maybe I'll try in more crowded spaces like my house (although I'm sure the cats wouldn't be too happy about it).
Yeah man. Youll get there i got a Mobula7 1s ERS, very similiar really just smaller than yours, and i fly that thing over all over the place now. I started using the same method and after like a week or two my videos were soo much better. I mean im not freestyle pro or anything yet but i can fly it around well and do the regular tricks like rolls and flips. I actually just put a video up of it on my chanel. i put Bluejay ESC firmware on it as well. Did that come with BLHeli_S or Bluejay from the factory do you know? Its even fine in the wind, really not that bad. I love this little thing lol. Its so fun going thru small gaps now like through some smaller obstacles outside before i really try them with my 5" lol.. Also because theyre so durable in crashes being plastic and able to fllex i guess.. Havent broken anything yet but she will prob need a set of new props eventually theyre alittle nicked up, theyre all still original somehow lol... I just turtle mode it and im back off flying again lol. It flies great in Acro mode on the stock tune, so make sure to save it at least as a backup in case you want to go back.
@@slimsqde7397 For outdoors, I assume? HD or Analog? Analog: it's amazing. HD w/O3 it's over-weighted and requires a lot of throttle to catch. For cinematic it still works well, just not really a freestyle quad. I fly a Meteor65 (analog) indoors which is a ton of fun - I'm participating in RaceGOW season 2. I'm waiting on a Mobula6 2024, which I think I'm ready for, which has more performance. I spent a lot of time early on with an Analog Meteor75 at the playground (in light wind). For a first quad (all analog), a Mobula7, Meteor75, Meteor75 Pro, or Mobula8 are all pretty great. For indoor the Mobula6 or Meteor65. For crossover, probably the Meteor75. I've more-or-less replaced my Mob8+O3 with a Pavo25 V2+O3, which is a LOT more powerful, but also quite fast (I wouldn't necessarily suggest it as a first quad). Start in the simulator.
@Dorff_Meister thanks for the response, anolog and outdoors, im trying to keep it budget. and i got some los practice with a self leveling quad, hubsan x4 h107. also have some practice in the sim, just dont have the money right now but hopefully in a few months i can get somethinh
@@808TRK for sure! I was even worse than this video at the start and I'm not too much better now honestly. Tiny whoops are way harder to fly than 3-5" drones which is why I moved away from them for a while to get a feel for larger drones in acro first.
Ya, like that... Thanks for posting it, your flying improved all throughout! Reminds me of when I flew an eachine e-013, flying under furniture gives a fun perspective, like being real small. Only mine was being hunted by 2 young cats and get carried off as prey, haha!
Ive got about 7 hours on DRL with an XBOX One controller. I can pretty reliably make the drone go where I want it to. I just ordered my Tinyhawk 3 Freestyle, and I'll also use the Elrs Emax controller to practice more in the Sim. I'm so excited!
Recently chopped up a plant in my livingroom and it made a mess. Props, drone and wall were covered in mushy, green plantmatter. Was a pain to wipe it off of the white painted wall
This video really shows the steep learning that's required. One question : were you providing only yaw inputs or yaw+roll inputs to make turns? I've heard that acro mode automatically provides some coordinated roll inputs along with your yaw inputs so that you don't have to provide any manual roll. I'm yet to learn acro mode, hence the question.
Thank you!! I’m flying the Mobula 7 1s HD - I just got the regular Mobula 7 1s version the other day too… which is lighter but doesn’t film in HD. Gonna post an edit from it soon, it’s soooo much more controllable.
@@808TRK Cool. I'm just now getting into ExpressLRS and am looking for a Whoop that has it. The only two that I own now are an old Blade Inductrix and a Mobula6 on Crossfire.
@@pekwalker hi, I have meteor 75 and it is ok. Previously I had Cetus Pro which is a trash, meteor is much better. The only issue is with loose plug between vtx and AIO, I plan to solder it.
Mobula 6 HD right? Looks about right but it honestly looks like auto level is your flight mode not acro. Or your not aware how much a turn can be tightened by rolling with your turns, again it looks auto leveled.
@@808TRK cool beans, right little space, it's a trip. What frequency are your esc running at? Seems pretty stock by the sound, jesc and 48000 makes a huge diff, I also find it xpo curve tuning for yaw and roll contribute greatly to whoop flying.
It would have been much easier if he would have turned off the fan on the ceiling which produces a lot of downwind and turbulences and makes flying even harder.
Ha. Yeah. It’s always on. Still is and I fly all around it now. Turning it off would not have made me a good pilot back then. Stick time is everything.
@@808TRK was more thinking about the specific layout, with windowless kitchen, having a hole to the living room in exactly that place. But yes, cheap buildings from the same time frame are probably looking similar all over the world.
@@DANDO-DS lol. Meaning I edited it too be all crashes. It’s tongue in cheek. It’s also a long time ago. Don’t need your help on how many fingers my sticks demand. 😆
You taking off and crashing in the first 3 seconds has to be the most real thing I've ever seen lol
That sound is giving me flashbacks to the dentist's chair. 😆
@@DodgyDaveGTX ahahha 🦷
Have you figured out this yet? I tried the same and this is what I found:
1. Try indoor tinywhoop simulator (velocidrone micro pack is very good) first.
2. Find the throttle hover point and use throttle expo, it helps a lot!
3. Leave the rates alone, slow rates will make the quad slow to react in tiny space.
4. Only very small input at a time.
5. You can fly indoor acro easily (slow or fast) in a course (around the room, across the room, etc) like in those cinematic videos, even if the room is small. BUT it is so difficult and almost impossible to fly the very small and tight gaps indoor like flying slalom under the table, split S in the chair, etc (angle is the only way to do that). Eventhough I remove the airmode, the weird air suction is still happen if I want to enter a very tiny gap in a very hard maneuver. I have tried my best but just afraid that I tortured my quad too much so I stop trying and conclude it that way that there is a limit of what acro can do.
I am a total newbie but that is what I found and I hope this helps 🙂
Yeah I’ve got it all down now watch some of my newer videos. Acro only. Never fly angle.
@@808TRKah okaay. I will check that out!
The awards for the most entertaining but annoying video on earth
Hahaha. My job here is done. ✅
I love the fact that you just disarm it when you slightly bumb into something.
So skittish when I started. Still sometimes I do it if I know I’m a goner, just shut it off and let it fall lol.
I do that too I need to stop… it’s a very bad habit and that’s how it breaks…
If you have a cat, a girlfriend with super long hair or a dog shedding hair this is the way to go my friend
it screams like hell if i don't disarm immediately
Sad but this IS REALITY RIGHT HERE lol coming from DJI drones, this was exactly my experience going tiny!
Yup the learning cliff is no joke. Went from like dji to angle to acro and it was a mess at first. Got it now though.
i like how it sounds like the souls of the damed escaping hell through a helium factory the whole video
@@BigAirr. this. This is why I do this. 🖤
This is gold
Yep, can confirm, this is my experience! Turning rates down and setting a throttle limit helps a whole lot.
and lots of practice
AH man, so glad that you post this. I thought it was just me :D. I have the Vision40 Walksnail version (also Mobula 7 frame) and have pretty much the same result.
Hell yeah glad to be of help. lol. Keep it up. Such a fun hobbie once you get past the learning curve.
Fun flights and crashes. I'm learning to fly Acro on a Mobula8 and in Sims (mostly Tryp) and am absolutely loving it. For now, for indoors I'm sticking to sims. For outside I'm starting with fields. I hope to then move to playgrounds. And if that is successful, maybe I'll try in more crowded spaces like my house (although I'm sure the cats wouldn't be too happy about it).
Thanks! Sounds like you have a good plan for getting started! Have fun!!! 🙌
Yeah man. Youll get there i got a Mobula7 1s ERS, very similiar really just smaller than yours, and i fly that thing over all over the place now. I started using the same method and after like a week or two my videos were soo much better. I mean im not freestyle pro or anything yet but i can fly it around well and do the regular tricks like rolls and flips.
I actually just put a video up of it on my chanel. i put Bluejay ESC firmware on it as well.
Did that come with BLHeli_S or Bluejay from the factory do you know?
Its even fine in the wind, really not that bad. I love this little thing lol. Its so fun going thru small gaps now like through some smaller obstacles outside before i really try them with my 5" lol.. Also because theyre so durable in crashes being plastic and able to fllex i guess.. Havent broken anything yet but she will prob need a set of new props eventually theyre alittle nicked up, theyre all still original somehow lol...
I just turtle mode it and im back off flying again lol. It flies great in Acro mode on the stock tune, so make sure to save it at least as a backup in case you want to go back.
thinking about getting the mobula8 as my first fov drone, how is it?
@@slimsqde7397 For outdoors, I assume? HD or Analog? Analog: it's amazing. HD w/O3 it's over-weighted and requires a lot of throttle to catch. For cinematic it still works well, just not really a freestyle quad. I fly a Meteor65 (analog) indoors which is a ton of fun - I'm participating in RaceGOW season 2. I'm waiting on a Mobula6 2024, which I think I'm ready for, which has more performance. I spent a lot of time early on with an Analog Meteor75 at the playground (in light wind). For a first quad (all analog), a Mobula7, Meteor75, Meteor75 Pro, or Mobula8 are all pretty great. For indoor the Mobula6 or Meteor65. For crossover, probably the Meteor75. I've more-or-less replaced my Mob8+O3 with a Pavo25 V2+O3, which is a LOT more powerful, but also quite fast (I wouldn't necessarily suggest it as a first quad). Start in the simulator.
@Dorff_Meister thanks for the response, anolog and outdoors, im trying to keep it budget. and i got some los practice with a self leveling quad, hubsan x4 h107. also have some practice in the sim, just dont have the money right now but hopefully in a few months i can get somethinh
You will be zipping through those spokes in no time. Let’s go ! 😊
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I dunno why but this is fun to watch
Yep! It's really like that!
Lol, right,
Its nice seeing someone run the same exact goggle/transmitter combo that I run and struggling as much as I did when I first started lol
Yo thanks for that. Yeah it’s a hard hobby to get started in. But soooooo worth it.
@@808TRK for sure! I was even worse than this video at the start and I'm not too much better now honestly. Tiny whoops are way harder to fly than 3-5" drones which is why I moved away from them for a while to get a feel for larger drones in acro first.
Ya, like that...
Thanks for posting it, your flying improved all throughout!
Reminds me of when I flew an eachine e-013, flying under furniture gives a fun perspective, like being real small. Only mine was being hunted by 2 young cats and get carried off as prey, haha!
Cats give it that extra little bonus level of hard!
Tbats a fairly accurate depiction except you forgot to land in the dogs water bowl or toilet ! Its all part of the process
😂🙌
Ive got about 7 hours on DRL with an XBOX One controller. I can pretty reliably make the drone go where I want it to. I just ordered my Tinyhawk 3 Freestyle, and I'll also use the Elrs Emax controller to practice more in the Sim. I'm so excited!
hell yeah, have fun
Noob flights in the COOLEST condo ever!
🙌 appreciate that. We love this place!
When i started there where a lot harder crashes and stuff breaking lol great job man!!
Yo, hell yeah, thanks for the motivating words. Following!!!!
That was a funny video.
Glad you enjoyed. Was fun to edit up.
brother, I've seen vids of pig farms with less squealing
@@tyborg314 lol. 🥁
I think air mode kinda sticks the drone to surfaces sometimes. Try switching the air mode off
yeah this is a long time ago :) I rarely use air mode.
Reality hits hard 😂🎉
lol. Yeah. Hard at first.
Banshee whoop 😵
im very confused. im seeing HD video but when you fly by yourself i see analog goggles? are u using a different vrx?
@@fingusFPV HD DVR with an sd-card on board on an analog tiny whoop. 🙌
Hah ... wish I could fly half as good 😂 One day ... 😊
😂
So true. I tried this with my cinelog20. What pain. My gf has so many plants m. I’m scared to chop them up.
Def takes some time. I have a few chopped up leaves not gonna lie. 🤣🙌 you got this go. Keep after it.
Recently chopped up a plant in my livingroom and it made a mess. Props, drone and wall were covered in mushy, green plantmatter. Was a pain to wipe it off of the white painted wall
@@yuujistingray2668 oof. 😅
Learning really well!
Thanks.
Can confirm
😂
This is my life
Keep at it you’ll get past it!!! 🙌💯
Not bad at all! How did you get the video, VTX or DVR in box goggles?
Yo thanks. The Mobula 7 HD records 1080 on board.
do you use crash recovery?
I do now. Not back then.
This video really shows the steep learning that's required. One question : were you providing only yaw inputs or yaw+roll inputs to make turns? I've heard that acro mode automatically provides some coordinated roll inputs along with your yaw inputs so that you don't have to provide any manual roll. I'm yet to learn acro mode, hence the question.
Yes, yaw alone in acro will turn around without simultaneous roll.
@@808TRK Thank you!
Great video. Looks a lot like me flying in my place. LOL Nice place you have there. Keep on keepin on! Which Whoop are you flying?
Thank you!! I’m flying the Mobula 7 1s HD - I just got the regular Mobula 7 1s version the other day too… which is lighter but doesn’t film in HD. Gonna post an edit from it soon, it’s soooo much more controllable.
@@808TRK Cool. I'm just now getting into ExpressLRS and am looking for a Whoop that has it. The only two that I own now are an old Blade Inductrix and a Mobula6 on Crossfire.
@@pekwalker hi, I have meteor 75 and it is ok. Previously I had Cetus Pro which is a trash, meteor is much better. The only issue is with loose plug between vtx and AIO, I plan to solder it.
If only there was a way to switch off that big fan! Would have made the place a little bit saver for indoor fight training.
Being able to adjust for it helped me in the long run.
Facts!! Lol
🤣🙌👍
Maybe turn that ceiling fan off? 😂
Maybe check the old ass comments. 😆😳
where is the audio coming from?
The drone.
Mobula 6 HD right? Looks about right but it honestly looks like auto level is your flight mode not acro. Or your not aware how much a turn can be tightened by rolling with your turns, again it looks auto leveled.
Never mind I looked at the front ducts, not mobula, still about level.
It is 100% not auto leveled. Also this is over a year and a half ago. ;)
@acroduster it is a Mobula 7 HD 1s
@@808TRK cool beans, right little space, it's a trip. What frequency are your esc running at? Seems pretty stock by the sound, jesc and 48000 makes a huge diff, I also find it xpo curve tuning for yaw and roll contribute greatly to whoop flying.
@@acroduster yeah already way past flying like this, appreciate it tho.
what FPV system do you use?
DJI O3, Analog and HDZero.
The crash-O-9000
@@808TRK At the same time? No wonder you crash so much.
@@KainniaK lol yeah that's not how this works. Also this was a long time ago and is clearly an analog whoop. ;)
@@808TRK I was joking. I can't even make it 2 seconds on acro without crashing in to our car so I'll shut up now.
Nice place :)
Yo thanks 😊 it’s small but we love it.
What drone is that? It really screams
It’s a mob7 HD 1s
Your house is so fucking sick
@@reame2758 awe. Thank you. 🩵
Tip: turn off airmode in betaflight when using acro and it wont get sucked into the wall when you bum into it
Yeah. That and turn on crash recovery. This was a long time ago. 🙌
Hi, noob here can I know where to turn off the setting ?
@@coregenesis4630 main configuration screen.
But you lose autority on 0 throttle movements, dont you?
@@JackalFPV meh. It’s pretty easy to deal with indoors. Outdoor I prefer air mode for sure.
It would have been much easier if he would have turned off the fan on the ceiling which produces a lot of downwind and turbulences and makes flying even harder.
Ha. Yeah. It’s always on. Still is and I fly all around it now. Turning it off would not have made me a good pilot back then. Stick time is everything.
I literally see me 2 years ago 😄
Woohoo. Gives me hope. Lol.
Anyone else ever ruined their quad in the dogs water bowl?
I’ve heard of it happening!
your flat reminds me a lot of the east german WBS70 :D
Yep lots of square rectangles in america.
@@808TRK was more thinking about the specific layout, with windowless kitchen, having a hole to the living room in exactly that place. But yes, cheap buildings from the same time frame are probably looking similar all over the world.
Is this mobula 7 hd
Yes it is.
Try turning on crash recovery in BF
Yeah man this is like over a year ago when I was learning. Way past all that now.
Nice job man just try to fly for the second then start trying tricks
Yeah as soon as I start trying stuff it goes awry but when I pull something off it feels so rad.
Please help me I am 10 times worse LOL I really need some newbie one-on-one advice lol.
Best advice is to just keep at it. Also try a sim out.
The mobula6HD looks great but flies like $hit
💯
@@808TRK modify it with A 75mm frame wirh 25000 kv motors and it’s a completely different bird!
@@808TRK ua-cam.com/video/AqmJVpYQJ0U/v-deo.htmlsi=Qr2ffN8n7Ow_Yyb5
@@DronePsyche yeah this video is from a long time ago when I first started. Def don’t fly or have that heavy 7 hd anymore.
@@808TRK same here. I haven’t flown mine in about 2 years
That has got to be the most all time nails on a chalkboard annoying whine ever. Phew!
Yes those mob7 hd 1s are def on the struggle bus.
I sa u where doing tricks but don’t have enough time to do them meby higher ur rates a little
Yeah this is a while ago. Also the edit is meant to be funny/over dramatic.
Have you practiced on a simulator at all dude?
Yead DUDE I have. Thanks for your dudely concern.
😂😂😂
using only 1 finger per stick is the problem here (soz i meant thumb AS I USE FINGERS AND THUMB ON MY AVATA 2
@@DANDO-DS no definitely not at all the prob. This is called an “edit” for a reason.
@@808TRK what’s an ‘edit’ for a reason?
@@DANDO-DS lol. Meaning I edited it too be all crashes. It’s tongue in cheek. It’s also a long time ago. Don’t need your help on how many fingers my sticks demand. 😆
@@DANDO-DS also it’s a thumb not a finger. 👍
@@808TRK TAKE. NOTE OUT OF FPV VEGANS BOOK AND BE MORE KIND YOU BUM
I don't think that's acro mode
@@aj10mando38 lol. K. 😂 I assure you it is.
why tf did you include that horrible audio - no one wants to hear that - especially without a warning. this video woke up my entire house
@@beckykey7811 hahaha. lol. 😂 🔥✅👍