You tell zero lies, sir. These are some seriously thocky switches. You've also convinced me that post-lubing is very important. I never understood the difference until watching this. Thank you for this video, sincerely.
Thank you! I am honestly still learning and trying the best I can to be as helpful as possible. So anytime I help someone I’m glad and thankful these videos are helpful
welcome to the best, most useless hobby ever. I'm about a year deep now, and boy oh boy, this man speaks the truth! They're also my more favored actuation forces, this guy knows his stuff, I have to say. I'm super convinced.
i love how i can tell this guy is a gamer by the way he types with his left hand on wasd with pinky only on shift and his right hand has to stretch all the way to the f key.
Thanks for your video. I went with Vertex V1 and modded it to be quieter as i wanted the thocky feel thru my fingers and to not disturb people in the room as well. Didn't regret it. It's like therapy for your fingers
I wanted to learn more about the Vertex V One's and I'm glad I found this video. I subscribed to your content! Also it's nice to see a keyboard reviewer who is confident enough to actually show their face.
When doing the stem wobble, its hard to see if the whole switch moves as well, maybe if there was a mount you could use instead of simply holding it? Or maybe you could try moving the keycap over it?
Yeah that’s a good idea I do want more tools to be able to show things better so I’ll have to figure out a way to do that! Thank you for the suggestion! 😊
Yes, it’s a Meletrix Zoom75. It’s actually a mix of Keycaps. The main set is the Drop Bamboo Skylight and then I mixed it with another set that came with a new keyboard I got
I have never done a build before, but if I can throw something together those vertex's are gonna be my first stop. I found this video and your channel looking up: "Thockiest Keyboard" lol. I got a Wooting at the beginning of the month and I was immediately like "ohhh"
Thank you for coming by to watch! Wooting is a great gaming keyboard but definitely not Thocky hahaha. If you do plan to do a custom keyboard check out the different keyboards I’ve reviewed but I would say ones with more foam will definitely be thockier and quieter
I haven’t tried those ones, but I’ll order them to try out. I’ve ordered a bunch of switches already but I want to definitely hear about more switches so I can do more tests and do an updated video 😁
I was pretty much decided on the durock ice kings. Shorter travel distance that i can pair with the long pole TX AP stabs for exact same travel distance and also has minimal wobble and a nice deep sound. But now im unsure if i should be considering the Vertex V1. I want it smooth and deep sounding with very minimal wobble due to my tall keycaps. I likely will be using the switches stock.
Boba U4T was one of those switches for me that i was hyped to try out but because of the strong tactility they dropped my wpm by 10-20 wmp, I found that i made more mistakes using them for some reason, but they are the smoothest tactile ive felt
@@edzbigornia7370 that’s fair when changing to something else that feels different typing speed definitely drops! Hahaha the boba for sure super smooth.
Im just curious if Gateron Milky Yellow Piro have potential to get Thocky Sounds, i know that switch being old, but it would be best budget switch i guess. Probably you can make a little bit review about this switch
@@rizkiabnan Gateron milky yellow could be Thocky for sure it depends on your keyboard build as well. I actually have them also in my top 5 creamy video too
@@mikeytypes can you give some tips how to mod thocky build on plastic or abs materials? And is it possible if i change the plate from polycarbonat into gravoply get more thocky?
@@rizkiabnan I haven’t actually heard of gravioly plate, but ways you can make keyboard thockier is fill it with more foam, like I use car sound dampener in my boards, lube switches, and then you can tape mod the back of the pcb with a couple layers. Another is changing to thockier switches
@mikeytypes with my job, I do a lot of data entry, I find my flow interrupted without the 10 key attached. I just got myself some milky yellow keys to try out after seeing your video. They sounded really nice
@@jenniferpoette2063 yeah, I definitely get that one day I do hope I can make a video on different keyboard sizes and basics on doing a build. One thing I would note is anyone doing data entry or work related to punching in numbers should have a numpad and my suggestion would be either buy a 75% and a separate numpad or a full size keyboard. One benefit of having a separate numpad is that you can place it anywhere you want but of course means more wires possibly and using up more desk space in that it’s not where they keyboard is anymore but is now moving around
Vertex V1 is a win. I am planning to buy Oil Kings but it is so expensive! and now it seems Vertex is equal or even better. Sound wise, it seems deeper. But is it quieter or louder? How about the smoothnes? Is it the best out of these?
My dream as a tactile enjoyer is something with high 'tactility' (a nice prominent bump) and mid to low actuation force. Really liked the Bobas but I'm getting old and my beat up hands/wrists honestly hurt after a few hours with them. I'm waiting on a few kb's to test out a bunch of switches (because I'm too lazy to take my current kb apart to swap switches) but after watching this I might throw in a linear switch or 2 just to compare. I've seen a lot of buzz around the WS Morandi's, if you haven't tried those might want to give them a try.
I get you I have tendinitis so anything too heavy makes my wrists hurt with long usage. The Boba felt good but I honestly for typing love my electro capacitive switch keyboard. I think a very light topre switch or electro capacitive switch keyboard maybe what you want. The Morandi is nice I didn’t put them in this video as I find them to be more creamy sounding but they do have stem wobble. The new WS pearl switch feels nice though. I do want to get myself a light topre keyboard
@@nadtz I found this light tactile from Outemu Lime. However it’s silent switch. It’s 35g actuation, easy on fingertips but I do miss the thocky sound. The bump is light but adequate, the return is crisp and Not mushy. Approximate 1.5mm pre-travel. This is the lightest tactile I’ve found so far.
@@mikeytypes Just saw your video. Now I'm ever more confused if I should get the Oil Kings, the Vertex V1, or the Akko Rosewood. So many options hahaha
I have tried them and honestly don’t really like them. They sound Thocky, but do have a higher pitch to them and have a bit of a scratchy feeling to them.
@@mikeytypes oh I see, good to know! What about Coffee chip ice cream tactile? From some test, it is more thocky than u4t switch. And again, would like to know what you think as well 😄😄
@@mikeytypes I'd also recommend: OwlLab Neo Whites BSUN Raw Linears Aflion Blue Sky TTC Venus/Neptunes Sarokeys Strawberry Wine If you're looking for more linear recommendations. Glad you tried the Vertex V1s btw. Glad you liked them.
I personally consider the Gateron Milky yellow Pro creamy but that’s my own personal thoughts on them. I feel Thocky and creamy is a very very thin line and its preference based
I currently use the Zoom98 full foam with the POM plate and factory lubed Gateron Oil Kings and I'd give a 7.5/10 for deep thock. This was my first attempt at building a keyboard and I wanted a super deep thock, I love the sound of new Akko Rosewood switch stock but they only sell in packs of 45 so I didn't get them. Do you have any tips on making the sound profile thockier?
@@wilsonjevin hmmm I don’t own a 98 though I wish Meletrix would send me one. I think in general adding more foam will make it more deep. The thing is we get higher pitched sounds as the case is metal and has a faster frequency bounce back meaning higher pitch. I would say the best would be do a thicker tape mod on the back of the PCB of course better to do directly on the pcb and add more foam. Maybe change the plate POM I found made it deeper
@@mikeytypes I bought new keycaps and brought the thock up to a 9/10 and complete changed the sound profile. I am happy with the sound and may do the tape mod but I’m too lazy to take the board apart.
I love deep thocky sounds too. What is your KB spec? Foam vs no Foam sound can vary by a lot. Have you found any lighter thocky swithces like under 40g? Typing all day on 50g + does hurt the finger tips with prolonged time. Love the sound of these switches nonetheless!
Foam helps a lot with more of a Thocky sound. Less foam and the keyboard having more space I find makes a higher pitched sound the best way to look at it is if you have an aluminum case the sound resonates inside the case and metal tends to have a faster vibration which leads to higher sound. The TTC Neptunes have a 50g bottom out but has lighter actuation which may help and they sound Thocky. The new Akko rosewood is also very nice more creamy but deep sounding
@@mikeytypes No wonder! So I do have aluminum case! It was too clacky for me so I bought the foam to put between PCB and aluminum plate, and another foam to put at the bottom of the case (below PCB). Now it sounds marbly, not quite thocky yet. So I ordered Krush65 Polycarbonate case with PC plate, hopefully will be thockier 😃.
BTW I have spring swithced V1s to Geon 22mm Triple stage 57.5gf. Gone the mushiness and dullness of the switch and came a more poppy&lively switch with the same deep thock. Hmmm, love it 😬
@@mattk9504 I don’t have the Venus but have the Neptune which are just lighter. I do enjoy them they do sound deep and are smooth, but I prefer the Vetex V1 over them in terms of over feel, but if you wanted RGB lighting the TTC would be better choice
@@captainhevy3665 yeah the Durock Ice King out of them all would be best! It will spread out which some say isn’t the best because the whole switch is transparent
@@mikeytypes would the Number 4 Switches also work as they are translucent? They sound a little better for my taste but they don’t have the cut out to let the light through
@@captainhevy3665 the Everglide would also work I would say you’re right where it doesn’t have a light diffuser there so it is more spread out but not as directed like the Durock ice king
@@mikeytypes thanks for the fast responses! So after checking the video again a few time I decided that the Durock Ice Kings will be my choice to upgrade my Keyboard. What else would I need to lube the switches?
I'm running the oil king's, and my keyboard body has really rattly stabilizers, and I am using inland ASA PBT double shot keycaps. what is the best keyboard body that i can replace mine with, and are there better keycaps to get the thockiness of the keyboard in the video?
My board is the Zoom75 which is really nice, but definitely a bit pricey. Another option is the Monsgeek M1 V3 which sounds really nice. If your stabs are rattly you could just replace the stabs. I use the Wuque Studio ones but I heard TX stabs are good. You could get those and replace. Add some foam or some sound dampeners to the bottom of your board and the oil kings could sound a lot more Thocky. For lubing stabs I would suggest lube the stems and the wire and then use a syringe after to put more into the stabs if it’s still rattling. Depends on the size of keyboard you want though, but most recently I have posted a very budget trimode TKL the MCHOSE GX87 they said it would start at $79 for the lite version
@@mikeytypes Thankyou so much! I don't want to intrude on your privacy but i would like to get in contact to fully get explanations and things recommended to make my dream keyboard. Because I saw some videos about switch films and foam pads and i don't know how to install them. If we could get in contact some time that would be great, i will try not to take too much of your time.
@@robertboberson8696 hey, you can send me a message on instagram and I can see how I can help, I found car sound dampener on Amazon for like 20 bucks is great. Also for spacebar. You cut it and put it in the spacebar and it’ll get really good
bought the vertex v1s and majority of my set ticks like theres no tomorrow, particularly when tapping the key on the bottom or left side. hard to ignore because the ticking is pingy and high pitched that it stands out from deeper low pitched thock that the switches make on my gmk67. I've tested these on 4 different keycaps and lubed pretty much every place on the switch and I just can't get rid of them. Might just replace them with the Haimu Midnights
Hi! As someone who doesnt know much about this hobby yet, are Akko's switches overrated? The most well viewed videos have only akko's switches but im starting to think its a marketing strategy. I really want a creamy sounding keyboard. Can you recommend some to me? What are the best brands out there?
Hello! Not a problem, there is so many things out there that it’s definitely not easy to decide. The reason for Akko in terms of creamy sounding keyboard is because the Akko Cream Yellow is actually one of the best creamiest sounding ones for the price. Akko makes quite a lot of budget switches that are well built and even for myself the Akko Creamy Yellow’s are in my Top 5. I do plan to do a Top 5 creamy Switches and I would say the more well known ones are Akko, Gateron, KTT, Kalih, Wuque Studio, HMX, JWICK
@mikeytypes if you don't mind, what's your top 5 creamy switches? Also if I'm not mistaken the akko regular cream yellow switch was discontinuated and now there's only the pro version. By watching some videos it sounds more clacky than the regular one, so do you know one that is in the same price range (maybe another linear from akko?) and sounds similar to the regular version?
@@xXMissPandinhaXx I don’t have the whole list yet I’m still trying to decide on which are my top 5 but so far I have the Gateron milky pro yellow as one, wuque studio Morandi sounds good but people have issues with the stem wobble.
@@xXMissPandinhaXx hopefully I’ll be able to make the video in July, a little tough at the moment just because I got fully booked for keyboard reviews until mid July so hoping to be able to make it then!
@@thestreamreader yeah the price isn’t bad 90 for like 40 dollars Canadian. I’ll definitely try them out I’m already out of my budget for this month on switches but definitely give them a go next month
aw that's a shame to hear. The yuki is one of my favorite dongles ever. What made you buy the Project M? I didn't really liked it from the couple of times I've tried it out.
Durock Ice King would be a good one because it’s transparent, but all of them you do see light just it’ll depend on how much light gets through. The Gateron oil king/bubblegum not as much light goes through same goes for the vertex
@@actimix9 yeah the vertex is very blocked off, but mine very lightly comes through, which is why for like RGB support I wouldn’t go with either the vertex, oil king or bubble gum and stick with the Durock Ice King. They are bit heavier but very smooth and Thocky, but I’m not much of an rgb on my keyboard person unless it’s my gaming keyboard which I have different profile for different games so I use it to know what profile I’m using
So i also got the Oil Kings, and while i like them, they sound a bit like they would smack. I think its because of too much lube? At 4:42 you even can hear it in the video. Whys that? Since you added lube it cant be the lube?
Sorry, just to confirm you're saying that there is a smack sound because of too much lube? or are you asking where is there like a smack sound on the lubed versions even though it it lubed compared to stock version?
Sorry should have explained more into it like it feels tactile but very smooth, and I should have said what I was comparing my experience to which is like the Zealios V1 and the Epomaker Budgerigar which had a stronger tactile feel
Just leaving info here for myself in the future 1. Vertex V1 - Nylon Housing - POM Stem - 62g Spring 2. Durock Ice King - Polymer Nylon Housing - Modified Nylon Stem - 62g Spring 3. Gateron Oil Kings (Alternative #3) - Nylon Top - INK Bottom - POM Stem - 55g Spring 3.Gateron Blue Bubblegum - INK Bottom - Nylon Top - POM Stem - 55g SPring 4. Everglide Aqua King - PC Housing - POM Stem - 62g Spring 5. Boba U4T - Proprietary Plastic Blend - 65g Spring - POM Stem
@@mikeytypes Depends of the board and mods also. I use Keychron Q1 with steel plate,tempest mode,pe foam on PCB and i use some kind of fiberfill from aquarium stuff of my girlfriend as it gave me the best sound results :D
@@Wolek96 that sounds interesting! I tried before aerogel foam but it was way too dusty. One thing I do want to do is build my own custom deepest sounding keyboard possible, so lately I’ve been studying up on the theory of sound
@@mikeytypes I suggest you to give fiberfill a try. It’s making keyboard sound amazing. I tried stock foam,sound dampening foam,pillow foam etc and for now fiberfill is straight winner. Now I only want to try silicon dampener,but have to find out from what can I cut good piece.
@@Wolek96 yeah I’ll have to try out fiberfill! Thanks for letting me know. I’ve tried aerogel foam, car sound dampener, keyboard dampeners they sell on Amazon, I even tried playdoh, but so far car sound dampeners for myself worked well
The line between creamy and Thocky for sure is a thin line. Mostly dependent on keyboard used and personal preference. I personally go with more deeper sounding as Thocky and the feel of the keys itself
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You tell zero lies, sir. These are some seriously thocky switches. You've also convinced me that post-lubing is very important. I never understood the difference until watching this. Thank you for this video, sincerely.
Thank you! I am honestly still learning and trying the best I can to be as helpful as possible. So anytime I help someone I’m glad and thankful these videos are helpful
Just started down this rabbithole today. Those Gateron Oil King's may be my favorite I've heard so far!
Welcome! Hahaha it is a deep rabbit hole if you want it to be or can be a shallow one
welcome to the best, most useless hobby ever. I'm about a year deep now, and boy oh boy, this man speaks the truth! They're also my more favored actuation forces, this guy knows his stuff, I have to say. I'm super convinced.
Yea but also not the cheaper ones ngl
i spent almost 400$ on my first keyboard, and now I'm working on buying my second..😭
@ yeah.. it’s like a quick sound it slowly brings you down the hole and you can’t get out haha
Excellent video, all the info and none of the fluff, great testing, just love this!
@@BrendanEvan thank you!
i love how i can tell this guy is a gamer by the way he types with his left hand on wasd with pinky only on shift and his right hand has to stretch all the way to the f key.
Hahaha that’s how you could tell?
Thanks for your video. I went with Vertex V1 and modded it to be quieter as i wanted the thocky feel thru my fingers and to not disturb people in the room as well. Didn't regret it. It's like therapy for your fingers
@@ChinchillaBONK that’s awesome!
500 Subs let's gooo I subscribed just last week and have been loving the content. Keep going!
Thank you!
@@mikeytypes i thought you had like at least 2.5 mil the quality is so good
@@thegeezers6219 thanks so much still only until 1k. I really hope I can start getting more traction to do more content
Blue bubblegum and oil kings sounded the best on this list, imo great music to my ears
great video! its very informative and i like the switch choices. you have convinced me to buy a set, although im not sure which ones yet.
Thanks so much! Haha it is hard honestly I’m actually doing a Top 5 Creamy switches coming up this week 😊
@@mikeytypes oh nice, ill be sure to check it out
Thanks for this comparison! My current switches are Akko Rosewood. Are the Vertex V1 noticeably better? Thanks!
I like the rosewood more hahaha
@@mikeytypes Alright! You've calmed my compulsion to purchase them, thank you!
I wanted to learn more about the Vertex V One's and I'm glad I found this video. I subscribed to your content! Also it's nice to see a keyboard reviewer who is confident enough to actually show their face.
Thank you!
v1's are weird cause the topout is louder than the bottom out
@@iavyy that’s fair I have noticed that with other switches like the Gateron Northpole
Great list. I think WS Morandi deserves an honorable mention here though
Thanks! I felt the Morandi are more creamy sounding than Thocky which was why they weren’t on this list
ws morandi too much wobble
@@choopanthem the batch I bought didn’t have that bad of a wobble
Honestly was very disappointed when I received mine, seemed more clacky than thoccy
@@wang0220it's almost always board dependant really
man your videos are so legit. you should do some build streams on twitch or whereever
Hahaha thanks!! I’m thinking about doing streams, but right now I don’t have a good area to do a set up for it and a good camera
I stay away from gateron switches cause of the stem wobble. I noticed my cream sodas wobbled a lot and I just can’t use them
That’s fair! I did notice on all the Gateron switches I had there was some wobble the smoothies I found had very little wobble
I love the Durock Ice King 62g a lot. 🥰🥰🥰 getting them for Christmas 😉👍
@@TwstedTV it is a good grab
Can you make a switch lubing guide if you don't already have one? Super video!
@@DreamingPhenom thank you! I actually have a how to lube switches video 😊
When doing the stem wobble, its hard to see if the whole switch moves as well, maybe if there was a mount you could use instead of simply holding it? Or maybe you could try moving the keycap over it?
Yeah that’s a good idea I do want more tools to be able to show things better so I’ll have to figure out a way to do that! Thank you for the suggestion! 😊
What about gateron black ink v2s?
@@Rexune they are definitely good but I put them more creamy sounding
Have you tried any of rhe deeper HMX Switches ? Like the HMX Hibiscus
I haven’t tried that one out, I’ll have to try them out
What keycaps are you using on that keybaord? Is it a zoom 75?
Yes, it’s a Meletrix Zoom75. It’s actually a mix of Keycaps. The main set is the Drop Bamboo Skylight and then I mixed it with another set that came with a new keyboard I got
Great video, I did like the oil kings
@@2old4thislobby thank you!
been loving my vertex v1s too!
Do you still use it? Is it really that thocky?
What is the configuration on the zoom75 you're using to test these switches?
My Zoom75 I’m using POM plate and the rest stock
I have never done a build before, but if I can throw something together those vertex's are gonna be my first stop. I found this video and your channel looking up: "Thockiest Keyboard" lol. I got a Wooting at the beginning of the month and I was immediately like "ohhh"
Thank you for coming by to watch! Wooting is a great gaming keyboard but definitely not Thocky hahaha. If you do plan to do a custom keyboard check out the different keyboards I’ve reviewed but I would say ones with more foam will definitely be thockier and quieter
Congrats on 1k bro! This is the first video of yours I have watched.
Thank you!! I can’t believe I’m at 1k now hopefully can keep growing this channel even more
@@mikeytypes Well you got a sub from me!
@@streets2stream thank you!
Thank you for your wonderful review on those switches. But i am wondering what keyboard you are using? And keep these videos coming.
That’s with the Meletrix Zoom75! Thanks so much! 😊
This was extremely helpful, thank you
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have you tried the ttc venus or neptune? i dont see a lot of people talking about them but they are pretty thocky
I haven’t tried those ones, but I’ll order them to try out. I’ve ordered a bunch of switches already but I want to definitely hear about more switches so I can do more tests and do an updated video 😁
if you had to go with one stock what would you choose?
For stock I liked the Durock Ice King or the Aqua Kings
@@mikeytypes thank you i was looking for new switches and don't like to lube.
@@RageKilla12 no problem! Yeah they both come decently done stock I found. I just like to do a little extra
is the stock lube of the vertex v1 alright? if not should i buy them unlubed and lube them myself?
Stock lube is okay, I think hand lubing is just better
Just started getting into wanting to build keyboards. Do you have a video on how to lube the switches? ☺️
@@kaylanguyen I don’t have a lubing switches video but I’ll definitely make a video with it or a video on how I lube my switches 😊
What lube are you using on the V1s?
Krytox 205g0
I was pretty much decided on the durock ice kings. Shorter travel distance that i can pair with the long pole TX AP stabs for exact same travel distance and also has minimal wobble and a nice deep sound. But now im unsure if i should be considering the Vertex V1. I want it smooth and deep sounding with very minimal wobble due to my tall keycaps. I likely will be using the switches stock.
If you plan to use stock I would go with Durock ice king than the vertex
any recommendations for a backboard with screen? and how to lube it?
@@Haru_Emiya a keyboard with a screen? Depending on the budget you could do the Meletrix Zoom75 Tiga has both knob and screen
what is the keyboard housing in the video?
They Keyboard is the Meletrix Zoom75 using a POM plate
Boba U4T was one of those switches for me that i was hyped to try out but because of the strong tactility they dropped my wpm by 10-20 wmp, I found that i made more mistakes using them for some reason, but they are the smoothest tactile ive felt
@@edzbigornia7370 that’s fair when changing to something else that feels different typing speed definitely drops! Hahaha the boba for sure super smooth.
which of these are tactile and which are linear?
Except the boba u4t all linear
Im just curious if Gateron Milky Yellow Piro have potential to get Thocky Sounds, i know that switch being old, but it would be best budget switch i guess.
Probably you can make a little bit review about this switch
@@rizkiabnan Gateron milky yellow could be Thocky for sure it depends on your keyboard build as well. I actually have them also in my top 5 creamy video too
@@mikeytypes can you give some tips how to mod thocky build on plastic or abs materials? And is it possible if i change the plate from polycarbonat into gravoply get more thocky?
@@rizkiabnan I haven’t actually heard of gravioly plate, but ways you can make keyboard thockier is fill it with more foam, like I use car sound dampener in my boards, lube switches, and then you can tape mod the back of the pcb with a couple layers. Another is changing to thockier switches
@@mikeytypesalright then, thanks for the advice brother, greeting from Indonesia🙏
Do you have a full sized mechanical keyboard with number pad rec?
I don’t have a full size at the moment I have a separate numpad, though I would like to build a full size soon
@mikeytypes with my job, I do a lot of data entry, I find my flow interrupted without the 10 key attached. I just got myself some milky yellow keys to try out after seeing your video. They sounded really nice
@@jenniferpoette2063 yeah, I definitely get that one day I do hope I can make a video on different keyboard sizes and basics on doing a build. One thing I would note is anyone doing data entry or work related to punching in numbers should have a numpad and my suggestion would be either buy a 75% and a separate numpad or a full size keyboard. One benefit of having a separate numpad is that you can place it anywhere you want but of course means more wires possibly and using up more desk space in that it’s not where they keyboard is anymore but is now moving around
Nice thocky sound 😍. Did you find this more thocky or does Vertex v1 remain your fave ?
Right now my fav is the Akko Rosewood
Yo which keyboard r u using in the video i love the colourway
The keyboard is the Meletrix Zoom 75 kit and the Keycaps is from Drop Skylight
@@mikeytypes Ok thank toy
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the akko cs pianos are great too
@@LeberkasLover the new piano switches are good yeah just trying them out now
What would be (in your opinion) the closest switch to the Vertex V1 that supports RGB?
I would say Durock Ice King or TTC Neptune or Venus
@@mikeytypesis TTC venus good even just stock?
@@sab2088 they are pretty good stock too
Vertex V1 is a win. I am planning to buy Oil Kings but it is so expensive! and now it seems Vertex is equal or even better.
Sound wise, it seems deeper. But is it quieter or louder?
How about the smoothnes? Is it the best out of these?
I would say Vertex is smoother than the oil kings in terms of how loud it is both are similar
@@mikeytypesWhere can i find Vertex V1 switches?
@@mikeytypesSorry i meant the durock ice king switches.
@@Personan642 I had ordered mine from Divnikey
@@mikeytypes I wont ask another question again but where did you also get the vertex v1 switches?
My dream as a tactile enjoyer is something with high 'tactility' (a nice prominent bump) and mid to low actuation force. Really liked the Bobas but I'm getting old and my beat up hands/wrists honestly hurt after a few hours with them. I'm waiting on a few kb's to test out a bunch of switches (because I'm too lazy to take my current kb apart to swap switches) but after watching this I might throw in a linear switch or 2 just to compare. I've seen a lot of buzz around the WS Morandi's, if you haven't tried those might want to give them a try.
I get you I have tendinitis so anything too heavy makes my wrists hurt with long usage. The Boba felt good but I honestly for typing love my electro capacitive switch keyboard. I think a very light topre switch or electro capacitive switch keyboard maybe what you want. The Morandi is nice I didn’t put them in this video as I find them to be more creamy sounding but they do have stem wobble. The new WS pearl switch feels nice though. I do want to get myself a light topre keyboard
@@nadtz I found this light tactile from Outemu Lime. However it’s silent switch. It’s 35g actuation, easy on fingertips but I do miss the thocky sound. The bump is light but adequate, the return is crisp and Not mushy. Approximate 1.5mm pre-travel. This is the lightest tactile I’ve found so far.
No Akko Rosewood?
@@Greedisgood626 actually it’s in my top 5 creamy video
@@mikeytypes Just saw your video. Now I'm ever more confused if I should get the Oil Kings, the Vertex V1, or the Akko Rosewood. So many options hahaha
have you tried DUHUK Lumia Matcha Switch V4 Pro Linear? Would like to know what you think!
I have tried them and honestly don’t really like them. They sound Thocky, but do have a higher pitch to them and have a bit of a scratchy feeling to them.
@@mikeytypes oh I see, good to know! What about Coffee chip ice cream tactile? From some test, it is more thocky than u4t switch. And again, would like to know what you think as well 😄😄
@@gabbychow4026 I’ll have to try those out I already spent this months budget for switches I’ll order some next month
You should try the Duhuk Matcha V4s, imo they're thockier than Vertex V1s in most boards,a little pricier though.
I’ll definitely take a look!
@@mikeytypes I'd also recommend:
OwlLab Neo Whites
BSUN Raw Linears
Aflion Blue Sky
TTC Venus/Neptunes
Sarokeys Strawberry Wine
If you're looking for more linear recommendations. Glad you tried the Vertex V1s btw. Glad you liked them.
@@Necrowarp_can you recommend me thocky tactile switches that supports 3 pin? thank you
Go to milktooth and filter by 3 pin and tactile, they have like 19 3 pin tactile switches you can look at.
Would you consider Gateron Milky Yellows lubed as thocky? does it have enough THOCC or nah?
I personally consider the Gateron Milky yellow Pro creamy but that’s my own personal thoughts on them. I feel Thocky and creamy is a very very thin line and its preference based
Vertex V1 is my most fav❤
Классное видео, очень информативно и хорошая картинка :) И звук очень хорош. Спасибо за видео. и привет и России ❤
I currently use the Zoom98 full foam with the POM plate and factory lubed Gateron Oil Kings and I'd give a 7.5/10 for deep thock. This was my first attempt at building a keyboard and I wanted a super deep thock, I love the sound of new Akko Rosewood switch stock but they only sell in packs of 45 so I didn't get them. Do you have any tips on making the sound profile thockier?
@@wilsonjevin hmmm I don’t own a 98 though I wish Meletrix would send me one. I think in general adding more foam will make it more deep. The thing is we get higher pitched sounds as the case is metal and has a faster frequency bounce back meaning higher pitch. I would say the best would be do a thicker tape mod on the back of the PCB of course better to do directly on the pcb and add more foam. Maybe change the plate POM I found made it deeper
@@mikeytypes I bought new keycaps and brought the thock up to a 9/10 and complete changed the sound profile. I am happy with the sound and may do the tape mod but I’m too lazy to take the board apart.
@@wilsonjevin What keycaps did you get?
@@dansvensson5292 I bought the qtuo toffee bunny set
@@dansvensson5292 I got the Qtuo Toffee Bunny set
I love deep thocky sounds too. What is your KB spec? Foam vs no Foam sound can vary by a lot. Have you found any lighter thocky swithces like under 40g? Typing all day on 50g + does hurt the finger tips with prolonged time. Love the sound of these switches nonetheless!
Foam helps a lot with more of a Thocky sound. Less foam and the keyboard having more space I find makes a higher pitched sound the best way to look at it is if you have an aluminum case the sound resonates inside the case and metal tends to have a faster vibration which leads to higher sound. The TTC Neptunes have a 50g bottom out but has lighter actuation which may help and they sound Thocky. The new Akko rosewood is also very nice more creamy but deep sounding
@@mikeytypes No wonder! So I do have aluminum case! It was too clacky for me so I bought the foam to put between PCB and aluminum plate, and another foam to put at the bottom of the case (below PCB). Now it sounds marbly, not quite thocky yet. So I ordered Krush65 Polycarbonate case with PC plate, hopefully will be thockier 😃.
@@gabbychow4026 I find POM plate to be more Thocky sounding
what do you prefer durock king linear or tactile??
I haven’t tried the tactile , but I prefer linear switches over tactile ones
May I ask if those switches are linear or tactile?
Of course! These are all linear switches
@@mikeytypes Holy moly, that was a fast response :O Thank you!
@@tornaxo7274 not a problem at all!
BTW I have spring swithced V1s to Geon 22mm Triple stage 57.5gf. Gone the mushiness and dullness of the switch and came a more poppy&lively switch with the same deep thock. Hmmm, love it 😬
@@sysserdarr gonna have to try it out!
can i ask what keyboard you use in the video?
Of course! I use the Meletrix Zoom75. It's my main board I use for all videos except gaming videos
I only wish for a creamiest and a thockiest version of this for tactile switches
@@GunsComedy that’s completely fair I do wish I could try more tactile that was like this
how do these compare to the TTC Venus switches?
@@mattk9504 I don’t have the Venus but have the Neptune which are just lighter. I do enjoy them they do sound deep and are smooth, but I prefer the Vetex V1 over them in terms of over feel, but if you wanted RGB lighting the TTC would be better choice
vertex v1 good stock or need relube?
If you get the lubed stock many are saying it’s good I think hand lubing is just better
Is the number 2 Switch suitable for RGB keyboards?
@@captainhevy3665 yeah the Durock Ice King out of them all would be best! It will spread out which some say isn’t the best because the whole switch is transparent
@@mikeytypes would the Number 4 Switches also work as they are translucent? They sound a little better for my taste but they don’t have the cut out to let the light through
@@captainhevy3665 the Everglide would also work I would say you’re right where it doesn’t have a light diffuser there so it is more spread out but not as directed like the Durock ice king
@@mikeytypes thanks for the fast responses! So after checking the video again a few time I decided that the Durock Ice Kings will be my choice to upgrade my Keyboard. What else would I need to lube the switches?
@@captainhevy3665 I use Krytox 205g0. If you haven’t lubed switches before you’ll also need switch opener and a brush
I'm running the oil king's, and my keyboard body has really rattly stabilizers, and I am using inland ASA PBT double shot keycaps. what is the best keyboard body that i can replace mine with, and are there better keycaps to get the thockiness of the keyboard in the video?
Edit: I'm using a 75% keyboard from glorious, and my spacebar is really loud compared to the rest of the keyboard.
My board is the Zoom75 which is really nice, but definitely a bit pricey. Another option is the Monsgeek M1 V3 which sounds really nice. If your stabs are rattly you could just replace the stabs. I use the Wuque Studio ones but I heard TX stabs are good. You could get those and replace. Add some foam or some sound dampeners to the bottom of your board and the oil kings could sound a lot more Thocky. For lubing stabs I would suggest lube the stems and the wire and then use a syringe after to put more into the stabs if it’s still rattling. Depends on the size of keyboard you want though, but most recently I have posted a very budget trimode TKL the MCHOSE GX87 they said it would start at $79 for the lite version
@@mikeytypes Thankyou so much! I don't want to intrude on your privacy but i would like to get in contact to fully get explanations and things recommended to make my dream keyboard. Because I saw some videos about switch films and foam pads and i don't know how to install them. If we could get in contact some time that would be great, i will try not to take too much of your time.
@@robertboberson8696 hey, you can send me a message on instagram and I can see how I can help, I found car sound dampener on Amazon for like 20 bucks is great. Also for spacebar. You cut it and put it in the spacebar and it’ll get really good
@@mikeytypes alrighty
What keyboard is this?
This is the Meletrix Zoom75
bought the vertex v1s and majority of my set ticks like theres no tomorrow, particularly when tapping the key on the bottom or left side. hard to ignore because the ticking is pingy and high pitched that it stands out from deeper low pitched thock that the switches make on my gmk67. I've tested these on 4 different keycaps and lubed pretty much every place on the switch and I just can't get rid of them. Might just replace them with the Haimu Midnights
Oh hmm I wonder why they are ticking with a high ping for you. You are using a GMK67 right now?
@@mikeytypes yup. Also had gateron milky yellow pros before the v1s and those didn't tick as much
@@datguyoverdurr2604 Hmm that’s interesting maybe try out the Akko Rosewood
How do you rate the Gateron Oil Kings in comparison?
The Oil Kings I find are great, but I find them not as smooth
What are they all like for shine through, I've heard the Oil Kings are pretty poor for this.
Subbed btw 😄
Thanks for subbing! Oil kings are for sure poor for shine through. The Vertex also not the best for shine through but some light will come through.
@@mikeytypes nice, thanks for the quick reply!
@@edwardsaj no problem!
Time to add the Akko Rosewoods. On a Monsgeek M1W V3 and TP stabs, they are deeper than all of these, stock.
You should check out my top 5 creamy video Akko rosewood are in there haha
Hi! As someone who doesnt know much about this hobby yet, are Akko's switches overrated? The most well viewed videos have only akko's switches but im starting to think its a marketing strategy. I really want a creamy sounding keyboard. Can you recommend some to me? What are the best brands out there?
Hello! Not a problem, there is so many things out there that it’s definitely not easy to decide. The reason for Akko in terms of creamy sounding keyboard is because the Akko Cream Yellow is actually one of the best creamiest sounding ones for the price. Akko makes quite a lot of budget switches that are well built and even for myself the Akko Creamy Yellow’s are in my Top 5. I do plan to do a Top 5 creamy Switches and I would say the more well known ones are Akko, Gateron, KTT, Kalih, Wuque Studio, HMX, JWICK
@mikeytypes if you don't mind, what's your top 5 creamy switches? Also if I'm not mistaken the akko regular cream yellow switch was discontinuated and now there's only the pro version. By watching some videos it sounds more clacky than the regular one, so do you know one that is in the same price range (maybe another linear from akko?) and sounds similar to the regular version?
@@xXMissPandinhaXx I don’t have the whole list yet I’m still trying to decide on which are my top 5 but so far I have the Gateron milky pro yellow as one, wuque studio Morandi sounds good but people have issues with the stem wobble.
@mikeytypes I'll definitely look it up, thank you so much for answering! If you ever post your top 5 please let me know
@@xXMissPandinhaXx hopefully I’ll be able to make the video in July, a little tough at the moment just because I got fully booked for keyboard reviews until mid July so hoping to be able to make it then!
what board are u using?
I’m using a Meletrix Zoom75
my keyboard is 3 pin, what do you think the thockiest tactile 3 pin switch is?
So sorry, the only three pin switch’s I have are linear and I only have tried about 3-4 3 pin ones
On the typing test of vertex v1, is it lubed??
Yes, all switches lubed for full typing test
@@mikeytypes stock lubed or hand lubed?
@@equiknox_ I hand lube mine but will put like comparison between stock and lubed
@@mikeytypes they are factory lubed, do you remove the original lube and lube them yourself or just top it?
For the Vertex V1 I got they actually weren’t factory lubed like almost at all so just lubed on top
how about mmd princess v4 ?
MMD is good for the price for sure! But I didn’t choose it for this list as I found these more Thocky
@@mikeytypes I heard good things about v4 they came out recently, I'm waiting for my order to try them. Thanks 🙏
Verry good noise, clicky sounds like the beating i recive from my dad
Epomaker Peace Lily??
do you mean the epomaker peace lily?
@@mikeytypes Yes that one? Thoughts on it?
@@thestreamreader I haven’t tried those ones, but now I will definitely have to get them!
I love them just ordered a 2nd set very well priced even off Amazon.
@@thestreamreader yeah the price isn’t bad 90 for like 40 dollars Canadian. I’ll definitely try them out I’m already out of my budget for this month on switches but definitely give them a go next month
ah yes the number one is the cherry mx purples who wouldve thought?
a fellow aune yuki enjoyer I see..
Hahaha yes though mine has an issue with static sounds. I use it with my Dita Project M
aw that's a shame to hear. The yuki is one of my favorite dongles ever.
What made you buy the Project M? I didn't really liked it from the couple of times I've tried it out.
@@troved590 I really enjoyed it actually specifically with the Aune Yuki. It’s got really good balance and it’s very accurate to the mix
but what about deepest long pole linear, loud and deep
For myself I’m not a fan of loud switches as much, but is there one you like?
Which thockiest support rgb?
Durock Ice King would be a good one because it’s transparent, but all of them you do see light just it’ll depend on how much light gets through. The Gateron oil king/bubblegum not as much light goes through same goes for the vertex
@@mikeytypes me currently use Vertex v1, the rgb not shining through my keycaps lololol but stock switches do shine through it
@@actimix9 yeah the vertex is very blocked off, but mine very lightly comes through, which is why for like RGB support I wouldn’t go with either the vertex, oil king or bubble gum and stick with the Durock Ice King. They are bit heavier but very smooth and Thocky, but I’m not much of an rgb on my keyboard person unless it’s my gaming keyboard which I have different profile for different games so I use it to know what profile I’m using
@@actimix9 but lately I have been wanting more clacky switches hahaha started to get bored of Thocky
So i also got the Oil Kings, and while i like them, they sound a bit like they would smack. I think its because of too much lube? At 4:42 you even can hear it in the video. Whys that? Since you added lube it cant be the lube?
Sorry, just to confirm you're saying that there is a smack sound because of too much lube? or are you asking where is there like a smack sound on the lubed versions even though it it lubed compared to stock version?
If your boba U4Ts almost feel like a linear, then you've most definitely over-lubed it because it is meant to be very tactile
Sorry should have explained more into it like it feels tactile but very smooth, and I should have said what I was comparing my experience to which is like the Zealios V1 and the Epomaker Budgerigar which had a stronger tactile feel
i upgraded my vertex v1 with a 2 stage long spring and it feels more snappy!
What springs did you get
Try the feker matcha switches and compare it to vertex v1
Still using ks-3 yellows on the main board😅 other is u4t but want to buy v1 as well
The V1 is really nice!
what are those keycaps? they look great!
It’s the Drop skylight Keycaps and then I had some other Keycaps I recently got that I thought would be a good mix that came with a keyboard I got
Your #1 and #3 are basically the same sound signature.
The sound is very similar but the feel is quite different the Vertex V1 feels very smooth compared to the Gateron Blue Bubblegum
Best creamy and marbling sounding switches?
I’m doing a video on creamy soon! For Marbly hmm I would have to really think about it
Just leaving info here for myself in the future
1. Vertex V1
- Nylon Housing
- POM Stem
- 62g Spring
2. Durock Ice King
- Polymer Nylon Housing
- Modified Nylon Stem
- 62g Spring
3. Gateron Oil Kings (Alternative #3)
- Nylon Top
- INK Bottom
- POM Stem
- 55g Spring
3.Gateron Blue Bubblegum
- INK Bottom
- Nylon Top
- POM Stem
- 55g SPring
4. Everglide Aqua King
- PC Housing
- POM Stem
- 62g Spring
5. Boba U4T
- Proprietary Plastic Blend
- 65g Spring
- POM Stem
@@steven-cs8rr would you like me to have this intro in the descriptions part?
@@mikeytypes yes! That works too thank you man
Make top 5 creamiest switches
Yeah I definitely should
Glorious Panda,but hand lubed with dye sub pbt key caps. I have them and oil kings,and oil kings are more creamy to me.
I do have Holy Pandas and found them more clacky, but I should try out the glorious pandas as well
@@mikeytypes Depends of the board and mods also. I use Keychron Q1 with steel plate,tempest mode,pe foam on PCB and i use some kind of fiberfill from aquarium stuff of my girlfriend as it gave me the best sound results :D
@@Wolek96 that sounds interesting! I tried before aerogel foam but it was way too dusty. One thing I do want to do is build my own custom deepest sounding keyboard possible, so lately I’ve been studying up on the theory of sound
@@mikeytypes I suggest you to give fiberfill a try. It’s making keyboard sound amazing. I tried stock foam,sound dampening foam,pillow foam etc and for now fiberfill is straight winner. Now I only want to try silicon dampener,but have to find out from what can I cut good piece.
@@Wolek96 yeah I’ll have to try out fiberfill! Thanks for letting me know. I’ve tried aerogel foam, car sound dampener, keyboard dampeners they sell on Amazon, I even tried playdoh, but so far car sound dampeners for myself worked well
try ttc bluish white
I’ll try it out!
Akko Rosewoods are where it's at
Vertex V1 +2
why does bro sound so zesty
@M1ranimeta 😂
I hear more pop than thock with all of those switches
That’s fair the Thocky sound is very person for me on the Meletrix Zoom75 I find those are Thocky comparatively
Make sure you guys realize that the switch is going to sounds way different from keyboard to keyboard
Yeah, it’ll be different board to board and many different factors will lead to different sounds
i liked
i wanna sub super badly, hes super wholesome but yt WONT LET ME FUCKING SUB. 😭😭
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These aren't really thocky they're more creamy
The line between creamy and Thocky for sure is a thin line. Mostly dependent on keyboard used and personal preference. I personally go with more deeper sounding as Thocky and the feel of the keys itself
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@@mikeytypes 와드만 박았을 뿐인데.....나 설레요.
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Haha thank you
PLS.make the video shorter because everyone only care about the sound
That’s fair, but I think each person looks for something different and some want certain details so having a video with more detail isn’t bad