Great review. It is so important to test out, comparison of your previously thought thocky switches, and what you think now. It’s so helpful you give your thoughts about each switches including introductions on specs/pricing/materials. The wobble test was really helpful too. Lastly, I would like to see thocky tactile video from this channel 🙂.
@@mikeytypes the only one I could think of is Leobog Ice soul, tactile (50gf initial, 30gf actuation). Would be great if you can review. I love how you review and do comparison 😃👍But you’re not a tactile guy.. I hope more viewers are interested in light thocky tactile, this type of switch seems to be really limited out there (mostly clacky ones). Love your channel, keep it going! 👏👏👏
@@gabbychow4026 light tactiles are definitely not bad. I have a few that I have that are decent. Thank you! Trying my best to grow this channel but definitely difficult
I just ordered the Akko Rosewoods! Your review has me extra excited, especially since I’m using them in my Epomaker Galaxy70, which is already fairly creamy/pebbly in sound by design
That's fair the Galaxy Series did a great job with making a marbly sounding keyboard. I had built the 80 for a friend. I used them in the Monsgeek M1V3 and wow they sounded great and even in the MCHOSE GX87 they were great. The only keyboard so far they didn't sound as creamy and nice was the NEO80, but I find the NEO80 is a very clacky style keyboard
@@mikeytypes It would be interesting to see a video of yours suggesting specific sound builds for keyboards! Budget vs splurge; thocky vs marbley/poppy vs clacky
@@_gruntled actually that is a goal video of mine once I have more of a larger collection of things. I wanted to do a guide build depending on the sound someone wants
I appreciate the effort and the detail put into the video, along with the non-lubed/lubed comparisons. I'm glad that in videos after this one you toned down the background music. Off to watch more of your vids!
another amazing review. i love all of these switches but i'd have to say the wuque studio mm switch and the gateron everfree curry switches are my favourite, its really tough to decide.
Thank you for a very consistent and clear test. Well done. It’s hard to decide between thocky and creamy nowadays, and there’s switches all along that spectrum. It’s odd, I guess for me thocky is a distinctly topre sound, and I’m trying to replicate that.
Thocky and creamy really is a very thin line I find almost can be either one. I think now it’s large spectrum of sound choices. I am trying out the Cherry Brown to get the feel of topre but sound hmm yeah that’s difficult. I do want to own myself a HHKB one only got to try the Type Heaven
@@mikeytypes As someone that goes between MX and Topre daily, idk if Cherry Brown really captures all of it. I have an HHKB Type-S, which is pretty close to that sort of quiet and creamy/thocky sound people like. Would recommend as a pickup, especially now that there’s more aftermarket parts for it and such.
This video makes me wonder why Creamy/Thocky tactile switches are so rare in this hobby? especially the budget and mid-range price points seem really bare of any budget creamy/thocky tactile switch
@@gaiaxyc9177 I do want to make a tactile video but I don’t know if I can make a creamy tactile video but I’m trying to get more tactile switches and see if I can find some
I’ve never customized a keyboard. I’ve shopped for a creamy keyboards and have struggled. I decided customization is my best option. This video was very helpful, so thank you. I apologize in advance for this simple question. What product are you using when it’s hand lubed? I’m going to search your channel in the event that you have address this in another video. Thank you for your help.
not a problem at all, honestly when first getting into it of course it feels way more overwhelming. You can definitely ask any questions here I am happy to help! I use krytox 205g0 to hand lube the switches.
I got the milky yellows based off this vid. Put them in my k643 with some moa profile keycaps that THOCK. Amazing video, currently falling down mech keyboard rabbit hole.
The best part about the akko rosewood. They give them "for free" when you buy a keyboard there. I bought the monsgeek m1 v5 (just released 2-3 days ago) with the halloween code it was 150€, the switches alone would have cost me 40-50€ and for another 100€ I got one of the nicest new boards with it.
i gotta say that the gateron everfree curry are some of the smoothest pre-lubed switches i've ever used (over EG aquakings). they're almost as smooth as my hand-lubed epsilons. they're that good. would recommend lol
@@7MINJAE thank you! The keyboard is the MCHOSE GX87 Ultra with Keytok Smile to 90s keycap. Kept everything in the keyboard changed stabilizers to DS Plate Mount stabilizers and then a layer of tape mod that’s all. So stock foams and plate was PC plate
Great video, trying to find a good mechanical keyboard switch that won’t be too loud and obnoxious in an office setting. Do you think these “creamy” type of switches would be a good fit for that?
@@ashleyjurek2765 thank you! Yeah I’ve used this at the office and it works well usually in the office there is other people and other sounds though it may sound loud infront of you it’s actually not that loud, but these switches I found to be like not loud infront and in office
i bought rosewoods and morandis in one go. loved the rosewoods and was so frustrated with the morandis. stem wobble was so horrendous that mods keep depressing when you slightly move your finger (i.e. alt tabbing). i couldnt use them for work without making mistakes. rosewoods on the other hand is very good if you are looking for a deep, muted sound. the downside i think is when you like RGB, as the light looks pink by default due to the housing color.
Thanks for the great video! Im super new to this and there is an overwhelming amount of information to digest but thanks to this video ill be going for the Gateron milky yellow pros i think! They had a quite unique release sound and didnt have such dark sound profile like others in my opinion which i prefer. It also sounded pretty well lubed stock!
@@MrHardTruck they are definitely newer! I do have a short with doing a sound test on another board but I think they are good and upgrade from the milky yellow pros
@mikeytypes Just saw your short! They do sound very nice but i still have no idea how to compare them to the milky ones honestly, still too little data 😕 Honestly at this point i think im forced to buy both haha
@@moonmothh you are correct! Every keyboard is different for sure! Something I really should emphasize more. The keyboard is the MCHOSE GX87 with one layer of tape mod on the back and the keytok Smile to 90s switches but very little mods done. Oh and of course lubed switches
@@mikeytypes MCHOSE is so underrated! they make great builds and no one ever talks about them. I have the K99 and didn't feel the need to mod it, it's definitely my favorite keyboard. This is a great video btw, love how you put the specs on each switch and filmed the difference between stock vs lubed. Bought the Gateron Everfree Curry switches for my aluminum KiiBoom Loop and what a difference. My keyboard sounds like THICC marbly cream. I think it would be even creamier with a polycarbonate plate. Thanks for the upload!
@@moonmothh thank you! Yeah, honestly MCHOSE makes like really good and I would say pretty dang good quality stuff for a more affordable price. I would be interested to see what else they try to bring as they try to reach out more globally
Hello i was hoping you could help me understand creamy and thocky better. You are one reviewer i notice willing to reply, converse and share opinion or ideas That 'buttery' description for 'creamy', does it mean more thicker 'viscous' coated type of sound? I would imagine 3 diy woofer boxes. One coated with honey, one layered with foam, and one empty. Knocking on it, all are deeper sounding but would have their own unique signature frequency pass filter. When introduce a stronger knock 'pop' in, esp higher pitched, these boxes will show its unique characteristics more clearly by how it filters, one that could skew it toward either sounding creamy deeper, darker deeper and open clearer deeper? However if you introduce a deep low thud into the boxes, their characteristics would sound more similar than different. Im just postulating that, you actually need a certain strong knock that also produces high frequencies, like a loud switch in order to show 'thocky' or 'creamy' characteristics clearer and better? But i can imagine you could also just give a low thud on a normal box and it could sound deep too. I apologize in advance 🙏🙇 Am trying understand better and make sense. I was hoping you could chip in your take on it
No need to apologize at all, I think you are getting very close to what I think is the difference between creamy and thocky. Like when you're typing on a "creamy" keyboard the sounds are more in line with each other where it feels like there is a flow to the frequency and not a sudden thud that comes with it. The number one thocky switch I chose the biggest different would be just as you said almost like a high frequency at the end that comes up afterwards when the stem hits the bottom. It has a deep sound profile to it, but has that sudden thump to it. While creamy switches I find have a quieter sound to it and no sudden high frequency that comes up at the end. Sorry I hope that makes sense
@@mikeytypes Do you mean that "Creamy" has more highs filtered out and less open sounding? Maybe more pronounced filtering across both ends of lows and highs happening, perhaps preserving maybe more of the mid freq. I visualize 'thump' as having more reverberation on the low-mids. If so, does it mean that in comparison 'Creamy' sounds more 'compressed' sounding than 'open' sounding at the lows of 'Thocky'? But at the same time 'Creamy' can sound more 'focused" and 'controlled'?
@@mTLpHfumfaomd hmmmm really difficult to like explain in just writing, but I would say that creamy is yes more controlled with holding the sound while thocky has more of a pronounced and louder sound when the stem hits the bottom. But again this is my opinion between the difference as I said in the video too creamy and thocky really comes down to a personal opinion of it as it's an incredibly thin line
@@mikeytypes Do you think the loudness and deepness of sound like thock also comes from the way keyboards are tuned? Maybe especially if housing case are filled with something like foam? And what i notice is it also depends on the surface it sits on. Wooden table will have a great resonant effect. I would imagine it maybe different on other surfaces too
@@mTLpHfumfaomd yeah there is so many factors to it. How much foam, type of foam, thickness of foam, case material, surface it is on, thickness of desk pad, switch material, keycap material and profile as well
@@wilfordjason1 I just lube the stem sides and then the bottom housing and then with left over lube on the brush I put it on the spring. I’m posting a video tomorrow and have a part actually I show how I lube switches
Ktt kang whites are higher pitched creamy and they’re the cheapest btw if you don’t like deeper sound! They’re the best budget switches on the market ONLY you have to lube them or else they’re funky lol
Hi, im liking your videos. The vertex v1 (unrelated to this video, but i do know you have tested it), i am aware that it's an amazing budget linear switch, but, in the video you made of it, there was no rgb test. I was wondering, how well does the rgb work with that switch?
@@mikeytypes thank you for the insight! Also, just another question: how good is the factory lube on the switch? And since it doesn't have RGB support, are there any alternatives you would suggest that are also thocky and creamy like that switch?
@@mikeytypes thanks one again! I've narrowed it down to the milky yellow pros, but I've heard that the stock lubing is not as good as the vertex's and it is also higher pitched and less marbly sounding than the vertex v1. Is this true?
@@recordedanemone6399 it would really depend on the board you are using, I would say that they are slightly sound higher pitched stock compared to the Vertex V1, but I find that the Milky Yellow Pros sound quite like creamy sounding. In my video I also do a stock vs lube around 8:25 which might help you decide?
@@paksoom8756 it’s just the MCHOSE GX87 Ultra. I added one layer of tape mode on the bottom but even that I only did parts of it to not over the areas where the switches connect to
I definitely think keycap profile has an affect. There is definitely impacts depending on like keycap profile, how much foam in the case, and the switch. The Keycaps are the Keytok Smile to 90s which is cherry profilen
I currently own the attack shark k86 it got blue whale swithes, I really enjoy their sound and I believe they are creamy? Just ordered gateron smoothie silver, can't wait to test them. Any idea if the blue whales and smoothies silver are craeamy? I really enjoy smooth, bassy-ish with a bit of a pop sounding profile to switches.
@@danilohernandes7145 i haven’t tried out the blue whale switches, but I wouldn’t put smoothies as a creamy switch but they are like Marbly sounding for sure very smooth comes good stock too and a decently deep sound profile plus the pop sound you like
Whats the other specs of the board? Anything to make it creamier? Because Ive been looking at the rosewoods but they dont sound this good in any other video..
This is just the MCHOSE GX87 with the Keytok smile Keycaps and a layer of tape mod plus lubing the switches, but in terms of the Rosewood when I try them on my other boards too it sounds good
I haven’t tried the piano I would say the rosewood over all of them, but between the three choice Gateron Milky Yellow Pro if you don’t want to hand lube. Ink black if you are good with hand lubing it
Hey! I bought a set of Gateron Everfree Currys from watching your video, but they're really muted and quiet in my Neo65. Are the Morandis and Akko Rosewoods any louder in terms of sheer volume? Also, would removing foam/PE foam make my board a little louder when I'm using the Currys?
Yeah, the switches I have in my creamy switches video are all more on the quiet side if you want something louder I would say maybe the Akko Botany switches would be for you! Yeah for sure try removing the foams first. Foams will dampen the sounds more
Thank you! The Desk Pad you can search Japanese Sakura Desk Pad, it is available on Amazon, but I couldn't find the size I wanted which was the extra large one, Ali also had it at a much larger size
Any recommendations for a creamy/thocky switch? I have had trouble trying to find what would fit the criteria best. I have been in a rabbit hole learning about keyboards and initially found the Wuque MS Morandis. But then I heard about the Gateron Milky yellows and the Gateron Oil Kings. (i am so confused on which to choose, plan to build my Zoom65 V3 from Meletrix)
@@phongpham2549 the Morandi’s sound great but people find that there is very bad stem wobble. I would say go with the Milky yellow pro or Curry switches or even the new Pro Ultra Glory Yellow for creamy switch. If you want Thocky go with the Vertex V1. Or my number one choice the Rosewood for creamy works super well!
What mods did you do to #1/what products did you use to make it (like the entire thing)? I'd like to recreate the entirety of that setup because that sound is my dream keyboard sound, but I'm a novice when it comes to custom keyboards. I see you have the Akko Rosewoods and your switches in the description so I have that; anything else I need (the keyboard base itself, hand lubing)? Any help is appreciated, thanks!
@@Ghostblade956 definitely! So the keyboard itself is the MCHOSE GX87 Ultra. It is a more budget TKL keyboard and the Keycaps is the Smile to the 90s Keycaps from Keytok. I did lube the Rosewood switches as well. I would say if you get all three you will get the most identical sound 😊
@@mikeytypes, I took the rosewood B gx87, thanks for this video, only the caps and stabilizers are not the same, but everything is like yours, because I fell in love with this sound. And I just received mood 007 v3 with a defect))
@@mikeytypes, Yes, I passed it under warranty, my friend has a similar problem with the same keyboard, but he solved it, some pins on the switches were bent.
Hey man, awesome vids, subbed!! Watching them now to get a good idea of your thoughts. Would love to know, what do you think comparing the Gateron Ink Black V2 vs Milky Yellow vs Oil Kings? I'm looking at buying a prebuilt keyboard, and unfortunately the Akko Rosewoods are not a choice. I'll be putting them in a walnut case. Looking for something with a good deep sound, but also smooth feeling and not too loud. Was leaning towards a silent linear at first (possibly Ink V2 Silent Blacks), but hoping I can find something with a bit more sound, while still being quiet enough to use without filling the place with noise. Thank you!!
Thanks for subbing! So the three you mentioned are different in terms of feel. Ink blacks aren’t as smooth feeling as the other two. Oil kings feels very smooth but I find not as deep as the ink blacks. The Milky yellow is like a good between of the three. Ink blacks quiet and deep can feel a bit not smooth. Milky yellow pro feels smooth and quiet. Oil king a bit louder smooth, but not as deep especially depending on the board.
@@mikeytypes Hey, awesome summary, thank you! The board I'm looking at is the KBDfans Dusk 67. I should have mentioned that before! Based on what I'm looking for, what combination of switch/plate material would you recommend with this case? I can choose between Aluminum (I guess too stiff), carbon, FR4, and PC. Trying to get that nice combo of smooth, quiet, and deep sound! Thanks for your input, will be a big expense lol so want to make sure! I'm still watching so many videos, your advice is really helpful here! :D
@@mikeytypes Got it, thank you! How do you think the wood material of the case would affect the sound? I'm wondering if the fact that it's wood would help me decide between these 3 switches! Having a really hard time deciding 😂
@@tqd2008 do you plan to hand lube? I did try the AK820 for a short time and stock switch sounded good it was with the sea salt switches. but I think for it to be more creamy sounding you will have to hand lube it. My friend has one and I changed it out for the WS Morandi and it sounded good
May you please share the 40gram triggered-pressure of Akko Rosewood is it so light to your normal typing style, I am using 45gram and so admire to the sound test that you made for this video (specially the no. 1 Akko rosewood)? Thanks :)
The Akko actuates really quick supposed to be a 2mm I really enjoy the switch. I really enjoy a light switch and these are great. In terms of sound and feel
@@mikeytypes Hi Mike, I am back to this video and want to share with you that I have purchased full 88 switches Akko Rosewood for my MChose GX87 (this is my first mechanical keyboard). My current ones on the GX87 are HMX Ziwei (lubed) that I purchased from online Keyboard shop in Vietnam - they are so stable, thocky and noisy, sometimes I made a conference call with my clients while Work From Home, I feel quite embarrassed as the sound is so noisy combined with my presentation and speaking on the microphone :S. I am happy and feeling lucky to watch your video as you did tested the all creamy switches on GX87 that I can image the sound, smoothness and decide which is best for me to upgrade the sound. I also did bought 1 switch of Wuque Morandi (lubed) for my Left Ctrl button - as in Vietnam e-commerce shops that they also offer for 01 single switch + lubed selling option to buyer :) and it's so true to your video that this switch presents the creamy sound but with strong shaking when full pressing it (uncertainty feeling when I am hold Ctrl button for a while). [Reason to choose Wuque Morandi for the 1st test is 60gram force & much cheaper than Aqua King v3 on the same 60gram force] Thus, I decided to buy Akko rosewood for another try. Finally, this is so great purchasing for my all 88 Akko rosewood (lubed) switches. The sound is exactly to what you are described, it is creamy, smooth and quiet (but not silent) and they are so so stable when fully pressing. I really really love them. Big thanks and support your for upcoming projects with Keyboard reviews!
It’s still an Indiegogo, so I can’t say 100% that it’ll be a safe purchase. The only reason I give the MCHOSE a little more trust compared to Wobkey is that they’ve been around for a while and even made a dedicated software hub for it. I would say for $100 you can’t go wrong with the MCHOSE honestly it’s not like the Rainy75 which is packed with foam and whatever switch you put in will sound Thocky, but much easier to take apart and sounds good. Also, I found that I now use it as my main keyboard
@@mikeytypes The rainy75, bridge75 and mchose is almost the same price here in my country local e-commerce. I wanna replace my Hi75 with something with wireless capability should i go with this? i was also looking at the galaxy80
@@Typerist I haven’t tried the Bridge75 and the Rainy75 sounds amazing is great and all but I find the quality control just wasn’t amazing… and customer service as well. Only reason I personally don’t tell people to get a Rainy75 until that’s all fixed. I would say best to choose do you want TKL or 75%. I would say MCHOSE > Galaxy80.
Hmm I’m not sure I haven’t actually tried enough tactile switches to for sure say one of my goals right now is to try a lot more tactile switches and make a video with my favorite top 5
what does hand lubed mean? how do i get it to sound like that instead of the stock that sounds worse? please tell me its not like some complicated keyboard modding
@@bluefacebaby3714 hand lubing is just lubing the switches so like you’d need a switch opener I recommended getting krytox 205g0 and then a brush and just light lubing the stems of each switch
@@Oozaru85 the first one is the Meletrix Zoom75 second is the MCHOSE GX87. Out of that list best would be curry switches or Gateron Milky Yellow or the Everglide aqua kings
@@mikeytypes I tested the Milky Yellow Pro and didnt like them. I mean, I liked the sound but they barely let any backlight through. Will have to give the non pro version a try then. Thanks.
@@mikeytypes thank you. I'll save up for that. Its pricey af for me 😂 getting the rosewood & aqua king based on ur recommendation. And also the mchose gx87 also from ur recommendation. 😂
@@jmy976 yeah that’s fair the hobby is incredibly expensive I find as well. Another option could be the Monsgeek M1V3 if you don’t need wireless or the Leobog hi75
@@mikeytypes oh i have alrdy signed up for the mchose gx87 ultra campaign. and bought the rosewood & aquaking switches cz they were on sale!! thank you Mikey!!
I personally love the sound of creamy switches, I'm curious how you all feel about whether creamy switches would be appropriate for an office setting. My only exposure to creamy switches is in video so I have no frame of reference for how they would sound in a room.
For the ones in my video I’ve used them at an office during work and it’s not too loud. Sound is quite interesting as it’s louder infront of you but in the office there will be a lot of other surrounding sounds and the waves don’t travel as far as you’d think so it’s quieter around you. Also membrane keyboard are usually louder
Are you using the same keyboard? It will definitely be different per keyboard, but I would say I lube mine like enough that you can see the shine from the lube but not so much that it leaves globs of lube
@@mikeytypes no its not the same. im rocking an old drop ctrl ive had since around covid but im about to bring this to work and i just ordered a rainy75 for home.. and then i also impulse bought a purple womier sk71 too so im hoping one of those sound better.
@@Lil-Cheddar the rainy will definitely sound better in general the rainy75 makes switches like Thocky sounding. The Womier I’m not too sure on though.
@@tigris4149a2 i should have removed the sound but the beginning wasn’t really meant for sound test but more my explanation of my thoughts of creamy vs Thocky next time I know to improve the video
AKKO V3 Piano Pro Switch? I don’t (yet) own it, but in all the sample videos it sounds creamy (or is it marble-y)? 😞 I don’t know anymore. All the descriptions are starting to overlap.😣
@@TwilightTypingASMR I haven’t actually tried the piano switches, I should try it and see. I’m currently waiting on the new Akko Botany ones which I’m excited for
I own a set of the Akko V3 Piano Pros. They’re more of a muted clacky type of switch, even on my intentionally creamy builds. They can be marbly and a little creamy, but not nearly as good as any of the switches on this list. Get the Akko Creamy series, or better yet the Akko Rosewoods. They
@@_gruntled your response got cut off, but I think the main point made it. I appreciate your insight and thoughts; will look at trying the Akko Cream series - in addition to the Rosewood. Thanks!
@@_gruntled The Rosewoods is really the best switch Akko has made honestly. The Botany switches are currently on the way for me it will be interesting to try it out
@@mikeytypes I’m looking to order some ceramic keys to go with the wooden board and the rosewood switches, but lots of the ceramic keys are out of stock. Also, not sure if (by going with cerakeys) if I’m introducing a higher pitch sound and a glassy feel instead of the stock AKKO keys, which I assume have a matte-like finish, and possibly lower muted sound. Not that either of you care, but figured I’d share… I keep going back and forth with adding the cream AKKO switch series, if Rosewood is really the sound/feel I think I’m trying to attain.
@@JustGeeked good question! It does I mean too be fair you can use any keyboard for gaming and still do well. Of course these aren’t like the new Hall Effect keyboards that provide very specific gaming features but with 1000hz polling rate or more it’s more than enough for gaming and just feels and sounds good while using it 😊 except for like Apex I usually just use my customs for games
![[Cozy ASMR] 3h typing on ceramic - 5 different keyboards ☁️✨](/img/n.gif)
dude knows his stuff
absolute banger
@@shiroryuichi3762 thank you!
That hand lubed "number 5" is.. HEAVEN for my ears!
Question! Were all the switches lubed with number 5? When you typed on it?
Great review. It is so important to test out, comparison of your previously thought thocky switches, and what you think now. It’s so helpful you give your thoughts about each switches including introductions on specs/pricing/materials. The wobble test was really helpful too. Lastly, I would like to see thocky tactile video from this channel 🙂.
@@gabbychow4026 thank you! Any Thocky tactile suggestions?
@@mikeytypes the only one I could think of is Leobog Ice soul, tactile (50gf initial, 30gf actuation). Would be great if you can review. I love how you review and do comparison 😃👍But you’re not a tactile guy.. I hope more viewers are interested in light thocky tactile, this type of switch seems to be really limited out there (mostly clacky ones). Love your channel, keep it going! 👏👏👏
@@gabbychow4026 light tactiles are definitely not bad. I have a few that I have that are decent. Thank you! Trying my best to grow this channel but definitely difficult
@@mikeytypes leobog juggle V2 is a nice thocky tactile :)
@ thanks! Something I should try out! 😊
It's so interesting how creamy is such an appropriate word for that sound.
hahaha it is true, that was my though originally before
Ngl, the stocks sounds so good and tickles my brain a lot 🧠😩
@@jaustinnn which one?
@@mikeytypesAqua King & Everyfree. Both are my absolute favorite from this list!
@@jaustinnn those are good ones! I think both stock come well done, but definitely like it more after lubing them
dude, i could listen to videos like this all day, true PC asmr
I just ordered the Akko Rosewoods! Your review has me extra excited, especially since I’m using them in my Epomaker Galaxy70, which is already fairly creamy/pebbly in sound by design
That's fair the Galaxy Series did a great job with making a marbly sounding keyboard. I had built the 80 for a friend. I used them in the Monsgeek M1V3 and wow they sounded great and even in the MCHOSE GX87 they were great. The only keyboard so far they didn't sound as creamy and nice was the NEO80, but I find the NEO80 is a very clacky style keyboard
@@mikeytypes How loud would you say the Rosewoods are to your ears? I read somewhere that they're rather quiet apparently
@@_gruntled yeah they are quite quiet I find. Of course not like silent switches but on the quieter side of regular switches
@@mikeytypes It would be interesting to see a video of yours suggesting specific sound builds for keyboards! Budget vs splurge; thocky vs marbley/poppy vs clacky
@@_gruntled actually that is a goal video of mine once I have more of a larger collection of things. I wanted to do a guide build depending on the sound someone wants
I appreciate the effort and the detail put into the video, along with the non-lubed/lubed comparisons. I'm glad that in videos after this one you toned down the background music. Off to watch more of your vids!
@@derekvadneau thank you! Any feedback I get I want to make sure I listen not get offended ever and really try to implement to fix and improve
The ink switch gives a unique sound though your lubing makes it creamy. Interesting. Great vid!
Thank you!
I scrolled down so far and bro replied to so many comments, best community interaction
Hahaha thank you! I try my best to try and respond to every question/comment!
AGREED!! we really a discord group!!
@@jmy976 haha learning and looking into trying to start a discord
another amazing review. i love all of these switches but i'd have to say the wuque studio mm switch and the gateron everfree curry switches are my favourite, its really tough to decide.
@@Koperoki thank you! 😊 definitely difficult choice haha but the MM switches you will need to hand lube and put together
@@mikeytypes thats changed my mind then, im a newbie when it comes to switches so i dont think i would be good building them
@@Koperoki not hard though! just have to put it together I actually have a video on the MM switches though the series ended early
came across this video AFTER ordering the ws morandi and I might have to get the rosewoods after seeing/hearing this
the Morandi aren't bad sounds amazing just has the stem wobble issue specifically you'll feel it most when pressed down
Have you tried filming the morandis? Does it help with the stem wobble?
@ I haven’t tried filming them, but thinking about how filming the switches work I don’t think it will help much in terms of the stem wobble
#3 hit the spot for me!
you're video is the best i've found to compare switches with consistency, Thank you so much!!
@@EMIVIY thank you!! 😊
I like the fact that you list the audio equipment you use!
Thank you!
Thank you for a very consistent and clear test. Well done. It’s hard to decide between thocky and creamy nowadays, and there’s switches all along that spectrum. It’s odd, I guess for me thocky is a distinctly topre sound, and I’m trying to replicate that.
Thocky and creamy really is a very thin line I find almost can be either one. I think now it’s large spectrum of sound choices. I am trying out the Cherry Brown to get the feel of topre but sound hmm yeah that’s difficult. I do want to own myself a HHKB one only got to try the Type Heaven
@@mikeytypes As someone that goes between MX and Topre daily, idk if Cherry Brown really captures all of it. I have an HHKB Type-S, which is pretty close to that sort of quiet and creamy/thocky sound people like. Would recommend as a pickup, especially now that there’s more aftermarket parts for it and such.
@@krokenlochen yeah I was considering the hybrid type s but definitely expensive haha seeing if it’s cheaper in Japan to try and grab one
Mikey you have the best cream, switch recommendations
Thanks! Really tried to get a good list
Great video! I wish the music in the intro was a bit quieter for the sound test, but other than that thanks for the awesome video!
Thank you! Yes, I should have reduced the music in the intro portion now I know for next time though!😁
I bought the akko rosewoods for my neo 80 and OMGGG I LOVE THEM SO MUCHHH!! Thankyou so much for the video!!
Awesome!
This video makes me wonder why Creamy/Thocky tactile switches are so rare in this hobby? especially the budget and mid-range price points seem really bare of any budget creamy/thocky tactile switch
@@OgSwisszyed that’s fair! I think maybe because of the popularity and that there are more who like linear
@@mikeytypesAre there any creamy tactiles you know of? Or you plan on making a video on maybe ? (Please)
@@gaiaxyc9177 I do want to make a tactile video but I don’t know if I can make a creamy tactile video but I’m trying to get more tactile switches and see if I can find some
@mikeytypes any creamy tactile recommendations at this point, though? I'm going to build one soon
Leaving a comment here to be updated on the creamy/thocky tactile switch options 😂
this was the exact video i needed, thank you man
glad it helped!
Hello, this comparison was really cool and precise, i was wondering, which is the butteriest to the touch of these 5?
Thank you! I would say in terms of feel the Gateron curry or milky yellow I would say but Akko Rosewood second
What about the Aquaking? is the feeling similar or is less buttery? Thank for the answer btw!
@@josephmaglione6574 the aquakings are good too! I would say similar
I’ve never customized a keyboard. I’ve shopped for a creamy keyboards and have struggled. I decided customization is my best option. This video was very helpful, so thank you.
I apologize in advance for this simple question. What product are you using when it’s hand lubed? I’m going to search your channel in the event that you have address this in another video. Thank you for your help.
not a problem at all, honestly when first getting into it of course it feels way more overwhelming. You can definitely ask any questions here I am happy to help! I use krytox 205g0 to hand lube the switches.
@@mikeytypes ♥Thank you!
@@paulatarver6952 you’ll also need a switch opener and brush
I got the milky yellows based off this vid. Put them in my k643 with some moa profile keycaps that THOCK. Amazing video, currently falling down mech keyboard rabbit hole.
@@masterofbuttercream hahaha it is a fun but definitely chaotic and expensive hole
the akko rosewoods are my favorite switch ive tried in a long time.
@@benjaminprice6935 yeah they are really nice
The best part about the akko rosewood. They give them "for free" when you buy a keyboard there. I bought the monsgeek m1 v5 (just released 2-3 days ago) with the halloween code it was 150€, the switches alone would have cost me 40-50€ and for another 100€ I got one of the nicest new boards with it.
also bought the m1 v5 white baredone just today, hope it sounds good for that price, still a noob in this hobby, don't even know where to start
i gotta say that the gateron everfree curry are some of the smoothest pre-lubed switches i've ever used (over EG aquakings). they're almost as smooth as my hand-lubed epsilons. they're that good. would recommend lol
Yeah the curry is really good that’s for sure!
Thank you so much for this! Creamy is dreamy!
super helpful vid! could you share the specs of your keyboard? ex. plate material, foams or no foams, etc.
@@7MINJAE thank you! The keyboard is the MCHOSE GX87 Ultra with Keytok Smile to 90s keycap. Kept everything in the keyboard changed stabilizers to DS Plate Mount stabilizers and then a layer of tape mod that’s all. So stock foams and plate was PC plate
From sound alone I'd switch 3 (curry) and 2. They all sound pretty nice ^^
Would you say rose woods are deeper than lavenders?
@@rengokusats which lavender switches?
Great video, trying to find a good mechanical keyboard switch that won’t be too loud and obnoxious in an office setting. Do you think these “creamy” type of switches would be a good fit for that?
@@ashleyjurek2765 thank you! Yeah I’ve used this at the office and it works well usually in the office there is other people and other sounds though it may sound loud infront of you it’s actually not that loud, but these switches I found to be like not loud infront and in office
i bought rosewoods and morandis in one go. loved the rosewoods and was so frustrated with the morandis. stem wobble was so horrendous that mods keep depressing when you slightly move your finger (i.e. alt tabbing). i couldnt use them for work without making mistakes.
rosewoods on the other hand is very good if you are looking for a deep, muted sound. the downside i think is when you like RGB, as the light looks pink by default due to the housing color.
@@jasonmxx glad you like the rosewood! Yeah the Morandi really have some bad stem wobble
Thanks for the great video! Im super new to this and there is an overwhelming amount of information to digest but thanks to this video ill be going for the Gateron milky yellow pros i think! They had a quite unique release sound and didnt have such dark sound profile like others in my opinion which i prefer. It also sounded pretty well lubed stock!
@@MrHardTruck yeah there is so much info out there. Actually I would maybe suggest getting the Gateron Pro Ultra Glory Yellow instead
@@mikeytypes Thanks for the suggestion! Are they rather new? I was not able to find much sound data on them to compare it 😕
@@MrHardTruck they are definitely newer! I do have a short with doing a sound test on another board but I think they are good and upgrade from the milky yellow pros
@mikeytypes Just saw your short! They do sound very nice but i still have no idea how to compare them to the milky ones honestly, still too little data 😕 Honestly at this point i think im forced to buy both haha
@@MrHardTruck that’s fair but yeah form my experience the Pro Ultra Glory is an upgrade
drop the keyboard mods too. these may sound creamy on your keeb but will sound clacky on another. really love hearing the comparisons!
@@moonmothh you are correct! Every keyboard is different for sure! Something I really should emphasize more. The keyboard is the MCHOSE GX87 with one layer of tape mod on the back and the keytok Smile to 90s switches but very little mods done. Oh and of course lubed switches
@@mikeytypes MCHOSE is so underrated! they make great builds and no one ever talks about them. I have the K99 and didn't feel the need to mod it, it's definitely my favorite keyboard. This is a great video btw, love how you put the specs on each switch and filmed the difference between stock vs lubed. Bought the Gateron Everfree Curry switches for my aluminum KiiBoom Loop and what a difference. My keyboard sounds like THICC marbly cream. I think it would be even creamier with a polycarbonate plate. Thanks for the upload!
@@moonmothh thank you! Yeah, honestly MCHOSE makes like really good and I would say pretty dang good quality stuff for a more affordable price. I would be interested to see what else they try to bring as they try to reach out more globally
Hey! I type for a living in a transcription office and we're all hooked on Akko Creamy purple pro! Would love to see your take on it
Ohhh that’s so interesting! Actually I did a video with the Creamy Purple Pro in my Monsgeek M1V3 review video 😊
hand lubed No. 5 is crazy creamy I need these
@@moonmothh it is really nice
Hello i was hoping you could help me understand creamy and thocky better. You are one reviewer i notice willing to reply, converse and share opinion or ideas
That 'buttery' description for 'creamy', does it mean more thicker 'viscous' coated type of sound?
I would imagine 3 diy woofer boxes. One coated with honey, one layered with foam, and one empty. Knocking on it, all are deeper sounding but would have their own unique signature frequency pass filter.
When introduce a stronger knock 'pop' in, esp higher pitched, these boxes will show its unique characteristics more clearly by how it filters, one that could skew it toward either sounding creamy deeper, darker deeper and open clearer deeper?
However if you introduce a deep low thud into the boxes, their characteristics would sound more similar than different.
Im just postulating that, you actually need a certain strong knock that also produces high frequencies, like a loud switch in order to show 'thocky' or 'creamy' characteristics clearer and better?
But i can imagine you could also just give a low thud on a normal box and it could sound deep too.
I apologize in advance 🙏🙇 Am trying understand better and make sense. I was hoping you could chip in your take on it
No need to apologize at all, I think you are getting very close to what I think is the difference between creamy and thocky. Like when you're typing on a "creamy" keyboard the sounds are more in line with each other where it feels like there is a flow to the frequency and not a sudden thud that comes with it. The number one thocky switch I chose the biggest different would be just as you said almost like a high frequency at the end that comes up afterwards when the stem hits the bottom. It has a deep sound profile to it, but has that sudden thump to it. While creamy switches I find have a quieter sound to it and no sudden high frequency that comes up at the end. Sorry I hope that makes sense
@@mikeytypes Do you mean that "Creamy" has more highs filtered out and less open sounding? Maybe more pronounced filtering across both ends of lows and highs happening, perhaps preserving maybe more of the mid freq. I visualize 'thump' as having more reverberation on the low-mids. If so, does it mean that in comparison 'Creamy' sounds more 'compressed' sounding than 'open' sounding at the lows of 'Thocky'? But at the same time 'Creamy' can sound more 'focused" and 'controlled'?
@@mTLpHfumfaomd hmmmm really difficult to like explain in just writing, but I would say that creamy is yes more controlled with holding the sound while thocky has more of a pronounced and louder sound when the stem hits the bottom. But again this is my opinion between the difference as I said in the video too creamy and thocky really comes down to a personal opinion of it as it's an incredibly thin line
@@mikeytypes Do you think the loudness and deepness of sound like thock also comes from the way keyboards are tuned? Maybe especially if housing case are filled with something like foam? And what i notice is it also depends on the surface it sits on. Wooden table will have a great resonant effect. I would imagine it maybe different on other surfaces too
@@mTLpHfumfaomd yeah there is so many factors to it. How much foam, type of foam, thickness of foam, case material, surface it is on, thickness of desk pad, switch material, keycap material and profile as well
Hi Mikey, may i ask how you lube your switches? These sound phenomenal!
@@wilfordjason1 I just lube the stem sides and then the bottom housing and then with left over lube on the brush I put it on the spring. I’m posting a video tomorrow and have a part actually I show how I lube switches
Hello just checking which keycaps are you using, I do like that color concept with creamy with orange gray blue
@@zientizt11 I really like these Keycaps they feel really nice and sound great it’s from Keytok the Smile series
Man those sound great, which spring did you pick for number 5?
@@late-nine it was the wuque studio 53g
Ktt kang whites are higher pitched creamy and they’re the cheapest btw if you don’t like deeper sound! They’re the best budget switches on the market ONLY you have to lube them or else they’re funky lol
KTT Kang definitely a good one very budget for sure. Only thing is hard to open haha
Of all of these, would you say that there are any that would be bad for gaming? Not too easy to press, not too difficult for finger exhaustion, etc?
@@ssicamon1927 hmmm maybe the Ink Blacks just because of the weight of the spring
Number 3 curry switch was the best imo
Came here for the keyboard sound, little did I know im more drawn to his calming voice. Lmao!!
@@schazya hahaha thank you
Merci pour cette vidéo ! Le son crémeux est tellement doux, j'adore. J'espère que c'est compatible avec mon Keychron K7 Pro, j'adorerais !
Malheureusement, c'est un clavier à profil bas, donc ça ne fonctionnerait pas🥲J'espère qu'une version à profil bas sortira
Hi, im liking your videos. The vertex v1 (unrelated to this video, but i do know you have tested it), i am aware that it's an amazing budget linear switch, but, in the video you made of it, there was no rgb test. I was wondering, how well does the rgb work with that switch?
@@recordedanemone6399 thank you! The vertex V1 light isn’t the greatest honestly. You get very little light coming through
@@mikeytypes thank you for the insight! Also, just another question: how good is the factory lube on the switch? And since it doesn't have RGB support, are there any alternatives you would suggest that are also thocky and creamy like that switch?
@@recordedanemone6399 I would say the Aqua kings would be a good bet or Gateron Milky Yellow pros
@@mikeytypes thanks one again! I've narrowed it down to the milky yellow pros, but I've heard that the stock lubing is not as good as the vertex's and it is also higher pitched and less marbly sounding than the vertex v1. Is this true?
@@recordedanemone6399 it would really depend on the board you are using, I would say that they are slightly sound higher pitched stock compared to the Vertex V1, but I find that the Milky Yellow Pros sound quite like creamy sounding. In my video I also do a stock vs lube around 8:25 which might help you decide?
i have extra rosewoods for my next build, but i cant decide between the lucky65 or the gmk87 for my next build
That is two very different boards. But depending on budget you should check other options too
@@mikeytypes yeaa, its just that idk if i should go for a budget alu or plastic with a screen and a knob. love your vids btw!
@@alexw5042 thank you! Hmm that is a hard one. I usually prefer aluminum builds for the weight
my favourite is the stock gateron ef curry
Hi! What are the specs of your keyboard? I think it really helps in making the switches sound thocky and creamy
@@paksoom8756 it’s just the MCHOSE GX87 Ultra. I added one layer of tape mode on the bottom but even that I only did parts of it to not over the areas where the switches connect to
@@mikeytypes alright thank you!
@@paksoom8756 oh also sorry using the Smile Keycaps from Keytok which may also be helping
Well done on vid, thanks for sharing!
Thank you!
while i find thock good and im in love with creamy keyboards i find a combo of the 2 is the best
@@jessemast2843 that’s fair! Thock and creamy mix is good
Can you start a Discord so the community can have some (relatively quick) exchange of keyboard ideas and such?
@@TwilightTypingASMR I can definitely look into that! I haven’t ever managed my own discord so I’ll have to really learn on it first
Do you find that keycap profile has a large affect on the creaminess and sound? What profile keycaps are you using in this video?
I definitely think keycap profile has an affect. There is definitely impacts depending on like keycap profile, how much foam in the case, and the switch. The Keycaps are the Keytok Smile to 90s which is cherry profilen
I currently own the attack shark k86 it got blue whale swithes, I really enjoy their sound and I believe they are creamy? Just ordered gateron smoothie silver, can't wait to test them. Any idea if the blue whales and smoothies silver are craeamy? I really enjoy smooth, bassy-ish with a bit of a pop sounding profile to switches.
@@danilohernandes7145 i haven’t tried out the blue whale switches, but I wouldn’t put smoothies as a creamy switch but they are like Marbly sounding for sure very smooth comes good stock too and a decently deep sound profile plus the pop sound you like
Great video. Would like to hear what u think of the bsun taro switch from knc. Keep up the good work!
@@JohnWick2077s thank you! I’ll have to get them and try
I wanna know, did you mod your keyboard or is it stock? If so what mods did you do?
Just a layer of tape mod, but not other mods than that
Good stuff !
Whats the other specs of the board? Anything to make it creamier? Because Ive been looking at the rosewoods but they dont sound this good in any other video..
This is just the MCHOSE GX87 with the Keytok smile Keycaps and a layer of tape mod plus lubing the switches, but in terms of the Rosewood when I try them on my other boards too it sounds good
between Piano v3 pro, ink black, gat creamy yellow pro which one would you prefer?
I haven’t tried the piano I would say the rosewood over all of them, but between the three choice Gateron Milky Yellow Pro if you don’t want to hand lube. Ink black if you are good with hand lubing it
Hmm that's what I need. I use Gateron Clears but now that i have a new keyboard want new switches and the clears have major wobble to them!
@@jonahjameson272 you are thinking about switching to the Aquakings?
Hey! I bought a set of Gateron Everfree Currys from watching your video, but they're really muted and quiet in my Neo65. Are the Morandis and Akko Rosewoods any louder in terms of sheer volume? Also, would removing foam/PE foam make my board a little louder when I'm using the Currys?
Yeah, the switches I have in my creamy switches video are all more on the quiet side if you want something louder I would say maybe the Akko Botany switches would be for you! Yeah for sure try removing the foams first. Foams will dampen the sounds more
Good video, I need that mousepad where to by?
Thank you! The Desk Pad you can search Japanese Sakura Desk Pad, it is available on Amazon, but I couldn't find the size I wanted which was the extra large one, Ali also had it at a much larger size
Any recommendations for a creamy/thocky switch? I have had trouble trying to find what would fit the criteria best. I have been in a rabbit hole learning about keyboards and initially found the Wuque MS Morandis. But then I heard about the Gateron Milky yellows and the Gateron Oil Kings. (i am so confused on which to choose, plan to build my Zoom65 V3 from Meletrix)
@@phongpham2549 the Morandi’s sound great but people find that there is very bad stem wobble. I would say go with the Milky yellow pro or Curry switches or even the new Pro Ultra Glory Yellow for creamy switch. If you want Thocky go with the Vertex V1. Or my number one choice the Rosewood for creamy works super well!
What mods did you do to #1/what products did you use to make it (like the entire thing)? I'd like to recreate the entirety of that setup because that sound is my dream keyboard sound, but I'm a novice when it comes to custom keyboards. I see you have the Akko Rosewoods and your switches in the description so I have that; anything else I need (the keyboard base itself, hand lubing)? Any help is appreciated, thanks!
@@Ghostblade956 definitely! So the keyboard itself is the MCHOSE GX87 Ultra. It is a more budget TKL keyboard and the Keycaps is the Smile to the 90s Keycaps from Keytok. I did lube the Rosewood switches as well. I would say if you get all three you will get the most identical sound 😊
@@mikeytypes, I took the rosewood B gx87, thanks for this video, only the caps and stabilizers are not the same, but everything is like yours, because I fell in love with this sound. And I just received mood 007 v3 with a defect))
@ have you tried reaching out to Akko?
@@mikeytypes,
Yes, I passed it under warranty, my friend has a similar problem with the same keyboard, but he solved it, some pins on the switches were bent.
@ what issues were you having?
What lube did you use for the Akko Rosewood switches
I use Krytox 205g0
Hey man, awesome vids, subbed!! Watching them now to get a good idea of your thoughts. Would love to know, what do you think comparing the Gateron Ink Black V2 vs Milky Yellow vs Oil Kings? I'm looking at buying a prebuilt keyboard, and unfortunately the Akko Rosewoods are not a choice. I'll be putting them in a walnut case. Looking for something with a good deep sound, but also smooth feeling and not too loud. Was leaning towards a silent linear at first (possibly Ink V2 Silent Blacks), but hoping I can find something with a bit more sound, while still being quiet enough to use without filling the place with noise. Thank you!!
Thanks for subbing! So the three you mentioned are different in terms of feel. Ink blacks aren’t as smooth feeling as the other two. Oil kings feels very smooth but I find not as deep as the ink blacks. The Milky yellow is like a good between of the three. Ink blacks quiet and deep can feel a bit not smooth. Milky yellow pro feels smooth and quiet. Oil king a bit louder smooth, but not as deep especially depending on the board.
@@mikeytypes Hey, awesome summary, thank you! The board I'm looking at is the KBDfans Dusk 67. I should have mentioned that before! Based on what I'm looking for, what combination of switch/plate material would you recommend with this case? I can choose between Aluminum (I guess too stiff), carbon, FR4, and PC. Trying to get that nice combo of smooth, quiet, and deep sound!
Thanks for your input, will be a big expense lol so want to make sure! I'm still watching so many videos, your advice is really helpful here! :D
@@JeremyPass out of the choice FR4 or PC would be best. FR4 will be a bit more stiff than PC but from my experience both are good for thockier sound.
@@mikeytypes Got it, thank you! How do you think the wood material of the case would affect the sound? I'm wondering if the fact that it's wood would help me decide between these 3 switches! Having a really hard time deciding 😂
@@JeremyPass hmmm not sure I haven’t tried the dusk67 I’ve tried only the Akko MU01 and the MU01 sounds amazing
What about Gateron oil king?
@@matteonegridev I personally find the Oilking more on the Thocky side but they are also like kind of creamy sounding as well
do you know which of the ajazz switches would be creamy? moon, gift, flying fish, avocado etc - help would be much appreciated!
Hmmm I haven't actually tried the Ajazz switches, are you looking at a specific board you are getting?
@@mikeytypes yep, the ajazz ak820 max keyboard, but if the stock switches aren’t good i can go with a different model
@@tqd2008 do you plan to hand lube? I did try the AK820 for a short time and stock switch sounded good it was with the sea salt switches. but I think for it to be more creamy sounding you will have to hand lube it. My friend has one and I changed it out for the WS Morandi and it sounded good
lubing really does so much
Yeah, I would say most of the times it makes it better
I like the one @8:40 the best when it comes to purely sound.
Hey, just out of curiosity, are Akko v3 Creamy Pro not creamy enough for your line up?
I actually found them to be more Thocky
May you please share the 40gram triggered-pressure of Akko Rosewood is it so light to your normal typing style, I am using 45gram and so admire to the sound test that you made for this video (specially the no. 1 Akko rosewood)? Thanks :)
The Akko actuates really quick supposed to be a 2mm I really enjoy the switch. I really enjoy a light switch and these are great. In terms of sound and feel
@@mikeytypes Hi Mike, I am back to this video and want to share with you that I have purchased full 88 switches Akko Rosewood for my MChose GX87 (this is my first mechanical keyboard). My current ones on the GX87 are HMX Ziwei (lubed) that I purchased from online Keyboard shop in Vietnam - they are so stable, thocky and noisy, sometimes I made a conference call with my clients while Work From Home, I feel quite embarrassed as the sound is so noisy combined with my presentation and speaking on the microphone :S.
I am happy and feeling lucky to watch your video as you did tested the all creamy switches on GX87 that I can image the sound, smoothness and decide which is best for me to upgrade the sound.
I also did bought 1 switch of Wuque Morandi (lubed) for my Left Ctrl button - as in Vietnam e-commerce shops that they also offer for 01 single switch + lubed selling option to buyer :) and it's so true to your video that this switch presents the creamy sound but with strong shaking when full pressing it (uncertainty feeling when I am hold Ctrl button for a while). [Reason to choose Wuque Morandi for the 1st test is 60gram force & much cheaper than Aqua King v3 on the same 60gram force]
Thus, I decided to buy Akko rosewood for another try.
Finally, this is so great purchasing for my all 88 Akko rosewood (lubed) switches. The sound is exactly to what you are described, it is creamy, smooth and quiet (but not silent) and they are so so stable when fully pressing. I really really love them.
Big thanks and support your for upcoming projects with Keyboard reviews!
hey mikey, what profile keycaps do you prefer?
@@boostxXxpower I usually just get cherry profile because it’s what I’m most used to, but SA profile is also nice for typing
@ ngl every time I get cherry profile pbt caps they sound clacky, but I hear others and they sound like creamy marbles
@ that’s with the same switches and same keyboard?
@@mikeytypes yea, idk maybe I’m watching videos that have their mics adjusted just right to change the sound?
@@boostxXxpower it possibly could be that, but hmmm what board and switches are you using?
Which one do you prefer vertex v1 or akko rosewood?
@@ffnn2647 right now I’d have to say my favorite is the Rosewood
@mikeytypes Thank you! I will buy akko rosewood. And i liked your videos it's very detailed!
@ thank you 😊
Gateron Smoothies 🖖🏻
Great switches but I just don’t find them creamy sounding
Gateron Oil kings
@@iannyllsarte3300 another good one for sure but I found them to be more Thocky
Where did you get the mat?
@@lanpaule3428 I got mine from Aliexpress for the xxl size
The akko rosewoods are more thocky than creamy on my keyboard (ND75), did I do something wrong?
@@NuclearCashew nothing you did wrong it really can depend on the keyboard, have you lubed the switches? Also did you modify your ND75?
Why ig about stock rosewood is better than hand lubed???
on instagram?
03:54 hmm… both sound very nice.
plz what is nummber 1 that you used direct after the intro ? plz give me a link to buy it !
do you mean in the beginning of the video? The Vertex V1? You should go check out my top thocky switches video!
@@mikeytypes yes
@@mikeytypes thank you! 😍🥰
@ not a problem!
Do you think the mchose is the way to go in the 100 dollar budget alu?
It’s still an Indiegogo, so I can’t say 100% that it’ll be a safe purchase. The only reason I give the MCHOSE a little more trust compared to Wobkey is that they’ve been around for a while and even made a dedicated software hub for it. I would say for $100 you can’t go wrong with the MCHOSE honestly it’s not like the Rainy75 which is packed with foam and whatever switch you put in will sound Thocky, but much easier to take apart and sounds good. Also, I found that I now use it as my main keyboard
@@mikeytypes The rainy75, bridge75 and mchose is almost the same price here in my country local e-commerce. I wanna replace my Hi75 with something with wireless capability should i go with this? i was also looking at the galaxy80
@@Typerist I haven’t tried the Bridge75 and the Rainy75 sounds amazing is great and all but I find the quality control just wasn’t amazing… and customer service as well. Only reason I personally don’t tell people to get a Rainy75 until that’s all fixed. I would say best to choose do you want TKL or 75%. I would say MCHOSE > Galaxy80.
Hye..i would like to ask..does gateron switch can fit on outemu switches board without mod?im really new into this things..😅
What is the keyboard you have? Not sure if it would. Is it 3 pin? Or 5 pin?
Whats your pick for best creamy tactile switches?
Hmm I’m not sure I haven’t actually tried enough tactile switches to for sure say one of my goals right now is to try a lot more tactile switches and make a video with my favorite top 5
what does hand lubed mean? how do i get it to sound like that instead of the stock that sounds worse? please tell me its not like some complicated keyboard modding
@@bluefacebaby3714 hand lubing is just lubing the switches so like you’d need a switch opener I recommended getting krytox 205g0 and then a brush and just light lubing the stems of each switch
Which creamy switches would you recommend for an RGB keeb (north-facing RGB)?
@@Oozaru85 the first one is the Meletrix Zoom75 second is the MCHOSE GX87. Out of that list best would be curry switches or Gateron Milky Yellow or the Everglide aqua kings
@@mikeytypes I tested the Milky Yellow Pro and didnt like them. I mean, I liked the sound but they barely let any backlight through. Will have to give the non pro version a try then. Thanks.
@@Oozaru85 oh you found they didn’t provide much light? Hmm I would suggest trying the Everglide Aquakings
is there any equivalent or similar see through top housing switches (for RGB purposes) that sounds like Rosewood?
I would say for see through the aqua king.
@@mikeytypes thank you. I'll save up for that. Its pricey af for me 😂 getting the rosewood & aqua king based on ur recommendation. And also the mchose gx87 also from ur recommendation. 😂
@@jmy976 yeah that’s fair the hobby is incredibly expensive I find as well. Another option could be the Monsgeek M1V3 if you don’t need wireless or the Leobog hi75
@@mikeytypes oh i have alrdy signed up for the mchose gx87 ultra campaign. and bought the rosewood & aquaking switches cz they were on sale!! thank you Mikey!!
I personally love the sound of creamy switches, I'm curious how you all feel about whether creamy switches would be appropriate for an office setting. My only exposure to creamy switches is in video so I have no frame of reference for how they would sound in a room.
For the ones in my video I’ve used them at an office during work and it’s not too loud. Sound is quite interesting as it’s louder infront of you but in the office there will be a lot of other surrounding sounds and the waves don’t travel as far as you’d think so it’s quieter around you. Also membrane keyboard are usually louder
epomaker zebra switches 💯
Nice switches, but I found them a bit loud for me
how much lube are you putting on them? mine dont sound as good lol
Are you using the same keyboard? It will definitely be different per keyboard, but I would say I lube mine like enough that you can see the shine from the lube but not so much that it leaves globs of lube
@@mikeytypes no its not the same. im rocking an old drop ctrl ive had since around covid but im about to bring this to work and i just ordered a rainy75 for home.. and then i also impulse bought a purple womier sk71 too so im hoping one of those sound better.
@@Lil-Cheddar the rainy will definitely sound better in general the rainy75 makes switches like Thocky sounding. The Womier I’m not too sure on though.
What keyboard did you use?
MCHOSE GX87
@@mikeytypes thanks
you gotta cut the background music when you do a typing test or demo. i see you did later on in video.
@@tigris4149a2 i should have removed the sound but the beginning wasn’t really meant for sound test but more my explanation of my thoughts of creamy vs Thocky next time I know to improve the video
AKKO V3 Piano Pro Switch?
I don’t (yet) own it, but in all the sample videos it sounds creamy (or is it marble-y)?
😞 I don’t know anymore. All the descriptions are starting to overlap.😣
@@TwilightTypingASMR I haven’t actually tried the piano switches, I should try it and see. I’m currently waiting on the new Akko Botany ones which I’m excited for
I own a set of the Akko V3 Piano Pros. They’re more of a muted clacky type of switch, even on my intentionally creamy builds. They can be marbly and a little creamy, but not nearly as good as any of the switches on this list. Get the Akko Creamy series, or better yet the Akko Rosewoods. They
@@_gruntled your response got cut off, but I think the main point made it.
I appreciate your insight and thoughts; will look at trying the Akko Cream series - in addition to the Rosewood.
Thanks!
@@_gruntled The Rosewoods is really the best switch Akko has made honestly. The Botany switches are currently on the way for me it will be interesting to try it out
@@mikeytypes I’m looking to order some ceramic keys to go with the wooden board and the rosewood switches, but lots of the ceramic keys are out of stock.
Also, not sure if (by going with cerakeys) if I’m introducing a higher pitch sound and a glassy feel instead of the stock AKKO keys, which I assume have a matte-like finish, and possibly lower muted sound.
Not that either of you care, but figured I’d share…
I keep going back and forth with adding the cream AKKO switch series, if Rosewood is really the sound/feel I think I’m trying to attain.
man if the rosewood switches were tactile it would be perfect. i’m not a fan of linear switches. can anyone recommend me something?
Yeah the rosewood is really good for tactile hmm yeah not sure what would be a good equivalent as the tactile I like is just so expensive
so i have a question with keyboards like these ive only ever seen people type are they any good for gaming at all or no?
@@JustGeeked good question! It does I mean too be fair you can use any keyboard for gaming and still do well. Of course these aren’t like the new Hall Effect keyboards that provide very specific gaming features but with 1000hz polling rate or more it’s more than enough for gaming and just feels and sounds good while using it 😊 except for like Apex I usually just use my customs for games
@@mikeytypes ty ty
I got mchose k99 coming , which switch do you recommend best?
You can’t go wrong with the Akko Rosewood
What did you use to lube the switches?
@@cjc2487 krytox 205g0
Wd 40
what are those keycaps?
@@MufidVarunaS it’s the Keytok Smile to 90s set
3-5 sound like rain drops
what keyboard do you use?
@@Mannfredgunterthat is with the MCHOSE GX87