I just ordered the Akko Rosewoods! Your review has me extra excited, especially since I’m using them in my Epomaker Galaxy70, which is already fairly creamy/pebbly in sound by design
That's fair the Galaxy Series did a great job with making a marbly sounding keyboard. I had built the 80 for a friend. I used them in the Monsgeek M1V3 and wow they sounded great and even in the MCHOSE GX87 they were great. The only keyboard so far they didn't sound as creamy and nice was the NEO80, but I find the NEO80 is a very clacky style keyboard
@@mikeytypes It would be interesting to see a video of yours suggesting specific sound builds for keyboards! Budget vs splurge; thocky vs marbley/poppy vs clacky
@@_gruntled actually that is a goal video of mine once I have more of a larger collection of things. I wanted to do a guide build depending on the sound someone wants
Great review. It is so important to test out, comparison of your previously thought thocky switches, and what you think now. It’s so helpful you give your thoughts about each switches including introductions on specs/pricing/materials. The wobble test was really helpful too. Lastly, I would like to see thocky tactile video from this channel 🙂.
@@mikeytypes the only one I could think of is Leobog Ice soul, tactile (50gf initial, 30gf actuation). Would be great if you can review. I love how you review and do comparison 😃👍But you’re not a tactile guy.. I hope more viewers are interested in light thocky tactile, this type of switch seems to be really limited out there (mostly clacky ones). Love your channel, keep it going! 👏👏👏
@@gabbychow4026 light tactiles are definitely not bad. I have a few that I have that are decent. Thank you! Trying my best to grow this channel but definitely difficult
This video makes me wonder why Creamy/Thocky tactile switches are so rare in this hobby? especially the budget and mid-range price points seem really bare of any budget creamy/thocky tactile switch
@@gaiaxyc9177 I do want to make a tactile video but I don’t know if I can make a creamy tactile video but I’m trying to get more tactile switches and see if I can find some
Love the Gateron Ink Black v2. Stock, these switches are very scratchy and wobbly. But with lube and film, these switches were the exact deep-sounding switch I was looking for. These are the deepest switches you can find out there.
I appreciate the effort and the detail put into the video, along with the non-lubed/lubed comparisons. I'm glad that in videos after this one you toned down the background music. Off to watch more of your vids!
I really appreciate you taking the time to show factory lubed next to hand lubed 💛 I was wondering do you recommend taking the time to lube the gateron curry?
@@butter_mochii I personally think all switches are worth hand lubing just for long run of using it as some factory lubed over some time can get scratchy
Thank you for a very consistent and clear test. Well done. It’s hard to decide between thocky and creamy nowadays, and there’s switches all along that spectrum. It’s odd, I guess for me thocky is a distinctly topre sound, and I’m trying to replicate that.
Thocky and creamy really is a very thin line I find almost can be either one. I think now it’s large spectrum of sound choices. I am trying out the Cherry Brown to get the feel of topre but sound hmm yeah that’s difficult. I do want to own myself a HHKB one only got to try the Type Heaven
@@mikeytypes As someone that goes between MX and Topre daily, idk if Cherry Brown really captures all of it. I have an HHKB Type-S, which is pretty close to that sort of quiet and creamy/thocky sound people like. Would recommend as a pickup, especially now that there’s more aftermarket parts for it and such.
I got the milky yellows based off this vid. Put them in my k643 with some moa profile keycaps that THOCK. Amazing video, currently falling down mech keyboard rabbit hole.
another amazing review. i love all of these switches but i'd have to say the wuque studio mm switch and the gateron everfree curry switches are my favourite, its really tough to decide.
The best part about the akko rosewood. They give them "for free" when you buy a keyboard there. I bought the monsgeek m1 v5 (just released 2-3 days ago) with the halloween code it was 150€, the switches alone would have cost me 40-50€ and for another 100€ I got one of the nicest new boards with it.
My last keyboard aka my second keyboard is Bridge 75 plus + akko olivia keycaps + akko rosewood swithces. I didnt liked stock priness swithes on bridge 75. You helped with switches a lot, thx, bro.
i bought rosewoods and morandis in one go. loved the rosewoods and was so frustrated with the morandis. stem wobble was so horrendous that mods keep depressing when you slightly move your finger (i.e. alt tabbing). i couldnt use them for work without making mistakes. rosewoods on the other hand is very good if you are looking for a deep, muted sound. the downside i think is when you like RGB, as the light looks pink by default due to the housing color.
Hello i was hoping you could help me understand creamy and thocky better. You are one reviewer i notice willing to reply, converse and share opinion or ideas That 'buttery' description for 'creamy', does it mean more thicker 'viscous' coated type of sound? I would imagine 3 diy woofer boxes. One coated with honey, one layered with foam, and one empty. Knocking on it, all are deeper sounding but would have their own unique signature frequency pass filter. When introduce a stronger knock 'pop' in, esp higher pitched, these boxes will show its unique characteristics more clearly by how it filters, one that could skew it toward either sounding creamy deeper, darker deeper and open clearer deeper? However if you introduce a deep low thud into the boxes, their characteristics would sound more similar than different. Im just postulating that, you actually need a certain strong knock that also produces high frequencies, like a loud switch in order to show 'thocky' or 'creamy' characteristics clearer and better? But i can imagine you could also just give a low thud on a normal box and it could sound deep too. I apologize in advance 🙏🙇 Am trying understand better and make sense. I was hoping you could chip in your take on it
No need to apologize at all, I think you are getting very close to what I think is the difference between creamy and thocky. Like when you're typing on a "creamy" keyboard the sounds are more in line with each other where it feels like there is a flow to the frequency and not a sudden thud that comes with it. The number one thocky switch I chose the biggest different would be just as you said almost like a high frequency at the end that comes up afterwards when the stem hits the bottom. It has a deep sound profile to it, but has that sudden thump to it. While creamy switches I find have a quieter sound to it and no sudden high frequency that comes up at the end. Sorry I hope that makes sense
@@mikeytypes Do you mean that "Creamy" has more highs filtered out and less open sounding? Maybe more pronounced filtering across both ends of lows and highs happening, perhaps preserving maybe more of the mid freq. I visualize 'thump' as having more reverberation on the low-mids. If so, does it mean that in comparison 'Creamy' sounds more 'compressed' sounding than 'open' sounding at the lows of 'Thocky'? But at the same time 'Creamy' can sound more 'focused" and 'controlled'?
@@mTLpHfumfaomd hmmmm really difficult to like explain in just writing, but I would say that creamy is yes more controlled with holding the sound while thocky has more of a pronounced and louder sound when the stem hits the bottom. But again this is my opinion between the difference as I said in the video too creamy and thocky really comes down to a personal opinion of it as it's an incredibly thin line
@@mikeytypes Do you think the loudness and deepness of sound like thock also comes from the way keyboards are tuned? Maybe especially if housing case are filled with something like foam? And what i notice is it also depends on the surface it sits on. Wooden table will have a great resonant effect. I would imagine it maybe different on other surfaces too
@@mTLpHfumfaomd yeah there is so many factors to it. How much foam, type of foam, thickness of foam, case material, surface it is on, thickness of desk pad, switch material, keycap material and profile as well
Ktt kang whites are higher pitched creamy and they’re the cheapest btw if you don’t like deeper sound! They’re the best budget switches on the market ONLY you have to lube them or else they’re funky lol
i gotta say that the gateron everfree curry are some of the smoothest pre-lubed switches i've ever used (over EG aquakings). they're almost as smooth as my hand-lubed epsilons. they're that good. would recommend lol
Hi! I really loved your video! Bought the akko rosewood because of your amazing content! I'm typing on it now :) Just have one question, in person how much different does it sound and feel and does it really make a difference to apply krytox or another lube? Thank you very much!
@@leandrocaboatandossantos8982 you will get a bit less scratchy sounds from the rosewood and it will feel smoother too slightly make it quieter. Use krytox 205g0
I’ve never customized a keyboard. I’ve shopped for a creamy keyboards and have struggled. I decided customization is my best option. This video was very helpful, so thank you. I apologize in advance for this simple question. What product are you using when it’s hand lubed? I’m going to search your channel in the event that you have address this in another video. Thank you for your help.
not a problem at all, honestly when first getting into it of course it feels way more overwhelming. You can definitely ask any questions here I am happy to help! I use krytox 205g0 to hand lube the switches.
I personally love the sound of creamy switches, I'm curious how you all feel about whether creamy switches would be appropriate for an office setting. My only exposure to creamy switches is in video so I have no frame of reference for how they would sound in a room.
For the ones in my video I’ve used them at an office during work and it’s not too loud. Sound is quite interesting as it’s louder infront of you but in the office there will be a lot of other surrounding sounds and the waves don’t travel as far as you’d think so it’s quieter around you. Also membrane keyboard are usually louder
No need to be sorry! I had the same questions in the beginning and too be fair I am still a noob! Linear isn't the only one to be creamy it's just that I have tried way more linear switches and these were the creamiest sounding ones while the Tactiles I have tried so far were more on the thocky side
Whats the other specs of the board? Anything to make it creamier? Because Ive been looking at the rosewoods but they dont sound this good in any other video..
This is just the MCHOSE GX87 with the Keytok smile Keycaps and a layer of tape mod plus lubing the switches, but in terms of the Rosewood when I try them on my other boards too it sounds good
Thanks for the great video! Im super new to this and there is an overwhelming amount of information to digest but thanks to this video ill be going for the Gateron milky yellow pros i think! They had a quite unique release sound and didnt have such dark sound profile like others in my opinion which i prefer. It also sounded pretty well lubed stock!
@@MrHardTruck they are definitely newer! I do have a short with doing a sound test on another board but I think they are good and upgrade from the milky yellow pros
@mikeytypes Just saw your short! They do sound very nice but i still have no idea how to compare them to the milky ones honestly, still too little data 😕 Honestly at this point i think im forced to buy both haha
@@moonmothh you are correct! Every keyboard is different for sure! Something I really should emphasize more. The keyboard is the MCHOSE GX87 with one layer of tape mod on the back and the keytok Smile to 90s switches but very little mods done. Oh and of course lubed switches
@@mikeytypes MCHOSE is so underrated! they make great builds and no one ever talks about them. I have the K99 and didn't feel the need to mod it, it's definitely my favorite keyboard. This is a great video btw, love how you put the specs on each switch and filmed the difference between stock vs lubed. Bought the Gateron Everfree Curry switches for my aluminum KiiBoom Loop and what a difference. My keyboard sounds like THICC marbly cream. I think it would be even creamier with a polycarbonate plate. Thanks for the upload!
@@moonmothh thank you! Yeah, honestly MCHOSE makes like really good and I would say pretty dang good quality stuff for a more affordable price. I would be interested to see what else they try to bring as they try to reach out more globally
I haven’t tried the piano I would say the rosewood over all of them, but between the three choice Gateron Milky Yellow Pro if you don’t want to hand lube. Ink black if you are good with hand lubing it
Oh what seriously? So sorry to hear that! I’ll let Akko know maybe their Amazon ones weren’t in good quality. The rosewood are really good though from my experience but so sorry you had dealt with that. Have you tried the Curry switches? They are also really nice
Great video, trying to find a good mechanical keyboard switch that won’t be too loud and obnoxious in an office setting. Do you think these “creamy” type of switches would be a good fit for that?
@@ashleyjurek2765 thank you! Yeah I’ve used this at the office and it works well usually in the office there is other people and other sounds though it may sound loud infront of you it’s actually not that loud, but these switches I found to be like not loud infront and in office
@@7MINJAE thank you! The keyboard is the MCHOSE GX87 Ultra with Keytok Smile to 90s keycap. Kept everything in the keyboard changed stabilizers to DS Plate Mount stabilizers and then a layer of tape mod that’s all. So stock foams and plate was PC plate
I definitely think keycap profile has an affect. There is definitely impacts depending on like keycap profile, how much foam in the case, and the switch. The Keycaps are the Keytok Smile to 90s which is cherry profilen
@@wilfordjason1 I just lube the stem sides and then the bottom housing and then with left over lube on the brush I put it on the spring. I’m posting a video tomorrow and have a part actually I show how I lube switches
@@paksoom8756 it’s just the MCHOSE GX87 Ultra. I added one layer of tape mode on the bottom but even that I only did parts of it to not over the areas where the switches connect to
Hey! I bought a set of Gateron Everfree Currys from watching your video, but they're really muted and quiet in my Neo65. Are the Morandis and Akko Rosewoods any louder in terms of sheer volume? Also, would removing foam/PE foam make my board a little louder when I'm using the Currys?
Yeah, the switches I have in my creamy switches video are all more on the quiet side if you want something louder I would say maybe the Akko Botany switches would be for you! Yeah for sure try removing the foams first. Foams will dampen the sounds more
Hi, im liking your videos. The vertex v1 (unrelated to this video, but i do know you have tested it), i am aware that it's an amazing budget linear switch, but, in the video you made of it, there was no rgb test. I was wondering, how well does the rgb work with that switch?
@@mikeytypes thank you for the insight! Also, just another question: how good is the factory lube on the switch? And since it doesn't have RGB support, are there any alternatives you would suggest that are also thocky and creamy like that switch?
@@mikeytypes thanks one again! I've narrowed it down to the milky yellow pros, but I've heard that the stock lubing is not as good as the vertex's and it is also higher pitched and less marbly sounding than the vertex v1. Is this true?
@@recordedanemone6399 it would really depend on the board you are using, I would say that they are slightly sound higher pitched stock compared to the Vertex V1, but I find that the Milky Yellow Pros sound quite like creamy sounding. In my video I also do a stock vs lube around 8:25 which might help you decide?
I currently own the attack shark k86 it got blue whale swithes, I really enjoy their sound and I believe they are creamy? Just ordered gateron smoothie silver, can't wait to test them. Any idea if the blue whales and smoothies silver are craeamy? I really enjoy smooth, bassy-ish with a bit of a pop sounding profile to switches.
@@danilohernandes7145 i haven’t tried out the blue whale switches, but I wouldn’t put smoothies as a creamy switch but they are like Marbly sounding for sure very smooth comes good stock too and a decently deep sound profile plus the pop sound you like
what does hand lubed mean? how do i get it to sound like that instead of the stock that sounds worse? please tell me its not like some complicated keyboard modding
@@bluefacebaby3714 hand lubing is just lubing the switches so like you’d need a switch opener I recommended getting krytox 205g0 and then a brush and just light lubing the stems of each switch
Any recommendations for a creamy/thocky switch? I have had trouble trying to find what would fit the criteria best. I have been in a rabbit hole learning about keyboards and initially found the Wuque MS Morandis. But then I heard about the Gateron Milky yellows and the Gateron Oil Kings. (i am so confused on which to choose, plan to build my Zoom65 V3 from Meletrix)
@@phongpham2549 the Morandi’s sound great but people find that there is very bad stem wobble. I would say go with the Milky yellow pro or Curry switches or even the new Pro Ultra Glory Yellow for creamy switch. If you want Thocky go with the Vertex V1. Or my number one choice the Rosewood for creamy works super well!
Thank you! The Desk Pad you can search Japanese Sakura Desk Pad, it is available on Amazon, but I couldn't find the size I wanted which was the extra large one, Ali also had it at a much larger size
@@tqd2008 do you plan to hand lube? I did try the AK820 for a short time and stock switch sounded good it was with the sea salt switches. but I think for it to be more creamy sounding you will have to hand lube it. My friend has one and I changed it out for the WS Morandi and it sounded good
What mods did you do to #1/what products did you use to make it (like the entire thing)? I'd like to recreate the entirety of that setup because that sound is my dream keyboard sound, but I'm a novice when it comes to custom keyboards. I see you have the Akko Rosewoods and your switches in the description so I have that; anything else I need (the keyboard base itself, hand lubing)? Any help is appreciated, thanks!
@@Ghostblade956 definitely! So the keyboard itself is the MCHOSE GX87 Ultra. It is a more budget TKL keyboard and the Keycaps is the Smile to the 90s Keycaps from Keytok. I did lube the Rosewood switches as well. I would say if you get all three you will get the most identical sound 😊
@@mikeytypes, I took the rosewood B gx87, thanks for this video, only the caps and stabilizers are not the same, but everything is like yours, because I fell in love with this sound. And I just received mood 007 v3 with a defect))
@@mikeytypes, Yes, I passed it under warranty, my friend has a similar problem with the same keyboard, but he solved it, some pins on the switches were bent.
Iam new to this, does only the switches change the sound to creamy or does caps also affect it ? I want to buy a vibe 99 and iam searching for creamy sound, and how do i know which switches fit my keyboard ?
@@Unidentifiziert for the Vibe99 all these switches will fit! The thing you have to check for boards is is it 5 pin or 3 pin the vibe99 can do both pretty much any 5 pin board can do both 3 pin or 5. The vibe99 is quite good for creamy sounding on its own if you mod it a bit you can check out my video on the Vibe99. Keycaps do effect slightly I would say for Keycaps lower profile the better for creamy
@@mikeytypes I also appreciate that you so active in the comments :) very nice. Then I have a second question if you dont mind, do all caps fit on every switch ? Or is there a difference, which keycap fit on what switch ? Thanks for your time :)
@ hahah thank you! My goal is always try and reply to every comment though sometimes I miss some! I know some have tried to message me on instagram unfortunately because I’m not as active there it’s a bit tough. But I’m always checking comments. So Keycaps will fit any switch but if you get low profile Keycaps it won’t be great to use. Stay with like cherry profile or SA( higher profile better for typing it as great for gaming) or DSA a short profile. Keytok has some good Keycaps
That hand lubed "number 5" is.. HEAVEN for my ears!
Question! Were all the switches lubed with number 5? When you typed on it?
@@storm8216no A S D was stock and F G H was hand lubed
dude knows his stuff
absolute banger
@@shiroryuichi3762 thank you!
I just ordered the Akko Rosewoods! Your review has me extra excited, especially since I’m using them in my Epomaker Galaxy70, which is already fairly creamy/pebbly in sound by design
That's fair the Galaxy Series did a great job with making a marbly sounding keyboard. I had built the 80 for a friend. I used them in the Monsgeek M1V3 and wow they sounded great and even in the MCHOSE GX87 they were great. The only keyboard so far they didn't sound as creamy and nice was the NEO80, but I find the NEO80 is a very clacky style keyboard
@@mikeytypes How loud would you say the Rosewoods are to your ears? I read somewhere that they're rather quiet apparently
@@_gruntled yeah they are quite quiet I find. Of course not like silent switches but on the quieter side of regular switches
@@mikeytypes It would be interesting to see a video of yours suggesting specific sound builds for keyboards! Budget vs splurge; thocky vs marbley/poppy vs clacky
@@_gruntled actually that is a goal video of mine once I have more of a larger collection of things. I wanted to do a guide build depending on the sound someone wants
Ngl, the stocks sounds so good and tickles my brain a lot 🧠😩
@@jaustinnn which one?
@@mikeytypesAqua King & Everyfree. Both are my absolute favorite from this list!
@@jaustinnn those are good ones! I think both stock come well done, but definitely like it more after lubing them
I scrolled down so far and bro replied to so many comments, best community interaction
Hahaha thank you! I try my best to try and respond to every question/comment!
AGREED!! we really a discord group!!
@@jmymeow haha learning and looking into trying to start a discord
Great review. It is so important to test out, comparison of your previously thought thocky switches, and what you think now. It’s so helpful you give your thoughts about each switches including introductions on specs/pricing/materials. The wobble test was really helpful too. Lastly, I would like to see thocky tactile video from this channel 🙂.
@@gabbychow4026 thank you! Any Thocky tactile suggestions?
@@mikeytypes the only one I could think of is Leobog Ice soul, tactile (50gf initial, 30gf actuation). Would be great if you can review. I love how you review and do comparison 😃👍But you’re not a tactile guy.. I hope more viewers are interested in light thocky tactile, this type of switch seems to be really limited out there (mostly clacky ones). Love your channel, keep it going! 👏👏👏
@@gabbychow4026 light tactiles are definitely not bad. I have a few that I have that are decent. Thank you! Trying my best to grow this channel but definitely difficult
@@mikeytypes leobog juggle V2 is a nice thocky tactile :)
@ thanks! Something I should try out! 😊
This video makes me wonder why Creamy/Thocky tactile switches are so rare in this hobby? especially the budget and mid-range price points seem really bare of any budget creamy/thocky tactile switch
@@OgSwisszyed that’s fair! I think maybe because of the popularity and that there are more who like linear
@@mikeytypesAre there any creamy tactiles you know of? Or you plan on making a video on maybe ? (Please)
@@gaiaxyc9177 I do want to make a tactile video but I don’t know if I can make a creamy tactile video but I’m trying to get more tactile switches and see if I can find some
@mikeytypes any creamy tactile recommendations at this point, though? I'm going to build one soon
Leaving a comment here to be updated on the creamy/thocky tactile switch options 😂
Love the Gateron Ink Black v2. Stock, these switches are very scratchy and wobbly. But with lube and film, these switches were the exact deep-sounding switch I was looking for. These are the deepest switches you can find out there.
@@ItzSpeedy09 you should try the Akko rosewood too
#3 hit the spot for me!
I like the fact that you list the audio equipment you use!
Thank you!
It's so interesting how creamy is such an appropriate word for that sound.
hahaha it is true, that was my though originally before
I appreciate the effort and the detail put into the video, along with the non-lubed/lubed comparisons. I'm glad that in videos after this one you toned down the background music. Off to watch more of your vids!
@@derekvadneau thank you! Any feedback I get I want to make sure I listen not get offended ever and really try to implement to fix and improve
The ink switch gives a unique sound though your lubing makes it creamy. Interesting. Great vid!
Thank you!
dude, i could listen to videos like this all day, true PC asmr
I got the Akko Rosewood and all I can say is WOW!
I’ve always wondered why people went through the trouble of hand-lubing each switch:
I get it now.
I really appreciate you taking the time to show factory lubed next to hand lubed 💛 I was wondering do you recommend taking the time to lube the gateron curry?
@@butter_mochii I personally think all switches are worth hand lubing just for long run of using it as some factory lubed over some time can get scratchy
@ thanks for the tip!!
Thank you for a very consistent and clear test. Well done. It’s hard to decide between thocky and creamy nowadays, and there’s switches all along that spectrum. It’s odd, I guess for me thocky is a distinctly topre sound, and I’m trying to replicate that.
Thocky and creamy really is a very thin line I find almost can be either one. I think now it’s large spectrum of sound choices. I am trying out the Cherry Brown to get the feel of topre but sound hmm yeah that’s difficult. I do want to own myself a HHKB one only got to try the Type Heaven
@@mikeytypes As someone that goes between MX and Topre daily, idk if Cherry Brown really captures all of it. I have an HHKB Type-S, which is pretty close to that sort of quiet and creamy/thocky sound people like. Would recommend as a pickup, especially now that there’s more aftermarket parts for it and such.
@@krokenlochen yeah I was considering the hybrid type s but definitely expensive haha seeing if it’s cheaper in Japan to try and grab one
I wish at the end you had done them all back to back right after each other to hear the difference close together
Ahh yeah that’s definitely something I should consider doing when it’s just one keyboard only
From sound alone I'd switch 3 (curry) and 2. They all sound pretty nice ^^
hand lubed No. 5 is crazy creamy I need these
@@moonmothh it is really nice
Came here for the keyboard sound, little did I know im more drawn to his calming voice. Lmao!!
@@schazya hahaha thank you
I got the milky yellows based off this vid. Put them in my k643 with some moa profile keycaps that THOCK. Amazing video, currently falling down mech keyboard rabbit hole.
@@masterofbuttercream hahaha it is a fun but definitely chaotic and expensive hole
another amazing review. i love all of these switches but i'd have to say the wuque studio mm switch and the gateron everfree curry switches are my favourite, its really tough to decide.
@@Koperoki thank you! 😊 definitely difficult choice haha but the MM switches you will need to hand lube and put together
@@mikeytypes thats changed my mind then, im a newbie when it comes to switches so i dont think i would be good building them
@@Koperoki not hard though! just have to put it together I actually have a video on the MM switches though the series ended early
this was the exact video i needed, thank you man
glad it helped!
came across this video AFTER ordering the ws morandi and I might have to get the rosewoods after seeing/hearing this
the Morandi aren't bad sounds amazing just has the stem wobble issue specifically you'll feel it most when pressed down
Have you tried filming the morandis? Does it help with the stem wobble?
@ I haven’t tried filming them, but thinking about how filming the switches work I don’t think it will help much in terms of the stem wobble
The best part about the akko rosewood. They give them "for free" when you buy a keyboard there. I bought the monsgeek m1 v5 (just released 2-3 days ago) with the halloween code it was 150€, the switches alone would have cost me 40-50€ and for another 100€ I got one of the nicest new boards with it.
also bought the m1 v5 white baredone just today, hope it sounds good for that price, still a noob in this hobby, don't even know where to start
Number 3 curry switch was the best imo
you're video is the best i've found to compare switches with consistency, Thank you so much!!
@@EMIVIY thank you!! 😊
Thank you so much for this! Creamy is dreamy!
Great video! I wish the music in the intro was a bit quieter for the sound test, but other than that thanks for the awesome video!
Thank you! Yes, I should have reduced the music in the intro portion now I know for next time though!😁
My last keyboard aka my second keyboard is Bridge 75 plus + akko olivia keycaps + akko rosewood swithces. I didnt liked stock priness swithes on bridge 75. You helped with switches a lot, thx, bro.
@@InvictusCore glad it helped!! That’s fair on the MMD princess they are definitely like decent but they are very very budget switches
Mikey you have the best cream, switch recommendations
Thanks! Really tried to get a good list
the akko rosewoods are my favorite switch ive tried in a long time.
@@lordslugger yeah they are really nice
i bought rosewoods and morandis in one go. loved the rosewoods and was so frustrated with the morandis. stem wobble was so horrendous that mods keep depressing when you slightly move your finger (i.e. alt tabbing). i couldnt use them for work without making mistakes.
rosewoods on the other hand is very good if you are looking for a deep, muted sound. the downside i think is when you like RGB, as the light looks pink by default due to the housing color.
@@jasonmxx glad you like the rosewood! Yeah the Morandi really have some bad stem wobble
Would you say rose woods are deeper than lavenders?
@@rengokusats which lavender switches?
Hello i was hoping you could help me understand creamy and thocky better. You are one reviewer i notice willing to reply, converse and share opinion or ideas
That 'buttery' description for 'creamy', does it mean more thicker 'viscous' coated type of sound?
I would imagine 3 diy woofer boxes. One coated with honey, one layered with foam, and one empty. Knocking on it, all are deeper sounding but would have their own unique signature frequency pass filter.
When introduce a stronger knock 'pop' in, esp higher pitched, these boxes will show its unique characteristics more clearly by how it filters, one that could skew it toward either sounding creamy deeper, darker deeper and open clearer deeper?
However if you introduce a deep low thud into the boxes, their characteristics would sound more similar than different.
Im just postulating that, you actually need a certain strong knock that also produces high frequencies, like a loud switch in order to show 'thocky' or 'creamy' characteristics clearer and better?
But i can imagine you could also just give a low thud on a normal box and it could sound deep too.
I apologize in advance 🙏🙇 Am trying understand better and make sense. I was hoping you could chip in your take on it
No need to apologize at all, I think you are getting very close to what I think is the difference between creamy and thocky. Like when you're typing on a "creamy" keyboard the sounds are more in line with each other where it feels like there is a flow to the frequency and not a sudden thud that comes with it. The number one thocky switch I chose the biggest different would be just as you said almost like a high frequency at the end that comes up afterwards when the stem hits the bottom. It has a deep sound profile to it, but has that sudden thump to it. While creamy switches I find have a quieter sound to it and no sudden high frequency that comes up at the end. Sorry I hope that makes sense
@@mikeytypes Do you mean that "Creamy" has more highs filtered out and less open sounding? Maybe more pronounced filtering across both ends of lows and highs happening, perhaps preserving maybe more of the mid freq. I visualize 'thump' as having more reverberation on the low-mids. If so, does it mean that in comparison 'Creamy' sounds more 'compressed' sounding than 'open' sounding at the lows of 'Thocky'? But at the same time 'Creamy' can sound more 'focused" and 'controlled'?
@@mTLpHfumfaomd hmmmm really difficult to like explain in just writing, but I would say that creamy is yes more controlled with holding the sound while thocky has more of a pronounced and louder sound when the stem hits the bottom. But again this is my opinion between the difference as I said in the video too creamy and thocky really comes down to a personal opinion of it as it's an incredibly thin line
@@mikeytypes Do you think the loudness and deepness of sound like thock also comes from the way keyboards are tuned? Maybe especially if housing case are filled with something like foam? And what i notice is it also depends on the surface it sits on. Wooden table will have a great resonant effect. I would imagine it maybe different on other surfaces too
@@mTLpHfumfaomd yeah there is so many factors to it. How much foam, type of foam, thickness of foam, case material, surface it is on, thickness of desk pad, switch material, keycap material and profile as well
Ktt kang whites are higher pitched creamy and they’re the cheapest btw if you don’t like deeper sound! They’re the best budget switches on the market ONLY you have to lube them or else they’re funky lol
KTT Kang definitely a good one very budget for sure. Only thing is hard to open haha
i gotta say that the gateron everfree curry are some of the smoothest pre-lubed switches i've ever used (over EG aquakings). they're almost as smooth as my hand-lubed epsilons. they're that good. would recommend lol
Yeah the curry is really good that’s for sure!
Hi! I really loved your video! Bought the akko rosewood because of your amazing content! I'm typing on it now :)
Just have one question, in person how much different does it sound and feel and does it really make a difference to apply krytox or another lube?
Thank you very much!
@@leandrocaboatandossantos8982 you will get a bit less scratchy sounds from the rosewood and it will feel smoother too slightly make it quieter. Use krytox 205g0
while i find thock good and im in love with creamy keyboards i find a combo of the 2 is the best
@@jessemast2843 that’s fair! Thock and creamy mix is good
my favourite is the stock gateron ef curry
I bought the akko rosewoods for my neo 80 and OMGGG I LOVE THEM SO MUCHHH!! Thankyou so much for the video!!
Awesome!
I’ve never customized a keyboard. I’ve shopped for a creamy keyboards and have struggled. I decided customization is my best option. This video was very helpful, so thank you.
I apologize in advance for this simple question. What product are you using when it’s hand lubed? I’m going to search your channel in the event that you have address this in another video. Thank you for your help.
not a problem at all, honestly when first getting into it of course it feels way more overwhelming. You can definitely ask any questions here I am happy to help! I use krytox 205g0 to hand lube the switches.
@@mikeytypes ♥Thank you!
@@paulatarver6952 you’ll also need a switch opener and brush
Soooo muchhh creaaam thank you for sharing!!
Haha I’m glad you liked it!
thanks bro you helped me a lot
Not a problem!
I personally love the sound of creamy switches, I'm curious how you all feel about whether creamy switches would be appropriate for an office setting. My only exposure to creamy switches is in video so I have no frame of reference for how they would sound in a room.
For the ones in my video I’ve used them at an office during work and it’s not too loud. Sound is quite interesting as it’s louder infront of you but in the office there will be a lot of other surrounding sounds and the waves don’t travel as far as you’d think so it’s quieter around you. Also membrane keyboard are usually louder
The Gateron Ink ones come lubed now 😚
@@RebeccaPhoenix-o7z awesome! With no mine they are really bad haha
I noticed they're all listed as linear? Is that a thing, creamy switches are linear not tactile? (newbie, sorry if it's a basic question)
No need to be sorry! I had the same questions in the beginning and too be fair I am still a noob! Linear isn't the only one to be creamy it's just that I have tried way more linear switches and these were the creamiest sounding ones while the Tactiles I have tried so far were more on the thocky side
Whats the other specs of the board? Anything to make it creamier? Because Ive been looking at the rosewoods but they dont sound this good in any other video..
This is just the MCHOSE GX87 with the Keytok smile Keycaps and a layer of tape mod plus lubing the switches, but in terms of the Rosewood when I try them on my other boards too it sounds good
What about Gateron oil king?
@@matteonegridev I personally find the Oilking more on the Thocky side but they are also like kind of creamy sounding as well
Good stuff !
Hello just checking which keycaps are you using, I do like that color concept with creamy with orange gray blue
@@zientizt11 I really like these Keycaps they feel really nice and sound great it’s from Keytok the Smile series
Of all of these, would you say that there are any that would be bad for gaming? Not too easy to press, not too difficult for finger exhaustion, etc?
@@ssicamon1927 hmmm maybe the Ink Blacks just because of the weight of the spring
Hello, this comparison was really cool and precise, i was wondering, which is the butteriest to the touch of these 5?
Thank you! I would say in terms of feel the Gateron curry or milky yellow I would say but Akko Rosewood second
What about the Aquaking? is the feeling similar or is less buttery? Thank for the answer btw!
@@josephmaglione6574 the aquakings are good too! I would say similar
epomaker zebra switches 💯
Nice switches, but I found them a bit loud for me
What lube did you use for the Akko Rosewood switches
I use Krytox 205g0
Man those sound great, which spring did you pick for number 5?
@@late-nine it was the wuque studio 53g
Thanks for the great video! Im super new to this and there is an overwhelming amount of information to digest but thanks to this video ill be going for the Gateron milky yellow pros i think! They had a quite unique release sound and didnt have such dark sound profile like others in my opinion which i prefer. It also sounded pretty well lubed stock!
@@MrHardTruck yeah there is so much info out there. Actually I would maybe suggest getting the Gateron Pro Ultra Glory Yellow instead
@@mikeytypes Thanks for the suggestion! Are they rather new? I was not able to find much sound data on them to compare it 😕
@@MrHardTruck they are definitely newer! I do have a short with doing a sound test on another board but I think they are good and upgrade from the milky yellow pros
@mikeytypes Just saw your short! They do sound very nice but i still have no idea how to compare them to the milky ones honestly, still too little data 😕 Honestly at this point i think im forced to buy both haha
@@MrHardTruck that’s fair but yeah form my experience the Pro Ultra Glory is an upgrade
i have extra rosewoods for my next build, but i cant decide between the lucky65 or the gmk87 for my next build
That is two very different boards. But depending on budget you should check other options too
@@mikeytypes yeaa, its just that idk if i should go for a budget alu or plastic with a screen and a knob. love your vids btw!
@@alexw5042 thank you! Hmm that is a hard one. I usually prefer aluminum builds for the weight
Just curious why is there music playing while you are doing sound tests?
@@benray9392 yeah the intro section one was a mistake I had done 😅
lubing really does so much
Yeah, I would say most of the times it makes it better
Well done on vid, thanks for sharing!
Thank you!
drop the keyboard mods too. these may sound creamy on your keeb but will sound clacky on another. really love hearing the comparisons!
@@moonmothh you are correct! Every keyboard is different for sure! Something I really should emphasize more. The keyboard is the MCHOSE GX87 with one layer of tape mod on the back and the keytok Smile to 90s switches but very little mods done. Oh and of course lubed switches
@@mikeytypes MCHOSE is so underrated! they make great builds and no one ever talks about them. I have the K99 and didn't feel the need to mod it, it's definitely my favorite keyboard. This is a great video btw, love how you put the specs on each switch and filmed the difference between stock vs lubed. Bought the Gateron Everfree Curry switches for my aluminum KiiBoom Loop and what a difference. My keyboard sounds like THICC marbly cream. I think it would be even creamier with a polycarbonate plate. Thanks for the upload!
@@moonmothh thank you! Yeah, honestly MCHOSE makes like really good and I would say pretty dang good quality stuff for a more affordable price. I would be interested to see what else they try to bring as they try to reach out more globally
between Piano v3 pro, ink black, gat creamy yellow pro which one would you prefer?
I haven’t tried the piano I would say the rosewood over all of them, but between the three choice Gateron Milky Yellow Pro if you don’t want to hand lube. Ink black if you are good with hand lubing it
Gateron Smoothies 🖖🏻
Great switches but I just don’t find them creamy sounding
Gateron Oil kings
@@iannyllsarte3300 another good one for sure but I found them to be more Thocky
I wanted to love the Akko rosewood switches. But like 15 of them were duds in the pack I ordered from amazon :(
Oh what seriously? So sorry to hear that! I’ll let Akko know maybe their Amazon ones weren’t in good quality. The rosewood are really good though from my experience but so sorry you had dealt with that. Have you tried the Curry switches? They are also really nice
I like the one @8:40 the best when it comes to purely sound.
Great video, trying to find a good mechanical keyboard switch that won’t be too loud and obnoxious in an office setting. Do you think these “creamy” type of switches would be a good fit for that?
@@ashleyjurek2765 thank you! Yeah I’ve used this at the office and it works well usually in the office there is other people and other sounds though it may sound loud infront of you it’s actually not that loud, but these switches I found to be like not loud infront and in office
super helpful vid! could you share the specs of your keyboard? ex. plate material, foams or no foams, etc.
@@7MINJAE thank you! The keyboard is the MCHOSE GX87 Ultra with Keytok Smile to 90s keycap. Kept everything in the keyboard changed stabilizers to DS Plate Mount stabilizers and then a layer of tape mod that’s all. So stock foams and plate was PC plate
Do you find that keycap profile has a large affect on the creaminess and sound? What profile keycaps are you using in this video?
I definitely think keycap profile has an affect. There is definitely impacts depending on like keycap profile, how much foam in the case, and the switch. The Keycaps are the Keytok Smile to 90s which is cherry profilen
Hi Mikey, may i ask how you lube your switches? These sound phenomenal!
@@wilfordjason1 I just lube the stem sides and then the bottom housing and then with left over lube on the brush I put it on the spring. I’m posting a video tomorrow and have a part actually I show how I lube switches
I wanna know, did you mod your keyboard or is it stock? If so what mods did you do?
Just a layer of tape mod, but not other mods than that
What would be more creamy? Leobog reaper switches or Nimbus switches or Akko V3 Creamy purple Pro , and what would you prefer for a HI75?
@@Huh_W hmmm well the creamy purple pro is a tactile switch do you want tactile or linear? For the Hi75 I would say the reaper though
Merci pour cette vidéo ! Le son crémeux est tellement doux, j'adore. J'espère que c'est compatible avec mon Keychron K7 Pro, j'adorerais !
Malheureusement, c'est un clavier à profil bas, donc ça ne fonctionnerait pas🥲J'espère qu'une version à profil bas sortira
Im looking at my first custom Keyboard and those Rosewoods sound phenomenal. Out of curiosity, which key caps are those @MikeyTypes
@@Wibblesniff01 the rosewood is really great! The Keycaps is the Keytok Smile to the 90s set
Thank you!
@ not a problem!
Hi! What are the specs of your keyboard? I think it really helps in making the switches sound thocky and creamy
@@paksoom8756 it’s just the MCHOSE GX87 Ultra. I added one layer of tape mode on the bottom but even that I only did parts of it to not over the areas where the switches connect to
@@mikeytypes alright thank you!
@@paksoom8756 oh also sorry using the Smile Keycaps from Keytok which may also be helping
I’m new to keyboards would I be able to use those first Wuque switches with an Mchose X75?
@@Chigginugget it would work! But remember that is a kit so like you build the switch with the parts and you will have to lube them
Hey! I bought a set of Gateron Everfree Currys from watching your video, but they're really muted and quiet in my Neo65. Are the Morandis and Akko Rosewoods any louder in terms of sheer volume? Also, would removing foam/PE foam make my board a little louder when I'm using the Currys?
Yeah, the switches I have in my creamy switches video are all more on the quiet side if you want something louder I would say maybe the Akko Botany switches would be for you! Yeah for sure try removing the foams first. Foams will dampen the sounds more
Hey! I type for a living in a transcription office and we're all hooked on Akko Creamy purple pro! Would love to see your take on it
Ohhh that’s so interesting! Actually I did a video with the Creamy Purple Pro in my Monsgeek M1V3 review video 😊
Hi, im liking your videos. The vertex v1 (unrelated to this video, but i do know you have tested it), i am aware that it's an amazing budget linear switch, but, in the video you made of it, there was no rgb test. I was wondering, how well does the rgb work with that switch?
@@recordedanemone6399 thank you! The vertex V1 light isn’t the greatest honestly. You get very little light coming through
@@mikeytypes thank you for the insight! Also, just another question: how good is the factory lube on the switch? And since it doesn't have RGB support, are there any alternatives you would suggest that are also thocky and creamy like that switch?
@@recordedanemone6399 I would say the Aqua kings would be a good bet or Gateron Milky Yellow pros
@@mikeytypes thanks one again! I've narrowed it down to the milky yellow pros, but I've heard that the stock lubing is not as good as the vertex's and it is also higher pitched and less marbly sounding than the vertex v1. Is this true?
@@recordedanemone6399 it would really depend on the board you are using, I would say that they are slightly sound higher pitched stock compared to the Vertex V1, but I find that the Milky Yellow Pros sound quite like creamy sounding. In my video I also do a stock vs lube around 8:25 which might help you decide?
I currently own the attack shark k86 it got blue whale swithes, I really enjoy their sound and I believe they are creamy? Just ordered gateron smoothie silver, can't wait to test them. Any idea if the blue whales and smoothies silver are craeamy? I really enjoy smooth, bassy-ish with a bit of a pop sounding profile to switches.
@@danilohernandes7145 i haven’t tried out the blue whale switches, but I wouldn’t put smoothies as a creamy switch but they are like Marbly sounding for sure very smooth comes good stock too and a decently deep sound profile plus the pop sound you like
what does hand lubed mean? how do i get it to sound like that instead of the stock that sounds worse? please tell me its not like some complicated keyboard modding
@@bluefacebaby3714 hand lubing is just lubing the switches so like you’d need a switch opener I recommended getting krytox 205g0 and then a brush and just light lubing the stems of each switch
Any recommendations for a creamy/thocky switch? I have had trouble trying to find what would fit the criteria best. I have been in a rabbit hole learning about keyboards and initially found the Wuque MS Morandis. But then I heard about the Gateron Milky yellows and the Gateron Oil Kings. (i am so confused on which to choose, plan to build my Zoom65 V3 from Meletrix)
@@phongpham2549 the Morandi’s sound great but people find that there is very bad stem wobble. I would say go with the Milky yellow pro or Curry switches or even the new Pro Ultra Glory Yellow for creamy switch. If you want Thocky go with the Vertex V1. Or my number one choice the Rosewood for creamy works super well!
Where did you get the mat?
@@lanpaule3428 I got mine from Aliexpress for the xxl size
Hey, just out of curiosity, are Akko v3 Creamy Pro not creamy enough for your line up?
I actually found them to be more Thocky
Good video, I need that mousepad where to by?
Thank you! The Desk Pad you can search Japanese Sakura Desk Pad, it is available on Amazon, but I couldn't find the size I wanted which was the extra large one, Ali also had it at a much larger size
The akko rosewoods are more thocky than creamy on my keyboard (ND75), did I do something wrong?
@@NuclearCashew nothing you did wrong it really can depend on the keyboard, have you lubed the switches? Also did you modify your ND75?
Hye..i would like to ask..does gateron switch can fit on outemu switches board without mod?im really new into this things..😅
What is the keyboard you have? Not sure if it would. Is it 3 pin? Or 5 pin?
Hmm that's what I need. I use Gateron Clears but now that i have a new keyboard want new switches and the clears have major wobble to them!
@@jonahjameson272 you are thinking about switching to the Aquakings?
plz what is nummber 1 that you used direct after the intro ? plz give me a link to buy it !
do you mean in the beginning of the video? The Vertex V1? You should go check out my top thocky switches video!
@@mikeytypes yes
@@mikeytypes thank you! 😍🥰
@ not a problem!
do you know which of the ajazz switches would be creamy? moon, gift, flying fish, avocado etc - help would be much appreciated!
Hmmm I haven't actually tried the Ajazz switches, are you looking at a specific board you are getting?
@@mikeytypes yep, the ajazz ak820 max keyboard, but if the stock switches aren’t good i can go with a different model
@@tqd2008 do you plan to hand lube? I did try the AK820 for a short time and stock switch sounded good it was with the sea salt switches. but I think for it to be more creamy sounding you will have to hand lube it. My friend has one and I changed it out for the WS Morandi and it sounded good
Which one do you prefer vertex v1 or akko rosewood?
@@ffnn2647 right now I’d have to say my favorite is the Rosewood
@mikeytypes Thank you! I will buy akko rosewood. And i liked your videos it's very detailed!
@ thank you 😊
What keyboard did you use?
MCHOSE GX87
@@mikeytypes thanks
Great video. Would like to hear what u think of the bsun taro switch from knc. Keep up the good work!
@@JohnWick2077s thank you! I’ll have to get them and try
Can you start a Discord so the community can have some (relatively quick) exchange of keyboard ideas and such?
@@TwilightTypingASMR I can definitely look into that! I haven’t ever managed my own discord so I’ll have to really learn on it first
What mods did you do to #1/what products did you use to make it (like the entire thing)? I'd like to recreate the entirety of that setup because that sound is my dream keyboard sound, but I'm a novice when it comes to custom keyboards. I see you have the Akko Rosewoods and your switches in the description so I have that; anything else I need (the keyboard base itself, hand lubing)? Any help is appreciated, thanks!
@@Ghostblade956 definitely! So the keyboard itself is the MCHOSE GX87 Ultra. It is a more budget TKL keyboard and the Keycaps is the Smile to the 90s Keycaps from Keytok. I did lube the Rosewood switches as well. I would say if you get all three you will get the most identical sound 😊
@@mikeytypes, I took the rosewood B gx87, thanks for this video, only the caps and stabilizers are not the same, but everything is like yours, because I fell in love with this sound. And I just received mood 007 v3 with a defect))
@ have you tried reaching out to Akko?
@@mikeytypes,
Yes, I passed it under warranty, my friend has a similar problem with the same keyboard, but he solved it, some pins on the switches were bent.
@ what issues were you having?
Iam new to this, does only the switches change the sound to creamy or does caps also affect it ? I want to buy a vibe 99 and iam searching for creamy sound, and how do i know which switches fit my keyboard ?
@@Unidentifiziert for the Vibe99 all these switches will fit! The thing you have to check for boards is is it 5 pin or 3 pin the vibe99 can do both pretty much any 5 pin board can do both 3 pin or 5. The vibe99 is quite good for creamy sounding on its own if you mod it a bit you can check out my video on the Vibe99. Keycaps do effect slightly I would say for Keycaps lower profile the better for creamy
@mikeytypes thank you! I will check the video 😁 I appreciate your help
@ not a problem at all!
@@mikeytypes I also appreciate that you so active in the comments :) very nice.
Then I have a second question if you dont mind, do all caps fit on every switch ? Or is there a difference, which keycap fit on what switch ? Thanks for your time :)
@ hahah thank you! My goal is always try and reply to every comment though sometimes I miss some! I know some have tried to message me on instagram unfortunately because I’m not as active there it’s a bit tough. But I’m always checking comments. So Keycaps will fit any switch but if you get low profile Keycaps it won’t be great to use. Stay with like cherry profile or SA( higher profile better for typing it as great for gaming) or DSA a short profile. Keytok has some good Keycaps
What did you use to lube the switches?
@@cjc2487 krytox 205g0
Wd 40
Why ig about stock rosewood is better than hand lubed???
on instagram?