If you have two cables, you might be able to plug them both into each other and play GB games with the P2 ports. It doesn't work because the P1 port determines the master, whereas the GB does its master/slave connection differently - swapping states based on who's sending or recieving.
I have an old 3rd party cable that has a toggle switch to go from GBA to GB mode. I did use it back in the day and it did work in both modes. It wasnt supposed to be able to plug into an original gameboy because of the extra tab on the GBA cable but i broke that tab off and it worked between 2 GBs and not just with GBAs. I assume trading would work between the real and fake Gen 1 games since they are literally ROM dumps on cheap boards.
@@shayne537it may have been a gba/gb hybrid cord. If I'm remembering right my Nintendo cable worked with both as well. Recently bought 3rd party cords and had the same issue, where 2 only work with GBA and the other 2 only work with GB.
If you're using the same GBA link cable with the GB games then they wont work properly. The cables are wired differently and the GB games expect the proper GB cables to make the connection.
Yeah, my link cable has a switch for GBA and GBC mode and GB only works in GBC mode. Trading to a fake copy should work, I've done it when I transfered my team from Pokemon Green to my legit Gold cart.
You can use two Offical GBA Link Cables, plug the purple ends into the middle part on the other cable, then use the grey ends and it will work with Gen 1 and 2 games played on the GBA
I read this commetnt before watching and thought "there's no way hed make a video about this without knowing this common knowledge" -then i saw the replies...
Traded from an authentic sapphire and leafgreen, to a FAKE platinum, then to authentic black and white, then X and Y. turns out it was a pretty well made bootleg, traded though all the generations. Didn't know it was fake till years later.
There was this pretty notorious fake called "Perla" for the GBA and I had it when I was like 11. It was supposed to be a modded emerald but there was no way to get past Petalburg and play any further and that bummed me out at first, but then I discovered that for some reason you could catch a level 2-3 Deoxys near Petalburg and I remember losing my mind cus it was my absolute favorite pokemon (still is) and I had no way to get one esp where I was. I then tried to see if I could transfer it to my actual copy of Ruby using the link-cable and IT ACTUALLY WORKED, and at the time, that alone to me made it worth shelling out most of my pocket money for lol. I was so happy. 😭
OMG first person I see that had the same game I had... I caught that deoxys over and over and traded to sapphire and ruby but when I tried to trade to other games it wouldn't let me. mine was transparent like a real game and it had Lucario (for some reason) on the label.
The Gen 1 and 2 games had issues trading between different language versions of the game due to data structures being slightly different. My guess is that this would come down to whatever language the pirated rom comes from (remember these can also be edited and translated) is from the same language as the authentic copy
I tried with a red and blue and silver and gold, the problem is not the language, the problem are the roms, because they were modify for dont use battery and work with flash memories, also i cant save the game in the cartige with the retron 5.
One possibility I can think of is that a GBA link cable does not work with original GB games; at least OEM ones. The link cable I got from Analogue has a switch to change between the two, but since you could trade between the GBA games and not the GB games its possible you have a cable that only works with GBA games
It may be due to the fake Emerald being the real rom on a fake cartridge, but the Green cartridge is a hacked rom, as it is in english, it's either a Blue or Red pokemon game with the Green modded in or a Green with a translation patch.
They aren’t fake. They are flashed roms on a cart. A fake game is more of a made up version like ash grey, orange version, liquid crystal version. Seeing if a flashed Rom works yes I’ve knew this since the black and white, heart gold and soul silver they all work with official to trade since it’s a copy of the exact game. Now your theory is if a fake like ash grey would trade with red,blue, yellow and green
I'd like to know if I can trade from Team Rocket Edition to English Green. I have both and haven't tried it yet. If the ROMs can trade, then I see no reason why a game built on top of the platform of the original game couldn't.
They are fake because they don't use the original PCB boards. That means they likely won't work properly with other games such as the Stadium games or Colosseum/XD. If you get the proper PCB board from a reputable seller, then they will work just like the originals.
@@mups4016 if I make a special “Harley Davidson” motorcycle in my garage and it wasn’t from a Harley-Davidson factory, then it is a fake. Even if it has an authentic frame it is not a real Harley-Davidson. Same thing here. Romhacks are what they are, rom hacks. Not real Pokemon games. They’re fake homie
If on emulators it's possible to do all that, and even trade with rom hacks, I suspect the same would happen with physical copies. Because what really matters is the rom itself, and the flash chip of the according size on the PCB. Gen I and II used 64K flash chips but Gen III used 128K. The other point really being to have official cables on real hardware, as GB consoles tend to be a little erratic. So if you got a good repro that has a flash chip of the correct size and a good battery, there shouldn't be any problems. Though I know really cheap gen III repros were circulating with 64K flash chips. They played just fine but at some point it just corrupted your save file because the save itself went out of memory bounds for double of the chip's size.
Idk if roms count as "fake games", but on my modded 3DS, I am able to trade pokemons from my Gen 4 pokemon roms like Pokemon Platinum and Heartgold/SoulSilver win my physical Pokemon Pearl game, and I think the reason why it works is because since I'm playing the rom on a Console from the DS/3DS family and not any other consoles, it detects the rom and a real gamesince it is using the DS system built in the 3DS
There are a few things I figured out when i ended up with a fake sapphire version. As you showed you can trade with legit games. But something i found out out is you can’t transfer through pal park to D/P/P. So something i tested was trading to the legit copy and sending that pokemon all the way to current games which worked. One thing that didn’t work for transferring was some shiny gameshark mons that I managed to send from pearl to B/W. Those couldn’t be sent to pokemon bank so they are forever stuck in gen 5
I got a bootleg version of Fire Red back in the day to use for Pal Park in D/P and it would wipe all the data on the Fire Red cart whenever i used Pal Park. I was wondering what was up with it as it was pretty convincing but the big clue was a unfolded box and the manual was only a couple of pages long Perfectly playable outside of that, but yeah considering that was the reason why i got it lol
So the fake cartridge showed up in the platinum menu to transfer? I'm buying a ruby and sapphire soon and thought that would be a way to check authenticity
When i was a kid (during gen 3 games were out) i had a fake game i got from the flea market and got a level 3 deoxys, traded it to my emerald version, and flexed on everyone lol everyone wanted one so bad
what happens if you try to trade from a fan made game like chaos black or dark rising? really curious about the fan made pokemon too as to what the real game would recognize it as if it could connect
I remember having a romhack game called frigo returns and that had a fake pokemon which I actually shiny hunted and traded to pokemon Ruby. Right after the fake game deleted its save file. I am probably the only person to of seen that thing shiny. It became articuno by the way
As far as i know, as long as its a viable rom of the game on whatever cartridge, it'll work. Ive traded from injected roms on my 3ds to actual cartridge on my original ds and it worked perfectly, so no reason why the same or similar rom wouldn't work running off of a cartridge
I remember doing this as a kid back in 2004! Made it easy to do new games on real copies with all 3 starters. It's also possible to trade between real games and romhack gba cartridges
I remember having a fake copy of Firered that i leant to a friend. I also traded him my charizard to train on his legit copy of leaf green. Long story short he traded the charizard to the fake copy which ended up corrupting its save and took my charizard with it. Still get salty every now and then but i guess it was my bad for owning a bootleg game lol.
It looks like you are trying to use the GBA Link Cable for GB games. You need to get a GB Link cable to get the trade function working since the GBA Link cable isn't backwards compatible.
😅 you can actually trade with the proper gb or gba cable in gen 1 2 and 3 , also. if u dont save manually after trading in the fake game you keep your previous save file because they dont automatically save like the original do mid trade, so you can keep items and in gen 2 and 3 by sacrificing some ratattas or pidgeys from the other cartridge and now you have the mons and items in both games. in gen 4 you trade normally and the fake game s or r4s do save mid. trade so same as original games
It has nothing to do with the cart being fake. The reason this does not work is because you are trying to use a GameBoy Advance link cable for a GameBoy/GameBoy Color game. The GameBoy Pocket/Color Link Cable will look the same, but it is NOT compatible due to differences in how the cable is wired. The protocol is NOT the same. That said, even if you were to use a proper link cable, it is likely yuou would get garbled glitch Pokemon in gen 1 trading from an English to Japanese game. Keep in mind, Pokemon Green is a fan translation, not a rom hack. The way the game compresses data is likely different from how the English Red/Blue/Yellow work. This means that the results you would get have nothing to do with the authenticity of the cart, but simply would be the same with an authentic Japanese Pocket Monsters Green as well.
The only thing that I can think of is that technically, it’s only fake in the fact that the cartridge is self is not authentic because it’s using the same ROM for the game and that shouldn’t make a difference. It’s the same thing that Nintendo does when they have the Older, Pokémon games on the switch, and the comb populated some kind of trade system with it since link cables cannot be used on a switch. what I’m trying to say as long as you have the ROM of the game there shouldn’t be any issue trading between a real game and a “fake game”
Game boy games used different cables than the game boy advance did. So using a gba cable to link old game boy games won’t read. The cables for old game boy can still be plugged into a gba so thankfully you won’t need old game boys to do it
From my experience (at least with Gen 3 and 4 bootlegs), they have no trouble trading with other games. Only issues are with generation 3 bootlegs. They cannot connect with any Gamecube games, distribution events or migrate to generation 4. I cannot confirm if this also happens with generation 4 but i do know that fakes can transfer to generation 5.
gen 3 gba carts had an extra layer of security code that gen 4 games and the gamecube games would read before allowing any migration etc. gen 3 bootlegs tho can trade with gen 3 games even romhacks if they are on a cart
Its true firered fake after elite 4 battle deletes the save because it gets bigger? I have a fake and 18 hours i am in elite 4 attempt t beat it,ni problems at the moment
@@xamergt no, not necessarily after the elite four. All of the data in the game is present from the beginning so the save couldn't have gotten 'bigger'. I have had my first fire red save file corrupt and stop saving entirely after starting the post game though. One other thing I recommend if you use bootlegs is try to play on a GBA rather than a DS since that can maybe cause issues? (Can't confirm)
@@shinyshinx789 i play in gba sp ,i read that the game has save 64bit but Pokémon games have double that the real ones 128 bit,so after the elite 4 the data corrupt because of the save it not the size that it be after the elite 4.maybe your problem is like that case
Probably not. That requires a physical RTC (Real-Time Clock) component. Basically, real Emerald copies have a small watch inside them. Reproductions won't put in parts they don't need to because that would require effort and would be more expensive. This is just an educated guess mind you. I used to flip GBA Pokemon games. Saw plenty of fakes on eBay, none with RTC components
Another issue might be region: pokemon green was origionaly a japanese version of the game, so even if it's translated into english my guess is it might only be able to trade with a japanese copy of red or green
Speaking of fake games, my buddy saw Pokemon Clover in a Granny B's.... I know it's a free download, but like, I had to just for the novelty. The fact someone went through the effort of putting it into an actual cartridge with a custom sticker that would look official to anyone who didn't know better. Wild. It works too is the funny part. Since it uses Firered as a base, I am wondering what would happen if I tried... Probably wouldn't work or cause a game crash/data corruption, assuming they could connect.
Fun fact most fake pokemon green cartridges are just pokemon blue patched to say pokemon green. I've dumped a couple of these cartridges and even made patches for it.
I remember when I tried trading between a fake emerald and a real XD on the game cube, the XD wiped out the save data of the fake emerald. Back then, didnt know I had a fake emerald. Lost 40+ hours of game play like that. After that I traded with my real leafgreen just fine, so the link cable was ok.
I have bootleg cartridges of soul silver and platinum and they work just fine. I've traded Pokemon back and forth from each on a new 3DS and DSi XL and DS lite. I have yet to test if migrating from the GBA games work.
I had a fake platinum as my first Pokémon. My sister had a real pearl. Worked fine. Except if she left the trade or underground first, my game would crash
You didn't fully confirm everything. Save the game on both and restart. When I did this, the rom version didn't recognize the pokemon from the legit version and gave back the OG mon that was traded
Er, the use of "fake" here is a bit loose for what I was hoping to see. I was expecting you to use those weird rom hacks or something, but these appear to just be normal roms dumped onto cheap carts, and obviously the cart itself is irrelevant to whether or not it would work. It's still "fake," but I was expecting more "bootleg." Was really hoping to see you try to trade with Vietnamese Crystal!
The trade function is a game mechanic, as long as it's a clean rom, it will work. I've done successful trades between emulators, between a flash cart running the rom and an actual cartridge and even between a modded 3DS running the game through TWM++ and another DS running an actual cartridge. I've also had successful trades between a romhack and a legit game so unless the bootleg somehow messed around with the game's code in some wierd way, you should have no issues with trading. (Unless it's between a Japanese and an English copy of the Gen 1 or 2 games, that will corrupt the saves, for some reason I don't fully understand)
I was given fake gen 3 games during my childhood, they always worked perfectly fine up until I attempted to use the Pal Park to bring the Pokemon up to gen 4. Since I was a dumb child I didn't actually click onto the fact that they were fake and that it was Pal Park that was messing them up until a few years later when I was playing with the last fake one that worked- Fire Red and realised that, oh hey, these games that my mum got off Ebay for like £5 might not be legit. I didn't have a second GBA or a cable or anyone else who played gen 3 so I guess it'll be a mystery forever more if the fakes would've similarly corrupted had I attempted to trade.
when i was a kid i got some fake games in turkey, in one there was a bush at spawn where i could find lvl 2 deoxys's so i farmed them and traded to emerald/leafgreen it was dope
Can you see if the 369-in-one game supports transferring to the gen 4 games with pal park? I remember my first Pokemon game was Emerald, and I finished it... but it turned out it was a bootleg, and the save data wiped itself when I tried to transfer my Pokemon into Pearl.
Gba cables rarely worked for GB games, i thought the one i got from GAME was faulty but it only worked for GBA to GBA. The old ones that are kinda hdmi looking work between gb to gb console
I have this same copy of green. The first trade I tried, it lost the pokemon traded over from blue but blue received the pokemon from green. The second trade worked.
I kinda did that with my fake sapphire version to my original emerald version with my Kyogre. I love this mon, i have it right know in pokemon scarlet, more than 20 years!
I’ve been trading between real leafgreen and a fake firered, only way I could tell it’s fake is when it loads it says “the save file is ok”. Every other time I trade from the fake to authentic, the Pokémon and items from the fake simply get copied, and the authentic Pokémon disappear. I ended up with a bunch of moon stones and extra tms 😂. The trade appears successful, but when you restart the game, it might not be lol.
not sure if it works like this for all fake gba games, but i have tried to use the pal park feature to transfer to genuine gen 4 games from a bootleg copy of firered and the gen 4 games do NOT recognize the fake firered. the copy i used was one of those worse bootlegs (that start up with "the save file is ok") and i have no idea if it works between a better bootleg, or how it works on flashcarts/multi-game carts. just something i thought was interesting
Is it possible to link fake Gen 3 games to Pokemon Colosseum/XD Gale of Darkness, fake Gen 4 games to Pokemon Battle Revolution, and fake Gen 1/2 games to Pokemon Stadium 1 & 2?
Infact on android, you can download a certain emulator (*I'll edit in a bit to what name) and u can open two files of Pokemon at once, and trade emulator to emulator on ur android.
now here's the challenge, can you transfer a pokemon from the fake emerald all the way into pokemon bank and from there home? (had a shaymin from one of those emulator cardridges at one point, got shaymin on a diamond, sent it to my platinum, it went to B2 no problem, but Bank recognized it immediatly as a problem so it's just eternally the last of my pokemon in unova hunting the last of N's pokemon. Can't find purloin for the life of me)
If it's a emulated version of red/blue/yellow then yes you can trade on fake carts as long as it's an emulated version as for trading through real to fake idk
OMG. You should of shown the ones for the old gb color for trading cables them things were massive if you used that from a color to sp the sp looked small.
I bought an unauthentic Ruby version and attempted to trade a pokemon to my authentic Emerald. The trade was unsuccessful and the fake Ruby deleted my save file.
Weird.. bc i got a fake gen 3 ruby game and it had level 3 legendaries like mew, deoxys, moltres and what not and i was able to trade it to my emerald version successfully
@@gotsnoname This was back in 2013… I think I got it on Ebay for like $10 or something and I don’t think counterfeit copies were as prevelent as they were now. I’ll assume that there are many different iterations of these counterfeit Pokemon games and I got a lame one that I couldn’t trade on.
I had a third party GBA link cable when I was younger and there was a slider on it that said GB on one end and GBA on the other. When using my GBC games (on GBASP) I had to push that slider to the GB section. Does yours have that maybe?
Likely because of how your fake copy stores save data. Real copies store in Flash memory on the cartridge, but most fakes don't have a flash chip. So instead, people who sell the fake copies actually use a patched version of the game that writes to an area in ROM instead. It works fine, but it means your gen 4 games won't be able to find the save data because it's not in the normal location.
yes you can trade pokemon in a fake version and it is much stronger than the original one.. for example level 1 charizard gaining 4 points each stats upon leveling
If you trade them from a fake/repro copy to a real game, I don't think it would ever detect it as having any problems if you were to transfer to Gen 4 and etc
The only reason I have fake Pokemon games is because I couldn’t afford the real GBA games 😅 I used to have every game up to Ultra moon and Ultra Sun (minus green) but had to sell them a few years ago…
I own only genuine hardware and I never got trading to work with Gen 1 games on GameBoy Advance consoles and their specific cable. Not sure if it's just me, but maybe your fake game isn't at fault.
I have a physical cartridge of Volt White 2 Redux and I have traded Pokemon from my Black 2 over to that game and vice versa, and I can confirm it works with those games. But tbh I think it comes down to the quality of the ROM present in the hack games if anything. I used to own a lot of bootlegged GBA games as a kid and all of the Pokemon ones erased eventually just on their own, they also refused to migrate from gen 3 to 4. Now games where new Pokemon are added I'm sure trading won't work. I have a physical copy of Clover I could try, but I imagine that game will just give me a bad egg, so I'm not really sure if I wanna try that just yet. Would be interesting to maybe test out though, maybe. So, yeah, sometimes trading between fake to real to works, sometimes it doesn't. There's a surprising comparison to be made with the quality of bootlegged games.
Can you make a vid on if you can trade between a rom-hack cartridge and a real cartridge? I've seen people do that successfully for official pokemon but I haven't seen someone try with the rom-hacked fan-pokemon to a real game.
Thank you guys for the support! I'm aware now that the GBA link cable isn't compatible with GB games and may test again in the future!
If you have two cables, you might be able to plug them both into each other and play GB games with the P2 ports.
It doesn't work because the P1 port determines the master, whereas the GB does its master/slave connection differently - swapping states based on who's sending or recieving.
I have an old 3rd party cable that has a toggle switch to go from GBA to GB mode. I did use it back in the day and it did work in both modes. It wasnt supposed to be able to plug into an original gameboy because of the extra tab on the GBA cable but i broke that tab off and it worked between 2 GBs and not just with GBAs. I assume trading would work between the real and fake Gen 1 games since they are literally ROM dumps on cheap boards.
Umm… when I had my Gameboy Advance, my GBA Link Cable worked for my GB Games.. thats how I sent Mew, Mewtwo to Pokémon Gold and Silver.
@@shayne537it may have been a gba/gb hybrid cord. If I'm remembering right my Nintendo cable worked with both as well. Recently bought 3rd party cords and had the same issue, where 2 only work with GBA and the other 2 only work with GB.
@@KopperNeoman you say might, but do you know of anyone that has attempted this?
If you're using the same GBA link cable with the GB games then they wont work properly. The cables are wired differently and the GB games expect the proper GB cables to make the connection.
Exactly what I was thinking, he needs a different set of cables. :D
Was just about to write this. Vividly remember this that you definitily need a GB/GBC Cable for GB/GBC games and GBA cable for GBA games.
Yeah, my link cable has a switch for GBA and GBC mode and GB only works in GBC mode. Trading to a fake copy should work, I've done it when I transfered my team from Pokemon Green to my legit Gold cart.
You can use two Offical GBA Link Cables, plug the purple ends into the middle part on the other cable, then use the grey ends and it will work with Gen 1 and 2 games played on the GBA
I read this commetnt before watching and thought "there's no way hed make a video about this without knowing this common knowledge"
-then i saw the replies...
Traded from an authentic sapphire and leafgreen, to a FAKE platinum, then to authentic black and white, then X and Y. turns out it was a pretty well made bootleg, traded though all the generations. Didn't know it was fake till years later.
i need me a fake like that. my last one corrupted everything when i get moltres
fake your own fakes@@lilatune
Same with this fire red
where you able to bank those pokemon though?
@@janoko-yf8ku Yes, they all went through the bank. They had to go through the bank to get from X and Y, to Sun and Moon.
There was this pretty notorious fake called "Perla" for the GBA and I had it when I was like 11. It was supposed to be a modded emerald but there was no way to get past Petalburg and play any further and that bummed me out at first, but then I discovered that for some reason you could catch a level 2-3 Deoxys near Petalburg and I remember losing my mind cus it was my absolute favorite pokemon (still is) and I had no way to get one esp where I was. I then tried to see if I could transfer it to my actual copy of Ruby using the link-cable and IT ACTUALLY WORKED, and at the time, that alone to me made it worth shelling out most of my pocket money for lol. I was so happy. 😭
OMG first person I see that had the same game I had... I caught that deoxys over and over and traded to sapphire and ruby but when I tried to trade to other games it wouldn't let me. mine was transparent like a real game and it had Lucario (for some reason) on the label.
The Gen 1 and 2 games had issues trading between different language versions of the game due to data structures being slightly different. My guess is that this would come down to whatever language the pirated rom comes from (remember these can also be edited and translated) is from the same language as the authentic copy
Specifically, Japanese and Korean games used a different save format from other regions.
european carts with x language can trade with american ones just fine, the problem comes when you try to do the same with japanese games
I tried with a red and blue and silver and gold, the problem is not the language, the problem are the roms, because they were modify for dont use battery and work with flash memories, also i cant save the game in the cartige with the retron 5.
One possibility I can think of is that a GBA link cable does not work with original GB games; at least OEM ones. The link cable I got from Analogue has a switch to change between the two, but since you could trade between the GBA games and not the GB games its possible you have a cable that only works with GBA games
It may be due to the fake Emerald being the real rom on a fake cartridge, but the Green cartridge is a hacked rom, as it is in english, it's either a Blue or Red pokemon game with the Green modded in or a Green with a translation patch.
I feel old that in 2023 you have to explain what a link cable is.
It’s like nobody has families anymore 😂
You took my Gary
They aren’t fake. They are flashed roms on a cart. A fake game is more of a made up version like ash grey, orange version, liquid crystal version. Seeing if a flashed Rom works yes I’ve knew this since the black and white, heart gold and soul silver they all work with official to trade since it’s a copy of the exact game. Now your theory is if a fake like ash grey would trade with red,blue, yellow and green
I'd like to know if I can trade from Team Rocket Edition to English Green. I have both and haven't tried it yet. If the ROMs can trade, then I see no reason why a game built on top of the platform of the original game couldn't.
They are fake in the terms of authenticity. They’re not an original copy of the game. Reproduction
They are fake because they don't use the original PCB boards. That means they likely won't work properly with other games such as the Stadium games or Colosseum/XD. If you get the proper PCB board from a reputable seller, then they will work just like the originals.
Don't call romhacks fake games. Those takes years of work to produce.
@@mups4016 if I make a special “Harley Davidson” motorcycle in my garage and it wasn’t from a Harley-Davidson factory, then it is a fake. Even if it has an authentic frame it is not a real Harley-Davidson. Same thing here. Romhacks are what they are, rom hacks. Not real Pokemon games. They’re fake homie
If on emulators it's possible to do all that, and even trade with rom hacks, I suspect the same would happen with physical copies. Because what really matters is the rom itself, and the flash chip of the according size on the PCB. Gen I and II used 64K flash chips but Gen III used 128K. The other point really being to have official cables on real hardware, as GB consoles tend to be a little erratic.
So if you got a good repro that has a flash chip of the correct size and a good battery, there shouldn't be any problems. Though I know really cheap gen III repros were circulating with 64K flash chips. They played just fine but at some point it just corrupted your save file because the save itself went out of memory bounds for double of the chip's size.
You’re answering a question I’ve had for 15+ years. Thank you for your service.
it actually works. He was just using the wrong cable.GBA cable is not compatible with GB games
Idk if roms count as "fake games", but on my modded 3DS, I am able to trade pokemons from my Gen 4 pokemon roms like Pokemon Platinum and Heartgold/SoulSilver win my physical Pokemon Pearl game, and I think the reason why it works is because since I'm playing the rom on a Console from the DS/3DS family and not any other consoles, it detects the rom and a real gamesince it is using the DS system built in the 3DS
There are a few things I figured out when i ended up with a fake sapphire version. As you showed you can trade with legit games. But something i found out out is you can’t transfer through pal park to D/P/P. So something i tested was trading to the legit copy and sending that pokemon all the way to current games which worked. One thing that didn’t work for transferring was some shiny gameshark mons that I managed to send from pearl to B/W. Those couldn’t be sent to pokemon bank so they are forever stuck in gen 5
I got a bootleg version of Fire Red back in the day to use for Pal Park in D/P and it would wipe all the data on the Fire Red cart whenever i used Pal Park. I was wondering what was up with it as it was pretty convincing but the big clue was a unfolded box and the manual was only a couple of pages long
Perfectly playable outside of that, but yeah considering that was the reason why i got it lol
So the fake cartridge showed up in the platinum menu to transfer? I'm buying a ruby and sapphire soon and thought that would be a way to check authenticity
When i was a kid (during gen 3 games were out) i had a fake game i got from the flea market and got a level 3 deoxys, traded it to my emerald version, and flexed on everyone lol everyone wanted one so bad
what happens if you try to trade from a fan made game like chaos black or dark rising? really curious about the fan made pokemon too as to what the real game would recognize it as if it could connect
Can also confirm that the DS pokemon games are able to trade just fine. You're even able to trade from most ROM hacks which is kinda weird lol.
I remember having a romhack game called frigo returns and that had a fake pokemon which I actually shiny hunted and traded to pokemon Ruby. Right after the fake game deleted its save file. I am probably the only person to of seen that thing shiny. It became articuno by the way
shiny articuno?
As far as i know, as long as its a viable rom of the game on whatever cartridge, it'll work. Ive traded from injected roms on my 3ds to actual cartridge on my original ds and it worked perfectly, so no reason why the same or similar rom wouldn't work running off of a cartridge
I remember doing this as a kid back in 2004! Made it easy to do new games on real copies with all 3 starters. It's also possible to trade between real games and romhack gba cartridges
I remember having a fake copy of Firered that i leant to a friend. I also traded him my charizard to train on his legit copy of leaf green. Long story short he traded the charizard to the fake copy which ended up corrupting its save and took my charizard with it. Still get salty every now and then but i guess it was my bad for owning a bootleg game lol.
I've always wanted someone to try to do this! Thank you kevdog!
It looks like you are trying to use the GBA Link Cable for GB games. You need to get a GB Link cable to get the trade function working since the GBA Link cable isn't backwards compatible.
That makes a lot of sense... sorry I should've thought of that!
😅 you can actually trade with the proper gb or gba cable in gen 1 2 and 3 , also. if u dont save manually after trading in the fake game you keep your previous save file because they dont automatically save like the original do mid trade, so you can keep items and in gen 2 and 3 by sacrificing some ratattas or pidgeys from the other cartridge and now you have the mons and items in both games.
in gen 4 you trade normally and the fake game s or r4s do save mid. trade so same as original games
@rockvent918 so if I don't save after trading charmander from a fake leafgreen game I would be able to clone it from a pidgey or something
@@KevdogPlaysare you serious dude?
It has nothing to do with the cart being fake. The reason this does not work is because you are trying to use a GameBoy Advance link cable for a GameBoy/GameBoy Color game. The GameBoy Pocket/Color Link Cable will look the same, but it is NOT compatible due to differences in how the cable is wired. The protocol is NOT the same.
That said, even if you were to use a proper link cable, it is likely yuou would get garbled glitch Pokemon in gen 1 trading from an English to Japanese game. Keep in mind, Pokemon Green is a fan translation, not a rom hack. The way the game compresses data is likely different from how the English Red/Blue/Yellow work. This means that the results you would get have nothing to do with the authenticity of the cart, but simply would be the same with an authentic Japanese Pocket Monsters Green as well.
I've also had issues with gen 4 when when it comes to migrating from fakes.
The only thing that I can think of is that technically, it’s only fake in the fact that the cartridge is self is not authentic because it’s using the same ROM for the game and that shouldn’t make a difference. It’s the same thing that Nintendo does when they have the Older, Pokémon games on the switch, and the comb populated some kind of trade system with it since link cables cannot be used on a switch. what I’m trying to say as long as you have the ROM of the game there shouldn’t be any issue trading between a real game and a “fake game”
Game boy games used different cables than the game boy advance did. So using a gba cable to link old game boy games won’t read. The cables for old game boy can still be plugged into a gba so thankfully you won’t need old game boys to do it
From my experience (at least with Gen 3 and 4 bootlegs), they have no trouble trading with other games.
Only issues are with generation 3 bootlegs. They cannot connect with any Gamecube games, distribution events or migrate to generation 4.
I cannot confirm if this also happens with generation 4 but i do know that fakes can transfer to generation 5.
gen 3 gba carts had an extra layer of security code that gen 4 games and the gamecube games would read before allowing any migration etc.
gen 3 bootlegs tho can trade with gen 3 games even romhacks if they are on a cart
@@MirehManuh thank you for summarising my point in fewer words.
Its true firered fake after elite 4 battle deletes the save because it gets bigger? I have a fake and 18 hours i am in elite 4 attempt t beat it,ni problems at the moment
@@xamergt no, not necessarily after the elite four. All of the data in the game is present from the beginning so the save couldn't have gotten 'bigger'. I have had my first fire red save file corrupt and stop saving entirely after starting the post game though. One other thing I recommend if you use bootlegs is try to play on a GBA rather than a DS since that can maybe cause issues? (Can't confirm)
@@shinyshinx789 i play in gba sp ,i read that the game has save 64bit but Pokémon games have double that the real ones 128 bit,so after the elite 4 the data corrupt because of the save it not the size that it be after the elite 4.maybe your problem is like that case
Does the 369 in 1 cartridge have a running clock system for emerald so you can catch Pokémon at night and day and stuff?
Probably not. That requires a physical RTC (Real-Time Clock) component. Basically, real Emerald copies have a small watch inside them. Reproductions won't put in parts they don't need to because that would require effort and would be more expensive.
This is just an educated guess mind you. I used to flip GBA Pokemon games. Saw plenty of fakes on eBay, none with RTC components
Another issue might be region: pokemon green was origionaly a japanese version of the game, so even if it's translated into english my guess is it might only be able to trade with a japanese copy of red or green
Speaking of fake games, my buddy saw Pokemon Clover in a Granny B's.... I know it's a free download, but like, I had to just for the novelty. The fact someone went through the effort of putting it into an actual cartridge with a custom sticker that would look official to anyone who didn't know better. Wild.
It works too is the funny part. Since it uses Firered as a base, I am wondering what would happen if I tried... Probably wouldn't work or cause a game crash/data corruption, assuming they could connect.
Fun fact most fake pokemon green cartridges are just pokemon blue patched to say pokemon green. I've dumped a couple of these cartridges and even made patches for it.
the fact you can trade fake pokemon to real games and vice versa is a creepypasta waiting to happen.
I remember when I tried trading between a fake emerald and a real XD on the game cube, the XD wiped out the save data of the fake emerald. Back then, didnt know I had a fake emerald. Lost 40+ hours of game play like that.
After that I traded with my real leafgreen just fine, so the link cable was ok.
Trading works with real or fake copies. The only things you can’t do with fake copies is migrate or trade from colosseum, XD, and stadium.
It makes sense the fakes can trade with the original. Game Freak probably did not have the chip space to put in any anti-piracy software.
known for years. the games didn't had the fake check back then
at least try to trade a pokémon from the fake up to Home
I have bootleg cartridges of soul silver and platinum and they work just fine. I've traded Pokemon back and forth from each on a new 3DS and DSi XL and DS lite. I have yet to test if migrating from the GBA games work.
I had a fake platinum as my first Pokémon. My sister had a real pearl. Worked fine. Except if she left the trade or underground first, my game would crash
You didn't fully confirm everything. Save the game on both and restart. When I did this, the rom version didn't recognize the pokemon from the legit version and gave back the OG mon that was traded
Trading has always been an issue back when we used cables even between real games.
Hooking up the link cable and battling against friends in Megaman BN3 was my whole childhood.
That pokemon green copy is empty like my brain
The real question is can you bring the traded Pokémon to Gen 9?
I'm pretty sure yeah. I'll make a video testing it
That's my question as well
Using pokémon Bank and a save injector for the 3DS virtual console games you can easily send them up all the way
I have my Kyogre from my Fake shappire version in pokemon Scarlet. I didnt have problems
Er, the use of "fake" here is a bit loose for what I was hoping to see.
I was expecting you to use those weird rom hacks or something, but these appear to just be normal roms dumped onto cheap carts, and obviously the cart itself is irrelevant to whether or not it would work. It's still "fake," but I was expecting more "bootleg."
Was really hoping to see you try to trade with Vietnamese Crystal!
The trade function is a game mechanic, as long as it's a clean rom, it will work.
I've done successful trades between emulators, between a flash cart running the rom and an actual cartridge and even between a modded 3DS running the game through TWM++ and another DS running an actual cartridge.
I've also had successful trades between a romhack and a legit game so unless the bootleg somehow messed around with the game's code in some wierd way, you should have no issues with trading.
(Unless it's between a Japanese and an English copy of the Gen 1 or 2 games, that will corrupt the saves, for some reason I don't fully understand)
fake copies of gen 5 work too. they can even get mystery gifts
Interesting! I’ve never even seen a fake gen 5 game before, other than those 100 games in 1 catridges
What would happen if you tried to trade between a real game and a romhack?
If it’s not too different of a rom hack, maybe? But if it was let’s say… FireRed and Flora Sky, definitely wouldn’t work
I was given fake gen 3 games during my childhood, they always worked perfectly fine up until I attempted to use the Pal Park to bring the Pokemon up to gen 4. Since I was a dumb child I didn't actually click onto the fact that they were fake and that it was Pal Park that was messing them up until a few years later when I was playing with the last fake one that worked- Fire Red and realised that, oh hey, these games that my mum got off Ebay for like £5 might not be legit.
I didn't have a second GBA or a cable or anyone else who played gen 3 so I guess it'll be a mystery forever more if the fakes would've similarly corrupted had I attempted to trade.
when i was a kid i got some fake games in turkey, in one there was a bush at spawn where i could find lvl 2 deoxys's so i farmed them and traded to emerald/leafgreen it was dope
You can trade with a fake one, using a Game Boy Color cable - even a fake one....
Can you see if the 369-in-one game supports transferring to the gen 4 games with pal park? I remember my first Pokemon game was Emerald, and I finished it... but it turned out it was a bootleg, and the save data wiped itself when I tried to transfer my Pokemon into Pearl.
Gba cables rarely worked for GB games, i thought the one i got from GAME was faulty but it only worked for GBA to GBA. The old ones that are kinda hdmi looking work between gb to gb console
I remember doing this 20 years ago just to complete my pokedex
I have this same copy of green. The first trade I tried, it lost the pokemon traded over from blue but blue received the pokemon from green. The second trade worked.
Japanese Pokemon red and green are also gray carts. That’s a great giveaway for anyone who is looking for the Japanese games
Idk why i got sm nostalgia from the trade animations broooo i miss nintendo wfc
I kinda did that with my fake sapphire version to my original emerald version with my Kyogre. I love this mon, i have it right know in pokemon scarlet, more than 20 years!
I’ve been trading between real leafgreen and a fake firered, only way I could tell it’s fake is when it loads it says “the save file is ok”. Every other time I trade from the fake to authentic, the Pokémon and items from the fake simply get copied, and the authentic Pokémon disappear. I ended up with a bunch of moon stones and extra tms 😂. The trade appears successful, but when you restart the game, it might not be lol.
I mean, if it's running an unmodified ROM idk why it wouldn't work
GBA link cables don't work with Game Boy games. You need an actual GBP/GBC link cable for this to work.
Is it a GBA cable you have there? Gen 1 will only trade with a GB/GBC cable, not the GBA cable.
If the fake copy still works as a normal copy then is there any difference besides not being made by gamefreak?
This guy just took someone's Gary
not sure if it works like this for all fake gba games, but i have tried to use the pal park feature to transfer to genuine gen 4 games from a bootleg copy of firered and the gen 4 games do NOT recognize the fake firered. the copy i used was one of those worse bootlegs (that start up with "the save file is ok") and i have no idea if it works between a better bootleg, or how it works on flashcarts/multi-game carts. just something i thought was interesting
Your 369 in 1 saves? I took a video of my cart failing to save in EVERY Pokémon game
Did you finish first mission? I also thought that my trading doesn't work on fake yellow and red but then after playing some time it works
When you said fake game i was thinking you were going to do some kind of homebrew that trades pokemon not just bootlegs.
I can probably make a vid on a rom hack cartridge trading with a legit copy
For original Gameboy games you need an original Link Cable. A GBA cable will not work.
hmmm maybe the fact green never had an english release is a dead giveaway
It is probably just a translation rom hack for pokémon Green
Before watching, I remember being able to trade between Pokémon Topaz and Pokémon Orange
Now the question is, can you play pokemon revolution on the wii with a fake 4th gen game?
Is it possible to link fake Gen 3 games to Pokemon Colosseum/XD Gale of Darkness, fake Gen 4 games to Pokemon Battle Revolution, and fake Gen 1/2 games to Pokemon Stadium 1 & 2?
Infact on android, you can download a certain emulator (*I'll edit in a bit to what name) and u can open two files of Pokemon at once, and trade emulator to emulator on ur android.
now here's the challenge, can you transfer a pokemon from the fake emerald all the way into pokemon bank and from there home? (had a shaymin from one of those emulator cardridges at one point, got shaymin on a diamond, sent it to my platinum, it went to B2 no problem, but Bank recognized it immediatly as a problem so it's just eternally the last of my pokemon in unova hunting the last of N's pokemon. Can't find purloin for the life of me)
If it's a emulated version of red/blue/yellow then yes you can trade on fake carts as long as it's an emulated version as for trading through real to fake idk
OMG. You should of shown the ones for the old gb color for trading cables them things were massive if you used that from a color to sp the sp looked small.
You could also gameshark Pokemon I use to have mew and stuff haha
Oh. That game no saving is due to the chip that saves time being broke had have real Gameboy games break because of that... 😅
I only recently did a trade between my real copy of fire red and the rom of ultra violent on a cartridge and it worked perfectly
I was able to transfer my pokémon from a fake platinum cartridge onto pokemon battle revolution for the wii
I’ve traded between my counterfeit gen 3 games to my real gen 3 games, same for gen 4. I bought them on eBay when I was like 13 so circa 2014?
Gen1 works too as long as they’re the same region games.
Fake consoles can trade if CPU timer works correctly.
I bought an unauthentic Ruby version and attempted to trade a pokemon to my authentic Emerald. The trade was unsuccessful and the fake Ruby deleted my save file.
Weird.. bc i got a fake gen 3 ruby game and it had level 3 legendaries like mew, deoxys, moltres and what not and i was able to trade it to my emerald version successfully
@@gotsnoname This was back in 2013… I think I got it on Ebay for like $10 or something and I don’t think counterfeit copies were as prevelent as they were now. I’ll assume that there are many different iterations of these counterfeit Pokemon games and I got a lame one that I couldn’t trade on.
@@gotsnonamewas your emerald fake
Something I've been wondering is can the fake copy transfer up to a legit copy of gen 4?
I had a third party GBA link cable when I was younger and there was a slider on it that said GB on one end and GBA on the other. When using my GBC games (on GBASP) I had to push that slider to the GB section. Does yours have that maybe?
I tried stuff like this before, it wouldn't let me migrate pokemon from fake gen 3 into real gen 4.
Likely because of how your fake copy stores save data. Real copies store in Flash memory on the cartridge, but most fakes don't have a flash chip. So instead, people who sell the fake copies actually use a patched version of the game that writes to an area in ROM instead. It works fine, but it means your gen 4 games won't be able to find the save data because it's not in the normal location.
Ah ok, luckily I managed to get a real copy of all the games before the price went up, I got lots of fakes along the way though.
yes you can trade pokemon in a fake version and it is much stronger than the original one.. for example level 1 charizard gaining 4 points each stats upon leveling
hoping theres a way to transfer old pokemon to the newest game version or game console like switch lol
It does work you just need a better cable. That's actually how I was able to collect All my pokemon
I was able to trade with a fake randomized gen 5 game to 100% my legit gen 5 game's pokedex
I wonder, how far up the generations you can send these fake pokemon.
If you trade them from a fake/repro copy to a real game, I don't think it would ever detect it as having any problems if you were to transfer to Gen 4 and etc
You can trade them all the way to the newest generations. I've got a shiny quagsire from a fake diamond and a Mewtwo from a fake fire red up there.
The only reason I have fake Pokemon games is because I couldn’t afford the real GBA games 😅 I used to have every game up to Ultra moon and Ultra Sun (minus green) but had to sell them a few years ago…
I did have a fake copy of Platinum and it worked on sending pokemon to authentic pokemon white
I own only genuine hardware and I never got trading to work with Gen 1 games on GameBoy Advance consoles and their specific cable. Not sure if it's just me, but maybe your fake game isn't at fault.
I managed to with a fake Ruby cart to a legit XD Gale of Darkness.
what about if you trade from a fake gen 3 game to a real gen 4 game?
i remember buying my first link cable when i was in middle school and was able to trade my friends to get alakazam and gengar (24 now)
I traded with a bootleg all in one GBC Pokémon Red to my legit pokemon yellow and blue
I have a physical cartridge of Volt White 2 Redux and I have traded Pokemon from my Black 2 over to that game and vice versa, and I can confirm it works with those games. But tbh I think it comes down to the quality of the ROM present in the hack games if anything. I used to own a lot of bootlegged GBA games as a kid and all of the Pokemon ones erased eventually just on their own, they also refused to migrate from gen 3 to 4.
Now games where new Pokemon are added I'm sure trading won't work. I have a physical copy of Clover I could try, but I imagine that game will just give me a bad egg, so I'm not really sure if I wanna try that just yet. Would be interesting to maybe test out though, maybe.
So, yeah, sometimes trading between fake to real to works, sometimes it doesn't. There's a surprising comparison to be made with the quality of bootlegged games.
Can you make a vid on if you can trade between a rom-hack cartridge and a real cartridge? I've seen people do that successfully for official pokemon but I haven't seen someone try with the rom-hacked fan-pokemon to a real game.
I felt soooo old when you had to explain the cable 😂😅 time flies , pokemon 4ever