Who REALLY discovered Marilyn Monroe? The amazing UNTOLD story of her Rosie the Riveter beginning!

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  • @rosannerossi6376
    @rosannerossi6376 7 місяців тому +45

    I was talking about how much my mom looked like Norma Jean, last night. This morning this video was in my feed. I’m going to pray for Norma Jean, the sweet girl that got ruined by Hollywood. I didn’t know she had plastic surgery and braces! My mom was naturally, prettier than Norma Jean. Glad my mom married her WWII man! My daughter looks like my mother, except my daughter is blonde with hazel eyes (like her father). People always stared at her and she hated it. I got her a violin, because she wanted to play. I figured at least she would be doing something that people had a reason to stare. She’s a stay-at- home mom and gives piano, violin, and viola lessons to kids. It’s a wonderful life. ❤

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому +2

      Wow! Thanks for sharing! Amazing!

  • @lmcsquaredgreendale3223
    @lmcsquaredgreendale3223 7 місяців тому +10

    In an interview after Marilyn's death one of her friends said that Marilyn could walk down a street unnoticed because she could turn being Marilyn Monroe on and off. To set the seen you need to think back to the 50's and 60's and why women covered their hair with lightweight scarves to prevent the wind from messing their hair. Setting your hair was a laborious process.
    I became fascinated with her tragic story because of her ties to the Kennedy men. So the friend bets Marilyn that she'll be recognized immediately as the sidewalks were crowded. Marilyn simply wiped off her lipstick and probably her blush, pulled the scarf forward a bit and slumped her shoulders and taking her friends arm joined the crowds on the sidewalk. They walked for quite a few blocks and people looked at Marilyn but didn't seem to make the connection.
    Then Marilyn stops and ducks into a doorway, once turned away from the sidewalk, she pulled out a lipstick and mirror, applies the lipstick, and she may have used the lipstick as blush (it's a models trick) removes the scarf, shakes out her hair so that it looks windswept, squares her shoulders and taking her friends arm starts walking her famous sexy walk while casually putting on a pair of expensive sunglasses. Her friend said that it was a transformation that was astounding. She was immediately noticed and everyone started screaming that's Marilyn Monroe and it didn't take long for a huge crowd to form asking for her autograph.
    It doesn't surprise me that she saw Marilyn Monroe as an alter ego. She was "discovered" but she wasn't quite good enough for Hollywood so they did a Rhinoplasty, capped her teeth and bleached her hair blonde to be a true platinum blonde. I'm sure the walk was something they worked on as well because other actresses of that time period were told they had to have a distinctive walk that screamed sexy. Lauren Bacall was known for her husky voice, helped by a voice coach to achieve, and sexy walk.

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому +1

      Wow. Great analysis. Did you know if this WWII ronald reagan connection?

    • @ambersemona9676
      @ambersemona9676 6 днів тому

      @@ThisDateI didn’t know that! Also I did hear they found through DNA of who her father was but Had no idea of his name nor seen a photo‼️🫶🏼 Ty Ty Ty for sharing that 🤩

  • @cripplers8
    @cripplers8 7 місяців тому +16

    Your channel is one of the most underrated channels on UA-cam and should have more followers. Being a history buff myself since I was little I really enjoy your content. I’m 56 now and learn quite a bit more between you and Mark Felton. Keep up the great work Nick!

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому +2

      Thank you! We have 160k subs in 9 months, not too bad! But agree we should have more!

  • @carolmanning8367
    @carolmanning8367 7 місяців тому +8

    G'Day from australia. I'm 71 & fell in love with Marilyn in my early 20's. I grew up on 1950 movies but read a book on marilyn in early 70's. I became fascinated by her & have MANY MANY BOOKS & FRAMED PHOTOS OF HER ON MY WALLS. There is not much i haven't read watched her movies many times & still when anything about marilyn comes up on you tube, i'm still here viewing. Makes a nice start to my day when one of the subscriptions of marilyn comes on. Finally at peace, but what a fascinating human.❤

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому

      Wow! Did you learn anything new from our video?

    • @islandiron
      @islandiron 7 місяців тому +1

      @@ThisDate
      I sure did, thanks.

  • @breathejuliet390
    @breathejuliet390 7 місяців тому +10

    Great video! Thank you.

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому +2

      Thank you!

  • @sapelesteve
    @sapelesteve 7 місяців тому +10

    Thanks for posting this amazing story about the real Marilyn! 👍👍

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому

      Thanks for watching!

  • @HogMan2022
    @HogMan2022 7 місяців тому +6

    Excellent Video, Sir. Fascinating!
    Liked and subscribed!🙋

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому

      Thank you ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @Thetreecutter
    @Thetreecutter 7 місяців тому +9

    What a Pity how Norma Jean lived such a trying, hard life.

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому

      So true. So true.

  • @Flussig1
    @Flussig1 7 місяців тому +5

    Remarkable video, much appreciated, subscribed. I had a friend in the 70's that lived accross the street from Arthur Miller in Connecticut. Would loved to have talked to him !

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому

      Wow! The stories he had!

  • @Dive-Bar-Casanova
    @Dive-Bar-Casanova 7 місяців тому +9

    My mom and I would take morning walks along the beach to the Santa Monica Pier. MM would be sitting on a bench reading a book by the carousel some mornings.

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому

      No way! Wow!

  • @islandiron
    @islandiron 7 місяців тому +3

    I found the information in this video, fascinating and educational. You’ve got a new subscriber.

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому

      Thank you!!!!♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

  • @DanielWright-np3fq
    @DanielWright-np3fq 6 місяців тому +3

    This is a quality site: quick, non-congratulatory opening and you get right to the point. The article is concise and entertaining as well as informative. Most of all, it's Nick and not some irritating AI voice narration mispronouncing and making weird inflections. Thank you for this high quality product. As for Norma Jean; I am filled with so much more respect for her.

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  6 місяців тому +1

      Wow. Thank you! Appreciate it! Check out our new video on Top WWII badasses: ua-cam.com/video/pjlpN1Z-FIs/v-deo.html

  • @TWayneD1020
    @TWayneD1020 6 місяців тому +2

    The Beautiful Marilyn !! Thank you so much Nick !!

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  6 місяців тому +1

      Amazing story right?

  • @debbiep4647
    @debbiep4647 7 місяців тому +7

    Very interesting video! How did were they able to do a DNA test??

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому +3

      They did it in 2022 using samples from both parties.

    • @debbiep4647
      @debbiep4647 7 місяців тому +4

      @@ThisDate This is fascinating. What DNA of he's did they have?

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому +3

      Not sure good question

    • @kimberlybanks9969
      @kimberlybanks9969 7 місяців тому

      A lock of hair.

    • @reypolice5231
      @reypolice5231 7 місяців тому +3

      Sad that he refuses his own daughter in fear. Turned away and unwanted. They saw her physical beauty, but never her as a person and she grabbed on to what ever material security she could to feel safe and wanted.
      Very Painful, yes a Shakespearean tragedy. shakespearian

  • @jameslookstwice
    @jameslookstwice 7 місяців тому +7

    Beautiful woman.She will never be forgotten.

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому +3

      Amazing story!

    • @jameslookstwice
      @jameslookstwice 7 місяців тому +1

      @@ThisDate Yea,A true Natural beauty.

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому +1

      @@jameslookstwice 💔💔💔

    • @jameslookstwice
      @jameslookstwice 7 місяців тому +2

      @@ThisDate ❤️❤️❤️💯🤟

  • @mariocestra1156
    @mariocestra1156 7 місяців тому +6

    Wonderful, fairytale but also sad and very tragic life that she endured.

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому +1

      Both indeed!

  • @theminutemen1275
    @theminutemen1275 7 місяців тому +3

    Thanks Nick!

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому +1

      Interesting right?

  • @pattymiller9040
    @pattymiller9040 6 місяців тому +4

    Anything Marilyn/Norma Jean is interesting!!

  • @ericchimney1399
    @ericchimney1399 7 місяців тому +6

    she was such a beauty...did not know that she did her part gor the war effort...so sad her future years.

  • @reypolice5231
    @reypolice5231 7 місяців тому +4

    Thank you for this video.
    Our history is very important: 1. As it helps us to form an understanding of our past and our collective identity as Americans.
    2. History properly taught is also a window into the past that shows the mistakes made:
    A. So that we don't make them again,
    B. What Sacrifice were made by our forfather to keep us a free People,
    C. What worked and why it worked so we can benefit from that knowledge.
    Learn history or be doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past amen.

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому +1

      Thank you!

  • @nugget9245
    @nugget9245 7 місяців тому +4

    Bless his heart. So many unknown. My great grandfather was Colonel Eaton who led Sherman's Raid to the Sea in the Civil War. I have letters and pictures of him too. He was very well liked. He died in the war. What amazing stories.❤

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому

      Wow so cool!

    • @egrogan6482
      @egrogan6482 6 місяців тому +1

      Sorry to tell you this but - I doubt he was very well liked in the South, as Sherman's Raid burned down everything in their path and absolutely destroyed Charleston and a lot more, including farms owned by people who never had slaves.

    • @nugget9245
      @nugget9245 6 місяців тому

      @egrogan6482 Dear Karen. I told you I have letters from him and from others. property records, and much more information, including a picture of him. I know exactly WHAT HE DID. You on the media are so know it all when you read it in a book somewhere. He died in the Civil War, trying to stop slavery and preserve our nation. STFU.

  • @sparky6086
    @sparky6086 7 місяців тому +3

    The people whom Norma Jean was staying with, recommended that she marry their neighbor's son, James Dougherty. It wasn't her idea, or at least not entirely her idea.

  • @deplorable_2024
    @deplorable_2024 7 місяців тому +2

    Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, what were you thinking!

  • @dy9278
    @dy9278 6 місяців тому +2

    The one, the only. Not unknown to fans

  • @jglakecity
    @jglakecity 7 місяців тому +4

    This has nothing to do with Marilyn but could you do an episode on Operation Paperclip. It was where US Gov brought Nazi Scientists to US after war.

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому +1

      Will look into it!

    • @dalepointer9414
      @dalepointer9414 7 місяців тому

      Operation Paperclip brought several SS officers to work on defense and for NASA, creating rockets to the moon. Werner Von Braun being the head brain. Over 20,000 slave laborers died building V2 rockets and more. He was TOTALLY aware and was Hitler's super brain. Off course he claimed differently.
      Also look at the so-called Father of NASA medicine. Another Nazi doctor.

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому

      Interesting

  • @svbarr
    @svbarr 6 місяців тому +1

    MM was caught at the age of 13-15 was busted along with an older Sailor for reputed "oral" activities at a Church on Ocean Park Blvd on the border between West LA and Santa Monica. That building still exists and is the Parish Hall for the larger newer Catholic Church across the street. The "deed" took place in a garden near the kitchen area - basically the back yard.

  • @167curly
    @167curly 7 місяців тому +4

    I understand that when Norma Jean became "Hollywoodized" she was called Marilyn after Marilyn Miller, a starlet of the 1930s. Also I have a book about the Douglas Aircraft company, and there is a photo in the book of four attractive women posing in thr new DC6 airliner in 1946. One of them was Marilyn from her modelling days.

  • @tmaryso43williams10
    @tmaryso43williams10 7 місяців тому +1

    Thank You!

  • @butchhubbard6124
    @butchhubbard6124 7 місяців тому +3

    👍👍👍👍👍

  • @jeromedavid7944
    @jeromedavid7944 4 місяці тому

    "And it seems to me
    She lived her life
    Like a candle in the wind.
    Never knowing who to cling to
    When the rains set in.
    And I wouldve liked to know her,
    But I was just a kid.
    The candle burned out long before
    The legend ever did...."

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  4 місяці тому

      💔💔💔💔😢

  • @MarySchuster-ig2ze
    @MarySchuster-ig2ze 7 місяців тому +2

    But she wasn’t the original Rosie the Riveter, correct?

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому +1

      Nope. We did a video on the original..

    • @suenevin57
      @suenevin57 6 місяців тому

      Correct.

  • @paulzammataro7185
    @paulzammataro7185 7 місяців тому +2

    Dougherty was a FOOL!

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому

      Haha indeed!

  • @patrickmileham1364
    @patrickmileham1364 7 місяців тому +2

    Marilyn discovered Marìlyn

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому +1

      Good point

  • @paulprovenzano3755
    @paulprovenzano3755 7 місяців тому +2

    ❤Norma Jeane Mortenson❤

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому +2

      ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

  • @SoundmanStevie
    @SoundmanStevie 7 місяців тому

    Great job of narration great job at research I learn more about Maryland's life than I ever knew you did an excellent job in this video and letting us know what Maryland went through in her life it's sad that she passed away in the way that she did but now her life makes more sense to me why she was so much like a butterfly man to man I mean she had the President Kennedy and his brother and that led to her death but then karma got him and his brother it goes to show you can abuse humans because there is a higher authority that watches out for us and karma gets them but thank you very much for this information and you did a great job again thank you

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому +1

      Thank you!!!!!

  • @bellanina1271
    @bellanina1271 6 місяців тому +1

    Yes this is well known

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  6 місяців тому

      👊👊👊

  • @dalepointer9414
    @dalepointer9414 7 місяців тому +3

    BEAUTY QUEEN
    IMAGE AND BEAUTY
    ON THE SILVER SCREEN
    MIRRORS AND STYLE
    AND A BEAUTY QUEEN
    YEARS OF LONELINESS
    HOPES AND DREAMS
    TIGHT DRESSES
    AND BUSTING SEAMS
    AN ALABASTER PRINCESS
    AN ALABASTER GIRL
    AN ALABASTER LOVER
    IN AN ALABASTER WORLD
    A PLAYBOY PINUP
    HOLLYWOOD GAME
    LEGS AND FLOWING HAIR
    SADNESS FRAME BY FRAME
    MARILYN OH MARILYN
    CELLULOID LIFE
    THE DESIRE FOR CHILDREN
    A FAMILY AND WIFE

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for sharing

  • @MissHeird
    @MissHeird 7 місяців тому +1

    How was the DNA obtained from Gifford and Marilyn to conduct DNA testing??
    I never could see the big deal with Mae West and neither did my mother. A bombshell, not IMHO. MM ran circles around MW.

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому +1

      Agree on MM v Mae. There was only one true bombshell!

    • @MissHeird
      @MissHeird 7 місяців тому +1

      @@ThisDate BTW, I googled and discovered that a DNA test performed with a swab done on Gifford's granddaughter and a strand of Marilyn's hair.

  • @amyclark4095
    @amyclark4095 6 місяців тому

    What happened to Marilyn moneoe

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  6 місяців тому

      Did you watch the video?

  • @KenSiefert
    @KenSiefert 6 місяців тому +1

    I think Marilyn’s parents and Marilyn herself were the first to “discover” Marilyn Monroe. Hubris much?

    • @noneya61
      @noneya61 6 місяців тому +1

      Are you seriously that lost?

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  6 місяців тому

      Wow lame!

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  6 місяців тому

      My thoughts exactly!

    • @KenSiefert
      @KenSiefert 6 місяців тому

      @@ThisDate
      discover yourself, tossers who take credit for others talent. Lame…

    • @KenSiefert
      @KenSiefert 6 місяців тому

      @@noneya61
      Hey I’ve discovered you…give me all the credit 😵‍💫…get a life

  • @robertvincent5859
    @robertvincent5859 2 місяці тому

    Sadly Marilyn was the most exploited person in hollywood😢

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  2 місяці тому

      Sadly true💔

  • @LocomotiveThought
    @LocomotiveThought 7 місяців тому

    Bus Stop

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому

      Great movie!

  • @rickjohnson6559
    @rickjohnson6559 7 місяців тому +2

    Nice info but you should show her not you. Just saying. People want to see her. I don't want to be or sound hateful just making my thoughts out loud.

    • @ThisDate
      @ThisDate  7 місяців тому +1

      No worries, I welcome the feedback. Plenty of pics of her. I'd prefer her over me, too, but alas it's my video! People seem to be enjoying it. BTW, check out my video on Jimmy Stewart: ua-cam.com/video/FVZ4n42hh-g/v-deo.html

    • @angelapyle7301
      @angelapyle7301 6 місяців тому +1

      Awwww, damn it I was hoping 2 see her throughout the video