How to do the GUTTER RUN | Assetto Corsa Touge
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In todays video I will be answering some of the most burning questions about the Gutter Run Technique. Where did the gutter run technique come from? What are it's origins? Is the Gutter Run actually faster? And how do you do the Gutter Run Technique in Assetto Corsa Touge. This is an Assetto Corsa touge tutorial.
The gutter technique is an elusive style of driving that was popularised
by Takumi Fujiwara in the Initial D anime. Since then, drivers both in
real life and in simulators have tried to replicate Takumi's speciality. In this
video, I will be telling you all you need to know about the Gutter Technique,
and if it's actually faster, or just anime make believe. And, make sure
you keep watching until the end if you want to learn exactly how to perfect
the gutter run.
So, what is the gutter technique?
The gutter technique is an entry oriented method that doesn't let the driver
understeer at the entrance of the corner. The inner tyres are dropped into
the gutter to withstand the centrifugal force of the turn. Essentially,
it allows the car to turn beyond the grip of its tyres.
The origins of this technique actually predate Initial D by some 68 years. A
driver by the name of Rudolf Caracciola pioneered this technique, and you
may be surprised by where and how he did it.
The first instance of a variant of the gutter technique was first seen in the
1930s, at the infamous karussell Corner on the nordschleife, which
you may have heard of. And in fact, Rudolf made the corner what it is today.
Caracciola reportedly made the corner his own by hooking the inside tires into a drainage ditch to help his car "hug" the curve. As more concrete was
uncovered and more competitors copied him, the trend took hold. At a later
reconstruction, the corner was remade with real concrete banking, as it
remains to this day. This is the very first instance of a gutter technique
seen in motorsport.
So, just how did it seep through to Japanese car culture? Well, honestly,
there are no definitive links that I could find. But, what we do know is that
touge and drifting as an amalgamation of classic rally and touring car racing. Therefore, we can assume that the gutter technique was heavily inspired and used after some pioneering Japanese touge drivers in the 90s had watched or heard about this technique.
So there are actually two forms of this technique.
The first gutter run is when you enter the corner with your wheels in teh gutter. This variant of the technique slingshots you around the corner, and you will pop out of the gutter early, before the exit due to the centripetal force. Overall, you will be slower through the corner and on the exit, however, the entry speed is very high. This technique was used by Takumi against keisuke whne he passed him in his first race on Akina.
The second form of the gutter run is when you enter the corner a little faster
than usual, and overshoot the apex. Of course, this would usually mean
you are slower throughout the corner. However, you hook into the gutter
in the latter half of the corner and you can step on the throttle sooner,
resulting in a much higher exit speed. This technique was used to
catch up ryosuke during their race on akina.
The first gutter run is best used to pass an opponent who is directly
in front of you. It allows you to enter a corner at a higher speed than your opponent, giving you an overtaking advantage.
The second gutter run technique is overall faster, and is better if you're trying to catch up to an opponent or set a fast time. However, this technique requires a lot more room to mmanoeuvreas you are actually using the most optimal line through a corner and late apexing. Additionally, the second technique is better for normally aspirated engines, as it is difficult to immediately gain power out of a corner such as turboed engines do.
0:00 Intro
0:40 Origins of the Gutter Run
1:50 How to Gutter Run
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Rally technique unless the co driver says “don’t cut”. Most the cuts are lower height on the inside, they get deeper with every passing car.
awesome vid, it would be cool if you covered inner wheel lift some day hurhuhrur
The man, the myth, the legend
That’s just a result of hard cornering while keeping hard power on. Underpowered vehicle with light flexible bodies do this check out old school BTCC races or Spec Miata racing it is very common, and is just a result of hard cornering with a low power car because you are on the throttle for most of the corner setting the weight to the opposite tyre of the front inside tyre so it would all be on the outside rear. FWD cars lift the inside rear tyre. In karting you can get the inside rear tyre almost 4 inches off the ground in some corners(this is because it’s a solid axle and lifting the rear inside tyre acts like you differential you would have on a car meaning you don’t scrub the inside tyre. But this only relates to go karts and cars with solid rear axles that are RWD)
Essentially it’s just a result of being a fast driver same with the “slip angle utilization runs” they are techniques. Just a result of being a good driver and being fast.
Gutter riding is a legit thing and pretty badass because you can significantly exceed the tyre grip levels but also need to be aware of how to control the exit, you will be going to fast fit the tyres or if you aren’t it’s not much use in using it in the first place. It’s like like a train with tyres on rails you can basically go as fast as you want but soon as you come off you are limited by what the tyres grip is, it will also shock the tyres when you exit unless you are very smooth which will reduce grip.
@@thebigboy-fr9bg it’s not that simple at all. It’s different for each car. And it’s not just about accelerating in fact it can have nothing to do with acceleration. It can be simply under hard cornering but is easier to accomplish under acceleration. On top of that if you have a stiff car don’t attempt it you need a car with soft suspension.
I think the second gutter run is called the exit gutter run used by bunta and takumi. For Takumi, he uses to catch up Ryosuke.
alternate title: how to flip a car like a miata
Finally, a very clear visualisation of the difference between the two gutter techniques.
I've used it in my old 06 ford taurus. Dug it into a dirt gutter with a solid 1in drop off the side of the tarmac. 60kmh through that corner over the tire's normal limit of about 45kmh.
Yes both methods
(These were cheap ass tires so I didn't care if I ruined them, drove that car like a rally car)
And suspension in general, especially bearings.
Great video as always!
Cheers!
This technique works on a few games I play IV done it successfully on wreckfest, grand turismo sport, the crew 2, and need for speed heat.
Really great video, clear explanations and good visuals
Are you running the natural mod post processing filter in game?
Thanks! Yeah, I am
More of these! Love your channel
Thanks! Plenty more touge videos coming soon
Well made video! You deserve more Subs :)
Thank you!
Its like listening to bunta explaining stuff, but without mistery lol
Well it depends heavily on the type of corner you are guttering aswell, some of them arent really efficient because you can suffer from snap oversteering while exiting a corner on really sharp hairpins for example
Damn pretty good, time to try to aply this to gta lol
TIme to apply this to My summer car
Time to apply this to my car, see you guys in a bit!
It's used most commonly in Rally Spain where it's tarmac rally :)
The road i took to highschool and back was a mountain road and i used to do this quite a bit just for fun but i did it so much i now do it every time i go through that road sadly i have a stock 92 sentra and not an ae86
Your channel is underrated
Thank you!
Do a video on inner wheel lift since its a ”short cut”
Can you do another gutter run video like this because u have all the mods and it would look cooler
Hi thanks for teaching me this
I follow your channel. They are very well made and explained. Keep up with the good work! PS: i really love your videos BGM, are all from the same artist? Who is it? Thanks
Time to commit pro overtake :)
I like how you put mount haruna as the location
Wow you really are underrated
the explanation is very good, but theres Akina Version, that is accurate to the anime in the touge union server, it has alot of gutters, and also bigger
I've used this on horizon 2 , but in a diferent way. I put half car on the dirt, so that half will be in " rally mode" and I can make out of the corner with throttle cornering
I also do that in Motorsport 7 from time to time, mostly just for overtakes
what map are you using for this video? im using mount akina 2017 but when i tried doing this it just glitches and launch the car into oblivion
very good
Now we just need to learn how to do a uncovered gutter corner
Shortcut directly or lift the wheel even tho he already did it
man, im so excited for when i maybe get assetto corsa to binge all your tutorials again
You should redo this video with the new akina map with gutters
What's your best time on mount akina
My best with gutter run is 5;29
Honestly I've never tried to set good times on Akina. I much prefer other touges but just used it for this vid because the gutters are good on it. Maybe I'll have to make a video trying to set a fast time on it!
mine without gutter is 5.15 (no tire blankets) on the ae86
@@TSRB made one yet
Yo, you should use the Initial D arcade, Akina, for gutters. In my opinion, the gutters are better there.
They're tricky to use but they rae better once you know how to use them.
I'll check it out. Although, I do prefer the realism Assetto offers. Where can you get the game?
@@TSRB Hey man, its a map for Assetto Corsa
@@TSRB It's converted from a Initial D arcade game
@@TSRB Its in the Touge Union server if your in it
it is fine on this road but what if Tarragona in Spain? Goddamn, I could not even imagine if a rally driver did a gutter run in Tarragona because it is so deep and will hug the car so badly until you did not realized there is a rock in front of you
Cool, however the map you are using rendered gutters almost useless as I can barely get a grip of it. But I love your presentation. Keep it up!
Now make a exit oriented gutter run.
1:41 😳
what track is this?
hey i know im late but whats that map
It would be hard for a Turbo Charged engine thanks to Turbo lag, but what about a Super Charged engine where the boost is instantaneous????
I imagine you'd just have to be carefull to not cause a slide, since when entering the gutter using technique 2 you're probably already using slip angle to get in the gutter as fast as possible
It would be fine cause its not unstable
What map is this?
Are you using the stock Japanese pack 86?
Yeah!
@@TSRB damm, may I suggest the takumi tune version? It’s the exact same 86 but with 12k rpm to play around with. It’s very fast and it’s easier to do slip angle and touge with
@@koga8100 I'll check it out, thanks!
it's like wall riding but it's in the inside
entry and exit
hmm intresting
Hi, pls map link
Don't drive a Miata when you do this.
“if an 86 can do it so can my car!” *flips car over*
This is a requirement for setting fast lap times in Forza Horizon 5's Mexico Circuit.
Time to do this in real life.
*flips car and lands in a tree*
Don't try in a miata...
@@jordanrobshaw1406 GO BEAT CRAZY
@@bornokification IF AN 86 CAN DO IT... SO CAN THIS CAR
takumi tutorial lol
epic
Try playing Midnight Racing Tokyo Mount Otsuki in roblox in any cars, you will be surprised.
Actually looks pretty decent for roblox
@@TSRB ya but they kind of nerfed the game and its dead
@@TSRB Yis
Bad tunes
Once again another techique popularised by the japanese so much so that the general public asume it originated from them
i wonder if most of your racing techniques you teach can also work on Forza Horizon 5... hmmmm....
Gutter skip iroha jump pls
Step 1:
Buy and configure a rally suspension, springs, and dampeners.
Or they just thought about it by themselves lol
"There's 2" well actually no, in initial d theres like 10billion lol
Too bad you can’t play the Touge in Assetto Corsa Ultimate Edition.
Ultimate edition should be just as moddable as the regular game right? Have you installed Content Manager? A quick google search will show you a bunch of videos explaining how to mod in tracks and cars
@@inderet4118 Only problem is how do you mod it on the PS4?
@@kyototomokui6676 unfortunately consoles don't support AC modding, that's PC only so far
@@anubhavbhattacharya6216 Well then, that sucks.
@@kyototomokui6676 yeah it's unfortunate, though if you can I'd 100% recommend switching to PC, did so myself a little over 6 months ago, it does make a huge difference for assetto corsa.