By the way your installing these parts on this video is shows that Subaru tried they’re best to make this car a a easy to work on. Props to Subaru for this.
Yep this and the RZ34 are super easy to work on and upgrade with lots of great proven aftermarket companies providing parts (not ebay parts). Folks get too wrapped around the axle about stock reviews, a few upgrades and a weekend in the garage turn these cars into beasts! If the OEMs were to make cars like these they would cost way too much and they would be too "harsh" for most folks.
@@Smeedia Seems like they are getting back to their rally roots where the car was designed to be taken apart on four stands and a tarp in the middle of a forest or desert somewhere!
We not mad at Cobb we mad at the EPA, they should be focusing on corporate pollution not the little guys, car guys make up prbly less than 1% emissions they should get off our back
Agree. Cars are just an easy thing for them to blame so people don’t pay as much attention to corporations destroying the environment. Modern cars cause such little pollution compared to what corporations do.
I tried telling so many people about this new w r x they laugh at me until they cannot catch me... i love mine ..love what you did to yours... bc of you i got a wrx and love it.
I enjoy my warranty for now. So I'm waiting, watching and learning with what everyone does with they're VB's. Great videos that I'm definitely gonna watch to install this stuff!!
Dealerships cannot void warranties based on aftermarket parts. Unless said aftermarket parts caused damage to the car. It’s been through the court system
Absolutely love my almost stock VB WRX… just did 140 miles on slimy NE back roads (it’s that time of year) on some Yokie 3 seasons and the old girl absolutely ripped… but seeing your “not pulls” was eye watering… what an improvement over stock tune!! Love the videos! Keep up the good work!
I just pray he was using the Cobb OTS tune only to get him to a shop with a dyne and pro tune(thats the SOLE purpose for OTS tunes, dont let anyone tell you otherwise). leaving the car on the OTS is a BAAAAD idea. its a time bomb.
@@drywater3559 ive been running an OTS tune for 4 years almost. 0 issues. It's all in paying attention to parameters. Now I wouldn't recommend what I've done. That and parts matching is important.
Appreciate the straight-forward facts about tuning and warranty, as well as Cobb's choice to comply with EPA standards to stay in business. I installed a Big SF intake and accessport 2 months into ownership of a new '21 limited. Catalytic converter took a dump at about 6k, and was denied warranty coverage due to the altered ECU code. I'm glad you confirmed reflashing to factory before bringing it to the dealer wouldn't have made any difference. Now the vin has been flagged by Subaru, so I doubt any dealer would be reimbursed by SOA if they submit a claim. I brought the car to Stage 2+ (all Cobb, + Nameless bpv) this summer, and it ran really well on the Cobb Stage 2+ map until I could get it in for dyno tune. The power/torque gains are impressive, but was so unimpressed with the factory headers that I went and ordered/installed a Grimmspeed equal length headers, and found the remnants of burned out cat fragments in the mid-pipe. Ordering a new cat in a few weeks, and then re-tune for that and the headers, which I'm told isn't necessary, but figure why not? Headers are what I'd be looking at next on your build path, maybe ETS, but not seeing a ton of options for the FA24 currently. The power/torque gains for my FA20 are almost as significant as the move to Stage 2, and doing both at the same time plus turbo blanket while it's all apart, probably not a bad idea depending on budget. I guess I understand Subaru's position on modding, but as you mention, anyone who drives a stock VA or VB, and then tries one at Stage 2 is going to see way more of the car's potential unlocked, and for me it's been worth the gamble on voiding the warranty (even with having to eat a $1700 replacement cat).
Finally able to catch up on the tubes. Very solid install video! And you are so right on the EPA front. They started with diesel emissions defeat devices, and took those wins to go for the modding community at large. PFI Speed is still fighting their $180k fine for selling Hondata flashed ECUs.
I live in Phoenix. Even when it’s 115 degrees I don’t notice power loss in my 2023 WRX. It’s just fine in stock form. Once the warranty expires I’ll add another fifty HP. That’s it.
@@larrybaker404 You can't even compare the vehicles... That's your reasoning you don't see it, you just don't realize how much further the wrx engine/platform can be modified. Your mazda3 can barely hold a tune that produces a fart of power.
Thank you so much for this vid! Just used it in conjunction with the Cobb instructions. Cobb has neglected to share instructions for charge pipe install. So I used this video to fill in the blanks.
On my 22 just an Etune from drunkmann and intake and exhaust made the car feel wayyy different! Best of luck with it bro! I daily mine and nothing but smiles over the past year I’ve had it!
New garage lights working good. Videos bright and clear. Pretty sure I just watched your beard grow a 1/4” in 26 minutes. And you might have a modifying problem. ✌️
My wrx is mostly cobb, not bad for a fun drivers car build. Tho I did sell the top mount intercooler (cobbs) for the ETS front mount. Awesome quality stuff Tanner👍🏼!
Id like to mention PID numbers are not what is changed when ecm tuning the CID number is what is changed, PIDs are things like coolant temp, map pressure readings etc
That's a pretty slick way to connect the charge pipe together. Next best thing to a wiggins style clamp Also some manufacturers, like the Focus ST have counter for the number of times the car has been cranked, and they can use that to identify whether it's been flashed or not because it will reset that counter.
I'm driving my first STI. I've had three wrx's before. One being a FA20 and I hated that one. Even sinking almost 8k into it. The new wrx is growing on me everyday. I keep watching youtube videos about the new platform and the crazy numbers they are putting out with basic mods. I keep watching yours to learn. Might have to bite the bullet and get one.
Tbh you cannot go wrong with an STI but for the same power this FA24 is significantly cheaper. If you wanted to do a big power build (north of 550WHP) I'd say pick the STI all day but for sub 550whp the fa24 is pretty good
All other parts on wrx are sub par compared to Sti like diffs, transmission etc. Its not just about acceleration. Honestly this channel is run by teenagers.
It’s a huge difference because Subaru severely detuned the fa24 to meet EPA standards, The car should have had 300-310 stock with the displacement increase from the 2 liter engine
AWESOME! and just this week the haters were ripping on Cobbs dyno numbers as "inflated" because the FA24 is full of fail 😆I think Smeedia has had enough Subarus to make an educated evaluation.
I agree with you Tanner, I wasn't really a believer at first but this car has been growing on me watching your videos and others. You perfected the OEM+ look, wheels look good. Once you get the paint matched wheel arches (whatever they're called) thing will be minty. Stock rear end is super ugly but yours is super clean without doing too much
I have been thinking of my next vehicle. Been leasing F150s for about 5 years now and current one ends next year. I realized I finally had a the income to get myself a car I have always wanted. WRX might be my next car, and your video really makes it feel like a decent decision.
Baby blu looking mean congrats man..Also thanks for the old ss brake line install vid you did on the brz. I watched this am and then sucessfully upgraded my lines on my wrx today with no issues ! Huge upgrade thanks for your help man trulyappreciate you
🎉 thanks for all the updates. I’m definitely going to mod it when the warranty is up ( also it gives time to get an emergency slush fund for accidental blow up lol )
2023 with cobb stage 2 and the dealership at 1,850 replaced everything with warranty. Cobb isn't pushing the car to die.. It's much faster with the AC Port and tune but it's well in safe parameters
I can't wait for the proper tuning on this thing :) I was very surprised even in stock form how much smoother the engine was, and how refined compared to the STI and VA WRX.
Only put 200 miles on my vb and love it. Engine is very fun untuned, can't wait for a few thousand miles before going stage 1 and following this channel
I think the reason were seeing such good numbers, is because this engine was built "upgraded" with an STI version in mind...before they killed it off. Realistically, the Cobb Stage 2 with an aftermarket exhaust, is putting down the numbers on an OTS tune, that the STI probably would have been putting down stock from the factory. I think the only thing that would be different, is the upgraded STI Drivetrain. Only the Engineers in Japan that worked on it, really know the answer though.
@@kpcasey it's called using the theory of reasoning and deduction. Look at what Subaru has done in the past, and what they had said was intended for the STI...before they killed it.
@@ericrichards8939 You can keep thinking what you want, that's your prerogative, but leave some room for some facts to consider... Parts lists, parts diagrams, and opening them up to see, all confirm there is nothing special about the engines.
Bought a 19 WRX premium in April with 23k miles on it - I know the dealership isn't specialized in Subi's and can't really tell, but I did buy a warranty from them. Is there any way I can go about finding out the ID to see if it was tuned in the past at all? I know when I bought it I noticed cosmetics taken off but the engine bay looks stock. Just curious
I was corresponding with a well know tuner a month or so ago about some moderate mods for my 2021. Also mentioned I was thinking about trading up to a 2023 and just doing basic OTS tune instead. He told me that the 2023 was the way to go as with even a basic tune it would make more power than my 2021 with extensive bolt ons.
This was the first video YT suggested to me of yours. Watched the install and as soon as you took it out driving, I was like, "Damn, that looks awfully like Washington." Scene cut, I notice it's Canyon you're flying up 🤣😂 Awesome, dude! I'm sure I'll see ya around the area! Would love to pick your brain about my car. Grown bored of my car after 5 years and was thinking about Cobb stages, which is why I'm assuming YT recommended me your channel. Keep up the content, really enjoyed it!
How does a stock exhaust affect the performance of this stage 2 kit? In other words, will similar performance gains be seen if I keep a stock exhaust? Thanks
I’ve worked for the same company for 22 years and we build ambulances. There was a incident a few years back where a glue booth wasn’t properly ventilated to a ridiculously obvious degree. The fine was over $75000.
Only 1500 miles on my VB so I'll be waiting to do this upgrade. But, boy howdy does this look like all I was hoping it would be. Making the VB into a fun daily driver. The piping for the air box was the part that had me the most worried. I got meaty hands so they don't like small places. But it doesn't look like it was all that bad.
I hadn't watched this yet but just did. Thank you very much for your clear knowledgeable explanation of how an accessport uninstall doesn't get rid of any sign of the device should have warranty claim be made. I've only got 1000 Miles on my 2023 and it's my daily driver. I think I will wait for the warranty to expire prior to buying an access port since I don't plan on doing anyting more than stage one. Thanks again, really enjoying your videos
This car is detuned from the factory quit a bit just like the Golf R so it makes sense. I noticed a huge difference just from adding the AP and nothing else yet.
They left it detuned from factory so it would last past the warranty period , that and emissions. Same story with my explorer St a simple tune takes it from 400 crank hp to 550crank with no other mods.
Question. I'm new to Subaru and modding them. I have an 08 Forester. Is it worth it maybe supercharging it down the road? Or leave it alone? What simple upgrades can I do ? I love in a very hot climate.
If it came N/A there’s not really too much you can do. They can be supercharged with light boost but I would advise against it as the stock internals do not handle boost well 🙏
Eventually trading in my tuned passat, I know laugh at me. Looking to get a 23 wrx limited and do this exact build up. Thanks for the vid and throwing you a follow!
@@SmeediaI'll tell you this man, it can take a 20mph hit from a Lexus IS-F and still look just fine afterwards 😂 Guess that's one positive side to the bumper.
I have a e tune, and 326whp with just ETS intake and exhaust. Shops said the stock intercooler is pretty legit. I am not thinking its worth the $900 to replace, for minimal, minimal, gains.
I mean I wouldn’t call it minimal a new intercooler and retune should put you at 350-360whp without even a really aggressive tune. The intercooler on my Sti was pretty large stock but when I changed my turbo inlet , top mount and retuned it made an additional 36 whp at the same boost psi.
Great video dude, making these cars even more appealing than they already were for me. The biggest concern for me was I always heard Subarus were a pain to work on compared to my 92 Accord so seeing this is helpful. Deciding between this and a 2022 Civic Si for my next car so I can do a new motor on the Accord
People love to shit on Cobb and the OTS tunes, but I think when done right (e.g. when paired with the rest of the Cobb kit, stages, whatever you want to call them), these tunes are reliable, and Cobb has obviously optimized their tune to their parts. If you're mixing parts from Perrin, ETS, Cobb, etc. then you probably want to have a custom tune done, but I think for $2k, you can't really do a whole lot better than this. Love what you're doing with the build, man. Let us know how it goes with long-term reliability on the kit.
I’m planning on getting a 2023 wrx in Nov once I get my quarterly bonus, but watching your videos I want to just go to my dealership now and pick one up. 😂 Great content as always!
Thank you so much for the video! This upgrade is very tempting! The engine is definitely very under stressed, my wife’s Ascent has more torque. Do you think the transmission is going to handle well the extra torque? When you were pulling, the engine seemed more smooth than stock. Does it really feel like that, or you just shift super smoothly?
I know most of the chatter is about stage 2, but l’ll vouch for the stage 1 as well (AP tune + Cobb filter). I’ve been running my ‘23 for about a week and the difference is night and day. It’s a completely different car. I can’t imagine what the stage 2 is like.
Great video and content. Enjoyed it. And yes, I did my homework gave it a thumbs up and hit the subscribe. If this kit was warranty safe would buy it tomorrow. For now, it's on the to do list in 7 years or 70,000 when my warranty runs out LOL. Massive props to Cobb for developing the best out of the box kit/tune for the VB. They will get my business for sure.
I daily a 19 sti and my buddy has a new wrx and I must say looks wise it’s grown the only thing I don’t like is how the clutch feels but I know that can be changed
Lovely jubbly! Unfortunately we're very restricted here in Japan. COBB have no plans on making their AP work on JDM models. The JB4 will work but it can't remove the 112mph speed restrictor in the ECU. Which is all moot for me anyway as my car is the CVT model (the top-trim model here comes only in that version), so WHP/torque can't really go higher than 300 and even with that I'd be a bit nervous. Having said all that, more power here (given the types of road we have in abundance, cornering paradise) would be superfluous. I've optioned all the handling goodies and have a set of Rays on order too, I think it's all going to be a lot more fun than the Honda CRV I currently have. Maybe even as much fun as my KTM SDR Evo. :D
I've always wondered why they have not done anything for Japan in thr past. I know they cam be a bit strict over there but is it that restricted? Sounds like it should still be a fun set up! Ya'll get a ton of the OEM options I wish we got here!
@@Smeedia I did say to them that they're missing out on a big market but hey ho. It's not like stuff gets impounded at customs, I got my ETS Extreme from the US and a flasher for my KTM from the UK (which also allowed me to remove the speed restriction, muha!). So yeah, sh!t can be done, it's just a PITA.
If I got this package and not add anything else except for maybe an exhaust, will the OTS map that come with it be good enough for a long time? Or do I still need to go get a protune? I don’t plan on over-modifying my daily.thank u in advance. Been binged watching ur vids 😅
Subaru voided my warranty for rtv issue since I had a Cobb tune 😭…so I had to sell my car and get a grc 🥲…my last 2 cars were Rex’s…i had aos installed, fortune 500 coil overs, processwest intercooler, hawk brakes, Cobb intake and a protune from panda Motorworks…i felt really sad when I traded it…but I also feel happy that I got the grc.
Do you think the NA FA24 is worth it in the BRZ, or does the turbo really make a difference? Obviously the BRZ is built for handling, but does the new WRX feel like it has good balance in the corners with the extra HP? Love what you got going on right now Tanner!
It absolutely does if you go for chassis bracings (strut tower front and rear, and under chassis bracings, along with driveline mounts etc.) Those help the suspension work properly because the chassis becomes more rigid, and the car becomes much more planted and predictable, which helps make up for the extra weight.
By the way your installing these parts on this video is shows that Subaru tried they’re best to make this car a a easy to work on. Props to Subaru for this.
For real, this thing is stupid easy to work on compared to EJs.
Yep this and the RZ34 are super easy to work on and upgrade with lots of great proven aftermarket companies providing parts (not ebay parts). Folks get too wrapped around the axle about stock reviews, a few upgrades and a weekend in the garage turn these cars into beasts! If the OEMs were to make cars like these they would cost way too much and they would be too "harsh" for most folks.
@@Smeedia Seems like they are getting back to their rally roots where the car was designed to be taken apart on four stands and a tarp in the middle of a forest or desert somewhere!
their best
@@HansDelbruck53+1
We not mad at Cobb we mad at the EPA, they should be focusing on corporate pollution not the little guys, car guys make up prbly less than 1% emissions they should get off our back
100% IMO alot of what the EPA is doing is just cash grabs from businesses
@@Smeediagreedy bastards always coming after us guys with hobbies man 😭
Preach
Agree. Cars are just an easy thing for them to blame so people don’t pay as much attention to corporations destroying the environment. Modern cars cause such little pollution compared to what corporations do.
The jabs, the global warming.. all bullshit
I tried telling so many people about this new w r x they laugh at me until they cannot catch me... i love mine ..love what you did to yours... bc of you i got a wrx and love it.
I enjoy my warranty for now. So I'm waiting, watching and learning with what everyone does with they're VB's. Great videos that I'm definitely gonna watch to install this stuff!!
Ain't nothing wrong with that at all 🙌🥳
Hehe can’t wait to get one! What color did you get?
2023 WRX 6 speed blue 2 weeks ago. l am riding stock for a while, enough performance for every day driving right now
@@naldovaz9157 🔥🔥
Dealerships cannot void warranties based on aftermarket parts. Unless said aftermarket parts caused damage to the car. It’s been through the court system
Absolutely love my almost stock VB WRX… just did 140 miles on slimy NE back roads (it’s that time of year) on some Yokie 3 seasons and the old girl absolutely ripped… but seeing your “not pulls” was eye watering… what an improvement over stock tune!! Love the videos! Keep up the good work!
The amount of potential in the FA24 and the stock turbo combination is wild. People pulling crazy stuff out of it.
Subaru left so much on the table with these things 🙌
@@Smeedia Probably for emissions reasons and stock parts costs like the '90s JDM legends.
But for how long?
I just pray he was using the Cobb OTS tune only to get him to a shop with a dyne and pro tune(thats the SOLE purpose for OTS tunes, dont let anyone tell you otherwise). leaving the car on the OTS is a BAAAAD idea. its a time bomb.
@@drywater3559 ive been running an OTS tune for 4 years almost. 0 issues. It's all in paying attention to parameters. Now I wouldn't recommend what I've done. That and parts matching is important.
Please keep this VB WRX. Amazing. The FA 24 motor is awesome. I am still rocking with my 2020 STI. 😊
Appreciate the straight-forward facts about tuning and warranty, as well as Cobb's choice to comply with EPA standards to stay in business.
I installed a Big SF intake and accessport 2 months into ownership of a new '21 limited. Catalytic converter took a dump at about 6k, and was denied warranty coverage due to the altered ECU code. I'm glad you confirmed reflashing to factory before bringing it to the dealer wouldn't have made any difference. Now the vin has been flagged by Subaru, so I doubt any dealer would be reimbursed by SOA if they submit a claim.
I brought the car to Stage 2+ (all Cobb, + Nameless bpv) this summer, and it ran really well on the Cobb Stage 2+ map until I could get it in for dyno tune. The power/torque gains are impressive, but was so unimpressed with the factory headers that I went and ordered/installed a Grimmspeed equal length headers, and found the remnants of burned out cat fragments in the mid-pipe. Ordering a new cat in a few weeks, and then re-tune for that and the headers, which I'm told isn't necessary, but figure why not? Headers are what I'd be looking at next on your build path, maybe ETS, but not seeing a ton of options for the FA24 currently. The power/torque gains for my FA20 are almost as significant as the move to Stage 2, and doing both at the same time plus turbo blanket while it's all apart, probably not a bad idea depending on budget.
I guess I understand Subaru's position on modding, but as you mention, anyone who drives a stock VA or VB, and then tries one at Stage 2 is going to see way more of the car's potential unlocked, and for me it's been worth the gamble on voiding the warranty (even with having to eat a $1700 replacement cat).
That's a pretty slick way to connect the charge pipe together
Finally able to catch up on the tubes. Very solid install video! And you are so right on the EPA front. They started with diesel emissions defeat devices, and took those wins to go for the modding community at large. PFI Speed is still fighting their $180k fine for selling Hondata flashed ECUs.
I live in Phoenix. Even when it’s 115 degrees I don’t notice power loss in my 2023 WRX. It’s just fine in stock form. Once the warranty expires I’ll add another fifty HP. That’s it.
Smart
I can't take it anymore. I'm going to trade in my Mazda 3 for a WRX tomorrow morning. Thanks a lot! lol
I am here to help 😅😅😅
Did you get it ?
@@neo_jdm9169 yes. 23 WRX base in WR blue pearl. $31k out the door. I’m in heaven and I fully blame this channel lol
Why loose the 3? I lov mine
@@larrybaker404 You can't even compare the vehicles... That's your reasoning you don't see it, you just don't realize how much further the wrx engine/platform can be modified. Your mazda3 can barely hold a tune that produces a fart of power.
Thank you so much for this vid! Just used it in conjunction with the Cobb instructions. Cobb has neglected to share instructions for charge pipe install. So I used this video to fill in the blanks.
On my 22 just an Etune from drunkmann and intake and exhaust made the car feel wayyy different! Best of luck with it bro! I daily mine and nothing but smiles over the past year I’ve had it!
New garage lights working good. Videos bright and clear. Pretty sure I just watched your beard grow a 1/4” in 26 minutes. And you might have a modifying problem. ✌️
Some would say it's an addiction 😅 shops lights working wonders! Definitely a possibility on the beard 😅
you need to upgrade to the 8mm nut driver for the worm clamps. Screwdrivers are only good for stabbing things.
I used to use 5/16 nut drivers
@@J.Young808 a classic solution but it's hard to find standard worm clamps anymore
My wrx is mostly cobb, not bad for a fun drivers car build. Tho I did sell the top mount intercooler (cobbs) for the ETS front mount. Awesome quality stuff Tanner👍🏼!
Can't go wrong with a good front mount, alqays good for some lower IATs!
Id like to mention PID numbers are not what is changed when ecm tuning the CID number is what is changed, PIDs are things like coolant temp, map pressure readings etc
I think Subaru stepped up their game with this one just wish there was a sti
They definitely left alot on the table with this car. Makes me wonder what the STI version would have been
@@Smeedia right
I find it kinda funny how there's a "STi" grille option for the VB chassis
That's a pretty slick way to connect the charge pipe together. Next best thing to a wiggins style clamp
Also some manufacturers, like the Focus ST have counter for the number of times the car has been cranked, and they can use that to identify whether it's been flashed or not because it will reset that counter.
Right?! I dig that little quick connect latch 🙌
I'm driving my first STI. I've had three wrx's before. One being a FA20 and I hated that one. Even sinking almost 8k into it. The new wrx is growing on me everyday. I keep watching youtube videos about the new platform and the crazy numbers they are putting out with basic mods. I keep watching yours to learn. Might have to bite the bullet and get one.
Why did you hate the FA20?
Tbh you cannot go wrong with an STI but for the same power this FA24 is significantly cheaper. If you wanted to do a big power build (north of 550WHP) I'd say pick the STI all day but for sub 550whp the fa24 is pretty good
All other parts on wrx are sub par compared to Sti like diffs, transmission etc. Its not just about acceleration. Honestly this channel is run by teenagers.
you'll regret getting rid of the STi. the DCCD and stronger transmission are reasons alone to not go with the VB chassis.
plus open diffs suck on a AWD car, which is what the VBs have
It’s a huge difference because Subaru severely detuned the fa24 to meet EPA standards, The car should have had 300-310 stock with the displacement increase from the 2 liter engine
Big facts, they left needed the hell of out of this car from the factory
nah lets keep being boneheads and blame subaru for stuff they cant control
AWESOME! and just this week the haters were ripping on Cobbs dyno numbers as "inflated" because the FA24 is full of fail 😆I think Smeedia has had enough Subarus to make an educated evaluation.
I feel like they have a good amount of timing in their OTS Tunes because that shit feel spicey for an OTS Tune 😅
I agree with you Tanner, I wasn't really a believer at first but this car has been growing on me watching your videos and others. You perfected the OEM+ look, wheels look good. Once you get the paint matched wheel arches (whatever they're called) thing will be minty. Stock rear end is super ugly but yours is super clean without doing too much
Thank you 🙌 I'm still not 100% sold on the rear bumper yet but currently that is my only gripe with this thing
@@Smeedia keep rolling out the dope content!
With the intake, do you hear the turbo? I live in cali and we don’t have a carb legal cold air except Cobb and maybe one more company
Heck the video that I been waiting for
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I have been thinking of my next vehicle. Been leasing F150s for about 5 years now and current one ends next year. I realized I finally had a the income to get myself a car I have always wanted. WRX might be my next car, and your video really makes it feel like a decent decision.
Is the corgi required for this build?
Baby blu looking mean congrats man..Also thanks for the old ss brake line install vid you did on the brz. I watched this am and then sucessfully upgraded my lines on my wrx today with no issues ! Huge upgrade thanks for your help man trulyappreciate you
I did the full Cobb nextgen stage 2+ for my VAB this summer inspired by these vids and love how clean it looks after.
Make sure the shroud rubber touching the intercooler is facing outward when you close the hood
I need to hit it with a torch and form it a bit 😅
@@Smeedia might be a good idea to hit the shroud bolts with some blue loctite. Ask me why. 😅
@@xil3ntkha0s they fall out?! 😅
@@Smeedia one of mine did. It's got some loctite on it now lol
🎉 thanks for all the updates. I’m definitely going to mod it when the warranty is up ( also it gives time to get an emergency slush fund for accidental blow up lol )
2023 with cobb stage 2 and the dealership at 1,850 replaced everything with warranty. Cobb isn't pushing the car to die.. It's much faster with the AC Port and tune but it's well in safe parameters
I can't wait for the proper tuning on this thing :) I was very surprised even in stock form how much smoother the engine was, and how refined compared to the STI and VA WRX.
Curious to see what it'll do on an actual protune 🙌
Only put 200 miles on my vb and love it. Engine is very fun untuned, can't wait for a few thousand miles before going stage 1 and following this channel
@@mattsiegel1446 been two months, how you finding it?
Simply surprising that you don’t have more subscribers - keep up the very good work!
Hell yea love the content tanner keep it up man
Always appreciate the support 🫶🫶🫶
I think the reason were seeing such good numbers, is because this engine was built "upgraded" with an STI version in mind...before they killed it off. Realistically, the Cobb Stage 2 with an aftermarket exhaust, is putting down the numbers on an OTS tune, that the STI probably would have been putting down stock from the factory. I think the only thing that would be different, is the upgraded STI Drivetrain.
Only the Engineers in Japan that worked on it, really know the answer though.
I don't think there is any evidence for that. It's a regular series motor.
Where did you read/were told that?
@@kpcasey it's called using the theory of reasoning and deduction. Look at what Subaru has done in the past, and what they had said was intended for the STI...before they killed it.
@@ericrichards8939 You can keep thinking what you want, that's your prerogative, but leave some room for some facts to consider... Parts lists, parts diagrams, and opening them up to see, all confirm there is nothing special about the engines.
Love seeing the dogs just chilling with you while you're working
Excellent quality video Tanner. A lot of good information here. Much appreciated.
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There goes the warranty for 1/2 of the VBs in the US 😂😂😂. Fantastic video Tanner !!!
Lol 😂😂
Thanks Fernando 🙌🙌
Bought a 19 WRX premium in April with 23k miles on it - I know the dealership isn't specialized in Subi's and can't really tell, but I did buy a warranty from them. Is there any way I can go about finding out the ID to see if it was tuned in the past at all? I know when I bought it I noticed cosmetics taken off but the engine bay looks stock. Just curious
I was corresponding with a well know tuner a month or so ago about some moderate mods for my 2021. Also mentioned I was thinking about trading up to a 2023 and just doing basic OTS tune instead. He told me that the 2023 was the way to go as with even a basic tune it would make more power than my 2021 with extensive bolt ons.
These FA24s been pulling out some gooooood numbers 🔥
With a turboback and illegal for some states intake, e30 blend, this thing is a monster for a flat 4
I have mine running on Drunkmans e85 tune. It’s another level. Absolutely love my VB.
This was the first video YT suggested to me of yours. Watched the install and as soon as you took it out driving, I was like, "Damn, that looks awfully like Washington." Scene cut, I notice it's Canyon you're flying up 🤣😂
Awesome, dude! I'm sure I'll see ya around the area! Would love to pick your brain about my car. Grown bored of my car after 5 years and was thinking about Cobb stages, which is why I'm assuming YT recommended me your channel.
Keep up the content, really enjoyed it!
How does a stock exhaust affect the performance of this stage 2 kit? In other words, will similar performance gains be seen if I keep a stock exhaust? Thanks
thank you for mentioning magnuson moss. I have to deal with that all the time as a subaru technician.
People be trying to make up rules for it 😂😅
CongratS. You finally cracked it.
Great comment on the OTS tune. They're fine as LONG AS YOU USE EXACTLY WHAT IT TELLS YOU TO.
I’ve worked for the same company for 22 years and we build ambulances. There was a incident a few years back where a glue booth wasn’t properly ventilated to a ridiculously obvious degree. The fine was over $75000.
Currently watching the video and at the same time I can see the comment section blowing up
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You sold me on the stage 2 from Cobb for my white VB! Great video!
What type performance gains did you get from the stage II kit
Tanner can you go over your thoughts on the WRX GT? Mods, suspension? For those of us with injuries who cant drive manual anymore. Thanks in advance
Good stuff buddy the car is looking great.
Thank you 🥳 😊
Only 1500 miles on my VB so I'll be waiting to do this upgrade. But, boy howdy does this look like all I was hoping it would be. Making the VB into a fun daily driver. The piping for the air box was the part that had me the most worried. I got meaty hands so they don't like small places. But it doesn't look like it was all that bad.
im waiting for my warranty to be up before I do anything. never thought I would look forward to a warranty running out lol
wonder how this will effect the longevity of the stock clutch? does it seem sturdy enough? Mine is stock.
I hadn't watched this yet but just did. Thank you very much for your clear knowledgeable explanation of how an accessport uninstall doesn't get rid of any sign of the device should have warranty claim be made. I've only got 1000 Miles on my 2023 and it's my daily driver. I think I will wait for the warranty to expire prior to buying an access port since I don't plan on doing anyting more than stage one. Thanks again, really enjoying your videos
This car is detuned from the factory quit a bit just like the Golf R so it makes sense. I noticed a huge difference just from adding the AP and nothing else yet.
It's wild just how noticeable od a doffrence it makes. Subaru left so much on the table with this car
They left it detuned from factory so it would last past the warranty period , that and emissions. Same story with my explorer St a simple tune takes it from 400 crank hp to 550crank with no other mods.
Question. I'm new to Subaru and modding them. I have an 08 Forester. Is it worth it maybe supercharging it down the road? Or leave it alone? What simple upgrades can I do ? I love in a very hot climate.
If it came N/A there’s not really too much you can do. They can be supercharged with light boost but I would advise against it as the stock internals do not handle boost well 🙏
Oh heck yeah! Your car is mint! My accessport, ets intake + dman ots tune is coming next week. Stoke. Will be getting an etune as well.
Lemme know how you like the set up once you get it all in!
Great vid. I miss sunny days there 😢
The sunny days are super nice 👌
Eventually trading in my tuned passat, I know laugh at me. Looking to get a 23 wrx limited and do this exact build up. Thanks for the vid and throwing you a follow!
*_Another dope build by a OG brand. Seeing a full Cobb Subi build is like looking at a Spoon Civic 🥹_*
Motec did actually just recently release an ecu for the VB WRX
I thought I saw something on that 🔥
Never hated the car, just did not like the rear end but I knew the FA24 had big potential when I saw Bader’s numbers.
I'm still not sold on the rear bumper so your not alone 😅
@@SmeediaI'll tell you this man, it can take a 20mph hit from a Lexus IS-F and still look just fine afterwards 😂
Guess that's one positive side to the bumper.
I have a e tune, and 326whp with just ETS intake and exhaust. Shops said the stock intercooler is pretty legit. I am not thinking its worth the $900 to replace, for minimal, minimal, gains.
The factory intercooler is MASSIVE for a stock one, dosent surprise me 🔥
I mean I wouldn’t call it minimal a new intercooler and retune should put you at 350-360whp without even a really aggressive tune. The intercooler on my Sti was pretty large stock but when I changed my turbo inlet , top mount and retuned it made an additional 36 whp at the same boost psi.
Great video dude, making these cars even more appealing than they already were for me. The biggest concern for me was I always heard Subarus were a pain to work on compared to my 92 Accord so seeing this is helpful. Deciding between this and a 2022 Civic Si for my next car so I can do a new motor on the Accord
11:29 do you not have enough room to get a 5/16 nut driver or 5/16 socket instead of flat head?
Hey before you get GT recaros, i heard they're only plug and play with the limited. The premium and base wont work with the airbag.
Good to know I'll look at the FSM and see how the wiring is on em
People love to shit on Cobb and the OTS tunes, but I think when done right (e.g. when paired with the rest of the Cobb kit, stages, whatever you want to call them), these tunes are reliable, and Cobb has obviously optimized their tune to their parts. If you're mixing parts from Perrin, ETS, Cobb, etc. then you probably want to have a custom tune done, but I think for $2k, you can't really do a whole lot better than this. Love what you're doing with the build, man. Let us know how it goes with long-term reliability on the kit.
Could you install all the hardware, omit the access port and keep your warranty?
Our boy said it. He may break the internet🤯🤯🤯
I’m planning on getting a 2023 wrx in Nov once I get my quarterly bonus, but watching your videos I want to just go to my dealership now and pick one up. 😂 Great content as always!
Appreciate it 🥳 what trim spec are you looking at getting?!
This is amazing, I need to do this ! how much HP ?
Can’t find the corgi on the COBB website? Not impressed with false advertisement of this video saying we can “cut copy and paste”.
Careful running down Canyon like that, there's some crazy drivers on that road. Any local places to get good coilovers?
Not local that I know of, normally just order everything online 👌
Sick AF paint those flairs and rear bumper!!!
Flares show up next week 🙌
@@Smeedia 🥰
How much better is a kartboy shifter over a stock sti short throw
Night and day, kartboy is my go to for my own cars 🙌
That’s me weekend driver! 🤙
Yessssssir 🥳🥳
Thank you so much for the video! This upgrade is very tempting! The engine is definitely very under stressed, my wife’s Ascent has more torque.
Do you think the transmission is going to handle well the extra torque?
When you were pulling, the engine seemed more smooth than stock. Does it really feel like that, or you just shift super smoothly?
As an Alabamian, I’m glad we don’t have to deal with omissions here!
Great editing im so tempted to pick up the wrx soon!! How much whp do you think it gained? Thanks
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Eyyyy Joe always appreciate the support my man 🙌🙌🙌
@@Smeedia trying to start a trend here if you can’t tell. Get one or two of us doing it every video, eh eh
I know most of the chatter is about stage 2, but l’ll vouch for the stage 1 as well (AP tune + Cobb filter). I’ve been running my ‘23 for about a week and the difference is night and day. It’s a completely different car. I can’t imagine what the stage 2 is like.
Great video and content. Enjoyed it. And yes, I did my homework gave it a thumbs up and hit the subscribe. If this kit was warranty safe would buy it tomorrow. For now, it's on the to do list in 7 years or 70,000 when my warranty runs out LOL. Massive props to Cobb for developing the best out of the box kit/tune for the VB. They will get my business for sure.
All you need is a secondary ECU that you do your tunes on.
Wondering how the gas mileage is affected..
beats slappin throughout the video
I daily a 19 sti and my buddy has a new wrx and I must say looks wise it’s grown the only thing I don’t like is how the clutch feels but I know that can be changed
I don't have a factory sti clutch to use as reference so now I'm curious about the difference of feel between em 😅
@@Smeediamy other good friend has a evo x and said the same about the clutch
@@Smeediait’s lighter in the VB kinda like a feather vs my VA.
When’s the flares getting painted?
Next week 👌
I know i m late but what i have seen that it s still engine light on that s no way to rid of the engine light?
Thanks!
Lovely jubbly! Unfortunately we're very restricted here in Japan. COBB have no plans on making their AP work on JDM models. The JB4 will work but it can't remove the 112mph speed restrictor in the ECU. Which is all moot for me anyway as my car is the CVT model (the top-trim model here comes only in that version), so WHP/torque can't really go higher than 300 and even with that I'd be a bit nervous. Having said all that, more power here (given the types of road we have in abundance, cornering paradise) would be superfluous. I've optioned all the handling goodies and have a set of Rays on order too, I think it's all going to be a lot more fun than the Honda CRV I currently have. Maybe even as much fun as my KTM SDR Evo. :D
I've always wondered why they have not done anything for Japan in thr past. I know they cam be a bit strict over there but is it that restricted?
Sounds like it should still be a fun set up! Ya'll get a ton of the OEM options I wish we got here!
@@Smeedia I did say to them that they're missing out on a big market but hey ho. It's not like stuff gets impounded at customs, I got my ETS Extreme from the US and a flasher for my KTM from the UK (which also allowed me to remove the speed restriction, muha!). So yeah, sh!t can be done, it's just a PITA.
Panzerlang... I think ecutek does work on jdm ecu model...
But the cvt definately hates power and torque upgrades
Yes that happend to me I own a 2018 sti n all I had was an access port n an intake n my engine blew
Thank you for the best treadmill videos 👌
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Man, if I didn’t just buy a bike you’re really making me want a new wrx rn
Tbh, bike sounds more fun 😅
@@Smeedia bike doesn’t have a turbo tho
So if we made a hydrocarbon filter on a spring loaded flappy thing, we could have the best of both worlds?
Lmao I'd be interested to see this but technically yes 😅
@@Smeedia I'm tempted to get my hands on an air box to see what I can come up with... and then again I'm lazy
One way check on intake. Sucks but can't blow.😎
If I got this package and not add anything else except for maybe an exhaust, will the OTS map that come with it be good enough for a long time? Or do I still need to go get a protune? I don’t plan on over-modifying my daily.thank u in advance. Been binged watching ur vids 😅
Subaru voided my warranty for rtv issue since I had a Cobb tune 😭…so I had to sell my car and get a grc 🥲…my last 2 cars were Rex’s…i had aos installed, fortune 500 coil overs, processwest intercooler, hawk brakes, Cobb intake and a protune from panda Motorworks…i felt really sad when I traded it…but I also feel happy that I got the grc.
Love your videos! You make installations look so simple!
Do you think the NA FA24 is worth it in the BRZ, or does the turbo really make a difference? Obviously the BRZ is built for handling, but does the new WRX feel like it has good balance in the corners with the extra HP? Love what you got going on right now Tanner!
god stfu, did you really ask if a turbo makes a difference?!
It absolutely does if you go for chassis bracings (strut tower front and rear, and under chassis bracings, along with driveline mounts etc.) Those help the suspension work properly because the chassis becomes more rigid, and the car becomes much more planted and predictable, which helps make up for the extra weight.